Its pretty close though. It shows the GM and owners have no morals and thought they could sweep it under the rug and cover it up. Covering it up is just as bad. Stop it.
@sal4856 Is this what happens when the masses are appeased? The Browns fans wanted him. Double down in Deshaun defense after Joe Flacco embarrassed Watson with his mastery of the offense. Enjoy Deshaun Watson! Celebrate Him 🎉.
The Browns deserve this, to intentionally put a clause that pays Watson only 1 million dollars the first year of the contract so he didn't lose much money during his suspension is all I needed to see to fortify my stance that they completely deserve all of this.
They brought in Brady who initially struggled with the no risk it, no biscuit, until they scrapped it for an offense suitable to his strengths, then also got Gronk, Fournette, AB, improved that terrible line and that terrible secondary that Jameis had to work with. Keep it real, don't act like it was the same team or approach.
@@sirjer73 and he threw 33 tds and 5100 yards, and if you actually watched the games you would see a lot of those picks were tips on catchable balls and receivers running wrong routes in New offense. Everybody who played in that offense the first year had career high ints, and before that season his high was a rookie. And I'm not saying he won't throw one because he does, but the narrative is crazy , especially compared to TD's and yards.
Sexual assault = rape in Texas. However, I agree that saying sexual assault makes it seem like it is a lesser offense than rape. I wish the media would make it clearer what is alleged.
I don't think rape is a legal term. People are charged with assault, aggravated or child. I agree that it seems lesser, like he went for another massage. As you probably know, this one is different and initially, it was hard to find the details. Media seems to still protect him. They could say 'rape' and give details but they pretend they are too graphic (as if that ever held them back) or they don't have both sides of the story. If CLE delays dumping Watson to try to void the contract, while waiting for the NFL to weigh in, they'll look worse than ever. Sports talk doesn't want to talk about the case (except Mike Florio), because a lot are ex-players who support their own. This is a bad look for the NFL.
'Strategic leaking' is a good way to put it. I do think multiple people in the Brown's front office new about this allegation and had it under wraps, under their control in the event that they needed to jettison from the contract. 'Break glass in case of non-performance.' and just when they are through with him. The timing just feels that sinister.
It absolutely is sinister. And conveys the message 'you can do whatever as long as you play at a superstar level'. No way this is a coincidence,which is disgusting. I never wanted Watson. From the rip, this whole shit has ruined the love of my beloved Browns. It is hard enough to stay with them with whats went on since '99, then they ditch a decent qb for this guy with THAT hanging over his head? Everyone is getting what they deserve here. Problem is, this is an absolute plan by the league/Browns, which is nauseating.
Ben had one allegation Watson has 26 and counting It's not the fk'n same you racist professional victims.... I don't consider half of my family to be "my people" much less an entire race lol ...
I mean he had 20+ allegations already. I think the ship has sailed on trying to say he shouldn’t be playing, the Browns and the NFL have made it clear what their priorities are.
Never been charged with a crime. Not a single one of the accusers ever went to the cops. The lawyer bringing these lawsuits is close friends with the owner of the Texans.
Yeah who cares about innocent until proven guilty, right? I sure hope you never get accused of a crime you didn't commit. Love all the knee jerk reactions from the usual virtue signalers.
Right.. Because women NEVER lie about these things. Just ask Trevor Bauer and Johnny Depp. Weird how she waited 4 years and the first game of the season to come forward, with ZERO trips to the police. Yeah very credible.
@@chaunceyg5657 ROTFLMAO! Yes, dozens of women are lying. People like you are unbelievable. People like you are why women who have been raped or assaulted are reluctant to come out or testify.
@@chaunceyg5657 Right the 24 women must of have all been lying. Get a clue buddy. Those incidents only involved 1 or 2 women not 24 so nice try. The News Media were the ones who released the news about Watson new rape lawsuit during the beginning of the season. In order to get more attention. So its not on the victim. This was being handled privately. So again get a clue lil boy.
Even worse, they structured his contract so that he only would make $1 million in the first year so he wouldn't take a big hit if any of the allegations paid out in a lawsuit. They actively helped him try to avoid the consequences of his actions.
@rsub8833 How do you know Deshaun didn't do those acts? How many accusers are there? Jesus only needed 12 apostles to convince The Whole World He was The Son of The Almighty.
@@CosaNostra72 Convince the whole world eh? That the whole story if anyone actually looks into it is complete BS? The book itsef promotes slavery, sexism, homophobia, and genocide. Far worst than Watson could imagine.
@@CosaNostra72 He doesn't know and he also isn't itching to condemn somebody based on "allegations". Since you want to bring Christ into this, it was "allegations" that nailed him to the cross.
