I have seen many reviews of products like this. Maybe this is produced by the same factory in China. They export it to every country under their respective distributor names. In my country it is imported by the Rixton brand. I already bought it and apparently yours is a better type. Yours has better sound. I wonder how much it would cost if sold in my country.
I read China's founder of current government system, plan for industrialization was wristwatch factories distributed throughout the country. All making the same watch but some factories intentionally managed to produce a higher quality watch, and others a lower cost watch. My guess is they do similar for production of other items. Numerous factories given plans which are setup to make different qualities of the same or similar items
Great review, really informative. I have a 61 key Roland Go Piano and am considering getting this because of its space-saving design. How does the sound compare to your Roland, or to similar digital pianos in this price-range from Casio; Yamaha etc?
Sounds great for the money and your chops are really terrific! Do you know if the Bluetooth transmits also MIDI control, or if the USB also carries audio either direction?
Thanks for the video. So glad to hear the instrument with a direct line. In my experience semi-weighted just means stronger springs. I can never get used to it while playing anything pianistic. These folding keyboards are very promising, but they won't deserve the title folding piano till they have better actions and better piano tones. I'm sure it will happen, but first the manufacturers need to take the folding market a bit more seriously. It's not just about dabbling - there are serious applications pending.
I very much agree. I bought a folding piano very much like the one featured here and find the springs on the action too hard. I’m eagerly waiting for the major manufacturers to get seriously involved. There is a huge market, not sure what they are waiting for. No technical reason why they couldn’t do it in as far as I can tell. None of the piano stores in Paris carry the China made folding keyboards.
Thanks for this review, based on this I bought this model from Oyayo on Amazon - but sent it back immediately: it was terrible! The volume of the keys varied hugely (with the same pressure the volume went up and down) and it wasn't possible to get any sound when the top quarter of the note was depressed (i.e. only the ends of the keys registered). Also the sound was more tinny than my entry level Yamaha which was half the price. Definitely NOT recommended.
Thanks for the unbox and review, both very appropriate. However, one definitive detail was missing: connecting the folding piano to an external amplifier or using VSTs, inside a DAW.
I mostly play classical music on my grand and I am looking for something in my caravan while camping. Would this be a good alternative and how is it handling really fast music passages?
One question i have for you, can you turn the touch on and off, can you make it so that you don't need to press the keys harder for the loudest noise and that they will all be the same volume? If you can answer would be helpful, Thank You!
I bought a folding keyboard through Amazon and returned it as really awful. Not to dismiss the one shown here, but recognize there are limitations to making a portable light inexpensive keyboard. Likely there is only one light spring tension in almost all of them. On the one I returned it seemed to use the time between contacts at top of key position and key position at bottom, if you press "harder" the key moves faster and the time the key travels between top & bottom is shorter and that apparently is used to calculate volume. If you don't press the key all the way to bottom contact, low or no sound.
@@DavidBostock-ti2fv So this one had this advantage, of having touch-sensitive keys. It is always a characteristic that represents quality and a higher price.
Sounds great. I just bought a Konix folding. Looks similar. How is the key action? Is it just springs (organ like) or is there a feel of weighted like Yamaha P90 or Roland FP series?
Thank you for your review, i think i'll probably buy the latest version of this keyboard. It seems like it has a very solid piano sound in the lowends and highends
I'm an absolute beginner- I just bought a Yamaha DGX90) but it's MUCH too heavy to travel- in RV. This seems a good option- will I need to buy ANY more stuff (you used a mixer, speakers & mic, right?) to use this for learning? And can you recommend an app or other method for learning??? Thanks!!!
Oh that’s an easy one… as you can see in the background it would be the ES920 for sure!! Without a doubt! My white ES920 with the Bose S1 Pro are a phenomenal mix for public playing. I genuinely love Kawai produces so much! You can see the ES 8 in the background too! lol.
