Speaking as an Australian, I would like to point out here that Ned Kelly was born by Irish parents. In Australia, the Irish were heavily mistreated by the Police and government of the time. Also, his father was a free Irish convict who secured his freedom and many convict families were mistreated heavily by authority back in the day. So, there were many shortcomings that led Ned to choosing his lawless career as a bushranger. Good video man.
rowbo88 RUBBISH COMMENT. 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH. Kelly was not mistreated by the police or the government, as the 1881 Royal commission established. If you claim that was the position, present your evidence.
Ned was martyred. it wasn't just the Irish they targeted. The cops cuffed Aboriginals then cut their penis off, laughing as they ran around screaming before slowly decapitating them alive. Women were raped and or stabbed in the vagina with sabers or anything they could muster, Elders incinerated alive, children beaten, raped and kidnapped into harems of prostitution run by police, cops competing with each other who could kick the babies heads the furthest. The psychopathy so repugnant it became an honor for them to historically record their actions, Pedo headhunting cops, These maggots ruined Australian history, now their pupae govern and police us off the wealth they generated. That's what's wrong with Australia, police psychopathy!
What many do not know is that Ned and his gang consisted of far more than just the 4 of them. Many locals were ready for when the train derailed and the police were ambushed and killed or taken prisoner. The plan was to then march en masse to Melbourne to sieze government and start a revolution against British rule. The situation with the Irish miners and other impoverished people was such, that the plan very nearly succeeded. Also, Neds father, Red Kelly was involved in the uprising at the Eureka Stockade in Ballarat against the miners right fees, so it could be quite rightly said that the Kelly family were revolutionaries. This is more than likely the reason the family was targeted by the police from the get go. The FACT that so many signed a petition for clemency for Ned shows that revolution was indeed simmering just beneath the surface of 1870-80's Australia. One can only wonder what Australia would be like now had they succeeded. THIS is the reason Ned and his companions are considered heroes by many freedom loving Australians up to this day. SUCH IS LIFE. R.I.P Ned
luke S What a load of tripe you have written. Nothing you have stated is true. The Kelly gang consisted of 4 men. Ned Kelly, Dan Kelly, Steve, Hart and Joe Byrne. There were no locals at Glenrowan waiting for the train to be derailed. Made up fiction by pro Kelly authors. Ned Kelly intended to murder all the police and civilians on the train, when ride to Benalla and rob the banks and blow up the police station. Nothing to do with Melbourne at all. Red Kelly had nothing to do with the Eureka Stockade. The suggestion that Ned Kelly intended to proclaim a republic was made up by Ian Jones, a pro Kelly author. It was total rubbish and was not true. The petition has about 3-4,000 genuine signatures on it, not 30,000 as claimed. It is still in possession of Records, Victoria. You are talking made up rubbish, luke, and the sooner you wake up to the fact that you know nothing about Ned Kelly the better off we will all be.
@@samsabastian5560 Believe what you like. I will do likewise, however, I wont degrade myself by lowering myself to childish insults and assertions of superior " intellect", if you can call it that. It is a well known FACT there were many, many kelly sympathisers. I suggest you re read your history. Red Kelly was associated with the ballarat miners and rebellion. I suppose the chinstrap worn under the nose was a " made up" fiction too eh???
My great great great grand father was also there with Red & his surname was Donney. His son’s opened the fist foundry in NSW at marrickville AP Donney & Sons and were the first to bring taps as we know them know into Australia which was disputed latter in life with the other party backing down on court day. I still have a brass lamp their made in 1923 for the US first fleet to visit Australia. The government asked them to make them only 10 were made and given to high ranking officials and one to stay in the family. It no longer has a power lead or light fitting as some stupid family member tried turning it into something else
@@gloryglory5688 better a fenian than loyalist any bloody day. Even in Australia, we remember. The tricolour will fly over a UNITED ireland one day very soon. Look at the U.K now, the last piece of glue holding it together is now dead.
The gallows still stand. I went there a few years ago it's quite impressive. Not sure about now but most of the Kelly gangs armour and weaponry were on display along with his death mask.
"Game as Ned", or "Game as Kelly" is still used today as a term for actions that would be considered valiant but of no consequence to the outcome of a situation...
As an Aussie, I know the traps-police tormented his his family. A drunken cop came to the Kelly homestead using the excuse of looking for brothers Dan & Mrs Kelly, the drunken cop made advances towards the young sister of the Kelly brothers, Ned's mum Ellen whacked the copper over the head. . . .the drunken cop returned to town and made false charges and Ellen Kelly was imprisoned. Eventually Ned was hung and his mother was in the same prison.They buried Ned in an unmarked grave but have since found his grave.
Aaron Paterson What you have written is fictitious nonsense. The police treated the Kelly family as they should, as the Royal commission held in 1881 found. Constable Fitzpatrick was not drunk as you claim, and he made no approach to Kate Kelly. You need to research properly and stop reading the myths.
@@samsabastian5560 I think you have only written your reply based on the police officers reports. If what I've written doesn't jibe with your version, then you have not researched as much of the historical accounts gleaned from various accounts by many of the people who kept their mouths shut AT THE TIME for fear of being jailed like Ned's mother. Merry Christmas to you 🎄
@@aaronpaterson1615 The Royal Commission said the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's. The owner of the Winton hotel said in evidence that Fitzpatrick had one brandy and lemonade only. After Ned Kelly was captured, he confirmed that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister. William Williamson who was there confirmed Fitzpatrick's story. What other evidence do you need, to realise your comment is a load of fictitious rubbish?
@@HLsab YES, seeing all the Commissioners appointed were anti-police. They went after the police, yet found they behaved properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of the Kelly's. Here is what they wrote in their report. "It may also be mentioned that the charge of persecution of the family by the members of the police force has been frequently urged in extenuation of the crimes of the outlaws; but, after careful examination, your Commissioners have arrived at the conclusion that the police, in their dealings with the Kelly's and their relations, were simply desirous of discharging their duty conscientiously; and that no evidence has been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police." Your knowledge is somewhat lacking as to the facts Luke.
With all due respect, I must say that as a lifelong student of Kelly gang history, you have pretty much got the story correct in a nutshell, except for some minor indescrepancies. Good to see the story of Kelly still being shared for those who are keen history buffs. 👍
with all due respect that's garbage..there are two witness accounts of the shootings at Strinybark Creek..the surviving officers..and the account given in the Jerilderee letter..many experts believe had it been admitted to evidence the verdict may have been a different one
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
I was born & lived 10 minutes from Melbourne, and seen his armour & death mask in Old Melbourne Goal. He had reasons for his actions. The Irish were treated horribly by banks and police. You missed the assault of his sister by a constable which was the catalyst, and that his mother and sister were later unjustly imprisoned to force Ned to surrender. Also the gangs removal of train rails leading to Glenrowan, which if successful would of killed dozens of police who wanted the gang dead. The Story of The Kelly Gang; Australia's first moving picture, Ned's mother was invited to attend the premier and declined. Images of Kelly and the Kelly Gang seen in armour were police recreations after their deaths. Or from the above 1906 film. For many years, the skull of Ned Kelly was used a paperweight on the Wardens desk at Old Melbourne Goal, his armour, guns, skull and body was stolen, lost and partially returned. His mother was subject to cruel torment by the Law during life and after death. Ned was admired by the people of Australia because he fought for rights of people unjustly treated by those in power or authority who absconded Justice. Many of Kellys robberies included bank mortgages of immigrants, that he then burnt. The 1800s banks and police of Australia were viewed as criminals by the immigrant community, Ned was fighting justice in the form of revenge against whom most viewed as above the law.
Dumb comment through and through. Nothing you have stated is true. Two of the early premiers in Victoria were IRISH. 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH. Kelly murdered 3 police at Stringybark Creek. They were all IRISH. Ned Kelly and his family were LOATHED by the people living in the Greta area. Poor settlers kept their meagre savings in the two banks that Ned Kelly robbed. Some of the documents he burnt were title deeds that destroyed the rightful poor settlers being able to prove they owned their property. The police were well respected in NE Victoria, as the Royal Commission found. Your comments are a load of fictitious nonsense. You have no idea.
@@Damnedlegion40k NO, it is YOU that has no idea, Damned. You have been fed on fiction, and you are not bright enough to work out that you have been conned.
Very well man, I learned much and enjoyed the right photos, love your Australia English as well (was this p. c. I wonder..), need sometimes subtitles. :~) and is there a real and maybe a more reliable film /movie around besides the Jagger thing? God's Blessing from Northern Germany!
"Wrap me up in my stock-whip and blanket, and bury me deep down below. Where the dingoes and crows won't molest me, in the shade where the Coolabah grows" -
That has the same sentiment and nearly the same cadence as "Fiddler's Green". "Wrap me up in my oilskin and jumper. No more on the docks I'll be seen. Tell all my shipmates, I'm going on a trip mate. And I'll see them all in Fidder's Green."
Caz Kelly Most of the police in NE Victoria were well respected family men, who kept their towns free from the Kelly scourge. Your comment is not true in any sense.
Still not,but it's a bit harder to get away with murder,like they did in the 70s/80s and 90s,they rat each other out now,like Instagram Nike bikies,Ned knew how to deal with informers...
@@samsabastian5560 your full of s$@t mate. I bet your in love with Dan Andrews too Pigs were corrupt then Still are now Many were sacked. Reprimanded erc etc Then And still happening now You should just marry Dan and get it over with missy
@@Anmouss Yeah it was a cop or even just a local, they took pics of all the armour for police evidence or whatever reason.I think it is Ned's armour but it's not Ned, he's within the area that this photo was taken, but he isn't quite able to stand at this point.
Hang on a minute mate. He didn’t murder 3 coppers Those coppers went into the bush to shoot and kill Ned and he’s boys. So all he did was defend himself and he’s boys And as for Fitzpatrick do you think that a crack shot like Ned would fire a couple of shots and miss him. Come on give me a break Read Frank Clunes magnificent book written in 1954 called the Kelly Hunters Only book with true history
Found Ned Kelly's story interesting, so i ended up doing a historical deep dive, but what I also found was so disturbing, it completely ruins Australian history, a police action so repugnant, it will scar your mind forever. Police enjoyed hunting children for sex and profit, really evil cops whom murdered/decapitated parents by the thousands, their children kidnapped and raped into large harems of children prostitution, the immense wealth and power generated intergenerational, so their kin continue to police and or govern us today, all historically documented Australian history. Whole families, clans, tribes, races wiped out, decapitated by police, the headless sun bleached bones of which can still be found today in remote locations. Ned met the same fate, decapitated, his skull a trophy on a cops desk, martyred by police.
