This is what we need more of. Educated people having conversations, regardless of whether or not they agree or not. Nowadays people are too scared to converse and feel disagreement is disrespect.
Vevek, I'm more aligned with you politically but you and Mark have a great opportunity to REALLY solve many of the problems in our country.Please, more of these debates.
Exactly. When people don't cancel everyone who doesn't agree with them all the time, different ideas can come together so that everyone wins. These two are a great model.
Mark and Vivek do not have the opportunity to solve these problems. Cuban truly believes that the best and smartest in the world, a group in which he believes he belongs, can lift up the rest of the poor, disadvantaged peasants. Trump and Cuban share this view, as do most of our elitist politicians. Vivek is different. He believes the individual, with God's help, must not be a victim waiting for someone else to offer welfare and must work for it. Given freedom, one can succeed.
Vivek, please do a segment like this with Pete Buttiguieg. You are each on the opposite sides of the poles and can both respectfully debate on all things politics. Set it up where each ‘round’ of 20 minutes or so deals with a specific issue: economy, foreign policy, education, etc… that would be extremely beneficial for our country. Thanks!!
Wow. One of the best conversations i've listened to in awhile. Almost ZERO agreement, yet ZERO disrespect, negativity, or slander. If you walked away from this video with negative feelings, YOU are part of the problem.
@@ilovethewiggle-crypto8033 Fair enough, but Vivek is a big boy and has no prob handling bad faith conversations. I honestly just felt Mark was really excited to have a conversation longer than a couple hundred characters, I don't think he was doing it to be rude or disrespectful. Maybe Vivek got that vibe too, they seem pretty friendly to one another.
These open discussions are an absolute treat, Vivek. I love listening to them. You are truly a resounding voice for this country and I see a lot of potential in you.
vivek is so respectful, hes someone who genuinely cares, has clarity of thought, extremely articulate, is humble, his leadership needs to shine in bringing efficiency in government. i hope he gets picked for a key role in the new govt
Vivek, you are the most patient articulate man I’ve ever witnessed. Thank you for sticking with people even though they can be very abrasive and overbearing. Appreciate the work you’re doing!
Did you people miss the debates he was in??!! Ramasawmy is waaay too emontional! He's ill-tempered, he belittles people, i.e. name calling, etc. That is why he got the lowest score of all the candiates in the debate. Wake up!
@@kathimonter6855 You LIAR. Vivek is a clown because he treats the demons too kindly. You have to be FIRM with evil, barking at the beast to BACK OFF!! Weakness is open season for Satan.
hey vivek, massive respect man. you held your ground and you did it with grace and confidence. the way you handle disagreements truly brings more and more people together. most humans have so much in common but the media inflates the things we don’t agree about to make the situation worse. “a house divided cannot stand” however you bring unity to opposition in a way i haven’t witnessed in my lifetime as a young man. Truly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you sir.
Under Obama nobody knows anyone who got deported.. he simply turned em’ around at the border and called it a deportation after briefly letting them in. Trump did similar but tried to secure illegal crossing & “close” the border..
Both Vivek and Cuban failed to accurately convey the history and actual application of AA, EEO, EEO-1 reporting and EEO-4 reporting; plus (as non-disabled individuals) they completely ignored the impact of ADA on AA/EEO. Vivek and Cuban entirely missed the point of the Johnny-come-lately skewed and failed application of DEI. I'm a subject matter expert in AA/EEO/ADA/DEI and it's particularly annoying to listen to two "elite," politically powerful and affluent men, one man of color and one White man, talk about a subject for which they hold absolutely no expertise.
I don't think I've ever had a political disagreement that wasn't respectful, because I've always genuinely respect the person I was talking to, and I think most people feel the same. I think most of the time when you get some on the Left freaking out over someone defending Trump's actions or praising him, or someone on the Right freaking out over someone calling Trump out for lying or underperforming in office, most of that happens in the Media, because it gets views. Most people on the ground do respect each other, and the spazzy people are the outliers.
More open discussions like this needs to happen. Sticking with “the home team” and not having an open mind for civil discussion is the worst thing that can happen.
@tsemlesentimental6051 exactly. Mark was more than gracious to let Vivek finish his points. Every time Vivek saw that he was getting his ass handed to him, he interrupted or changed the subject. That dude better watch the podcast again. This must be his version of the woman who caught her husband in bed with another woman and asked her, who you are going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?" 😆😆 😂 🤣
Wanted to comment something similar. This is a great conversation that EVERYBODY CAN LEARN FROM. I lean left, for sure, but gained a ton of respect for Ramaswamy because he enabled an open-minded converversation. The right needs less Trump and more Ramaswamey to ever get my vote.
Vivek continues to impress me as Mark Cuban always had. Two great minds having healthy debate about solid issues. Vivek has proven to be not only super intelligent but authentic and a master at articulating his views impactfully, without offending opposing views. I hope he continues to be a prominent figure in the political arena for years to come.
"I always learn something from Mark....except his politics" highlights that Vivek isn't interested in an open and honest discussion, because he could learn something from Cuban, he just refuses too. The fact that you think it's a "great opening" confirms that that you are the same as Vivek, you're not interested in discussion, you simply want people to agree with your politics.
Contrary to most of these comments, I think this was a great conversation. I definitely agree with Vivek, but Cuban was definitely not disrespectful like everyone is claiming. Honestly this is what confident, healthy disagreement looks like. Sure there were passionate outbursts, but they treated each other with respect and expressed disagreements without character attacks, straw manning the other position, or pretentious smugness. I’ll take this over 99% of the “debates” that are aired today. Thanks Mark Cuban for taking the time to have a discussion with Americas future president! Vivek 2028 🇺🇸
Lol, you're right. Didn't interrupt vivek a single time. Didn't raise his voice a single time. Definitely clearly answered half the questions Vivek asked, right? The only reason this debate was 'respectful' was 110% because Vivek is classy af. Mark is a POS.
I couldn't agree with you more. Did people even watch it?? The comments out here show exactly what's wrong with this country and shows why we're so divided. People are so negative.
Regardless of my personal political opinions, I love the fact that these two people were able to discuss charged issues for over an hour. This is what we need more of.
Social and mainstream media skew the news so much that everything is extremely divisive. It’s refreshing to see two people have a discussion where they can explore common ground and differing viewpoints openly. This is how neighbors should break bread, even if they watch different news channels.
Vivek, we need a part 2, please. If not, no biggie. Y'all are busy. I sincerely appreciate the both of you. I believe discussions like these, for everyone to see, inherently keeps us on track to Make America Greater Than It Has Ever Been. Many thanks for all that you do!
I can't understand how some people believe a candidate's character plays no part in their voting decision.If a person shows again and again he's not trustworthy,why would you support him and not someone else?
It's literally cultist behavior. It's the same reason that tons of people throughout history have pledged their allegiance & lives to people like Manson, Jones, Koresh, etc. even when they've seen them lie & commit atrocities with their own eyes. It's far more easier for someone to make justifications for horrible behavior, than it is for them to ever admit they were conned.
Ya, I've been saying this since 2016. It's always a bad idea to assign leadership to an extreme narcissist. That's just asking for trouble. We have decades worth of examples that show us the man can't be trusted, cares about nothing except his own interests, is a pathological liar, with no sense of morality. Aside from the practical problems that arise from this, I think one of the jobs of a President is to unite and inspire. I think it's important to have someone in that office that our children can look up to and aspire to be like. If I had younger children, I wouldn't even want them watching most of Trump's speeches!
Exactly! Harris is a good example! She has continued to lie about the border. She is completely complicit in defrauding the American people over Biden, then did not go through any process to steal Biden’s candidacy. She is not someone I can trust. I’m not happy with Trump but he is head and shoulders over Harris.
Every time i hear vivek speak i am throughly impressed with his ability to articulate a conversation, hes so well spoken for a guy at his age , its mind boggling to me, his ability to discuss topics with such clear and concise meaning, i mean throw esg out the window , the true problem with america is the fact that it is run by the industrial complex and the military and there whole montra of dumbing down the american public by backing leaders like kamala harris, who is about as smart as an eggplant versus a guy like vivek who could teach people so much, and lead the country down the correct path without the worry of corruption. corruption is the root problem, vivek could fix it i know that. great interview max respect.
It's very refreshing to watch/listen to a conversation between two highly successful individuals with different political opinions. We need more of this!
Kudos to Vivek and Mark Cuban both. We need more civic dialogue like this. Thank you for modeling that we can talk about things we have differing opinions on and gain perspective from each other and better understand and appreciate each other. If we could learn to have more dialogue in this manner (seeking to understand with respect) we would find there is more that unites us than divide us.
This is an incredible discussion. Have you EVER heard a discussion between two incredibly successful and intelligent people who were willing to have an honest, deep, philosophical and economics-based discussion on government diversity programs etc? No name-calling, straw-mans or bumper sticker slogans??? WE NEED MORE OF THIS!!! and THANK YOU Vivek for making this happen!
A person that supports & will vote for a Marxist is also one & doesn't love his country or it's people. He really knows the true side of Trump but refuses to admit it & basically he's jealous of the fact DT became president & he didn't. When he announced to also run for the presidency he didn't have the backup that Trumphad. He even said he would be a better president than Trump. He's a back stabber because he used to be his friend. I have no respect for him, again he betrays anyone if there is a financial benefit for himself & his bull dog ego. A big mouth rich guy with no ethics. He only loves himself & thinks he knows it all. Good for Vivek who kept his cool & behaved intelligent & on control with all the bull dog interruptions. Vivek will make a good president 2028.
