This 1963 Major League Pitch And Bat Machine Wants To Work Again!
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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That "score to beat" is an interesting solution to the problem of having another "team" to play against. Its 2 digits so i assume that you could get a 1 to 99 as the score to beat?
I haven't completely figured out how that works... there is a switch on it that says "Open at 1" on the 10-90 reel so I'm not completely sure that it will give you any number from 1 to 99. At the beginning of the game it kind of randomly changes to another number, but I don't know if it could randomly change to 85 or so. Let me look at it again...
If you press the 'reset' button, it will stop the 1-9 unit at 5, and the 10-90 unit at 1. So pressing the high score reset button will eventually make it land at 15.
If the 'random reset' feature is turned off, the Score To Beat reels are pulsed once by the "High Score Relay" when you beat the high score, so it adds 1 if you beat it... And it does that over and over again, so if the score to beat is 30 and I get to 40, it will move it up to 40.
There is a number adjustment on the run unit, that tells it when to reset the score back to 15! It looks like you can set that for 30,35,40,and 45. It looks like on these, the score motor actually pulses 20 times before it gets back to 'home'.
If you have it on "random reset", your high score no longer increases it, and it will no longer reset at 30,35,40, or 45. Instead it turns on "Mix 1" and "Mix 2" relays... As the start relay pulls in and the score motor starts, it pulses the #1 mix relay at position 1, which Holds itself on through the mix wheel. The mix unit is pulsed up as the pitching motor turns, during gameplay, so it's on a semi-random setting. When the MIx 1 pulls in, depending on where the mix unit is, either it drops off at position 3 or position 4 of the score motor. This makes it have a variable time that it's actually engaged.
The Mix #2 relay will turn on at position 3 on the score motor, and stay on until the score motor gets back to home (position 6).
The Mix #2 relay, until it pulls in at position 3, will pulse the 10-90 score drum 10 times. This will essentially put it back to "1" every time, because it has an open at 1 switch on it. Then the Mix #2 relay will pull in and no longer do this...It now takes control of the Mix unit, and starts pulsing the same 10-90 score drum depending on where the mix unit is. It's either going to add 10 points at position 4 on the score motor, or if the mix unit is set up different it is going to (I think) add 20 points at position "+1" on the B reel of the score motor. It appears either way no matter what, you're going to land on either 1, 2 or 3 as the first number on the 10's unit. Some of the positions on the Mix unit don't have a connection so if it's on one of those positions (1,5, or 0) it will just leave the 10's digit at 10 on the score to beat.
On the 1's side, the #1 mix relay controls it, and is pulsed by the score motor's impulse cam. If the #1 mix relay drops out at position 3, it will have stepped up whatever number is the 1-9 score to beat I THINK 7 times, and if it drops out at position 4 it will have stepped up whatever number is the 1-9 score to beat 12 times. The score to beat 0-9 wheel doesn't have the ability to increment the 10-90 wheel, so it would just roll over.
All that to say, it looks like when it's functioning properly (remember in this video I haven't rebuilt the score wheels yet) it should randomly reset, at the beginning of each game, to a number between 10 and 39.
At least that's how I'm reading the schematics. Whew that's deep!
@@LyonsArcade thanks for taking the time to cover that (and type it too). Appreciated. Regards
Thank you, Joe. You do a great job with these. You are an excellent narrator and I also love the humor.
Thank you! I’m glad you like it.
The great thing about electro-mechanical machines is that once the switches are clean, they just work. Solid state can have weird issues if a transistor or something is intermittent, but relays, swiches, coils just work and are very reliable.
I remember playing these when I was a kid. If my memory serves me, which it usually doesn't, (sucks gettin' old) some machines accepted dimes and quarters. One dime would get you one play, and a quarter would get you three. Please correct me if I am wrong. Additionally, the cabinets I remember playing with had two steel buttons, one for the pitch and one for the bat, approximately the size of a silver dollar.
That sounds about right.
