Catalonia independence from Spain explained in 4 minutes (Catalonia referendum 2017)

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  • @EpimetheusHistory
    @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +189

    READ THIS!! Misstated "Catalan Kingdom of Aragon"
    New updated version of the video, updated drawings & narration ( I am not sick anymore! )
    Fixed a couple misstatements and unclear statements pointed out to me in the comments :)
    ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html

    • @jimbobmeeko5908
      @jimbobmeeko5908 7 років тому +3

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    • @morganlyle7029
      @morganlyle7029 7 років тому

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    • @Agallizo
      @Agallizo 7 років тому +9

      Did you said in the 0:42 Catalogne KIngdom of Aragon?

    • @IVANADAMAS
      @IVANADAMAS 7 років тому +22

      Many lies in this video mixed with truth. It's not the actual history. Please consult official documentation. Pro-independence in Cataluña are spreading a false history to obtain support from Europe. Don't believe this shit!

    • @LinuxWin
      @LinuxWin 7 років тому +6

      you should delete this false video and just leave the new one

  • @rabby77777
    @rabby77777 7 років тому +698

    I DIDNT REALISE PORTUGAL HAD A OLD MANS FACE AS A COUNTRY

    • @paulozhan
      @paulozhan 7 років тому +5

      I thought that was Australia!

    • @grapetree7219
      @grapetree7219 7 років тому +5

      I can see a old man face with an weed Africa hairstyle. lol

    • @grapetree7219
      @grapetree7219 7 років тому +2

      Mr Portugal is a old man with a Afro hairstyle coloured in weed spray. lol

    • @grapetree7219
      @grapetree7219 7 років тому

      Mr Portugal have a Afro hairstyle coloured in weed spray lol

    • @chrisoghenetegamaloney5799
      @chrisoghenetegamaloney5799 7 років тому

      +Rafael TV Italy is what? Nigeria is feminine..

  • @90kuky
    @90kuky 7 років тому +655

    I just noticed that Portugal is shaped like human face looking to left while Spain like his hair :D

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +75

      haha, it does. Good description

    • @riki4644
      @riki4644 4 роки тому +17

      Thanks fuck you\

    • @egillskallagrimson5879
      @egillskallagrimson5879 4 роки тому +2

      And if you look to the right is the face of Elvis The King, with Valencia as his nose ans Catalunya as his toupee xDDD

    • @jorgeh.r9879
      @jorgeh.r9879 3 роки тому +1

      Haha yeah. Us Iberians think about it all the time.

    • @BingusBongus362
      @BingusBongus362 3 роки тому

      Yo bro it actually does

  • @mortystation
    @mortystation 7 років тому +323

    I am from Spain, I know my country´s histoyry, and few important things that are told in this video are not true. I will list some.
    1- Castilla y Leon didnt exist as a kingdom. Castilla and Leon were 2 different kingdoms that once united took the name of the first one, even if people from Leon dont like the fact. Castilla y Leon is the new name of a big region (comunidad) in the northern half part of Spain.
    2- Aragon was not a Catalan kingdom. Catalonia was a very important piece of Aragon at that time. The duke of Catalonia got married with an Aragon princess, thus, becoming the king of Aragon. The king was catalan, right, but the nature of the kingdom, with 500 years of hisory at that time didn´t change at all. Their son and succesor was Fernando of Aragon, and this guy was born, like most kings of Aragon, in Zaragoza , Aragon´s capital, which is completely out of Catalonia.Think that even different language (fabla) was been talked in Zaragoza; different than catalan or castellano, and remained like this for many many years.
    4-This is not false, but it would be nice if you explain that, in Spain, the money produced by every single region is redistributed to try to equalize the economy of all these regions. The region with the higuest deficit (paid taxes - incomes) is Madrid, followed by Catalonia and Vaskland. In Catalonia taxes are the same, but less money is sent back, in benefit of poorer regions. So the rest of Spain do not benifit from this, only few regions.

    • @heinrichvonhachtenbuchler3167
      @heinrichvonhachtenbuchler3167 5 років тому +33

      4: Same crap as in whole Europa as well as in my country Germany. I never understood why countries, states or cities that are managed well and therefore have a good economy should be punished by receiving less money.
      Instead of forcing the less productive parts to advance their management, they are encouraged to keep their bad management because they are going to get subventions.
      But I suppose I am quite alone in Europe with finding these socialist concepts wrong.
      But I am not surprised about this conflict.

    • @Undecim33
      @Undecim33 5 років тому +3

      kieran carpenter Mexico, Netherlands....and Hispaniola, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Philippines, Colombia, Venezuela, Perú, chile, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Florida, etc etc etc

    • @RealCanio
      @RealCanio 5 років тому

      Good history 👌

    • @TheAbsoluteLiimon
      @TheAbsoluteLiimon 5 років тому +8

      Hee............... en el punto 4 te has jartado un poquito, el corralito vasco eso no lo mencionas no? lo de que cotizan más por el hecho de nacer ahi, eso no verdad? Y si hablas de financiación y de regiones que ponen mucho más de lo que reciben podrias hablar de Valencia que tenemos los presupuesto más ridiculos de España.

    • @wootoo6304
      @wootoo6304 5 років тому +9

      Marcos Torroba, Good explanation, thanks for that. The video always talk about “Catalans“ and not “independents catalans” , people must know that lees than the half of catalans are supporting the Independence movement and its because of that is a big conflict. The minority (the independents) are forcing the situation

  • @thesoulofthemachine9371
    @thesoulofthemachine9371 7 років тому +132

    Hello, as a Catalan I must say the information given here it is not accurate at all. Firstly, there was no Catalan kingdom but only Aragon; Catalonia was a region of the Crown of Aragon and had its own local aristocracy and law. Secondly, Aragon was not conquered but "aqcuired" by Castilla as a result of aristocracy business. I'm sad to admit that Catalonia has no historical reasons to split for Spain. Please review your sources.

    • @DerAua
      @DerAua 5 років тому +11

      Their might not be historical reasons. There are cultural ones today though. The Carolinians are a different culture than the Spanish. They can only survive as a unified whole. If the people gets replaced as per the EU plan by welfare migrants you will lose all these advantages and you province will turn into one of the "shithole" countries. I wish you good luck, however. Even though we may disagree.

    • @bilbohob7179
      @bilbohob7179 5 років тому +23

      @Jim Morrison
      Sorry, Barcelona fight was for an spanish king, and the enemy was another spanish king. Sucession war or civil war (european war??)... not spain vs catalonia...

    • @imgonewiththewindfab
      @imgonewiththewindfab 5 років тому +5

      It was not labelled as Catalan .. Look at the screen its Aragon...

    • @selaud3229
      @selaud3229 5 років тому +4

      @@imgonewiththewindfab the only autonomous community that has rights for independence is the Basque country tbh

    • @annadrift4
      @annadrift4 5 років тому +6

      @@DerAua Laughably poor excuse. Every country has a variety of culture and dialect/language variety. Spain has as many distinct regions, cultures, language differences as much larger countries in a smaller space. To think of Spain as uniform outside of Catalunya is a mistake. From Galicia to Andalusia is very different. (This video misses that some regions are still sore that Franco repressed variety in favor of uniformity. The generations that experienced this are dead or dying so you could almost say it's second hand feelings.) Perpetuating stereotypes and propaganda is not helpful. Catalunya is not anymore "hardworking" than the rest of Spain. It benefits from geographic and economical advantages. Much like states where city centres produce more economic opportunities and therefore more taxes, which are then disturbed where needed most like in more rural areas to boast education, public works, jobs, ect. This is how you create a strong country where everyone has equal opportunities, less draining of parts of the country to flood urban centres, and how not to create basically a peasant class.

  • @dvderif
    @dvderif 7 років тому +170

    Most people don't believe me when i say Portugal is a must older country than Spain. People just assume that became his own state, like Catalonia is trying to do. In truth Portugal was already a country when the rest of the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms. Portugal as a country dates back to 1143. Spain only became a country in 1516.

    • @jabasto
      @jabasto 7 років тому +2

      I believe you.

    • @dvderif
      @dvderif 7 років тому +21

      Like it said, the Iberian peninsula was divided in several different kingdoms each one with their own king, flag, army and language, Portugal being one of them, like Leon. Spain didn't existed until 1516. This doesn't has to upset you. It's just history.

    • @dvderif
      @dvderif 7 років тому +19

      The "Visigoth Kingdom", also included the southwestern of France and that has nothing to do with current Spain. And if we are going that far, Lusitania, the territory of what Portugal is today, was also a kingdom that existed, and that pre-dates the Romans. So, even that makes it older.
      But i'm not going all that back. Portugal as a country dates back to 1143. Spain only became a country in 1516. Period.
      Just because the word "España" - invented in 1516 - was inspired by what the romans called the iberian peninsula (Hispania) it doesn't erase the fact that the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms, with different monarchs, during the first period of the middle ages, and that Spain didn't existed then.
      If the European Union were to suddenly became a single country called Europe, that wouldn't change the fact that, before, Europe was divided in several different countries.