I enjoyed hearing these two talk back and forth a lot more than I thought I would. Civil, friendly, disagreeing, both intelligent, both really good points. Wow, this is what I feel like a presidential debate SHOULD be like.
Unfortunately some of the big talking heads on the right won't even give him a chance in your party solely because of his race.. Ann Coulter.. I belive alot of folks feel just like her sadly
Great debate between two smart men who have very different world views and yet they both sparred with respect and a smile on their faces. More of this please!
This was probably one of the best comments I’ve seen after reading a lot of these other comments gives me hope. People we could have disagreements and still respect each other just because we don’t agree with your opinions or you don’t agree with our opinions doesn’t make us wrong and it doesn’t make you wrong.
@@jamesbrown9607 Vivek didn't let Mark finish what he was saying. Mark was ripping into Trump and Vivek just cut him off, and simply wouldn't agree that Trump is a corrupt immoral person that should not be President again. People should read three books by David Cay Johnston that cover Trump, his policies in the first year in office and how he was committing a self serving behavior to enrich himself and family. Check them out.
@@redfisher5378lol it’ll be an echo chamber of MAGA agenda and no accountability. Not saying that all of MAGA is bad, but people that associate with MAGA often like to act like some of these issues don’t exist.
I think people learn more when both sides are argued well, like in this EXCELLENT debate on DEI. Well done, Vivek and Mark! We need more multipolar discussions to get people out of their comfy echo chambers.
Mark's DEI definition is not what is put forth as DEI in general. I think if this was how DEI was put into action there would be very little push back. I think Mr. Cuban is an exception rather than the rule. This conversation is EXACTLY what this country needs...honest debate where folks can disagree without demonizing each other
Agreed. Mark Cuban's definition implied that there is all this talent amongst minorities that is actively being ignored by companies (at the cost of their profits!?), and DEI is companies attempts to open their eyes to this talent. This implies that either a) minorities have 0 ability to promote themselves to businesses, or b) that businesses actively discriminate against minorities in their hiring practices. I don't think either is happening. Which one is it Mark. That being said, I did love this interview and wish Vivek let Mark complete his thoughts more often. I think Mark is correct in his criticism of Trump on the ethical basis, although Kamala isn't any better.
Most respectfully, Vivek and Mark, with regard to AA/EEO/DEI your mutual comments reek of an overt lack of subject matter expertise. FACT: The socioeconomic status for the overwhelming majority of Black people NEVER improved as a result of AA/EEO/DEI. There are more "token" Negroes, primarily being "showcased" in sports and entertainment, while the wage and income gap between White and Blacks has perpetually increased; segregation has increased; minority home ownership has decreased; the traditional Black family and marriages is essentially non-existent; etc. Even worse, as researched by Derenoncourt, Chi Hyun Kim, Kuhn, and Schularick in their March 8, 2021 report, “The Racial Wealth Gap, 1860 - 2020,” the wealth gap between Blacks and Whites has never been abated, has only increased significantly, and most importantly, if present trends in the data continue, the racial wealth gap is headed to a steady state with average White wealth at least five times greater than average Black wealth - even through 2260! Please, instead of being "armchair quarterbacks," learn more about the "reality of AA/EEO/DEI" by reading this: tripoetry.com/Letters/reynoldsrap-blackpeople5.htm or watch this: ua-cam.com/video/M_yx9LE6qd0/v-deo.html
How do you know what you are saying is true? People place their own meaning on things. The truth is that DEI effects white people too. I went to an HBCU where white students received minority scholarships. I think that's fair.
The only thing that worries me if they talk is if they start talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time
He is much more articulate than Ron Paul. As much as I love and respect Dr Paul, I sometimes wished he could have articulated this thoughts better and being punchy and straight to the point. Vivek is flawless. Try and see if he ever uses a filler word.
Appreciate the open discussion and not ever being afraid to talk with opposing viewpoints. Hope the intention is to keep this up for not just the rest of this election cycle but moving forward. The country needs this now more than ever.
Vivek thank you for sharing this discussion with Mark Cuban. I believe finding common ground and giving credit where it’s due is important to having civil discussions with people who you fundamentally disagree with. No minds were changed in a 1 hour discussion but you both ended your discussion professionally and respectfully. You had my support in 2024 and have it in the future. I hope to see you as president in 2028.
@tabor503 baby steps! Lol. Both men had their options for sure and it's hard when you're up against a clock. Would've been great if they had a few hours to get all their options out. I agree with you but I'll still take this type of condo over the debate style of gotcha rhetorical back and forth. Or worse, yelling over each other. It was far from perfect but perfectly ok imo.
Really appreciate the conversation. For one who really wants to listen, and get perspective from folks who are intelligent and aren’t in agreement on many of these issues.
I'm absolutely blown away by the vigor and intellect in this debate. These two need a weekly segment until Mark runs out things to say. Such respect and admiration for both of these men AND their service to their ideas.
I don’t agree with many of Mark’s views on these topics, but it gives me hope when 2 people with different believes can sit down and have a civilized conversation, kudos to both.
It was only civil because Vivek was tolerant of Cuban’s waterfall talking over him on every important point over which there was disagreement. That’s what bullies do. That’s what people with weak cases to plead, do.
@@CharlesFosterMalloy, It's been proven that Vivek will lay down and roll over for a billionaire. Mark is just a veteran Billionaire. Vivek is humble bragging always. I don't think MC would have shark tank'd VS's drug.
Both Vivek and Cuban failed to accurately convey the history and actual application of AA, EEO, EEO-1 reporting and EEO-4 reporting; plus (as non-disabled individuals) they completely ignored the impact of ADA on AA/EEO. Vivek and Cuban entirely missed the point of the Johnny-come-lately skewed and failed application of DEI. I'm a subject matter expert in AA/EEO/ADA/DEI and it's particularly annoying to listen to two "elite," politically powerful and affluent men, one man of color and one White man, talk about a subject for which they hold absolutely no expertise.
Vivek… you may never see this but you are so great. I am saddened that you were not chosen at Presidential candidate this time… but please continue to do what you do. You are exactly what America needs.
@@thatWanderingSoul Oh sorry I don't know actually I was just assuming. There was so much praise and expectations, you'd think they must have discussed about it. I just think Vivek is too smart to be a side job.
These 2 men have the best chance of solving social issues in our country. I listened and didn't feel as though anyone was trying to deceive me in thinking a certain way. Great Debate!
Vivek im an Ohio guy born & raised much respect for your intelligence and the info you give us & always having class with dealing with ppl so much better than watching mainstream short interviews where they talk over ppl & just wanna trash each other
He’s not just a random young guy from Ohio. He’s the son of Indian parents who worked for GE Aviation whose HQ is in OH and why did his parents from India get a Job at GE? That other thing you Trump supporters hate: Globalization. Funny when it works and Vivek is a shining example of DEI / Globalization his parents benefited from. Wow only takes one generation to forget.
@@KC53557 Funny how think Globalisation is same as DEI. Also how in the hell is Vivek an example of DEI? He earned everything without asking for reverse discrimination.
@@arun31000 via his parents, they didn’t get their jobs because of merit only, they got them because John Rice decided it was a good idea to open up huge operations in India and China to find ways for GE to make stuff cheaper thereby opening operations in those countries. GE like many other companies discovered there were brilliant hard working folks in India and opened up the path for them to emigrate to the US. Without him you would know Vivek.
It really is exhausting and so rude to watch and listen to this conversation. You have one guy trying to make a cogent argument and the other guy constantly emotionally interrupting and for what? He rarely has any intelligence in his argument. It sounds virtually entirely emotional and lacking in logic and common sense
@@travisjazzbo3490 Mark is operating at an emotional level and has a fundamental belief that more government involvement in our lives can make things "better".
I love Vivek. Mark would happily live in a tyranny so long as he was one of the survivors and lived in comfort. Survival of the fittest. Meanwhile the rest of us have been sacrificed to the climate overlords.in the depopulation plan. This is why Vivek should be in politics because he has genuine compassion for humanity. Mark has compassion also he just dosnt understand the full effects of some of his ideas.
Amazingly well said friend. ----- Disclaimer: I don't know Mark's life story of success from it's inception. Meaning, I don't know whether he came from nothing or if he had a helping hand. ----- The above being said - even if he did come from humble beginnings, he's been so very far from that life for so very long that he can't possibly have the perspective of the common working man. I don't think he's a bad dude. And I do think he's brilliant in many ways. But he's so what out of touch. Then again - anyone at his level for that long is likely to be far more woke and unreasonable. Mark still seems to have boundaries. For example - I find it hard to believe that he'd be cool with supporting dudes in women's sports.
This reminds me that all this “political opponents” are friends and they have adult conversations among themselves. I like how they disagree like normal adults and both of them get to share their point of views. We need more of this!
Vivek and Mark, you guys are 2 of my favorite personalities in the US. This conversation beat the hell out of the Elon / Trump conversation. It's an incredibly revealing and informative conversation. A bit uncomfortable at points, but that's what makes it so good. Please keep this going and dig deeper into those issues that you guys covered in the last 15 minutes that got cut short. Great stuff!
This was a great discussion. I felt that both of them are genuinely arguing for what they think is best for the future and even though they disagreed on a lot, they did it very respectfully and it never got personal. How refreshing. I hope there is a part 2.
It's refreshing to see a Democrat and Republican engaging in a respectful conversation, valuing each other's perspectives without resorting to insults.
