This man is an utter weasel, his boss is a liar, he promised not to touch the winter fuel allowance in his pre election speeches. The UK state pension is the lowest in the EU by HALF or even less. Even the Greek pension is twice as high as ours! Meanwhile MPs are happy to take £1,000s in their own heating allowances.
Yes that really irk's me that they are over the limit but still take their heating allowance for Second homes and the next over the top pay rise. No scruples .
Your pensioners are in the same boat as here in South Africa. Here some pensioners can't even effort food. They buy dog and cat food and most of the time they are without water and electricity 😢
If the black hole is real then there is no money to send overseas and yet the government has committed to do so. The needs of British people must be prioritised over overseas. This man had absolutely no impathy towards pensioners and therefore not fit for office imo
@@bogbrush999 You don't understand that the governments first priority is the people of this country. If you look at these chart that was on the back of your tax paperwork a larger % of tax page went on foreign aid than went to the EU where at least we got some return. Once the money goes to these countries we have no control of how much is syphoned off.
@@IeuanBevan. The 6th richest country in the world could cope with both were the will to do so in play. Let the immigrants work, then tax them appropriately & both problems are sorted: the govt would have some money to meet the needs of the elderly without having to face up to taxing the rich as they should.
FAR TOO WELL PAID £190.000 PER YEARS FOR WHAT EXACTLY, £40.000 AMPLE ESPECIALY NOW IN TRAINING. FOR WHAT?? AND HOW MUCH OFFSHORE EXTRAS FOR FARAGES VERMIN??
Shame you didn't ask why pensioners have to suffer, when illegal immigrants who never have and never will contribute to the system, get put up in hotels etc all paid for by the British taxpayer Will they be cold this winter ????
Starmer and the Labour government should be ashamed of themselves.Why not make your difficult decisions and tax the energy companies instead? they’ve more money than the pensioners. They are making millions. Shame on you all. 😡
Energy companies DO get taxed. What would be better is to reduce the £10 billion pounds in overseas aid EACH year to countries like Ethiopia, Nigeria and Malawi and Zimbabwe and India amongst many other corrupt governments. I'm not saying stop it just reduce it by one or two billion.
@Cate6893 You seem to leave out that they also had many years to save and prepare for old age instead of relying on others or the Government to do it for them, we all have choices through life and we all know old age is coming.
Nah, they should be celebrated. Moving to means tested hand outs is the way forward. Maybe if pensioners hadn't voted for Brexit and 14 years of Tory chaos we wouldn't be in a situation where things like this are taken from them. I applaud Labours decision.
They give it to people with addiction problems so why is it not taken from them or take away the methadone that costs billions and doesn’t work give the pensioners there heating allowance they need it most them and children need it first
Money/NHS/Dentist/food/hotel accommodation or free home/for the illegals...that alone would pay off all deficits. Time they woke up and did the right thing.@@lloydnaylor6113
That’s less than 1k/m when MP’s say they need 2nd jobs because 90k is not enough to live off! And they write off thousands in expenses as well! It’s disgusting
@@MaureenWhybrow I worked as a bus driver through the Pandemic and didn't take the so called Vaccine. I didn't take one day off although some colleagues who took the so called Vaccine were taking weeks off with Covid ????
I'll be honest I'm not the biggest fan of Susanna but she has handled this issue brilliantly. I love her outrage and I totally empathise with the pensioners this will affect.
As a 90year old pensioner with Asthma ,COPD and a pace maker I have to keep warm ,otherwise I will die of cold I am over the threshold for credit so I won’t get the fuel allowance ,they don’t realize the implications of their actions .
STOLEN RESOURCES FROM SCOTLAND ARE REALLY HANDY FOR SOMETHING CALLED BRITISH ENERGY! IN ENGLAND ALL FIGHTING OVER WHO CAN MAKE THE MOST MONEY OUT OF SCOTLAND ! ALREADY FOR THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND,S WATER, ARE THEIR JOKES ABOUT WEATHER NOW EXAUSTED!?? ARE THESE PRIVATE SCAMMERS, GOING TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO SUPPLY WATER FIT TO DRINK!??
My mum is 90 with Alzheimer's, she receives a total of £1,000 every 4 weeks in total (everything) we pay £500 every 4 weeks for social care out of that money. She now has to fully pay her TV License even though she is partially blind and partially deaf, but worse of all as her late husband who served on HMS Nigeria in WW2 on the Artic runs and died and left her slightly over the savings limit, (which she refuses to spend on principle by the way he was 99 when he passed) she gets no pension creditor any other benefit, so she now also loses the £500 winter fuel allowance. Goodness when her husband shivered in the Artic and risked his life, he really thought his Widow would be cared for in her old age, lest we forget.
She should be able to get pension credit and as for the TV license she qualifies for a free one, just go to their website and fill out the necessary info (You will need to upload documents such as proof of address etc)
Take away the MPs second home allowances including heating their second homes. Another is stop their freebies in the House of Commons restaurant. - no alcohol to be allowed on work premises!!; no subsidised meals; taxi fares and certainly no free parking. As in all NHS hospitals - if nurses have to pay full price so can well paid expense account MPs!! That will go some way to achieving savings.
Any Labour MP who votes to support cutting the Winter Fuel Allowance will undoubtedly NOT be re-elected if they do not find themselves recalled immediately after the vote.
That doesn’t worry them - they’re where they are - raking in their very comfortable and generous stipends for the next five years - time enough to improve their standings for better jobs - At present they’re not even accountable for results! Remember Mutt and Jeff the pair of Civil Service Parliamentary back-ups at the Special Hearing on the continuing rise in population by illegals immigrants who had no idea at all of the numbers coming over ….Maybe they should ban the old song “Nice Work if you can get it it but you can get it I& you try tra la la!” As for government….and its supporters…they are only there because of the appalling results of the FPTP electoral fix! And their attitudes confirm it! Not a milligram of humble pie in Starmer and Yvette Cooper attitudes!
