The 14th Doctor Talks About the Flux | Wild Blue Yonder | Doctor Who

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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  • @supremeoverlorde2109
    @supremeoverlorde2109 10 місяців тому +150

    This scene just stabbed me in the heart. Not-Thing Donna pushed his buttons and made him vulnerable and then just ripped the rug out from under him. It felt terribly cruel.
    Also, does anyone else think David Tennant has just grown exponentially as an actor with age? I mean, he was always amazing, but his performance in these specials so far has just been next-level imo.

    • @alexandraroses192
      @alexandraroses192 9 місяців тому +4

      Oh absolutely I agree

    • @Luke-ky5ed
      @Luke-ky5ed 8 місяців тому +5

      Which is why I wish they made more adventures with him before the toymaker.

  • @mikesworld6064
    @mikesworld6064 10 місяців тому +126

    I do appreciate that Davies isnt sweeping the last run under the rug and is actually building upon it and showing more of the Doctor's trauma from the Flux event. Half of the universe was wiped out because of elements from their past and now they feel like they have to keep running to avoid burning up in the immense guilt.

    • @Kamenriderdecade105
      @Kamenriderdecade105 10 місяців тому +7

      You mean Russell?

    • @mikesworld6064
      @mikesworld6064 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Kamenriderdecade105 Thank you for the correction :)

    • @dylerturden8018
      @dylerturden8018 10 місяців тому +5

      Exactly, good or bad, we've come too far to bury things

    • @claireaquos6532
      @claireaquos6532 9 місяців тому +6

      ​​@@dylerturden8018 Well, RtD did also write the line "I made a jigsaw out of your history" to implay that anything could be canon now. (I feel he wrote this to calm down those who really hated the Chibnall era thought😅)
      But AGREE! So glad that he decide to continue the plot Chibnall has gave us. Regardless if it's good or not, it shouldn't be ignore (And has full of potentiel).

    • @sylph8005
      @sylph8005 8 місяців тому +2

      If they undid some of the Time War stuff (I haven’t really figured out the lore there), this is a good substitute for that trauma and guilt

  • @OhShiitakeMushrooms
    @OhShiitakeMushrooms 10 місяців тому +140

    For Donna it’s been 15 years for the doctor, It’s been billions.

    • @thedoconscratch
      @thedoconscratch 10 місяців тому +6

      ...hasn't it been more than just a thousand for the doctor?

    • @mackenziejohnson5200
      @mackenziejohnson5200 10 місяців тому +29

      ​@@thedoconscratchthat depends on whether one counts the full cumulative time in Heaven Sent as lived experience rather than just the final loop -- a line from that episode suggests that the Doctor may more or less possess the memory of every loop, but I think it is a legitimate point of interpretation that will likely never get a solid answer

    • @HarleyQuinn-vb5dm
      @HarleyQuinn-vb5dm 10 місяців тому +10

      ​@mackenziejohnson5200 I mean he did seem to remember at the end of each loop when The Veil killed him so I'd say that yes he does remember and the only reason why doing that for 4 and half billon years didn't drive him insane is because The Doctor is already a bit insane. Just a bit.

    • @infinitylord1524
      @infinitylord1524 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HarleyQuinn-vb5dmthat's true, they don't call him a mad man in his box

  • @levelwhat
    @levelwhat 8 місяців тому +31

    "You're saying this to break me down." he says as he takes a step back, because its working. God, what a heartbreaking scene on all accounts. You feel it later back in the tardis when the real donna asks if he's alright, but he clams up. he couldnt risk anyone getting that close again.

  • @paulkerrigan9857
    @paulkerrigan9857 9 місяців тому +24

    They both acted so well in this scene. It was gripping, and also completely devastating. You really see Tennant's pain on his face.

  • @LairdVerge
    @LairdVerge 4 місяці тому +8

    The look of disgust on the doctor’s face when he realizes he just poured his heart out to a creature

  • @CordlessJet549
    @CordlessJet549 9 місяців тому +22

    I wish the Doctor had actually seen the real effects of the Flux and not been wrapped up in the Division story the whole time. They never got to see a world devastated, people lost, people displaced, if they’d had the Doctor on one of those doomed worlds and trying to save as many people as possible but failing it would’ve been devastating and added so much more to this moment.