Vivek got everything nailed about DEI. Business owners and leaders can't let DEI on top of qualifications when looking for talents to accomplish missions. Vivek's DEI definition: Determination. Excellence. Integrity Mark's DEI definition: Didn't Earn It
It's always funny when the .1% attempt to appease the mob with this DEI nonsense, in order to avoid the mob coming for them.....These people never learn, it's only a matter of time til the mob does come.....Eat the rich isn't just a saying, it's their philosophy, they will use the rich to advance their cause but that usefulness will come to an end at some point.
let me guess, your white, haha tell me your racist without telling me your racist. The whole point of DEI is because of the long history of discrimination in hiring against minorities.
I love Mark and I love Vivek. My ideal politicians are people like these, where policies and actions to be taken are debated. Hopefully, we'll be able to see a world of more politiciwithcthese traits
I love how Cuban redefines "DEI" his way to cover up the true nature of it. It has nothing to do with the real world. Picking a a black woman in the name of DEI and not because she's sharp and knows what she's doing is a insult to her and her family. Picking the right person for the job is a honest business decision. Business isn't a social service, it's about making money. Who cares about the color of the skin. He can lie to himself all he wants.
He is simply saying let the companies who support DEI fail to prove the point that DEI is bad. While in the same breath, he says even if there is 1% evidence that climate change is real, we have to be prepared for it. Why don't he use the same logic for DEI? Even if there is 1% evidence that DEI can cause life and death situations in many jobs, why should we even try DEI?
Mark is saying let the companies who support DEI fail to prove the point that DEI is bad. While in the same breath, he says even if there is 1% evidence that climate change is real, we have to be prepared for it. Why don't he use the same logic for DEI? Even if there is 1% evidence that DEI can cause life and death situations in many jobs, why should we even try DEI?
@@WhoWhatWhy_123 Yeah. Cuban is shrewd, probably in a bad way. Is he trying to encourage companies to fail to lessen the competition? He reminds me of a far leftest coworker who shuts down the conversation with overspeak when Vevik is making sense. Cuban wouldn't let Vevik get to the point. I hope this conversation popped Vevik's view of Cuban. Humans might have a little to do with Climate change but probably to do with other things humans can't fix. The earth will correct itself. I hope mother nature does that without wiping everyone out before it's over. LOL
@@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Humans do have a little to do with climate change. What the government agencies do is then make it a bigger deal than it actually is. If it isn't a big deal, they will get less funding, and they may be out of a job.
Kamala Harris is more qualified than Trump, Trump is a trust fund baby with a shitty past and if he was black he wouldn't even be considered for President.
Vivek, my wife and I just watched this video, or at least as much as we could stand. You were a gentleman as usual. I used to have a little respect for Mr. Cuban, but no longer. He's bulldog who seems to like the sound of his own voice. What I got out of this was Mark saying my facts are bigger than your facts. I think it all boils down to him having hard feelings about a friend who had to go to court to win damages against Trump. This is a fact of life in big business, one that he's well acquainted with. Businesses get sued and sue in return. Listening to Cuban talk about stocks and trading, etc. it sounds like high level insider trading to me and THAT is unethical in my book. My message to Mr. Cuban, Vivek outclasses you in every area. Trump is the best candidate for president and I trust his judgement in foreign and domestic issues. Don't give up Vivek. We love you and love your common sense approach to business and politics. As for Mark, he will be the biggest voice in the room, no matter where he is. But that doesn't mean he's right on everything, or liked. Stay out of politics. No one likes a big, loud, barking dog. Stick to emails and don't use all caps, like you do in person.
Mark said he would vote for joe on his deathbed over trump???? Must be nice to be sooo rich he can afford a president on his deathbed....majority of america can NOT.....mark is a 100% scumbaggg...he wants his hate to be everyone elses hate. Period.
The DEI that mark describes is COMPLETELY different than the DEI actually practiced at most companies. The current insurance company that I work for that I'm thankfully leaving very soon shut down a bunch of their northern US offices and pushed all of us to WFH, our quality and productivity declined. Then they instead opened offices in low computer literacy communities in the south because they wanted more black people in the roster to hit their DEI targets. Our major core metrics are suffering and the quality that I observe in a wide range of activities especially entry level positions like customer service has taken a nosedive. First Call Resolution and satisfaction used to be their #1 priority and they were good at it, now it's "normal" for an account to have 4 interactions in a single week because the reps didn't handle the call properly. I observed one of the training classes and after 9 weeks training the reps still didn't know how to send out a replacement ID card which is the most basic and fundamental steps to allowing customers to access healthcare benefits.
So what are you saying? Blacks are incompetent? Maybe the training was bad. You yourself said they moved to WFH and quality and production declined. Sounds like the company made some cost cutting decisions that are ultimately the issue. Plus you’re right community literacy is a thing. I work in health care and sometimes it’s more about the communities you are hiring or providing services in. I can point out exact opposite situations where a company is diverse that is doing better than those that aren’t. So it’s 6 or one half dozen there. This idea that the reason for failure is because of DEI is overblown and simply unproven. Allowing people to ‘hire only the best’ is putting your head in the sand because they DONT and WONT always hire the best rather they will hire what they are comfortable with and aligns with their personal bias. Not to mention rampant nepotism. This is how you get nothing but straight white males at the top. Because it’s human nature to do what you feel comfortable with. Once this is in practice it trickles down. Ironically, there is always this focus on black people with DEI, when DEI isn’t just about black people. It’s about those that are handicapped, old, women, maimed, etc. For some reason when anything is wrong or failing it’s about the minorities in the country. As if the majority (whites) are infallible and just better citizens and workers.
They most likely moved to hiring in the south because labor is cheaper, as it's also cheaper to pay first year versus 5 year with experience. Cuban answers this well, he notes that they still have to compete and if they don't, they are let go. If you're company took the cheapest route to save money (shutting down expensive offices and higher cheaper labor), then continues to keep them, that's on them and their profit push. No company sabotages themselves to hire 'black people.' Anyone that believes this has never owned their own business.
@@temperugby7542 we had an older lady who had no idea how to use a Windows computer at all. When she would share her screen she would have so many edge browser windows open you had to scroll through her task bar to see them all and half of them were duplicates of the same page. Median call survey scores sat around the 90-92ish percent area for her training class, her scores were averaging 78%. The only reason they were that high is most people got so impatient waiting 45 minutes for her to figure out how to send out an EOC that they hung up so they didn't get a survey. She was at the company for 2 years and chose to retire. You're right, people who own their own business don't do this. But I don't work for a business owned by a person, I work for a business that's publicly traded by mutual funds, hedge funds, retirement funds etc. and the people who make these decisions aren't board members they're middle management workers with a personal agenda who use DEI to justify it to the executives.
Cuban’s idea of DEI is not at all what is occurring. Maybe in his companies, but in several companies I’ve worked in it is being used as a straight up racist policy. It is destructive and demoralizing.
@@SeetheWorldIn360degrees Boards and CEOs set the policies. But you cannot execute DEI without favoring. All the major tech companies translated the policies to quotas for female leadership etc. to meet government targets which is blatant discrimination. And rank and file employees who bust their butts everyday see people getting favors based on appearances instead of merit. It has become destructive. It's immoral and unethical at its core. It's like socialism - great theory but in practice destructive.
Cuban is pretty smart. But as the conversation goes, you start to see their mental capacity diverges. I honestly thought mark made compelling arguments but I just feel it kind of fall apart if we analyze it deeper. For example, DEI hires - he mentioned maybe there’s a woman from no name college that doesn’t test well but great at other things. But isn’t that just about finding the best people regardless of what they are? Why is DEI necessary then? Another thing I don’t understand is people such as Mark who likes to focus on discrimination acts as if Vivek or anyone who questions the potency of racism is saying “there’s no racism or discrimination”. Vivek literally said there’s discrimination in all directions and right after that Mark tries to claim Vivek said there’s no discrimination. WTF? Anyway, Vivek seems to out shines every one he speaks to.
Beautifully Said Han! Lol. I watched this w/ a lot of focus to Truly Learn about the derangement these ppl suffer from. Still clueless but I learned how awesome Vivek is at conversation! 👍❤️🙏
Agree. And as one of my favorite talk show hosts (Michael Savage) said, liberalism is a mental disorder. Mark is extremely smart, but Vivek is an INTELLECTUAL.
nah thats not true in that case - i like both men but vivek was faster in responding and framing the arguments then mark in this case. i would love to have a longer format in which both would have been allowed to finish their thoughts - but anyway i found vivek was a bit more interrupting then mark here
@@paulklopper5841if you actually watched the interview and not just the beginning you would see they actually ended up interrupting each other so much they went off topic randomly 😂😂😂😂
Vivek really could unite America and this conversation is proof. Pray he runs in 2028, he would win by a landslide by getting all sides together. Thank you to both these men!
This is sooooo good between them two. But so far Vivek is winning with his examples and policies. Mark just want to hear what his brain knows. It’s closed but 60-40. 60 to Vivek.
WOW... 10 minutes into the podcast I was hooked & loving it already.... jeez you gotta get Mark on for more conversations Vivek! Dont agree with Mark on the DE&I conversation though... it absolutely affects meritocracy
26:49 Mark says “Equity is putting people in the *position* to succeed”. The dude doesn’t even know the definitional difference between equity and equality, and he assumes they are the same. He quoted the definition of equality which is equal inputs and opportunity. Equity is defined as equal outcomes. This dude shouldn’t even be up here conversing or posting on Twitter if he doesn’t have his definitions down first.
