This Pedal is STILL Great - Joyo American Sound
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2023
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The last time I tried a Joyo American Sound, it broke after one use. But I wanted to check one out again after chatting to some folks. It's actually pretty cool standing despite there being plenty of other options around. Obviously the credit should go to Tech 21...Anyone still using one of these?
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I've used this as my amp/speaker sim on my board direct live for the last few years weekly. It never failed and always infuriated guitar nerds how good the tone was for the $.
I just got it and love it. And both of those are huge selling points for me 😂
I just got one after wanting an attenuator for my tube amp. This thing is much cheaper then a attenuator and does a very similar thing. Sure it's not real, but now I can play in my acoustic amp and save my tube amp from being used 6 hours a day for practice. Great for cleans or cranked.
I'm going to paint it black and remove all logos. But the only reason why is because when people see joyo they immediately think its bad, even if they thought it sounded good before (I have a 5w joyo champ clone and people love it until they saw the joyo logo) So it's gonna go black and if people really want one I'll break the bad news to them.
For the price, I think it's something almost every guitarists would want. Not to mention many people use it as a backup amp for gigs. This thing is amazing and needs to be shared more imo. If the big brands did the same thing, it would be an instant top seller if around $100
Have been researching the American for the past two days - great timing! Incredible playing and demo, as always.
The best thing, for me, with this pedal is that it has helped me figure out what kind of real amp sounds I enjoy. Until I got myself my tweed champ, it was almost always on. :)
Dude your playing is sublime
I have never been more excited for a video (thanks for the shoutout). Your playing in intro still sounded great (yes I actually watched the intro). On a 30 pound pedal. AUD$60 here.
These series of pedals are a decade old (original tech 21 even older), yes lots of content and reviews on them but its good to remind people that good sounds have existed for a while now and they are worth revisiting. I think your video and playing certainly showed that!
Having said that, waiting for the Joyo American Sound capture upload to NAM and Tonehunt 😂.
I dare you to try the Behringer TM300 next 🤣
Incredible pedal for the price. I´ve got all sorts of pedals and noticed that despite of time and rigs passing by i haven´t sold and still keep the AMJ (using it for some simple situations and saves me carrying my expensive stuff around). Thanks for the work you put on your videos! Great channel!
Really nice demo and great relaxing playing. Thanks!
I have one. It gives sense to my board. I just need my Bad Monkey, Joyo AS, Nux Mini Studio and a TC Flashback, and am more than happy with the tone I get. They all react great to dynamics and to volume knob moves : ) Thanks for revisiting the pedal.
Great playing! This is a sleeper pedal Fa real Fa real! Many uses, voicings. No deep diving, takes pedals extremely well! I use it at the end of my fly rig at church w a DI box going FOH… fantastic, don’t miss lugging around the amp 👌🏾💯🙏🏾 Fly rig from right to left: EHX mod 11 multi mod, OCD, Revv 3 Distortion, Keeley Caverns delay / reverb, American Sound! It’s all ya need at the end of the day🤘🏾😝
Great - and, for me, relevant - demo. So much tone is in the touch...
Yes. Me too. I love it. Having it gave me confidence to sound what i exactly want Direct with amp or from a mixer
Love this pedal. I agree that the simplicity of it is definitely a selling point for me!
Just picking one up, great timing John.
Joyo makes some great pedals for very little money. I recently bought the Joyo Preamp House (kind of a clone of the Mooer Preamp Live, but with less programming options and only 9 amps), and it sounds great.
Thanks for making this video ❤
Unexpected gem of a video.
My Tech 21 GT2 was my first pedal I used when recording to my 424 back in the day. Still love it into an amp and can mostly, can’t seem to say goodbye to it. 👍
I still have my First gen SansAmp with the dipswitches. Before it was called the "Sans Amp Classic" The moment I heard it direct into a portastudio, I bought one. It still sounds freaking amazing. Higher Gain stuff especially, although I have used it on a pedalboard as a sub in for doing 4 cable method with my combo amp, set up fender clean as a "virtual pedal platform" and it was able to do that pretty well too.
@@christopherjbutler yes it definitely has been a great purchase. I know they both sound a bit different but I would imagine not too much. I wonder how it would stack up against that Iridium pedal? Maybe we will see it pop up on Johns channel some day.
