The IJN Asahi, while built as a battleship in 1900, she was disarmed in 1923, and saw service as a repair ship, until being sunk by the USN. Additionally, I recall Settsu being decommissioned nearly 20 years prior to her sinking, and was converted into a target ship. You also missed the Oklahoma which was sunk at Pearl Harbor and declared a loss. The IJN Mutsu, while not sunk by Allied action, was destroyed by a crew member in an action of sabotage and protest. This BB may be excused from the list. As mentioned by another comment, the diameter of the shell and Caliber of the rifle are separate values when it comes to naval rifles. The Caliber refers to how long the barrel is in relation to the diameter of the shell it fires. This video could've been quite good, but a lack of basic fact-checking just kills it.
While they were constructed to the same design, they both underwent modernization through their career, loosing some of their secondary guns and gaining new AA Weaponry. From what I can tell they were modified as the war went on to slightly different designs, and Musashi sank in 1944, while Yamato sank in 1945, aparently after having more AA guns bolted on to her. It is probable that at the times of their respective sinking, Yamato had a greater displacement than Musashi
@@xxmedalofhonorxx6744 not all sister ships, or same class ships have identical dimensions and armament. Tirpitz was bigger and more heavily armed then Bismarck for example. Plenty of other examples of you look into it.
The Japanese also lost a battleship to an internal explosion not associated with enemy action. The US also had more ships sunk than listed. Oklahoma was sunk and a total loss. Several others sank but were salvaged. Utah and the first Japanese battleship listed were no longer operating as battleships at the time of their loss. Utah had been disarmed and demilitarised under terms of naval treaties. The research in this video is not of a particularly high standard. Drachinifel is a superior source for information related to naval subjects.
The Utah is still on the back side of Ford Island. At the time of the Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor, USS Utah was not a functioning battleship, having been redesignated as a target and training ship in 1931. All of her main guns and secondaries had been removed and she had been outfitted with 5"/38 dual purpose mounts to train gunners in the anti-air role.
The pictures of her at that time show just about every kind of 5" and smaller AA gun in the inventory. To bad they didn't get the word the Japanese were coming. Utah probably would have shot down her fair share of enemy aircraft.
We did the same thing with Wyoming for the Atlantic fleet. I think they mounted any and every AA weapon they could think of on her at one point in time or another. Her sister ship: Arkansas actually served in the war!! Always looked kinda funny, to see a 5"/38 mounted on a barbette made for twin 12" guns, lol.
My Commanding Officer’s father was onboard the USS Sealion when the Kongō was sunk. As it was stated by my CO from his father’s recollection, “It sent four torpedoes into the Kongō that night. A spread of six was launched, and four of the six hit. Fires broke out instantaneously, and they ravaged the ship for hours. About four hours later, they saw through the periscope the blinding flash of the ship blowing up. One of the forward 14-inch turrets was thrown clean off and landed about 1000 feet elsewhere”. I will never forget that tale. So riveting.
They forgot the U.S.S. Oklahoma capsized and sank during the battle of Pearl Harbor. Although repaired enough to be scrapped, she never returned to active duty. On her way to San Fransisco to be scrapped, her welds broke open and she sank in the Pacific somewhere between Hawaii and San Fransisco. Since she was never returned to active service she was considered destroyed.
it was still registered as a Battleship according to the naval records. and the japanese did not know that the Utah was a training/ target ship. they saw the gun turrets and attacked it
@@signolias100 by the London Navel Treaty the Utah had to be disarmed and reclassified. Which Japan was a signature to. The official designation of the Utah was not equipped with her 12" turrets but was used as a radio control target ship and aa training vessel. She was carried on the books as an miscellaneous auxiliary not as a battleship. Her hull number was AG16 when she was a battleship she was BB31. As for the bombing at pearl harbor it is understandable based on speed distance shape and experience to mis-identify the Utah.
@@ThumperE23 re read what i said man it AG means Auxiliary General. and no matter the classification. the ships class never changed it was still a Florida class battleship. as i said it isn't like the Langley which was originally a coaler in which they added a flight deck reclassified it and then changed the class and name of the ship totally. had they wanted or needed to, prior to her sinking, Utah could have been refitted and reclassified back into a battleship. but she was marked as total loss. and the Japanese also marked her as a battleship soooo while her classification is concerned she was a general Auxiliary ship. but in class and type she remaind a florida class battleship til the day she sank. it even says in official documentaries that Utah was a battleship, just no longer a useful one
@@signolias100 the Utah was salvageable they even had her righted to float her up. But the decided that since she was worthless, obsolete had outdated Power plant and could only fit obsolete 12in guns. If the war didn't come the only surviving 12in gun battleship would have been retired when the North Carolina was done with trials. The Utah was carried on the books as a training ship and unlike Japan there were never plans to return her to battleship status because she didn't preform well with the standard class battleship.
The USS Utah was not a battleship when it was sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack. It's large guns had been removed and its torpedo bulges were removed. It was being used as an anti-aircraft training vessel. Japanese pilots had been ordered not to waste ordinance on it - but did anyway. On the other hand the USS Oklahoma was so seriously damaged it was never returned to combat and sank in a storm when being towed back to the mainland to be scrapped. Left out was Japan's Mutsu, which mysteriously blew up in port. Mutsu was the sister ship of Nagato, which were Japan's most powerful battleships after the Yamatos.
The USS Oklahoma capsizing counts as being sunk. Although it was salvaged and later sunk again under tow.As of 2020 9 remains from the capsizing remain unaccounted for.
@@Wayne.J ma frend ,japanesse bbs look almost the same even if they don t have the same name, in general the model of bbs did not match with what she nentioned
@@farunespected178 Correct with Buzz Nagato is when she was captured - mainmast cut, rusty Very distinct BBs: 4 turrets vs 6. Placement of turrets, aft for Kongo, superfiring for Nagato, fore or aft of funnels and directions for Fusos and Ises
@@bushyfromoz8834 Frankly, neither was Utah. She had been converted into an anti-aircraft training ship and had her main guns removed. Utah had even been used as a aircraft target ship (using practice ammunition of course.) At the time of her sinking, Utah was not classed as a battleship and not even remotely capable for use a a battleship.