    • @dvderif
      @dvderif 7 років тому +11

      LjFJDhs - And Lusitania didn't include 90% of that is current Spain territory!!!!, but apparently, according to you, it doesn't matter that the Visigoth Kingdom had parts that are now France, but it matter that Lusitania had part that are now Spain... Where is the consistency in that?!
      The "concept" term you are trying to input is ridiculous. The Visigoth kingdom disappeared during the moorish settlement in the peninsula and that lasted seven centuries (Well, for Portugal is was only four centuries less since we kicked them out way faster). It seams you are trying to erase parts of history just to created this idea that Spain, as a country, has existed since 500's and that's not true at all! Spain only became a country on 1516. Before that, the Iberia Peninsula was divided in several kingdoms - including the moorish. Period.
      And it's obvious that you care about this, but it doesn't has to upset you. Like i said before: It's just history!

    • @dvderif
      @dvderif 7 років тому +5

      LjFJDhs - Dude, "Hispania" was the roman name for ALL of the Iberian Peninsula, not the name for what it is Spain currently. And just because the current word "España" was borrowed from that term, that doesn't erase thousand of history of several kingdoms, including the moorish. If Portugal was named Lusitania, borrowing the word that was used for this part of the peninsula - even before and during the romans - it wouldn't still be able to say that the country dates back to 100 BC. No, because our first king only funded what is currently our country in 1143. That's it. And Spain was only funded on 1516. You will find this information on any history book.

  • @aprado17
    @aprado17 7 років тому +265

    Hi - you are using the wrong flag for Catalonia. The flag with the blue triangle and the star is not an officially recognized flag. The official flag of Catalonia is simply the red and yellow bars, no blue triangle.

    • @LunchboxSandwich
      @LunchboxSandwich 6 років тому +21

      He is talking about independence so...

    • @baranguirus
      @baranguirus 6 років тому +4

      As an independentist myself... You have a good point there.

    • @aRodegarius
      @aRodegarius 6 років тому +4

      No, flag with red and yellow bars is the flag of Aragon.

    • @manuelrenedo8632
      @manuelrenedo8632 6 років тому +1

      Roger RoRo it's a similar flag

    • @aRodegarius
      @aRodegarius 6 років тому +4

      Manuel Renedo G It is so similar because Catalonia take it from Aragon, but it always has been the flag of Aragon

  • @AzulMistico
    @AzulMistico 7 років тому +98

    "Castilla" does not mean "castle".... that would be "Castillo". It just translates as Castille.

    • @theangel3232
      @theangel3232 4 роки тому +21

      "Castilla" (Castile) means land of castles.

    • @poliestotico
      @poliestotico 3 роки тому +1

      @@theangel3232 castilla is castilla

    • @imo6927
      @imo6927 3 роки тому

      @@theangel3232 No

    • @HBKnowItAll
      @HBKnowItAll 3 роки тому +2

      Castilla is the feminine form of Castle.

    • @poliestotico
      @poliestotico 3 роки тому +6

      @@HBKnowItAll Castilla no significa nada físico en castellano contemporáneo, habría que preguntarle a un linguista de Castellano Antigüo

  • @cokaorcola
    @cokaorcola 7 років тому +199

    I don't know if you have ever been to spain but the idea that the spanish government will let any part of the realm secede without a fight is frankly laughable

    • @dragonfly1929
      @dragonfly1929 7 років тому +7

      SPAIN IS IN THE EU,SUCH PARTING WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED BY THE EUROPEAN UNION ,ITS STUPID ,WHOEVER STARTED THIS IDEA

    • @MM-vs2et
      @MM-vs2et 5 років тому +30

      @@dragonfly1929 Or he just state his opinion, based on current facts that is happening in Spanish politics

    • @DP-qm6qe
      @DP-qm6qe 4 роки тому +15

      It's because Spain isn't a fully united country and there's lots of regions which aren't Spanish so if they set a president then Spain would risk disintegration.
      But arguably catalonia should be let go same as the basque region.

    • @anon2427
      @anon2427 4 роки тому +1

      ART DECO Eu Is shit

    • @Tomartyr
      @Tomartyr 4 роки тому +2

      They still haven't even accepted Gibraltar.

  • @adrianramirez221
    @adrianramirez221 5 років тому +55

    I know this is an old video, but "León" the Spanish region and "león" the word for "lion" actually have different origins. the region of León takes its name from Llion, which itself takes its name from the Latin "Legion," as it was a the base for the Roman Legion VII. later on they took the lion on as a symbol out of coincidence.

    • @HippasosofMetapontum
      @HippasosofMetapontum 2 роки тому +1

      lol :D funny

    • @end8316
      @end8316 Рік тому

      Cool “Llion” is a common welsh name

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 8 місяців тому

      Lies again? Changing Airport USD SGD

  • @henriquerodrigues7234
    @henriquerodrigues7234 7 років тому +22

    And my friend, you are wrong at one thing: "The entire Iberian Peninsula was unified" 1:47, that's kinda wrong due to the fact that Portugal, wasn't really, really, really unified with the kingdom of Spain because the kind Fernando I (II in Spain) told the Portuguese Cortes that we were indeed the King of Portugal, but he let the portuguese people still talk Portuguese, assemble the Cortes wenever the nobleman wanted, Spain would only have an "ambassador" in Portugal representing Spain.
    Sooo.. it was like the Kingdom of Portugal, and Spain, but at the time was Spain territory (still seperated).

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +2

      You are right.
      I way oversimplified that, to the point were it is not technically correct.
      I made an updated version of the video were I take that part out
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html
      Thank you for the kind correction :)

    • @WILLIAN_1424
      @WILLIAN_1424 5 років тому

      In portuguese that union is called "União Ibérica"

    • @hyperm8
      @hyperm8 4 роки тому +1

      its not Fernando, Fernando is a completely different king. Felipe was the one who got the Portuguese throne.

  • @KhallelaB.
    @KhallelaB. 2 роки тому +8

    Sir you just skipped over the whole Spanish Civil war like it wasn't important.

  • @hoselui
    @hoselui 3 роки тому +10

    The independence of Catalonia explained in 5 seconds: "we are richer than the rest of the country"

    • @xangarabana
      @xangarabana 2 роки тому +1

      Básicamente

    • @lluisbofarullros3223
      @lluisbofarullros3223 Рік тому

      +hoselui richer because wiser. Wiser because.... look at how behave majorities in Europe and why.

    • @hoselui
      @hoselui Рік тому

      ​@@lluisbofarullros3223 els jueus van ser uns pàries fins que van crear el seu propi estat a base d'ous cosa que us falta als catalans básicament

  • @danyamoros
    @danyamoros 7 років тому +114

    Catalan Kingdom of Aragon??? No, it was aragonenses kingdom of Aragon, Catalonia it was just a part of Aragón

    • @EnegeNG
      @EnegeNG 6 років тому +16

      I think you might have some kind of confusion. The king of the crown was Catalan. The Royal Court was in Barcelona. The people of the original kingdom of Aragon were the servants of the lineage of catalan "comtes". The conquered lands of Valence and Balearic Islands spoke Catalan because of that.

    • @JavierPerez-hj7rv
      @JavierPerez-hj7rv 6 років тому +3

      Daniel Amoros the daughter of the princess of Aragon married with a count of Catalonia, ever exist a royal Catalan family

    • @EnegeNG
      @EnegeNG 6 років тому +11

      javierperez Perez it was a royal catalan family as it was catalan, it spoke catalan and it lived in barcelona, they had catalan names, what they conquered spoke catalan, so yeah, pretty catalan to me. Following the same reasoning the spanish king is french.

    • @EnegeNG
      @EnegeNG 6 років тому +6

      Nothing to learn here. Nothing of what you said means anything. Spanish royal family is originally French. The king at one time he was French. Not anymore. Now he is Spanish. With the Catalan the thing is even better. Aragon had no king, and they married their princess with the catalan ruler. Peronela d'Aragon married Ramon Berenguer who became king and the cohort stayed at Barcelona. With all 100% catalan lineage. Learn history.

    • @EnegeNG
      @EnegeNG 6 років тому +8

      man there's no need to be offended. I don't make up things, this stuff is in books FROM BACK THEN and they have always been known. It's easy to find the references for that. I mean, I don't know where the problem is. I know spanish people has been told that catalans make up history to say that there once was a "catalan country". It didn't exist, and i don't think anyone believes it or thinks it is important. But credit where credit is due. The kings, after the union, were catalan. And catalans were the rulers. Period.