Deshaun paid 24 million dollars to silence witnesses against him. Stop pretending its like you or me being accused of the same crime 20 times and not being indicted. Also thats another reason to try and void the deal. At a moments notice he could get arrested and be unable to play and a further PR disaster.
Apparently from my understanding it was from a later allegation around the same time the other cases were up against him. The media knows what they are doing.
@@geelangfordo3272he didn’t settle for nowhere near that amount. Settling is not an admission to guilt. It was settled to get it out of the news cycle. Even if he took it trial and won, it wouldn’t have mattered whether he was guilty or not because he name would have been already dragged through the mud too much. He was never charged with any crime. The cops refused to go near the case. The DA refused to go near it. And two grand juries passed on bringing any charges against him. There was no believable evidence presented against him, that’s why there were no charges. None of the accusers went to law enforcement. Not even when they got the same lawyer. The lawyer representing these women at no time advised them to go to law enforcement. In fact, law enforcement didn’t know about the allegations until it came out in the media. Not too mention this lawyer is close friends with the owner of the Texans.
Jets Great Pass Defense • When someone says their team has great pass defense, one has to question that team’s offense because if you’re always losing at halftime, your opponent runs the ball the second half. Hence, your pass defense looks great statistically.
If they were willing to pay him before they shouldn't be able to get out of the contract. What's left of it should all go to a woman's shelter in the Houston area.
4:30 100% correct. People in Cleveland are only talking about being outraged about this latest allegation because Watson has played so poorly. If he was playing well, they would ignore this one too. The previous 26 allegations didn't bother them, so I am not buying their find out range on behalf of this alleged victim.
we need to be careful with the word "monster", those new allegations are just that, allegations, they might be false, you cannot condemn a man based on this
No don’t condemn a person with 1 incident but the dude had 30 allegations. He had 66 women in a 17 month span give him “massages”. This is not normal and he’s not normal.
What the hell. Jets got dismantled. 49ers running game dominated an overrated defense that got manhandled by a no name running back. CMC didn’t even play. San Fran had 8 consecutive scores. Yeah Jets got DISMANTLED!!!
It's disgusting that the Browns were fine with 26 allegations when they thought #4 was going to be good. Now that he's done, they're NOW paying attention to one allegation.
The acuser said to meet at her house rather than a public setting.. thats sus right there. She felt more comfortable meeting a stranger in her house than in a public setting. You cant believe these stories they are so dramatic and full of odd things to make them seem so brutal.
Just to be clear, Mike, this isn't some sort of "last straw" for the fans who you think were defending his behavior when we thought he was a good player. The majority of us did not want him from the get go. Don't associate us with him. The front office is a different story.
I told every Watson was fools gold, his great stats in Houston all came in garbage time, none of his TD were in the first quarter and all against prevent defenses when the game was out of reach. That year he was 4-12…4 and 12.
He always gave me the creeps when he was at Clemson. I lost it when my cousin' son was given a Deshawn jersey as a baby. I knew then something was terrible even then, even though we didn't realize the extent of what he did. Someone should look at his behavior while at Clemson.
This is exactly what the Brown's want sports media to be saying rn. The only clauses they have to get out of the contract is conduct detrimental to the team. For the Brown's ownership this only has to do with on the field issues with is really sad, especially for me because I've had to root against my Brown's a lot recently (except for the end of last year).
Would the Browns get out of the salary cap hit if he goes down for se#ual assault? Wouldnt be surprised if the franchise is working behind the scenes to build a new case against him.
It is nice to see that the problem in Cleveland is management and the owners. Baker Mayfield was trashed by the sports commentators as the problem for 3 years. Hope he is having a laugh.
Deshawn is by far the FREAKIESH NFL player that we have ever known. His interest in playing football has gone. He just wants to play FREAK Ball, it seems. He already has 240 million plus guaranteed so he just shows up win or loose he really does not give a F.
@@C007MiamiMoods Well I said that when all of those women told their massage stories. I was a hard Deshawn fan. But if this freaky $hit is still going on (I heard it is), the dude is truly sad.
Craigslist massage specialists are completely trustworthy! Funny how there isn’t one bit of physical evidence or video or recorded call. They all settle? Not one demands going to trial?
Worst trade in sports history. Stupidest trade in NFL history. Most tone deaf contract ever given. The Cleveland Football Elves have been a total joke since their return in 99. Now, they have a literal sexual predator/deviant as the face of their franchise with the most immovable contract in sports history. When you are literally needing a legal clause to be triggered as your only way out from a deal... You probably shouldn't have inked it to begin with. Their fanbase went with it cause they were desperate to be credible on a national level. Josh Gordon lost his career cause of WEED. Watson got the deal of a lifetime while having settled more lawsuits than he has wins for his current team.