It will. Look at how quickly people forgot what Liz truss did to the country. Now the public are obsessed with this starmer rage hate. The British public have short memories they just hate on whoever in charge at the time
@@annbow4064I did that last winter I have an electric blanket..Only thing is,It created mould in the bedroom. I had to get it treated,not good to have mould especially with a heart condition. Otherwise I did cope,as blanket was warm and very cheap to run. I bought my elderly neighbour one..She was so happy bless her..
People in hotels from other countries will be warm this winter ! So sad this country not sorting our pensioners out ! Discusting there are plenty that will die with cold weather...
Typical labour. Give with one hand, say how wonderful and generous it is; then take back via scrapping heating allowance, pushing pensioners to pay income tax via stagnation of tax limit, take away free tv licence, take away single person ct allowance, artificially increase the cost of energy; then have the gall to gaslight the public to say how caring and magnaminous they are and we should be happy with the meagre rise next April. By then they will find another way to make pensioners worse off -AGAIN.
Said it before, will say it again: they're just as bad as the tories. It doesn't matter who you vote for, you're going to get someone picking the public purse and picking on vulnerable people!
Are u forgetting your last government gave u brexit, stole billions from COVID and crashed the economy multiple times lol. But your moaning about this 😊
Where has the money come from to support illegal immigrants ? Where has the money come from to give the rail drivers a 20% pay rise without any increased productivity? I"ll tell you where - it's the Pensioners who are the 'Paymasters' !
WHERE HAS MONEY COME FROM ANYONE ILLEGAL! THAT INCLUDES OFFSHORE, SCOTLAND! THE ENGLISH CASH COW! FREEPORTS! ARMS SALES! BUYING AND SELLING OTHER PEOPLES PROPERTY! THESE LYING CRIMINALS TOLD SO MANY LIES, HAVE BEEN CAUGHT OUT!! DOUBLE STANDARDS! THEY CAN NOT REMEMBER WHAT THEY SAID!!
Agree with him regarding fuel allowance .Pension credit.!It's a disgrace that some people will not get it .This Labour govt Has made a cruel decision !listen to this guest .
Winter fuel payment. I don't know what all the fuss is about. Simple solution: Either make the state pension equivalent to an MP's pension or an MP's pension the same as the normal state pension.
@mikecook1537 Being cold predisposes you to illness and takes a toll on your body, depleting physiological reserves to stay warm. It's rough for the young and healthy and it's deadly for the old. If you don't understand how old people are more vulnerable to environmental factors then you are mentally disabled.
Many of them will continue to vote in a rigged system, so nothing will change until they are educated enough to understand that none of these electable officials care about the people
A 1% tax on the top 50 families in the country would bring in £24bn. Winter fuel brings in £1.4bn. Why did labour not choose that? This man does not understand how the majority of pensioners live.
@@susanmiller14 conservatives had 14 years to do the same. If you're going to moan about any government it should be the Tories, not the party who have been in power for two months.
@@993Redveg Those illegal immigrants that come on those boats are put up in hotels and costs the United Kingdom £8million a DAY so yes, they ARE the issue
I’m like Rob, at 74 I still have to work full time. I am lucky, I am still able to work. It is those who can’t work who need the heating allowance. Shame on Labour!!!
My parents are in their 70's and both have medical problems that require I help out from time to time... But when we had the energy crisis a few years back I kept the heating in my house off so I could help them pay for theirs. Labours decision is going to affect more than the elderly and those who are still in work who are prepared to sacrifice for our elders may also freeze this winter. Heating is by economic definition a 'need' in the winter along with food, clothing shelter and healthcare... and Labour have decided that this need is one people can do without, thus we will see a higher death toll due to a basic need not being affordable for our elders this winter.
@@davfree9732 Well done and respect! The ripples in society Labour will cause with this 14 year plot will affect many families. My father-in-law lives more than 200 miles from us and has needed assistance weekly and now fortnightly. The talk of pay-per-mile tax for driving to assist him will take more money from us. I don’t think Labour will be hiring thousands of home help people for families in our situation. Shame on Labour.
If you worked hard and paid into a pension, you get no help with anything. The only people who get everything are the ones who never worked or paid into the system. It's all wrong.
It's also refreshing to know the state of the countries finances and not being distracted with other policies, all of which needed money that the Conservatives kept pumping into but achieved nothing. Being told that things are actually going to be tough before they can get better rather than pretend everything is fine. Just to clarify, it is not a right to live a comfortable life without a single hardship from birth to death. Believing that is purely unrealistic
Agreed. It is not "difficult" to punch down and hurt the vulnerable. What is far too difficult for the LINO (Labour-In-Name-Only Party) is to even contemplate taxing the ill-gotten gains of the rich. What craven cowards!!
If this happened in France,roads would be blockaded,farmers would spread muck on roads,petrol stations cut off ,but here in the UK, the FAR RIGHT just make another cup of tea ,it's pathetic
Correct.. ppl should do it in uk but they only go there screaming establish sharia law or criticized Israel who was attacked 7 Oct 23 by Hamas ...nonsense in 🇬🇧. 🤦
@@marigoldwhite867 unless your participating in a Left wing protest (such as a pro-Palestine march), or protesting against the white British protestors, or claim its for BLM, in which case your allowed to smash up property and attack the police and Starmer say its the right of the BLM movement to protest, of people defending their (non integrated) communities against (normal) people protesting about immigration. In those cases you will get off scot free most of the time.
The poorest and pensioners are also hit disproportionately by VAT, council tax, green energy surcharge, and "standing charges which is over £350 p.a. without using any energy at all. Over 10 million pensioners to be affected - but Labour have forgotten that most of those 10 million, have sons, daughters and grand children who will be less than pleased watching their elderly relatives suffering and maybe dying. This government is NOT working for the British people. Their only interest seems to be welcoming, sheltering and feeding people who have no right to be in the UK.They have just utterly destroyed themselves at the ballot box.
They are gabling that the tories will not have recovered within 5 years. The appalling reality is that they may be right - who wants the tories back anyway?
Proving that first past the post is a con to keep the status quo alive. i.e. more of the same dishonesty and lying that any government here is all about nowadays.