He's totally disingenuous here. He lied by implying that climate change regulations don't cost his business money. They do. He lied when he claimed going out into underserved communities give him better candidates. Its a cop out. You cannot employ that consistently with expected gain. It will always be anecdotal circumstances that would propel a candidate like that. And he recommends that for EVERYONE? Totally disingenuous.
Vivek is always so fucking masterful at steering communication between people away from arguments and into productive conversations (even with the most hostile of people). Bless you Vivek. I really admire your conversation skills.
He's so totally indoctrinated like Cenk ....the mind control over these people is unreal. As a former Democrat I got out of the cult of hate. Getting rid of that hate, anger and fear is such a relief...The Great Awakening
Vikek, I think your biggest asset is your ability to have fluid and constructive debate. the fact that you dont antagonize your interlocutors help the audience to understand, at least, his thought.
The harder they make it for new business to get started (esp) the better it is for people that already are successful. When they make the cost to get started more expensive less people attempt to start.
13 mins in and I already love this conversation. Vivek always brings on guests that he disagrees with. There is more to learn from these kinds of conversations than just having some one likeminded.
Vivek and Cuban are two of the brightest people from each political spectrum. This conversation was important and I appreciate you guys for doing this.
It makes absolutely no sense for Mark to be a Democrat. It makes NO sense. They are running on socialism. Capitalists don't want freaking socialism. Mark has a PERSONAL vendetta against Trump. He has severe, severe TDS.
What’d you think of the deflection of the Trump Uni comment? Seemed kind of weak to call it a ‘personal attack’ when it clearly brings up the man’s ethics.
@@calvinmiguel4405 Vivek is wrong and Vivek knows he’s wrong but he has to concede in some points otherwise he will lose trumps favor because he knows the power of social media
Yep. Never thought about race a single time until all this DEI crap. Always have and always will deeply believe we are all equal in value because we are human/created by God.
Back in the 90's, people didn't care much about race. Why was that? There were still racial problems but not universally. Now, race is the dividing card to get politics done. Nothing more. DEI is an international effort of divide and conquer, not territory but minds. Same thing as the gender craziness. It's not to bring "ethics", it's to get people to sterilize themselves so they can't reproduce. Sounds rash but so was eugenics in the 1920s. That eugenics movement has never gone away, in fact it has metastasized and morphed into what we see now.
@@jackbrunk3907 agreed. Cuban is disconnected. For someone working at a company with a DEI goal, when a white person is passed over for a job for someone not white. Immediately the white person will blame the DEI goal. Which immediately creates racism issues. Stop focusing on it and let that narrative die.
this is the type of content i crave. i feel like i walked away a little smarter. i also realize how much i have left to learn. BRAVO, Vivek! We need you running this country STAT ❤
I love this podcast and especially this interaction between two different positions! This is what the world and America needs between all people. This is how the world grows and benefits
I love this chat and both perspectives. I love when 2 smart people with 2 completely different points of view debate because you learn so much and you can decide where you stand.
DEI and Affirmation Action has nothing to do with unqualified people whatsoever. You have been mislead. If a person is unqualified for a position, then they shouldn't have the job. But if they're qualified for the position, they should have a chance just like anybody else.
Well, this was an awesome interview and I am so glad two people were able to go back-and-forth respectfully and that it was not a one-sided conversation.
Topic aside, HIGHLY appreciate two people having a CIVIL DISCUSSION like this and not calling each other names.
We've just watched a master class in how to keep things civil while arguing your point.
Vivek is the smarter by 100 IQ pts.
This conversation was civil because of V's brilliant way he agrees with MC and makes him feel heard but yet, make him explain himself.
Love Viveks pure logic and intelligence
Agree. Most comments are one sided and the reality is, we need more discussion like this.
This is what we need more of. Educated people having conversations, regardless of whether or not they agree or not. Nowadays people are too scared to converse and feel disagreement is disrespect.
Cuban sounds like a typical lefty with TDS
This is so true.. they disagree but do so with respect. No name calling like little kids like our "leaders" at the top do.
Exactly. This is why we need liberal and conservative viewpoints. Dig into the topics and work together for the best solution.
@@klyles70partisanship is destroying our country.
@@ryanbauer8317 exactly. people dont understand that both points of view are important and need to be harmonized
Vevek, I'm more aligned with you politically but you and Mark have a great opportunity to REALLY solve many of the problems in our country.Please, more of these debates.
@@mikelanman8328 Mark Cuban. No!
Exactly. When people don't cancel everyone who doesn't agree with them all the time, different ideas can come together so that everyone wins. These two are a great model.
Mark and Vivek do not have the opportunity to solve these problems. Cuban truly believes that the best and smartest in the world, a group in which he believes he belongs, can lift up the rest of the poor, disadvantaged peasants. Trump and Cuban share this view, as do most of our elitist politicians. Vivek is different. He believes the individual, with God's help, must not be a victim waiting for someone else to offer welfare and must work for it. Given freedom, one can succeed.
MC has a very low attention span and didn't even bother to fully listen to what Vivek has to say before butting in the convo everytime.
Vivek, please do a segment like this with Pete Buttiguieg. You are each on the opposite sides of the poles and can both respectfully debate on all things politics. Set it up where each ‘round’ of 20 minutes or so deals with a specific issue: economy, foreign policy, education, etc… that would be extremely beneficial for our country. Thanks!!
@@SonTimba Yes, I’d like to see that but if you think Cuban schooled Vivek, Buttegieg would skewer Vivek.
Pete will dog walk vivek
@@YesIndeed4787Pete has been missing since his maternity leave in 2022.
Ask Pete about ohio
@@alancheah1195absolutely
Wow. One of the best conversations i've listened to in awhile. Almost ZERO agreement, yet ZERO disrespect, negativity, or slander.
If you walked away from this video with negative feelings, YOU are part of the problem.
@@mknop3 When was he "un-civil"? I found the banter extremely friendly and jestful, honestly
@@mknop3he was civil
Mark talked over Vyvek alot. Ugh
@@ilovethewiggle-crypto8033 Fair enough, but Vivek is a big boy and has no prob handling bad faith conversations. I honestly just felt Mark was really excited to have a conversation longer than a couple hundred characters, I don't think he was doing it to be rude or disrespectful. Maybe Vivek got that vibe too, they seem pretty friendly to one another.
@@jayprimo Any time Mark disagreed he didn't wait for Vivek to finish his thought. He just interrupted him. That's not civil.
This is the kind of debates we need in this country! So much I've learned here. Thanks
These open discussions are an absolute treat, Vivek. I love listening to them. You are truly a resounding voice for this country and I see a lot of potential in you.
Me too I love listening to him because he is so intelligent, Vivek has a beautiful deposition, Danny Beharie, South Africa.
vivek is so respectful, hes someone who genuinely cares, has clarity of thought, extremely articulate, is humble, his leadership needs to shine in bringing efficiency in government. i hope he gets picked for a key role in the new govt
Vivek, you are the most patient articulate man I’ve ever witnessed. Thank you for sticking with people even though they can be very abrasive and overbearing. Appreciate the work you’re doing!
Vivek said he really likes and respects Mark Cuban. HAHAHAHAHA what a clown Vivek is.
Did you people miss the debates he was in??!! Ramasawmy is waaay too emontional! He's ill-tempered, he belittles people, i.e. name calling, etc. That is why he got the lowest score of all the candiates in the debate. Wake up!
@@kathimonter6855 You LIAR. Vivek is a clown because he treats the demons too kindly. You have to be FIRM with evil, barking at the beast to BACK OFF!! Weakness is open season for Satan.
@@kathimonter6855, no! He was calling out the shady ones like Nikki and Chris Christie!
AGREED!
hey vivek, massive respect man. you held your ground and you did it with grace and confidence. the way you handle disagreements truly brings more and more people together. most humans have so much in common but the media inflates the things we don’t agree about to make the situation worse. “a house divided cannot stand” however you bring unity to opposition in a way i haven’t witnessed in my lifetime as a young man. Truly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you sir.
AMEN
I completely agreed. I've learned to rethink through my words a bit more in life per Vivek's example.
Agreed….
Under Obama nobody knows anyone who got deported.. he simply turned em’ around at the border and called it a deportation after briefly letting them in.
Trump did similar but tried to secure illegal crossing & “close” the border..
Not really, he talked over Mark Cuban over and over again, cutting him off several times to make his point while Mark was beautifully explaining his
We need more discussions like this with two people who disagree and still respect each other. It healthy and responsible.
Both Vivek and Cuban failed to accurately convey the history and actual application of AA, EEO, EEO-1 reporting and EEO-4 reporting; plus (as non-disabled individuals) they completely ignored the impact of ADA on AA/EEO. Vivek and Cuban entirely missed the point of the Johnny-come-lately skewed and failed application of DEI. I'm a subject matter expert in AA/EEO/ADA/DEI and it's particularly annoying to listen to two "elite," politically powerful and affluent men, one man of color and one White man, talk about a subject for which they hold absolutely no expertise.
This discussion happed to be civil due to Mark only, Vivek disturbed, jumped from a subject to subject as usual…
I don't think I've ever had a political disagreement that wasn't respectful, because I've always genuinely respect the person I was talking to, and I think most people feel the same. I think most of the time when you get some on the Left freaking out over someone defending Trump's actions or praising him, or someone on the Right freaking out over someone calling Trump out for lying or underperforming in office, most of that happens in the Media, because it gets views. Most people on the ground do respect each other, and the spazzy people are the outliers.