Meanwhile, the Haslam’s “lesser” franchise that’s overlooked by Dee is the Columbus Crew, who are the toast of the MLS and can very well win another trophy this December. I hate Jimmy Haslam, and as a life long Browns fan born into the curse, I’m actually glad they’re getting comeuppance. I was disgusted the moment they signed him two years ago, and I haven’t watched a game where he’s started. To see fans support him after the famous signing made me sick. They deserve the next era that follows. I don’t even know what else to say I’m so filled with schadenfreude.
As a fellow Browns fan (from across the pond), I agree with you. I have watched all the games he's played and apart from half a game against Baltimore, he's been poor and full of excuses. Signing him was 100% Haslam's project, then he quickly backtracked and said it was a footballing decision before the ownership got involved. Basically throwing Andrew Berry under the bus. The majority of Browns fans just wanted an elite QB, but not at the expense of the future of the franchise. This has and will set the Browns back for years. The timing of this new allegation seems convenient for the Browns don't you think? Only needs to be suspended by the league to trigger the get out clause.
Im sorry i dont believe her at all. I read the police report of the others who claimed they was sexually assaulted and i call cap on them too. Im not a browns or Houston fan but dont uou find it strange that as soon as deshaun wanted out of the houston the lawyer who lives down the streets from the owner of the texans all of sudden had this lawsuit ready to go? Not to mention these women couldnt even keep their story together for the cops to arrest him. Unless when you get sexually assaulted you run to the your lawyer first then the cops 4 weeks or so later then she got a case.
What I think I heard was the Browns decision reset the market for QBs. Which was an idiotic decision then and even more so now. With the news Watson still out here getting cheek rubs from IG models. 😂😂😂
The GM and HC should be escorted out of the building as well. To think you can win with someone with all of these mental and character issues is ridiculous.
This show ignores tyrek hills alleged domestic violence but wants Watson out of the league. How about if you hurt women or children you spend the rest of your life in a dark hole.
I don’t believe this newest allegation. Use your brains people. There’s no excuse to wait almost 5 years to file a lawsuit. No fear of repercussions because literally 25 other women were filing at the same time.
If you interview professionals who deal with people who have been sexually assaulted/raped then they will tell you there are plenty of reasons why women don’t come forward with their experiences at all, and many times when they do it is years after the incident. Trauma is a hell of a thing that can literally change people physically & psychologically. So you can miss me with that “there’s no excuse “ bullsh*t.
@@emilianoo.1596 I get that. But it doesn’t make it the right decision. If it happens to you report it. It’s not fair. It’s not right. But it’s necessary. They have an obligation to themselves and to other potential victims.
@@emilianoo.1596 And when I say report it - I mean sooner rather than later. Because what they don’t realize is that they could’ve saved other people from the same thing.
@@realmassconsumption “It doesn’t make it the right decision” “If it happens to you report it” “It’s not fair…it’s not right” “The have an obligation…” “Because what they don’t realize is…” ^^^Yeah, my man, the violent trauma of rape doesn’t give a flying sh*t about any of that. It can literally rearrange a person’s psychological & emotional stasis whereby the seemingly “simple” act of reporting their assault isn’t even a factor because what is a simple civil task or “obligation” to you and I (ie, persons who haven’t been sexually assaulted/raped - here, I’m assuming you haven’t been violated in such a way in your life. Forgive me if I’m incorrect) isn’t often the same for those who have been sexually assaulted. You seem to be using reason & logic from the vantage point of someone who hasn’t gone thru that violent trauma, and they don’t live in that space any longer - it was violently taken away from them.
@@emilianoo.1596you don’t know me at all. I was abused as a child. I’ve lived at a homeless shelter. Was taken advantage of by a social worker to do things for money. I’ve got my scars for sure. But I reported it. And you know what happened? I got kicked out of the homeless shelter. I ate cheesey breadsticks out of little ceasers dumpster. No I don’t regret any of it. Because years later I checked and he’s in prison for the same thing I accused him of. I like to think I started a paper trail.
the Einsteins in the most astute front office in the NFL - who got him off a one-year-rest on the bench - with allegations already swirling - and set fire to 230 mio deserve this. Meanwhile, in Tampa, KARMA is happening big time.
Yes deshaun has looked like trash all 3 seasons in cleveland. Meanwhile baker is leading the nfl in tds and passer rating. Worst trade ever. Berry should be fired for this trade.