  • @madeiranmarvel2116
    @madeiranmarvel2116 7 років тому +222

    Technically Spain and Portugal were still separate countries during those 60 years... they happened to share the same king (Filipe 1 and Filipe II) but not the same Courts or borders. It was due to Filipe II not respecting what his father Filipe I had promised the Portuguese when he succeeded the throne (Portuguese running the Portuguese Court and being different nations with different languages) that Filipe II's reign in Portugal ended in a coup. He tried to conquer Portugal with the help of the French but Portugal defeated him with the help of English. The map should show different borders during those 60 years.

    • @rafaelmelo2576
      @rafaelmelo2576 7 років тому

      Madeiran Marvel Actually France helped us in the Restauration War...

    • @martinecrazyhouse6360
      @martinecrazyhouse6360 7 років тому +3

      And the Dutch supported the Portuguese as wel, they tought me at school. For their own strategic and trade interests, of course.

    • @moledo39
      @moledo39 7 років тому +7

      Maybe in Europe, because in overseas dutch and portuguese were bitter ennemies, specially in Brasil and the african territories of modern Angola. France and Spain were at war until 1659.

    • @AurioDK
      @AurioDK 7 років тому +2

      Yes, those drunken Brits .... I owe them my nationality, I feel the shame. :)

    • @joaoduarte_com
      @joaoduarte_com 7 років тому +4

      Madeiran Marvel also Filipe III :)
      I mean, our Filipe I was their Filipe II and so on. There were three consecutive kings named Filipe in our (Portuguese) history and four in their (Spanish) history... :)

  • @Adrarll
    @Adrarll 3 роки тому +72

    "Leon" in this case, isn't from the Latin for lion. It's from the vulgate for Legion. Specifically, the Seventh Legion based at Leon.

    • @Jessica-tr4ir
      @Jessica-tr4ir 3 роки тому +3

      In Portugal we say Kingdom of LEÃO (Lion) e Castela. We don't say Legião (legion) e Castela

    • @Adrarll
      @Adrarll 3 роки тому +6

      @@Jessica-tr4ir It's all part of the evolution of language. Close to me here in Wales, is an old legionary base that's called Caerleon. The first part is the Welsh contraction of 'Castra'. The second part is what so many ex-legionary bases ended up being called.
      The Romans have a long hold over us.

  • @bigozimak
    @bigozimak 7 років тому +385

    This reminds me so much of Yugoslavia, it is Scarry, because we all know how that ended. Madrid is worried with good reason, because after Catalonia it could be the Basque country etc. I am not saying they should not have independents, it's Just, once the domino falls, it's hard to stop. All the best to every one in Spain.

    • @doublegi2880
      @doublegi2880 7 років тому +46

      Well not really like Jugoslavia. We all joined Jugoslavia by our own choice and left it by our own choice and serbs tried to stop us from doing it. The only comparison this has to EX YU is Separatists on Kosovo rebelling vs Serbia.

    • @marcydarcy
      @marcydarcy 7 років тому +14

      this is not even close to the yugoslavia war-reasons back in the days.

    • @OmmerSyssel
      @OmmerSyssel 7 років тому +26

      Marcy D'Arcy Unfortunately yes.. There is several local nationalistic groups within EU. Corsica, Scotland, Flemish & what have we.. A united & stable Europe is better than several spoiled ideological hotheads running there exclusive agenda.
      Look at this nonsense going on in Catalunya, there is nothing serious to complain about exept romantic feelings. Which serious discrimination are they suffering from?
      Negotiations & acceptance could solve the situation. Instead ideology blew the fire

    • @sastrauch713
      @sastrauch713 7 років тому +12

      Michael Aleksovski Don't worry, this is not like Yugoslavia at all, the rest of Spaniards don't want any war, this is just a fight between Spanish government and Catalonian government.

    • @sastrauch713
      @sastrauch713 7 років тому +1

      Kat Wilson yeah Slovenia is nice

  • @G11713
    @G11713 7 років тому +12

    Nicely done. It is unfortunate that UA-cam now clutters the last portions of a video with links, often obscuring meaningful content.

  • @truedarklander
    @truedarklander 7 років тому +22

    "the vasque region"
    >Points Navarra

  • @AbiGail-ok7fc
    @AbiGail-ok7fc 7 років тому +10

    At around 3:30, you have an arrow supposedly pointing to Basque Country. However, it points to Navarre. Basque Country is the coastal area immediately West of Navarre.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +1

      Thanks, is pretty embarrassing especially because I have spent time there and I am part Basque (my family would be ashamed)
      Just made another version, (with my normal voice) was sick when made this one...was a bit raspy...hopefully is better :)
      tried to fix couple little errors to :)
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html

    • @dragonfly1929
      @dragonfly1929 7 років тому

      Half of the BASQUE are in FRANCE ,Pertignean ,will they also ask for otonomy ?Well no they do not have much of an industry there !EU ,is not supposed to brake appart ,if SPAINE will not talk ,BRUSSELS WOULD HAVE COME IN AND CRUSH THE UPRISING !

  • @rafaelmelo2576
    @rafaelmelo2576 7 років тому +16

    1:10 You didn't tell the whole story, because what happend there was that the legitimate heir to the trone, Joana (Daughter of the previous King), was overthrown by her aunt, Isabella, and because of this, there was a Civil war, where the Joana's side was backed by Portugal (while she was supposed to marry the King of Portugal, Afonso V) and France, while Isabella's side was backed by Aragon. The war ended up with a victory by the side of Fernando and Isabella on Land and a Portuguese victory at sea.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +2

      Thanks for expanding on that!
      I should have made a longer video, I had no idea so many would watch.
      Thanks for the comment

    • @teresamoore6286
      @teresamoore6286 7 років тому

      Juana la Beltraneja was
      supposedly ilegitimate

    • @geopixels6886
      @geopixels6886 7 років тому

      Rafael Melo
      *whole

  • @aB-of1nz
    @aB-of1nz 5 років тому +2

    It is not wrong to say that it was the catalan crown of Aragon since catalan states were the dominant in terms of military and financial power ; not necessary to mention that the dinasty aragon is catalan

  • @JoaoMariaNunes
    @JoaoMariaNunes 7 років тому +8

    we the portuguese , were lucky it was due to spain fighting the catalans, theyr army was dispersed and we regained our independance back in 1640, our thanks and our hearts , to them...GRACIES

    • @jorgealves8578
      @jorgealves8578 7 років тому +1

      Agora imagina que tínhamos ficado sob a regência dos castelhanos!!! Andávamos na mesma luta que os catalães!!!!

    • @JoaoMariaNunes
      @JoaoMariaNunes 7 років тому

      precisamente...

    • @JoaoMariaNunes
      @JoaoMariaNunes 7 років тому

      the spaniards roasted our best ships , on the stupid Invencible armada

  • @konczk
    @konczk 7 років тому +8

    "Linguistic Differences" does not even begin to cover it. Catalan is a completely different language from Spanish, or Castillian, as it should be known. In fact, it is much closer to French and Sardinian. Also, Catalan is Spoken in the neighbouring provinces of Valencia and the Balearic Islands as well, so who is to say these provinces wouldn't want to join an independent and much richer Catalunya as well?

  • @bapo224
    @bapo224 7 років тому +4

    The kingdom wasn't calle Castille y Leon because it means 'castle and lion' it's because it consisted of the two former kingdoms Castille and Leon.

  • @Digital111
    @Digital111 7 років тому +17

    Kingdom of "The Castle & The Lion" lol you could make a Game of Thrones-like show with the history of Spain..

    • @theangel3232
      @theangel3232 4 роки тому +3

      With all regions of Europe, in fact.

    • @n0309
      @n0309 3 роки тому +2

      well, george martin took inspiration from all this stuff. in the GOT world, spain would be dorne

  • @patfernandez8262
    @patfernandez8262 7 років тому +34

    Extremely inaccurate history of Spain shown in this video. Plus, tax distribution in Spain is not uneven only with regard to Catalonia, as other rich regions like Madrid do contribute with higher amounts to the country´s budget (it happens in most nations - not all regions are equally rich). It is true that historicaly, some regions have retained some autonomy with regard to budget distribution, but this is not the case in Catalonia (nor in Madrid), so there is no possible historical claim here.
    The shocking part is that Catalonia is depicted as the most liberal area in Spain. One needs to know very well a country to say something like that (not just check election results, which can be influenced by characters more than by policies). This is a mere judgement of the author, and will not feel right to most Spanish inhabitants (it would feel right to say Catalonians are just as liberal as the next man, though).
    I personally think there is a responsability when uploading videos like this one, and inaccuracies and opinions can be regarded as fact, which is a matter of concern, and may be interpreted as adding fuel to a fire which is causing unlimited suffering to us Spanish. If this is the case, I would suggest the author to be more objetive. Should the case be that this is mere propaganda, I can only say that I am utterly disgusted with the way truth can be bent in the 21st century.

