This is the best real world test I’ve seen on YT. Nothing compares. It should be compulsory viewing for any prospective buyer who actually rides in moderately tough conditions. Most of the reviews I’ve seen just show owners running around sealed roads. Great observation when stopped in that rut.
At ten minutes in, your nervous laugh sounds like a running loop of what goes through my head the entire time I ride off road. Just got my 790 R and can’t wait to test the functionality of those modes. Thank you!
How is that?? He showed Position 1 & 9 on traction control and nothing in between?? Looks like he needed to go through more of the numbers to give a good assessment? Not trying to be negative, I just wish he would have tried a couple other positions besides 1 & 9? Or did I miss something?
Great review! I found myself use 1-5 at gravel roads. 7 equals to the TC setting in offroad mode. Tried that in deep sand combined with mud and was impressed over how the bike traction itself out of situations. I just have to throttle up. It will take a bit learning going from no TC experience at all. This bike grow's on me at every trip. Happy advriding my friend!
I really hope you are happy. This series is great. I need to get a test ride but you are really selling me on this bike. KTM should be cutting you a wicked deal on a 790.
Maybe this wheel slip control is more for surfaces that you expect traction on rather than those you don't? Hit a slippery spot on the road and you can get caught out easily yet on a surface where you expect a bit of spin and are standing up ready for it. It's been a long time since I have off roaded and always used to try and modulate the throttle to achieve the best or most suitable drive for the surface. I have a big heavy road bike and still ride the same if I have to get off the tar.
So Nerb, do you have an early verdict? Do you reckon you'd trade the big girl (1190) for one of these new-fangled 790R's? PS > 0.6 % female viewership means you have more than just me watching, given your 10K subscriber count. How can they resist you on your sexy new steed????
Would you think you could have done this ride with the non R and the tires you have in that bike? Trying to convince myself i don’t need an R model. Thanks!
Im not going to convince you! What is the disadvantage of the R? None. It can do everything the non-r can do AND its better off-road. I really dont see the disadvantage. That said, a non-r can still do anything.... just a bit harder. If you go back to my early videos, you will see Mark on his Honda 600 hornet taking it up crazy tracks.... so even a sport bike can go offroad.... if you abuse it enough ;) ua-cam.com/video/j0LFqV3j0WY/v-deo.html
Anyone else notice that the traction control was so effective that on the 3rd run you could hardly even tell a bike had already gone up there twice. Quite impressive.
KTM should give you one of these for all the proving you do for the adventure community What's happening with the 1190 Nerb? Are you going to make the desert crossing this year?
How much would these help a rider who did not even understand what was happening? I have an older model now with no traction control and mostly I do well with my own brain ...but I am perhaps overly cautious..deep sand stresses the hell out of me and that seems to be the only place I lose it ....just wondering what TC is going to do for the likes of me? BTW I HAVE SEVERAL times stepped out significantly in canyon pavement pushing things ...it's sand on the asphalt mostly....bike simply briefly let's go and hooks back up ...heart stops for a second sometimes
It was in rally mode (so you get the slip settings) and the throttle setting was in offroad and street. I tried both. Its not my bike, so I dont know what make the hand guards are.
Nerb.....I’ve heard comment that the motor runs very hot. Supposedly due to fuel tank location “wrapping” around the motor. Have you found this to be a fact?????
It does get hot very quickly once going slow, but it never overheated. Once the thermo fans started up it seemed to be fine. In comparison, my T7 also gets to the point of the fan coming on very quickly and its motor is very exposed. I think it is a parallel twin thing. I dont think it was something to be concerned about. Just make sure that fan comes on.
You should do better with a lower slip setting (towards 1) in mud/sand because it won’t cut the motor and cause you to loose momentum. This also takes some rider skill not to wide open the throttle and just spin the rear wheel. However the great thing about the bike is you can set what works for you and change it on the fly.
hi im female i watch i own ktm 1190 adventure r as well i like 790 i dont think it worth me geting it over 1190 not gaining much i look 790 im only 5.8 with 30inch leg 1190 hight but i when it the lightist every thing was tall i hopeing 790 be lower and lot lighter only lighter buy 20kg not much diffents and people look the 1190 fule tank the same the 790
What would be AWESOME (if you ask me) would be voice control modes! Including,for instance " LOFT NOW!" where the computer takes instant control of clutch and throttle and performs what is required to LOFT the front end skyward! Or say aloud "DRIFT mode" and every turn the bike adjusts throttle and clutch to step the rear end OUT....How about "HILL mode" where the computer simply does everything possible to support climbing a gnarly hill??