    • @xanderm6090
      @xanderm6090 2 місяці тому

      Most we had in terms of a solo trauma narrative was Vinder. (Who I still stand by should have been the second companion instead of Dan)

  • @thefilmmusicaficionado7937
    @thefilmmusicaficionado7937 2 місяці тому +6

    RTD's return has been very rocky so far but at least he's added that emotional depth back into the show. It shouldn't have taken this long for us (as an audience) to connect with the doctor's pain over the flux and the timeless child

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 8 місяців тому +17

    I love seeing the Doctor talk about events from his/her previous face

  • @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657
    @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657 10 місяців тому +86

    I love the fact that my doctor didnt get swept under the rug and forgotten. The lingering trauma of the Flux would be horrifying and this was a great way to bring it up.

    • @MrMarsFargo
      @MrMarsFargo 10 місяців тому +13

      Can't see the other reply, so figure it was a mean one. Adding this so you get a NOT mean one, I'm really glad you enjoyed Whittaker's run. Honestly, even though I don't love the ideas of the Flux or Timeless Child or Fugitive Doctor (more like I don't like the presentation/execution while liking the concepts), I still agree the solution isn't to IGNORE them but to actually EXPAND on them. My problem with them was mostly that they were such massive concepts introduced then... never addressed again. So I love that this implies RTD is actually going to expand on them in richer ways, because I think they were mostly untapped in Chibnall's run and exploring them in more detail is how to make them better realized concepts.
      So basically I agree, the show shouldn't ignore ANY part of the Doctor's history. Heck, even "The Sensorites" gets mentioned in "Planet of the Ood." All of it is part of how the Doctor became who he is now, and all of it has been part of his journey since 1963. To ignore or skip any part of that journey is like losing part of the character.

    • @TaeSunWoo
      @TaeSunWoo 8 місяців тому +4

      @@MrMarsFargocan we get more Who fans like you pretty please??

  • @Saberblast58
    @Saberblast58 10 місяців тому +29

    Once again, he became the man who regret

    • @claireaquos6532
      @claireaquos6532 9 місяців тому +2

      But unlike the timelords "genocide", the flux wasn't the doctor's fault. 🤔

    • @Mojo1356
      @Mojo1356 2 місяці тому +1

      @@claireaquos6532you have to remember that for all intensive purposes, he basically did do it until the very end of number 11 because of the time stream sync.

  • @unorthodoxbox
    @unorthodoxbox 19 днів тому

    What I adore about this scene is actually the music, if you listen you can hear the Flux motif ever so slightly. Love that little dash of musical continuity.

  • @jotunfalls4026
    @jotunfalls4026 10 місяців тому +22

    This scene devastated me

  • @MegaAstroFan18
    @MegaAstroFan18 10 місяців тому +16

    Sound is desynched. I am glad to see the Timeless Child and Flux being continued though. So have we still not had the universe repaired from the Flux? Cause damn. Fifteenth has his work cut out for him I guess.

    • @1000guy1
      @1000guy1 8 місяців тому

      Well doctors 14 and 15 are post flux doctors

    • @TaeSunWoo
      @TaeSunWoo 3 місяці тому +2

      Probably so copyright wouldn’t nuke

  • @Charcoal_Ranger
    @Charcoal_Ranger 10 місяців тому +28

    Gotta love everyone fighting about if Flux was good or not. 😅
    Let people enjoy what they want to enjoy, don't shit on someone because they enjoy something you don't. I have no opinion on Flux yet because I've been catching up, we all love Doctor Who so let's just enjoy the ride.

    • @Charcoal_Ranger
      @Charcoal_Ranger 10 місяців тому +2

      Also don't have a opinion on Timeless Child though it sounds like a interesting idea.

  • @altinaykor364
    @altinaykor364 Місяць тому

    watching this scene just makes it more unbelievable for me that how could they write 13th Doctor watch such a huge destruction personally and yet show no reaction about it, as if she doesn't care at all!

  • @danielallen4450
    @danielallen4450 10 місяців тому +36

    Its funny how he got more from Flux in one scene than Chibby in the entire series. Should have ignored the cursed child thing, but sure, no ones perfect

    • @rockysandman5489
      @rockysandman5489 10 місяців тому +12

      The cursed child thing 😂😂 think you got your franchises mixed up here buddy. But yeah, Potterheads would like to forget the cursed child as much as Whovians wanna forget the timeless child.

    • @tonoornottono
      @tonoornottono 10 місяців тому

      @@rockysandman5489we gotta get rid of the word whovian i can’t go around calling myself that. dr suess ass name.

    • @zachanikwano
      @zachanikwano 9 місяців тому +2

      I agree the timeless child storyline is as cursed as the cursed child story lol

    • @danielallen4450
      @danielallen4450 9 місяців тому

      In my defense, I was only half awake. Ah well, everyone knew what I meant 😂

  • @docintar
    @docintar 10 місяців тому +57

    Honestly, I thought, Chibnail era will be retconed, but we got this, nice!
    Sad I can't even remember anything about flux because of bad writing...