@@samsabastian5560 It's all historically documented! Are you illiterate? Or is it cognitive dissonant plausible deniability? Ask the UN if historically documented Australian history isn't enough proof for you lol, because it was they whom finally put a stop to Queensland police hunting Aboriginals for sport, pleasure and profit it in 1972. It get's worse, Queensland police were so belligerent the UN was forced to threatened military intervention to stop them. Totally repugnant, sick to the stomach.
A very young John Jarret from wolf creek stars as Ned Kelly in a 4 part movie from about 1980 and it's brilliant laden with good AUSTRALIAN acting talent Sigrid Thornton, Steve Bisley and a few other good one's as WELL
Several serious mistakes. It was Kelly who was camped at Stringy Bark Creek, not the police. The police rode in shooting and Kelly stood up and called on them to Surrender. In 1980 the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Victoria stated Kelly should have been convicted of Manslaughter not, murder. Reason, Police had gone out as private citizens in plain clothes to collect the rewards, not as policemen, stating that they were going to bring the gang back dead. Also, the Chief Justice said the Judge Sir Redman Berry did not give him a fair trial. I also understand that the doctor stated that Fitzpatricks wound was from a metal object not a gunshot. Kelly commented that if he wanted to shoot the bastard he would not have missed at 3 feet. On the occasion Kelly was working as a timber cutter and arrived home to Find his mother trying to stop Fitzpatrick assaulting her daughter. After the event numerous police were sacked, including an Inspector Stanish who shot civilians escaping from the hotel at Glenrowan. All police from Greta were removed, and a new unbiased Sergeant was installed who over a few years resolved the conflict between the settlers and the squatters. Other than the policeman Kelly did not shoot any others. Kelly was a criminal, but he was also a product of the time where there was continual conflict between the police and squatters and the common people. Certainly NOT an excellent episode>
Nothing you have stated is correct. Where are you finding this fictitious rot. Let me put you straight. 1. It was the police party of 4 that were camped at Stringybark Creek. Ned Kelly ambushed them and shot Lonigan as soon as he moved, killing him instantly. 2. The Chief Justice relied on the fiction written by Ian Jones to make that comment. He was badly misinformed. 3. All police in those days wore plain clothes. That was normal. 4. They had two sets of handcuffs with them to secure the prisoners. The reward was only £100. 5. The doctor that examined Fitzpatrick's wound, said it was probably a bullet wound. Your comment is not true. 6. Kate Kelly was never touched by Fitzpatrick. She made up that fiction 10 months after the event to discredit the officer. Again, you are talking nonsense. 7. The only police that were sacked were the 3 police who were in Sherritts hut. No such person as Stanish. You probably mean Chief Commissioner Standish. He was not sacked, as he had retired 6 months before the Royal Commission even started. 8. There was only one incident where Sgt Steele shot at one of the hostages, believing him to be one of the gang members trying to escape. No other police shot at any hostages. 9. No police were removed from Greta, but a new constable was appointed to work at Greta. 10. The so called war between the squatters and the settlers, was settled in the settler's favour by 1869. Well before the Kelly era of criminality. You have no idea. 11. Ned Kelly shot a civilian in the eye at Glenrowan. George Metcalf was shot in the eye accidentally, but Kelly refused him medical attention, and he died 2 months later. What you have stated is a load of garbage, with not one fact correct.
@@stevenguegens9516 Nancy Boy , bloody Hell m8 , you want to come up to Sydney , the Fucken place is riddled with them ! Metro $€×uals , Homo , Dress wearer's , Bearded Hipster ( mostly in love with themselves ) and even grown men on eclectic scooters . About a third of males walking around the city are Men , the other two thirds fall in to subcategories .
We visited Glenrowan this year and seen where Ned was captured and the Inn and I felt sadness when we were there, I don’t see him as a villain cops were brutal back in those days. Love your channel, love from Australia 🇦🇺
Ash Clarke You have got that very wrong, Ash. The Royal Commission into Victoria police in 1881 established that the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of Ned Kelly. Bear in mind that 82% of the police in Victoria at that time were IRISH. He also murdered three IRISH police officers.
@@samsabastian5560 Nope, cops were actually paid by the wealthy landowners so they were extremely prejudice. Shame on you for trusting anything the government 'investigate'. Look at Dan Andrews, it's still going on today!
@@justlucky8254 If you knew what you were talking about, you might not make such a silly comment in future. The Royal Commissioners were all anti-police, and they went after the police. BUT they found the police in NE Victoria acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's. The government mostly rejected the recommendations of the RC. Look a bit deeper next time, as you are way off track with your comment.
@@geoffbell166 I agree there is some corruption, but the police that dealt with Ned Kelly in the 1870's, were mostly decent family men who kept their towns free of the Kelly scourge. The Royal Commission found that those police were not corrupt.
@@samsabastian5560 When Ned was fifteen the most vicious thug Copper named Hall tried to shoot him,and over a horse never stole.Ned gave him what for as the Pig screamed for his life. Never bold without a gun you say ? You lose again brolio
@@DeadKennedys-eo1oo Ned Kelly knew the horse was stolen, and he discussed that with many people, and one gave evidence against him. A jury of 12 men convicted him. Again this clows is telling you lies.
@@MisterSandmanAU The reality is that YOU know nothing about Ned Kelly, with your claim. You have been reading fiction and are silly enough to believe it. You are way off track with the criminality of Ned Kelly.
@@nedkellymyths5173 Ned Kelly was a victim of abuse against the Irish by the corrupt police force of the time. He did what he did because of the way he was treated. He destroyed debts and is lauded as a hero. His only crime was being born a way that others didn't like. If you wanna talk about criminals, then why don't you mention Constable Fitzpatrick, hm?
Try Beechworth, where he was initially tried. Glenrowan (where he had his final showdown with troopers) - it is a bit tacky but still interesting. Old Melbourne gaol, where he was hanged is fascinating. His armour and rifle are displayed at the Victorian State Library.
Made a visit to the jail, entered the cell where he was last kept before the hanging. Trap door and release handle situated just outside on a landing with a large timber beam above,gruesome to say the least.
It is very harrowing indeed…and all those death masks…..really interesting place to visit, I felt sadness for the brutality of what happened to the innocents, however, I still think it wrong in my opinion to end a persons life…..yes they did wrong, but maybe in modern eyes and understanding of today, I feel conflicted, of course back then, it was probably not even considered the harsh sentences handed out….I visited Port Arthur in Tassie, my god it’s horrifying to see how folks who were there, were treated lower than animals….harsh times indeed..
It's a scary place.He was in Pentridge from 15 years old to 19.I can't imagine going to that place as a teen even twenty years ago let alone 1800's.He was moulded by Pentridge, as they say once you enter Pentridge you never really leave.He was even buried there as a final insult to the man.
@@MrOx85 Why did Ned Kelly end up in Pentridge gaol? Because he was a thief. If he was not a thief, he would not have been there. He was there because of his criminal behaviour.
He was friends with my Grandmother’s Grandparents. They owned a horse ranch in El Dorado in Victoria. They used to swap their horses for fresh ones whilst on the run.
@Runaway Puppet Sir Redmond Barry was an outstanding Australian. He did a huge amount to build the colony of Victoria. On the other hand, Ned Kelly was hell-bent on destroying the fledgling colony.
@Runaway Puppet Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
@Runaway Puppet John Nichol is correct. Ned Kelly was just a filthy murdering scumbag, who has been falsely lauded by pro Kelly authors. He was no hero, as the facts disclose.
Good morning, and Thank You for your ALWAYS Excellent, Informative, and Well Done videos! I'm speaking about all of your channels. I started with The Untold Past.
@@samsabastian5560 Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
The account you gave is somewhat accurate and as such i applaud your effort in creating a fine video. For those few unaware of this infamous outlaw(bushranger) it would be an eye opening educational experience.I may have given a wrong impression saying "somewhat" but since some aspects of young Ned Kelly"s life could not entirely be proven ie accounts from the police against his version we just cant say (being fair to both versions of incidents)we can assume things and hope our version is correct.eg Ned Kelly had Irish heritage ,born in Australia and as such considered himself AUSTRALIAN ,AND WANTED TO CREATE A BETTER AUSTRALIA INDEPENDANT OF GB.HIS ACCENT MOST LIKELY AUSTRALIAN WITH A HINT OF IRISH.GAINED FROM HIS PARENTS AND OTHER SETTLERS.In 1970 i met an actor from the ned kelly movie of that year .He was the black tracker a friend of my fathers work colege a white russian immigrant.I was in juniour high .I have some other history might be interesting.My fathers arnt in prospect had been an aquintance of a bush ranger ,i believe lightening jack .she was an expert horse woman meet him on a property up north on one of her rides.
All Ned Kelly wanted was for the police to leave him alone, so he could carry on his extensive criminal empire. You are talking a load of fictitious rubbish.
@@bradwilliams7212 yes after the victorian state refused him and others all avenues to survive ie eat.And today we have the same people not willing to oppose the establishment even in a peaceful way they are still persecuted.
@@aerotuc That is a silly, uninformed comment. The government of Victoria enacted The Lands Act in 1860, to remove squatters and grant land to poor settlers on excellent terms. The legislation was flawed, but by 1869 the settlers had won the day. Many took up the land and 80% of them made a go of it. The Kelly family had the same opportunity, and Ellen Kelly WAS granted an 88acre property. She never worked that land, and encouraged her sons to turn to criminal activities. Tell us, why did most of the settlers succeed, while Ned Kelly turned to crime. You have no idea what you are talking about. I will be interested to read your reply.
@@bradwilliams7212 empire ,a band of 4 or so ,and they had enough ,vertually gave up .Ned told his supportes at the" ok coral"to go home ,dont fight .id forgot this its not bothering me ,are you irish.what answer what did you ask?(oh dont ask about ok coral")
Knowing Australia was the place where england sent their undesirable troublemakers. I can see they also held their noses high when dealing with them in country. The irish had a hard time of it in the USA back then to.
@@samsabastian5560 and muds just wet dirt.Plenty of them moved on to Victoria after their sentences were finished including Neds families and........those who ended up becoming Coppers.
andrew mcdowall If you claim the Kelly's were treated badly by the police, present your evidence. The Royal Commission, held in 1881, found that the police acted properly in their dealings with the Kelly's. So let's see some evidence?
There is not a shred of evidence anywhere that the Kelly family were badly treated by the police. 82% of the police were Irish. You are repeating myths. Show us your evidence of the supposed bad treatment by the police? You will not come back, as you have no evidence to support your fictitious statement.
You want to know about a real bushranger in Australia, who never robbed a needy man or killed a person, yet was gunned down like an animal while he was sleeping? Ben Hall was his name. You can have your Ned Kelly.