I think traction control level 7 might be a good number for climbing that hill. I say that because one of the journalist's during the Morocco 790 release tried to climb a rocky hill with no (or maybe level 1) traction control. He failed to get up the hill. Birchy (or whoever was nursing that group) suggested using level 7. He tried that and made it up the hill. I think he was surprised. PS Can you please rubbish the 790R more. Stop saying it is so good. I want to buy the cheaper T700 😊 Found the review - ua-cam.com/video/YKh03XOBw5E/v-deo.html (See 11:30 mins)
Found the review - ua-cam.com/video/YKh03XOBw5E/v-deo.html He starts talking about traction control and climbing the hill at 11.30 mins. (and I was wrong - it was Quinn Cody not Chris Birch)
I think that as an owner gets used to the bike, they will slowly work out which number to use when they see a hill. I now think that all bikes with TCS should be adjustable like this.... its awesome. I will do a short vid on rubbishing it for you ;)
Was a good demonstration. Also doing the hill a few times in a row you get to know the track, when and where to put on power, but as you saw from that log cross it still spun up.
790 has two models S and R. S is good on the road but sucks in the dirt. With R model is the opposite - sucks on the road ( need steering damper ), but it is good on the dirt. both models are packed with totally unnecessary complex electronics..... They are great to go to nearest caffe or shopping center.......where most of them will be used any way. In adventure bike LESS is MORE. You don't want adventure bike packed with sensors and electronics - and being stranded somewhere in the middle of now where because you cant fix the problem by hot wiring without resistor ( like the side stand for example )....and that should be a simple fix. COMPLEXITY caused by OVER DESIGNING that can leave you stranded is ENGINEERING FAULT.
P.S. this is an ad for Tenere 700? - thing is, there's always some joker telling everyone else what they need or don't need. We could all buy a DR650 and modify it to suit our individual needs if it comes to that
@@istra70: yes, my son has one of those. My 790 Adventure S is great for long distance road rides with some dirt thrown in but my DR650 is for Australia's outback sandy based overland tracks
This is the best real world test I’ve seen on YT. Nothing compares. It should be compulsory viewing for any prospective buyer who actually rides in moderately tough conditions. Most of the reviews I’ve seen just show owners running around sealed roads. Great observation when stopped in that rut.
+
Stop typing + wobbly... It gets marked as spam every time and I have to keep approving it!
@@Nerb1 Ha... that engagement... +
Man the sound of that motor plugins away on that hill is like meditation music to my ears!!😍
At ten minutes in, your nervous laugh sounds like a running loop of what goes through my head the entire time I ride off road.
Just got my 790 R and can’t wait to test the functionality of those modes.
Thank you!
Best traction control explanation / demo video ever !
How is that?? He showed Position 1 & 9 on traction control and nothing in between?? Looks like he needed to go through more of the numbers to give a good assessment? Not trying to be negative, I just wish he would have tried a couple other positions besides 1 & 9? Or did I miss something?
Great review! I found myself use 1-5 at gravel roads. 7 equals to the TC setting in offroad mode. Tried that in deep sand combined with mud and was impressed over how the bike traction itself out of situations. I just have to throttle up. It will take a bit learning going from no TC experience at all. This bike grow's on me at every trip. Happy advriding my friend!
I really hope you are happy. This series is great. I need to get a test ride but you are really selling me on this bike. KTM should be cutting you a wicked deal on a 790.
Definitely test ride one Riley, if you can. Still heavier than your 690, but I think you would find it generations ahead of the old F800.
That’s what I’m afraid of. Would be a tough sell at home.....