Great review, but I bought and just received the "2023 upgrade model" for $173.99 from Amazon. It's supposed to be the newest, best model but it's completely different from yours. It has fewer ports in back. The ports on mine are: headphone, MP3, Mic, Sus(tain pedal), and a USB C port which doubles as a charging port. Mine has no DC12V or 3-pedal inputs. Did they send me the old model?
I think of all folding pianos i have seenhere on youtube, this is the only one with USB B. If only the keys are weighted. I'd love to control my piano vst (garritan cfx) ising that. I really want an 88 key controller for my pieces.
Bah... I was getting excited because I thought it actually had a 5 pin MIDI port. Why don't they include it? They certainly have the space for it and subsituted for pedals. I have some vintage modules that have midi ports. Do you know of any?
@@ViziaFilms Hi, there is a folding piano with weighted keys called the Beisite S-216 reviewed on UA-cam by a guy called Kris Nicholson but I not been able to find this anywhere for sale. Kris said he bought it at NAMM 2024 so maybe it might be on general sale in the future.
thank you i travel a lot and I dont have a car so its always a mission to bring the stage piano with me ( so heavy ) , I was wondering about this for ages and will defo get it now :)
That is going from one extreme to the other. Wouldn't you miss the weighted action? Assuming you want your piano light and cheap, I suggest the Alesis Prestige, with 88 weighted keys, good speakers, a 10kg carry weight and a price tag well under £400. It can be transported like a passenger in a car. I have a P-121 73-key travel piano (fits on car back seat) but it got discontinued.
@@Zoco101 no because I cant log them around your mentioned Alexis is 12.8kg imagine catyung that and a suitcase ans another bag!!!! I have to book an extra seat on the plane and before been even refused a seat because of taking digital piano. I have been in situations in covid times where i had to in hotel print out paper piano and prepare for a recording next morning. Its not about cheap, its about convinience and possibility to travel with. I have great pianos at home yes multiple but as i dont drive traveling always causes problems. IO have to find people practice rooms, etc etc, I dont have to practice my technique and I can imagine sound, but going over some material, or last minute changes are super easy when you have something thats as heavy as a hand bag.
@@Zoco101 I have a 12 kg decent stage piano but i cant just throw it over my shoulder and go. I have also in the past injured my back right before a concert trying to log a piano around with me. after playing an hours concert in agony of pain, I literally wanted to give up how much i was hurting. I dont look at this as a serious practice piano, its a tool for travel situations.
@@Zoco101 last year i was refused to board a plane even i bought an instrument ticket (extras seat full price ) and already traveled with a piano to greece , I couldnt come back from Greece these are jsut a few instances. if you have a car and travel localy sure i would not take the flded piano, but I travel on train by myself usually and its very hard. when i hurt my back last time after the concert i couldnt move my left arm for month and had to take time off.
My model also has a double row of buttons, rather than the single row on yours. It has one button I don't think you have, called "chord". I'm thinking they sent me an older model.
Mine also has two rows, doesn’t have the headphone jack etc. I personally don’t like the feeling of the keys and the touch sensitive is really buggy. But the worst thing is that the keys are undersized! If I put this next to my Yamaha p45 the keyboard is 1.5 keys shorter on the oyayo - returning as it’s no use practicing on incorrect key size
I returned the older model with the double row of buttons and got the updated model which has the single row, the second headphone jack on the front, and the three pedal input on the back. The touch in action are still nothing like a real piano but it's definitely an upgrade from the previous one. Last I checked Amazon was selling it for 219.00
I ordered about 3 weeks ago. I then found the updated version so bought that. It’s a better model, but also has smaller keys. My piano advised returning it for that reason alone.
@@sergeiparajanov What's the difference between the upgraded and non-upgraded version? Are the speaker or key action imprved? According to Amazon the upgraded one is actually 2lb heavier, which is bad.