The USS West Virginia and USS Oklahoma were both sunk by torpedoes during the Pearl harbor attack. Both ships were raised. West Virginia was salvaged and rebuilt to appear in Battle of Surigao straits. USS Oklahoma was righted and refloated only to be scavanged and sold for scrap in 1946. BUT BOTH USS West Virginia and USS Oklahoma were sunk.
Also the California which sunk at Pear Harbor and the Nevada that was beached to keep her from blocking the entrance to Pearl Harbor. Along with the Oklahoma previously mentioned.
There's a documentary somewhere, that includes an interview with The Japanese pilot who SANK the West Virginia. He then later encountered her again at sea- risen from the depths, and totally refitted and modernized. He said that's when he knew they couldn't win...
Besides Arizona, the Oklahoma, West Virginia and California all sank and Nevada was beached in sinking condition at Pearl Harbor. They were all raised and three were returned to service after total rebuilds. Mutsu blew up and sank in 1943. Hyuga looked exactly like her sister Ise at the time of her loss. Both had been converted to battleship carrier hybrids. The Kongo was indeed torpedoed by Sealion. But her actual loss is a source of some controversy. Finally, Utah, Asahi, and Settsu were all former battleships but they were all in service in secondary duties at the time of their losses. All of that info is available with a little bit of research.
The guns are 16" 45 caliber, not 16" or 45 caliber. The Iowa's were 16" 50 caliber whereas South Dakota's for instance were the mentioned 16" 45 caliber
An important thing to note when talking about naval rifles, is that caliber usually refers to the length of the barrel in relation to the diameter of the shell.
US Losses: USS Arizona, USS Oklahoma, and USS Utah (even though she wasnt a battleship anymore, instead an AA training ship) all lost in Pearl Harbor. Japan losses: Pretty much everyone except for Nagato, whom we sank anyways in Operation Crossroads.
The USS Oklahoma was also "sunk" at Pearl Harbor.It was later raised and deemed unfit to repair.It's sad that she is never mention with the USS Arizona.
notice that only 2 US BBs show up on this list, though there should be 3 counting the Oklahoma, but by the end of the war her hull HAD been raised so maybe they didnt count her, as well as the other BBs sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack because of them being raised and refloated, and both are from the attack on Pearl Harbor, this is for 2 reasons, 1.) the US damage control for warships was far superior than that of Japan's at that time and 2.) the US went for CVs instead of BBs and we took out 4 of Japan's best CVs during Midway
there should have been five u.s. battleships. Arizona, Utah, California, West Virginia, and Oklahoma. of those Arizona, Utah, and Oklahoma were total loss ships. West Virginia, and California were both rebuilt and put back into action, but they were sunk thus should have made the list
the US absolutely had BBs too, 4 Iowa-class battleships (2nd biggest in the world), and had plans for 2 more, also having plans of making larger battleships of the Montana-class.
@@signolias100 Nevada was beached a part sunk but the only reason those ships are not on the list West Virginia Oklahoma California and Nevada were salvaged West Virginia Nevada and California were modernized and repaired and put back into service Oklahoma was suppose to be scrapped but the tow line snapped and sunk on the way to main land us her wreck is unknown Pennsylvania was in dry dock number 1 and a civilian crane operator George Walters saved her from enemy planes by using the crane arm to make the planes change course which helped as Pennsylvania took minor damage and and Tennessee and Maryland also took minor damage as they were stuck in battleship row but the damage on those 3 were enough to put them out of service
i'd agree that if the title of the video was ships permanently sunk in battle i'd agree. Nevada was fatally damaged and would have sunk in the channel into the harbor. the captain made the right call and beached her. as far as the Oklahoma she still should have been on the list as she sunk during towing during the war. as far as the Pennsylvania was concerned she was undergoing repairs and had three of four of her prop shafts removed. she was not combat ready to begin with. California and West Virginia should have been on this list as they did actually sink. while they were not total losses they still sank.
its because while we had battleships they werent used nearly as much as our cruiser, destroyers, submarines and carriers, of which we lost a fair amount of, japan used their battleships much more extensively
The USS Utah was NOT a battleship when she was sunk. She was officially AG-16 as of 1931. She was a target ship. SO NOT a BB at the time of Pearl harbor attack.
And you also forgot to mention the USS Oklahoma BB-37 Which was also totaled in the Pearl Harbor attack is it completely capsized and was subsequently Scrapped
Asahi and Settsu too, but a technicality, since they were built as Battleships. Though that being the case, Kaga, Shinano, and possibly Akagi, Lexington, and Saratoga should also be included.
@@cynicalhumanist5632 Kaga and shinano maybe since their construction started as battleships, they ended as carriers. Akagi, Lexington and Saratoga were meant to be battlecruisers so should not. funny enough, if the Amagi hadnt been so badly damaged in an earthquake, Kaga would have been scrapped as both Amagi's would have been converted to carriers mid construction.
USS Oklahoma was technically sunk at Pearl Harbor. Raised a year later, she was stripped of all guns an ammo, and 2 years later she was decommissioned as beyond repair. Oklahoma sank for the last time in 1947, as she was being towed from Pearl to San Francisco for a trip to the breakers yard.
TBH ... Japan was fighting battles at all FRONTS . Yet gave a big blow to USA . If japan had concentrated only on USA then it could have reached California
So your saying because Japan was fighting on different fronts, it would have been more dominant had they just focused on America? I guess with that philosophy of the USA hadn’t been supplying supplies to the USSR and Britain, we could have something focuses on Japan with our entire fleet and not fought in North Africa, Mediterranean, Northern Europe! Do you think we didn’t have a fleet in the Atlantic? Half our battleships, carriers, destroyers, and other craft were stationed in Norfolk and other bases along the east coast. Let’s also take a look at manufacturing! Had we just focused on fighting the Japanese the war would have been over two years earlier. We had more of everything, including manpower. Japans only hope was to have such a decisive attack at pearl that it kept us out for years. Guess what, they failed by not bombing our fuel depots and missing our carriers stationed out of pearl.
