Great video, super-detailed! Question: where can i find the Class 3 Stabilization Fabric that you mentioned. Can it be found in the Orange or Blue stores? I can't find reference to Class 3 ratings at either big box store except for buying massive 12.5' X 432' rolls for almost $600. Probably works great for a contractor, but not so practical for regular guys like me! Any suggestions?
Alejandro, that's a great question...we buy ours wholesale, so it's not an issue we've faced. I don't know the exact class rating of this product, but glancing over the listing it looks like it should be sufficient for a shed foundation, especially if the dirt is packed well. And it's under $100. www.amazon.com/ArmorLay-Commercial-Grade-Driveway-Fabric/dp/B074MDB596?th=1
Many thanks for the suggestion! They also sell a 12.5'X50' size that's only $47, and that should cover my needs. I'll be installing on Thursday, so I'll try to remember to come back here and let you know!
Alejandro Vieira, the 12.5 x 50- was that “US 200”? Was it exactly what they are talking about in this video- the 220lb tensile strength and 90lb puncture strength? I got a quote (US Fabrics Inc.) for 12.5 x 50 and it was $99.36! If you got it cheaper, would you share where you got it?
I've been a builder for many years and have seen quite a fair bit of sheds. The plans in ryan's package ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxB7IXYxLzb_Ichhe45zM3Im5xfEiSp9vB have some of the nicest looking sheds i've seen in a while.
I think this is the first comment on UA-cam that I’ve made (and I’ve watched a lot of instructional videos on UA-cam!). This was an excellent video from all angles....clear, concise, documented, well-presented, appropriate accompanying video,....just a completely great tutorial. I built my foundation just as specified and it turned out great! Thank you so much!
I followed these instructions to the letter to build my shed foundation 3 yrs ago and it is still going strong after 3 Canadian winters I just need to periodically pick weeds out of the gravel
A video which is totally clear to understand & no wasting time gabbing through 3/4 of it all on how Co got started & etc. Very, very informative & detailed/ A great help! Been a long time since I did this type of work 45 + yrs , and a lot refreshed my memory.
I rarely leave comments but felt compelled for this video as it was everything a tutorial should be, clear, detailed and concise. Like others, the video gave me the confidence and knowledge to do the project myself and for that I am extremely grateful. Literally started the project this morning with the gravel arriving at 8 am and then a trip to the blue store. At the end of the day the is site excavated, perimeter fixed and rebar in place, landscapers mat down and half the gravel in place. This old man needs a break after that! Will finish this weekend with the foundation for a 10 x 12 shed. Many thanks for a great video, truly helpful.
Thanks for the comment, Stuart! It's great to hear that you were able to tackle the job with the info provided here. Best of luck with the remainder of the project!
Been watching videos one after another and haven’t seen any video as best or detailed as yours! Finally feel confident in starting this project for my shed thanks to your in depth video! Thanks!
great vid! I've watched 5 videos this morning looking for an answer about fabric whether or not you should bother with it. Your detail in the video is amazing
FANTASTIC VIDEO!! This is what i needed! I'm not building a shed, however what i'm building (platform for my 275 gallon IBC totes) requires this type of foundation. I suck at making a section of my yard level and have searched and searched for videos that explain in detail how to do that. Your video helped me understand how to!! So thankful for this video. Again, this is a nicely detailed video on how to level grade. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Hands down the best video on this topic that I've watched... detailed, and I like that you don't just explain what you're doing but you also explain why. Thanks for a great resource!
I used this video to help me build a 16x32 pad for a shed . The only issue I ran into was the different types of clay dirt and sand / rock in the cut out area. I had to take out 6 inches more dirt than originally thought and add a second layer of wood to level it off . I also used more rebar steaks every 4 ft 3 ft long to secure it in place. I rented the same machine in the video for under 500.00 . I added 6-12 inches of rock. I also rented the plate vibrator to pack the dirt and rock . The other thing is that it's a lot of work to build this by yourself. I recommend getting some help or hiring a few hands. My project took about a week to complete working everyday 8 hours. The cost was 3169.00 plus a few extras. I did most of the labor myself which was no cost to the bill.
Well, I was about to say how extremely thorough this video was ... and I mean it ... then I read the other comments. They all pretty much say the same thing. But really, other videos weren't close to how well done this video is. Thanks very much!
I've watched tons of instructional videos here on UA-cam and have learned quite a bit. This is probably the most thorough video that I have seen. It goes into great detail to give you all of the points you need to consider when building a shed foundation. Bravo!
Awesome video. So could you maybe give out a list of the necessary tools, hair products and any other materials needed? Any help is appreciated thanks man
Great video, thank you. I've been wracking my brain around a shed pad that goes down a mild 4" slope (door opens on the low end). I'm using 2 courses of 4x4x8 and 10 but this is extremely helpful.
Wow this is an extremely detailed video on anything and everything you would need to know. The problem is, it explains just how in depth putting in such a simple thing as a shed has become these days. Unfortunately. So now I'm debating whether I care to actually do something like this. May as well just build a whole new home while I'm at it, it feels. Shiiiit
I've watched several gravel pad prep videos for the shed I plan to have delivered and this is the most comprehensive. It's particularly helpful in dealing with a slope, as the location I have is sloped about 4" and I was not sure how to position the 4x6 frame. After watching this, I now feel able to tackle this project with confidence.
Never thought about using gravel instead of pavers or concrete for my future shed. I certainly do like the thought of any rain water not collecting under or around the shed. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks so much for this terrific video! I was just told that sheds need airflow underneath. I assume that's to prevent damage from moisture, but this method would take care of that problem without the need to further elevate the shed off the ground, right? Is there any other reason it's recommended to elevate a shed for airflow underneath?