@@djquinn11 I am from Tipperary. I read this in an Irish newspaper, which one now escapes me, as I am getting on a bit now (73) but I'm sure it may have been the Clonmel Nationalist. I do seem to remember they came from the vicinity of Cahir. I have read that Hickock's true birth name was Butler, which is a common name in Tipperary, so there is a possibility his grandparents may have met up in Tipperary or through mutual friends of Tipperary origin in the USA. The reason he got the name 'wild bill' I believe, was because of he wild escapades while fighting in the American civil war, and he changed his name from Butler to Hickock after a run in with the law. I have an idea, to confirm this, why not write to the Clonmel Nationalist or the Tipperary Star? The would give you an absolute confirmation or a negative as appropriate.
Extremely bias & inaccurate video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15. She went to Melbourne for a 'holiday' (abortion) & at 35, committed suicide due to the trauma.
Mike Oz. I have corrected your fictitious statements before. Are you that thick you cannot learn? the police in Victoria were 82% Irish and most were decent family men with many children who were well respected in their small communities as they kept them safe for the Kelly scourge. The Royal Commission of 1881 into Victoria police found the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminal enterprise of Ned Kelly. As a result of the Royal Commission, NO superintendents were sacked. Supt Hare and Nicolson were both promoted to be Police Magistrates. No other officers were demoted, sacked, or forcefully retired. The RC also found NO corruption. Ask Mike to present evidence of corruption, and he goes to water, as he is just making it up. Kate Kelly was NOT raped by police. She made up that fiction some 10 months after Fitzpatrick went to the Kelly home to arrest Dan Kelly for horse stealing. After Ned Kelly was captured, he stated that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister. Mike Oz is a liar through and through and a fiction promoter. He disgraces himself with his rubbish.
NOT TRUE. That document was part of a report written in 2007 for the Police Integrity Commission (now defunct), by a Kelly fan, and it was NOT TRUE in any sense. It appeared in a report that was on the Victorian IBAC site, and I had it removed from the IBAC website because I proved to IBAC it was made up rubbish. In that RC the word 'corrupt' is not mentioned anywhere in any questions, answers or recommendations. No corruption was found with the police in NE Victoria. The RC stated that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's, and they were NOT harassed. As far as the report goes, let me inform you. The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations. 1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect. 2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates. 3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position. 4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position. 5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later. 6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Name the Superintendents that were sacked? Watch this, folks. This clown makes false allegations, full well knowing they are false. He cannot name the superintendents, as none were sacked. He is a liar through and through.
The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations. 1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect. 2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates. 3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position. 4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position. 5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later. 6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a lazy frustrated South Australian cop with thirty years If he gives you a hard time i would reccomend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to
Folks there is a character called Mike Oz, who uses numerous fictitious names, and claims that many police were sacked as a result of the Royal Commission. Only 3 junior police were sacked. Mike Oz, consistently claims that 2 superintendents were sacked. None were sacked. I have asked him to name the superintendents who were sacked, and there is never an answer. Why not? Because they were not sacked. Mike Oz has no idea who I am, and just makes up nonsense to degrade people who tell the truth about Ned Kelly.
@Runaway Puppet One of the findings of the Royal Commission into the Kelly Outbreak which was held in 1881. "There can be little doubt that Constable Fitzpatrick\’s conduct, however justified by the rules of the service, was unfortunate in its results. It may also be mentioned that the charge of persecution of the Kelly family by the members of the police force has been frequently urged in extenuation of the crimes of the outlaws; but, after careful examination, your Commissioners have arrived at the conclusion that the police, in their dealings with the Kellys and their relations, were simply desirous of discharging their duty conscientiously; and that no evidence has been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police." You need to keep up Puppet.
A wild colonial boy was ned Kelly 1865 to 1880 were his growing years he was born around 1855 there's a lot of stories about him living in those times of Vic
Not to be confused with "The Wild Colonial Boy" Jack Duggan or Jack Donahue (His real name is still disputed) another Bushranger operating in Victoria before the Kelly gang. He died in a shoot-out with the Victorian police
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 Well documented Mike. There are some noteable parallels to what happened with the 1891 Shearer's strike in Qld. "The men that owned the acres" were the instigators against the shearers who wanted certain conditions for their labourous work. The land owners had a "force" working with them.
@@flamingfrancis Yes, & the corrupt cops shot at them like wild dingo's in the strike of 1894 also. Most cops have & always will be corrupt to some degree. Mindless thugs who 'only follow orders' as was the excuse in the Nazi Nuremberg trials.
@@samsabastian5560 I'm sure you know absolutely nothing about him and his story....he's a hero here in Ireland 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 anyone who fought against 800 years of murder genocide an slavery deserves a mention.
@@robobrien8951 Ned Kelly did nothing you claimed he did. He always claimed to be Australian, not Irish. All Kelly fought against was the government and police, who were properly trying to bring his criminal enterprise to an end. Two of the early premiers in Victoria were IRISH. 82% of the Police Force were IRISH. Kelly murdered three police officers. All were IRISH. Kelly was just a filthy murderous criminal of the worst order. Your knowledge of this creep, is abysmal.
@@robobrien8951 I am very conversant with the Ned Kelly story. Hero's, do not murder 3 Irish Police. They do not rob banks. They do not hold hostages at gunpoint, including women and children at gunpoint, and threaten them with death if they disobey. They do not rob poor settlers of their only horses, effectively sending them bankrupt. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I wonder the same about my fellow Americans whom supported Bonnie and Clyde, and the dumpster, who's finally facing justice. My name is Bicycle Bob and I approved this message.
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a lazy frustrated South Australian cop with thirty years If he gives you a hard time i would reccomend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to SAPOLIIS@police.sa.gov.au
@@geoffbell166 Perhaps driven to remove the myths, lies and fiction, yes. The children of this nation should be taught the truth about a very serious criminal. I have been active in having a great deal of the myths that Ian Jones wrote removed from several government websites. At least 12 have already removed, or are removing Kelly garbage, written by Kelly fans, that presents a very false picture of a very serious criminal.
@9:37 - fatally killed? If you kill someone, I would hope that would be fatal. @10:35 - stand trial on the 19th October 1889 but was hanged but @10:58 executed 3rd November 1`880?
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 You don't learn, do you, Mike? The Royal Commission recommended some police be retired, admonished, reduced in rank or dismissed. The Victorian government rejected almost all their recommendations. You claim Supt Hare and Nicolson were sacked. WRONG. They were re-instated and both made Police Magistrates. No police were reduced in rank. Total and complete BS. The attempted murder charge of Constable Fitzpatrick was NOT found to be false. Ned Kelly even admitted to shooting him after his capture. You are claiming the police were notorious for corruption. Yet the RC found NO corruption in NE Victoria in the police there. Fitzpatrick was dismissed from the police force without being given a reason. He asked for a fair hearing, but that was denied. His treatment was an injustice. By 1869 almost all the squatters had been removed from the Greta, Moyhu, Benalla area. Kelly's thieving was mostly from poor settlers, taking their only work horses, leaving them to fact bankruptcy. Kate Kelly made up the false allegation that Constable Fitzpatrick approached her improperly, but even Ned Kelly and William Williamson, who were both there, confirmed that it never happened. You claim the RC looked at police corruption. NO THEY DID NOT. In the entire RC the word corrupt is not mentioned. No corruption was found. You are again lying. You, Mike, are a liar and a disgrace for promoting what you know is fictitious rubbish. You, need to get a life.
Ned Kelly was a revolutionary , he wanted vic to become a Republic , this was bought on by the massacre at the ureka stockade 1854 , and many people in the community where he lived were sympathisers , this is why the traps were allways around , to this day the cfmeu flies the southern Cross 🇲🇶
Your understanding of Ned Kelly is pathetic. He was a very serious murdering criminal of the worst kind. Your comments follow fictitious rubbish written by pro Kelly fans, without a scrap of truth anywhere.
he is the symbol of australian independence.....like wallace in scotland and so many who faced down the crown their legends live on....as for their executers they are despised forever...
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 Mike Oz. I have corrected your fictitious statements before. Are you that thick you cannot learn? the police in Victoria were 82% Irish and most were decent family men with many children who were well respected in their small communities as they kept them safe for the Kelly scourge. The Royal Commission of 1881 into Victoria police found the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminal enterprise of Ned Kelly. As a result of the Royal Commission, NO superintendents were sacked. Supt Hare and Nicolson were both promoted to be Police Magistrates. No other officers were demoted, sacked, or forcefully retired. The RC also found NO corruption. Ask Mike to present evidence of corruption, and he goes to water, as he is just making it up. Kate Kelly was NOT raped by police. She made up that fiction some 10 months after Fitzpatrick went to the Kelly home to arrest Dan Kelly for horse stealing. After Ned Kelly was captured, he stated that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister. Mike Oz is a liar through and through and a fiction promoter. He disgraces himself with his rubbish.
@@mikeoz4803 NOT TRUE. That document was part of a report written in 2007 for the Police Integrity Commission (now defunct), by a Kelly fan, and it was NOT TRUE in any sense. It appeared in a report that was on the Victorian IBAC site, and I had it removed from the IBAC website because I proved to IBAC it was made up rubbish. In that RC the word 'corrupt' is not mentioned anywhere in any questions, answers or recommendations. No corruption was found with the police in NE Victoria. The RC stated that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's, and they were NOT harassed. As far as the report goes, let me inform you. The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations. 1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect. 2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates. 3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position. 4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position. 5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later. 6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Justified on the grounds the cops had bragged all over the towns they would hunt down & kill the Kelly's given the chance, They went out in the bush armed to the teeth with the latest weapons knowing the Kelly's only had 1 rifle that shot around tree's. It was self defence & the record proves it.
@@samsabastian5560 LOL totally deranged Williams aka Sabastian - Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a frustrated South Australian Police Sargeant & his boyfriend Lapalad. If he gives you a hard time i would recommend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to SAPOLIIS@police.sa.gov.au Ned Kelly called out Police corruption.....so should we
Some of Ned Kelly's story must have been lost, I think. I don't understand how such a scumbag was admired by so many of his contemporaries. I'm Australian and grew up hearing that he was somehow heroic. It doesn't make sense to me. Thanks for giving so much detail about Kelly and his gang.
If you know the reason for the rebellion at Ballarat, and the corruption and evils of the Crown authorities and enforcers of the time, then you would realise how hated they were and why the likes of Ned Kelly were hero worshipped. This was a common thing in past times, with the likes of Dick Turpin in England and the American outlaws hero worshipped.