@@brentparks2292 US Navy was not engaged at European front . US Navy was only focused on japan . US army and airforce were engaged at European front . While Japanese navy was engaged at all fronts from USSR , Chinese provinces , British India and more regional powers .
America was also fighting on multiple fronts and supplying the other allied nations. Yamamoto even said japan wouldn't compete with america in a long term war die to their industry and superior technology and weapons. Japan barely had enough resources to run their navy, which is why ships like yamato stayed in port for long periods of time. Plus, japan had piss poor damage control crews, which is why one of their fleet carriers went down with just one bomb. Japan would of still got dominated by America even if they focused on America.
No they couldn't, their logistical train was strained to its limits when they attacked Pearl Harbor. They could have reached California but they could not have gotten back
Yamato was considered the only Kamikaze capital warship to undertake such a mission. She set off with fuel for a one way trip. It was hoped she could survive attack long enough to ground before she was sunk as to act as a fixed artillery position at Okinawa. A forlorn hope considering the thousands of land and sea based air power near enough to attack her literally every hour around the clock if needed. Fully aware they set sail anyway.
While not a battleship, destroyer Hammann and her crew distinguished themselves plenty at the Yorktown rescue attempt. When the Japanese shot torpedoes, Hammann tried to take it on the chin. Unfortunately, both ships sunk and hundreds of sailors died.
With the exception of the battleships destroyed in the attack on Pearl Harbour, no other Allied battleships or cruisers have been sunk in the Pacific to my knowledge, apart from the British Prince of Wales and Repulse (both sunk on 10 December 1941).
USS Pennsylvania was seriously damaged when moored next to USS Tennessee, It was patched up but not returned to duty as the war ended 3 days after a Japanese torpedo plane hit the ship.
@@danzervos7606 USS Pennsylvania BB-38 was in dry dock at Pearl and received minimal damage, most coming from fires on 2 destroyers in the dock with her.
We lost a TON of cruisers during the Pacific war. They were forced into frontline service, because after Pearl Harbor, they were all the capitol ships we had in the Pacific. For instance, the USS Juneau. An Atlanta class AA cruiser was sunk by repeated torpedo attacks. Among those killed were all five Sullivan brothers, prompting a change in policy, and seeing a Fletcher class DD get re-named USS The Sullivans. (the first time a US navy ship was ever named after multiple people) We currently have a Burke class DD named The Sullivans. The original is a museum ship in Buffalo, NY. Indianapolis was torpedoed late in the war, and sunk. It's crew weren't rescued until DAYS later, as nobody knew it was missing... The majority were lightly armored "Treaty cruisers" never designed for close range slugging matches with other cruisers- or battleships, much less the nasty long lance torpedo Japan fielded at the time. A lot of our interwar Heavy cruisers were "heavy" only in that they carried 8" guns, and had flag facilities. The armor wasn't much better than a light cruiser's, and had little torpedo protection. I believe the Brits, Aussies, and Dutch also lost a few cruisers out there, too. It still boggles my mind that the only battleships we lost in that theater were sunk in Pearl Harbor. The IJN sure tried, though.
@@pyroman6000 Yes, you are right, this focus on "capital ships" particularly overlooks the loss of life on "smaller units". In percentage terms, service on the Fletcher class has certainly cost far more sailors their lives than on a cruiser or even a battleship. P.S.: My reference to cruisers in the initial comment is simply wrong. I think the ABCD forces even lost all their cruisers.
Couple of notes: USS Utah was no longer an active battleship. She was designated a training ship and was not a ship of the line. USS Oklahoma capsized during the attack on Pearl Harbor. She was righted and refloated, however, the damage was too extensive to warrant repairs and returned to action. She was written off as a loss.
@@briananderson8733 BB-31 Laid down 9 March 1909 Launched 23 December 1909 Commissioned 31 August 1911 Decommissioned 5 September 1944 Stricken 13 November 1944 Fate Sunk in Attack on Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941. Hull near Ford Island.
@@briananderson8733 still registered as a battleship they didn't change the ship in any way the classification simply stated it was a general auxiliary warship. they did not change to do a different role (for example they did not change her into a carrier, repair ship, or coal tender) she was still being used for what she was built which was a big gun ship.
Aside from everything else, the small number of American battleship losses were misleading in terms of their actual usefulness, because they weren’t attacked all that much by the Japanese during WWII, and because they (especially the fast battleships) were largely restricted to supporting roles (that over vessels could have gotten done at less cost) and often didn’t even participate in engagements they were present for.
data is wrong, Yamato and Musashi where 263 meters long. Utah was not a battleship anymore but a training ship, Hiei was sunk east of savo by scuttling, she would have sunk anyway as she was under constant air attack by the cactus air force and had severe damage to her stern requiring her to be towed, this would have required Kirishima who was also needed for a 2nd bombard mission and hence could not be used, the decision to scuttle made by the captain of Hiei was later criticized by the Japanese navy as they wanted to save the ship. the battleship Mutsu exploded in port due to a magazine explosion caused by unstable propellant (cordite). the only Japanese battle ship that survived the war afloat and in decent shape was Nagato, she was sunk at Bikini atoll during a-bomb testing.
ise and hyuga were of the same size and class, both had been coverted to bb-cv types at the time of their sunk, you just had to visit wikipedia to check that
Arizona was built in 1916 Pennsylvania was her sister ship, that fought on until 1945. Her Nick name was " The angry sister". Pennsylvania was in dry dock on 12, 7, 1941. She was only slightly damaged by the attack. After the war she was used for atomic testing . She had to be sunk later by torpedoes because she didn't sink during the test. Tough old girl to the end.
At first I thought she was wrong when she attributed the attack on the Arizona that pierced her magazine to Nakajima B5N2's. I thought that unlikely, so I took a look at it. Sure enough, the BB was struck by a Kate that was dropping an 800 kg bomb from about 10,000 feet. Such a hit, even on a stationary target would have been the wildest stroke of luck, and yet it happened. So, apologies to the lady for my first knee jerk post, which has been deleted. She did, however, omit the Oklahoma, California and W. Virginia, although it is not difficult to understand why. I would have at least included the Oklahoma on the list because, even though she was refloated, she was a total loss and never saw service again. The Nevada survived to support the Normandy landings, the California lived to support the operations at Saipan and Guam, and the W. Virginia was one of the ships that sailed into Tokyo Bay at the end of the war.