Amazing video! Very thorough and informative thank you so much for sharing this!! I’m wondering is it okay if I lay some bricks down and space them out on top of the fabric before putting the gravel? Main thing is I have lotta bricks left from another project in the backyard and I could use them to give more support and stability. I’ll space them out to allow proper drainage… but is it a good idea you think? Thanks again
This type of shed foundation seems like the best move for me as we get a decent amount of rain and snow in Quebec. I’m going to buy a 7 by 7 resin shed. I do have a question for you, what would be the best way to anchor the shed since I can’t bolt it through the floor? It gets windy here so I really need to anchor it.
Hi Matt, There are some stake-type anchors which can be screwed or pounded into the ground and attached to the shed via cables. Ultimately, we'd recommend that you use whatever anchoring system is recommended by the shed manufacturer. Best wishes!
One thing, that's why it's called 'Decorative Rock' and not Gravel which is different. Also, in case i missed it, what can be used instead of #57? All of my local supply companies stopped carrying it and only have crusher run or 3/4" granite which is $$$. Great guide to get you started!
Basically you want 3/4" washed limestone or some other type of "drainage" rock. If you can't get 3/4", it's better to go a little bigger rather than smaller.
I am building a 10x8 shed. What kind and how much gravel to use? Also what would the dimensions should the gravel pad be? How much of the fabric #3 should be for my size of shed and where can I get it? What size and quantity of lumber to use? Great info and video!
Here's a helpful guide that will answer those questions: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/. In regards to the fabric length, we suggest keeping it longer and wider than your foundation perimeter so that you can secure it to your wood perimeter (you can read more about this at the link above).
Hi James, great Video. One question regarding the corners. I notice you don't cut out a notch on the ends of you timbers so they overlap to connect them. Is there a reason you don't? Is that why you use the rebar for extra strength? Thanks for your feedback. This video is very informative.
Thank you so much for the detailed video. I used this exact method for the foundation of my small prefab composite shed. However, I live in Canada and the frost seems to be pushing really hard upwards on the rebars. I used only one course of lumber for the perimeter. In the winter, the frost raises the perimeter by a few inches and it prevents the doors from opening all the way. Every spring i need to pound the lumber back in place. Do you have a trick to avoid this? Even with longer rebars i fear the same issue will happen... I want to use the same technique elsewhere in my yard, but I don't want to pound everything every year. I might avoid inserting the rebars for my next project. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Man! Just found you channel through a website that was talking about best material for a hot tub base. This is a great video. Very torough and very well explained. Will come back to this when im ready to build mine!
Excellent video! I feel like a pro now. I've no doubt when I try this on my own, reality will set in and have me coming back to rewatch this. My last shed was pipe cemented in place so I never considered anchoring my new one! Thanks
You're welcome Shaun! Hope your project turns out well! If you need more info, we also have an article that on our website with more photos, etc. www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Thanks James. I came over here from an article on ground prep for hot tubs. They said your shed base video would work for a hot tub base. It is by far the best video I have seen. I am also going to take a look at the in-depth articles you link to at your website. Would you do anything differently for a hot tub prep than you show in this shed video? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you care to share.
Excellent video. Detailed. I've watched over 20 videos over the past month to get educated on how to make a gravel pad. This one has the most important details (ie, how to mark the corners, how to do a foundation on both a slope and a hill - which we have). The chapters are also very helpful as we had to go back and check steps several times. Thank you!
Is the rebar necessary for only a single layer of wood? I don't see how the wood is going to move once the gravel is inside. I appreciate any answers. Thanks!
I know a lot of folks have thanked you for this video, but I truly am grateful for such a well done step by step process. I also wanted to thank you for the suggestion of putting the anchors down prior to putting in the clean stone. I was trying to figure that one out, lol. I realize you’ve told multiple folks you’re just toe screwing into the timber next to it to keep in place then adding rebar to every other course as needed. Would timber screws work as well or is the price a bit much for a large 12 x 24’ shed? My plan is to retreat any cut ends on the 4 x 6” by soaking them, as well as painting the product on the entire timber itself as we have a good bit of rain, lots of ground water, and a heck of a lot of humidity
Hi Elaine, Glad it was useful to you as well! It sounds like you will have a very sturdy shed foundation when you're done, especially if you treat the cut ends and paint the whole works. As far as timber screws, we're not 100% sure which product you're referring to, so it's a little hard to give a definite recommendation. In general, we'd say that anything more than a 4" exterior screw is probably overkill, but certainly won't hurt! Good luck on your project!
@@site-prep thanks so much! I’ve read several articles on your website and believe I will use thicker Timbers due to the slope I need to put it on as recommended. I don’t know how long to make the perpendicular timbers, if you could provide a link to your website, I’d be grateful. The timber screws I’ve used in the past were by TimberLok, picked up at a local big box store. They have a hex head and can be countersunk, granted they’re a bit more than exterior screws rated for PT wood, but harder to strip out than the old philips type head. It’s been well over a decade since I’ve don’t this type of work, before the introduction and popularity of torx heads. I’ve used them primarily with mending plates on opposing sides to join timbers rather than using a half lap joint and then rebar of course. The mending plates help keep the timbers in alignment whilst pounding in the rebar. Sometimes I hit an unseen rock and the rebar would go out of whack causing the timber to go out of alignment, etc.
Sounds good, Elaine! You can refer to the written version of this guide here if it's helpful: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Do you recommend installing 2 equally spaced cross wood pieces across the width of the gravel foundation, or just leave it as gravel, it is a 10' x 12' shed pad.
Hello and thank you for the great video! I'm in the process of building my own foundation. For a smaller shed (9x13 suggested foundation size) could I get away with 1 base layer of 4x6's with 2" going below ground? Could I go down to 2x6s? Or would I change to using 2x4s or 4x4? Any help is appreciated!