@@adamjohnson9285 Really? It was clearly demonstrated on the Jan 6th…
Did anyone do an interruption count?
Not sure how respectful that is
More open discussions like this needs to happen. Sticking with “the home team” and not having an open mind for civil discussion is the worst thing that can happen.
The more I watch this, the more I enjoy the freely given back and forth without malice.
I enjoyed it, too. But every time Vivek saw he was losing the argument/debate, he tried to change the subject. Lol
Its not back and forth Mark keeps talking over him
@@StankHunt42 No he didn't. Vivek wouldn't let him finish when he was making solid arguments
@tsemlesentimental6051 exactly. Mark was more than gracious to let Vivek finish his points. Every time Vivek saw that he was getting his ass handed to him, he interrupted or changed the subject. That dude better watch the podcast again. This must be his version of the woman who caught her husband in bed with another woman and asked her, who you are going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?" 😆😆 😂 🤣
Wanted to comment something similar. This is a great conversation that EVERYBODY CAN LEARN FROM. I lean left, for sure, but gained a ton of respect for Ramaswamy because he enabled an open-minded converversation. The right needs less Trump and more Ramaswamey to ever get my vote.
Vivek continues to impress me as Mark Cuban always had. Two great minds having healthy debate about solid issues. Vivek has proven to be not only super intelligent but authentic and a master at articulating his views impactfully, without offending opposing views. I hope he continues to be a prominent figure in the political arena for years to come.
He's an idiot, defending disgusting actions by Tman.
What a great opening by Vivek, "I always learn something from Mark....except his politics". Great interview to get a better perspective of Cuban.
"How many people are going to die to due to lack of energy access in the meantime"
Mark won that debate
"I always learn something from Mark....except his politics" highlights that Vivek isn't interested in an open and honest discussion, because he could learn something from Cuban, he just refuses too. The fact that you think it's a "great opening" confirms that that you are the same as Vivek, you're not interested in discussion, you simply want people to agree with your politics.
Mark mopped the floor w Vivek
@@Sk8buzzbro actually believes that 💀💀💀
Vivek is so intelligent, confident and fun to listen to. He'd make a great president.
@@MegRian754 He’s an intelligent confident shill. He should use his superpowers for good not gain.
hmmm naa
😅🤣
Oh so we should make u president
Let me guess, that’s why you want Donald back in the White House
Contrary to most of these comments, I think this was a great conversation. I definitely agree with Vivek, but Cuban was definitely not disrespectful like everyone is claiming. Honestly this is what confident, healthy disagreement looks like. Sure there were passionate outbursts, but they treated each other with respect and expressed disagreements without character attacks, straw manning the other position, or pretentious smugness. I’ll take this over 99% of the “debates” that are aired today. Thanks Mark Cuban for taking the time to have a discussion with Americas future president! Vivek 2028 🇺🇸
That's my POTUS 2028
Mark has a God complex I did find him a little condescending and somewhat disrespectful. He interrupted, and he is dismissive.
Lol, you're right. Didn't interrupt vivek a single time. Didn't raise his voice a single time. Definitely clearly answered half the questions Vivek asked, right? The only reason this debate was 'respectful' was 110% because Vivek is classy af. Mark is a POS.
@@DillonPicchiettioh stop with your fake account. This was a very good and respectful conversation.
I couldn't agree with you more. Did people even watch it?? The comments out here show exactly what's wrong with this country and shows why we're so divided. People are so negative.
Open minded critical thinkers would absolutely love this. Great ideas shared with respect. We need more of this please.
Regardless of my personal political opinions, I love the fact that these two people were able to discuss charged issues for over an hour. This is what we need more of.
Social and mainstream media skew the news so much that everything is extremely divisive. It’s refreshing to see two people have a discussion where they can explore common ground and differing viewpoints openly. This is how neighbors should break bread, even if they watch different news channels.
Vivek, we need a part 2, please. If not, no biggie. Y'all are busy.
I sincerely appreciate the both of you. I believe discussions like these, for everyone to see, inherently keeps us on track to Make America Greater Than It Has Ever Been.
Many thanks for all that you do!
I can't understand how some people believe a candidate's character plays no part in their voting decision.If a person shows again and again he's not trustworthy,why would you support him and not someone else?
Exactly. Could never vote for trump
It's literally cultist behavior. It's the same reason that tons of people throughout history have pledged their allegiance & lives to people like Manson, Jones, Koresh, etc. even when they've seen them lie & commit atrocities with their own eyes. It's far more easier for someone to make justifications for horrible behavior, than it is for them to ever admit they were conned.
Ya, I've been saying this since 2016. It's always a bad idea to assign leadership to an extreme narcissist. That's just asking for trouble. We have decades worth of examples that show us the man can't be trusted, cares about nothing except his own interests, is a pathological liar, with no sense of morality. Aside from the practical problems that arise from this, I think one of the jobs of a President is to unite and inspire. I think it's important to have someone in that office that our children can look up to and aspire to be like. If I had younger children, I wouldn't even want them watching most of Trump's speeches!
I think many people like me recognize that and don't love him but know that the alternative is far far more dangerous
Exactly! Harris is a good example! She has continued to lie about the border. She is completely complicit in defrauding the American people over Biden, then did not go through any process to steal Biden’s candidacy. She is not someone I can trust. I’m not happy with Trump but he is head and shoulders over Harris.
Every time i hear vivek speak i am throughly impressed with his ability to articulate a conversation, hes so well spoken for a guy at his age , its mind boggling to me, his ability to discuss topics with such clear and concise meaning, i mean throw esg out the window , the true problem with america is the fact that it is run by the industrial complex and the military and there whole montra of dumbing down the american public by backing leaders like kamala harris, who is about as smart as an eggplant versus a guy like vivek who could teach people so much, and lead the country down the correct path without the worry of corruption. corruption is the root problem, vivek could fix it i know that. great interview max respect.
It's very refreshing to watch/listen to a conversation between two highly successful individuals with different political opinions. We need more of this!
Kudos to Vivek and Mark Cuban both. We need more civic dialogue like this. Thank you for modeling that we can talk about things we have differing opinions on and gain perspective from each other and better understand and appreciate each other. If we could learn to have more dialogue in this manner (seeking to understand with respect) we would find there is more that unites us than divide us.
Kudos to Mark
Far more interesting than the mindless rambling I heard in Trump Musk talk.
This is how it used to be. Then came loud mouth Trump.
This is an incredible discussion. Have you EVER heard a discussion between two incredibly successful and intelligent people who were willing to have an honest, deep, philosophical and economics-based discussion on government diversity programs etc? No name-calling, straw-mans or bumper sticker slogans??? WE NEED MORE OF THIS!!! and THANK YOU Vivek for making this happen!
Agreed. Mark Cuban was a great choice.
Agree 100% this is how adults share ideas points of view.
Except Mark is not particularly intelligent
@@rickross4241look in the mirror you clown
A person that supports & will vote for a Marxist is also one & doesn't love his country or it's people. He really knows the true side of Trump but refuses to admit it & basically he's jealous of the fact DT became president & he didn't. When he announced to also run for the presidency he didn't have the backup that Trumphad. He even said he would be a better president than Trump. He's a back stabber because he used to be his friend. I have no respect for him, again he betrays anyone if there is a financial benefit for himself & his bull dog ego. A big mouth rich guy with no ethics. He only loves himself & thinks he knows it all. Good for Vivek who kept his cool & behaved intelligent & on control with all the bull dog interruptions. Vivek will make a good president 2028.
That was GREAT. I wanna see A LOT more of that. Work it out, guys. We need the country to come back under people who know what they're doing.
I enjoyed hearing these two talk back and forth a lot more than I thought I would. Civil, friendly, disagreeing, both intelligent, both really good points. Wow, this is what I feel like a presidential debate SHOULD be like.
Love Vivek!!!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Vivek is awesome! I wish he were going to be president
I want to see him Sec. of State.
it's simple, let him run 2028 and maga will back him
It's amazing a man like him even wants to be president and the citizens of our country are not smart enough to take him up on it.... yet.
Only the bate and switch thing got him rich.
Unfortunately some of the big talking heads on the right won't even give him a chance in your party solely because of his race.. Ann Coulter.. I belive alot of folks feel just like her sadly
Great debate between two smart men who have very different world views and yet they both sparred with respect and a smile on their faces. More of this please!
Vivek cut Mark off when Mark exposed Trump's deceitful behavior and Vivek denies and ignores REALITY. That's what's wrong with MAGA.
This was probably one of the best comments I’ve seen after reading a lot of these other comments gives me hope. People we could have disagreements and still respect each other just because we don’t agree with your opinions or you don’t agree with our opinions doesn’t make us wrong and it doesn’t make you wrong.
Well, this type of conversation doesn’t fit too well in MAGA world.
@@jamesbrown9607 Vivek didn't let Mark finish what he was saying. Mark was ripping into Trump and Vivek just cut him off, and simply wouldn't agree that Trump is a corrupt immoral person that should not be President again.
People should read three books by David Cay Johnston that cover Trump, his policies in the first year in office and how he was committing a self serving behavior to enrich himself and family. Check them out.
@@redfisher5378lol it’ll be an echo chamber of MAGA agenda and no accountability. Not saying that all of MAGA is bad, but people that associate with MAGA often like to act like some of these issues don’t exist.