So if any woman waits 40 years of now to accuse Watson, Lebatard and his merry liberals will just accept it. I mean I'm no fan of Watson, but some of these allegations could be a money grab. I mean the story on its face seems suspect. Also, what would these guys say if Watson was leading the league in every passing category
Maybe Clev can find an out on the contract and save a 50 mil~idiots. They better do some soul searching for the next decade of how they made the HOF of legendary contract blunders.
Until we see court testimonies? it's talkin shit, wasted air. My take is, this one was waiting in the wings till he got a couple more paychecks cause the first round of cases sucked him dry. 5 years from now, he'll be sleeping on an old teammates couch, dead broke.
My problem with this allegation is supposedly this occurred in 2020, it's now 2024. So why did it take the "victim" 4 years to come forward. If this was a forceable SA, why not contact the police right after the event, why wait 4 years to file a civil law suit.
Cleveland should take that 230 million and donate it to battered women shelters. They knowingly took him in so they are just as guilty.
@olenpittman21 And all Deshaun Watson supporters should go clean all of those shelters.
Community service for blatantly wanting to be fooled.
Committing sexual assault and hiring a person who committed sexual assault are not the same levels of guilt
What about the Dolphins, Falcons and Saints
Steelers with Rothlisberger
Its pretty close though. It shows the GM and owners have no morals and thought they could sweep it under the rug and cover it up. Covering it up is just as bad. Stop it.
Browns the dumbest franchise in history of sports
At this point it’s intentional.
They give that Washington Generals vibe.
@sal4856 Is this what happens when the masses are appeased? The Browns fans wanted him. Double down in Deshaun defense after Joe Flacco embarrassed Watson with his mastery of the offense. Enjoy Deshaun Watson! Celebrate Him 🎉.
The Browns have been saddled with terrible ownership since '99, and Model wasn't exactly great, either.
@alfgwahigain5544 that was ions ago. Browns fans wanted DW4 over Baker Mayfield. Reap what you sow.
Worst contract in sports history.
The Browns deserve this, to intentionally put a clause that pays Watson only 1 million dollars the first year of the contract so he didn't lose much money during his suspension is all I needed to see to fortify my stance that they completely deserve all of this.
He's a predator.
@jimmyfaherty8588 and do you think that by saying it the NFL, The media and his own kinfoke care? Not one iota.
@@CosaNostra72???? Speak English
@@jimmyfaherty8588 you mean down to your grade level?
You everywhere with comments that’s cool u really putting a lot of energy into this ain’t u.
@@CosaNostra72 La cosa nostra name with no profile face. Living in moms basement for sure
They brought in Brady who initially struggled with the no risk it, no biscuit, until they scrapped it for an offense suitable to his strengths, then also got Gronk, Fournette, AB, improved that terrible line and that terrible secondary that Jameis had to work with. Keep it real, don't act like it was the same team or approach.
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Yeah but the man threw 30 PICKS and 6 were pick 6!!!!!
@@sirjer73 and he threw 33 tds and 5100 yards, and if you actually watched the games you would see a lot of those picks were tips on catchable balls and receivers running wrong routes in New offense. Everybody who played in that offense the first year had career high ints, and before that season his high was a rookie. And I'm not saying he won't throw one because he does, but the narrative is crazy , especially compared to TD's and yards.
Nah it was pretty much the same team lol
Sexual assault = rape in Texas. However, I agree that saying sexual assault makes it seem like it is a lesser offense than rape. I wish the media would make it clearer what is alleged.
@ShaunRHouser The media muddles and befuddles, especially ESPN.
Sexual assault is rape everywhere bruh lol. I need more than old allegations.
I don't think rape is a legal term. People are charged with assault, aggravated or child. I agree that it seems lesser, like he went for another massage. As you probably know, this one is different and initially, it was hard to find the details. Media seems to still protect him. They could say 'rape' and give details but they pretend they are too graphic (as if that ever held them back) or they don't have both sides of the story. If CLE delays dumping Watson to try to void the contract, while waiting for the NFL to weigh in, they'll look worse than ever. Sports talk doesn't want to talk about the case (except Mike Florio), because a lot are ex-players who support their own. This is a bad look for the NFL.
Yeah especially when it’s all a lie
@@marloncoley1810 Deshaun, is that you?
Some of you wanted Deshaun Watson on this team.
Some.... not everyone... some didn't want anything to do with this creep.
Most did. Now theure trying to walk it back.
@@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om you're not speaking for "most" Brown's fans.
Didn't Flores want to bring him to Miami?
😮 . Carolina and atlanta also wanted deshawn
'Strategic leaking' is a good way to put it. I do think multiple people in the Brown's front office new about this allegation and had it under wraps, under their control in the event that they needed to jettison from the contract. 'Break glass in case of non-performance.' and just when they are through with him. The timing just feels that sinister.