Awesome video. Could you fill the entire platform area with gravel not just the top 4"? Any reason not to besides cost. Also, how much do you recess the 4x6s on top of each other so that the vertical edge of the platform is sloped back a little?
Thanks this is awesome! I looked at 15 other videos before I finally found the right one! I'm actually building an RV pad with an RV Carport and this is a great design for that as well! Bravo....
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Thank you for this excellent video. My plan is to construct a 7X8 foot greenhouse for the back yard. It is light weight compared to a shed. Would it make sense to build a foundation as you describe here and dimension it so the bottom plates of the greenhouse can be screwed directly to the foundation timbers?
Yes, it would probably make sense. Here's a helpful DIY guide to build a foundation if you're interested: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Really outstanding video. Only thing I would be curious about would be how to add drainage. I am on a heavy clay property, and was thinking of slanting the excavated area and installing some drainage pipe run from bottom of the slanted area under and out of the enclosed area of the property line where it drops a bit. Any experience in areas with heavy clay, and high rain/snow? I'd be at least a little worried that the entire enclosed area could pool water.
Hi Boots, Your shed foundation will drain as well or as poorly as the site it's sitting on, meaning that if there's water already pooling in your chosen location, it will still pool. That's one reason we mention the importance of choosing the correct site. That being said, the shed foundation itself doesn't need any extra drainage. Since the crushed stone is permeable, all the water will drain straight through it like it would in the rest of your yard. So if your yard drains alright as it is, the shed foundation shouldn't change that. Hope that's helpful!
Is it ok for the pad to have only 4 inches of gravel on all sides of the shed? I know you've recommended 1 foot on all sides, but how would a smaller amount do? I ask this because I've already constructed the pad and did not install any anchors! I don't want to dig the gravel back out so I am thinking I could install my anchors OUTSIDE the gravel pad, and make the shed slightly larger so I can tie down to these anchors easily. Thanks for any help!
Hi Cody, Yes, that can work, though you may get more dirt/moisture splashing up on the side of the shed. One option for anchoring is a stake anchor attached to the shed via a cable. That will give a little more flexibility to where exactly you place the anchor. Here's an example of that anchor style: www.homedepot.com/p/TIEDOWN-Storage-Shed-Eye-Anchor-Kit-59075/100318600 Hope that helps!
Great video, but two questions: 1) why build the fame/fill with gravel a full foot extra in every direction? The video states its better for drainage, but unless your shed has a roof that extends > foot from its footprint, isn't this just gonna facilitate collecting more rain INTO the gravel foundation? It seems like if you just have maybe an inch or two extra each direction that would not only be sufficient, but also easier, better, and more convenient (no "step up")?
Great video! I have a question about adding hardware cloth (mesh) to the foundation to prevent rodents from burrowing into under the shed. Other videos suggest 12” down and 12” out front the shed in a and then attaching the hardware cloth to the base of the shed. How would you do that with a gravel foundation? Thanks for your help!
Great guide thank you. Maybe it's just me but I can't stand the idea of any lumber in direct contact with dirt. Don't you think it would be better to have at least 2 inches of washed gravel under the perimeter boards to create a dry/draining area under the lumber? Do you have any videos for actually building the shed foundation itself, by that I mean the floor of the shed that sits on the gravel. Thanks man!!!
Hi Corvus, It's hard to get away from the lumber being in contact with soil in one way or another. If you think about it, it's the same idea as deck posts. Your gravel idea is an interesting one, though, and would certainly be worth trying. We don't build sheds, so we unfortunately don't have videos from that part of the process.
A methodical and comprehensive instructional video. Very well put together. Thank you! Do you recommend a different approach if putting in an RV garage considering the added weight of the RV at the path of the tires?
Hi Mark, You may want to adjust this a bit if it's a site that will be driven on regularly, especially with a large vehicle like an RV. Definitely make sure the area is well compacted and that there is adequate bracing if the site is sloped. It's hard for us to make a definite recommendation without having seen your specific site. Best wishes!
In reference to the stabilization fabric used under the crushed stone, you mentioned in the video that you use a woven geotextile fabric but isn't a non-woven fabric preferred for water drainage? Thank you.
Hi Warren, The woven fabric is also permeable enough for rainwater to drain through it, while still providing a higher level of tensile strength to support the stone and the shed.
Thank you so much for this great video. This is precisely what I needed to start my project. I’m planning to build a shed ( a 10 x 5 Tiki bar) in my backyard. I’m in Michigan, where my ground is clay, and the frost line is 42 inches. I have a couple of questions before starting my project: - In the video, you put the perimeter on the dirt and fill the inside with 4” of crushed gravel. Can I put the crushed rocks down first and then secure my 4x6 perimeter on top of it with 2’ reinforcement bars? - Can I use 4 x 6 plastic timber instead of the ground contact pressure treaded timber? Thanks,
1. We don't recommend putting the perimeter on top of the stone as its main purpose is to contain the stone. If the perimeter is on top, your stones could begin to slip out underneath over time. 2. We don't know exactly what you're referring to as "plastic timber", but it may be an option assuming you have a way to fasten the corners and stake it down. If you're going more than one course high, you'll also want to think about how you'll brace or reinforce the sides.
Fantastic video! I only have one question regarding the suggestion to add a 3' buffer for the length/width of the shed dimensions (13:09 timestamp). I'm looking to build a shed foundation here soon, but I was thinking of building the foundation with the same dimensions as the shed itself (or maybe only a slight amount of buffer). If the crushed 3/4 washed stone is already meant to act as a water filter, AND the bottom of the shed is already pressure treated lumber (with ground contact rating), why would this additional water drainage be needed? Additionally for some context, I live in a pretty dry area where it really doesn't rain that much or too often usually.. so I think I'd rather save on materials to have the foundation fit the shed area and no more since I think this would also look aesthetically a bit better AND save some real estate room in our backyard that is not too big to begin with.
