I love seeing Ronnie do the paint stuff, he is actually very talented to be honest. I tried to imitate what he does before and my touch ups suck compared to his
Thanks for filming this Ron! I really enjoyed your painting on this backglass. The gameplay on this one is fun. It's nice to have a clean playfield in the middle for once.
Great work on the backglass Ronnie. As you say, you didn’t have a lot of options…..but it looks much better than it did before. This looks like a game where you could rack up a lot of points with the triple bonus. This is a different layout that actually works very well, and it makes for a very fun game. Thanks for all the vids this year….Happy New Year to all at Lyons Arcade.
alright! chimes and all . nice restoration. glad to see there are still people loving and caring for those old machines. the backglass peeling of, is always a challenge. thanks for the video greets to joe and don. have a nice and healthy 2025 ya all.
Great job, Ronnie. The backglass looks very nice after you did your magic to it. I like that cool shot on the right side of the machine above the upper flipper. Thanks for filming
That game came out very nice Ron. I did notice that in the square grid of 9 rollover buttons, the top center button and the bottom right button did not seem to respond when the ball rolled over them. That is to say that the light did not turn off when the ball rolled over those 2 buttons.
@@LyonsArcade Actually I watched the whole video. If you watch from 36:04 till the end you will see the ball roll over those 2 buttons a few times and the light for those buttons does not turn off.
An airbrush would give a thinner layer of paint. In theory it would make it less noticeable than a brush, but it would still be noticeable, so if you don't already have an air brush, it would not be worth buying one. Also, air brush takes longer to do as the preparation and cleanup takes more time than just a brush. When you need to run a business and make some money from it, you have to do the most economical way. Someone doing this at home and just for themself can spend the extra time as a labour of love rather than needing to consider ecomomics. On the chimes, I believe that plastic "bucket" is to make the chimes louder as the sound resonates in the box. It may also make them peel off slower as the overall volume would be louder. Might actually be better without it in a home environment :) A person can add a resonator to it if they want to later. I think you do pretty damn good in the time frame you have available and the tools you have on site.
When I purchased mine in 2019, nearly all the black ink had flaked off the backglass. I decided to just opt for a replacement. Maybe I'll email a picture of the two of them. But it is such a cool game. That extra ball in nearly impossible to get because I find that you don't roll down that right inlane very often. Usually just goes out. Nice work on this one, as always. Thanks for making the videos.
I always had to backflip from the left flippers up the right alley behind the right flipper to get the extra ball. I lived in a free ball state so I had to keep doing that to get to 10 balls to play. Sometimes it would give me 2 extra balls for the effort. This machine looks like only one extra ball per player at a time with that light on the playfield above the left flippers. Lucky Ace, one player.
What about using a hair dryer , as soon as you paint use the hair dryer from a distance to thin it by blowing it out over the area. I bought the triple thick clear coat back a couple years ago and still use it every once in a while. It is great stuff I used it on my car that is flaking
Sounds like the only way to fix the back glass to perfection is to screen a new one. But as I'm posting this I wondered, what about digital printing on plastic film? Then attach it to the back of clear glass. You'd need the artwork though. Surely there are services that do that sort of thing? I googled and it seems it's a part of the printing industry all right. They use it for signage etc.. Expensive? Probably a fair bit more than a paint touch-up but it sounds like an option for someone? And I have no idea if it'd look the same as a screened glass. Since others threw out ideas I couldn't be left out, lol. Cheers.
Something you may want to try is something called printable water transfer it's like the old decals that you used to put on plastic airplanes and cars p what is printable you can use for inkjet just a suggestion
With the chime unit, shouldn’t the coils be mounted on the outside so the resonator can go in the middle. I have the same style chime unit and there’s a bucket in the middle.
This might sound crazy as a suggestion but have you ever heard of Kintsugi, which is a Japanese art that repairs broken pottery with gold. Perhaps the way to repair glass is to repair in a way that highlights not hide age... like I said maybe that's crazy but perhaps you could have results by approaching the problem in a different way. Or as you have in the past white or wash of brown can hide things in what looks like shadow or highlights :).
you should have just done the black on the hand that was bad scraped off the pink on that hand completely the repainted it after you matched it by doing that whole hand it would have looked good and been hard to tell it was redone
the backglass. OEM survivor? a reproduction, maybe? this EM machine has a neat coherent look to it. Aha! Paint flaking issues. so it took a While to track down.
I just wonder. Could some layers of color wash not fill in the paintless areas? Sure you would have darker edges of the washed areas. But as the edges still stay visible anyway, you lose nothing there. Positives would be, there are no brush strokes. You don't have to paint to the edge, as you fill the slightly lower area between the edges of the original paint. The thickness of the paint is super thin, and can be controlled by how many layers you would create. Biggest problem you could get, is that the waterlike paint don't flow, and just sits there as a droplet. It would on glass, but your painting on varnish. My ADHD brain just can't handle the idea, that there is no better way to repair those back glass panels. 😳 Just brainstorming here. Not meant as critique! 🥴
That does work. It will not be perfect, but it will be more uniform. I'd like to try airbrushing this technique, because you can control the width of the jet and amount of spray at the same time.