It absolutely is sinister. And conveys the message 'you can do whatever as long as you play at a superstar level'. No way this is a coincidence,which is disgusting. I never wanted Watson. From the rip, this whole shit has ruined the love of my beloved Browns. It is hard enough to stay with them with whats went on since '99, then they ditch a decent qb for this guy with THAT hanging over his head? Everyone is getting what they deserve here. Problem is, this is an absolute plan by the league/Browns, which is nauseating.
Where was this energy for Big Ben?
Ben lucked out that his transgressions occurred before social media was prevalent.
you right. we should just let Deshaun chill because no one got mad at Big Ben
Yt ppl energy is diff when it comes their own kind
The energy was definitely there, and Ben won a super bowl, so many people who were against it couldn't say much.
Ben had one allegation
Watson has 26 and counting
It's not the fk'n same you racist professional victims....
I don't consider half of my family to be "my people" much less an entire race lol ...
Thank you Mike Ryan ! have been bitching about this creep for years, Loved the Browns for E V E R! now the name makes me want to hurl!!!!
I mean he had 20+ allegations already. I think the ship has sailed on trying to say he shouldn’t be playing, the Browns and the NFL have made it clear what their priorities are.
Never been charged with a crime. Not a single one of the accusers ever went to the cops. The lawyer bringing these lawsuits is close friends with the owner of the Texans.
You would think if he had that many he would have been arrested if they was true right ?
Ban this dude from the league and void his contract for conduct detrimental. He belongs in jail.
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Not happening
Yeah who cares about innocent until proven guilty, right? I sure hope you never get accused of a crime you didn't commit. Love all the knee jerk reactions from the usual virtue signalers.
Browns fan?
@@chaunceyg5657 surprised you can still breathe with all the Watson in your throat.
Haslam is a ghoul for doing this deal (and yes, it was him, not "the front office") and it shows he's amoral and unethical, but also a terrible owner.
The browns get what they deserve,I hope they have to eat that contract.
Just realized… he did this AFTER all the lawsuits came forward. His behaviour didn’t get better. It got exponentially worse.
Right.. Because women NEVER lie about these things. Just ask Trevor Bauer and Johnny Depp. Weird how she waited 4 years and the first game of the season to come forward, with ZERO trips to the police. Yeah very credible.
@@chaunceyg5657 ROTFLMAO! Yes, dozens of women are lying. People like you are unbelievable. People like you are why women who have been raped or assaulted are reluctant to come out or testify.
@@chaunceyg5657they had one case for the each of them this was over 20
Has it even been proven??? This is so irresponsible
@@chaunceyg5657 Right the 24 women must of have all been lying. Get a clue buddy.
Those incidents only involved 1 or 2 women not 24 so nice try.
The News Media were the ones who released the news about Watson new rape lawsuit during the beginning of the season. In order to get more attention. So its not on the victim. This was being handled privately. So again get a clue lil boy.
saying this about someone over a new allegation that hasn’t been proven is disingenuous especially if he’s proven innocent
What? Why would He payout the other lawsuits? He wanted to go to court to clean his name. Why?
He wasn't proven innocent in the other cases......he settled out of court.
The NFL will investigate this allegation faster than the legal system.
Um....sure
Browns should be held accountable
For what?? That's incredibly dumb logic. They picked up a player, just like a ton other teams were trying to do... 🙄
The browns new he was a monster they just didnt care if he was going to win games. Things change when your losing.
😮... haslem said u have to overlook some flaws to get talent ..smh
That's Jimmy Haslam, an awful owner.
Even worse, they structured his contract so that he only would make $1 million in the first year so he wouldn't take a big hit if any of the allegations paid out in a lawsuit. They actively helped him try to avoid the consequences of his actions.
How you know he did that? Women can say anythang to a man and get away with it. The will shine in the end
@rsub8833 How do you know Deshaun didn't do those acts? How many accusers are there? Jesus only needed 12 apostles to convince The Whole World He was The Son of The Almighty.
@@CosaNostra72 Convince the whole world eh? That the whole story if anyone actually looks into it is complete BS? The book itsef promotes slavery, sexism, homophobia, and genocide. Far worst than Watson could imagine.
@@CosaNostra72 He doesn't know and he also isn't itching to condemn somebody based on "allegations". Since you want to bring Christ into this, it was "allegations" that nailed him to the cross.
@@toast2logic487 I don't care about religion, It was a pathetic attempt to be facetious.
@@toast2logic487 PREACH
Being a Browns fan is the worst aspect of my life
Enjoy!! 😂
@@QuanahParker17 Asssss lol
Look at the bright side.....they might make playoffs!!