I bought a Joyo
American pedal recently.. I didn't expect it to be so good 👍🏻
The chain is Behringer NS100- Joyo FS14- volume pedals - mooer Ocean - Behringer GDI100 10x12.
Thank you! That was amazing
I have a Joyo AC Tone. I use that with a Cube Baby and some third party IR's and my direct amp modeler. It sounds great and it's really simple to use. The IR's that come with the Cube Baby didn't sound good in my opinion, but I found some free ones online that I really like.
Beautiful 🎸
what a fantastic melodic playing!!!!! we say in Poland Miód Malina!!!!😁
I follow these and other amps-in-boxes with the Neunaber Iconoclast speaker emulator before the DAW interface, no software IRs needed. The Iconiclast is not an IR box either, its a reactive parametric eq but set up to operate simply. You can access more functions if you hook it up to your USB, choose presets for 2x12 4x12 4x10 and so forth. Both single ended and balanced output, stereo in/out, headphone amp to monitor, its great, wait for a one $100 used.
This is my always on pedal for live. With a BD2 and an OCD before it, I'm able to get every edge-of-break-up sound that I need, with any number of different guitars, tube and solid state amps that I run it into with only a minimal adjustments. The best $29 dollars I have ever spent!
With the Joyo American, can you set it for a clean sound (or “edge of breakup” as they say) and give it a clean boost to make it go over the edge and break up / distort, like a real tube amp? Or do you need to change the “voice” and/or “drive” knobs to get the distorted sound? I’d like to know it can be clean with my guitar volume at 7, and then crank my guitar to 10 to get it to break up, or step on a boost pedal to do the same. I have overdrive pedals too, but I want to have that clean-to-distorted behavior just by boosting the signal, and none of the demo videos really show this. Thanks.
I had one of these which made me upgrade to a Tech 21 Blonde which is great. The Joyo is a sleeper pedal, wished I had kept it. I recently bought a TC Deluxe 65, the honeymoon period is over and it's now a divorce. The TC has a great reverb but once you start increasing the gain it's like bees in a biscuit tin.
I use the Harley Benton version of this pedal in front of a Joyo BSK-60 acoustic amp for street-gigs to get a nice, but really fat (bluesy-jazzy) clean sound for an electric guitar. A DIY-Zendrive clone in front of the American Sound, 1-2 modulation pedals and the ARP-87 after - ready to go everywhere at any time, nothing to fear with a reliable power bank. The American changes the typical thin and plinky sound (if played with an electric guitar) of an amp for acoustic guitar into a solid clean pedal-platform for electric guitar.
I use one for all guitar parts on my channel backing tracks. Straight into an audio interface, effects applied in the DAW. Quite honestly, it's got to be one of the best £40 I've spent on guitar related kit!! 🙌
I am a big Tech 21 fan, but never tried any of their non-sansamp (analog amp sim) products except the CompTortion, The Joyo sounds killer, especially in your hands.
Lead playing on the intro sounded sublime; proving the price of the kit doesn't hold anyone back really. EHX Hot Tubes is my favourite affordable pedal. It's a little bit more than the cheapest pedals but I love it's unique sound (Hot Wax is even cooler with the BB-style preamp on the right, for two different flavours, and stacking). Of the really cheap pedals I really like the Caline Blue Sky and the Behringer Super Fuzz SF300. Build quality/looks is awful but it sounds great, and 3 sounds. The Caline can be a little noisey. But I think some of these Joyo amp pedals can be a little noisy too. The Flamma FS02 and FS03 stereo digital delay and reverb really do sound good too, and the build/design is good too.
I have most of the JOYO tech-21 clones and I have found running it straight into the front of an amp (and using that amps speaker) they come fairly close to what they are trying to emulate...tip download the tech 21 manuals for best settings....also I think when going direct into a DAW...that the JOYO pedals sound much better going through an IR... appropriate to what ever model amp one is trying to emulate...😊 Cheers..
I have one of that pedal (joyo america) and i am very pleased.
you are right. american sound is awesome. i love mine
I have one, love it.
Very nice, brother 😊
Had one of these and loved it. Unfortunately shorted out on me a couple years ago and has been sitting in my closet since.