You forgot to name the "USS Oklahoma" (BB-36). The Oklahoma was sunk by several torpedoes during the attack on Pearl Harbor and 429 crew died when she capsized on Battleship Row. Also the "USS California" (BB-44) lost 100 crew members that morning, after the ship suffered extensive flooding damage when hit by two torpedoes on the port side. Both torpedoes detonated below the armor belt causing virtually identical damage each time. A 250 kg bomb also entered the starboard upper deck level, which passed through the main deck and exploded on the armored second deck, setting off an anti-aircraft ammunition magazine and killing about 50 men.
You need to check a lot of facts. For instance Yamato was on a mission to guard Okinawa it was on a one way mission to attempt sinking of the US invasion fleet
USS Oklahoma sank under tow from Hawaii to Washington. USS Utah, and HIJMS Asahi and Settsu, were not designated as BB during WWII. HIJMS Mutsu exploded and sank at her moorings, cause unknown but sabotage suspected.
USS West Virginia and USS California were sunk at Pearl Harbor. They were raised and salvaged, but they were sunk by any definition of the word. USS Nevada was "beached" before she could sink, but one could count her as "sunk" as well, though she was also raised and salvaged. Just because a ship sinks in shallow waters doesn't mean that she wasn't sunk.
Two errors: the USS Utah was not a battleship by 1941, it was a radio controlled target ship with primary and secondary armament removed and the USS Oklahoma was not included. It capsized with a loss of over 400 men.
@@thebuzz4108 What?? I hope you're not stating there is a difference between capsized and sunken battleships in battle. And if you want to be technical about it, the Oklahoma sank while being towed to the breakers yard.
@@thebuzz4108 USS Oklahoma did SINK it capsized a special type of sinking that means its keel was visible above the water after the attack. USS Oklahoma was raised and refloated late in 1943. She was striken from the navy roles in 1944 and scavanged for steel and weapons. She was sold for scrap in 1946 and sank on the way to the scrappers. For a good aerial pix look up USS Wisconsin on wikipedia excellent pix of her tied up to oklahoma after scavenging in Pearl.
@@thebuzz4108 Oklahoma, like many of the battleships at perl, did sink. however, due to rolling into the mud and being an older standard, she was a low priority that was slated to be scrapped when her hulk was refloated unlike the sunk but completely rebuilt USS West Virginia. in transport from Hawaii to San Fransisco, Oklahoma was towed into a storm and the patches failed, resulting in the hulk sinking into the pacific. in fact the only ships that didnt sink or be classified as sunk were Pennsylvania (damaged when the destroyer next to her in drydock had its magazine explode), Nevada (beached, would have sunk otherwise), Tennessee (damaged), and Maryland (damaged). it was only through a monumental salvaging operation that all but 2 of the battleships were able to be refloated, repaired, and recommissioned.
"Sunk by japanese torpedo bombers that dropped armor piercing bombs" Uhh.. no. Bombers either dropped torpedoes in a flat trajectory close to the water keeping on the deck. And dive bombers who dropped the AP bombs from higher altitude after going into a dive. You probably aren't very familiar with the topic and that's fine. But for future reference.
The USS Utah was a training ship at the time of sinking as well. Her fate was already sealed. And Asahi while a Battleship in the Russo-Japanese War, at the time of sinking she was a repair ship, and was already previously a submarine depot ship. On top of even that, the Kongo class ships were Battlecruisers. Not Battleships. These would include Kongo, Hiei, Kirishima, and Haruna. Ise was also not a Battleship strictly speaking. She was what is commonly known as a "Battlecarrier" or hybrid battleship. Hyuga was also converted.
@@thetiredtechnician5845 Arizona was hit by a modified 16" shell converted to a bomb that was dropped by a B5N Kate torpedo plane that was flying in a horizontal/level bombing formations. So Buzz is correct
Technically the USS Pennsylvania sank from a torpedo hit off Okinawa in 1945. After the nuclear tests of Crossroads in 1946 the ship was too contaminated by radioactivity to be crewed. The ship was towed to deep water and when her pumps ran out of fuel she sank due to the progressive flooding from the torpedo hit. She had lost one of her propellor shafts after the torpedo hit, the Arizona class had marginal torpedo protection, and she nearly sank on the way back to the USA in 1945.
list of all sunken US and IJN battleships during ww2? Don't you think it would be better if you just rename it "list of sunken IJN battleships during WW2"?
Asahi wasn't really a battleship during the pacific war. It was converted into a multi task repair ship because Asahi was constructed during the early 1900 and had no armor or weapons capable to fight in that era so I think you shouldn't put her on the list
Utah also wasn't a battleship any more as it was sunk at Pearl Harbor. It was converted into a radio-controlled target ship in the early 30's and was used as a training ship since 1935.
@@khanhonam7196 "then can they sink a modern warship?"* if you know how to utilise the battleship, yes, yes they have the potetial. Modern warships, aside from carriers, are quite lightly armored, so HE shells would be enough. Against CV? AP shells
nice try a big enough Battleship Convoy can create an AA Bubble strong enougj to wipe out entire Plane Squadron good luck even trying to rush a Battleship Convoy
My dad was a battleship we used to have a picture of it. I forgot the name of it ( was too young) wish I knew the name of it he was near the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. He was navy frogman
There we 13 US Battleships that at one time or another involved in that long battle. It would be pretty easy to find out which one your dad was on. give me his name and I think I can find that out for you. I am a amateur genealogist who loves to find people family past just for fun, I love the Hunt.
You can find out by Contacting the Navy if you have his serial number and entry and discharge dates it will make it easier for them to help you. Probably on one of the old Standard class BBs or the Texas. They were shelling the hell out of the place but to a disappointing effect. The Japanese dug and built their defenses very well. This is something worth doing your Dad was one of the greatest generation, they saved the world.