Another assault yet none of these people are pressing charges these are all civil suits
Deshaun paid 24 million dollars to silence witnesses against him. Stop pretending its like you or me being accused of the same crime 20 times and not being indicted. Also thats another reason to try and void the deal. At a moments notice he could get arrested and be unable to play and a further PR disaster.
Apparently from my understanding it was from a later allegation around the same time the other cases were up against him. The media knows what they are doing.
@@geelangfordo3272he didn’t settle for nowhere near that amount. Settling is not an admission to guilt. It was settled to get it out of the news cycle. Even if he took it trial and won, it wouldn’t have mattered whether he was guilty or not because he name would have been already dragged through the mud too much. He was never charged with any crime. The cops refused to go near the case. The DA refused to go near it. And two grand juries passed on bringing any charges against him. There was no believable evidence presented against him, that’s why there were no charges. None of the accusers went to law enforcement. Not even when they got the same lawyer. The lawyer representing these women at no time advised them to go to law enforcement. In fact, law enforcement didn’t know about the allegations until it came out in the media. Not too mention this lawyer is close friends with the owner of the Texans.
Jets Great Pass Defense •
When someone says their team has great pass defense, one has to question that team’s offense because if you’re always losing at halftime, your opponent runs the ball the second half. Hence, your pass defense looks great statistically.
If they were willing to pay him before they shouldn't be able to get out of the contract. What's left of it should all go to a woman's shelter in the Houston area.
4:30 100% correct. People in Cleveland are only talking about being outraged about this latest allegation because Watson has played so poorly. If he was playing well, they would ignore this one too. The previous 26 allegations didn't bother them, so I am not buying their find out range on behalf of this alleged victim.
Allegation
Allegation #28 or more 😂😂
"This was only a matter of time." is the most astute simple summary of the Watson debacle.
we need to be careful with the word "monster", those new allegations are just that, allegations, they might be false, you cannot condemn a man based on this
Watson had a 9.3 qbr week 1 ranking him 32nd dead last in the nfl. literally the worst qb in the nfl right now
We wouldn't want to give monsters a bad name
@@KennethSchamehorn lol facts. Watson is worse than a monster. Creepy predator who sucks at football
No don’t condemn a person with 1 incident but the dude had 30 allegations. He had 66 women in a 17 month span give him “massages”. This is not normal and he’s not normal.
They don't care. It gives them headlines and someone to attack.
Remember Cleveland wasn't the 9nly team bringing him in. And nothing has been proven yet
Amazing how a " New " charge shows up at the beginning of the season every year ......
NFL: Deshaun is a monster/ sexual predator AND now he's also no damn good at football? Time to take a stand!
What the hell. Jets got dismantled. 49ers running game dominated an overrated defense that got manhandled by a no name running back. CMC didn’t even play. San Fran had 8 consecutive scores. Yeah Jets got DISMANTLED!!!
It's disgusting that the Browns were fine with 26 allegations when they thought #4 was going to be good. Now that he's done, they're NOW paying attention to one allegation.
The acuser said to meet at her house rather than a public setting.. thats sus right there. She felt more comfortable meeting a stranger in her house than in a public setting. You cant believe these stories they are so dramatic and full of odd things to make them seem so brutal.
Just to be clear, Mike, this isn't some sort of "last straw" for the fans who you think were defending his behavior when we thought he was a good player. The majority of us did not want him from the get go. Don't associate us with him. The front office is a different story.
I told every Watson was fools gold, his great stats in Houston all came in garbage time, none of his TD were in the first quarter and all against prevent defenses when the game was out of reach. That year he was 4-12…4 and 12.
@TGravee Yet, somehow you still want him to replace Tua.
Aint Deshaun got more playoff wins than Ryan Tannehill? Andy Dalton? Kirk Cousin?
He always gave me the creeps when he was at Clemson. I lost it when my cousin' son was given a Deshawn jersey as a baby. I knew then something was terrible even then, even though we didn't realize the extent of what he did. Someone should look at his behavior while at Clemson.
This is exactly what the Brown's want sports media to be saying rn. The only clauses they have to get out of the contract is conduct detrimental to the team. For the Brown's ownership this only has to do with on the field issues with is really sad, especially for me because I've had to root against my Brown's a lot recently (except for the end of last year).
This whole thing feels like a WWE storyline
The Browns may have outbungled the Cincinnati Bunglers!!!😂
Mike trying to bill this as a subtle browns move to get rid of him makes no sense to me
Would the Browns get out of the salary cap hit if he goes down for se#ual assault? Wouldnt be surprised if the franchise is working behind the scenes to build a new case against him.