There is a BETTER way, just not anywhere near as quick as this way. So you could do it the way you're describing, but this took me about 2 hours.... the way you're describing would take at least 10 times that for marginally better results.... At that point with that much time invested it would be easier to just buy a reproduction backglass, unfortunately.
@@LyonsArcade That's why I am bad as a business man. 😅 Plus ADHD makes me forget the time. So even in my brainstorming I seem to forget that factor. 😊Thanks for answering, and I wish You a happy new year! 👍🎉
This is probably one of my favorite restorations done on this channel. Glad to see it saved and playing well.
I love seeing Ronnie do the paint stuff, he is actually very talented to be honest. I tried to imitate what he does before and my touch ups suck compared to his
Thanks for filming this Ron! I really enjoyed your painting on this backglass. The gameplay on this one is fun. It's nice to have a clean playfield in the middle for once.
I appreciate it, I really enjoy this machine too!
Enjoyed this series and very well done with the painting. Thanks for sharing and regards.
Those jet bumpers are powerful
Well you preserved history. Thankyou keep up memories of these machines.
Happy enough makes a good daily driver for some lucky customer.
Nicely done! Fun watching these games come back to life.
Great work on the backglass Ronnie. As you say, you didn’t have a lot of options…..but it looks much better than it did before. This looks like a game where you could rack up a lot of points with the triple bonus. This is a different layout that actually works very well, and it makes for a very fun game. Thanks for all the vids this year….Happy New Year to all at Lyons Arcade.
Thanks as always Mark, we appreciate it!
It’s an excellent lite-refurbish, keeping the patina. Glass looks great. Playfield super good. Great Job.
Wabi-Sabi
Thank you for posting
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I think you were trying to remember Pat Hand. Great job bringing this rough machine back.
Glass looks great. Cool game.
Nice work Ron as always
Thank you, I appreciate it!
alright! chimes and all . nice restoration. glad to see there are still people loving and caring for those old machines. the backglass peeling of, is always a challenge. thanks for the video
greets to joe and don. have a nice and healthy 2025 ya all.
Great job, Ronnie. The backglass looks very nice after you did your magic to it. I like that cool shot on the right side of the machine above the upper flipper. Thanks for filming
Thanks for watching!
Nice work. Another one back from the dead.
I grew up playing that pinball game. a Buddy of mine had one when i was a kid back in the early 80's. still play it once in a while through emulation.
This might be the exact same cabinet! Did you vandalize it in any identifiable way??? :)
Great game. Nice easy rules and good play, nice job.
Good job!
That game came out very nice Ron. I did notice that in the square grid of 9 rollover buttons, the top center button and the bottom right button did not seem to respond when the ball rolled over them. That is to say that the light did not turn off when the ball rolled over those 2 buttons.
I don't think you watched long enough
@@LyonsArcade Actually I watched the whole video. If you watch from 36:04 till the end you will see the ball roll over those 2 buttons a few times and the light for those buttons does not turn off.
If that's true hardies1, then how did I reset the buttons over and over again? I don't think you watched long enough
Classic game for sure!
I really like this game. LOOKS GREAT.
Great game for sure!
An airbrush would give a thinner layer of paint. In theory it would make it less noticeable than a brush, but it would still be noticeable, so if you don't already have an air brush, it would not be worth buying one. Also, air brush takes longer to do as the preparation and cleanup takes more time than just a brush. When you need to run a business and make some money from it, you have to do the most economical way. Someone doing this at home and just for themself can spend the extra time as a labour of love rather than needing to consider ecomomics.
On the chimes, I believe that plastic "bucket" is to make the chimes louder as the sound resonates in the box. It may also make them peel off slower as the overall volume would be louder. Might actually be better without it in a home environment :) A person can add a resonator to it if they want to later.
I think you do pretty damn good in the time frame you have available and the tools you have on site.
The backglass looks cool
I didn't notice the paint missing
Have you tried thinning the paint ?
When I purchased mine in 2019, nearly all the black ink had flaked off the backglass. I decided to just opt for a replacement. Maybe I'll email a picture of the two of them. But it is such a cool game. That extra ball in nearly impossible to get because I find that you don't roll down that right inlane very often. Usually just goes out. Nice work on this one, as always. Thanks for making the videos.
I always had to backflip from the left flippers up the right alley behind the right flipper to get the extra ball. I lived in a free ball state so I had to keep doing that to get to 10 balls to play. Sometimes it would give me 2 extra balls for the effort. This machine looks like only one extra ball per player at a time with that light on the playfield above the left flippers. Lucky Ace, one player.