    • @ilikedolphins3059
      @ilikedolphins3059 5 років тому

      Well u can't say that u we have no right to ask for independence.

    • @annadrift4
      @annadrift4 5 років тому

      Agreed and well said.

    • @Nora-vm8hz
      @Nora-vm8hz 5 років тому

      @@ilikedolphins3059 But there has to be a LEGAL referendum in the whole country for that

    • @guillem2039
      @guillem2039 4 роки тому +2

      @@Nora-vm8hz wich is also impossible because Spain is not democratic

    • @Joe--
      @Joe-- 4 роки тому

      @@Nora-vm8hz Demonstrably false. When Scotland is given the choice for independence; the English have no right to vote in it. Same for Catalonia. That being said, good luck to the Spanish in holding their country together. Wish them the best because they have a lot of problems to overcome -least which is Catalonia and the virus.

  • @alanschwartz7073
    @alanschwartz7073 7 років тому +4

    Thank you for the explaination. Clean and simple for all

  • @dolgy3762
    @dolgy3762 5 років тому +10

    Well, one could say that at the cultural centre of the Crown of Aragon was Catalonia. All of the resettlement to the south, and west out into the sea was done by people who spoke some form of catalan (Standardisation being non-existant and any language in that time). As they went south they brought their language, that's why to this day it's still spoken in Elx (Elche in English) although not as it once was. The case is the same for out toward the sea, The Balearic Islands, Alguer in Sardinia, and historically in Sicily Catalan was widely spoken. When we talk about the Crown of Aragon, we ought not be seperating, it's silly and it's not constructive. We ought to be talking about the great achievements made by the Crown and it's people. The Crown itself was a very unique country of nations that's difficult to classify what kind of government it actually was (more like a federation). It was also a medieval super power, and if you did business in southern Europe, you for sure needed to know how to speak Catalan. We ought to be celebrating an incredible shared history between Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearic Islands.

    • @cvetkoiztriglav2612
      @cvetkoiztriglav2612 4 роки тому +1

      That's it. They put the name and a Kingdom, catalans did the rest (simplifying a lot). And what you say about some sort of catalan language, it's just what happened with the rest of modern languages before standardisation, it's and obvious fact. There are bigger differences betwen modern castillian dialects than between the catalan language dialects.

  • @DiocleciaTeixidor
    @DiocleciaTeixidor Рік тому +1

    As a Catalan, I regretted Ferdinand to allied with Castillian. It is better for us to allied with the Moors back then. Now, we feel that our identity as Catalonian become distorted because of Spanish unification since it dominated over the identity of Catalan. You can see that some cities or regions that were controlled by Aragon use Catalan as their language and their identity, such as Alguero city in Sardinia, Italy. The only people that are really similar to us are the Occitans, no more.

    • @DhaarioHD
      @DhaarioHD Рік тому +1

      Well, moors are the future in cataluña, so you can feel better now.
      PD: look what catalans have done with valencia and our culture... That is TERRIBLE.

  • @songio77
    @songio77 7 років тому +18

    I disagree on the point that it's all about money.
    I'm Italian, I've been married to a Spanish Catalan woman and had my kid going through school in BCN, learning both Spanish and Catalan.
    I've had quite an extensive SpanCat experience.
    What I've observed with utter surprise in so many occasions (my wife's family is from Andalusia) is how much the simple existence of a Catalan language and identity is loathed by the mainstream Spaniards.
    Then, yes, there's all the rant about the money the Catalans want but that's a first layer.
    The core of the conflict is another.
    Long story made short: Spanish national identity was created as an extended Castillian identity, with some Andalusian and other regions folkloric add-ups. Being Spanish became intended as speaking Castillian, period. Other options heavily frowned upon or outwardly repressed.
    To be more clear, it's like if the English had offered the Scots not the merging into a superior British identity but had imposed them being just English.
    Anyone who has a Scottish friend knows how this could make him turn into a furious beast.
    Well, Catalans simply didn't feel fitting in that frame either and never have since. They have a distinct language and a strong identity that Spain accepts only if tamed, decaffeinated, subjected and marginalized to few fiestas with no more importance.
    Catalans have always answered no to that. They sense it as a form of cultural colonization.
    Spaniards have answered on their side with resentment, hatred and a huge tide of urban legends about Catalans committing all kind of sly iniquities and selfish injustices.
    The Catalans obtained an autonomous status as a nationality in 1978, with the right to defend their language and heritage but my experience is that the mainstream average Spaniard has never really digested that and trying to clip the nails of Catalans has been a profitable political stance especially for right party PP, harvesting millions of votes among all those that feel that Catalans are supposedly "breaking the country".
    Well, after generations of having to crawl hard to maintain their language and identity and after a very long series of no answers from Madrid, the Catalans are now heading for the door.
    I don't think that viable but I understand them.
    Most of my Catalan friends never thought about independence and now they don't look fanatic about a promised land or a holy mother country.
    What they most say is: "Que más podíamos hacer?" What else could we do?
    A far cry of frustration more than a nationalistic revenge.
    Solving the conflict would require not a new political pact but a general upgrade of the national image of Spain as a whole. Spaniards thinking of themselves in another way, more ample, more plural, more modern.
    Will that happen?
    For what I've learned, hardly...

    • @hugomarrero7438
      @hugomarrero7438 7 років тому +1

      Really, dude? You should talk with more people here, not only with catalans. And a Italian talking about a more modern image for a country, when you can see the conflicts and racism between north and south italians?

    • @songio77
      @songio77 7 років тому +4

      Hugo, I totally agree with you: the Italian national image is far from complete and maybe will never be. We have our problems and if you have suggestions, you're welcome.
      That doesn't prevent me to hope for Spain an upgrade that might solve the conflict.
      Let me just put it in the simplest way possible:
      The image of Spain as a modern nation gets formed in the 19th century (as is the case for everybody: Brits, French, Russians, Greeks, Turks, Arabs, whoever). That's the romantic starting point of all modern nationalisms (and we are all nationalists to some extent, since we all have and love a Holy Mother Country of reference).
      Well my question is: how comes that a certain number of your fellow Spanish citizens didn't, or couldn't, see themselves reflected, identified in that image?
      That's a fact. Some didn't find themselves in that national and nationalistic identity and referred to another identity as more fit to what they felt.
      How did that happen?
      All due to the invention of a Catalan language and identity that never existed before? Are you clinging on to such easy propaganda?
      For sure that Catalans did everything possible to nurture their nationalistic ideals (as everybody else on this planet, Spaniards included) but is that all?
      A husband and wife in crisis is never a one-way responsibility: it takes two to dance a tango.
      My hypothesis is that Spain (as a nation, not as a state that existed since long before), has been created on a monolithic self perception that badly accepts different languages or diversities and that's the ground-zero of the conflict.
      If you put up a Club Spain in your neighborhood and say that everybody's welcome but not ginger-head people, well, if you're lucky, maybe there won't be such kinda people around but what if there were?
      Would you spend the next 150 years blaming, insulting, fighting with these "f***ing ginger-head schmucks" and pretending they color their hair or, as I suggest, it would be better to just upgrade your Club to accept ginger-heads? What's better?
      The core of this conflict, as I have perceived (and for sure that I'm not 100% right but something right I am), is that Catalans never felt really accepted in Spain (unless tamed and "spanishized", like coloring the hair of a ginger-head) and as I say, it takes two to dance a tango.
      Unfortunately, I see now with worry all people rallying in the streets in BCN in a very dangerous series of happening I don't support, at least not in this way, but I see also the avalanche of hatred that has been poured on Catalonia as an easy vote-racking strategy of PP and others during years, I've lived it, I've seen it with my eyes.
      As long as both Cats or Spans don't stop blaming the others and start taking their own responsibilities to sincerely solve the problem, there's no solution but a traumatic outcome.

    • @filipvh6680
      @filipvh6680 7 років тому +4

      Very good info. As being Flemish in Belgium, I recognize the frustrations of the Catalan people.
      And I can also understand the fear of the rest of Spain for losing the region. But resolving to violence will only make it worse. I bet there were a lot Catalan that were opposed the indepence, are now changing their mind when seeing how brutally they were treated.

    • @josockal
      @josockal Рік тому +2

      Thanks for this excellent summary. I totally see it as you do.
      Visca la terra!