Hi Christian, Here's an article that goes into more detail on the benefits of making the shed foundation slightly larger than the shed. (Also, we typically recommend 12" extra on each side of the shed, if that makes a difference.) www.siteprep.com/gravel-shed-foundation-12-wider-shed/
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to publish and share it. I like how you showed how to anchor the foundation. I have one question though... the foundation is anchored well, but what's the best way to anchor a wooden shed on top of the gravel foundation so it stays in place? Thanks for any advice.
Just like to say great video to start off, however I do have two questions. First, the area I will be building on is relatively flat. Therefore, do I only need two 4"x6" one of top of each other all around? Second, there is already 3/4" rock on the area where I will be building. Is it okay to build on top of it rather than dirt?
Hi Anthony, If the ground is very level, you may only need 1 course of 4x6s all the way around. You may be ok to build on top of the stone, but make sure it's compacted well and that your perimeter is staked in place. You can see examples of many different shed foundation scenarios here: www.siteprep.com/recent-projects/
Very informative video. I do have a question. I'm not sure I follow how the bracing was attached for a dig out. Is the edge of the brace level with the inside of the perimeter 4x6, and just attached with 4" screws?
Hi Matt, For lower slopes (think 16" or less) it can be enough to just screw the brace to the inside of the built-up perimeter. For steeper grades, the deadman should actually be built into the perimeter. The bracing section of this article gives more details (and photos): www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/#Step-7-Add-any-necessary-bracing-to-your-gravel-shed-foundation
Fantastic video! Really easy to understand and well spoken! Quick question.... When screwing the perimeter 4x6’s to each other, before you anchor them- (Time 18:30 in the video) Do you have to “toe-nail” them in? (flipping them on end would make them 6”, [actually 5.5”] and we are using 4” screws). I also notice at 13:15 of the video, when you said to add 3ft to the pad site to cover- 12 inches of gravel outside the shed footprint, and then 6” for the lumber. Wouldn’t the lumber number actually be 3.5”? This is not a big deal I’m sure, but I’m in the planning stages and the numbers weren’t adding up for me. Thanks again for this really great video, I wish there were more topics covered this well!
Hi Denis, Yes the idea is to "toenail" the screws to the course below every few feet (when there are multiple courses of lumber.) The stakes will go straight through all the perimeter lumber and provide the majority of stability. The 3' of extra space is a rough number. The idea is to give a little extra space on the edges of the perimeter so you can adjust the lumber to be square before fastening. You can fill any extra space on the outside with leftover dirt once the perimeter is in place (like 20:43). Hope that makes sense!
What is the difference between weed barrier and stabilization fabric? Where can I buy stabilization fabric? what should I be looking for in a fabric? Thank you!
Great video, super-detailed! Question: where can i find the Class 3 Stabilization Fabric that you mentioned. Can it be found in the Orange or Blue stores? I can't find reference to Class 3 ratings at either big box store except for buying massive 12.5' X 432' rolls for almost $600. Probably works great for a contractor, but not so practical for regular guys like me! Any suggestions?
Alejandro, that's a great question...we buy ours wholesale, so it's not an issue we've faced. I don't know the exact class rating of this product, but glancing over the listing it looks like it should be sufficient for a shed foundation, especially if the dirt is packed well. And it's under $100. www.amazon.com/ArmorLay-Commercial-Grade-Driveway-Fabric/dp/B074MDB596?th=1
Let us know if you come up with something else so we can pass it on to others!
Many thanks for the suggestion! They also sell a 12.5'X50' size that's only $47, and that should cover my needs. I'll be installing on Thursday, so I'll try to remember to come back here and let you know!
Awesome, sounds good!
Alejandro Vieira, the 12.5 x 50- was that “US 200”? Was it exactly what they are talking about in this video- the 220lb tensile strength and 90lb puncture strength? I got a quote (US Fabrics Inc.) for 12.5 x 50 and it was $99.36! If you got it cheaper, would you share where you got it?
Thank you so much for making this video for people like me who know nothing about foundations or shed requirements.
I've been a builder for many years and have seen quite a fair bit of sheds. The plans in ryan's package ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxB7IXYxLzb_Ichhe45zM3Im5xfEiSp9vB have some of the nicest looking sheds i've seen in a while.
I think this is the first comment on UA-cam that I’ve made (and I’ve watched a lot of instructional videos on UA-cam!). This was an excellent video from all angles....clear, concise, documented, well-presented, appropriate accompanying video,....just a completely great tutorial. I built my foundation just as specified and it turned out great! Thank you so much!
That's great to hear! Glad it turned out well for you.
And btw...go pack go ;D
The level of detail is great!
Thorough video! This covers everything. Don't be intimidated. Watch again and again and take notes. Do it right the first time!
Glad it was helpful!
I followed these instructions to the letter to build my shed foundation 3 yrs ago and it is still going strong after 3 Canadian winters
I just need to periodically pick weeds out of the gravel
A video which is totally clear to understand & no wasting time gabbing through 3/4 of it all on how Co got started & etc.
Very, very informative & detailed/ A great help! Been a long time since I did this type of work 45 + yrs , and a lot refreshed my memory.
I rarely leave comments but felt compelled for this video as it was everything a tutorial should be, clear, detailed and concise. Like others, the video gave me the confidence and knowledge to do the project myself and for that I am extremely grateful. Literally started the project this morning with the gravel arriving at 8 am and then a trip to the blue store. At the end of the day the is site excavated, perimeter fixed and rebar in place, landscapers mat down and half the gravel in place. This old man needs a break after that! Will finish this weekend with the foundation for a 10 x 12 shed. Many thanks for a great video, truly helpful.
