Ike's observations and grievances over living in Sweden
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i dunno how norway compares to sweden (i'm assuming they're relatively similar) but im norwegian and i had to wait 8 months for an adhd evaluation 💀
I have a friend who lives in Norway..she waited a year for her foot to be evaluated for surgery. Then waited practically another year for the surgery to happen..but then it got delayed for like 6 months because of some dumb reason I can't remember. Then..she was told that the surgery may not even help in the long run..it was pretty insane.
Norway here as well it took 7 months for me to be diagnosed with autism. The health care for trans people is awful with waiting too and just gets worse by time.
as a swede i can relate to this because a few years ago i broke my wrist and went to the hospital and i had to wait in the waiting room for like an hour and when the doctor finally checked my wrist he sent me to get an x-ray and i spent almost 3 hours waiting and when my results came back i was immediately sent to the er because my x-ray showed a fracture in my wrist and i spent 9 hours waiting for a barely 5 minute conversation with a doctor to give me some bandages and send me back home😭
Those stories remind me of my mum trying to go to rehabilitation bc she had a bad neck/back pain. She had scheduled her visit in October last year and the first available date was in April this year. When the time finally came she went there only to be told it was a visit so they can schedule her rehabilitation for December (she already had referral since mid October last year). From what I know the same thing happens if you brake a bone or need rehabilitation after surgery. So what most people who have money do is go to private clinics to not block the schedule for others who don't have the money (or this is what people who have at least some compassion do)
Other weird thing is that my country's government thought it's such a great idea to have repercussions for not showing up for long term appointments. As if people choose to do that... It's usually because the waiting lists for some specialists are years long and people either forget that they even had them or more likely (especially if the patient was in a very bad condition or was just an elderly person) they died and no one other than them knew they had this appointment and didn't know it had to be cancelled (e. g. my grandma got scheduled for and appointment with a cardiologist a few days before she died - the appointment was for two years later, fortunately my aunt also knew about it). One would say" why don't you have an online system to track the medical stuff. We do have one but it doesn't automatically cancele the appointments when a person dies
When the only comment is the longest comment🙃
I'm in the US, and the amount of time he waited with his appendix was about the same I waited, so, yeah...
Edit: I should also add, they probably make you wait several hours like this so you have nothing in your stomach by the time they do surgery.
Yeah, I took my friend to the ER because she had appendicitis and she waited in the waiting room for 4 hours before they took her back. After that she waited another two hours before they prepped her for surgery. She had severe nausea from the pain though, so her stomach was empty. I think they made her wait cause she was considered 'low priority'
Problem is that your appendix can burst if you wait too long which would cause you to essentially have poop inside areas of your body where it's not supposed to be..which can be even worse for you because it can cause infections and/or you can die. It's not good.
The swedish mental health care system is a joke. I had to wait 3 years to start the process of getting diagnosed with autism and ADD and when I got my dignosis they told me over phone!! and i then had to wait another 1 and a half to get an appointment to talk about medication. And all of that was as an adult the mental health care for children, BUP (Barn och ungdoms psykiatrin, Children and youth psychiatry) is even worse. I haven't heard about a single positive experience with them. They are so bad at dealing with children and family in crisis and they don't take shit seriously, I remember telling a therapist there when i was 14 that i was dealing with anxiety, she gave me a one sided peice of paper with breathing technices and this was after WEEKS of visits in which i got no help with how to deal with my emotions about the shit happening at school and i instead had to just retell her the same story every week.
I can relate to that with the NHS. I’m considering if it’s a joke because I am still waiting about 2 years later to be diagnosed or be evaluated for Autism, ADD, anxiety etc. also my brother who since as little as 2 months old showed many MANY signs of autism and had to wait until he was 2 years old to actually be diagnosed with autism. This BS is a effing joke.
0:40 in Brazil it is even worse. My grandmother had a stroke and was completely unconscious for a long time. Almost a whole day passed and NO DOCTOR AT ALL looked up for her. My mom and my aunts had to buy an ambulance and paying a treatment in a better hospital. My grandma is alive to this day, but she can not move the left side of her body.