Excellent review Nerb! KTM should be watching your 790 R reviews and reward you. 👍😁
Whenever Nerb gets onto a tricky track BREATHINGWITHNERB
I was on the edge of my computer chair when you were trying to go uphill lol
Thanks for doing this, just picked up a 790 adventure yesterday, cheers!
is the R? I so wanted one but they all were snapped right up ...not sure I can settle for the standard ktm790 adventure ...almost rather wait it out?
Inspirational seeing those 2 guys riding 200+ kg adventure bikes up those steep hills. Great filming & editing too.
What 2 guys? I was the only one there.
Lol. I watched 2 vids today and accidentally mixed up my comments. By the way loving your 790 review. Up to day 2.
Maybe this wheel slip control is more for surfaces that you expect traction on rather than those you don't? Hit a slippery spot on the road and you can get caught out easily yet on a surface where you expect a bit of spin and are standing up ready for it. It's been a long time since I have off roaded and always used to try and modulate the throttle to achieve the best or most suitable drive for the surface. I have a big heavy road bike and still ride the same if I have to get off the tar.
after the 7 day period can you re-do the offroad sections on your 1190 and compare notes? I love this mini-series.
Will do!
Nice workout of the bike and showing the ergonomics. Traction control seems very customisable. Put it in 6 an rip.
I'm in the 0.6%! Luv your videos Nerb
"Fuck it you only live once right" !! Ha Ha Ha.
So Nerb, do you have an early verdict? Do you reckon you'd trade the big girl (1190) for one of these new-fangled 790R's? PS > 0.6 % female viewership means you have more than just me watching, given your 10K subscriber count. How can they resist you on your sexy new steed????
What if you identify as the other?
Nice review Nerb1 a fair back to back comparison.
Would you think you could have done this ride with the non R and the tires you have in that bike? Trying to convince myself i don’t need an R model. Thanks!
Im not going to convince you! What is the disadvantage of the R? None. It can do everything the non-r can do AND its better off-road. I really dont see the disadvantage.
That said, a non-r can still do anything.... just a bit harder. If you go back to my early videos, you will see Mark on his Honda 600 hornet taking it up crazy tracks.... so even a sport bike can go offroad.... if you abuse it enough ;)
ua-cam.com/video/j0LFqV3j0WY/v-deo.html
Great review you are providing here Nerb
What gear were you in going up the hill??
Anyone else notice that the traction control was so effective that on the 3rd run you could hardly even tell a bike had already gone up there twice. Quite impressive.
I went back there today on the 1190. Got up there once only.... too slippery. Video on tuesday!
@@Nerb1 Oh that'll be nice to see as a comparison! Now you just have to get a 1290r with similar tires and try its different modes aswell!
That's a fairdinkum review mate...…...top job !!!!!
Great video! Curious, what tire pressure are you running for a mix of on and off road?
I typically run 30psi everywhere, but im not sure what was in this bike.
you are just loving this
KTM should give you one of these for all the proving you do for the adventure community
What's happening with the 1190 Nerb? Are you going to make the desert crossing this year?
1190 will be crossing the Simpson in August. It sitting in someone elses garage this week ;)
You hope!
@@Nerb1 Great news Nerb, look forward to the video :¬)
@@Nerb1 That collateral.
How much would these help a rider who did not even understand what was happening? I have an older model now with no traction control and mostly I do well with my own brain ...but I am perhaps overly cautious..deep sand stresses the hell out of me and that seems to be the only place I lose it ....just wondering what TC is going to do for the likes of me? BTW I HAVE SEVERAL times stepped out significantly in canyon pavement pushing things ...it's sand on the asphalt mostly....bike simply briefly let's go and hooks back up ...heart stops for a second sometimes
Great review Nerb.
You probably mentioned this, was the hill climbing done in "offroad" or "rally" mode? What wrap arounds did you go with?
It was in rally mode (so you get the slip settings) and the throttle setting was in offroad and street. I tried both.
Its not my bike, so I dont know what make the hand guards are.
Shame it doesnt get up to 11
Noclue 🤣
Dammit Nerb, you’re making me want to cheat on my 1290R. This isn’t going to end well.
adventurist.tv
Nerd
Is Tom riding the 790 across the Simpson?