@@ejdiii333 awesome I just noticed your reply. His name was. Earl Raymond Normand I don't know much more information. An thank you for being so generous. I say battleship but that too I'm not positive my brother has a picture of the ship with the name but it's like pulling his teeth to get anything from him. But he was there at Iwo jima
What about the Oklahoma? She was sunk at Pearl Harbor. Also Nevada had to ground herself (on Hospital Point in Pearl Harbor on December). And California and West Virginia sank, too. California, West Virginia and Nevada were re-floated, repaired and put back into commission, and all three saw combat, 43-45. Finally, Utah stopped being a battleship around 1930, serving as a largely unarmed target ship. Sorry, but I expected better more accuracy from your videos. Something else that is important: after the pearl harbor attack, no US battleships were sunk, but virtually all Japanese battleships were sunk by shio-to-ship combat, or by submarine torpedoes, or by aerial attack ... not sure if sea mines sank any battleships.
I'm no stranger to WW2 naval combat, but what the hell was a pre-dreadnaught era battleship doing in active service in WW2? I didn't think even the Japanese would use them because they are HOPELESSLY obsolete by the time the war happened.
Probably the same thing our Utah and Wyoming were doing: serving as training ships. Like Utah, she happened to be "there" when the base was attacked by carriers. It's also possible that it was a pure desperation move, if it was actually in full active duty. They were very short on ships at that time, and an invasion of the home islands was imminant. Both France and Greece had VERY old ships still in service during the war, as well. Paris, and Georgios Averos to name two. We fielded at least 3 dreadnoughts: Arkansas; New York, and Texas.
@@dutchthespitfire3204 Nope in the registers she was called a battleship from the time on she was built. And as said Yamato had a displacement of 70000 tons
AS a technicality...the battleships sunk at Pearl harbor were not sunk during WWII. The US did not declare war on Japan until the next day. True: the attack on Pearl Harbor was the final straw in precipitating that war, but the war did not begin, for us, until Dec 8th, for Japan and Dec 11th for Germany. and Italy.
Even the US Navy concedes 5 Battleships were sunk at Pearl Harbor. Think this source is the same that said US P-80 participated in WW2 as US's jet powered fighter. That is not true either.
FYI: This List includes only permanently sunken Battleships (not refloated ones). Thankyou
The IJN Asahi, while built as a battleship in 1900, she was disarmed in 1923, and saw service as a repair ship, until being sunk by the USN.
Additionally, I recall Settsu being decommissioned nearly 20 years prior to her sinking, and was converted into a target ship.
You also missed the Oklahoma which was sunk at Pearl Harbor and declared a loss.
The IJN Mutsu, while not sunk by Allied action, was destroyed by a crew member in an action of sabotage and protest. This BB may be excused from the list.
As mentioned by another comment, the diameter of the shell and Caliber of the rifle are separate values when it comes to naval rifles. The Caliber refers to how long the barrel is in relation to the diameter of the shell it fires.
This video could've been quite good, but a lack of basic fact-checking just kills it.
There is something more than incorrect with Yamato and Musashi they were sisterships and had the same size and displacement
Fun fact: musashi is the same class of the yamato so it should be the same size
While they were constructed to the same design, they both underwent modernization through their career, loosing some of their secondary guns and gaining new AA Weaponry. From what I can tell they were modified as the war went on to slightly different designs, and Musashi sank in 1944, while Yamato sank in 1945, aparently after having more AA guns bolted on to her. It is probable that at the times of their respective sinking, Yamato had a greater displacement than Musashi
@@xxmedalofhonorxx6744 not all sister ships, or same class ships have identical dimensions and armament. Tirpitz was bigger and more heavily armed then Bismarck for example. Plenty of other examples of you look into it.
The Japanese also lost a battleship to an internal explosion not associated with enemy action. The US also had more ships sunk than listed. Oklahoma was sunk and a total loss. Several others sank but were salvaged.
Utah and the first Japanese battleship listed were no longer operating as battleships at the time of their loss. Utah had been disarmed and demilitarised under terms of naval treaties.
The research in this video is not of a particularly high standard.
Drachinifel is a superior source for information related to naval subjects.
Indeed the Mutsu, a sister ship of the Nagato, in 1943.
Drach is the best!
This is just lazy Chicom AI-generated garbage.
The Utah is still on the back side of Ford Island. At the time of the Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor, USS Utah was not a functioning battleship, having been redesignated as a target and training ship in 1931. All of her main guns and secondaries had been removed and she had been outfitted with 5"/38 dual purpose mounts to train gunners in the anti-air role.
The pictures of her at that time show just about every kind of 5" and smaller AA gun in the inventory. To bad they didn't get the word the Japanese were coming. Utah probably would have shot down her fair share of enemy aircraft.
We did the same thing with Wyoming for the Atlantic fleet. I think they mounted any and every AA weapon they could think of on her at one point in time or another. Her sister ship: Arkansas actually served in the war!!
Always looked kinda funny, to see a 5"/38 mounted on a barbette made for twin 12" guns, lol.
My Commanding Officer’s father was onboard the USS Sealion when the Kongō was sunk. As it was stated by my CO from his father’s recollection, “It sent four torpedoes into the Kongō that night. A spread of six was launched, and four of the six hit. Fires broke out instantaneously, and they ravaged the ship for hours. About four hours later, they saw through the periscope the blinding flash of the ship blowing up. One of the forward 14-inch turrets was thrown clean off and landed about 1000 feet elsewhere”. I will never forget that tale. So riveting.
Wow that is amazing!
Asahi was a heckin' repair ship at the time she was torpedoed.
Asahi literally means "rely on" in Tagalog Lmfao
And the Arizona was moored at port.
A full 3.5 seconds were spent doing fact checking and data research for this video.
Being generous, you are.
Cute Lady voice -> garbage content but shiny
that is being generous.
NOT one of the better ones
They forgot the U.S.S. Oklahoma capsized and sank during the battle of Pearl Harbor. Although repaired enough to be scrapped, she never returned to active duty. On her way to San Fransisco to be scrapped, her welds broke open and she sank in the Pacific somewhere between Hawaii and San Fransisco. Since she was never returned to active service she was considered destroyed.
Yea that was a big omission.