I have one, it's my secret weapon for live and (to a lesser extent) studio. Live, I often go direct with this and have an amp onstage, an AC 15 and/or a Hot Rod Deluxe. The Joyo feed then goes out front via my pedalboard and a Splitter. This then comes back to me via the monitor while for backline I have a small 'real' amp as stated (sometimes 2 for wet/dry or stereo behind me). I can't play with just a monitor in front and nothing behind me, it's a horrible configuration and should be illegal. Overall It sounds massive/kind of 3D. A shootout between this and the Strymon Iridium would be very interesting.
Hey John, have you tried matching it with a cab sim? it sounds much better. Much love from the Philippines.
Can get a lot of variety in tones. On my 'channel' I posted a couple of short clips for fun matching it to Paul David's Matchless amp and Rhett Shulls Gibson Skylark.
There is one always in the studio, usually makes it way onto at least one track.
The Caline Brigadier. It's got a Timmy on one side and a Tube Screamer on the other.
It is a hidden gem on the budget, I own 1.
I'm a big fan of inexpensive pedals in general, as much I love pedals and I have many vintage very expensive pedals too, it's hard to beat the value of the stuff from Caline, Joyo and a few other companies. They aren't necessarily clones either and tend to have some variations on the stuff they are based on, since a lot of people think they are straight knock offs, which they most of the time aren't (but sometimes are). A lot of "modern" pedals are straight up clones of vintage stuff too, but not necessarily good price/value ratio, and often misleading in marketing. If it sounds good, it is good.
Just goes to show - you don't need to spend a fortune to get yourself a great sounding and versatile overdrive. I think I have 3 of these in various forms that I've collected over the years. I still use mine quite a bit into the front of my HX Stomp and it sounds great (...to me anyway). I'd take one of these over a TS, Klon, Bad Monkey any day 🙉🙈🙊
Overdrive? Isn’t this an “amp in a box” ?
Beauty of a pedal. I got one used. Inexpensive means use your ears first. Do they make a good delay?
I have this one and the British voiced one - whatever it is called - Great stuff
Great playing great pedal. This pedal plus the Caline Pure Sky (Timmy) are brill bargains
the Pure Sky sound amazing !
@@mmelloffparis it's great. The Behringer Fuzz is great too; chorus and comp too. The Mosky Golden Horse too. And a price level above those, the EHX Hot Tubes and Glove are awesome. And the Flamma FS2 & FS3 delay and reverb are stereo, and really damn good. And the Mooer Yellow Comp, and the TC Spark Boost.
I dunno. I have a couple of tube amps but I'm enjoying my 2x12 Katana a lot. I tried the Sneaky Amps Twin Reverb settings but my dialled in Katana panel was just as good. Thought I'd try the TM300 Tube amp modeller and although that does warm up the tone, it all sounds a bit superficial and compressed for me. So I thought I'd give the Joyo a try. I can't hear any improvement on my Katana clean tone tbh. So maybe the overdrive sound will be worth it. No. All a bit fizzy, or maybe I just don't like overdrive. Can't find a pedal that comes close to a driven valve amp. If anyone wants to suggest something I'd be grateful.
I'd like to hear some hard-chrome Stones bars played on that, just to see what's what.
The Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz is a cheap pickup for those who want to dip their toe in the FUZZ world. I got one at Sweetwater this past week for $30, it’s a fun pedal.
Completely agree. It sounds really good. The chorus is quite good too. And the compressor, though I prefer the Mooer Yellow optical comp, though it's more like $60.
Probably the best cheap guitar pedal ever made it. You can't denied how good this sound. I use it after all my overdrives, before my delays and reverb, right in front of my fender hot rod deluxe tube amp and it makes everything sounds better, tight and pristine. Fantastic budget but high quality choice. Highly recommend it!!!
You use an amp sim right before your amp?
@@jayjones2821 Yeah i've met a few people who do that. It works if you can't turn your actual amp up high. Tube amps don't really have "their" sound until after 12 oclock, which with a hot rod is ridiculously loud. So essentially they are probably using the amp as a speaker more than an amp if that makes sense.