What a great government for the people somebody on ninety thousand a year telling someone on thirteen thousand a year that they have never had it so good and they are getting a pay rise next year if you survive the cold winter months
That's true but what they fail to appreciate is that pensioners are the parents and grandparents of their target demographic,and they will be held responsible for their actions in the future
@@cathmacrae2346 its true. I was brought up to feel how terrible Thatcher was because of her pole tax. It wasn't until I was older I was able to learn of the pros and cons of her premiership. and make my own mind up
@@James_Rivett I was told you'd commented on a post of mine. I can't find what you wrote so it must have been pretty awful. If it wasn't bad, repost it. OK?
Energy bills are higher not lower this year and the new triple lock does not kick in until next Spring. This Government is a disgrace. I am forced to continue working full time at the age of 70 because I dare not stop. There are plenty of other decisions that could have been made to fill this so called black hole that would have been far better.
@@lorrainesheridan496 I'm sorry for your situation, I wish you and your husband well but doesn't that make my point equally relevant. We all know we are going to get older and sicker which is why proper financial responsibility is needed to ensure we can survive in old age.
All you are doing is voting for what colour of tie the management wear, and nothing else. Meaningful change only ever comes through civil disobedience (for the most part) unless there is a larger driving external force prompting a change
Saying you can't strike is an excuse. Put a sign in front of your house, that's a means to protest. Don't see protesting to the level of Just Stop.Pil or in the recent riots. Those methods push people away from a cause. Do what you can and that is still protest. Being old is not an excuse. You have the ability to be online, organise a protest for others to attend even if you can't go yourself. Stop acting like a victim. BTW I'm poor as 💩 and work full time. To me, this is seeing some fairness being brought back. I pay taxes on a wage that hasn't kept up with inflation at all. I will be in a stone cold house all winter. The young are told to get on with it but it's the same suffering. I ask what pensioners did for themselves this year to not be so reliant on taxpayers and guaranteed very few actual made proper sacrifices to truly prepare for winter. I prepared and still won't have the luxury of heat.
Starmer is not drawn into tax on his Crown Prosecution pension they made a special law just for him, billions for unio s foreign green deal countries billions in foreign aid 8 million a day on illegal immigration
its £8 million a day on unresolved asylum cases, not illegal immigration. The Tories removed all processing of asylum claims. At least know what you're shouting at!
Instead of giving winter fuel allowance to people who don't need it why not raise the tax threshold so that low income pensioners and low income people benefit..win, win..
The second homes are required for them to do their job. Its so they have somewhere to sleep when they're in Westminster. Its perfectly logical that the government would allow them to claim back their bills on the second home as they wouldn't have thay expense if it wasn't for the requirements of their job.
The 'Black Hole' in the finances is the £8.6 billion annual payment towards illegal immigration! That is the Labour Party's priority in both costing and policy!
O well u shouldn't have voted in the government and brexit. That's 40 billion a year on brexit and about 40 billion that was taken by the Tories in COVID. So now you have to deal with the circumstances unfortunately. Your group also contributed
Why? They've literally worked all their life and paid their way. Should be more than entitled to it. But no keep bunging money over to the illegal migrants that haven't contributed a dime & continue to live the life of luxury in hotels at taxpayers expenses.
Spot on . Don't forget France they are payed millions to stop them but do nothing. We are a standing joke In the world that's why they all want to come here .
My theory is that they are 'saying' they'll do it (winter fuel allowance from old ppl) so that people get so mad that they end up saying....oh okay well, instead if we can't do that we will increase tax on working people. Gives them so called justification to do it
take the deficit from oversea support or cut the money spent on migrants! both of those, will more than cover the supposed deficit the labour government are so concerned about.
No offence, but the writing was on the wall with Starmer before the election. A far-left Marxist was put into power by ridiculously thinking Labourites just because they've voted Labour all their lives or my dad did.
This man is an utter weasel, his boss is a liar, he promised not to touch the winter fuel allowance in his pre election speeches. The UK state pension is the lowest in the EU by HALF or even less. Even the Greek pension is twice as high as ours! Meanwhile MPs are happy to take £1,000s in their own heating allowances.
of course he's a weasel. He's a barrister - equates to prefessional liar
Yes that really irk's me that they are over the limit but still take their heating allowance for Second homes and the next over the top pay rise. No scruples .
Your pensioners are in the same boat as here in South Africa. Here some pensioners can't even effort food. They buy dog and cat food and most of the time they are without water and electricity 😢
TBF Greece is bankrupt.
What an utter disgrace..I had heard that about SA..very sad.@@maggiecronje4796
If the black hole is real then there is no money to send overseas and yet the government has committed to do so. The needs of British people must be prioritised over overseas. This man had absolutely no impathy towards pensioners and therefore not fit for office imo
You don't understand international politics , do you?
@@bogbrush999 You don't understand that the governments first priority is the people of this country. If you look at these chart that was on the back of your tax paperwork a larger % of tax page went on foreign aid than went to the EU where at least we got some return. Once the money goes to these countries we have no control of how much is syphoned off.
@@bogbrush999 Doesn't understand economy either, because money overseas isn't given out, it's usually a "loan"
@@stevencharnock9271 Yeah and you honestly think that money was given out free with no kickbacks, don't you? 🙄
Don’t you understand? That is precisely the reason that he got his job - he’s employed to do what he does and he is following the party line.
There is nothing more miserable than being cold especially in your home
As long as the illegal immigrants have unlimited free heating, food, beds, even phones its alllllll fineeeeeeee
there is not being able to go out in the sun is more miserable have it both ways please make sure to have vitamin D in the winter months
Unfortunately there is - being old, lonely, ill, cold & hungry in your own home make a cocktail of misery worse than merely being cold.
@@IeuanBevan. The 6th richest country in the world could cope with both were the will to do so in play. Let the immigrants work, then tax them appropriately & both problems are sorted: the govt would have some money to meet the needs of the elderly without having to face up to taxing the rich as they should.