Thanks for the comment, Stuart! It's great to hear that you were able to tackle the job with the info provided here. Best of luck with the remainder of the project!
That was a great video, brother. I was thinking of going with a concrete pad for my shed but this video convinced me otherwise. Thank you, kindly.
Glad it was helpful!
Been watching videos one after another and haven’t seen any video as best or detailed as yours! Finally feel confident in starting this project for my shed thanks to your in depth video! Thanks!
Of the hours of shed related info, this was have down the most comprehensive and digestible. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
great vid! I've watched 5 videos this morning looking for an answer about fabric whether or not you should bother with it. Your detail in the video is amazing
Glad it was helpful!
FANTASTIC VIDEO!! This is what i needed! I'm not building a shed, however what i'm building (platform for my 275 gallon IBC totes) requires this type of foundation. I suck at making a section of my yard level and have searched and searched for videos that explain in detail how to do that. Your video helped me understand how to!! So thankful for this video. Again, this is a nicely detailed video on how to level grade. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Awesome, glad it was helpful! We've actually built several of these pads specifically for totes and/or water tanks! Best wishes with your project!
Hands down the best video on this topic that I've watched... detailed, and I like that you don't just explain what you're doing but you also explain why. Thanks for a great resource!
Glad it was helpful!
I used this video to help me build a 16x32 pad for a shed . The only issue I ran into was the different types of clay dirt and sand / rock in the cut out area. I had to take out 6 inches more dirt than originally thought and add a second layer of wood to level it off . I also used more rebar steaks every 4 ft 3 ft long to secure it in place. I rented the same machine in the video for under 500.00 . I added 6-12 inches of rock. I also rented the plate vibrator to pack the dirt and rock .
The other thing is that it's a lot of work to build this by yourself. I recommend getting some help or hiring a few hands. My project took about a week to complete working everyday 8 hours.
The cost was 3169.00 plus a few extras. I did most of the labor myself which was no cost to the bill.
Well, I was about to say how extremely thorough this video was ... and I mean it ... then I read the other comments. They all pretty much say the same thing. But really, other videos weren't close to how well done this video is. Thanks very much!
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Maybe the Best Instructional Presentation of any of many UA-cam videos I have viewed.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I've watched tons of instructional videos here on UA-cam and have learned quite a bit. This is probably the most thorough video that I have seen. It goes into great detail to give you all of the points you need to consider when building a shed foundation. Bravo!
Thanks for the video. Very well explained every detailed step by step. I will be following this blueprint. Thanks again. It deserves a trophy 🏆
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video, super helpful and thorough. Thanks!
Awesome video. So could you maybe give out a list of the necessary tools, hair products and any other materials needed? Any help is appreciated thanks man
Would you mind reaching out to us in order to assist you better? www.siteprep.com/
Great video, thank you. I've been wracking my brain around a shed pad that goes down a mild 4" slope (door opens on the low end). I'm using 2 courses of 4x4x8 and 10 but this is extremely helpful.
This is the best video on building a gravel foundation I've found. Great job!
Very good instructional video. Guy knows what he's talking about. Best practice video right here.
Thanks, glad you found it helpful!
Wow this is an extremely detailed video on anything and everything you would need to know.
The problem is, it explains just how in depth putting in such a simple thing as a shed has become these days.
Unfortunately.
So now I'm debating whether I care to actually do something like this. May as well just build a whole new home while I'm at it, it feels.
Shiiiit
I followed your instructions and now my 11x15 pad looks great! Thanks, this was the best shed pad video I found on YT.
Glad it helped!
Honestly this is the BEST and most STRAIGHFORWARD video that literally answered all my questions from start to finish. THANK YOU!
You're so welcome!
I've watched several gravel pad prep videos for the shed I plan to have delivered and this is the most comprehensive. It's particularly helpful in dealing with a slope, as the location I have is sloped about 4" and I was not sure how to position the 4x6 frame. After watching this, I now feel able to tackle this project with confidence.
Thanks Lanita! Best wishes for your project!
The best and most detailed video i found, thank you!
This is the perfect video. I have to dig and build up because of about a foot drop in 10 feet. You hit all my concerns in this video.
Great!
Great description of creating a foundation for a building. Well done!
Thank you guys.
Great step by step, now I am ready for my shed. Thank you for putting this together!
You are welcome. Glad it was helpful!
IMPRESSIVE TUTORIAL! Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Gives me the confidence to try this myself.
Great! Hope your project goes well!
Never thought about using gravel instead of pavers or concrete for my future shed. I certainly do like the thought of any rain water not collecting under or around the shed. Thanks for the informative video.
You bet!
Excellent information and presentation. Thank you!
Great job! This presentation is detailed and concise.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for this terrific video!
I was just told that sheds need airflow underneath. I assume that's to prevent damage from moisture, but this method would take care of that problem without the need to further elevate the shed off the ground, right?
Is there any other reason it's recommended to elevate a shed for airflow underneath?
That's correct.
This is the best made video for gravel foundation I've found so far. Thank you for the great work!
Wow, thank you!
Amazing video! Very thorough and informative thank you so much for sharing this!! I’m wondering is it okay if I lay some bricks down and space them out on top of the fabric before putting the gravel? Main thing is I have lotta bricks left from another project in the backyard and I could use them to give more support and stability. I’ll space them out to allow proper drainage… but is it a good idea you think? Thanks again
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This type of shed foundation seems like the best move for me as we get a decent amount of rain and snow in Quebec. I’m going to buy a 7 by 7 resin shed. I do have a question for you, what would be the best way to anchor the shed since I can’t bolt it through the floor? It gets windy here so I really need to anchor it.