Probably the best 1 on 1 I’ve seen. Two smart and well mannered men going at it with actual points and showing passion.
This is what UA-cam should promote more: respectful disagreements reasoned out between intelligent minds.
Have met the internet? That is never gonna happen 😂
😂😂 @@johntheherbalistg8756
I only saw one intelligent mind. The other is a typical evil Democrat.
@@johntheherbalistg8756 Seen my share - but this video is a good example (that's already happened).
I think people learn more when both sides are argued well, like in this EXCELLENT debate on DEI. Well done, Vivek and Mark! We need more multipolar discussions to get people out of their comfy echo chambers.
Mark's DEI definition is not what is put forth as DEI in general. I think if this was how DEI was put into action there would be very little push back. I think Mr. Cuban is an exception rather than the rule.
This conversation is EXACTLY what this country needs...honest debate where folks can disagree without demonizing each other
I know he is just describing normal hiring practices 😂😂 he is gaslighting tho DEI is Kamala Harris
Agreed. Mark Cuban's definition implied that there is all this talent amongst minorities that is actively being ignored by companies (at the cost of their profits!?), and DEI is companies attempts to open their eyes to this talent. This implies that either a) minorities have 0 ability to promote themselves to businesses, or b) that businesses actively discriminate against minorities in their hiring practices. I don't think either is happening. Which one is it Mark.
That being said, I did love this interview and wish Vivek let Mark complete his thoughts more often. I think Mark is correct in his criticism of Trump on the ethical basis, although Kamala isn't any better.
Most respectfully, Vivek and Mark, with regard to AA/EEO/DEI your mutual comments reek of an overt lack of subject matter expertise. FACT: The socioeconomic status for the overwhelming majority of Black people NEVER improved as a result of AA/EEO/DEI. There are more "token" Negroes, primarily being "showcased" in sports and entertainment, while the wage and income gap between White and Blacks has perpetually increased; segregation has increased; minority home ownership has decreased; the traditional Black family and marriages is essentially non-existent; etc. Even worse, as researched by Derenoncourt, Chi Hyun Kim, Kuhn, and Schularick in their March 8, 2021 report, “The Racial Wealth Gap, 1860 - 2020,” the wealth gap between Blacks and Whites has never been abated, has only increased significantly, and most importantly, if present trends in the data continue, the racial wealth gap is headed to a steady state with average White wealth at least five times greater than average Black wealth - even through 2260! Please, instead of being "armchair quarterbacks," learn more about the "reality of AA/EEO/DEI" by reading this: tripoetry.com/Letters/reynoldsrap-blackpeople5.htm or watch this: ua-cam.com/video/M_yx9LE6qd0/v-deo.html
@@thomasaquinas399 You're right. You don't think.
How do you know what you are saying is true? People place their own meaning on things. The truth is that DEI effects white people too. I went to an HBCU where white students received minority scholarships. I think that's fair.
Vivek always looks so clean.
He’s wearing makeup.
We are all better humans after listening to viveks truth podcasts. 🙏❤️🇺🇸💯
Mark, the question to ask is can you have a conversation like this with Kamala?
LOL, good one.
Kamala won't even engage anyone who will ask her tough questions.
HAHAHA!! She drank the Wine!!
The only thing that worries me if they talk is if they start talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time
@@hugool3222 HAHAHA
Vivek is the most successful communicator of Libertarian principles & values since Ron Paul.
Duuuuude I been saying this as well. That’s why I was so fuckin bummed Trump didn’t chose him as VP. It seriously turned me off.
He is much more articulate than Ron Paul. As much as I love and respect Dr Paul, I sometimes wished he could have articulated this thoughts better and being punchy and straight to the point. Vivek is flawless. Try and see if he ever uses a filler word.
Appreciate the open discussion and not ever being afraid to talk with opposing viewpoints. Hope the intention is to keep this up for not just the rest of this election cycle but moving forward. The country needs this now more than ever.
Vivek thank you for sharing this discussion with Mark Cuban. I believe finding common ground and giving credit where it’s due is important to having civil discussions with people who you fundamentally disagree with. No minds were changed in a 1 hour discussion but you both ended your discussion professionally and respectfully.
You had my support in 2024 and have it in the future. I hope to see you as president in 2028.
Kudos to these two gentlemen for having a DISCUSSION vs a DEBATE. The world needs more of this! 🍻
yeah except Vivek was waiting to respond instead of listening with an open mind😂🤦🏻♂
@tabor503 baby steps! Lol. Both men had their options for sure and it's hard when you're up against a clock. Would've been great if they had a few hours to get all their options out. I agree with you but I'll still take this type of condo over the debate style of gotcha rhetorical back and forth. Or worse, yelling over each other. It was far from perfect but perfectly ok imo.
Vivek is on another level!
indeedy.
Really appreciate the conversation. For one who really wants to listen, and get perspective from folks who are intelligent and aren’t in agreement on many of these issues.
I truly believe Vivek would be such an amazing president. He can talk really well with people with opposing views
I wish this interview went longer. Love hearing 2 opposing ideas challenge each other in a cordial manner
I'm absolutely blown away by the vigor and intellect in this debate.
These two need a weekly segment until Mark runs out things to say. Such respect and admiration for both of these men AND their service to their ideas.
He’s already out of ideas
What a great discussion - Vivek and Mark is what the nation want. Great topics, agreements, disagreements - run it back soon
I don’t agree with many of Mark’s views on these topics, but it gives me hope when 2 people with different believes can sit down and have a civilized conversation, kudos to both.
It was only civil because Vivek was tolerant of Cuban’s waterfall talking over him on every important point over which there was disagreement. That’s what bullies do. That’s what people with weak cases to plead, do.
@@CharlesFosterMalloyand yet it was Vivek interrupting Cuban constantly. The man wouldn't let him finish any points.
@@CharlesFosterMalloy lol vivek is proven wrong. thats all there is. cry more.
@@CharlesFosterMalloy,
It's been proven that Vivek will lay down and roll over for a billionaire.
Mark is just a veteran Billionaire.
Vivek is humble bragging always.
I don't think MC would have shark tank'd VS's drug.
Both Vivek and Cuban failed to accurately convey the history and actual application of AA, EEO, EEO-1 reporting and EEO-4 reporting; plus (as non-disabled individuals) they completely ignored the impact of ADA on AA/EEO. Vivek and Cuban entirely missed the point of the Johnny-come-lately skewed and failed application of DEI. I'm a subject matter expert in AA/EEO/ADA/DEI and it's particularly annoying to listen to two "elite," politically powerful and affluent men, one man of color and one White man, talk about a subject for which they hold absolutely no expertise.
Respect to Vivek for having a respectful conversation with the other side
Mark Cuban won
The other side?
Vivek is an ass kisser dude !!
The guy has no self respect
“The other side” that thinking is part of the problem.
Vivek is 100% right about getting rid of the the discriminatory government meddling. At this point it IS causing more division.
MEDDLING ONLY always happens when corporations, schools, etc. are not competitive and GET HELP FROM GOVERNMENTS (OUR TAX MONEY.)
How? The problem with some people they think the job was theirs. But it wasn’t
Affirmative Action lasted less than slavery, Jim Crow and Seperate but Equal. I hear you making excuses.
PROTECT - You only think that way because you were told so! 💯
@@igo_dood Does that include government meddling in banning books, reproductive rights, bailing out banks which created the financial crisis?
Vivek… you may never see this but you are so great. I am saddened that you were not chosen at Presidential candidate this time… but please continue to do what you do.
You are exactly what America needs.
You’re insane
@@DeeYoooHow’s he insane?
@@gamertag5030 as JD stated, we don’t want the White House smelling like curry
Vivek has his own path, can't blame him for rejecting a position he is over-qualified for. We will all see where Vivek leads the world. God bless him!
100 percent agreed, that's my POTUS 2028
Curious to know what position he declined
@@thatWanderingSoul I'm assuming he means VP, but I haven't seen/heard any evidence Vivek was offered the position and declined.
No he went never offered lmao
@@thatWanderingSoul Oh sorry I don't know actually I was just assuming. There was so much praise and expectations, you'd think they must have discussed about it. I just think Vivek is too smart to be a side job.
These 2 men have the best chance of solving social issues in our country. I listened and didn't feel as though anyone was trying to deceive me in thinking a certain way. Great Debate!
Vivek im an Ohio guy born & raised much respect for your intelligence and the info you give us & always having class with dealing with ppl so much better than watching mainstream short interviews where they talk over ppl & just wanna trash each other
He’s not just a random young guy from Ohio. He’s the son of Indian parents who worked for GE Aviation whose HQ is in OH and why did his parents from India get a Job at GE? That other thing you Trump supporters hate: Globalization. Funny when it works and Vivek is a shining example of DEI / Globalization his parents benefited from. Wow only takes one generation to forget.
@@KC53557 Funny how think Globalisation is same as DEI.
Also how in the hell is Vivek an example of DEI? He earned everything without asking for reverse discrimination.
@@arun31000 via his parents, they didn’t get their jobs because of merit only, they got them because John Rice decided it was a good idea to open up huge operations in India and China to find ways for GE to make stuff cheaper thereby opening operations in those countries. GE like many other companies discovered there were brilliant hard working folks in India and opened up the path for them to emigrate to the US. Without him you would know Vivek.
I loved this discussion! Two adults, with different opinions, without being nasty and disrespectful. Bravo, gents.