@@IeuanBevan.Quite right but we're not allowed to think that any more let alone say it😣
They could have chosen not to send aid to countries that don’t need it. We give our money away to illegal immigrants but not to pensioners.
Yes to them this lot is more important than our own who have worked hard and paid taxes for more than 30 to 40 or more years.
Of course no disrespect but then crimes going on by these!!
They say you can judge a Government on how it treats it's most vulnerable.... Enough said!
Stop picking on the vulnerable, first the disabled, now the pensioners!! This is shocking 😲
They are easy targets. They wouldn't dare target the Muslims, LGBTQ etc.
greay
They are coming for the rest of us next!
You get what you vote for
Children too
Dodging the questions again and again, I'm sickened by this labour government and its incompetence.
If only it were merely incompetence - this is premeditated cruelty.
EVIL
@@johnwilliams7653
Yes, it is WEF inspired and EU inspired agenda, relating to restrictions and cruelty.
WESTMINSTER HAS BEEN INCOMPITENT FOR CENTURIES. VICEROY JACK ALSO INCOMPITENT , THAT IS WHY HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT COMPITENT MEANT!
Did you vote them though?
just stop MPs expenses
Yeah as if they are going to do th
FAR TOO WELL PAID £190.000 PER YEARS FOR WHAT EXACTLY, £40.000 AMPLE ESPECIALY NOW IN TRAINING. FOR WHAT?? AND HOW MUCH OFFSHORE EXTRAS FOR FARAGES VERMIN??
They take money off pensioners, and today they announce giving another extra £600 Million on top of the £3 Billion given to Ukraine this year! 😮
Bonkers.
Starmer also made a donation to Italy on his visit! I don't think that came out of his own pocket.
But those illegal immigrants in the hotels have had their heating on even through summer. This government are a DISGRACE......
Shame you didn't ask why pensioners have to suffer, when illegal immigrants who never have and never will contribute to the system, get put up in hotels etc all paid for by the British taxpayer
Will they be cold this winter ????
Immigrants have ALL their bills paid for while they wait for permission to stay. Lovely warm homes..council houses and flats.
Just said the same thing.@@saminazarene6883
Absolutely not. Sunak dictated their accommodation had to be kept at a minimum of 20ºC at all times.
@@saminazarene6883 plus free bus passes and free taxi ridesx to hospital and back to their warm cosy hotel
Starmer and the Labour government should be ashamed of themselves.Why not make your difficult decisions and tax the energy companies instead? they’ve more money than the pensioners. They are making millions.
Shame on you all. 😡
2 Tier Starmer why don't you donate clothes to help them get warm since you got quite a bundle load from somebody !
Thinking about living in a SHED. Shame on Keir Stalin.
Energy companies DO get taxed.
What would be better is to reduce the £10 billion pounds in overseas aid EACH year to countries like Ethiopia, Nigeria and Malawi and Zimbabwe and India amongst many other corrupt governments. I'm not saying stop it just reduce it by one or two billion.
This is NOT Labour as we knew it. Shame on the NEW Labour party. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
pensioners had it good for 14 years, now they know how its felt being a worker this past decade
@@Solsbeary Shut up! I put into the system for 5 decades.
@@Solsbeary Not the brightest are you. Stop reading and watching the Daily Mail ,BBC, SKY News.etc
@Cate6893 You seem to leave out that they also had many years to save and prepare for old age instead of relying on others or the Government to do it for them, we all have choices through life and we all know old age is coming.
@@norman7527 I get the feeling @Solsbeary reads the Guardian and the ipaper.
well done Ms Reid for trying to hold this slippery dissembler to account.
Good job Susanna thank you for asking those questions. ❤
Every single Labour Party MP or MP that votes in favour of having the winter fuel allowance withdrawn should be named and shamed.
100%
That happens with every vote in Parliament
Nah, they should be celebrated. Moving to means tested hand outs is the way forward. Maybe if pensioners hadn't voted for Brexit and 14 years of Tory chaos we wouldn't be in a situation where things like this are taken from them.
I applaud Labours decision.
Ur right their let these old people have their money they deserve to be warm have a bit of heart ❤ mate
They are named lol up to you to shame them
Answer the question!!!! It’s cruel taking it away from pensioners.
The day a politician answers a straight question with a straight answer pigs will be looping-the-loop.
They give it to people with addiction problems so why is it not taken from them or take away the methadone that costs billions and doesn’t work give the pensioners there heating allowance they need it most them and children need it first
They did answer it...they've answered it about 100 times. This has been going on for weeks now and gmb get the same answer every time.
This cut for pensioners is peanuts compared to other savings they chose not to make - foreign aid, immigration costs...... etc etc...
Above inflation pay rises for public sector workers , junior doctors and £60k train drivers ,now £70k train drivers.
You think immigration cost more ... Clearly u have no concept lol
Miniscule
money to ukraine......
Money/NHS/Dentist/food/hotel accommodation or free home/for the illegals...that alone would pay off all deficits. Time they woke up and did the right thing.@@lloydnaylor6113
Pensioners are an easy target. They could have given £2bn less to foreign aid and kept the winter fuel allowance, this shower are pathetic.
Labour hate British pensioners because they have to pay them pensions. They would much rather give that money to foreigners.
£11,400 is f**k all these days.
That’s less than 1k/m when MP’s say they need 2nd jobs because 90k is not enough to live off! And they write off thousands in expenses as well! It’s disgusting
He’s getting hot under the collar absolutely think he can talk his way out of this governments treatment to all our people absolutely disgusting
I doubt many will be getting that much.
Train drivers who were on £65,000 per year were given a 15% pay rise.. its disgusting!
Imagine surviving the pandemic, simply to be left to die of hypothermia by a government you payed tax to all your life.
Yes so well said
I am so glad labour were not in charge during the pandemic, we would have been lucky to get any vaccine and many more lives would have even lost
Blame all those that voted in Labour.
@@MaureenWhybrow I worked as a bus driver through the Pandemic and didn't take the so called Vaccine. I didn't take one day off although some colleagues who took the so called Vaccine were taking weeks off with Covid ????