  • @josockal
    @josockal 7 років тому +7

    I believe this video is useful for non-spanish people and I congratulate the author for providing such a short but effective storyline. The author, however, misses a great point: catalan culture has been persecuted for more than 300 years now. People in the rest of the country do not understand why we use our own language and they firmly believe we should stop doing it and talk 'the real' spanish language. Instead of protecting the catalan language by taking it as part of the spanish culture, the government in Madrid has always tried to discredit it. That is, for me, the main reason why I will vote 'yes' tomorrow.

    • @payares164
      @payares164 7 років тому +2

      Eso es mentira, yo incluso me atrevería a decir no siendo catalán, que el catalán debería ser la única lengua oficial de Cataluña ya que el castellano es algo que se ha introducido allí de manera un tanto "forzada". El fallo de España como país es que no funciona como el estado plurinacional que realmente es.

    • @josockal
      @josockal 7 років тому +2

      Good comment, but listen about my experience: I am a native castillian-speaker, so I believe I am not biased towards catalanism. However, I can recognize a legitimate cause. I have seen many times how the catalan language is seen as a nuisance by the government in Madrid. I insist on the fact that the catalan language is not considered as a richness that is part of Spain, but as something that should be eradicated. In switzerland, the three main languages are official in the whole country. This is how other countries have saved the situation and I would like to see that in Spain. I would like to see the public buildings in Madrid having signs in catalan. I would like to see a prime minister that can speak two (or three / or four!) of the languages that are spoken in the peninsula. Unfortunately, that is very unlikely.

    • @j.p.3345
      @j.p.3345 Рік тому +1

      Exacto, el problema de España es que no hay unidad en diversidad, a nadie le gusta que le digan cómo tiene que hablar o sentirse, eso toca los cojones a cualquiera, si España dejara vivir, trabajar en unidad en vez de separar, los catalanes podrían sentirse porfin españoles y catalanes y andaluces y canarios y bascos, etc..una España unida por la diversidad sería maravilloso, el problema es que tú eres uno entre 40 millones que no piensan como tú y así está el panorama.

  •  7 років тому +22

    The Catalan Kigndom of Aragon? Oh my God! The Crown of Aragon! There has not ever been a Catalan kingdom. Not very well informed.

    • @bushnineleven375
      @bushnineleven375 5 років тому

      Thats cuz catalans do not have king. !!*!!

    • @RGNRK-rm1eq
      @RGNRK-rm1eq 3 роки тому

      @@rabote007 Aragon was a very old kingdom, it had more than 1 king

  • @robeeer2
    @robeeer2 2 роки тому +3

    You jumped from 1714 to the death of Franco (1975) and then say that the independence is just for money... From 1714 to 1975 Catalonia has been represed, catalans have been tortured and killed, like jews for the nazis, lenguage forbidden, culture forbidden, traditions forbidden, etc... This is offensive and out of touch.

  • @RickyPro888
    @RickyPro888 7 років тому +267

    Where is Andorra? #upset

    • @pedrolistacarey4880
      @pedrolistacarey4880 7 років тому +27

      Between Spain and France.

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 7 років тому +20

      Don't worry, Spain hasn't stolen it.

    • @manuellopaganelli9123
      @manuellopaganelli9123 7 років тому +29

      Stolen it? That region of Catalonia has been part of Spain since pre Roman times and many citizens from all over Spain live there and have been marrying with each others for centuries. Then have plenty of common things with Spain. Why would Spain let it go?

    • @ctfrancia
      @ctfrancia 7 років тому +7

      És als Pirineus :P

    • @ctfrancia
      @ctfrancia 7 років тому +6

      Catalonia is Madrid's cash cow, as many people see it. There are a lot of reasons why Catalonia wants to break away and there are still areas in the center that still have their facades chipped away from when Franco's bombs landed in the city, and Rajoy (and by extent PP) still hold many of Franco's ideals. Spain has the plan of just never talking about the civil war and still have a monument in Madrid dedicated to Franco and his generals.

  • @fredysonrisas
    @fredysonrisas 7 років тому +65

    Cataluña jamás fue un reino.
    Cataluña, actuálmente, es la comunidad que más libertades dependientes de un país disfruta de toda Europa, y todos ellos se los ha entregado el gobierno de España.
    Es la única comunidad de España que no comparte el dinero que recoge de los impuestos de las empresas afincadas en Cataluña. Sin embargo ella si se beneficia de los impuestos que recogen las demás.
    Cataluña en la actualidad esta régida por un regimen totalitario llamado El Govern (el Gobierno de Cataluña) donde adoctrina a los niños desde tempranas edades en las escuelas, y donde se hace la vida imposible a aquellos que pretenden, entre otras cosas, usar la lengua oficial del país, el español (castellano) llegando incluso a tomar medidas agresivas contra estos.

    • @doverclocked
      @doverclocked 7 років тому +9

      hay un poco de comentario en tu estupidez...
      la duda está entre si eres realmente inculto o simplemente quieres desinformar y generar odio hacia esa gente que tanto asco te produce...

    • @mariacaballero1689
      @mariacaballero1689 6 років тому

      Señor Kraw parece que te falta algo .... SE BURLA EL CIEGO DEL SORDO !!

    • @juanmagallego743
      @juanmagallego743 6 років тому +4

      UNA GRAN VERDAD.SI SEÑOR.FRANCO LES PUSO LA SEAT.FRANCO LAS AUTOVIAS HOSPITALES FABRICAS.MAS DE 2 MILLONES DE EXTREMEÑOS Y ANDALUCES MONTARON LO QUE ES CATALUÑA.LES COMIERON EL COCO A SUS NIETOS DANDO ODIO A TODO ESPAÑOL.TIENEN LA COMUNIDAD MAS CORRUPTA DE ESPAÑA.LLENA DE ENCHUFISMO Y PUESTOS ABSURDOS COMO EMBAJADAS...EMBAJADA PARA QUE????UNA COMUNIDAD EMBAJADAS Y EMBAJADORES Y NO TIENEN PARA ESCUELAS Y HOSPITALES...

    • @willyvidal3877
      @willyvidal3877 6 років тому

      FX Sonrisas desinformado...
      adoctrinado...o simplemente ingnorante.

    • @willyvidal3877
      @willyvidal3877 6 років тому

      Juanma Gallego si de cajon........ingnorante con adoctrinio.

  • @ociboje5406
    @ociboje5406 7 років тому +8

    Epimetheus, what a wonderful concize and effective explanation! thank you.

  • @indianarchangel
    @indianarchangel 7 років тому +4

    Excellent video! I had very little knowledge about the subject and after watching this the news makes so much more sense. Thanks a ton!

  • @satanas6740
    @satanas6740 5 років тому +1

    Im Mexican and I have a certain level of loyalty towards another Spanish speaking country, but then I remember how they killed the Aztecs and I hate them, it sucks to be half Spaniard and half Aztec

  • @TalkToAmanda
    @TalkToAmanda 7 років тому +7

    Thank you so much for this! I wish somebody would do a series of both sides saying good things about one another, even with this current situation going on.

  • @xeli3046
    @xeli3046 7 років тому +29

    I think I found a new hobby: news-binging...

  • @lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778
    @lordwolfgangjosephuskaiser6778 4 роки тому +2

    This video is great and I thank you for this.
    But it's to short because I love the videos that take their time to explain the whole history and culture of Spain, Italy, Portugal, France, Switzerland, North Africa and Mauritania.

  • @Joelas2
    @Joelas2 7 років тому +75

    I'M CATALAN,IN CATALONIA 62% CITIZENS,WE ARE NOT INDEPENDENTIST.

    • @isaacd4425
      @isaacd4425 6 років тому +15

      the results on the 9N votes state otherwise guapo ;)

    • @enzoac
      @enzoac 6 років тому +17

      Catalonia is Spain. Catalunya és Espanya. Cataluña es España.

    • @danieljimenezvelazquez3257
      @danieljimenezvelazquez3257 6 років тому +6

      Cosme Fulanito Correcto, Catalunya es España actualmente, todos sabemos mirar un mapa y decir la situación actual, pero que sea parte de España no es un argumento válido para no poder independizarse. Y así mismo te hago la pregunta, que problema te provoca que quieran independizarse?

    • @user-iv8dj4hw1b
      @user-iv8dj4hw1b 6 років тому +15

      Joshua Bufferson Illegal voting, not even half the population voted. It doesn't count, it was stated it didn't count weeks before the "referendum".

    • @manuelrenedo8632
      @manuelrenedo8632 6 років тому +1

      Daniel Jiménez Velázquez Que sea parte de España, por qué no es un argumento válido? Es lo que dice la constitución.

  • @shathasalih4567
    @shathasalih4567 7 років тому +7

    Thank you very much youcovered everything in 3 minutes . love it.