    • @davidgraham8299
      @davidgraham8299 10 місяців тому +43

      I thought it would be ignored and forgotten. But if Russell can make some sort of sense of it, so much the better.

    • @cameronpearce5943
      @cameronpearce5943 10 місяців тому +21

      I'm glad they're giving it a bit more gravity. Much like the Star Wars prequels (which like the Chibnail era I don't hate) were improved exponentially by the Clone Wars, I think the Flux will be improved by further developments of that plot line rather than just ignoring it

    • @ryanhasproblems
      @ryanhasproblems 10 місяців тому +10

      @@cameronpearce5943Gravity?

    • @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657
      @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657 10 місяців тому +22

      ​@@ryanhasproblemsthey might mean mavity

    • @peteratanassov9088
      @peteratanassov9088 10 місяців тому +11

      @@cameronpearce5943 It's called mavity, haven't you been to school?

  • @Kilroy_5150
    @Kilroy_5150 10 місяців тому +14

    Odd, it seems like the tracking and the sound are a bit off from my end. Anyone else having this experience?

    • @TheToymaker0
      @TheToymaker0 10 місяців тому

      Yea same here

    • @maxxam012
      @maxxam012 10 місяців тому

      The visual is lagging behind the audio, yea

    • @rockysandman5489
      @rockysandman5489 10 місяців тому

      Yup, the video is behind its audio. Poor quality upload.

  • @ThistleVictor
    @ThistleVictor 8 місяців тому +1

    I hadn't watched since... the beginning of Capaldi? Rejoined to see Donna... Even her Not-Thing 'It wasn't your fault!" .... Chills!

    • @SonicSnippets2
      @SonicSnippets2  8 місяців тому

      You should watch capaldi some of his episodes are amazinf

  • @Arfarf69
    @Arfarf69 4 місяці тому +1

    I think the flux will add many layers of guilt for the doctor now, just remember the flux didn’t happened too long before these events so in his mind it’s all fresh

  • @krighart1507
    @krighart1507 2 місяці тому +2

    I hated the Not-thing Donna in this scene.

  • @valexcx
    @valexcx 10 місяців тому +6

    We could’ve just ignored the worst era of dw 😭 I really didn’t need a reminder..

    • @Mytesmyth
      @Mytesmyth 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed they should just cancel this show again like they did in 1989

    • @BaronMartin
      @BaronMartin 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Mytesmyth Oh, you're full of great ideas, aren't you...

    • @travisoliver6741
      @travisoliver6741 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@BaronMartinI like how these two commenters above you express how they are bad writers.
      Good writers don't ignore what came after them, terrible writing (And bot was it some terrible writing) or good. They acknowledge what came before, directly or indirectly, and incorporate it into their narrative. Some of my favorite stories are direct responses and/or refutations of bad plot points in the past. As another commeter said, this sequence talking about the Flux is better than the entire Flux atoryline.
      RTD actually acknowledging the fallout of Flux, rather than just ignoring it like Chibnall, is good writing. It actually gives that series some narrative weight because now it actually means something.

  • @Mytesmyth
    @Mytesmyth 10 місяців тому +5

    What’s this flux that they speak of? Is this from the five year Jodie woke empire that I decided to skip and not considered canon?

    • @rockysandman5489
      @rockysandman5489 10 місяців тому +3

      Yes. It's the last Jodie season.

    • @BaronMartin
      @BaronMartin 10 місяців тому +1

      Maybe if you wouldn't be dumb and actually ask normally, someone would give you a decent answer...

    • @travisoliver6741
      @travisoliver6741 10 місяців тому +21

      >Calls Jodie's tenure as woke
      >Chibnall's writing is unironically the least woke Doctor Who has ever been, with such takes as "Amazon good"
      >Is currently watching something written by RTD, perhaps the most woke Doctor Who writer ever, only rivalled by the literal communist from the Classic Era.
      I can't tell if you just never watched the show, are just sexist, or you just completely missed many of the the points of Doctor Who

    • @Velocity_AU
      @Velocity_AU 10 місяців тому +1

      The second someone uses the word "woke" in unironic manner, then I know that person is a grade A idiot

    • @SpringtrapLover2010
      @SpringtrapLover2010 9 місяців тому +6

      If you have not watched it, how can you tell if its woke. Maybe watch it next time and then tell me if its "woke"