This pedal is just about anything you want it to be: boost, overdrive, tube screamer, distortion, amp Sim, or EQ. I've slammed the front of the amp with mine in various capacities. I've also used it to sweeten up different overdrive pedals that needed a bit more low end by stacking it in front of them and using a 6 band eq to give them a mid hump.
I have the british one i love it.
Love mine....I need a compressor to go with it. Can you help? 😎👍
all the way right. dimed.. eddie vh. beautiful ir cab. beefs everything, fender twin dimed
Check out the JOYO Preamp House pedal. Cheers
Question for everyone? I have one and I feel the volume is so quiet and when pushing the pedal it gets too overdriven. Any advice?
If you’re looking at budget pedals I’d recommend the Nux Horseman. It’s a Klon clone (obviously) with two modes. It has a beautiful warm sound
Klon’s make your guitar sound like it has a cold.
Totally agree. I love my Nux Horseman. I use it in front of my Yamaha THR10, my Boss Katana and even my Line 6 Pod Go to save a block and it just sounds great in all these situations.
I actually use the Horseman to overdrive the Joyo American Sound. It always amazes me how these two pedals rip a smile out of my face.
@@julioguerrero8849 Interesting! I have yet to try this with my American sound. Thanks!
Sold my Tech21 classic, because the Joyo American sounded identically side by side, but with more headroom...🤷.
I totally agree! What's more, I think it sounds even better running off an Alkaline 9v battery! 😎
Just orderd one: such variety, I stupidly sold two, well sold because I wanted jazzy strat, well I think this works as an EQ and fo Fender lovers like me but not too muffy tweed, this is Warmthness, 40€s wonderland...I tried the Mosky version, not there,
Im sorry your Caline Pure Sky had issues n your J Ma Sound..., maybe youre just destined to stick with the MONEY stuff? who knows Gods plannings..., maybe the Tech is better, butt down n listenin to your playin this IS SOO GOOD! one pedal Id like to try is a Menatone Howie! thats Dumble at BEST, maybe you can afford it, dislike it some, and sell it to me in 4 months? the 7 version sounded soo nice, Cheers, K in Finland
Can you set it for a clean sound and give it a clean boost (like more volume on your guitar, or a boost pedal) to make it go over the edge and break up / distort, like a real tube amp? None of the demo videos really show this - they all show people putting overdrive pedals before it, or cranking the Joyo’s drive knob. But I want to know if it will distort with enough gain input, even on a “clean” (or edge of breakup) setting. Thanks.
Yes, you can.
At the risk of sounding a bit weird, am I the only one who chooses to chill out to JNC’s improvs? Balm for my befuddled brain.
You’re not alone. :-)
EVERY DAY.. If that's weird, count me in as a weirdo. LOL :-) His intros are really REALLY that good. You're not crazy sir.
As we speak👍
No sir you’re not😊
This is pretentious. Everyone knows that everyone watches jnc for the music
I just thought of a really good effortless video idea for you: take all of these backing track intros and just stitch them together for like a 2-hour electric guitar music video... See a lot of comments of people who like them, it's the kind of thing I would listen to in the background while I'm working so you could rack up a lot of watch time even though it would technically be a lot of "views"
Does this have speaker emulation always on? Or does it not have - has to go into a guitar amp?
It has an always on cab sim that works great on clean & crunchy sounds, but with distortion sounds I think its better yo pair with a dedícate Ir loader pedal or an a real cab. However, this pedal Is amazing for that price point.
It might just be in my head that analog devices just respond better to touch. I've had mine so long I think it was $39.
They sound great with a klon into them.
@chrisfit I am using a EHX Soul Food into the Joyo American sound and it sounds glorious.
Do you put the effects such as trem, delay and reverb before or after the joyo?
Before.. Treat it like an amp sim
Can you tell me how do you recommend to connect this pedal inline? Do I need a DI box for that? Cheers!
Hi, yes I think we need DI Box (with cabsim off) between this Joyo amp&cab sim and mixer/PA/audio interface. I've tried live perform using Joyo American Sound directly to mixer, the sound was very good but it's very noisy no matter how I dial it, probably due to long cable & absence of ground/lift switch (usually found in DI box)
this sounds okey when run it directly to an audio interface? Or it needs a cabin simulation ?
Thank you. Tone and playing is great here!
It has cab sim built in. Can’t turn it off actually.