  • @panzerrjcb
    @panzerrjcb 7 років тому +18

    Looks like a chapter from game of thrones with the lannisters point of view...

  • @SuperLdennis
    @SuperLdennis 7 років тому +6

    Too Simplistic. You jump from med evil times to after Franco's death. you missed the Spanish civil war. Catalonia and Barca provided men and materials that helped stall Franco for 3 years and were persecuted after. Barcas overthrow of army was in fact instrumental in stopping the coups from being immeadiately successful as was Durrittis Column where 8000 militia drove Barca to Madrid to stop the Capital from falling in 36. That legacy like the Basques experience in the Civil War no doubt has got a serious relevance on current situation.

  • @pg-ux6um
    @pg-ux6um 7 років тому +7

    3:20 a bit more to the left 😅

  • @rachelsombo9045
    @rachelsombo9045 4 роки тому +1

    Catalonia was created by Charlemagne (Spanish March) the Catalan are more French than Spanish , Napoleon wanted to include Catalonia in France but the empire fell ...Catalan language is similar with French

  • @argentumtempestate9677
    @argentumtempestate9677 3 роки тому +4

    Aragon isn't catalan... learn the history of Spain. All begins in the "marca hispanica" of Charlemagne. That's the diference with Castile, who came from the kingdom of Asturias.

  • @Farto126
    @Farto126 7 років тому +9

    When appears the Khalessy?

  • @antonioperezcampos8066
    @antonioperezcampos8066 6 років тому +2

    I cant belive it, YOU JUST KNOW A SHIT ABOUT THE THEME.
    Really? The catalna kingdom of aragon?? That have never existed, It was just the kingdom of aragon, Catalonia was just an small part of it.
    In the war of 18century to choose the Spanish king , it wasn't Spain vs catalunya, it was half of Spain vs nearly the other half, and like you said, the chooses the wrong "team"... Then, you say that catalony have been being rich since the mediavals ages... And the only reason of this is because SPAIN preffered to put all his company's and buissnes there,like Italy in lombardia and Germany in the Rhur zone, so they aren't really the Catalan wealth, is the Spanish one, and to concluid, the mith of saying Catalonia gives more that what they receives is mostly false, its true that they produce a lot, but not because they work better or harder , just because like I said before Spain putted all his industry there, and that's why...
    !!!Catalonia is the part of Spain which recibes most of the Spanish wealth.!!!!
    And their regional goberment is also the second most corrupt goberment in Europe, so that is the real main reason of why they want to leave, to live in a fiscal paradise where they can continue taking illegal money whitout consequences...

  • @DavidJJames
    @DavidJJames 7 років тому +36

    I want a trained cat with a human face like that Alfonso guy.

    • @anaruizguti
      @anaruizguti 7 років тому

      hahaha yes it has a funny face the dude.

  • @rayunseitig6367
    @rayunseitig6367 7 років тому +4

    nice talk, Basque is interesting too. thanks much.

  • @AndyBakos82
    @AndyBakos82 7 років тому +1

    very good summary, short and to the point

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому

      Thanks! Glad you found my channel
      I made an updated version of this same video, you might like
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html
      Have a great day András :)

  • @europa_bambaataa
    @europa_bambaataa 7 років тому +6

    Uuuhhh, you arrived at 1975. Cool. But where's Andorra now, my dude?

  • @conni70
    @conni70 7 років тому +7

    the Portuguese are the only group of people in the entire Iberian peninsula to have never been conquered by Castille & Leon..impressive

    • @bigtuga4ever
      @bigtuga4ever 4 роки тому

      I think it's impressive Castille survived being our neighbor for so long.
      t
      hey were lucky to not have any spices.
      Otherwise

    • @DudeWatIsThis
      @DudeWatIsThis 3 роки тому +3

      Nope: Aragon and Navarre weren't conquered by Castille and Leon either. They were married into it.

    • @oier2995
      @oier2995 3 роки тому

      they actually have

    • @cs0345
      @cs0345 2 роки тому +2

      None of Spain was actually conquered by Castile and Leon unless it was Muslim. They expand through strategic marriages and state mergers through personal unions, which eventually happened to Portugal for a short period of time, so Portugal was ruled by Spain, but not conquered

  • @naufalawesome
    @naufalawesome 3 роки тому +1

    This is awesome!

  • @lacrudarealidadduele3308
    @lacrudarealidadduele3308 7 років тому +16

    Catalan independence movement: creating history since 1974.

    • @lluisbofarullros3223
      @lluisbofarullros3223 Рік тому

      +lacrudarealidad duele Hispanidad: castileanizing Spanish History since 1580s and still going on

  • @DreamerTrain
    @DreamerTrain 7 років тому +3

    His voice sound like any moment he'll say "That is how a Catalonian do"

  • @ers586
    @ers586 7 років тому +2

    I really don't know enough about Spanish history to make a useful contribution to the debate. I just wanted to add a bit of history that might interest some readers: a daughter of Isabella and Federdinand named Catherine of Aragon married England's Henry VIII and was the mother of Mary Tudor, remembered as "Bloody Mary" for her efforts to steer England back to Catholicism.

    • @RGNRK-rm1eq
      @RGNRK-rm1eq 3 роки тому

      tbh Henry the VIIi was way worse with catholic remnants

  • @brokenbutler
    @brokenbutler 7 років тому +5

    @3:18 That moment when you realise thats Navarra what the arrow is pointing to...
    How has no one even Noticed?

  • @multimeter2859
    @multimeter2859 7 років тому +42

    If it makes Catalonia feel better, I always release them in EU4.

    • @MCGodsGaming
      @MCGodsGaming 7 років тому +1

      Yannik both

    • @multimeter2859
      @multimeter2859 7 років тому +2

      Yannik I release them as France, after attacking Aragon.

    • @Peachrocks5
      @Peachrocks5 6 років тому

      I actually have only one tagged with one nation. Yup Catalonia! :D.

    • @DerAua
      @DerAua 5 років тому

      :-D

    • @cs0345
      @cs0345 2 роки тому

      Waste of monarch points. Better to annex them

  • @mykhayloklen5194
    @mykhayloklen5194 7 років тому +1

    I think Catalonians are a nation without statehood, so according to the UN Charter they must have the right to separate and build their own state. Am I right in saying so?
    The main indicator of a nation is the language. If people have their own national language, they automatically have their national literature, theatre, etc. So, if one wishes to be nonpartisan having nothing at stake their, one should say: it’s none of our business, it’s up to the Catalonians to leave Spain or to live in the state of Spain.
    The most civilized “divorce of nations” I know of was in Czechoslovakia. Slovaks wanted to leave, Czechs had nothing against - and Slovaks peacefully left.
    I thinks it’s stupidity to try to prevent nations from building their own state - their own future. It sounds very much imperialistic - “stay with us - we know better how to make you happy”. But the world is full of different evil forces and evil politicians.

  • @cubbman79cubster37
    @cubbman79cubster37 7 років тому +12

    One thing missing from the video - game of thrones sound track

  • @josecarrera9106
    @josecarrera9106 7 років тому +6

    It should be disclosed that the reader is just an actor with a nice voice but he is just reading a manifesto. Obviously there is nothing wrong with that but the casual reader should know that this is just propaganda.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +4

      Jose Carrera
      Thank you for saying I have a nice voice! Manifesto...I wrote this on a paper towl...I think you are giving me too much credit :)
      This video in a nutshell is saying it is all about money-Catalans want more of it for themselves, Madrid wants to keep the tax situation the same...I don't state an opinion on what I believe. I find it hilarious I am getting so many angry comments thinking I am a Catalan nationalist because the flag I drew...or because I said the "Catalan kingdom of Aragon" Many people just get mad and imagine I am saying things I did not say in the video. I hope both sides work something out were they both benefit.
      Me Encanta España, espero que se mantenga unificado.
      But I do appreciate so many people thinking this was a paid propaganda piece without listening-I guess that means it looks good enough quality that someone would pay for :D

  • @carmifeberibe5118
    @carmifeberibe5118 2 роки тому +1

    This vlog enlighten me about why most of us pilipino called the spaniards by KASTILA which is derive from the old kingdom of CATILLA Y LEON OF ISABELLA. And according to my grandmother when the time was philippines is colony of spain the language that the spaniards spoke is castilian which some of it spoke of us today.

  • @LordAini
    @LordAini 7 років тому +6

    Make Europe Feudal Again!