Mark, you gotta let him talk man
It’s a tell sign! He knows he’s not in the right!
Typical left
It really is exhausting and so rude to watch and listen to this conversation. You have one guy trying to make a cogent argument and the other guy constantly emotionally interrupting and for what? He rarely has any intelligence in his argument. It sounds virtually entirely emotional and lacking in logic and common sense
@@travisjazzbo3490 Mark is operating at an emotional level and has a fundamental belief that more government involvement in our lives can make things "better".
so Vivek is talking all the time and Cuban cannot get a word in, right? On Vivek’s show should he not be letting Cuban talk?
I’m sure he did not employ DEI when drafting for the Mavericks
Not much DEI in the nba😂
Blacks r less than 20% but are everywhere u look. Count commercials on tv without a black person. You’ll be amazed
BOOM.
@@davidwebster6005 typical, sum old woke white guy preaching why DEI is important to a minority. 😂
@@DoublewhiteshoesVivek is a failed politician
I love Vivek.
Mark would happily live in a tyranny so long as he was one of the survivors and lived in comfort.
Survival of the fittest.
Meanwhile the rest of us have been sacrificed to the climate overlords.in the depopulation plan.
This is why Vivek should be in politics because he has genuine compassion for humanity.
Mark has compassion also he just dosnt understand the full effects of some of his ideas.
Amazingly well said friend.
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Disclaimer: I don't know Mark's life story of success from it's inception. Meaning, I don't know whether he came from nothing or if he had a helping hand.
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The above being said - even if he did come from humble beginnings, he's been so very far from that life for so very long that he can't possibly have the perspective of the common working man.
I don't think he's a bad dude. And I do think he's brilliant in many ways. But he's so what out of touch. Then again - anyone at his level for that long is likely to be far more woke and unreasonable. Mark still seems to have boundaries. For example - I find it hard to believe that he'd be cool with supporting dudes in women's sports.
Yep
You touched a point. The climate change watchers interest is to make more money with more funds allocated for this cause. More tax collectors.
We learn so much more from these discussions than from all the mainstream news put together. Thank you both.15:42
Great job, Vivek!! This is quality experience for presidential debates in the future when people won't let you speak without interruptions
This reminds me that all this “political opponents” are friends and they have adult conversations among themselves. I like how they disagree like normal adults and both of them get to share their point of views. We need more of this!
"Never do a wrong thing to make a friend or to keep one."
-- General Robert E. Lee
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This could be the voice of experience talking, here.
U mean you like the Republic but hate extremism. Problem solved lol.
Was that before or after he beat his slave? 🧐
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Vivek and Mark, you guys are 2 of my favorite personalities in the US. This conversation beat the hell out of the Elon / Trump conversation. It's an incredibly revealing and informative conversation. A bit uncomfortable at points, but that's what makes it so good. Please keep this going and dig deeper into those issues that you guys covered in the last 15 minutes that got cut short. Great stuff!
I wish we saw more of this type of class in politics. Vivek and Cuban were great examples of smart people disagreeing respectfully
This was a great discussion. I felt that both of them are genuinely arguing for what they think is best for the future and even though they disagreed on a lot, they did it very respectfully and it never got personal. How refreshing. I hope there is a part 2.
Agree good points on both sides I would like to see them do a part two with a discussion on joint solutions that satisfy both ideologies.
Vivek is so smart.
It's refreshing to see a Democrat and Republican engaging in a respectful conversation, valuing each other's perspectives without resorting to insults.
Cuban is not a democrat.
Love a civil conversation with two people that disagree on certain issues…salute
Vivek got everything nailed about DEI.
Business owners and leaders can't let DEI on top of qualifications when looking for talents to accomplish missions.
Vivek's DEI definition: Determination. Excellence. Integrity
Mark's DEI definition: Didn't Earn It
I think you have these mixed up
This guy doesn’t understand the discriminatory practices in hiring.
It's always funny when the .1% attempt to appease the mob with this DEI nonsense, in order to avoid the mob coming for them.....These people never learn, it's only a matter of time til the mob does come.....Eat the rich isn't just a saying, it's their philosophy, they will use the rich to advance their cause but that usefulness will come to an end at some point.
DEI= DESTROYING EVERYTHING INSIGHT
let me guess, your white, haha tell me your racist without telling me your racist. The whole point of DEI is because of the long history of discrimination in hiring against minorities.
Vivek is sooo patient with Cuban. Respect to him
I love Mark and I love Vivek. My ideal politicians are people like these, where policies and actions to be taken are debated. Hopefully, we'll be able to see a world of more politiciwithcthese traits
I love how Cuban redefines "DEI" his way to cover up the true nature of it. It has nothing to do with the real world. Picking a a black woman in the name of DEI and not because she's sharp and knows what she's doing is a insult to her and her family. Picking the right person for the job is a honest business decision. Business isn't a social service, it's about making money. Who cares about the color of the skin. He can lie to himself all he wants.
He is simply saying let the companies who support DEI fail to prove the point that DEI is bad. While in the same breath, he says even if there is 1% evidence that climate change is real, we have to be prepared for it. Why don't he use the same logic for DEI? Even if there is 1% evidence that DEI can cause life and death situations in many jobs, why should we even try DEI?
Mark is saying let the companies who support DEI fail to prove the point that DEI is bad. While in the same breath, he says even if there is 1% evidence that climate change is real, we have to be prepared for it. Why don't he use the same logic for DEI? Even if there is 1% evidence that DEI can cause life and death situations in many jobs, why should we even try DEI?
@@WhoWhatWhy_123 Yeah. Cuban is shrewd, probably in a bad way. Is he trying to encourage companies to fail to lessen the competition? He reminds me of a far leftest coworker who shuts down the conversation with overspeak when Vevik is making sense. Cuban wouldn't let Vevik get to the point. I hope this conversation popped Vevik's view of Cuban. Humans might have a little to do with Climate change but probably to do with other things humans can't fix. The earth will correct itself. I hope mother nature does that without wiping everyone out before it's over. LOL
@@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Humans do have a little to do with climate change. What the government agencies do is then make it a bigger deal than it actually is. If it isn't a big deal, they will get less funding, and they may be out of a job.
Kamala Harris is more qualified than Trump, Trump is a trust fund baby with a shitty past and if he was black he wouldn't even be considered for President.
Vivek, my wife and I just watched this video, or at least as much as we could stand. You were a gentleman as usual. I used to have a little respect for Mr. Cuban, but no longer. He's bulldog who seems to like the sound of his own voice. What I got out of this was Mark saying my facts are bigger than your facts. I think it all boils down to him having hard feelings about a friend who had to go to court to win damages against Trump. This is a fact of life in big business, one that he's well acquainted with. Businesses get sued and sue in return. Listening to Cuban talk about stocks and trading, etc. it sounds like high level insider trading to me and THAT is unethical in my book. My message to Mr. Cuban, Vivek outclasses you in every area. Trump is the best candidate for president and I trust his judgement in foreign and domestic issues. Don't give up Vivek. We love you and love your common sense approach to business and politics. As for Mark, he will be the biggest voice in the room, no matter where he is. But that doesn't mean he's right on everything, or liked. Stay out of politics. No one likes a big, loud, barking dog. Stick to emails and don't use all caps, like you do in person.
You expressed exactly what I was thinking!!!
Thank you for saying what I was thinking. There is something about Cuban that rubs me the wrong way.
It was a great conversation. What the hell are you talking about?
I couldn't have said it any better! Cheers!
Mark said he would vote for joe on his deathbed over trump???? Must be nice to be sooo rich he can afford a president on his deathbed....majority of america can NOT.....mark is a 100% scumbaggg...he wants his hate to be everyone elses hate. Period.
The DEI that mark describes is COMPLETELY different than the DEI actually practiced at most companies.
The current insurance company that I work for that I'm thankfully leaving very soon shut down a bunch of their northern US offices and pushed all of us to WFH, our quality and productivity declined. Then they instead opened offices in low computer literacy communities in the south because they wanted more black people in the roster to hit their DEI targets. Our major core metrics are suffering and the quality that I observe in a wide range of activities especially entry level positions like customer service has taken a nosedive. First Call Resolution and satisfaction used to be their #1 priority and they were good at it, now it's "normal" for an account to have 4 interactions in a single week because the reps didn't handle the call properly. I observed one of the training classes and after 9 weeks training the reps still didn't know how to send out a replacement ID card which is the most basic and fundamental steps to allowing customers to access healthcare benefits.
So what are you saying? Blacks are incompetent? Maybe the training was bad. You yourself said they moved to WFH and quality and production declined. Sounds like the company made some cost cutting decisions that are ultimately the issue. Plus you’re right community literacy is a thing. I work in health care and sometimes it’s more about the communities you are hiring or providing services in. I can point out exact opposite situations where a company is diverse that is doing better than those that aren’t. So it’s 6 or one half dozen there.
This idea that the reason for failure is because of DEI is overblown and simply unproven. Allowing people to ‘hire only the best’ is putting your head in the sand because they DONT and WONT always hire the best rather they will hire what they are comfortable with and aligns with their personal bias. Not to mention rampant nepotism. This is how you get nothing but straight white males at the top. Because it’s human nature to do what you feel comfortable with. Once this is in practice it trickles down. Ironically, there is always this focus on black people with DEI, when DEI isn’t just about black people. It’s about those that are handicapped, old, women, maimed, etc. For some reason when anything is wrong or failing it’s about the minorities in the country. As if the majority (whites) are infallible and just better citizens and workers.