Hi Matt,
There are some stake-type anchors which can be screwed or pounded into the ground and attached to the shed via cables. Ultimately, we'd recommend that you use whatever anchoring system is recommended by the shed manufacturer.
Best wishes!
Thank you so much. This was so informative without a whole lot of extra blah blah that I don’t need. Thank you so much.❤
Glad it was helpful!
One thing, that's why it's called 'Decorative Rock' and not Gravel which is different. Also, in case i missed it, what can be used instead of #57? All of my local supply companies stopped carrying it and only have crusher run or 3/4" granite which is $$$. Great guide to get you started!
Basically you want 3/4" washed limestone or some other type of "drainage" rock. If you can't get 3/4", it's better to go a little bigger rather than smaller.
Any recommendations for using this in Florida on sand? There is literally no hard soil to dig down to. Thank you for the fantastic video!
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I am building a 10x8 shed. What kind and how much gravel to use? Also what would the dimensions should the gravel pad be? How much of the fabric #3 should be for my size of shed and where can I get it? What size and quantity of lumber to use? Great info and video!
Here's a helpful guide that will answer those questions: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/. In regards to the fabric length, we suggest keeping it longer and wider than your foundation perimeter so that you can secure it to your wood perimeter (you can read more about this at the link above).
Fantastic video! Super thorough and clear. Thank you!
Hi James, great Video. One question regarding the corners. I notice you don't cut out a notch on the ends of you timbers so they overlap to connect them. Is there a reason you don't? Is that why you use the rebar for extra strength? Thanks for your feedback. This video is very informative.
It's not necessary to notch the corners if using screws and rebar as recommended.
Thank you so much for the detailed video. I used this exact method for the foundation of my small prefab composite shed. However, I live in Canada and the frost seems to be pushing really hard upwards on the rebars. I used only one course of lumber for the perimeter. In the winter, the frost raises the perimeter by a few inches and it prevents the doors from opening all the way. Every spring i need to pound the lumber back in place. Do you have a trick to avoid this? Even with longer rebars i fear the same issue will happen... I want to use the same technique elsewhere in my yard, but I don't want to pound everything every year. I might avoid inserting the rebars for my next project. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Man! Just found you channel through a website that was talking about best material for a hot tub base. This is a great video. Very torough and very well explained. Will come back to this when im ready to build mine!
Great, welcome! We actually have some content on our website about gravel hot tub bases specifically!
www.siteprep.com/gravel-bases-for-hot-tubs/
Excellent video! I feel like a pro now. I've no doubt when I try this on my own, reality will set in and have me coming back to rewatch this. My last shed was pipe cemented in place so I never considered anchoring my new one! Thanks
Best of luck!
Like the others have said, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you!!!
You're welcome Shaun! Hope your project turns out well! If you need more info, we also have an article that on our website with more photos, etc. www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Thanks James. I came over here from an article on ground prep for hot tubs. They said your shed base video would work for a hot tub base. It is by far the best video I have seen.
I am also going to take a look at the in-depth articles you link to at your website.
Would you do anything differently for a hot tub prep than you show in this shed video? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you care to share.
Thanks for the kind words, Jan! This style of pad should work exactly the same for a hot tub.
Let us know how it turns out for you!
Thanks for the video. It made it so much easier. My first gravel pad could’ve done it without your video.
Really useful: More detailed than I need but great at explaining just what benefits come from which actions. Thanks.
Thanks Alastair! Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you for the supply list, I really appreciate it!
Excellent video. Detailed. I've watched over 20 videos over the past month to get educated on how to make a gravel pad. This one has the most important details (ie, how to mark the corners, how to do a foundation on both a slope and a hill - which we have). The chapters are also very helpful as we had to go back and check steps several times. Thank you!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video. A lesson of construction technology.
Glad it was helpful!
Is the rebar necessary for only a single layer of wood? I don't see how the wood is going to move once the gravel is inside. I appreciate any answers. Thanks!
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I know a lot of folks have thanked you for this video, but I truly am grateful for such a well done step by step process. I also wanted to thank you for the suggestion of putting the anchors down prior to putting in the clean stone. I was trying to figure that one out, lol. I realize you’ve told multiple folks you’re just toe screwing into the timber next to it to keep in place then adding rebar to every other course as needed. Would timber screws work as well or is the price a bit much for a large 12 x 24’ shed? My plan is to retreat any cut ends on the 4 x 6” by soaking them, as well as painting the product on the entire timber itself as we have a good bit of rain, lots of ground water, and a heck of a lot of humidity
Hi Elaine,
Glad it was useful to you as well! It sounds like you will have a very sturdy shed foundation when you're done, especially if you treat the cut ends and paint the whole works.
As far as timber screws, we're not 100% sure which product you're referring to, so it's a little hard to give a definite recommendation. In general, we'd say that anything more than a 4" exterior screw is probably overkill, but certainly won't hurt!
Good luck on your project!
@@site-prep thanks so much! I’ve read several articles on your website and believe I will use thicker Timbers due to the slope I need to put it on as recommended. I don’t know how long to make the perpendicular timbers, if you could provide a link to your website, I’d be grateful. The timber screws I’ve used in the past were by TimberLok, picked up at a local big box store. They have a hex head and can be countersunk, granted they’re a bit more than exterior screws rated for PT wood, but harder to strip out than the old philips type head. It’s been well over a decade since I’ve don’t this type of work, before the introduction and popularity of torx heads. I’ve used them primarily with mending plates on opposing sides to join timbers rather than using a half lap joint and then rebar of course. The mending plates help keep the timbers in alignment whilst pounding in the rebar. Sometimes I hit an unseen rock and the rebar would go out of whack causing the timber to go out of alignment, etc.