Absolutely disgusting
I'll be honest I'm not the biggest fan of Susanna but she has handled this issue brilliantly. I love her outrage and I totally empathise with the pensioners this will affect.
As a 90year old pensioner with Asthma ,COPD and a pace maker I have to keep warm ,otherwise I will die of cold I am over the threshold for credit so I won’t get the fuel allowance ,they don’t realize the implications of their actions .
Put your heating on ,what will they do cut you off ? ,I dont think so
Somebody help this man. Neighbours, put a couple of quid through their letter box to help out.
Labour could have chosen to tax the very profitable energy companies more to pay the pensioners fuel allowance. Wonder why they didn’t 🤔
the companies woule likely push the price up on consumers to cover the tax unless said price is capped so they can't up the price
STOLEN RESOURCES FROM SCOTLAND ARE REALLY HANDY FOR SOMETHING CALLED BRITISH ENERGY! IN ENGLAND ALL FIGHTING OVER WHO CAN MAKE THE MOST MONEY OUT OF SCOTLAND
! ALREADY FOR THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND,S WATER, ARE THEIR JOKES ABOUT WEATHER NOW EXAUSTED!?? ARE THESE PRIVATE SCAMMERS, GOING TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO SUPPLY WATER FIT TO DRINK!??
because a lot of these mps have shares in these energy companies
My mum is 90 with Alzheimer's, she receives a total of £1,000 every 4 weeks in total (everything) we pay £500 every 4 weeks for social care out of that money. She now has to fully pay her TV License even though she is partially blind and partially deaf, but worse of all as her late husband who served on HMS Nigeria in WW2 on the Artic runs and died and left her slightly over the savings limit, (which she refuses to spend on principle by the way he was 99 when he passed) she gets no pension creditor any other benefit, so she now also loses the £500 winter fuel allowance. Goodness when her husband shivered in the Artic and risked his life, he really thought his Widow would be cared for in her old age, lest we forget.
She should be able to get pension credit and as for the TV license she qualifies for a free one, just go to their website and fill out the necessary info (You will need to upload documents such as proof of address etc)
Lest we Forget . Kier Starman can stay away from the Cenotaph in November what would take him there ???
@@Hoffinator. 30+ pages to fill in to apply!!
Take away the MPs second home allowances including heating their second homes. Another is stop their freebies in the House of Commons restaurant. - no alcohol to be allowed on work premises!!; no subsidised meals; taxi fares and certainly no free parking. As in all NHS hospitals - if nurses have to pay full price so can well paid expense account MPs!!
That will go some way to achieving savings.
Simple don't pay the tv licence it's propaganda your paying for
I am sure these MPs will stay warm and cosy this winter.
2 homes no less.
Any Labour MP who votes to support cutting the Winter Fuel Allowance will undoubtedly NOT be re-elected if they do not find themselves recalled immediately after the vote.
Ours in Newham agreed to it😢.
Recall petitions need to be done.
That doesn’t worry them - they’re where they are - raking in their very comfortable and generous stipends for the next five years - time enough to improve their standings for better jobs - At present they’re not even accountable for results! Remember Mutt and Jeff the pair of Civil Service Parliamentary back-ups at the Special Hearing on the continuing rise in population by illegals immigrants who had no idea at all of the numbers coming over ….Maybe they should ban the old song “Nice Work if you can get it it but you can get it I& you try tra la la!”
As for government….and its supporters…they are only there because of the appalling results of the FPTP electoral fix! And their attitudes confirm it! Not a milligram of humble pie in Starmer and Yvette Cooper attitudes!
Both Warrington MPs voted to slash it.
Labour does not appear to understand that this cut to Winter Fuel Allowance will NEVER be forgotten !!!!!!
It will. Look at how quickly people forgot what Liz truss did to the country. Now the public are obsessed with this starmer rage hate. The British public have short memories they just hate on whoever in charge at the time
We voted for Brexit, so Starmer is punishing us!!! Am a 77year old grandmother!
What the heck was u thinking wanting brexit.I said it would be a disaster.
It’s disgusting the pm should be ashamed of himself and the whole government needs scrapping
ALL THE WASTMINSTER PARTIES ARE THE SAME. SELF WEALTH AND PROFIT. NIGEL FARAGE, RICHARD TICE, THE WHOLE SORRY LOT ARE IN THIS FOR THEMSELVES!
Jailed
I'm 62 so not a pensioner. I work for myself, work 50 to 90 hours a week. This will be the third winter I will be unable to heat the house.
You got some expensive habits then pal.
@@markrainford1219 Yea, Eating... Trying to give it up myself, waste of money.
I'm 64 only have part time work live alone, don't drive and have not put my heating on for years unless there is snow so my pipes don't burst
@@annbow4064I did that last winter
I have an electric blanket..Only thing is,It created mould in the bedroom. I had to get it treated,not good to have mould especially with a heart condition. Otherwise I did cope,as blanket was warm and very cheap to run. I bought my elderly neighbour one..She was so happy bless her..
The MP should hold is head in shame, I hope the people voted for him will remember this when the By Elections come around
...he sounded like just another soulless Labour narc. to me! The lovely guests and presenters..actual humans!
All labour do is play the blame game,they have taken the title from the tories as the nasty party.
Spot on he don't care. It's f u jack were alright
People in hotels from other countries will be warm this winter ! So sad this country not sorting our pensioners out ! Discusting there are plenty that will die with cold weather...
How come MPs can get fuel payments on their wages,but we as pensioners can not get it.
They don't care.billions for other countries
They made a decision not to send so much support to Isreal in order to save money...that is the opposite of what you're suggesting.
And will not tell us how much they are spending on keeping illegal immigrants warm, fed and given money for nothing🤬🤬🤬
@@LolaKatros-mf6ti you did see how much they send to India and China right? Never mind how much they spend on the netzero nonsense at home and abroad?
The Millionaire Presenters can't get their head around such poverty
@@LolaKatros-mf6tibut still send over £10,000,000,000 to African countries to buy wind turbines and solar panels for them 😒
The statement that 'Fuel bills will be lower this year', when there's a hike in fuel prices are due in October. Talk about being out of touch
It's purely lying.