His beef was with the cops and government. He never harmed anyone else. When he robbed banks, he'd burn all the mortgages, essentially freeing all the townsfolk from debt. And then chuck a huge piss up at the pub to celebrate. They weren't exactly hostages. :)
He didn't really start out any better or worse than the people around him. With both his father and uncle being horse thieves it was only natural that he turned down that unfortunate road as well. He didn't really do anything that outrageous until the authorities cornered him as it were. And it should also be noted that the police was notoriously corrupt and brutal and that it is even believed that Fitzpatrick might have been involved in the horse thefts that he was supposed to arrest Dan Kelly for. The Kelly's told a very different story about what happened that night - Ned even claiming he wasn't even home until well after the incident - and at Stringy bark creek and, sure they certainly wouldn't make the most impartial and trustworthy witnesses but neither would the police, especially with how big and controversial the case had gotten when it finally came to court. There was also this idea floating around that the gangs activities would weaken or embarrass the authorities to the point where it would lead to open revolt and the installation of a new democratic rule. That, together with the fact that he burned all mortgages he found during his (two) robberies and used at least part of the money he took to help the friends and neighbours who were being persecuted simply for being connected to him, is why many people see him as very much of a Robin Hood figure.
@@Aran_chini As did John Jarret who played Ned Kelly in a 4 part mini series along with other AUSTRALIAN actors of the time Sigrid Thornton, Steve Bisley and a few other good actors were All in it and it was made in about 1980 I really like heath Ledger acting but it's NOT one of his better movie roles
@@stevenguegens9516 I saw that one also. I ‘d like to see a doco or dramatization that also told the story of Kate Kelly. She was a fascinating person who suffered a tragic life. It deserves a telling.
I'm a big Rolling Stones fan, but the Mick Jagger film about Ned Kelly is all but unwatchable. A lot of it isn't Jagger's fault, the direction and editing and parts of the script are terrible.
Shit mate you made a mess of that . Missing important info relating to what happen at the house and there on . research is required don't just wing it . From Australia
Daniel McFarland The Royal Commission found that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's extensive criminality. Your claim that Kate Kelly was 'chatted up' by a police officer is not true in any sense. Where are you getting this fiction from?
No coincidence that much of this happened a few decades after Australia's second only open rebellion against the establishment, the Eureka Stockade in 1854. Most real Aussies know what happened there and how a large group of miners stood up to a police force and government that had tried to capitalise on their hard work by introducing a License tax.. It was known that police and officialdom not only ran the grog shops but also the brothels. The Chinese miners group was treated really badly to the point where their places of worship were burned and ruined with little done by police to come up with answers. So much hatred of a corrupt regime and its foot soldiers festered for the years after and these revolutionists had had a gutfull. The police were lackies for the gentry and it is no wonder that subsequent commissions and investigations found little wrongdoing by them in the Kelly's case. There are other minor cases at this time and it is thought that a larger revolutionary unit was in the making. Clearly there was persecution of the plebs.
Frank B There is no question that corruption was rife in those early years. 1854, when Eureka occurred. Some 20 years later, there was an elected Victorian government, and corrupt police were removed and replaced with men of calibre. Mostly direct from Ireland, and they were not corrupt.
Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
@@samsabastian5560 Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
Speaking as an Australian, I would like to point out here that Ned Kelly was born by Irish parents. In Australia, the Irish were heavily mistreated by the Police and government of the time. Also, his father was a free Irish convict who secured his freedom and many convict families were mistreated heavily by authority back in the day. So, there were many shortcomings that led Ned to choosing his lawless career as a bushranger. Good video man.
rowbo88 RUBBISH COMMENT. 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH. Kelly was not mistreated by the police or the government, as the 1881 Royal commission established. If you claim that was the position, present your evidence.
Ned was martyred. it wasn't just the Irish they targeted. The cops cuffed Aboriginals then cut their penis off, laughing as they ran around screaming before slowly decapitating them alive. Women were raped and or stabbed in the vagina with sabers or anything they could muster, Elders incinerated alive, children beaten, raped and kidnapped into harems of prostitution run by police, cops competing with each other who could kick the babies heads the furthest. The psychopathy so repugnant it became an honor for them to historically record their actions, Pedo headhunting cops, These maggots ruined Australian history, now their pupae govern and police us off the wealth they generated. That's what's wrong with Australia, police psychopathy!
i seem to remember he killrd police.
You frought for freedom government police fuck him and his family no you Ned Kelly you are king
@The_Jaguar_ Knight problem is Kelly could neither read nor write. Someone else wrote the letter.
What many do not know is that Ned and his gang consisted of far more than just the 4 of them. Many locals were ready for when the train derailed and the police were ambushed and killed or taken prisoner. The plan was to then march en masse to Melbourne to sieze government and start a revolution against British rule. The situation with the Irish miners and other impoverished people was such, that the plan very nearly succeeded. Also, Neds father, Red Kelly was involved in the uprising at the Eureka Stockade in Ballarat against the miners right fees, so it could be quite rightly said that the Kelly family were revolutionaries. This is more than likely the reason the family was targeted by the police from the get go. The FACT that so many signed a petition for clemency for Ned shows that revolution was indeed simmering just beneath the surface of 1870-80's Australia. One can only wonder what Australia would be like now had they succeeded. THIS is the reason Ned and his companions are considered heroes by many freedom loving Australians up to this day. SUCH IS LIFE. R.I.P Ned
luke S What a load of tripe you have written. Nothing you have stated is true.
The Kelly gang consisted of 4 men. Ned Kelly, Dan Kelly, Steve, Hart and Joe Byrne.
There were no locals at Glenrowan waiting for the train to be derailed. Made up fiction by pro Kelly authors.
Ned Kelly intended to murder all the police and civilians on the train, when ride to Benalla and rob the banks and blow up the police station. Nothing to do with Melbourne at all.
Red Kelly had nothing to do with the Eureka Stockade.
The suggestion that Ned Kelly intended to proclaim a republic was made up by Ian Jones, a pro Kelly author. It was total rubbish and was not true.
The petition has about 3-4,000 genuine signatures on it, not 30,000 as claimed. It is still in possession of Records, Victoria.
You are talking made up rubbish, luke, and the sooner you wake up to the fact that you know nothing about Ned Kelly the better off we will all be.
@@samsabastian5560 Believe what you like. I will do likewise, however, I wont degrade myself by lowering myself to childish insults and assertions of superior " intellect", if you can call it that. It is a well known FACT there were many, many kelly sympathisers. I suggest you re read your history. Red Kelly was associated with the ballarat miners and rebellion. I suppose the chinstrap worn under the nose was a " made up" fiction too eh???
My great great great grand father was also there with Red & his surname was Donney. His son’s opened the fist foundry in NSW at marrickville AP Donney & Sons and were the first to bring taps as we know them know into Australia which was disputed latter in life with the other party backing down on court day. I still have a brass lamp their made in 1923 for the US first fleet to visit Australia. The government asked them to make them only 10 were made and given to high ranking officials and one to stay in the family. It no longer has a power lead or light fitting as some stupid family member tried turning it into something else
Revolutionaries? You spelt Fenian cop killers wrong
@@gloryglory5688 better a fenian than loyalist any bloody day. Even in Australia, we remember. The tricolour will fly over a UNITED ireland one day very soon. Look at the U.K now, the last piece of glue holding it together is now dead.
The gallows still stand. I went there a few years ago it's quite impressive. Not sure about now but most of the Kelly gangs armour and weaponry were on display along with his death mask.
Ned Kelly will be remembered for all of time in Australia as a hero and a legend.
@@johnnichol9412correct
@@johnnichol9412 Sad sack... Woke a-h.
@@adriandevil7232 Woke a-h.
@@johnnichol9412 incorrect, he was found guilty of only one murder - Lonigan
heroes do not murder, rob banks, thieve, and take hostages.
"Game as Ned", or "Game as Kelly" is still used today as a term for actions that would be considered valiant but of no consequence to the outcome of a situation...
Ned Kelly was only game when he had a gun in hand and was threatening old men, women and children.
@@samsabastian5560 Oh yeah, he was a thug, no question..
When Ned Kelly was captured at Glenrowan he squealed like stuck pig. He was a coward.
As an Aussie, I know the traps-police tormented his his family. A drunken cop came to the Kelly homestead using the excuse of looking for brothers Dan & Mrs Kelly, the drunken cop made advances towards the young sister of the Kelly brothers, Ned's mum Ellen whacked the copper over the head. . . .the drunken cop returned to town and made false charges and Ellen Kelly was imprisoned.
Eventually Ned was hung and his mother was in the same prison.They buried Ned in an unmarked grave but have since found his grave.
Aaron Paterson What you have written is fictitious nonsense. The police treated the Kelly family as they should, as the Royal commission held in 1881 found.
Constable Fitzpatrick was not drunk as you claim, and he made no approach to Kate Kelly. You need to research properly and stop reading the myths.
@@samsabastian5560 I think you have only written your reply based on the police officers reports. If what I've written doesn't jibe with your version, then you have not researched as much of the historical accounts gleaned from various accounts by many of the people who kept their mouths shut AT THE TIME for fear of being jailed like Ned's mother. Merry Christmas to you 🎄
@@aaronpaterson1615 The Royal Commission said the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's. The owner of the Winton hotel said in evidence that Fitzpatrick had one brandy and lemonade only. After Ned Kelly was captured, he confirmed that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister. William Williamson who was there confirmed Fitzpatrick's story. What other evidence do you need, to realise your comment is a load of fictitious rubbish?
@@samsabastian5560pretty standard answer “the Royal Commission said the police acted properly “ and that’s to be believed?
@@HLsab YES, seeing all the Commissioners appointed were anti-police. They went after the police, yet found they behaved properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of the Kelly's. Here is what they wrote in their report.
"It may also be mentioned that the charge of persecution of the family by the members of the police force has been frequently urged in extenuation of the crimes of the outlaws; but, after careful examination, your Commissioners have arrived at the conclusion that the police, in their dealings with the Kelly's and their relations, were simply desirous of discharging their duty conscientiously; and that no evidence has been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police."
Your knowledge is somewhat lacking as to the facts Luke.
With all due respect, I must say that as a lifelong student of Kelly gang history, you have pretty much got the story correct in a nutshell, except for some minor indescrepancies. Good to see the story of Kelly still being shared for those who are keen history buffs. 👍
with all due respect that's garbage..there are two witness accounts of the shootings at Strinybark Creek..the surviving officers..and the account given in the Jerilderee letter..many experts believe had it been admitted to evidence the verdict may have been a different one
Kelly seems to me to be the Trump of Australia.
@@anthonycudahy7207 what rubbish are you saying
@@360nastybusiness I was just reminding the readers of America's contemporary criminal (DJT).