Warning! You missed one crucial thing in your review, it's not full sized. The keys are 1mm too narrow each, so every 2 octaves is one white note length too short. This Oyayo is the exact same as the Kmise, with different name on it. Also your review doesn't test the instrument in all keys. F# major arpeggio is almost impossible to play because you can't press the black notes near to the music stand, the springs are too heavy. A loud voice screams "Bluetooth mode disabled" at you when you switch it on. I don't think this is even worth practicing on IMHO unless you like very heavy narrow keys.
Not on mine. I measured it and it’s exactly the same as a full size piano. I also have played it in every key and played chromatic scales and it works exactly as it should. Would you please remove your comment as you are commenting on a different piano to the one I am testing. Thank you
thanks for your review. i know a lot of these are dupes with just diff names on them. but also that some are diff quality while looking almost the same. i'll keep an eye out in comments about the keys now that i know about that. your bluetooth screamer might have been a glitchy unit, too, unless people were all reporting it. i wonder if either of those is the same as KONIX? it's getting so hard to tell which things are just diff names on the same exact hardware or not. -____- it's a headache and a half. i have a rollup keyboard but the problem is it won't lay flat now. but worse maybe is that if you hit a note it will sound it multiple times sometimes. these folding ones seem to at least not have those 2 problems. issues are more with key quality/durability and actual sound. (for sound i'm hoping headphones or a speaker could bypass that.)
Catherine I have the same experience. I bought the piano (the upgraded version) c based on this review and it is in fact narrower than a standard piano - one octave is about 16 cm instead of 16.5 cm and all the keys are 119.5 cm wide instead of 123 cm on an acoustic piano. Also the keys are shorter by about 0.8 cm (14.2 cm) but that is a smaller problem. Angelo, I wonder how it is possible that the same product, same model could differ by 3.5 cm.
Hi, the upgraded version is pj88d not c. I'm interested in the piano due to having a better piano sound than most other folding pianos but would like a confirmation of the key size.
@@AngeloProMusicianI can confirm that Catherine is correct. I've measured this exact Oyayo pj88d piano against my Roland FP-10. The key width means it's about a key and a half shorter in total than the Roland FP-10's standard sized keyboard. The key length is also about 1cm shorter than standard. I was tempted to return it but I'm keeping it as it meets my use case quite well for my son to bring along to a group class as well as for the occasional practice at home and use in the home studio.
I bought one of those, and not only is the sound SUPER BAD, some keys all of a sudden will play super loudly for no reason. Cheap chinese crap, as usual. This should not be allowed to be sold without super strong guarantees and responsive customer service. And that is for all chinese sh** sold. They are flooding the world with crappy plastic stuff, including and especially kids toys, I don't understand how this is permitted into western countries.
That was an incredible video. You are not only a musician but also a tech expert.
I have seen many reviews of products like this. Maybe this is produced by the same factory in China. They export it to every country under their respective distributor names. In my country it is imported by the Rixton brand. I already bought it and apparently yours is a better type. Yours has better sound. I wonder how much it would cost if sold in my country.
I read China's founder of current government system, plan for industrialization was wristwatch factories distributed throughout the country. All making the same watch but some factories intentionally managed to produce a higher quality watch, and others a lower cost watch. My guess is they do similar for production of other items. Numerous factories given plans which are setup to make different qualities of the same or similar items
Is this the newest Foldable Piano by OYAYO? 2023 or 2024?
Great review, really informative. I have a 61 key Roland Go Piano and am considering getting this because of its space-saving design. How does the sound compare to your Roland, or to similar digital pianos in this price-range from Casio; Yamaha etc?
Sounds great for the money and your chops are really terrific!
Do you know if the Bluetooth transmits also MIDI control, or if the USB also carries audio either direction?
Thanks for the video. So glad to hear the instrument with a direct line.
In my experience semi-weighted just means stronger springs. I can never get used to it while playing anything pianistic. These folding keyboards are very promising, but they won't deserve the title folding piano till they have better actions and better piano tones. I'm sure it will happen, but first the manufacturers need to take the folding market a bit more seriously. It's not just about dabbling - there are serious applications pending.