@kevthegerb7066 that's why they are called LIE BOUR
The enery cap is increasing but the cost of energy is lower than 2023.
Typical labour. Give with one hand, say how wonderful and generous it is; then take back via scrapping heating allowance, pushing pensioners to pay income tax via stagnation of tax limit, take away free tv licence, take away single person ct allowance, artificially increase the cost of energy; then have the gall to gaslight the public to say how caring and magnaminous they are and we should be happy with the meagre rise next April. By then they will find another way to make pensioners worse off -AGAIN.
Don't forget the free prescriptions that keep people alive
Or the bus passes that a lot rely on.
Why should our pensioners beg to live?
Why didn't our pensioners prepare for their own retirement
Cutting Winter fuel allowance and at the same time giving energy companies green light to raise prices.
The government doesn't have any say over energy prices
Let's be honest. They, the government, want to bump these poor people off
Midazolam in the pandemic it'll be the cold this year.
@norman7527 yep,so crystal clear isn’t it?
Said it before, will say it again: they're just as bad as the tories. It doesn't matter who you vote for, you're going to get someone picking the public purse and picking on vulnerable people!
Hancock's already sorted that.
I think you have got it in one
Regardless of the votes by other Labour MPs, This will be Labours legacy. Never forget what Labour are prepared to do.
It’ll be forgotten in a few weeks
Are u forgetting your last government gave u brexit, stole billions from COVID and crashed the economy multiple times lol. But your moaning about this 😊
So your making it clear you will ignore ALL 5 reform MPs voted with him are you?
@@richardgodfrey3456 read it again.
@suzielynne9421 you should give it a go as Farage voted for it along with his tax evading pals
Labour have picked on pensioners because the majority of pensioners don't vote for Labour. Simple
O well .... Thank your last gover for this...if u lot didn't vote then in then u wouldn't be here
They are a burden on our economy because they are living longer that’s why they are targeting them.
Or they are thinking that a lot of those pensioners won't be here at the next GE
@@Carol_in_Spain that’s why they keep pushing the pensions back because they know some die before they are eligible to claim it.
Well, we definitely won't be voting for Starmer and Co at the next election.
Where has the money come from to support illegal immigrants ? Where has the money come from to give the rail drivers a 20% pay rise without any increased productivity? I"ll tell you where - it's the Pensioners who are the 'Paymasters' !
WHERE HAS MONEY COME FROM ANYONE ILLEGAL! THAT INCLUDES OFFSHORE, SCOTLAND! THE ENGLISH CASH COW! FREEPORTS! ARMS SALES! BUYING AND SELLING OTHER PEOPLES PROPERTY! THESE LYING CRIMINALS TOLD SO MANY LIES, HAVE BEEN CAUGHT OUT!! DOUBLE STANDARDS! THEY CAN NOT REMEMBER WHAT THEY SAID!!
Agree with him regarding fuel allowance .Pension credit.!It's a disgrace that some people will not get it .This Labour govt
Has made a cruel decision !listen to this guest .
Winter fuel payment.
I don't know what all the fuss is about.
Simple solution: Either make the state pension equivalent to an MP's pension or an MP's pension the same as the normal state pension.
Mps get their fuel bills paid for by the taxpayer.
Sometimes for two homes. The one in their constituency and the one in central London!!
Sounds fair 🤔
A brilliant idea!
@Jo-sp5cp no they don't.
Pensioners have children with good memories so even if alot of pensioners die this winter the children wont forget or forgive this labour government
@@sue2512 how do they die exactly? I've never understood this
Don't they call an ambulance?
@mikecook1537 Being cold predisposes you to illness and takes a toll on your body, depleting physiological reserves to stay warm. It's rough for the young and healthy and it's deadly for the old. If you don't understand how old people are more vulnerable to environmental factors then you are mentally disabled.
@@MCDONALD6969 Hypothermia!
@@MCDONALD6969 The heartless ones never understand. Your day will come though and you'll understand when it is too late.
Many of them will continue to vote in a rigged system, so nothing will change until they are educated enough to understand that none of these electable officials care about the people
A 1% tax on the top 50 families in the country would bring in £24bn. Winter fuel brings in £1.4bn. Why did labour not choose that? This man does not understand how the majority of pensioners live.
No! Labour just don't care
@@susanmiller14 conservatives had 14 years to do the same. If you're going to moan about any government it should be the Tories, not the party who have been in power for two months.
The majority of pensioners are well off.
That would require courage as the rich might fight back, rather than die cold, hungry & alone as widows will.
@@jamborino2940 The question ought to be how do we get rid of both?
Can you ask them to explain why they’re saying it will save 1.2 billion but at the same time we are giving 11.5 billion in foreign aid this year?…
They cannot justify this (choice) and will not admit it,Horrible people!!!!!
Feels like I’m watching the purge. Disgusting 🤢
100%
Yes it's a cull.
Started in earnest in 2020 , if if some people do not like to realise that
And while we all debate the winter fuel allowance, THE BOATS ARE STILL ARRIVING
The boats are not the issue - the refusal to tax those who are obscenely rich (and mostly from the public purse) is.
Spot on
No there a big part of this . They are being given everthing and our oaps have to suffer . R u living in the real world 🌎 😂
@@993Redveg Those illegal immigrants that come on those boats are put up in hotels and costs the United Kingdom £8million a DAY so yes, they ARE the issue
Yes! And I’m sure they are nice and warm in their hotels.
I’m like Rob, at 74 I still have to work full time. I am lucky, I am still able to work. It is those who can’t work who need the heating allowance. Shame on Labour!!!
Those who can't work and can't afford energy bills still get winter fuel payments. It's now means-tested, as all benefits should be
My parents are in their 70's and both have medical problems that require I help out from time to time... But when we had the energy crisis a few years back I kept the heating in my house off so I could help them pay for theirs.
Labours decision is going to affect more than the elderly and those who are still in work who are prepared to sacrifice for our elders may also freeze this winter.