I use it for all guitar on my channel backing tracks. Straight into an Scarlet AI. Works great for me! 😎
I use it for bass. It is rare for me to like a bass pedal.
you're a fantastic player sir, but is the pedal dynamic? does it respond well to your touch and volume control? it's the only thing that's keeping me from purchasing it..
Hi..
Yes I can say it's really dynamic. I use mine all the time straight into DI box (cabsim off), never use any real amp nowadays.
Voice knob around 10 o'clock, bass knob rolled off (almost minimum). Gain around 12 o'clock. I'm using guitar with two humbuckers.
With that setup, it's crunchy, edge of breakup sound. When I pick mildly, it's sparkle clean. When I strum harder, it distort. When I use bridge humbucker, it really cut in the mix. But when I want it super clean and less trebly (for funk clean rhythm sound), I just rolled off my guitar volume. I hope this helps 😊
Cool pls do a vid on the actone...
The problem is you cant disengage the cab sim in the circuit on it. There is a pretty simple mod, but the problem is its is surface mounted micro parts smh. I hear its like the old "lifting blanket" and i want to try it since I rather run it without it into my torpedo cab...
The lifting blanket thing is about running it into a another amp emulation and/or power amp emulation , not about the pedal alone
If nothing else, it serves as an ultra cheap backup to your regular stuff.
It took me about a year but I bought four of this range of pedals back in 2017/18.
In this order - American, British, AC Tone, California.
Curiously, I can't lay my hands on the British one ...
I may have to get another 🙄
Someone said that they weren't good for Bass Guitar as they filtered out too much low end.
I didn't find that. Leastways not on the Brit.
I'll happily use their 'flavours' on guitar, bass, lead synth even ...
Another criticism was that the built-in analogue cab simulation spoiled them as straight FX pedals.
Again I disagree; and anywhoo with 3 band EQ there's plenty of scopre for tuning the tone to one's preferences.
I DID buy another 'British'.
I may have lent the first one out ... My memory 🙄
I was not disappointed, just as 'chewy' as I recalled.
Next job is to try a few of my old 'discrete' pedals in the loop/loops of the Helix.
Especially the ODR-1, Lightspeed, and the Keeley D&M.
Tasty pedals that are not modelled in the Helix.
say i want to use it as a cabsim, do i place it at the very end of the signal chain? after delay and reverb. and is it good enough to play direct on stage?
The new uad Marshall just came out. Joyo has a the British marshal emulation…. Next video idea?
I think we are about 4 weeks away from normal folks like us being able to get the UAD - but I did email UA to see if I could grab one....But yes a few folks have asked me to review it!
Signal chain please?
Would it work well with a IR reader?
Confirmo, I use this beauty pedal with mooer radar.
How does this sound live if used by running it direct into your PA? Would dramatically simplify my setup if I could loose an dedicated guitar amp. I’m not a tone snob.
I sometimes do exactly this using a splitter. I have an amp, (sometimes 2) onstage and send an out to the amp(s) onstage in stereo and this to front of house via my pedalboard. All the front of house has to do is add a little reverb. Onstage I have the sound from my amps sometimes in stereo or wet dry plus the Joyo Americsn coming through the monitor-its a massive 2 or 3 way sound via the Joyo and a small amp or two. The audience gets the pa plus some overspill from my amps onstage.
There’s a short clip on UA-cam of someone running this direct into their QSC PA. It sounds good.
Does this fill the same role as the Nux Amp Academy, wuith the Nux just simulating more amps?
I'd say so.
Johh, are you getting paid for this video?
Unfortunately the build quality is terrible. I bought one new that just stopped working after a few months of light home studio use.
Cheap Chinese rubbish.
Mines fine after a couple of years
THIS MAY be the best 39.00 I've spent in a long storied guitar joyrney, no magic, just sick value. This and a baby bomb are a guitar rig in your pocket.
What's a baby bomb if I may ask?
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I think he's referring to the Biyang Baby Boom series, I have the RV-10 Tri Reverb, haven't used it enough to really say too much other than it's a reverb and not bad for the price, I should mess with it alone more but almost always use my MXR reverb.
lately ive gotten many fattening and dynamic pedals, i bet this American sounds evn better!
...and you can choose the mids!!