I love the way lost parts and garbage collects in the bottom of the cabinet over the years
always seems to be some nice treasures down there
Luckily most people don’t keep them clean 😃
Really interesting machine, i loved the Abbot and Costello reference cracked me up, caused i knew what you meant🤣
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These games are so cool and so complicated for the time. Amazing mechanical designs. Have a great weekend guys!
I was 2 years old when this machine was made I remember playing this machine in my pre teens and remember it be very fun I love the memories these old machines dig up 😊❤
Watched a few minutes but going to save it for the coffee shop tomorrow. Great stuff Ronnie! (as usual!) Regards
Enjoy!
@@LyonsArcade❤. Oh, one more thing… Bingo, Bingo, Bingo, pretty please. 😉 Regards
Thank you, Ron. Looking forward to Tuesday. You and Joe have a good weekend!
Thanks for watching as always!
Making good progress Ronnie. It now pitches and you can hit the ball….That’s the main thing at least basically working….I never put money into these as a kid, but I like them a lot now…The running man unit is really cool, even as 60 years has flown by. Can’t wait for the new backglass and plastic surround.
Thank you for this video !!! I have a 1962 Williams World Series I picked up at an auction, but it is gonna need a lot of help !! There is a spring for the pitching unit that is hard to get, A Guy by the name of Scott Webb is making them along with a lot of other nice repro parts for Pitch & Bats. If you would like his conatct info please let me know. Thanks Ron !!
I think he’s who I got the home run plastic from
This is so cool! Too bad it takes up so much room, or I'd be looking for one.
Yeah they are huge!
Thank you for a great video and extra thanks for the "Who's on first"reference!
Glad you liked it!
Well technically the bat acts as a flipper 🤔
Messing around, thank you for taking the time to record!
Love the older electro-mechanical machines. lots of thought to get things to sync up.. and be operational after 60 years!
They’re masterpieces of engineering
Glaze that back glass and paint it back in for wall art.
Too much time to paint it I’ll clear it though
11:06..best sound effect for a magnet I will ever know. Thanks for all you do, Ron. Happy New Year from Canada!
Happy new year!
Yeeennnt.
I remember playing a more modern version of this in the 90s that had baseball card as prizes
Slugfest, it was the final one Williams made!
Loved playing these in bars in the 1980s. Nice video, thanks.
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked it!
Being that machine was from Myrtle Beach, I would bet there has to be some sand inside there somewhere. Oh my lord, I can smell the salt air, hear the ping clang of machines, with the sound of The Embers playing in the background.... Yeah I spent a little time in my youth in Myrtle. :)
This particular one wasn't at Myrtle Beach our other one was, but yup I spent plenty of time there too! "Sand in my Shoeeeesssss"
I think I got it...
1) NEVER play on a dirty field
2) Make sure your shaft is clean
3) Oil is great for cleaning and lubrication
4) Super Lube if the need is dielectric
5) Sometimes friction is good
6) Just the tip?? or was that a different thing?'
7) The Bat Relay turns something on .. I got lost and my brain was full of Adam West's Batman showing off his Bat Accessories
8) Sometimes its ok if it's a little loose, everything doesn't always have to be tight
9) keep the use of your old rusty balls to a minimum
You got it
I'm surprised that there wasn't a note inside that said, "It's broke!"
Keeping you on your toes
A superb vid. I relax while I watch...great job😊
I'm glad you like it!
"It probably jammed, oh look, a spring" LMAO!!
On Saturday 1/4/25, I played a perfectly working Deluxe World Series mechanical baseball game manufactured by Chicago Coin. This was at a fantastic arcade in St. James Village in PA. They have lots of old electro-mechanical pinball and arcade games. The pinball games are all 2 plays for a quarter!
I'm looking forward to when the bells and chimes are working! I greatly enjoy your repair videos, whether they're pinball, jukebox, or whatever. I think you mentioned a bingo game? That would be an interesting video series to watch. Same with pachinko! Seems there's a lot of electromechanical entertainment contraptions out there. Thanks for the videos!