Also Utah was a target ship and no longer capable of fighting.
the Utah wasn't a battleship anymore, it was disarmed and was used as a training ship/target.
same for the Asahi which had been a repair ship since 1923
it was still registered as a Battleship according to the naval records. and the japanese did not know that the Utah was a training/ target ship. they saw the gun turrets and attacked it
@@signolias100 by the London Navel Treaty the Utah had to be disarmed and reclassified. Which Japan was a signature to. The official designation of the Utah was not equipped with her 12" turrets but was used as a radio control target ship and aa training vessel. She was carried on the books as an miscellaneous auxiliary not as a battleship. Her hull number was AG16 when she was a battleship she was BB31. As for the bombing at pearl harbor it is understandable based on speed distance shape and experience to mis-identify the Utah.
@@ThumperE23 re read what i said man it AG means Auxiliary General. and no matter the classification. the ships class never changed it was still a Florida class battleship. as i said it isn't like the Langley which was originally a coaler in which they added a flight deck reclassified it and then changed the class and name of the ship totally. had they wanted or needed to, prior to her sinking, Utah could have been refitted and reclassified back into a battleship. but she was marked as total loss. and the Japanese also marked her as a battleship soooo while her classification is concerned she was a general Auxiliary ship. but in class and type she remaind a florida class battleship til the day she sank. it even says in official documentaries that Utah was a battleship, just no longer a useful one
@@signolias100 the Utah was salvageable they even had her righted to float her up. But the decided that since she was worthless, obsolete had outdated Power plant and could only fit obsolete 12in guns. If the war didn't come the only surviving 12in gun battleship would have been retired when the North Carolina was done with trials. The Utah was carried on the books as a training ship and unlike Japan there were never plans to return her to battleship status because she didn't preform well with the standard class battleship.
The USS Utah was not a battleship when it was sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack. It's large guns had been removed and its torpedo bulges were removed. It was being used as an anti-aircraft training vessel. Japanese pilots had been ordered not to waste ordinance on it - but did anyway. On the other hand the USS Oklahoma was so seriously damaged it was never returned to combat and sank in a storm when being towed back to the mainland to be scrapped. Left out was Japan's Mutsu, which mysteriously blew up in port. Mutsu was the sister ship of Nagato, which were Japan's most powerful battleships after the Yamatos.
They initially mistook the Utah for an aircraft carrier
The USS Oklahoma capsizing counts as being sunk. Although it was salvaged and later sunk again under tow.As of 2020 9 remains from the capsizing remain unaccounted for.
Last one shown at beginning was Bismarck.
they forgot the California and West Virginia too
@@signolias100 She said she didn’t count ships that were recovered and repaired. Only permanently sunk
@@inferno963 again Oklahoma resunk on her tow back to California and was totally lost therefore it counts
@@signolias100 Yeah you are right about that. Some people complain about the California too tho.
"Next we have musashi"
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Not Nagato?
If you like her so much, let me send you to her.
@@Wayne.J ma frend ,japanesse bbs look almost the same even if they don t have the same name, in general the model of bbs did not match with what she nentioned
@@farunespected178
Correct with Buzz
Nagato is when she was captured - mainmast cut, rusty
Very distinct BBs: 4 turrets vs 6. Placement of turrets, aft for Kongo, superfiring for Nagato, fore or aft of funnels and directions for Fusos and Ises
It's Nagato
What about the Mutsu? It exploded in June 1943 while in harbor, her magazines exploded in Japan
It sunk by itself, not in combat
@@thebuzz4108 What about Oklahoma then?
Oh yeah forgot about that
@@thebuzz4108 Settsu and Asahi were no longer battleships when they were sunk, at least Mutsu was.
@@bushyfromoz8834 Frankly, neither was Utah. She had been converted into an anti-aircraft training ship and had her main guns removed. Utah had even been used as a aircraft target ship (using practice ammunition of course.) At the time of her sinking, Utah was not classed as a battleship and not even remotely capable for use a a battleship.
The USS West Virginia and USS Oklahoma were both sunk by torpedoes during the Pearl harbor attack. Both ships were raised. West Virginia was salvaged and rebuilt to appear in Battle of Surigao straits. USS Oklahoma was righted and refloated only to be scavanged and sold for scrap in 1946. BUT BOTH USS West Virginia and USS Oklahoma were sunk.
Also the California which sunk at Pear Harbor and the Nevada that was beached to keep her from blocking the entrance to Pearl Harbor. Along with the Oklahoma previously mentioned.
There's a documentary somewhere, that includes an interview with The Japanese pilot who SANK the West Virginia. He then later encountered her again at sea- risen from the depths, and totally refitted and modernized. He said that's when he knew they couldn't win...
Besides Arizona, the Oklahoma, West Virginia and California all sank and Nevada was beached in sinking condition at Pearl Harbor. They were all raised and three were returned to service after total rebuilds. Mutsu blew up and sank in 1943. Hyuga looked exactly like her sister Ise at the time of her loss. Both had been converted to battleship carrier hybrids. The Kongo was indeed torpedoed by Sealion. But her actual loss is a source of some controversy. Finally, Utah, Asahi, and Settsu were all former battleships but they were all in service in secondary duties at the time of their losses. All of that info is available with a little bit of research.
Oklahoma was to be scrapped in California but sunk on her way to the scrap yard.
Really informative video of each ship
The guns are 16" 45 caliber, not 16" or 45 caliber. The Iowa's were 16" 50 caliber whereas South Dakota's for instance were the mentioned 16" 45 caliber
An important thing to note when talking about naval rifles, is that caliber usually refers to the length of the barrel in relation to the diameter of the shell.
US Losses: USS Arizona, USS Oklahoma, and USS Utah (even though she wasnt a battleship anymore, instead an AA training ship) all lost in Pearl Harbor.
Japan losses: Pretty much everyone except for Nagato, whom we sank anyways in Operation Crossroads.
The USS Oklahoma was also "sunk" at Pearl Harbor.It was later raised and deemed unfit to repair.It's sad that she is never mention with the USS Arizona.
New sub SSN 802 U.S.S. Oklahoma, SSN 803 U.S.S. Arizona. About time!
@@markman613 Because it was righted and refloated. It sunk under tow to the mainland for scrapping.
Yamato and Musashi are 263 meters long.