How do you know factually what's practiced at most other companies?
You're only speaking from your solo experience.
They most likely moved to hiring in the south because labor is cheaper, as it's also cheaper to pay first year versus 5 year with experience. Cuban answers this well, he notes that they still have to compete and if they don't, they are let go. If you're company took the cheapest route to save money (shutting down expensive offices and higher cheaper labor), then continues to keep them, that's on them and their profit push. No company sabotages themselves to hire 'black people.' Anyone that believes this has never owned their own business.
@@temperugby7542 we had an older lady who had no idea how to use a Windows computer at all. When she would share her screen she would have so many edge browser windows open you had to scroll through her task bar to see them all and half of them were duplicates of the same page. Median call survey scores sat around the 90-92ish percent area for her training class, her scores were averaging 78%. The only reason they were that high is most people got so impatient waiting 45 minutes for her to figure out how to send out an EOC that they hung up so they didn't get a survey. She was at the company for 2 years and chose to retire.
You're right, people who own their own business don't do this. But I don't work for a business owned by a person, I work for a business that's publicly traded by mutual funds, hedge funds, retirement funds etc. and the people who make these decisions aren't board members they're middle management workers with a personal agenda who use DEI to justify it to the executives.
@@prettyflower01 networking
So refreshing to see a debate where both sides are allowed to voice their opinions and bring up valid points.
Cuban’s idea of DEI is not at all what is occurring. Maybe in his companies, but in several companies I’ve worked in it is being used as a straight up racist policy. It is destructive and demoralizing.
Agree. And it’s equity not opportunity like supporters of DEI keep defining when they discuss the big E.
Cuban sees DEI from the boardroom. That's not our view.
Exactly. Violations of the civil rights act masked as DEI. The current corporate and political leadership have no morals.
Cuban has too many people to please
@@SeetheWorldIn360degrees Boards and CEOs set the policies. But you cannot execute DEI without favoring. All the major tech companies translated the policies to quotas for female leadership etc. to meet government targets which is blatant discrimination. And rank and file employees who bust their butts everyday see people getting favors based on appearances instead of merit. It has become destructive. It's immoral and unethical at its core. It's like socialism - great theory but in practice destructive.
Cuban is pretty smart. But as the conversation goes, you start to see their mental capacity diverges. I honestly thought mark made compelling arguments but I just feel it kind of fall apart if we analyze it deeper. For example, DEI hires - he mentioned maybe there’s a woman from no name college that doesn’t test well but great at other things. But isn’t that just about finding the best people regardless of what they are? Why is DEI necessary then? Another thing I don’t understand is people such as Mark who likes to focus on discrimination acts as if Vivek or anyone who questions the potency of racism is saying “there’s no racism or discrimination”. Vivek literally said there’s discrimination in all directions and right after that Mark tries to claim Vivek said there’s no discrimination. WTF? Anyway, Vivek seems to out shines every one he speaks to.
Cubans only strengths are money and business
Well said and totally agree!
Beautifully Said Han! Lol. I watched this w/ a lot of focus to Truly Learn about the derangement these ppl suffer from. Still clueless but I learned how awesome Vivek is at conversation! 👍❤️🙏
Agree. And as one of my favorite talk show hosts (Michael Savage) said, liberalism is a mental disorder. Mark is extremely smart, but Vivek is an INTELLECTUAL.
Vivek has the truth on his side. Mark is disingenuous and when you don’t really believe in what you arguing it’s gotta be tough
Mark is hilarious "LET ME FINISH _ LET ME FINISH _ LET ME FINISH" while he interrupts Viveks train of thought and communication CONSTANTLY
nah thats not true in that case - i like both men but vivek was faster in responding and framing the arguments then mark in this case. i would love to have a longer format in which both would have been allowed to finish their thoughts - but anyway i found vivek was a bit more interrupting then mark here
@@paulklopper5841if you actually watched the interview and not just the beginning you would see they actually ended up interrupting each other so much they went off topic randomly 😂😂😂😂
We need Patrick Bet-David to debate Mark on DEI and ESG topic. #PatrickBetDavid
@@paulklopper5841 Go back and count.
Mark is a veteran. He schooled Vivek in this interview.
Vivek really could unite America and this conversation is proof. Pray he runs in 2028, he would win by a landslide by getting all sides together. Thank you to both these men!
This is sooooo good between them two. But so far Vivek is winning with his examples and policies. Mark just want to hear what his brain knows. It’s closed but 60-40. 60 to Vivek.
WOW... 10 minutes into the podcast I was hooked & loving it already.... jeez you gotta get Mark on for more conversations Vivek!
Dont agree with Mark on the DE&I conversation though... it absolutely affects meritocracy
26:49 Mark says “Equity is putting people in the *position* to succeed”. The dude doesn’t even know the definitional difference between equity and equality, and he assumes they are the same. He quoted the definition of equality which is equal inputs and opportunity. Equity is defined as equal outcomes. This dude shouldn’t even be up here conversing or posting on Twitter if he doesn’t have his definitions down first.
@Blaaake he's just like the rest of them. He redefines words to mean what he wants them to mean.
He's totally disingenuous here. He lied by implying that climate change regulations don't cost his business money. They do. He lied when he claimed going out into underserved communities give him better candidates. Its a cop out. You cannot employ that consistently with expected gain. It will always be anecdotal circumstances that would propel a candidate like that. And he recommends that for EVERYONE? Totally disingenuous.
In my opinion, Cuban is a little off for a while
Lol you watched this amazing interview and you came on here to split hairs amazing
@@DrewWalle redefining the root definitions of a widespread issue is not splitting hairs pal.
Vivek is always so fucking masterful at steering communication between people away from arguments and into productive conversations (even with the most hostile of people). Bless you Vivek. I really admire your conversation skills.
Wow, Mark has absolutely no self-control to have a productive conversation. He reminds me of Cenk!
so bad, always trying to up one on you
@@WhiteManXRP Liberals are evil. We like to pretend they aren't but we must admit they are.
Hate that guy Cerk
@@annepham1205 Me too. What an evil man.
He's so totally indoctrinated like Cenk ....the mind control over these people is unreal. As a former Democrat I got out of the cult of hate. Getting rid of that hate, anger and fear is such a relief...The Great Awakening
Vikek, I think your biggest asset is your ability to have fluid and constructive debate.
the fact that you dont antagonize your interlocutors help the audience to understand, at least, his thought.
The harder they make it for new business to get started (esp) the better it is for people that already are successful. When they make the cost to get started more expensive less people attempt to start.
This is what America needs to be - respectful diverse opinions that allow its citizens to clearly understand the issues.
13 mins in and I already love this conversation. Vivek always brings on guests that he disagrees with. There is more to learn from these kinds of conversations than just having some one likeminded.
Absolutely love Vivek. Young, intelligent, successful family man who I believe can bring humanity to politics
Vivek and Cuban are two of the brightest people from each political spectrum. This conversation was important and I appreciate you guys for doing this.
You seemed to miss what Mark said. He is not from an opposing political part as you inferred. He in fact said he supported Trump early in 2015.
Why not say the Indian and the Cuban 26:26
It makes absolutely no sense for Mark to be a Democrat. It makes NO sense. They are running on socialism. Capitalists don't want freaking socialism. Mark has a PERSONAL vendetta against Trump. He has severe, severe TDS.
Staunch Vivek admirer here, I have to say that I'm really impressed with Mark's intellect & logical ability.
What’d you think of the deflection of the Trump Uni comment?
Seemed kind of weak to call it a ‘personal attack’ when it clearly brings up the man’s ethics.
@@calvinmiguel4405 Vivek is wrong and Vivek knows he’s wrong but he has to concede in some points otherwise he will lose trumps favor because he knows the power of social media
It 100 percent causes people to think about race and creates animosity.
Yep. Never thought about race a single time until all this DEI crap. Always have and always will deeply believe we are all equal in value because we are human/created by God.
Back in the 90's, people didn't care much about race. Why was that? There were still racial problems but not universally.
Now, race is the dividing card to get politics done. Nothing more. DEI is an international effort of divide and conquer, not territory but minds.
Same thing as the gender craziness. It's not to bring "ethics", it's to get people to sterilize themselves so they can't reproduce. Sounds rash but so was eugenics in the 1920s. That eugenics movement has never gone away, in fact it has metastasized and morphed into what we see now.
@@jackbrunk3907 agreed. Cuban is disconnected. For someone working at a company with a DEI goal, when a white person is passed over for a job for someone not white. Immediately the white person will blame the DEI goal. Which immediately creates racism issues. Stop focusing on it and let that narrative die.
this is the type of content i crave. i feel like i walked away a little smarter. i also realize how much i have left to learn. BRAVO, Vivek! We need you running this country STAT ❤
Looking forward to this!
I love this podcast and especially this interaction between two different positions! This is what the world and America needs between all people. This is how the world grows and benefits
I love this chat and both perspectives. I love when 2 smart people with 2 completely different points of view debate because you learn so much and you can decide where you stand.
Having diversity of experiences and knowledge is valuable, but not on the basis of skin color with unqualified people.
Exactly
DEI and Affirmation Action has nothing to do with unqualified people whatsoever. You have been mislead. If a person is unqualified for a position, then they shouldn't have the job. But if they're qualified for the position, they should have a chance just like anybody else.
This is the best version of this debate I've ever seen. Well done.
Well, this was an awesome interview and I am so glad two people were able to go back-and-forth respectfully and that it was not a one-sided conversation.