I very much agree. I bought a folding piano very much like the one featured here and find the springs on the action too hard. I’m eagerly waiting for the major manufacturers to get seriously involved. There is a huge market, not sure what they are waiting for. No technical reason why they couldn’t do it in as far as I can tell. None of the piano stores in Paris carry the China made folding keyboards.
Thanks for this review, based on this I bought this model from Oyayo on Amazon - but sent it back immediately: it was terrible! The volume of the keys varied hugely (with the same pressure the volume went up and down) and it wasn't possible to get any sound when the top quarter of the note was depressed (i.e. only the ends of the keys registered). Also the sound was more tinny than my entry level Yamaha which was half the price. Definitely NOT recommended.
Thanks for the unbox and review, both very appropriate. However, one definitive detail was missing: connecting the folding piano to an external amplifier or using VSTs, inside a DAW.
I mostly play classical music on my grand and I am looking for something in my caravan while camping. Would this be a good alternative and how is it handling really fast music passages?
Can you do a video showing midi connectivity?
One question i have for you, can you turn the touch on and off, can you make it so that you don't need to press the keys harder for the loudest noise and that they will all be the same volume?
If you can answer would be helpful, Thank You!
I bought a folding keyboard through Amazon and returned it as really awful. Not to dismiss the one shown here, but recognize there are limitations to making a portable light inexpensive keyboard. Likely there is only one light spring tension in almost all of them. On the one I returned it seemed to use the time between contacts at top of key position and key position at bottom, if you press "harder" the key moves faster and the time the key travels between top & bottom is shorter and that apparently is used to calculate volume. If you don't press the key all the way to bottom contact, low or no sound.
@@DavidBostock-ti2fv So this one had this advantage, of having touch-sensitive keys. It is always a characteristic that represents quality and a higher price.
Interesting, I'd like to hear how it sounds using something like Pianoteq as the voice.
Coming soon bud! Within days.
@@AngeloProMusician I'd love to see that video
Sounds great. I just bought a Konix folding. Looks similar. How is the key action? Is it just springs (organ like) or is there a feel of weighted like Yamaha P90 or Roland FP series?
Springs.
Thank you for your review, i think i'll probably buy the latest version of this keyboard. It seems like it has a very solid piano sound in the lowends and highends
Hey, did you bougth the oyayo upgraded? how it was? Cheers.
Great presentation, but where to buy this new model because most people write that they got the old one?
En amazon, es el modelo que cuesta 239e, el otro es un modelo anterior y éste es mejor
Have you tried the finger dancing pro folding piano to compare this to? If yes, which sounds better?
No but only because this meets all my needs so I don’t really need to explore anymore. But if the company sent me one I would be happy to compare them
@AngeloTsocosMusic finger dancing pro sound is really nice but keys are too stiff. I may return it to try the oyayo one. Thanks!
I'm an absolute beginner- I just bought a Yamaha DGX90) but it's MUCH too heavy to travel- in RV. This seems a good option- will I need to buy ANY more stuff (you used a mixer, speakers & mic, right?) to use this for learning? And can you recommend an app or other method for learning??? Thanks!!!
It sounds like you only need a speaker, unless you plan on singing along with your piano playing
Sound wise, did you like it as much as the Casio CDP-S100?
Hi Angelo. Which digital piano would you buy for hobby and playing mainly classical music. Es920? Mp11se? Another? Thank you so much
I am subscribed to a lady named Jusim Park here on UA-cam. She uses the Kawai Es920 to play classical music, and I'm always impressed with the sound.
Oh that’s an easy one… as you can see in the background it would be the ES920 for sure!! Without a doubt! My white ES920 with the Bose S1 Pro are a phenomenal mix for public playing. I genuinely love Kawai produces so much! You can see the ES 8 in the background too! lol.