Yes, and she also got their displacemenr wrong
@@dutchthespitfire3204 Oh, you’re right!
Also musashi is a tad but longer than yamato i think
@@dagreetpapirusmusic9163 Yamato was bigger due to musashi never receiveing the 1945 refit for her class
notice that only 2 US BBs show up on this list, though there should be 3 counting the Oklahoma, but by the end of the war her hull HAD been raised so maybe they didnt count her, as well as the other BBs sunk during the Pearl Harbor attack because of them being raised and refloated, and both are from the attack on Pearl Harbor, this is for 2 reasons, 1.) the US damage control for warships was far superior than that of Japan's at that time and 2.) the US went for CVs instead of BBs and we took out 4 of Japan's best CVs during Midway
there should have been five u.s. battleships. Arizona, Utah, California, West Virginia, and Oklahoma. of those Arizona, Utah, and Oklahoma were total loss ships. West Virginia, and California were both rebuilt and put back into action, but they were sunk thus should have made the list
@@signolias100 Utah was no longer a battleship at this point she was a target ship,
the US absolutely had BBs too, 4 Iowa-class battleships (2nd biggest in the world), and had plans for 2 more, also having plans of making larger battleships of the Montana-class.
@@signolias100 Nevada was beached a part sunk but the only reason those ships are not on the list West Virginia Oklahoma California and Nevada were salvaged West Virginia Nevada and California were modernized and repaired and put back into service Oklahoma was suppose to be scrapped but the tow line snapped and sunk on the way to main land us her wreck is unknown Pennsylvania was in dry dock number 1 and a civilian crane operator George Walters saved her from enemy planes by using the crane arm to make the planes change course which helped as Pennsylvania took minor damage and and Tennessee and Maryland also took minor damage as they were stuck in battleship row but the damage on those 3 were enough to put them out of service
i'd agree that if the title of the video was ships permanently sunk in battle i'd agree. Nevada was fatally damaged and would have sunk in the channel into the harbor. the captain made the right call and beached her. as far as the Oklahoma she still should have been on the list as she sunk during towing during the war.
as far as the Pennsylvania was concerned she was undergoing repairs and had three of four of her prop shafts removed. she was not combat ready to begin with. California and West Virginia should have been on this list as they did actually sink. while they were not total losses they still sank.
You forgot the Oklahoma.
Ise Sunk during the battle of letters gulf by carrier aircraft in 1944 and it wasn't scrapped
Isn't it funny the only battleships America lost were at Pearl Harbor
its because while we had battleships they werent used nearly as much as our cruiser, destroyers, submarines and carriers, of which we lost a fair amount of, japan used their battleships much more extensively
@@Klimotine ok thanks for the information
The USS Utah was NOT a battleship when she was sunk. She was officially AG-16 as of 1931. She was a target ship. SO NOT a BB at the time of Pearl harbor attack.
And you also forgot to mention the USS Oklahoma BB-37 Which was also totaled in the Pearl Harbor attack is it completely capsized and was subsequently Scrapped
Utah was built as a battleship and fought her last battle against an enemy who considered her to be one. She deserves to be remembered AS one.
@@stevenpilling5318 Exactly So do all those who perished that day
Asahi and Settsu too, but a technicality, since they were built as Battleships. Though that being the case, Kaga, Shinano, and possibly Akagi, Lexington, and Saratoga should also be included.
@@cynicalhumanist5632 Kaga and shinano maybe since their construction started as battleships, they ended as carriers. Akagi, Lexington and Saratoga were meant to be battlecruisers so should not. funny enough, if the Amagi hadnt been so badly damaged in an earthquake, Kaga would have been scrapped as both Amagi's would have been converted to carriers mid construction.
Fun fact the bombs which destroyed arizona were old reused 16inch Ap shells from fuso which had wings fitted to them
Fuso-class had 14" (356mm) guns. Nagato-class had 16.1" (410mm) guns.
@@cbsdracster6494 yes your obviusly are right. I must have mixed something up, i have to look it up again which one it was
Why for IJN Musashi, did you show an image of what looked like the IJN Kongō?
It's Nagato
@@solis9482 sorry. Couldn’t tell exactly from the front
There were 1177 fatalities on the USS Arizona, not 1777 as shown.
i dont think there 1777 men on the ship
They said the correct number though
USS Oklahoma was technically sunk at Pearl Harbor. Raised a year later, she was stripped of all guns an ammo, and 2 years later she was decommissioned as beyond repair. Oklahoma sank for the last time in 1947, as she was being towed from Pearl to San Francisco for a trip to the breakers yard.
TBH ... Japan was fighting battles at all FRONTS . Yet gave a big blow to USA . If japan had concentrated only on USA then it could have reached California
So your saying because Japan was fighting on different fronts, it would have been more dominant had they just focused on America? I guess with that philosophy of the USA hadn’t been supplying supplies to the USSR and Britain, we could have something focuses on Japan with our entire fleet and not fought in North Africa, Mediterranean, Northern Europe! Do you think we didn’t have a fleet in the Atlantic? Half our battleships, carriers, destroyers, and other craft were stationed in Norfolk and other bases along the east coast. Let’s also take a look at manufacturing! Had we just focused on fighting the Japanese the war would have been over two years earlier. We had more of everything, including manpower. Japans only hope was to have such a decisive attack at pearl that it kept us out for years. Guess what, they failed by not bombing our fuel depots and missing our carriers stationed out of pearl.
@@brentparks2292 US Navy was not engaged at European front . US Navy was only focused on japan . US army and airforce were engaged at European front .
While Japanese navy was engaged at all fronts from USSR , Chinese provinces , British India and more regional powers .
America was also fighting on multiple fronts and supplying the other allied nations. Yamamoto even said japan wouldn't compete with america in a long term war die to their industry and superior technology and weapons. Japan barely had enough resources to run their navy, which is why ships like yamato stayed in port for long periods of time. Plus, japan had piss poor damage control crews, which is why one of their fleet carriers went down with just one bomb. Japan would of still got dominated by America even if they focused on America.
@@power3480
An average American reply 😑😑 .
No they couldn't, their logistical train was strained to its limits when they attacked Pearl Harbor.