Heating is by economic definition a 'need' in the winter along with food, clothing shelter and healthcare... and Labour have decided that this need is one people can do without, thus we will see a higher death toll due to a basic need not being affordable for our elders this winter.
Maybe you should have managed your money better throughout your life rather than expect state handouts?
@@jamborino2940 Maybe when you are pensioner after a lifetime of manual work you will understand how crass your trolling little statement is.
@@davfree9732 Well done and respect! The ripples in society Labour will cause with this 14 year plot will affect many families. My father-in-law lives more than 200 miles from us and has needed assistance weekly and now fortnightly. The talk of pay-per-mile tax for driving to assist him will take more money from us. I don’t think Labour will be hiring thousands of home help people for families in our situation. Shame on Labour.
More concerned about illegal immigrants and supporting foreign wars than looking after your own.
If you worked hard and paid into a pension, you get no help with anything. The only people who get everything are the ones who never worked or paid into the system. It's all wrong.
Naive of me perhaps, but wouldn't it be refreshing if government representatives sometimes said, "you know what, you're right, I cannot defend this".
That would be far too honest for an MP
It's also refreshing to know the state of the countries finances and not being distracted with other policies, all of which needed money that the Conservatives kept pumping into but achieved nothing. Being told that things are actually going to be tough before they can get better rather than pretend everything is fine.
Just to clarify, it is not a right to live a comfortable life without a single hardship from birth to death. Believing that is purely unrealistic
That would require a core set of moral values combined with an understanding of shame.
Sounds like every week under the u-turning tories - lead from the front not follow from the back
Why not reduce a couple of billion from the amount they are sending to Africa for their green agenda
They are NOT Difficult Decisions, YOU made them Difficult
Agreed. It is not "difficult" to punch down and hurt the vulnerable. What is far too difficult for the LINO (Labour-In-Name-Only Party) is to even contemplate taxing the ill-gotten gains of the rich. What craven cowards!!
If this happened in France,roads would be blockaded,farmers would spread muck on roads,petrol stations cut off ,but here in the UK, the FAR RIGHT just make another cup of tea ,it's pathetic
Correct.. ppl should do it in uk but they only go there screaming establish sharia law or criticized Israel who was attacked 7 Oct 23 by Hamas ...nonsense in 🇬🇧. 🤦
Well France taxes much more
It's true protest then jail
@@marigoldwhite867 unless your participating in a Left wing protest (such as a pro-Palestine march), or protesting against the white British protestors, or claim its for BLM, in which case your allowed to smash up property and attack the police and Starmer say its the right of the BLM movement to protest, of people defending their (non integrated) communities against (normal) people protesting about immigration. In those cases you will get off scot free most of the time.
Why dont you start a protest & why bring up THE FAR RIGHT?? This concerns all our pensioners!!
Will the government be held responsible for any deaths of pensioners.
how about stopping paying MPs expenses and giving money to other countries for this and that
well said Susanna!!!!!!!!!
The poorest and pensioners are also hit disproportionately by VAT, council tax, green energy surcharge, and "standing charges which is over £350 p.a. without using any energy at all. Over 10 million pensioners to be affected - but Labour have forgotten that most of those 10 million, have sons, daughters and grand children who will be less than pleased watching their elderly relatives suffering and maybe dying. This government is NOT working for the British people. Their only interest seems to be welcoming, sheltering and feeding people who have no right to be in the UK.They have just utterly destroyed themselves at the ballot box.
They are gabling that the tories will not have recovered within 5 years. The appalling reality is that they may be right - who wants the tories back anyway?
Proving that first past the post is a con to keep the status quo alive. i.e. more of the same dishonesty and lying that any government here is all about nowadays.
Spot on
What a great government for the people somebody on ninety thousand a year telling someone on thirteen thousand a year that they have never had it so good and they are getting a pay rise next year if you survive the cold winter months
If you don’t put heating on houses will get very damp and people will land up in hospital.
It's disgusting to deprive pensioners of enough money to be warm in the winter. Inhumane . Disgusting.
Because the pensioners are NOT their target voters the stabby boat people are.
That's true but what they fail to appreciate is that pensioners are the parents and grandparents of their target demographic,and they will be held responsible for their actions in the future
@@cathmacrae2346 its true. I was brought up to feel how terrible Thatcher was because of her pole tax. It wasn't until I was older I was able to learn of the pros and cons of her premiership. and make my own mind up
@@James_RivettAnd then you knew she was evil!
@@James_Rivett I was told you'd commented on a post of mine. I can't find what you wrote so it must have been pretty awful. If it wasn't bad, repost it. OK?
@@petergilkes7082 or is it UA-cam censoring freespeech as per Sir Starmers Marxist wishes?
Well done Sussanah
Energy bills are higher not lower this year and the new triple lock does not kick in until next Spring. This Government is a disgrace. I am forced to continue working full time at the age of 70 because I dare not stop. There are plenty of other decisions that could have been made to fill this so called black hole that would have been far better.
I am 69 and still working and there are millions of others
@@cafsixtieslover you're still working because of your poor financial planning. That's your fault, no one else's.
I worked all my life until 67 but my husband MS meant I needed to be home. We cannot always plan as you seem to think.
@@lorrainesheridan496 I'm sorry for your situation, I wish you and your husband well but doesn't that make my point equally relevant. We all know we are going to get older and sicker which is why proper financial responsibility is needed to ensure we can survive in old age.
Ofgem energy price cap 2023 winter until 31 March, £4,059/year. Ofgem energy price cap 1st October to 31st December 2024, £1,717/year.
Because pensioners can not go on strike for more pay like the rest of the rich workers of today.
We can hit them in the elections in May. If we live through the winter. Reform for me.
Why havent they been taken to task about taking money from pensioners but giving money to the economic migrants and illegal immigrants?
Pensioners have children and grandchildren and they will not forget Labour traitors
It won't matter by 2028 honey baked .Wait and see
25% pensioners are millionaires it should be means tested.
Not all pensioners have children, or still have contact with them if they do.
@@lewismcdonald9691 There's no way that that's true. You honestly believe that 1/4 retirees are millionaires? Where? Monaco?