It is nice to see that the problem in Cleveland is management and the owners. Baker Mayfield was trashed by the sports commentators as the problem for 3 years. Hope he is having a laugh.
Mr kraft need to sell the cheese also😂
I feel like every one of these guys was having a different conversation
The greatest Drive in Jets history lol..... Thank you Rodgers..... Cleveland.... Might be time for Crab Legs😬
Sick Watson jersey
Blue hat guy is 100% right
The Browns should move to the CFL !!!
haslem to mcnair: "so... you guys got anymore dirt on this guy?"
Crazy how we as ppl label someone before they’re guilty of something….. smdh
I will not stand for the Jameis slander
If I were browns GM I’d be pumping these allegations 24/7
I will bet that there is going to be more before this has an end to it.
Deshawn is by far the FREAKIESH NFL player that we have ever known. His interest in playing football has gone. He just wants to play FREAK Ball, it seems. He already has 240 million plus guaranteed so he just shows up win or loose he really does not give a F.
Think if it was that bad he would be in jail. These women are out for cash grabs.
@@C007MiamiMoods Well I said that when all of those women told their massage stories. I was a hard Deshawn fan. But if this freaky $hit is still going on (I heard it is), the dude is truly sad.
@@trienasee2136 you would be a fool to believe so, don’t be naive. Women aren’t innocent as you think
@@C007MiamiMoodsclown
@@C007MiamiMoodsso he’s the only guy with money to come after in the NFL?
College keeps producing running QB's so here we are with poor quarterback play...
All those other women should have been a wakeup call for the NFL.
A good o-line will make a mediocre qb great. A good o-line will make a mediocre rb great. A good o-line wins super bowls.
Watsons far from mediocre, he ranks dead last in qbr, 42nd in qbr over last 3 years lol
Franchise crippling? Browns have never been consistently good
Craigslist massage specialists are completely trustworthy! Funny how there isn’t one bit of physical evidence or video or recorded call. They all settle? Not one demands going to trial?
Exactly. This pitchfork mentality I'm seeing here is fucking weird man.
Thank you for telling on yourself.
Worst trade in sports history.
Stupidest trade in NFL history.
Most tone deaf contract ever given.
The Cleveland Football Elves have been a total joke since their return in 99. Now, they have a literal sexual predator/deviant as the face of their franchise with the most immovable contract in sports history. When you are literally needing a legal clause to be triggered as your only way out from a deal...
You probably shouldn't have inked it to begin with. Their fanbase went with it cause they were desperate to be credible on a national level. Josh Gordon lost his career cause of WEED. Watson got the deal of a lifetime while having settled more lawsuits than he has wins for his current team.
It's just anouther bullshit accusation. Stop being weirdos
Let me guess.....you are not albino, right?
Thank you!
No tradebacks
is there a way Cleveland can be forced to take the cap hit and also not pay Deshaun
He’s a monster and should’ve been banned from league last time
More teams was interested in watson then Lamar Jackson
Agreed but your T. Hill take is a JOKE!
Maybe it’s been about football from the jump
Meanwhile, the Haslam’s “lesser” franchise that’s overlooked by Dee is the Columbus Crew, who are the toast of the MLS and can very well win another trophy this December.
I hate Jimmy Haslam, and as a life long Browns fan born into the curse, I’m actually glad they’re getting comeuppance. I was disgusted the moment they signed him two years ago, and I haven’t watched a game where he’s started. To see fans support him after the famous signing made me sick. They deserve the next era that follows.
I don’t even know what else to say I’m so filled with schadenfreude.
As a fellow Browns fan (from across the pond), I agree with you. I have watched all the games he's played and apart from half a game against Baltimore, he's been poor and full of excuses.
Signing him was 100% Haslam's project, then he quickly backtracked and said it was a footballing decision before the ownership got involved.
Basically throwing Andrew Berry under the bus.
The majority of Browns fans just wanted an elite QB, but not at the expense of the future of the franchise. This has and will set the Browns back for years.
The timing of this new allegation seems convenient for the Browns don't you think? Only needs to be suspended by the league to trigger the get out clause.
Im sorry i dont believe her at all. I read the police report of the others who claimed they was sexually assaulted and i call cap on them too. Im not a browns or Houston fan but dont uou find it strange that as soon as deshaun wanted out of the houston the lawyer who lives down the streets from the owner of the texans all of sudden had this lawsuit ready to go? Not to mention these women couldnt even keep their story together for the cops to arrest him. Unless when you get sexually assaulted you run to the your lawyer first then the cops 4 weeks or so later then she got a case.
Got to love Stugotz
Watson has started 13;games. He's 8-5. Wtf are y'all talking about?