Sounds good, Elaine! You can refer to the written version of this guide here if it's helpful: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
@@site-prep thanks is there a formula to know how long to cut the deadman?
Awesome video. I just wanted to ask if a woven or non-woven fabric should be used.
Excellent detail-oriented video instruction. Fabulous!
Glad it was helpful!
So well smooth explained, wish he will come and set up my new shed ❤
Glad it was helpful!
This video and your blog post are insanely helpful. Thank you so much!
Well done dude very well explained and helpful for everyone
Glad it was helpful!
One of the best instructional videos on construction projects I've found. Great job!
Wow, thanks!
Do you recommend installing 2 equally spaced cross wood pieces across the width of the gravel foundation, or just leave it as gravel, it is a 10' x 12' shed pad.
Hello and thank you for the great video! I'm in the process of building my own foundation. For a smaller shed (9x13 suggested foundation size) could I get away with 1 base layer of 4x6's with 2" going below ground? Could I go down to 2x6s? Or would I change to using 2x4s or 4x4? Any help is appreciated!
Hey Luis, this article might be a helpful resource in answering your question! www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Awesome video. Could you fill the entire platform area with gravel not just the top 4"? Any reason not to besides cost. Also, how much do you recess the 4x6s on top of each other so that the vertical edge of the platform is sloped back a little?
BEST hot to instructions to prepare for a shed👍🏽,thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks this is awesome! I looked at 15 other videos before I finally found the right one! I'm actually building an RV pad with an RV Carport and this is a great design for that as well! Bravo....
Glad to hear that! Let us know how it turns out!
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Thanks, Neal!
Thank you for this excellent video. My plan is to construct a 7X8 foot greenhouse for the back yard. It is light weight compared to a shed. Would it make sense to build a foundation as you describe here and dimension it so the bottom plates of the greenhouse can be screwed directly to the foundation timbers?
Yes, it would probably make sense. Here's a helpful DIY guide to build a foundation if you're interested: www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/
Thank you for being so detailed yet so concise.
You are welcome!
Outstanding video! I wish you guys were in central florida and could make my gravel foundation for my new shed! Great info and great detail! Thanks!
Thank you, Kum!
Did you make a gravel foundation? I am in South FL with nothing but sand and trying to determine if this will work for my shed. Thanks
If I just have 6x6 posts as the perimeter do I still need to use rebar? Thanks, great video!
Exactly what I needed for my upcoming projects. Thank you for taking the time to create and post this video for us DIY'ers!
You are so welcome!
The most comprehensive video to date. Covers range of topic.
Thank you!
Really outstanding video. Only thing I would be curious about would be how to add drainage. I am on a heavy clay property, and was thinking of slanting the excavated area and installing some drainage pipe run from bottom of the slanted area under and out of the enclosed area of the property line where it drops a bit.
Any experience in areas with heavy clay, and high rain/snow? I'd be at least a little worried that the entire enclosed area could pool water.
Hi Boots,
Your shed foundation will drain as well or as poorly as the site it's sitting on, meaning that if there's water already pooling in your chosen location, it will still pool. That's one reason we mention the importance of choosing the correct site.
That being said, the shed foundation itself doesn't need any extra drainage. Since the crushed stone is permeable, all the water will drain straight through it like it would in the rest of your yard. So if your yard drains alright as it is, the shed foundation shouldn't change that.
Hope that's helpful!
Thanks for an excellent informative video , I learned a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Is it ok for the pad to have only 4 inches of gravel on all sides of the shed? I know you've recommended 1 foot on all sides, but how would a smaller amount do? I ask this because I've already constructed the pad and did not install any anchors! I don't want to dig the gravel back out so I am thinking I could install my anchors OUTSIDE the gravel pad, and make the shed slightly larger so I can tie down to these anchors easily. Thanks for any help!
Hi Cody,
Yes, that can work, though you may get more dirt/moisture splashing up on the side of the shed.
One option for anchoring is a stake anchor attached to the shed via a cable. That will give a little more flexibility to where exactly you place the anchor. Here's an example of that anchor style: www.homedepot.com/p/TIEDOWN-Storage-Shed-Eye-Anchor-Kit-59075/100318600
Hope that helps!
Great video, but two questions: 1) why build the fame/fill with gravel a full foot extra in every direction? The video states its better for drainage, but unless your shed has a roof that extends > foot from its footprint, isn't this just gonna facilitate collecting more rain INTO the gravel foundation? It seems like if you just have maybe an inch or two extra each direction that would not only be sufficient, but also easier, better, and more convenient (no "step up")?
Thanks for being so clear!
Glad it was helpful!
Super helpful video I am building a shed for my Eagle Scout project and I would be lost if I did not have this video to help me through what to do
Awesome! Good luck with the shed and with your Eagle Scout quest!
Great video! I have a question about adding hardware cloth (mesh) to the foundation to prevent rodents from burrowing into under the shed. Other videos suggest 12” down and 12” out front the shed in a and then attaching the hardware cloth to the base of the shed. How would you do that with a gravel foundation? Thanks for your help!
This is the most comprehensive video I’ve seen. Exactly what I need. Thank you so much for being so detailed. Excellent video. Just subscribed!
Awesome, thank you!
Great guide thank you. Maybe it's just me but I can't stand the idea of any lumber in direct contact with dirt. Don't you think it would be better to have at least 2 inches of washed gravel under the perimeter boards to create a dry/draining area under the lumber? Do you have any videos for actually building the shed foundation itself, by that I mean the floor of the shed that sits on the gravel. Thanks man!!!
Hi Corvus,
It's hard to get away from the lumber being in contact with soil in one way or another. If you think about it, it's the same idea as deck posts. Your gravel idea is an interesting one, though, and would certainly be worth trying.