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
I was born & lived 10 minutes from Melbourne, and seen his armour & death mask in Old Melbourne Goal. He had reasons for his actions. The Irish were treated horribly by banks and police. You missed the assault of his sister by a constable which was the catalyst, and that his mother and sister were later unjustly imprisoned to force Ned to surrender. Also the gangs removal of train rails leading to Glenrowan, which if successful would of killed dozens of police who wanted the gang dead.
The Story of The Kelly Gang; Australia's first moving picture, Ned's mother was invited to attend the premier and declined.
Images of Kelly and the Kelly Gang seen in armour were police recreations after their deaths. Or from the above 1906 film.
For many years, the skull of Ned Kelly was used a paperweight on the Wardens desk at Old Melbourne Goal, his armour, guns, skull and body was stolen, lost and partially returned. His mother was subject to cruel torment by the Law during life and after death.
Ned was admired by the people of Australia because he fought for rights of people unjustly treated by those in power or authority who absconded Justice. Many of Kellys robberies included bank mortgages of immigrants, that he then burnt. The 1800s banks and police of Australia were viewed as criminals by the immigrant community, Ned was fighting justice in the form of revenge against whom most viewed as above the law.
Dumb comment through and through. Nothing you have stated is true.
Two of the early premiers in Victoria were IRISH. 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH. Kelly murdered 3 police at Stringybark Creek. They were all IRISH.
Ned Kelly and his family were LOATHED by the people living in the Greta area. Poor settlers kept their meagre savings in the two banks that Ned Kelly robbed. Some of the documents he burnt were title deeds that destroyed the rightful poor settlers being able to prove they owned their property.
The police were well respected in NE Victoria, as the Royal Commission found.
Your comments are a load of fictitious nonsense. You have no idea.
@@samsabastian5560 no fucking idea I see now
@@samsabastian5560 Aye...true...Ireland had it's own English suck ups too.
@@samsabastian5560 I think he was referring to the bog Irish?
@@Damnedlegion40k NO, it is YOU that has no idea, Damned. You have been fed on fiction, and you are not bright enough to work out that you have been conned.
Very well man, I learned much and enjoyed the right photos, love your Australia English as well (was this p. c. I wonder..), need sometimes subtitles. :~) and is there a real and maybe a more reliable film /movie around besides the Jagger thing? God's Blessing from Northern Germany!
"Wrap me up in my stock-whip and blanket, and bury me deep down below. Where the dingoes and crows won't molest me, in the shade where the Coolabah grows" -
That has the same sentiment and nearly the same cadence as "Fiddler's Green".
"Wrap me up in my oilskin and jumper.
No more on the docks I'll be seen.
Tell all my shipmates,
I'm going on a trip mate.
And I'll see them all in Fidder's Green."
@@johnnichol9412
It's from an unknown author and written in the 1860's.
Thank you from Australia
Love from Australia 🇦🇺
Police back in those days wasn't nice neither
Caz Kelly Most of the police in NE Victoria were well respected family men, who kept their towns free from the Kelly scourge. Your comment is not true in any sense.
Still not,but it's a bit harder to get away with murder,like they did in the 70s/80s and 90s,they rat each other out now,like Instagram Nike bikies,Ned knew how to deal with informers...
@@samsabastian5560 Yeah right
They still are here as well..🇦🇺
@@samsabastian5560 your full of s$@t mate. I bet your in love with Dan Andrews too
Pigs were corrupt then
Still are now
Many were sacked. Reprimanded erc etc
Then
And still happening now
You should just marry Dan and get it over with missy
He definitely had that Irish look about him. Fergal Sharkey springs to mind.
The little theif had a good heart 🤭
I new Fergal sharkey back in Derry let me tell you he’s no Ned Kelly he does look like he
@@coolmuthapea Get the butchers apron off you flag , then you can walk like men.
👍🤣😂
A bearded Ned reminds me more of Roy Keane
The first image shown in the armour isn't Ned, it's one of the police posse after the shoot out at Glenrowen.
Hey brother , the first image is act of police man ? For show/drama or what???
THANK GOD YOU WERE THERE IF NOT WE WOULD OF NEVER KNOWN THIS.
@@yecyec3927 Its common knowledge, and caps lock numb nuts.
@@Anmouss Yeah it was a cop or even just a local, they took pics of all the armour for police evidence or whatever reason.I think it is Ned's armour but it's not Ned, he's within the area that this photo was taken, but he isn't quite able to stand at this point.
Hang on a minute mate. He didn’t murder 3 coppers Those coppers went into the bush to shoot and kill Ned and he’s boys. So all he did was defend himself and he’s boys And as for Fitzpatrick do you think that a crack shot like Ned would fire a couple of shots and miss him. Come on give me a break Read Frank Clunes magnificent book written in 1954 called the Kelly Hunters Only book with true history
That was an excellent episode. Much love from Australia.
Found Ned Kelly's story interesting, so i ended up doing a historical deep dive, but what I also found was so disturbing, it completely ruins Australian history, a police action so repugnant, it will scar your mind forever. Police enjoyed hunting children for sex and profit, really evil cops whom murdered/decapitated parents by the thousands, their children kidnapped and raped into large harems of children prostitution, the immense wealth and power generated intergenerational, so their kin continue to police and or govern us today, all historically documented Australian history.
Whole families, clans, tribes, races wiped out, decapitated by police, the headless sun bleached bones of which can still be found today in remote locations. Ned met the same fate, decapitated, his skull a trophy on a cops desk, martyred by police.
Total fiction. Go see a psychiatrist.
@@samsabastian5560 It's all historically documented! Are you illiterate? Or is it cognitive dissonant plausible deniability?
Ask the UN if historically documented Australian history isn't enough proof for you lol, because it was they whom finally put a stop to Queensland police hunting Aboriginals for sport, pleasure and profit it in 1972. It get's worse, Queensland police were so belligerent the UN was forced to threatened military intervention to stop them. Totally repugnant, sick to the stomach.
Yeah nah. You're talking out your arse.
The governments are so evil... Ned was so brave to stand up to them!
@@MissMarquise Brave statement. So tell us that the Victorian government was doing that was evil?
Mick Jagger stars in a completely and totally unwatchable 1970 movie version of Ned Kelly's life.
No wonder with this cast^^
A very young John Jarret from wolf creek stars as Ned Kelly in a 4 part movie from about 1980 and it's brilliant laden with good AUSTRALIAN acting talent Sigrid Thornton, Steve Bisley and a few other good one's as WELL
@@stevenguegens9516 You are talking about "The Last Outlaw", which was a load of fictitious rubbish. Nothing factual presented in that garbage at all.
@@samsabastian5560 Dang!
Brother, You called that right!
One of the most iconic Real Life Anti-Hero of All time.
Amen to that brother
The New Ongoam24 Ned Kelly was a low life, vicious stand-over-thug and a murderer.
Only in the minds of ignorant fools.
Several serious mistakes. It was Kelly who was camped at Stringy Bark Creek, not the police. The police rode in shooting and Kelly stood up and called on them to Surrender. In 1980 the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Victoria stated Kelly should have been convicted of Manslaughter not, murder. Reason, Police had gone out as private citizens in plain clothes to collect the rewards, not as policemen, stating that they were going to bring the gang back dead. Also, the Chief Justice said the Judge Sir Redman Berry did not give him a fair trial. I also understand that the doctor stated that Fitzpatricks wound was from a metal object not a gunshot. Kelly commented that if he wanted to shoot the bastard he would not have missed at 3 feet. On the occasion Kelly was working as a timber cutter and arrived home to Find his mother trying to stop Fitzpatrick assaulting her daughter. After the event numerous police were sacked, including an Inspector Stanish who shot civilians escaping from the hotel at Glenrowan. All police from Greta were removed, and a new unbiased Sergeant was installed who over a few years resolved the conflict between the settlers and the squatters. Other than the policeman Kelly did not shoot any others. Kelly was a criminal, but he was also a product of the time where there was continual conflict between the police and squatters and the common people. Certainly NOT an excellent episode>
Nothing you have stated is correct. Where are you finding this fictitious rot. Let me put you straight.
1. It was the police party of 4 that were camped at Stringybark Creek. Ned Kelly ambushed them and shot Lonigan as soon as he moved, killing him instantly.
2. The Chief Justice relied on the fiction written by Ian Jones to make that comment. He was badly misinformed.
3. All police in those days wore plain clothes. That was normal.
4. They had two sets of handcuffs with them to secure the prisoners. The reward was only £100.
5. The doctor that examined Fitzpatrick's wound, said it was probably a bullet wound. Your comment is not true.
6. Kate Kelly was never touched by Fitzpatrick. She made up that fiction 10 months after the event to discredit the officer. Again, you are talking nonsense.
7. The only police that were sacked were the 3 police who were in Sherritts hut. No such person as Stanish. You probably mean Chief Commissioner Standish. He was not sacked, as he had retired 6 months before the Royal Commission even started.
8. There was only one incident where Sgt Steele shot at one of the hostages, believing him to be one of the gang members trying to escape. No other police shot at any hostages.
9. No police were removed from Greta, but a new constable was appointed to work at Greta.
10. The so called war between the squatters and the settlers, was settled in the settler's favour by 1869. Well before the Kelly era of criminality. You have no idea.
11. Ned Kelly shot a civilian in the eye at Glenrowan. George Metcalf was shot in the eye accidentally, but Kelly refused him medical attention, and he died 2 months later.
What you have stated is a load of garbage, with not one fact correct.
Neddles was even a Nancy Boy I do believe
@@stevenguegens9516 Nancy Boy , bloody Hell m8 , you want to come up to Sydney , the Fucken place is riddled with them ! Metro $€×uals , Homo , Dress wearer's , Bearded Hipster ( mostly in love with themselves ) and even grown men on eclectic scooters . About a third of males walking around the city are Men , the other two thirds fall in to subcategories .
@@johnniethepom7545 I want to buy an eclectic scooter.They sound good.
You may want to read about Stringybark Creek again .
In Australia ,Ned was a bushranger,that's what we say here,we don't use the term outlaw.
Ian Balogh Australians DO use the term 'outlaw.'
We visited Glenrowan this year and seen where Ned was captured and the Inn and I felt sadness when we were there, I don’t see him as a villain cops were brutal back in those days. Love your channel, love from Australia 🇦🇺
Ash Clarke You have got that very wrong, Ash. The Royal Commission into Victoria police in 1881 established that the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of Ned Kelly. Bear in mind that 82% of the police in Victoria at that time were IRISH. He also murdered three IRISH police officers.