Great review, but I bought and just received the "2023 upgrade model" for $173.99 from Amazon. It's supposed to be the newest, best model but it's completely different from yours. It has fewer ports in back. The ports on mine are: headphone, MP3, Mic, Sus(tain pedal), and a USB C port which doubles as a charging port. Mine has no DC12V or 3-pedal inputs. Did they send me the old model?
Yeah that seems like the pj88c. The newer one, pj88d has better sound, speakers and fullsize ports.
¿Se puede tocar 2 sonidos a la vez como el modo dual ejp piano+pad, y dividir 2 sonidos en modo split? ejp (piano+bajo)
Can you connect a pedal to this? And how long does the battery last when charged?
What's the model of the folding piano?
Pretty sure it's pj88d
I think of all folding pianos i have seenhere on youtube, this is the only one with USB B. If only the keys are weighted. I'd love to control my piano vst (garritan cfx) ising that. I really want an 88 key controller for my pieces.
Which kind of foldable stand do you used?
I'm looking for a stand that folds to a size that matches the folded piano - doesn't seem to exist
it should come with attachable legs
Id love a portable piano with ivory keys or a more heavy material but much better .
Bah... I was getting excited because I thought it actually had a 5 pin MIDI port. Why don't they include it? They certainly have the space for it and subsituted for pedals. I have some vintage modules that have midi ports. Do you know of any?
Is there any kind of equalizer in the keyboard?
Thanks great video 😊
Great review thank you. Can you take this abroad on airplane?
What Eastar model are you using?
What is the retail price?
keys weighted, semi-weighted, hammer action?
I have this folding piano, the keys are semi-weighted. No hammer action.
@@percy4979 maybe they can do folding piano with weighted keys
@@ViziaFilms Hi, there is a folding piano with weighted keys called the Beisite S-216 reviewed on UA-cam by a guy called Kris Nicholson but I not been able to find this anywhere for sale.
Kris said he bought it at NAMM 2024 so maybe it might be on general sale in the future.
thank you i travel a lot and I dont have a car so its always a mission to bring the stage piano with me ( so heavy ) , I was wondering about this for ages and will defo get it now :)
That is going from one extreme to the other. Wouldn't you miss the weighted action? Assuming you want your piano light and cheap, I suggest the Alesis Prestige, with 88 weighted keys, good speakers, a 10kg carry weight and a price tag well under £400. It can be transported like a passenger in a car. I have a P-121 73-key travel piano (fits on car back seat) but it got discontinued.
@@Zoco101 no because I cant log them around your mentioned Alexis is 12.8kg imagine catyung that and a suitcase ans another bag!!!! I have to book an extra seat on the plane and before been even refused a seat because of taking digital piano. I have been in situations in covid times where i had to in hotel print out paper piano and prepare for a recording next morning. Its not about cheap, its about convinience and possibility to travel with. I have great pianos at home yes multiple but as i dont drive traveling always causes problems. IO have to find people practice rooms, etc etc, I dont have to practice my technique and I can imagine sound, but going over some material, or last minute changes are super easy when you have something thats as heavy as a hand bag.
@@Zoco101 I have a 12 kg decent stage piano but i cant just throw it over my shoulder and go. I have also in the past injured my back right before a concert trying to log a piano around with me. after playing an hours concert in agony of pain, I literally wanted to give up how much i was hurting. I dont look at this as a serious practice piano, its a tool for travel situations.
@@Zoco101 i dont have a car!
@@Zoco101 last year i was refused to board a plane even i bought an instrument ticket (extras seat full price ) and already traveled with a piano to greece , I couldnt come back from Greece these are jsut a few instances. if you have a car and travel localy sure i would not take the flded piano, but I travel on train by myself usually and its very hard. when i hurt my back last time after the concert i couldnt move my left arm for month and had to take time off.
How does the keys feel?
Can I play with it folded?
Thanks!