  • @ottomanmapper3502
    @ottomanmapper3502 4 роки тому +3

    Support Catalonia from Turkey

  • @drbonnyrodrigues
    @drbonnyrodrigues 7 років тому +1

    Very well explained sir

  • @gonzalovicente330
    @gonzalovicente330 7 років тому +4

    You said catalan kindom of Aragon. But thats not right. Aragon was a kindom, and catalan was only on county inside that kindom. Catalan was important as it got economical importance, but no more than that.
    Is just a detail, but Fernando never get goberment of the union of castille and lion, his daugther Juana I the crazy was the ruler but of castille, but she was controled by other people who fight each other, Fernando fought to control Juana, but he lose against the Cardinal Cisneros. His grandsond Carlos I of spain and V on germany hereditage the kindom of Navarre, aragon, castille and ganade on 1516 and then is when spain was formed as one kindom (still needed portugal to get the right to be called Spain, but portugal join whit his son Felipe as you say on the video).
    one point to mark, is that when they lose their rights, it was not only catalan, but all spain. The new Borbonic king wantet to take out the confederate kindom that spain was, so he take the priviledges of all kindoms not only the ones on the county of Catalonia (he coudnt take all Navarre priviledges, but he did in the rest of all kindoms), One point important is that to that moment, the oficial language was latin. He put spanish as oficial language, and that get Catalonian angry, they say that he forbid Catalan launguage, but its not that way.
    Catalonian havent being the most liberal region in spain. They got priviledges on taxes and commerce, for example, in the XVIII century all spain got to buy textile from catalonia and they where forbid to buy from other places, that take to ruin Galician region which where stronger than Catalonia. The spanish inversion on Catalonia was higher than in the rest of spain, making that other regions couldnt develop so well as Catalonia. So by, the spanish goberment, Catalonia had always got priviledges.
    Actualy I think Catalonia independence would be good for the rest of spain, as it would help to other regions to develop after taking out the tiranic opression of Catalonia.

    • @loboguardian2760
      @loboguardian2760 6 років тому

      Memnon que deu t'escolti noi!

    • @mercecieza9898
      @mercecieza9898 Місяць тому

      Condado de Barcelona estaba dentro de la Corona de Aragón que es distinto ya que junto al reino de Aragón formaron dicha Corona cuando por matrimonio de conveniencia se casa el conde de Barcelona con Petronila, hija del rey de Aragón, Ramiro ll el Monje

  • @leoneiraguerrini4755
    @leoneiraguerrini4755 7 років тому +3

    I watched the video until the 47th second when I heard the “Catalan Kingdom of Aragón”. That’s like saying the “Yorkshire Kingdom of England”

  • @williemoloney50
    @williemoloney50 7 років тому +2

    So nice to find a simple explanation to this entire situation

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому +1

      Thanks!
      I even made a simpler (one min less) version yesterday, with updated drawings and voice over(had sick voice when made this one)
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html
      Glad you found my channel :)

  • @DOMINNIMOD198
    @DOMINNIMOD198 7 років тому +6

    Soy catalán y quiero protejer mi cultura y mi identidad separandome de mis hermanos españoles e introduciendo una gran cantidad de inmigrantes económicos de oriente medio con culturas claramente incompatibles con la libertad de occidente, y dandole subenciones para que tengan hijos mientras los ciudadanos catalanes no pueden ni permitirse una vivienda de alquiler, a que soy moderno? Jajaja salu2

  • @palkap2157
    @palkap2157 7 років тому +4

    First of all, I would like to say that your historical vision is wrong. It does NOT exist a Catalonia kingdom of Aragon, but a kingdom of Aragon. Catalonia was nothing at that time.
    Catalonia does NOT pay a "disproporcionately high amount of taxes" but catalans get enormous benefits from the rest of the nation like industry, commerce and tourism, as well as the most part of all infraestructures made in the whole Spain. So, please, inform properly next time.

    • @mercecieza9898
      @mercecieza9898 Місяць тому

      El condado de Barcelona y el reino de Aragón formaron la Corona de Aragón no perteneció nunca al reino de Aragón

  • @michaelhalsall5684
    @michaelhalsall5684 4 роки тому

    Thanks for explaining this!

  • @MaxHohenstaufen
    @MaxHohenstaufen 4 роки тому +3

    That's the same old story: guy gets rich, all of a sudden he's too good for his old friends. That's very common in all levels of human interactions, sadly.

  • @marceloorellana5726
    @marceloorellana5726 3 роки тому +3

    Aragón was not a Catalan kingdom. So wrong. It was an Aragonese kingdom with a Catalan county. Get that right because it makes a huge difference. There was never a Catalan kingdom. They were inside the Aragonese kingdom.

    • @mercecieza9898
      @mercecieza9898 Місяць тому

      Nunca existió eso ei Condado de Barcelona formó con el Reino de Aragón la CORONA de Aragón resalto lo de CORONA por ser una y otro partes de esa CORONA de nada más

  • @BlakeMerriam
    @BlakeMerriam 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the education. Very much appreciated.

  • @Galimah
    @Galimah 7 років тому +17

    Catalonia is Spain and will ALWAYS be Spain

    • @bp4freak
      @bp4freak 7 років тому +3

      Only reason Spain wants to keep Catalonia is because it's a rich region

    • @randalthor1955
      @randalthor1955 7 років тому +2

      and maybe becuase there are millions of catalans who are, feel and want to remain spanish. Because its a rich region and it has a developed industrial economy its because they always have confront the central government and because they feel they can be autonomous. Its a materialistic reason, but it is totally tangled with manipulated history, old hates, and much much irrational feelings on both sides. I feel ashamed of how the nationalistic parties have lied to the catalans and how the official spanish point of view has treated the catalan language, culture and feelings too. Its a too sided pile of nonsense and wrongs. Too complicated to understand from outside spain....even from outside catalonia.

    • @RTI124
      @RTI124 7 років тому +1

      Galimah I'm pretty sure you are spanish because only a close-mind spanish can resume the situation in "Catalonia is Spain and always will be". Read a history book and think how is the situation. Because, my friend, there is coming a huge "party" again. Want or not, a lot of population is on the street right now and the things are going in a terrible way. Plus, this is making a lot of neonazis wake up.
      If you don't think that this could end in a civil war, you don't know nothing.

  • @joserivas6163
    @joserivas6163 7 років тому +3

    CATALAN KINGDOM OF ARAGON!!!!! Where do you get your facts, man??? Did you study in Cataluña or what??? Jajajajaa

    • @cvetkoiztriglav2612
      @cvetkoiztriglav2612 4 роки тому +2

      Well, it was de facto the catalan kingdom of Aragon. Aragon only put the name, the desert and a few goats. The rest was built up by the catalan people. That's why catalan is spoken in Valencia, the Balearic Islands and Sardeny. If Aragon were something, today Mallorca, Eivissa or València would be a mañico party.

  • @yoadrian10000
    @yoadrian10000 7 років тому +1

    thanks man for the video -

  • @pedrobarbosaduarte3704
    @pedrobarbosaduarte3704 7 років тому +19

    bullshit, catalonia it's the province who has less taxation in the whole spain, they are just the richest, that's why they want independence, because they think they will still be rich when independente, butthey are only rich because they gain money from the rest of spain -_-

    • @DerAua
      @DerAua 5 років тому +1

      They want independence because their culture is suppressed. They want independence from a EU supported replacement by millions of medieval Muslims. They know that when their people get dispersed they lose their unity and strength which is the globalist plan!

  • @IceBloodKing
    @IceBloodKing 7 років тому +117

    Catalonia is part of spain

  • @Carlos271aht
    @Carlos271aht 3 роки тому

    Im from Spain and you have not any idea of this. First of all, the Sucession War (1700-1714) was a sucession war between the interests of aristocraths. The catalan rich people feared loosing their privileges (fueros) by the rule of the bourbon dinasty (centralist). And it was not Catalonia vs Spain 🤣 It was the Aragon Crown, Portugal, Austria, England, and Sacry-Roman Empire vs Castile, Navarre, France and Bourgogne. It was a war between dinastic interests, not a civil war. The independence movements saw their birth in the earlys 1900. When the catalan aristocracy loose its power because of the lost colonies of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas in the USA-Spanish War (1895-1898) when they loose their bussiness in the colonies and tried to protest for more privileges. Today, the independence movement is charactered in the Pujol family, which is one of the most corrupted family in the History of Spain, still today anyone knows exactly how much money did they robbed when Jordi Pujol was the president of the Generalitat. Also, they control all the communications channels and Journals (Tv3, Rc...)

  • @Odyseja2011
    @Odyseja2011 7 років тому +3

    So as always it is about money.

  • @darkwolf1202
    @darkwolf1202 7 років тому +8

    A História dada em Espanha é muito interessante. Parece que inventaram tudo e existem desde sempre. Pena a realidade ser outra.