@@ericbentsen1785 ooooh living on the edge with that back flip. Yes, Dealers Choice being the replay 4-player version was one extra ball per ball.
The original chime box isn't missing. You have detailed records of exactly what you did with it.
Thank you for the clarification, any more bits of knowledge you feel like protesting
What about using a hair dryer , as soon as you paint use the hair dryer from a distance to thin it by blowing it out over the area.
I bought the triple thick clear coat back a couple years ago and still use it every once in a while.
It is great stuff
I used it on my car that is flaking
That might work!
Is is the lights behind the back glass causing the flaking because it appears that none of the black have issues.
The black is thicker
You should try to find some paint brushes made from animal furs, apparently they do not leave brush strokes like normal brushes do.
Dang, you can play also!
What about thinning the paint so it is very thin and apply it sparingly
How would that be better?
@LyonsArcade the thinner the paint is the easier it would be to match the shade of paint with the amount of light able to come through it
The machine I had when I was 12, I kept the tilt, but softened it up so I could give it a little English..lol
Sounds like the only way to fix the back glass to perfection is to screen a new one. But as I'm posting this I wondered, what about digital printing on plastic film? Then attach it to the back of clear glass. You'd need the artwork though. Surely there are services that do that sort of thing? I googled and it seems it's a part of the printing industry all right. They use it for signage etc.. Expensive? Probably a fair bit more than a paint touch-up but it sounds like an option for someone? And I have no idea if it'd look the same as a screened glass. Since others threw out ideas I couldn't be left out, lol. Cheers.
Yes they make films you can replace the existing glass with
Ron, little off topic, who do get Molex .100 and .156 pins and housings now that GPE is gone ?
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Something you may want to try is something called printable water transfer it's like the old decals that you used to put on plastic airplanes and cars p what is printable you can use for inkjet just a suggestion
How would that be better?
With the chime unit, shouldn’t the coils be mounted on the outside so the resonator can go in the middle. I have the same style chime unit and there’s a bucket in the middle.
Not Sure
Dang, i thought you stopped making videos. UA-cam quit recommending your vids even though I'm still subscribed.
I haven't gone anywhere, UA-cam just likes to play games
This might sound crazy as a suggestion but have you ever heard of Kintsugi, which is a Japanese art that repairs broken pottery with gold. Perhaps the way to repair glass is to repair in a way that highlights not hide age... like I said maybe that's crazy but perhaps you could have results by approaching the problem in a different way.
Or as you have in the past white or wash of brown can hide things in what looks like shadow or highlights :).
Another grear em video, thanks! What about that different font type fake 0 on all 4 player score reels, are those original?
Gottlieb dummy zeroes?
Maybe
Only the Ballys Pinball games have the Resonating Bucket for the Chimes? Williams & Gottlieb pinball games Chimes don't have a Resonating Bucket?
you should have just done the black on the hand that was bad scraped off the pink on that hand completely the repainted it after you matched it by doing that whole hand it would have looked good and been hard to tell it was redone
ok
You said we would never see the video if I dropped the back glass. My question is, have you ever dropped one?
i guess if there was a type of paint that sticks to glass but doesn't stick to the existing paint... but that seems unlikely
Sounds like the similar problem, getting glue to stick to glass. That's why you have the black painted border on the windscreen on your car.
16:59 I don’t think I’m the first to comment with this, but we need a Julian Baumgartner collaboration
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the backglass. OEM survivor? a reproduction, maybe? this EM machine has a neat coherent look to it. Aha! Paint flaking issues. so it took a While to track down.
I just wonder. Could some layers of color wash not fill in the paintless areas? Sure you would have darker edges of the washed areas. But as the edges still stay visible anyway, you lose nothing there. Positives would be, there are no brush strokes. You don't have to paint to the edge, as you fill the slightly lower area between the edges of the original paint. The thickness of the paint is super thin, and can be controlled by how many layers you would create. Biggest problem you could get, is that the waterlike paint don't flow, and just sits there as a droplet. It would on glass, but your painting on varnish. My ADHD brain just can't handle the idea, that there is no better way to repair those back glass panels. 😳 Just brainstorming here. Not meant as critique! 🥴
That does work. It will not be perfect, but it will be more uniform.
I'd like to try airbrushing this technique, because you can control the width of the jet and amount of spray at the same time.
There is a BETTER way, just not anywhere near as quick as this way. So you could do it the way you're describing, but this took me about 2 hours.... the way you're describing would take at least 10 times that for marginally better results.... At that point with that much time invested it would be easier to just buy a reproduction backglass, unfortunately.
@@LyonsArcade That's why I am bad as a business man. 😅 Plus ADHD makes me forget the time. So even in my brainstorming I seem to forget that factor. 😊Thanks for answering, and I wish You a happy new year! 👍🎉
@@LyonsArcade
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Lions arcade?
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Just the tip though.
Since you guys are pinball dealers would this be your choice? 😅
That's pretty funny