At least that shit is free, but pray for not depending your life in brazilian health system.
And in the US it has long ass waiting times, the care is terrible, AND you can't afford it, woof. I got quoted a one year out appointment once. Thankfully I was able to find someone who could see me sooner than that
According to Georgraphy now, I think about 10% of all Swedes are enrolled in private health care for this reason.
I live in Canada and I waited 10+ hours in the ER and didn't even get admitted or seen by a doctor (excluding a once-over right then and there in the waiting room by a nurse, though it was purely to clean out the wound and give me pain meds), even though I had an injury that was infected and had given me lymphangitis. Thankfully it spread slowly and was far from my heart, and I got treatment at a different ER with only 3 hours of wait time.
We kinda have the same in France. You don't have to pay an enormous amount of money, actually you don't have to pay anything I think. But man you have to wait hours to get examined, because we don't have enough people working in hospitals. We have a huge lack of nurses, doctors, surgeons and all that. And when you call an ambulance, you have to wait for like 30 minutes while you're dying so instead you call the firemen but they take you to the emergency department. In which you have to wait for hours. Great.
Well I guess the waiting time is caused by not having enough people working in healthcare?
I find it shocking that this is the case in so so many countries…
Why does everyone country do the same mistake when it comes to healthcare?
Lacking fund to pay medical worker properly
People dying in the waiting rooms is mostly just that, horror stories. If you have some real life threatening emergencies, you get priority. That's why when you have non-life threatening emergencies you might have to stick around forever, because you just aren't a priority patient. It's not optimal, but I'll take a long wait time over having to spend my entire net worth for every doctors appointment.
this is why Sweden has the saddest city in the world. ;-;
No wonder during the Covid pandemic, lots of foreign (European) people were surprised and loved our healthcare system, I didn’t know that theirs are THAT bad. I’m so glad I was born here. I once had horrible stomachache, I was rushed to a hospital nearby and they immediately gave me pain relief. If I was in Europe would they have let me wait there in pain?
well, in my country, Health care is free.
Yeah swedens healthcare suuucks.. Im trying to get help with my sleeping issues and ribcage/breathing, they are not listening at all. I have to have someone with me or else they wont listen, i bet its because im autistic -.- i like living in sweden because of the 4 seasons, it doesnt get too hot and other stuff but damn its tiring to live here when the government doesnt do jackshit
When I broke my arm I waited 4h for someone to look at my arm and then they made me wait 2 more hours to meet someone else just to tell me that I broke my arm in a place where they couldn’t put a cast on it (idk even know how, I broke something around my elbow which was impossible to heal with a cast apparently) so they sent me home.
Like couldn’t you have told me that 2h ago😭
Sweden healthcare
I had a seizure before and my friend called the ambulance for me but I was lucky to wake up from the seizure before it had the chance to take off and I literally refused to go with them because I know that if I were to go with them I would’ve had to stay at the hospital for 5 hours and I’m not doing that
well... At least I'm glad that in my country have Simi 🤣
the reason i really like my husbands healthcare system in his home country is that they have hospitals, clinics and private doctors.
clinics are considered better than hospitals for emergencies which i find weird, tey tend to have better overall care than hospitals, but for private doctors unless you come at the very end of the day around closing for anything walks in's can be seen the same day and appointments are in and out by timestamps. you also just pay the doctors what they price you, and you can pick up medications from any pharmacy anywhere.
living in the US makes me wonder why we have a system like this, private or social...wait times are just as terrible, sometimes hospitals wont even accept you and can throw you out if your not covered, they charge you for an ambulance ride, and they overcharge you a lot of times because they don't check bills themselves and apparently don't expect patients to as well and just pay it. Insurance can add or remove anything they want at any point, including certain doctors, exams or procedures, they inflate life saving medicine, and you still pay co-payments on top of monthly payments. its just a mess like most health insurance worldwide.