  • @cutefunnylemar2856
    @cutefunnylemar2856 7 років тому +2

    Pleessseee. you obviously do not know Spain. I am not Spanish, but I travel in Spain from North to south, my country has an invisible border with Spain, we cross to each country any time of day or night without any difficulty. I can tell you that Spain from North to south is a beautiful, developed country, with the most wonderful human beings on the planet. The country is just rich. You can live in Spain and feed yourself with leftovers of the fruit and vegetables left in the fields. After the harvest, so much is left over that people just can go and get what they need. In other hand Spanish people are very proud, and should be. I have been in may countries, lived in 4 and can say that Spain is the best country in the world. The poor have a quality of life that only the rich can afford in America. The reason they will not give independence to Catalunia has nothing to do with taxes, but with pride and History. Too much Spanish blood has been split to make ESPANA, the SWORD OF SANTIAGO, that's the meaning of Spain.

    • @lordcommandernox9197
      @lordcommandernox9197 6 років тому +1

      Lots of Spanish blood spilled for nothing in Portugal too... Some people never learn. I Wish every culture and identity their own freedom of expression. Spain wishes to call Castilian "Spanish" and abolish all other spanish languages. I'd be pissed off too.
      Spain isn't that perfect.

    • @rosered3920
      @rosered3920 6 років тому +1

      What movie did you watch? LOLOL

    • @DerAua
      @DerAua 5 років тому

      The reason "they" don't want to give freedom to Catalonia is the EU plan to replace the beautiful and strong Catalonian culture with uneducated welfare migrants.

  • @Peter-xs2mu
    @Peter-xs2mu 7 років тому +4

    You have a clear explanation, but the groaning voice gets irritating after a while.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому

      Was sick when recorded that one, had to edit out the coughs
      Here is one with re-recorded narration (normal voice) and drawings :)
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html

  • @jinetedelfenix
    @jinetedelfenix 7 років тому +7

    Well of course I would like all the money from my taxes to be spent on my fucking selfish ass, but that's not how taxes work. I give into the community and I am assured that my community is well, so when I'm in need, I get payback.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому

      That would be my preference to
      Well...history is full of conflicts over taxes
      hopefully with España, se hace una solución pacífica. Eso beneficia a todos.

    • @frontier6154
      @frontier6154 7 років тому +1

      The taxes from the catalans will be spend in Catlonia, not in their selfish ass. Woooooow is realy difficult to understan for a stupid person like you

  • @fueyo2229
    @fueyo2229 Рік тому +2

    One thing, in the War of Spanish Succession, not only Catalonia joined the Hapsburg side but also Aragon and Navarra, also some people from other places but not that much, and after the War not only Catalan was banned in administration but also other languages like Aragonese, Asturleonese, Basque and Galician. Also, nowdays Catalonia has the same as autonomy as the Basque Country and Navarra, which all three have their own police force for example.

    • @mercecieza9898
      @mercecieza9898 Місяць тому

      Pues no

    • @fueyo2229
      @fueyo2229 Місяць тому

      @mercecieza9898 No a qué. Lo que he dicho es cierto.

  • @timespaice
    @timespaice 7 років тому +4

    War of the Spanish succession end up with conquest of Barcelona but it was Aragon/uk/Germany/Austria/Portugal /Netherlands/Prussia VS Castilla and France.
    So ppl must stop spreading lies about Catalonia and act like it was a kingdom.

    • @montfrypan5904
      @montfrypan5904 2 роки тому

      yes but, when the brother of the Austrian king die, he goes to abandoning the war to go to reign in Austria and with it all the others uk,germany,austria,portugal,netherlands,prussia, leaving only a few Spaniards and most Catalans pro-Austrians only against France and Spain.

  • @lamc1463
    @lamc1463 7 років тому +4

    I LOVE SPAIN AND SPECIALLY MADRID....BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY FULL OF CULTURE AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE

    • @ilikedolphins3059
      @ilikedolphins3059 5 років тому +1

      Yeah he was talkin about catalonia not Madrid

    • @ilikedolphins3059
      @ilikedolphins3059 5 років тому

      I guess madrid is ok

    • @gemmasands4321
      @gemmasands4321 3 роки тому

      Madrit[1] (pronunciato en aragonés [ma'dri], en castellán Madrid) ye una villa espanyola, Capital d'o estato. Madrit ye amás d'a capital d'o estato, a capital d'a suya provincia y d'a Comunidat Autonoma de Madrit.

    • @RGNRK-rm1eq
      @RGNRK-rm1eq 3 роки тому

      @@gemmasands4321 No me jodas que hablas chapurriao.:0

    • @brunocarreiro7796
      @brunocarreiro7796 Місяць тому

      spaniards are rude and uncivilised

  • @OscarJimenez-up3pr
    @OscarJimenez-up3pr 7 років тому

    I cannot say this was a good job. Some inaccuracies are stated in this video:
    1. 0:40 --> "Catalan Kingdom of Aragon" is a wrong statement. In any case, it could be the "Aragonian Kingdom of Aragon", which can be divided in Aragon, Catalonia, Valencian region and the Balearic Islands (which were not included in the video).
    2. 0:51 --> Castilla y León is a current Autonomous Community. The Kingdom was only "Castilla" by that time (the Kingdom of León is older). It would be literally translated as "Castle and Lion" without the definite articles.
    3. 1:23 --> The Kingdom of Navarre was only conquered by Fernando in 1512 (not by Isabela, who died in 1504), supporting one of the 2 main families in Navarre.
    4. 1:44 --> Spain and Portugal had the same king, but they were not unified countries.
    5. 1:54 --> The flag used in Catalonia region is wrong for that period. During the Spanish War of Succession, the Principality of Catalonia was in favour of the Hasburg Austrian family, to continue ruling the Kingdom of Spain (against the French Bourbons), and they lost. It was not a fight for the independence, but on September 11th, 1714, Barcelona was severely punished.
    6. 2:45 --> "Catalunya pays a disproportionally high amount of taxes for their population size"... The source of this information?? First of all, Catalonia is the 2nd Spanish region with highest population size. Second, have a look to the Law 35/2006 about IRPF (tax per capita), to see the regional differences in taxes (indeed, Catalans pay a higher amount of taxes, as Madridians, Valencians and Balears do... but these regions generally have higher access to social services and leisure activities, and they follow the principle of solidarity with less prosperous regions).
    7. 3:10 --> Currently, the management of the Education system is shared by the Spanish government and the Autonomous Communities, being different on each region. The Basque system concerning the language is much smarter and more fair than the Catalan one, and that should be managed by the Catalan government (not the central government of Spain). By the way, the red arrow drawn towards the Basque Country is wrong, because it points towards Navarre instead (which by the way, has a very complex and well defined educational system, but more unfair concerning language issues).
    8. 3:50 --> Maybe rather Galicians that Andalussians.
    I hope you take it into account (you should check an average of 2 inaccuracies per minute). Thanks and regards.

    • @mercecieza9898
      @mercecieza9898 Місяць тому

      No sr una cosa es el reino de Aragón y la otra es la CORONA de Aragón que estaba formada en su origen y por la unión del reino de Aragón y condado de Barcelona y luego reino de Mallorca y más tarde el de Valencia

    • @OscarJimenez-up3pr
      @OscarJimenez-up3pr Місяць тому

      @@mercecieza9898ufff hace 7 años que escribí ese comentario jaja. Sí, es cierto.. estaban bajo la Corona de Aragón

  • @joaosilva2827
    @joaosilva2827 6 років тому +4

    Portugal 💪💪💪

  • @alexandrosaiakides4539
    @alexandrosaiakides4539 7 років тому +3

    l command you for your chosen name "' ' Επιμηθεύς".

  • @kosur7247
    @kosur7247 7 років тому +1

    we kashmiri people love and support you catalonia ....may God help u and be with u .... love and support from Indian illegally occupied kashmir. ...we kashmiri people are also fighting for our independence. ....

  • @bobanppvc
    @bobanppvc 7 років тому +4

    Long live united Spain!

  • @dimitrijestarcevic7480
    @dimitrijestarcevic7480 6 років тому +3

    Catalonia will always be spain ❤️greetings from serbia💕

  • @SkeeterMcTavish
    @SkeeterMcTavish 7 років тому +1

    BAHAHAHAHA you're trying to talk like the movie trailer narrator. You're so cool!!!

  • @uraharakisuke8
    @uraharakisuke8 7 років тому +3

    I heard untill "the catalan kingdom of aragon" there was clear you know a nothing. And im from aragon :)

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  7 років тому

      You are right
      I unintentionally poorly/incorrectly stated that in this video
      I made a new version of the video were I fix that...updated the drawings
      and a new voice over where I am not sick
      Thanks for the comment-and constructive criticism
      Have a lovely day :)
      ua-cam.com/video/xlSQpC72zCI/v-deo.html