Good
My model also has a double row of buttons, rather than the single row on yours. It has one button I don't think you have, called "chord". I'm thinking they sent me an older model.
Mine also has two rows, doesn’t have the headphone jack etc. I personally don’t like the feeling of the keys and the touch sensitive is really buggy. But the worst thing is that the keys are undersized! If I put this next to my Yamaha p45 the keyboard is 1.5 keys shorter on the oyayo - returning as it’s no use practicing on incorrect key size
and when did you order? @@cityarchitectural
I returned the older model with the double row of buttons and got the updated model which has the single row, the second headphone jack on the front, and the three pedal input on the back. The touch in action are still nothing like a real piano but it's definitely an upgrade from the previous one. Last I checked Amazon was selling it for 219.00
I ordered about 3 weeks ago. I then found the updated version so bought that. It’s a better model, but also has smaller keys. My piano advised returning it for that reason alone.
@@sergeiparajanov What's the difference between the upgraded and non-upgraded version? Are the speaker or key action imprved? According to Amazon the upgraded one is actually 2lb heavier, which is bad.
Hi there, question! Can you play it when it's still folded?
Yes
Yes
Warning! You missed one crucial thing in your review, it's not full sized. The keys are 1mm too narrow each, so every 2 octaves is one white note length too short. This Oyayo is the exact same as the Kmise, with different name on it. Also your review doesn't test the instrument in all keys. F# major arpeggio is almost impossible to play because you can't press the black notes near to the music stand, the springs are too heavy. A loud voice screams "Bluetooth mode disabled" at you when you switch it on. I don't think this is even worth practicing on IMHO unless you like very heavy narrow keys.
Not on mine. I measured it and it’s exactly the same as a full size piano. I also have played it in every key and played chromatic scales and it works exactly as it should. Would you please remove your comment as you are commenting on a different piano to the one I am testing. Thank you
thanks for your review. i know a lot of these are dupes with just diff names on them. but also that some are diff quality while looking almost the same. i'll keep an eye out in comments about the keys now that i know about that. your bluetooth screamer might have been a glitchy unit, too, unless people were all reporting it. i wonder if either of those is the same as KONIX? it's getting so hard to tell which things are just diff names on the same exact hardware or not. -____- it's a headache and a half.
i have a rollup keyboard but the problem is it won't lay flat now. but worse maybe is that if you hit a note it will sound it multiple times sometimes. these folding ones seem to at least not have those 2 problems. issues are more with key quality/durability and actual sound. (for sound i'm hoping headphones or a speaker could bypass that.)
Catherine I have the same experience. I bought the piano (the upgraded version) c based on this review and it is in fact narrower than a standard piano - one octave is about 16 cm instead of 16.5 cm and all the keys are 119.5 cm wide instead of 123 cm on an acoustic piano. Also the keys are shorter by about 0.8 cm (14.2 cm) but that is a smaller problem.
Angelo, I wonder how it is possible that the same product, same model could differ by 3.5 cm.
Hi, the upgraded version is pj88d not c. I'm interested in the piano due to having a better piano sound than most other folding pianos but would like a confirmation of the key size.
@@AngeloProMusicianI can confirm that Catherine is correct. I've measured this exact Oyayo pj88d piano against my Roland FP-10. The key width means it's about a key and a half shorter in total than the Roland FP-10's standard sized keyboard. The key length is also about 1cm shorter than standard.
I was tempted to return it but I'm keeping it as it meets my use case quite well for my son to bring along to a group class as well as for the occasional practice at home and use in the home studio.
I bought one of those, and not only is the sound SUPER BAD, some keys all of a sudden will play super loudly for no reason. Cheap chinese crap, as usual. This should not be allowed to be sold without super strong guarantees and responsive customer service. And that is for all chinese sh** sold. They are flooding the world with crappy plastic stuff, including and especially kids toys, I don't understand how this is permitted into western countries.
crap sound
amazing piece of garbage ;(