We don't build sheds, so we unfortunately don't have videos from that part of the process.
Have you ever used railroad ties for your perimeter? If so, how did the install compare to your standard 4x6 approach?
A methodical and comprehensive instructional video. Very well put together. Thank you!
Do you recommend a different approach if putting in an RV garage considering the added weight of the RV at the path of the tires?
Hi Mark,
You may want to adjust this a bit if it's a site that will be driven on regularly, especially with a large vehicle like an RV. Definitely make sure the area is well compacted and that there is adequate bracing if the site is sloped.
It's hard for us to make a definite recommendation without having seen your specific site. Best wishes!
In reference to the stabilization fabric used under the crushed stone, you mentioned in the video that you use a woven geotextile fabric but isn't a non-woven fabric preferred for water drainage? Thank you.
Hi Warren,
The woven fabric is also permeable enough for rainwater to drain through it, while still providing a higher level of tensile strength to support the stone and the shed.
Damn, now this is how you educate! Great video
Thanks!
Fantastic video. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video. This answered all of my questions on this topic. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much for this great video. This is precisely what I needed to start my project. I’m planning to build a shed ( a 10 x 5 Tiki bar) in my backyard. I’m in Michigan, where my ground is clay, and the frost line is 42 inches. I have a couple of questions before starting my project:
- In the video, you put the perimeter on the dirt and fill the inside with 4” of crushed gravel. Can I put the crushed rocks down first and then secure my 4x6 perimeter on top of it with 2’ reinforcement bars?
- Can I use 4 x 6 plastic timber instead of the ground contact pressure treaded timber?
Thanks,
1. We don't recommend putting the perimeter on top of the stone as its main purpose is to contain the stone. If the perimeter is on top, your stones could begin to slip out underneath over time.
2. We don't know exactly what you're referring to as "plastic timber", but it may be an option assuming you have a way to fasten the corners and stake it down. If you're going more than one course high, you'll also want to think about how you'll brace or reinforce the sides.
Fantastic video! I only have one question regarding the suggestion to add a 3' buffer for the length/width of the shed dimensions (13:09 timestamp). I'm looking to build a shed foundation here soon, but I was thinking of building the foundation with the same dimensions as the shed itself (or maybe only a slight amount of buffer).
If the crushed 3/4 washed stone is already meant to act as a water filter, AND the bottom of the shed is already pressure treated lumber (with ground contact rating), why would this additional water drainage be needed? Additionally for some context, I live in a pretty dry area where it really doesn't rain that much or too often usually.. so I think I'd rather save on materials to have the foundation fit the shed area and no more since I think this would also look aesthetically a bit better AND save some real estate room in our backyard that is not too big to begin with.
Hi Christian,
Here's an article that goes into more detail on the benefits of making the shed foundation slightly larger than the shed. (Also, we typically recommend 12" extra on each side of the shed, if that makes a difference.)
www.siteprep.com/gravel-shed-foundation-12-wider-shed/
I'm putting a 16x40 shed/cabin on a gravel pad. I've been advised to put a vapor barrier between the gravel and the shed. What are your thoughts??
Thanks for all the effort and expertise that went into this video. So thorough and well thought out.
You're most welcome!
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to publish and share it. I like how you showed how to anchor the foundation. I have one question though... the foundation is anchored well, but what's the best way to anchor a wooden shed on top of the gravel foundation so it stays in place? Thanks for any advice.
Just like to say great video to start off, however I do have two questions. First, the area I will be building on is relatively flat. Therefore, do I only need two 4"x6" one of top of each other all around? Second, there is already 3/4" rock on the area where I will be building. Is it okay to build on top of it rather than dirt?
Hi Anthony,
If the ground is very level, you may only need 1 course of 4x6s all the way around. You may be ok to build on top of the stone, but make sure it's compacted well and that your perimeter is staked in place.
You can see examples of many different shed foundation scenarios here: www.siteprep.com/recent-projects/
Very informative video. I do have a question. I'm not sure I follow how the bracing was attached for a dig out. Is the edge of the brace level with the inside of the perimeter 4x6, and just attached with 4" screws?
Hi Matt,
For lower slopes (think 16" or less) it can be enough to just screw the brace to the inside of the built-up perimeter. For steeper grades, the deadman should actually be built into the perimeter. The bracing section of this article gives more details (and photos): www.siteprep.com/how-to-install-a-gravel-shed-foundation/#Step-7-Add-any-necessary-bracing-to-your-gravel-shed-foundation
Fantastic video! Really easy to understand and well spoken! Quick question.... When screwing the perimeter 4x6’s to each other, before you anchor them- (Time 18:30 in the video) Do you have to “toe-nail” them in? (flipping them on end would make them 6”, [actually 5.5”] and we are using 4” screws). I also notice at 13:15 of the video, when you said to add 3ft to the pad site to cover- 12 inches of gravel outside the shed footprint, and then 6” for the lumber. Wouldn’t the lumber number actually be 3.5”? This is not a big deal I’m sure, but I’m in the planning stages and the numbers weren’t adding up for me. Thanks again for this really great video, I wish there were more topics covered this well!
Hi Denis,
Yes the idea is to "toenail" the screws to the course below every few feet (when there are multiple courses of lumber.) The stakes will go straight through all the perimeter lumber and provide the majority of stability.
The 3' of extra space is a rough number. The idea is to give a little extra space on the edges of the perimeter so you can adjust the lumber to be square before fastening. You can fill any extra space on the outside with leftover dirt once the perimeter is in place (like 20:43).
Hope that makes sense!
What is the difference between weed barrier and stabilization fabric? Where can I buy stabilization fabric? what should I be looking for in a fabric? Thank you!