@@samsabastian5560 Nope, cops were actually paid by the wealthy landowners so they were extremely prejudice. Shame on you for trusting anything the government 'investigate'. Look at Dan Andrews, it's still going on today!
Been there many times. Still have family living in the area. Lovely part of the country.
@@samsabastian5560 well, if a government entity makes a claim, it must be the absolute and indisputable truth.
@@justlucky8254 If you knew what you were talking about, you might not make such a silly comment in future.
The Royal Commissioners were all anti-police, and they went after the police. BUT they found the police in NE Victoria acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's.
The government mostly rejected the recommendations of the RC. Look a bit deeper next time, as you are way off track with your comment.
Sounds like the authorities where corrupt.
No they were not.
still are
@@geoffbell166 I agree there is some corruption, but the police that dealt with Ned Kelly in the 1870's, were mostly decent family men who kept their towns free of the Kelly scourge.
The Royal Commission found that those police were not corrupt.
@@samsabastian5560 Just out of interest, because my books are packed up, how many police officers were dismissed after thr Royal Commission?
I think they always are
Ned Kelly was the staunchest Australian, facing the gallows his mother said "Just remember Ned your a Kelly
Not true.
@@samsabastian5560 Prove it.
@@allen480 Ned Kelly was only bold when he had a weapon in hand and was threatening women and children with death if they did not obey him.
@@samsabastian5560 When Ned was fifteen the most vicious thug Copper named Hall tried to shoot him,and over a horse never stole.Ned gave him what for as the Pig screamed for his life. Never bold without a gun you say ? You lose again brolio
@@DeadKennedys-eo1oo Ned Kelly knew the horse was stolen, and he discussed that with many people, and one gave evidence against him. A jury of 12 men convicted him.
Again this clows is telling you lies.
Instant sub!
Ned was and still is a national hero.
Not really. Just another thug who got his just desserts
@@timjohnun4297 You clearly know nothing about Ned if that's the conclusion you've come to.
@@MisterSandmanAU Tim is 100% with his comment. It is YOU who know nothing about this vicious low life murdering, thieving, bank robbing scumbag.
@@MisterSandmanAU The reality is that YOU know nothing about Ned Kelly, with your claim. You have been reading fiction and are silly enough to believe it.
You are way off track with the criminality of Ned Kelly.
@@nedkellymyths5173 Ned Kelly was a victim of abuse against the Irish by the corrupt police force of the time. He did what he did because of the way he was treated.
He destroyed debts and is lauded as a hero.
His only crime was being born a way that others didn't like.
If you wanna talk about criminals, then why don't you mention Constable Fitzpatrick, hm?
I plan to head to Perth next year and plan to see Australia for 3 weeks. Are there any monuments for Ned Kelly that are available to see?
Glenrowan in Victoria is a good starting place.
Beechworth Victoria, the cell he was kept in before sent to old Melbourne Gaol.
Melbourne Library, I believe has the actual metal helmet he wore, a replica is shown in the Melbourne jail…..very interesting places…harsh times…
Try Beechworth, where he was initially tried. Glenrowan (where he had his final showdown with troopers) - it is a bit tacky but still interesting. Old Melbourne gaol, where he was hanged is fascinating. His armour and rifle are displayed at the Victorian State Library.
Any monuments for his victims?
Ned Kelly was not born at Beveridge. His family moved there when Ned was four or five years old. He was likely born at Wallan East.
Made a visit to the jail, entered the cell where he was last kept before the hanging. Trap door and release handle situated just outside on a landing with a large timber beam above,gruesome to say the least.
You can also see his pistols on display. One has a distinct dent in it from a police bullet during the glenrowan battle.
It is very harrowing indeed…and all those death masks…..really interesting place to visit, I felt sadness for the brutality of what happened to the innocents, however, I still think it wrong in my opinion to end a persons life…..yes they did wrong, but maybe in modern eyes and understanding of today, I feel conflicted, of course back then, it was probably not even considered the harsh sentences handed out….I visited Port Arthur in Tassie, my god it’s horrifying to see how folks who were there, were treated lower than animals….harsh times indeed..
It's a scary place.He was in Pentridge from 15 years old to 19.I can't imagine going to that place as a teen even twenty years ago let alone 1800's.He was moulded by Pentridge, as they say once you enter Pentridge you never really leave.He was even buried there as a final insult to the man.
@@MrOx85 Why did Ned Kelly end up in Pentridge gaol? Because he was a thief. If he was not a thief, he would not have been there. He was there because of his criminal behaviour.
He was friends with my Grandmother’s Grandparents. They owned a horse ranch in El Dorado in Victoria.
They used to swap their horses for fresh ones whilst on the run.
For some kiwis he's considered family, old cousin Ned was a dodgy bastard with a good heart.
Damned Legion You would have to be a Kiwi to make such an ignorant statement.
@@samsabastian5560 ignorance is bliss
@@Damnedlegion40k Well you certainly have no idea of the criminality of Ned Kelly, do you?
@@samsabastian5560 ask yourself why he became a folk hero or are you more ignorant than I, you're probably American, lol.
@@samsabastian5560 Good on him,had some balls and hard as a a coffin nail...needs to happen to the current corrupt Victorian and NSW police...
Convicted in 1889, sentenced in 1880?
@Runaway Puppet Sir Redmond Barry was an outstanding Australian. He did a huge amount to build the colony of Victoria. On the other hand, Ned Kelly was hell-bent on destroying the fledgling colony.
@Runaway Puppet Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
As an Australian Ned Kelly was an Australian hero
@Runaway Puppet John Nichol is correct. Ned Kelly was just a filthy murdering scumbag, who has been falsely lauded by pro Kelly authors.
He was no hero, as the facts disclose.
Bernard Chambers Only in the minds of ignorant fools.
@@runawaypuppet1694 WHY? HE is correct. Ned Kelly was a vicious, murdering criminal.
@@runawaypuppet1694 Tell that to the children left fatherless and the pregnant widow
Bernard Chambers Ned Kelly was only a hero to the ignorant, illiterate and uninformed. Is that where you fit?
Good morning, and Thank You for your ALWAYS Excellent, Informative, and Well Done videos! I'm speaking about all of your channels. I started with The Untold Past.
Except this video is not true.
@@samsabastian5560 Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
He looks nothing like Mick Jagger
The account you gave is somewhat accurate and as such i applaud your effort in creating a fine video. For those few unaware of this infamous outlaw(bushranger) it would be an eye opening educational experience.I may have given a wrong impression saying "somewhat" but since some aspects of young Ned Kelly"s life could not entirely be proven ie accounts from the police against his version we just cant say (being fair to both versions of incidents)we can assume things and hope our version is correct.eg Ned Kelly had Irish heritage ,born in Australia and as such considered himself AUSTRALIAN ,AND WANTED TO CREATE A BETTER AUSTRALIA INDEPENDANT OF GB.HIS ACCENT MOST LIKELY AUSTRALIAN WITH A HINT OF IRISH.GAINED FROM HIS PARENTS AND OTHER SETTLERS.In 1970 i met an actor from the ned kelly movie of that year .He was the black tracker a friend of my fathers work colege a white russian immigrant.I was in juniour high .I have some other history might be interesting.My fathers arnt in prospect had been an aquintance of a bush ranger ,i believe lightening jack .she was an expert horse woman meet him on a property up north on one of her rides.
All Ned Kelly wanted was for the police to leave him alone, so he could carry on his extensive criminal empire. You are talking a load of fictitious rubbish.
@@bradwilliams7212 yes after the victorian state refused him and others all avenues to survive ie eat.And today we have the same people not willing to oppose the establishment even in a peaceful way they are still persecuted.
@@aerotuc That is a silly, uninformed comment. The government of Victoria enacted The Lands Act in 1860, to remove squatters and grant land to poor settlers on excellent terms. The legislation was flawed, but by 1869 the settlers had won the day. Many took up the land and 80% of them made a go of it. The Kelly family had the same opportunity, and Ellen Kelly WAS granted an 88acre property. She never worked that land, and encouraged her sons to turn to criminal activities.
Tell us, why did most of the settlers succeed, while Ned Kelly turned to crime. You have no idea what you are talking about. I will be interested to read your reply.
@@aerotuc Where is your answer? You don't have one, do you? You are talking a load of fictitious nonsense.
@@bradwilliams7212 empire ,a band of 4 or so ,and they had enough ,vertually gave up .Ned told his supportes at the" ok coral"to go home ,dont fight .id forgot this its not bothering me ,are you irish.what answer what did you ask?(oh dont ask about ok coral")
Knowing Australia was the place where england sent their undesirable troublemakers. I can see they also held their noses high when dealing with them in country. The irish had a hard time of it in the USA back then to.
John Johnson Victoria did not take prisoners from England.
@@samsabastian5560 and muds just wet dirt.Plenty of them moved on to Victoria after their sentences were finished including Neds families and........those who ended up becoming Coppers.
nice work but needs more detail
He had no choice but to fight back the treatment he & his family were given by the police was terrible 😡
andrew mcdowall If you claim the Kelly's were treated badly by the police, present your evidence. The Royal Commission, held in 1881, found that the police acted properly in their dealings with the Kelly's. So let's see some evidence?
Still waiting for you to present your evidence, Andrew. You won't come back, because your statement is fictitious rubbish.
There is not a shred of evidence anywhere that the Kelly family were badly treated by the police. 82% of the police were Irish.
You are repeating myths. Show us your evidence of the supposed bad treatment by the police? You will not come back, as you have no evidence to support your fictitious statement.
andrew mcdowall If you claim that was the position, show us the facts that support your comment?
Come on Andrew. Show us what you have got, or apologise for spreading lies.
You want to know about a real bushranger in Australia, who never robbed a needy man or killed a person, yet was gunned down like an animal while he was sleeping?
Ben Hall was his name.
You can have your Ned Kelly.
I can see why he was regarded as a hero
Nats Ski Ned Kelly was no hero. He was a vicious stand-over-thug.
At the time he was captured, he was loathed by the entire population. He was NEVER considered a hero.
Great informative and well researched video. (Minor critique: perhaps change up the rhythm in your reading voice)
Jackjude This video is fictitious rubbish.
Australia's very own William Wallace.
David, William Wallace was a freedom fighter. Ned Kelly was a vicious murdering thief.
Fascinating stuff!
Ned Kelly's aunt (his mother's sister) was Wild Bill Hickock's grandmother. The sisters came from Co. Tipperary, Ireland.
Where in Tipperary? I lived in Clonmel for a while.
Last time I heard this fiction, it was claimed the relative was Buffalo Bill. Not true.
@@djquinn11 I am from Tipperary. I read this in an Irish newspaper, which one now escapes me, as I am getting on a bit now (73) but I'm sure it may have been the Clonmel Nationalist. I do seem to remember they came from the vicinity of Cahir.