One of these days we’ll do some bingo machines
Rebel Ronnie! Never gunna change!! ✊🏻
You just don't understand Ron!! My way is always the right way. If everyone isn't gonna do it my way... I'm anger leaving!!! 😜🤣🤣 People need to get a grip. There's always more than one way to do something. We used to do it just like you back in the 80's. I actually got to work on some pitch and bat units when I worked at Walt Disney World in the Main Street Arcade. Pretty fun stuff 😊
The best guy in the world at working on these, does it like this, I just copy him. To act like the thousands of machines he repaired were all done wrong shows a certain level of bullshit I'm not down with :)
@@LyonsArcade Yep. I learned from an old timer that was working on machines since the 40's. Can't argue with the guys who basically invented the stuff LOL 🤪
Back in late 70s early 80s I believe Playmor camp ground here in northern Indiana had this machine. I remember the artwork on the sides and running men. They also had Duotron / Bon Voyage pinball machines. I am in my 50s and miss the pre solid state era.
Looking at the warped plastics and the incandescent bulbs behind them... I wonder how often a burned out bulb got replaced with one that was too high-watt. This is a place where I would consider using LEDs, maybe the kind with warmer color to simulate incandescents...
I'm sure they put whatever bulb they had in there, I typically don't use LED's nasty ugly pieces of cheap chinese shit, I'd rather not have them in any of my machines.
Thanks for showing more of the bingo game. Looking forward to seeing you work on it! Thanks for the video and Happy New year
Happy New Year, thanks for watching! I've got I think 6 or 7 of those, we will probably do this one first just because it's here in the building, but some of the older ones were simpler and would be easier to repair. When we work through a few more of our pinball machines I'll pull it out and work on it. It'll still be awhile, maybe 5 or 6 months?
That's a note. Tells you about as much as your usual notes, but it's a note.
It sounds more hopeful than it's broke !
All in all, this one was in better condition than the one you did before. This has potential.
Absolutely!
Very kewl, I've never seen a machine like that.
Yes. You've got to see this one as well. This was definitely right long before the invention of the video arcade game machines that ever became so popular. Especially when this electro mechanical arcade game was a 1963 release. Even they were definitely a replacement to the wooden peep show cabinets that were ever so popular during the 1900s. ✅️ 👌 🙌 💯 👏 😌 ✅️
Batter up... soon... yeah new video!😃
Great second video Ronnie, Is the cabinet the same size as a 1963 Williams pinball machine? The head looks taller than a pinball machine. Thanks for filming Ronnie
It's a different design but put together it sits almost exactly the same height as a pinball machine.
Did you say Solder? I really heard you say Solder! Blasphemy! 😉(I really want back in time, where people just complained about silly stuff like this.) Great work! I believe I just did see one of these machines here in Europe in my whole life. And I was a child then. Maybe because Baseball was not that well-known here. It never came on TV like Football did. Ow that's Soccer for you there in the US. 😉
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A word of advice. Be careful about touching that power level rheostat. Its connected to the AC line and can shock you. Make sure your knob is a non conducting type. Since the power plug isn't polarized you'll never be sure the rheostat is connected to the safer neutral side.
What are you trying to protect me from?
The rheostat knob is isolated from the electrical connections. Wouldn't make sense to make it any other way.
@@LyonsArcade The HOT side of the electrical plug. One wrong move near that thing and you get zapped. Just advising everybody to be care near it. It's supposed to be insulated but 50 years of aging can make some insulation not so perfect.
@@randycarter2001 Are you under the impression that if I get shocked it's going to kill me? Are you under the impression that I haven't been shocked before? Are you under the impression that I don't know how electricity works after fixing and owning thousands of arcade games? I just don't understand what you're trying to tell me about.
How did I get through the last 5,000 or so games I worked on without getting electrocuted to death, I guess my country boy shtick has confused you.
@@LyonsArcade No, just a cautious reminder for those that may not understand. I see a large metal object there that may be connected to the live side of the power plug. There's no gaurentee the 2 prong plug got put in so that the rheostat is connected to the neutral side of the line.
Worse comes to worse when the wires are that close, if the one part is wood, a router might help.
I can kind of understand about sanding the switches. On old lawn mower points people would sand them clean and then the points would weld their selves closed where the micro scratches were made. Now there may be lower amps in the switch setups that means there could never be a problem I don't know enough about the function of the machines. but I do wonder have you ever had a switch weld closed after sanding?