They just want their money back
What I think I heard was the Browns decision reset the market for QBs. Which was an idiotic decision then and even more so now. With the news Watson still out here getting cheek rubs from IG models. 😂😂😂
Everyone callin em a monster swept Trumps admitted sexual misconduct under the rug gtfoh 😂
I think he’s a good dude
The GM and HC should be escorted out of the building as well. To think you can win with someone with all of these mental and character issues is ridiculous.
The browns traded and signed him with all these allegations, they deserve every bit of this disaster.
Lmaooo it’s like him not being able to be on that freaky shit anymore has effected his gameplay 😂😂😂
Ow noooo !!!! We suck again!!!!
He wont be on the excempt list tho. Smh
This show ignores tyrek hills alleged domestic violence but wants Watson out of the league. How about if you hurt women or children you spend the rest of your life in a dark hole.
He shouldnt be playing after his performance on the field, fk the allegations
I don’t believe this newest allegation. Use your brains people. There’s no excuse to wait almost 5 years to file a lawsuit. No fear of repercussions because literally 25 other women were filing at the same time.
If you interview professionals who deal with people who have been sexually assaulted/raped then they will tell you there are plenty of reasons why women don’t come forward with their experiences at all, and many times when they do it is years after the incident. Trauma is a hell of a thing that can literally change people physically & psychologically. So you can miss me with that “there’s no excuse “ bullsh*t.
@@emilianoo.1596 I get that. But it doesn’t make it the right decision. If it happens to you report it. It’s not fair. It’s not right. But it’s necessary. They have an obligation to themselves and to other potential victims.
@@emilianoo.1596 And when I say report it - I mean sooner rather than later. Because what they don’t realize is that they could’ve saved other people from the same thing.
@@realmassconsumption “It doesn’t make it the right decision”
“If it happens to you report it”
“It’s not fair…it’s not right”
“The have an obligation…”
“Because what they don’t realize is…”
^^^Yeah, my man, the violent trauma of rape doesn’t give a flying sh*t about any of that. It can literally rearrange a person’s psychological & emotional stasis whereby the seemingly “simple” act of reporting their assault isn’t even a factor because what is a simple civil task or “obligation” to you and I (ie, persons who haven’t been sexually assaulted/raped - here, I’m assuming you haven’t been violated in such a way in your life. Forgive me if I’m incorrect) isn’t often the same for those who have been sexually assaulted. You seem to be using reason & logic from the vantage point of someone who hasn’t gone thru that violent trauma, and they don’t live in that space any longer - it was violently taken away from them.
@@emilianoo.1596you don’t know me at all. I was abused as a child. I’ve lived at a homeless shelter. Was taken advantage of by a social worker to do things for money. I’ve got my scars for sure. But I reported it. And you know what happened? I got kicked out of the homeless shelter. I ate cheesey breadsticks out of little ceasers dumpster. No I don’t regret any of it. Because years later I checked and he’s in prison for the same thing I accused him of. I like to think I started a paper trail.
Dude needs to be off the streets. My gosh.
He's a monster
Are they allegations or convictions?
Atlanta wanted him.. ,,
Deshaun will surely have a career at Brazzers after the league blackballs (pun intended) him
the Einsteins in the most astute front office in the NFL - who got him off a one-year-rest on the bench - with allegations already swirling - and set fire to 230 mio deserve this. Meanwhile, in Tampa, KARMA is happening big time.
Yes deshaun has looked like trash all 3 seasons in cleveland. Meanwhile baker is leading the nfl in tds and passer rating. Worst trade ever. Berry should be fired for this trade.
So if any woman waits 40 years of now to accuse Watson, Lebatard and his merry liberals will just accept it. I mean I'm no fan of Watson, but some of these allegations could be a money grab. I mean the story on its face seems suspect. Also, what would these guys say if Watson was leading the league in every passing category
I guess everyone is guilty until
Innocent. It’s a money grab, anyone can c this. Watson is 8-5 as a starter, how terrible.
Sounds like he should join the Republican Party
Maybe Clev can find an out on the contract and save a 50 mil~idiots. They better do some soul searching for the next decade of how they made the HOF of legendary contract blunders.
Until we see court testimonies? it's talkin shit, wasted air. My take is, this one was waiting in the wings till he got a couple more paychecks cause the first round of cases sucked him dry. 5 years from now, he'll be sleeping on an old teammates couch, dead broke.
Wrong
My problem with this allegation is supposedly this occurred in 2020, it's now 2024. So why did it take the "victim" 4 years to come forward. If this was a forceable SA, why not contact the police right after the event, why wait 4 years to file a civil law suit.
Mike Ryan socks more air than whatever is considered to suck the most air