I have read that Hickock's true birth name was Butler, which is a common name in Tipperary, so there is a possibility his grandparents may have met up in Tipperary or through mutual friends of Tipperary origin in the USA. The reason he got the name 'wild bill' I believe, was because of he wild escapades while fighting in the American civil war, and he changed his name from Butler to Hickock after a run in with the law.
I have an idea, to confirm this, why not write to the Clonmel Nationalist or the Tipperary Star? The would give you an absolute confirmation or a negative as appropriate.
George MacKay. Played him in a recent film. Its one of the best bits of acting i have ever seen. Incredible!
jim is i Box office dud.
@@samsabastian5560 Many a box office dud goes on to be considered a classic. Bladerunner for example
@@jimisi7424 That film was a disgrace.
@@samsabastian5560 please expand….
@@jimisi7424 Read the reviews on IMDB.
Extremely bias & inaccurate video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15. She went to Melbourne for a 'holiday' (abortion) & at 35, committed suicide due to the trauma.
Mike Oz. I have corrected your fictitious statements before. Are you that thick you cannot learn?
the police in Victoria were 82% Irish and most were decent family men with many children who were well respected in their small communities as they kept them safe for the Kelly scourge. The Royal Commission of 1881 into Victoria police found the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminal enterprise of Ned Kelly.
As a result of the Royal Commission, NO superintendents were sacked. Supt Hare and Nicolson were both promoted to be Police Magistrates.
No other officers were demoted, sacked, or forcefully retired.
The RC also found NO corruption. Ask Mike to present evidence of corruption, and he goes to water, as he is just making it up.
Kate Kelly was NOT raped by police. She made up that fiction some 10 months after Fitzpatrick went to the Kelly home to arrest Dan Kelly for horse stealing.
After Ned Kelly was captured, he stated that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister.
Mike Oz is a liar through and through and a fiction promoter. He disgraces himself with his rubbish.
NOT TRUE. That document was part of a report written in 2007 for the Police Integrity Commission (now defunct), by a Kelly fan, and it was NOT TRUE in any sense. It appeared in a report that was on the Victorian IBAC site, and I had it removed from the IBAC website because I proved to IBAC it was made up rubbish.
In that RC the word 'corrupt' is not mentioned anywhere in any questions, answers or recommendations. No corruption was found with the police in NE Victoria.
The RC stated that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's, and they were NOT harassed.
As far as the report goes, let me inform you. The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations.
1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect.
2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates.
3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position.
4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position.
5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later.
6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Name the Superintendents that were sacked? Watch this, folks. This clown makes false allegations, full well knowing they are false. He cannot name the superintendents, as none were sacked. He is a liar through and through.
LIAR. No police superintendents were sacked. Ask this galoot to name them? He can't, as he is lying.
The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations.
1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect.
2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates.
3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position.
4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position.
5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later.
6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a lazy frustrated South Australian cop with thirty years If he gives you a hard time i would reccomend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to
Folks there is a character called Mike Oz, who uses numerous fictitious names, and claims that many police were sacked as a result of the Royal Commission.
Only 3 junior police were sacked. Mike Oz, consistently claims that 2 superintendents were sacked. None were sacked. I have asked him to name the superintendents who were sacked, and there is never an answer. Why not? Because they were not sacked.
Mike Oz has no idea who I am, and just makes up nonsense to degrade people who tell the truth about Ned Kelly.
He's probably portrayed as a hero for the same reason Jessie James was here. Even though JJ was a thug .
So was Kelly.
So was Ned Kelly, in truth. Just a thief and murderer really.
Latifah You're correct. Ned Kelly was a thug through and through.
@Runaway Puppet One of the findings of the Royal Commission into the Kelly Outbreak which was held in 1881. "There can be little doubt that Constable Fitzpatrick\’s conduct, however justified by the rules of the service, was unfortunate in its results. It may also be mentioned that the charge of persecution of the Kelly family by the members of the police force has been frequently urged in extenuation of the crimes of the outlaws; but, after careful examination, your Commissioners have arrived at the conclusion that the police, in their dealings with the Kellys and their relations, were simply desirous of discharging their duty conscientiously; and that no evidence has been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police." You need to keep up Puppet.
The photo of the person in the armour is a policeman posing after the capture
He was portrayed by Mick Jagger in 1970
Yeah I watched that movie,I remember the song played all the way through the movie (blame it on the Kelly's) lol!! 😄
Ned Kelly was not born at Beveridge. He was four or five when the family moved there. His probable place of birth is Wallan East.
The hangman, Elijah Upjohn, is in my family tree.
Harry powers lookout I visited this weekend .stunning views of the valley
Mark Smith REALLY? I was there last Sunday.
A wild colonial boy was ned Kelly 1865 to 1880 were his growing years he was born around 1855 there's a lot of stories about him living in those times of Vic
Not to be confused with "The Wild Colonial Boy" Jack Duggan or Jack Donahue (His real name is still disputed) another Bushranger operating in Victoria before the Kelly gang. He died in a shoot-out with the Victorian police
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 Not one thing you have stated is true. You are a disgrace to this nation Mike, for making so many false statements.
@@mikeoz4803 Well documented Mike. There are some noteable parallels to what happened with the 1891 Shearer's strike in Qld. "The men that owned the acres" were the instigators against the shearers who wanted certain conditions for their labourous work. The land owners had a "force" working with them.
@@flamingfrancis Yes, & the corrupt cops shot at them like wild dingo's in the strike of 1894 also. Most cops have & always will be corrupt to some degree. Mindless thugs who 'only follow orders' as was the excuse in the Nazi Nuremberg trials.
There's a wonderful movie about Ned Kelly called " Ned Kelly " Heath Ledger plays Kelly and does a great job . Well worth seeing .
GROWLEYMOLD Except the movie was total and complete fiction.
@@samsabastian5560 I disagree . No doubt parts of it were but certainly not all of it . The basic story was still intact .
@@GROWLEYMOLD ALL OF IT. Hopelessly out of touch with the true story of Ned Kelly.
@@samsabastian5560 It hurts you to be wrong my friend but that's okay . Peace .
@@GROWLEYMOLD If you knew the true story of Kelly and not the mythological story, you would find that my comment is spot on.
“Blame it on the Kelly’s “
I watched the Mick Jagger version of Ned Kelly years ago.
We love you Ned always remembered on this side🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Rob , So you love a murderer, hostage taker, bank robber and prolific thief. Get a life.
Rob, are you completely insane?
@@samsabastian5560 I'm sure you know absolutely nothing about him and his story....he's a hero here in Ireland 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 anyone who fought against 800 years of murder genocide an slavery deserves a mention.
@@robobrien8951 Ned Kelly did nothing you claimed he did. He always claimed to be Australian, not Irish. All Kelly fought against was the government and police, who were properly trying to bring his criminal enterprise to an end. Two of the early premiers in Victoria were IRISH. 82% of the Police Force were IRISH. Kelly murdered three police officers. All were IRISH.
Kelly was just a filthy murderous criminal of the worst order. Your knowledge of this creep, is abysmal.
@@robobrien8951 I am very conversant with the Ned Kelly story. Hero's, do not murder 3 Irish Police. They do not rob banks. They do not hold hostages at gunpoint, including women and children at gunpoint, and threaten them with death if they disobey. They do not rob poor settlers of their only horses, effectively sending them bankrupt.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Ned Kelly died without ever doing a run of liquor. ☹️
What? A teetotal Aussie?
Great subject ... just can’t contend with the Narrator
Some people love a bad boy. Like Dick Turpin and the like. Thanks for sharing.
He wasn’t a bad boy he was a murdering dirty scumbag
@@mikelandy2078 can't get no badder than that.
Dick Turpin was a killer and a killer and rapist a right bad piece of work but still people loved him well the ones that dident know him like kelly
Great video but for gods sake sort your voice out it was hard going!!
I wonder the same about my fellow Americans whom supported Bonnie and Clyde, and the dumpster, who's finally facing justice. My name is Bicycle Bob and I approved this message.
great story, thanks....
I'm sure he had his good side, most people have two sides. ...
Flat Stanley only has one side😂😂
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 NO SUPERINTENDENTS WERE SACKED. Total BS.
@@samsabastian5560 The Royal commission recommended they be sacked you utter utter lying cretin
Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a lazy frustrated South Australian cop with thirty years If he gives you a hard time i would reccomend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to SAPOLIIS@police.sa.gov.au
What are you talking about Ned didn't know what Peru even was sticking to the truth wouldn't hurt
What would you know about Ned Kelly matey? Just what you Googled online? For us Aussies he’s an icon.
Exactly 👏👏
Fair crack brother. 🇦🇺🦘
Don't see you telling the story.....🇦🇺🦘🤦
@@jadesmith6823 I have been telling the story on both the internet and FB.
@@samsabastian5560 You are obsessed by him,maybe in love even...
@@geoffbell166 Perhaps driven to remove the myths, lies and fiction, yes. The children of this nation should be taught the truth about a very serious criminal. I have been active in having a great deal of the myths that Ian Jones wrote removed from several government websites. At least 12 have already removed, or are removing Kelly garbage, written by Kelly fans, that presents a very false picture of a very serious criminal.
I don't really care what you say Mate
@9:37 - fatally killed? If you kill someone, I would hope that would be fatal. @10:35 - stand trial on the 19th October 1889 but was hanged but @10:58 executed 3rd November 1`880?
Ned was notorious, not the execution.
The execution is/wasn't notorious. Mr Kelly is notorious but that in no way makes his execution notorious.
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 Have you taken it to the ombudsman?
@@mikeoz4803 You don't learn, do you, Mike? The Royal Commission recommended some police be retired, admonished, reduced in rank or dismissed. The Victorian government rejected almost all their recommendations.
You claim Supt Hare and Nicolson were sacked. WRONG. They were re-instated and both made Police Magistrates.
No police were reduced in rank. Total and complete BS.
The attempted murder charge of Constable Fitzpatrick was NOT found to be false. Ned Kelly even admitted to shooting him after his capture.
You are claiming the police were notorious for corruption. Yet the RC found NO corruption in NE Victoria in the police there.
Fitzpatrick was dismissed from the police force without being given a reason. He asked for a fair hearing, but that was denied. His treatment was an injustice.
By 1869 almost all the squatters had been removed from the Greta, Moyhu, Benalla area. Kelly's thieving was mostly from poor settlers, taking their only work horses, leaving them to fact bankruptcy.
Kate Kelly made up the false allegation that Constable Fitzpatrick approached her improperly, but even Ned Kelly and William Williamson, who were both there, confirmed that it never happened.