Well said Grasshopper. If a fly flys around your head is it time for a shower?
Dodged the question saying the triple lock is still in. Never ever again voting Labour! I am so angry at Labour.
Why did you in the first place? There all the same.
All you are doing is voting for what colour of tie the management wear, and nothing else. Meaningful change only ever comes through civil disobedience (for the most part) unless there is a larger driving external force prompting a change
If you are over the age of thirty then you have no acceptable excuse for voting liebour.
What makes you think you will ever be allowed to vote again? Comrade Starmer wants to exert total power over you.
What did you expect
Defending the indefensible
Have no sympathy - the gravy train's dining car is always available to Govt ministers,
not to mention the gross salary, the perks, the emoluments...
He's awful
Give us the full breakdown of where the 22 Billion hole is ??
You have the figures and details. Let us see them.
£7 BILLION per year on ILLEGAL immigrants!!!
Pensioners are an easy target. We hav no union and we can't strike.
Saying you can't strike is an excuse. Put a sign in front of your house, that's a means to protest. Don't see protesting to the level of Just Stop.Pil or in the recent riots. Those methods push people away from a cause. Do what you can and that is still protest.
Being old is not an excuse. You have the ability to be online, organise a protest for others to attend even if you can't go yourself. Stop acting like a victim.
BTW I'm poor as 💩 and work full time. To me, this is seeing some fairness being brought back. I pay taxes on a wage that hasn't kept up with inflation at all. I will be in a stone cold house all winter. The young are told to get on with it but it's the same suffering.
I ask what pensioners did for themselves this year to not be so reliant on taxpayers and guaranteed very few actual made proper sacrifices to truly prepare for winter. I prepared and still won't have the luxury of heat.
Pensioners and motorists are both easy targets.
Vote them out!
Starmer is not drawn into tax on his Crown Prosecution pension they made a special law just for him, billions for unio s foreign green deal countries billions in foreign aid 8 million a day on illegal immigration
£8 million per day? And the rest. You can double that figure.
its £8 million a day on unresolved asylum cases, not illegal immigration. The Tories removed all processing of asylum claims. At least know what you're shouting at!
@@bobbailey7024 £3billion a year promised to Ukraine, the most corrupt Country on Earth !
Instead of giving winter fuel allowance to people who don't need it why not raise the tax threshold so that low income pensioners and low income people benefit..win, win..
Because the allowance ,now becomes taxable been used to pay the triple lock increases
Stop letting MPs claim thousands of pounds for heating second homes
The second homes are required for them to do their job. Its so they have somewhere to sleep when they're in Westminster. Its perfectly logical that the government would allow them to claim back their bills on the second home as they wouldn't have thay expense if it wasn't for the requirements of their job.
The 'Black Hole' in the finances is the £8.6 billion annual payment towards illegal immigration! That is the Labour Party's priority in both costing and policy!
I don't use my oven and haven't for years and I'm not a pensioner...
Same here live alone and not used my oven for years and not a pensioner.
There is a black hole in the public finances so why are we giving millions of pounds to keep the boat people stop this
And foreign climate aid
It's an absolute disgrace..
We are not the voters government is so big difference
And the previous government who caused this so called black hole should be the people paying it back,they are all richer for what they never did
Let The Tories pay back the black hole.They put us in it
why pensioners ? . why not the house of lords ? . stop the £300 A DAY attendance allowance and the subsidised food and transport .
How is it that they fu.nd somebody else's war when they can not pay for thier own people
Excellent discussion. My heart goes out to pensioners.❤
This should be the end of two party politics!
We pay tax on our pensions. He makes it sound as though he is doing us a favour. Most of us are over the threshold for Pension Credits.
but still poor.
O well u shouldn't have voted in the government and brexit. That's 40 billion a year on brexit and about 40 billion that was taken by the Tories in COVID.
So now you have to deal with the circumstances unfortunately. Your group also contributed
most of us only just over the threshold.
I am £27 over the threshold
Reynolds is squirming, waffling, and deflecting. Will not answer the question, typical MP.
They take away from pensioners because they have the least advocacy.
He’s my CURRENT MP. I’m going to stand against him.
Why? They've literally worked all their life and paid their way. Should be more than entitled to it. But no keep bunging money over to the illegal migrants that haven't contributed a dime & continue to live the life of luxury in hotels at taxpayers expenses.
Exactly
Enough is enough
Spot on . Don't forget France they are payed millions to stop them but do nothing. We are a standing joke In the world that's why they all want to come here .
All the Labour MPs have the same set script.
All m p s not just liebour
My theory is that they are 'saying' they'll do it (winter fuel allowance from old ppl) so that people get so mad that they end up saying....oh okay well, instead if we can't do that we will increase tax on working people. Gives them so called justification to do it
@@martinhill9261 DIFFICULT DECISIONS
All of them do...
How sad and shameful. The labour party should be totally ashamed. The saving stealing from pensioners represents 6 weeks spend on HS2 rail line.
Did u not know narcissists do not feel shame no matter what is said to them. Starmer and Reeves are prime examples of narcissists.
Turn the heating off in the House of Commons
take the deficit from oversea support or cut the money spent on migrants! both of those, will more than cover the supposed deficit the labour government are so concerned about.
Never voting labour ever again. Absolute disgrace!
You voted Labour did you?
You absolute muppet, but at least you acknowledged your mistake.
Vote reform next election🇬🇧
I never did and I never will.
@@IeuanBevan.Reform is better for our country hate labour
No offence, but the writing was on the wall with Starmer before the election. A far-left Marxist was put into power by ridiculously thinking Labourites just because they've voted Labour all their lives or my dad did.
For the first time I id not vote for Starmer and his gang
Could have withheld the foreign aid
11 Billion to Africa. Because it’s hot. Corruption. My blood pressure goes up and gives me anxiety listening to that labour lot
@@Capri-x8m You’re right. I did have 3 days break from it as I had a stinking cold
all MPs 50% pay cut problem solved
Of course we are going to restrict the use of heating