Not in the 400 machines I’ve repaired. Nope.
@@LyonsArcade 400?? Cmon Ron... gotta be way more than that by now 🤣🤣
@@LyonsArcade Thank you for the answer and your work. I have learned a lot.
I miss these types of games.
They have a charm to them!
It's coming along I can't wait to see the new backglass on it.
That would be a fun game never seen it before
That is really cool.
It is!
been too long since ive watched a joe's classic vidja gamez vidja bean missing out love that quote " a masterpiece is never finished only abandoned " one i made in my late 30's for fun was "meticulousness is a great quality however a perfectionist is never ever done " ~deity~
It's not like you're using 80 grit... hehe... =)
Exactly
Hey Ron!!
Hey Jason!
You could easily fabricate the pieces to hold that slow pitch solenoid and the arm to connect it. Simple hand tools, drill, vise, and hammer with some metal i am sure you can come up with. Please fix the slow pitch.
Unfortunately I'm not going to do that.
My Midway "Little League" has the curve ball magnet and it works surprisingly well and very random. I have not looked too far into the schematics to figure out how it randomizes the pitch, but it must not be too complicated because this machine does not have nearly as many relays/switches/stepper units at the Major League game you have.
That part with the slow/fast/curve isn't too complex it could probably do it with just a few relays and some kind of variable like the match unit to select which pitch it throws...
@ 48:55 “I don't want to play it a bunch with old rusty balls.” When you said that, I could not help but laugh. I'm 50, and mine are slowly getting rusty.
When Ronnie looks at a schematic and is confused, I know I would be crying.
I think I’ve figured it out!
The lamps cooked on the plastic wire keepers.
Boy, if Joe would have written that note, it would have been much shorter….”It’s broke!”
Yep!
Hallo Joe, heute habe ich einen alten pinball Automaten gespielt bei uns in Deutschland. Er war jahrelang defekt gewesen. Ein pinball von Williams aus dem Jahre 1964 mit dem Titel Stop n. Go. Kennst du ihn? Habe ihn bei mir auf livestream liegen. Ich finde deine Videos mit den alten pinball Automaten echt klasse weil ich mir vorstelle wie unsere Eltern damals dran Spielten.
I’ve seen that one before, I know you’ll fix it! Thank you for watching in Germany!!
@@LyonsArcade Hello yes, I am writing from Germany. UA-cam offers direct translation. That's why I wrote in my native language.
The rehostat could also be viewed as making the game variable, what I mean someone gets use to how it plays, then lets change it up on him. The game didnt play the same as last time. LOL
Yep, lol I've had one in the past though that the bat was TOO strong, it had to be turned down or you couldn't hit the home run. The ball would hit the glass and miss the chute!
That Miss Universe is really 😎 cool❤
We dont play baseball here in UK or football
if you ever find gold bars on the bottom of the cabinet its mine..................yeah yeah mine............ _> LOL
If I ever find gold bars in the bottom of the cab you'll never see them on this channel :)
@@LyonsArcade LMAO!!!!
I'm really curious, I noticed the bat strength dial is fused. Seems like an odd thing to fuse. What's the purpose of it?
The power for the bat runs through the rheostat, and the bat is a huge coil. If it were to lock on it might burn up, so they put a fuse to blow instead of burning up that huge (and expensive) coil...
I used to love to play this at World Famous B&I Arcade Merry go-Around Area + the indoor Water Slide ( Original Home to) = "Ivan" the Gorilla = I played it originally in the 70's + early 80's it was one of the few they had which was thier .10 dime games . As was the chicken TIC TAC TOE ( play the Chicken ) and the Photo Both == first time i saw it I was UNABLE to Play it or the Pinball Machine LOCATED at Tacoma Wa Grey Hound station in early 70's CHILDREN was not allowed to PLAY arcade games at the BUS STATION ( gambling ) the next year I WAS able to finally Play it at "B&I circus store" South Tacoma Way÷ Tacoma(/Lakewood) Wa