You claim the RC looked at police corruption. NO THEY DID NOT. In the entire RC the word corrupt is not mentioned. No corruption was found. You are again lying.
You, Mike, are a liar and a disgrace for promoting what you know is fictitious rubbish. You, need to get a life.
@@petereiso5415 Have you seen your shrink lately?
@@mikeoz4803 No I haven't, I just wash in hot water if I need to shrink, but that is extremely rare.
One can expect an outcome such as this when one goes round robbing and killing.
Yes, I never really understood the hero worship. All I can see is an ordinary thief and murderer.
@@innocentbystander8038 because u probly vote for Dan Andrews too
Typical sheeple
@@innocentbystander8038 You are 100% correct. Plenty of ignorant fools out there, who live in a world of delusion.
Ned Kelly was a revolutionary , he wanted vic to become a Republic , this was bought on by the massacre at the ureka stockade 1854 , and many people in the community where he lived were sympathisers , this is why the traps were allways around , to this day the cfmeu flies the southern Cross 🇲🇶
Absolutely and may the Spirit of Ned Kelly remain in the hearts, souls and psyche, of we, the Australian people! Onya Ned!
Dumb comment. Kelly was a vicious stand-over-thug and a very serious murdering criminal. Your knowledge of him is abysmal.
As long as he killed other people
Hear, hear, onya Ned!
@@MissMarquise You need a brain transplant.
Your understanding of Ned Kelly is pathetic. He was a very serious murdering criminal of the worst kind. Your comments follow fictitious rubbish written by pro Kelly fans, without a scrap of truth anywhere.
Can you do something about the intonation in your voice? Great videos spoiled by a boring monotone style.
he is the symbol of australian independence.....like wallace in scotland and so many who faced down the crown their legends live on....as for their executers they are despised forever...
Ned Kelly = Cop Killer
Slightly bias video. Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15.
@@mikeoz4803 Mike Oz. I have corrected your fictitious statements before. Are you that thick you cannot learn?
the police in Victoria were 82% Irish and most were decent family men with many children who were well respected in their small communities as they kept them safe for the Kelly scourge. The Royal Commission of 1881 into Victoria police found the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminal enterprise of Ned Kelly.
As a result of the Royal Commission, NO superintendents were sacked. Supt Hare and Nicolson were both promoted to be Police Magistrates.
No other officers were demoted, sacked, or forcefully retired.
The RC also found NO corruption. Ask Mike to present evidence of corruption, and he goes to water, as he is just making it up.
Kate Kelly was NOT raped by police. She made up that fiction some 10 months after Fitzpatrick went to the Kelly home to arrest Dan Kelly for horse stealing.
After Ned Kelly was captured, he stated that Fitzpatrick did not go near his sister.
Mike Oz is a liar through and through and a fiction promoter. He disgraces himself with his rubbish.
@@mikeoz4803 NOT TRUE. That document was part of a report written in 2007 for the Police Integrity Commission (now defunct), by a Kelly fan, and it was NOT TRUE in any sense. It appeared in a report that was on the Victorian IBAC site, and I had it removed from the IBAC website because I proved to IBAC it was made up rubbish.
In that RC the word 'corrupt' is not mentioned anywhere in any questions, answers or recommendations. No corruption was found with the police in NE Victoria.
The RC stated that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's, and they were NOT harassed.
As far as the report goes, let me inform you. The Victorian government rejected almost all the RC recommendations.
1. Chief Commissioner Standish retired 6 months before the RC even began. The report that it ended his career is incorrect.
2. No senior police careers were ended. Supt Hare & Nicolson were re-instated and a few weeks later were both promoted to be Police Magistrates.
3. Supt Sadleir was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He retained his position.
4. Det Ward was recommended to be removed to the bottom of the seniority list. He was moved back one position.
5. Sgt Steele was recommended to be broken to the ranks. He retained his rank and position as the OC Wangaratta, and retired many years later.
6. The only police to be dismissed were three police who had been sent to guard Aaron Sherritt at his home.
Justified on the grounds the cops had bragged all over the towns they would hunt down & kill the Kelly's given the chance, They went out in the bush armed to the teeth with the latest weapons knowing the Kelly's only had 1 rifle that shot around tree's. It was self defence & the record proves it.
@@samsabastian5560 LOL totally deranged Williams aka Sabastian - Folks there's a character on UA-cam that goes by the name "Sam Sabastian" He trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments.His real name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS a frustrated South Australian Police Sargeant & his boyfriend Lapalad. If he gives you a hard time i would recommend you cut n paste his trolling antics and send them to SAPOLIIS@police.sa.gov.au Ned Kelly called out Police corruption.....so should we
Some of Ned Kelly's story must have been lost, I think. I don't understand how such a scumbag was admired by so many of his contemporaries. I'm Australian and grew up hearing that he was somehow heroic. It doesn't make sense to me. Thanks for giving so much detail about Kelly and his gang.
If you know the reason for the rebellion at Ballarat, and the corruption and evils of the Crown authorities and enforcers of the time, then you would realise how hated they were and why the likes of Ned Kelly were hero worshipped. This was a common thing in past times, with the likes of Dick Turpin in England and the American outlaws hero worshipped.
Interesting opinion and understandable.
@@hughneek12 very true.
His beef was with the cops and government. He never harmed anyone else. When he robbed banks, he'd burn all the mortgages, essentially freeing all the townsfolk from debt. And then chuck a huge piss up at the pub to celebrate. They weren't exactly hostages. :)
He didn't really start out any better or worse than the people around him. With both his father and uncle being horse thieves it was only natural that he turned down that unfortunate road as well. He didn't really do anything that outrageous until the authorities cornered him as it were. And it should also be noted that the police was notoriously corrupt and brutal and that it is even believed that Fitzpatrick might have been involved in the horse thefts that he was supposed to arrest Dan Kelly for. The Kelly's told a very different story about what happened that night - Ned even claiming he wasn't even home until well after the incident - and at Stringy bark creek and, sure they certainly wouldn't make the most impartial and trustworthy witnesses but neither would the police, especially with how big and controversial the case had gotten when it finally came to court. There was also this idea floating around that the gangs activities would weaken or embarrass the authorities to the point where it would lead to open revolt and the installation of a new democratic rule. That, together with the fact that he burned all mortgages he found during his (two) robberies and used at least part of the money he took to help the friends and neighbours who were being persecuted simply for being connected to him, is why many people see him as very much of a Robin Hood figure.
Mack Jagger made a movie about him!
As did Heath Ledger in 2003.
@@Aran_chini As did John Jarret who played Ned Kelly in a 4 part mini series along with other AUSTRALIAN actors of the time Sigrid Thornton, Steve Bisley and a few other good actors were All in it and it was made in about 1980 I really like heath Ledger acting but it's NOT one of his better movie roles
@@stevenguegens9516 I saw that one also. I ‘d like to see a doco or dramatization that also told the story of Kate Kelly. She was a fascinating person who suffered a tragic life. It deserves a telling.
@@Aran_chini I agree with YOU 💯 percent NOW that would be good what about in the theatre like a serious type of play
I'm a big Rolling Stones fan, but the Mick Jagger film about Ned Kelly is all but unwatchable. A lot of it isn't Jagger's fault, the direction and editing and parts of the script are terrible.
Ned my hero great man
Rex Shearn Go see a psychiatrist, you sure need one.
What rugby league team do you support?
@@rossbrown6641 Not Rugby but Australian Rule Collingwood
@@rexshearn9246 That explains a lot.
We used to go to his restaurants here in the states. Pretty good tucker
What did you eat? Croc genitals?
Just what we need a whining Englishman to explain our History to us
But Mick Jagger his grandmother was born here in AUSTRALIA
You seem a tad unbalanced there hashtag, pop another chip on the other shoulder.
Old Ned never took kindly to pommie Robber Barons !
But you dont have any history. That's why you still revere an Irish murderer.
Says he who's ancestry is from the Northen Hemisphere
Cometh the day
Cometh the warrior 🔥
Shit mate you made a mess of that . Missing important info relating to what happen at the house and there on . research is required don't just wing it . From Australia
No mention of Jesse Dowsett why
Maybe at first if the police hadn't been so down on his mother and the cop chatting up his young sister who was only 14
Daniel McFarland The Royal Commission found that the police acted properly in dealing with the Kelly's extensive criminality.
Your claim that Kate Kelly was 'chatted up' by a police officer is not true in any sense. Where are you getting this fiction from?
First movie I seen about ned Kelly was with heath ledger and Orlando bloom haven't seen the newest one yet
He was notorious, not the execution. Just copied/paraphrased from Wikipedia for the most part.
No coincidence that much of this happened a few decades after Australia's second only open rebellion against the establishment, the Eureka Stockade in 1854. Most real Aussies know what happened there and how a large group of miners stood up to a police force and government that had tried to capitalise on their hard work by introducing a License tax.. It was known that police and officialdom not only ran the grog shops but also the brothels.
The Chinese miners group was treated really badly to the point where their places of worship were burned and ruined with little done by police to come up with answers.
So much hatred of a corrupt regime and its foot soldiers festered for the years after and these revolutionists had had a gutfull. The police were lackies for the gentry and it is no wonder that subsequent commissions and investigations found little wrongdoing by them in the Kelly's case. There are other minor cases at this time and it is thought that a larger revolutionary unit was in the making. Clearly there was persecution of the plebs.
Frank B There is no question that corruption was rife in those early years. 1854, when Eureka occurred. Some 20 years later, there was an elected Victorian government, and corrupt police were removed and replaced with men of calibre. Mostly direct from Ireland, and they were not corrupt.
Frank B Off with the fairies again, are we Frank?
These were tough men in tough times and they built Australia ! For me it's a tragedy what Australia has become, wokism totally out of control
especially the left how they believe child abuse is ok.
"His father went to jail for 6 months for stealing a car' - 1850? Hmmmm sure ok lol
Jeez he was a Handsome Young Man. So sad they took his life.
Ned sure was a swinger.
Legend
Chuck Stand-over-thug and murderer.
Respect. 💯
ned kelly and big les are aussie legends
Only in the minds of ignorant fools.
They didn't have cars to steal then
Ned didn’t shoot Fitzpatrick it was Dan.
David Keys Ned Kelly admitted to shooting Fitzpatrick.
@@lukewarm7744 Can't you read? Ned Kelly admitted to shooting Fitzpatrick. Isn't that enough for your feeble mind?
Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years
@@samsabastian5560 Folks there's a compulsive liar on UA-cam that trashes all Ned Kelly related video's and Trolls anyone and everyone who makes comments. His name is BRADLEY WILLIAMS an overweight lazy frustrated South Australian cop of thirty years