He hasnt got one. He's taking his 250
Nerb.....I’ve heard comment that the motor runs very hot. Supposedly due to fuel tank location “wrapping” around the motor. Have you found this to be a fact?????
It does get hot very quickly once going slow, but it never overheated. Once the thermo fans started up it seemed to be fine. In comparison, my T7 also gets to the point of the fan coming on very quickly and its motor is very exposed. I think it is a parallel twin thing. I dont think it was something to be concerned about. Just make sure that fan comes on.
rally mode disables lean angle traction control. not recommended on the street.
You should do better with a lower slip setting (towards 1) in mud/sand because it won’t cut the motor and cause you to loose momentum. This also takes some rider skill not to wide open the throttle and just spin the rear wheel. However the great thing about the bike is you can set what works for you and change it on the fly.
This bike is Nerb approved...
Okay, disregard all my previous comments, you tested the traction control like I thought one should do... or like I do on mine. :-)
hi im female i watch i own ktm 1190 adventure r as well i like 790 i dont think it worth me geting it over 1190 not gaining much i look 790 im only 5.8 with 30inch leg 1190 hight but i when it the lightist every thing was tall i hopeing 790 be lower and lot lighter only lighter buy 20kg not much diffents and people look the 1190 fule tank the same the 790
That's a good one.... Thanks
If you have time? Trip to Biker Bits HQ and out to the proving ground?
What would be AWESOME (if you ask me) would be voice control modes! Including,for instance " LOFT NOW!" where the computer takes instant control of clutch and throttle and performs what is required to LOFT the front end skyward! Or say aloud "DRIFT mode" and every turn the bike adjusts throttle and clutch to step the rear end OUT....How about "HILL mode" where the computer simply does everything possible to support climbing a gnarly hill??
No one likes a smartarse Dougie!
I think traction control level 7 might be a good number for climbing that hill. I say that because one of the journalist's during the Morocco 790 release tried to climb a rocky hill with no (or maybe level 1) traction control. He failed to get up the hill. Birchy (or whoever was nursing that group) suggested using level 7. He tried that and made it up the hill. I think he was surprised.
PS Can you please rubbish the 790R more. Stop saying it is so good. I want to buy the cheaper T700 😊
Found the review - ua-cam.com/video/YKh03XOBw5E/v-deo.html
(See 11:30 mins)
Found the review - ua-cam.com/video/YKh03XOBw5E/v-deo.html
He starts talking about traction control and climbing the hill at 11.30 mins.
(and I was wrong - it was Quinn Cody not Chris Birch)
Me too!
I think that as an owner gets used to the bike, they will slowly work out which number to use when they see a hill. I now think that all bikes with TCS should be adjustable like this.... its awesome.
I will do a short vid on rubbishing it for you ;)
Was a good demonstration.
Also doing the hill a few times in a row you get to know the track, when and where to put on power, but as you saw from that log cross it still spun up.
😎👍
790 has two models S and R. S is good on the road but sucks in the dirt. With R model is the opposite - sucks on the road ( need steering damper ), but it is good on the dirt.
both models are packed with totally unnecessary complex electronics.....
They are great to go to nearest caffe or shopping center.......where most of them will be used any way.
In adventure bike LESS is MORE. You don't want adventure bike packed with sensors and electronics - and being stranded somewhere in the middle of now where because you cant fix the problem by hot wiring without resistor ( like the side stand for example )....and that should be a simple fix.
COMPLEXITY caused by OVER DESIGNING that can leave you stranded is ENGINEERING FAULT.
P.S. this is an ad for Tenere 700? - thing is, there's always some joker telling everyone else what they need or don't need. We could all buy a DR650 and modify it to suit our individual needs if it comes to that
@@stevecrocker6904 Or DRZ 400. True....
@@istra70: yes, my son has one of those. My 790 Adventure S is great for long distance road rides with some dirt thrown in but my DR650 is for Australia's outback sandy based overland tracks
traction control is a big wank does nothing but limit power ,your right wrist can do that ,
Yeah right, try that with a 460lb bike with 95hp in the dirt, would love to see that......
@Twisted Throttle: .... real experts don't speak like you do
You have to sell this bike, its not for you…..