They could have reached California but they could not have gotten back
Yamato was considered the only Kamikaze capital warship to undertake such a mission. She set off with fuel for a one way trip. It was hoped she could survive attack long enough to ground before she was sunk as to act as a fixed artillery position at Okinawa. A forlorn hope considering the thousands of land and sea based air power near enough to attack her literally every hour around the clock if needed. Fully aware they set sail anyway.
While not a battleship, destroyer Hammann and her crew distinguished themselves plenty at the Yorktown rescue attempt. When the Japanese shot torpedoes, Hammann tried to take it on the chin. Unfortunately, both ships sunk and hundreds of sailors died.
The picture at 3:52 is not Musashi, that is Nagato.
With the exception of the battleships destroyed in the attack on Pearl Harbour, no other Allied battleships or cruisers have been sunk in the Pacific to my knowledge, apart from the British Prince of Wales and Repulse (both sunk on 10 December 1941).
CORRECT
USS Pennsylvania was seriously damaged when moored next to USS Tennessee, It was patched up but not returned to duty as the war ended 3 days after a Japanese torpedo plane hit the ship.
@@danzervos7606 USS Pennsylvania BB-38 was in dry dock at Pearl and received minimal damage, most coming from fires on 2 destroyers in the dock with her.
We lost a TON of cruisers during the Pacific war. They were forced into frontline service, because after Pearl Harbor, they were all the capitol ships we had in the Pacific. For instance, the USS Juneau. An Atlanta class AA cruiser was sunk by repeated torpedo attacks. Among those killed were all five Sullivan brothers, prompting a change in policy, and seeing a Fletcher class DD get re-named USS The Sullivans. (the first time a US navy ship was ever named after multiple people) We currently have a Burke class DD named The Sullivans. The original is a museum ship in Buffalo, NY.
Indianapolis was torpedoed late in the war, and sunk. It's crew weren't rescued until DAYS later, as nobody knew it was missing...
The majority were lightly armored "Treaty cruisers" never designed for close range slugging matches with other cruisers- or battleships, much less the nasty long lance torpedo Japan fielded at the time. A lot of our interwar Heavy cruisers were "heavy" only in that they carried 8" guns, and had flag facilities. The armor wasn't much better than a light cruiser's, and had little torpedo protection. I believe the Brits, Aussies, and Dutch also lost a few cruisers out there, too.
It still boggles my mind that the only battleships we lost in that theater were sunk in Pearl Harbor. The IJN sure tried, though.
@@pyroman6000 Yes, you are right, this focus on "capital ships" particularly overlooks the loss of life on "smaller units". In percentage terms, service on the Fletcher class has certainly cost far more sailors their lives than on a cruiser or even a battleship. P.S.: My reference to cruisers in the initial comment is simply wrong. I think the ABCD forces even lost all their cruisers.
Couple of notes: USS Utah was no longer an active battleship. She was designated a training ship and was not a ship of the line. USS Oklahoma capsized during the attack on Pearl Harbor. She was righted and refloated, however, the damage was too extensive to warrant repairs and returned to action. She was written off as a loss.
You also forgot the Japanese Battleship Mutsu. An unknown explosion sank her in harbor in Japan during the war
USS Arizona was not the first hit (or sunk) at Pearl. It was the USS Utah.
USS Utah was a target ship AG-16 as of 1931 and was NOT a BB when sunk.
@@briananderson8733
BB-31
Laid down 9 March 1909
Launched 23 December 1909
Commissioned 31 August 1911
Decommissioned 5 September 1944
Stricken 13 November 1944
Fate Sunk in Attack on Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941. Hull near Ford Island.
@@briananderson8733 build as a battleship.
Recongised by japan as a battleship.
Sank like a battleship.
@@briananderson8733 still registered as a battleship they didn't change the ship in any way the classification simply stated it was a general auxiliary warship. they did not change to do a different role (for example they did not change her into a carrier, repair ship, or coal tender) she was still being used for what she was built which was a big gun ship.
@@MatHelm My grandfather served on Utah. She was his second ship. He served on her from 1933- 1935 as a machinist mate.
Fun fact: US never lost another battleships outside Pearl Harbor
The picture at 3:55 is not the Musashi, she had triple 18 inch guns the ship shown has twin 16s at most.
Look like a Nagato class battleship
@@duytranuc4025 Agreed
Aside from everything else, the small number of American battleship losses were misleading in terms of their actual usefulness, because they weren’t attacked all that much by the Japanese during WWII, and because they (especially the fast battleships) were largely restricted to supporting roles (that over vessels could have gotten done at less cost) and often didn’t even participate in engagements they were present for.
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So I'm Guessing That Your Going To Do Germans & British Next 🤔😃. I Can't Wait 😃
Ok here we go I’ll do it
Barham
Royal oak
Prince of wales
Iron duke
Bismarck
Scharnhorst. Was kinda simple if you ask me
@@rmscelticlines3374 scharnhorst sister also sank. Tirpitz (Bismarcks sister) HMS hood and HMS repulse
Utah was a decommissioned target/gunnery ship in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack on pearl.
data is wrong, Yamato and Musashi where 263 meters long. Utah was not a battleship anymore but a training ship, Hiei was sunk east of savo by scuttling, she would have sunk anyway as she was under constant air attack by the cactus air force and had severe damage to her stern requiring her to be towed, this would have required Kirishima who was also needed for a 2nd bombard mission and hence could not be used, the decision to scuttle made by the captain of Hiei was later criticized by the Japanese navy as they wanted to save the ship.
the battleship Mutsu exploded in port due to a magazine explosion caused by unstable propellant (cordite).
the only Japanese battle ship that survived the war afloat and in decent shape was Nagato, she was sunk at Bikini atoll during a-bomb testing.
ise and hyuga were of the same size and class, both had been coverted to bb-cv types at the time of their sunk, you just had to visit wikipedia to check that
BBV* they're*
Fun fact
Asahi was made in 1900 and was used during the Russo Japanese war. So it was about 40 years old when she was sunk
They should have all listened to Billy Mitchell who stated an airplane can sink a battleship. World war two proved it in some ways.
Arizona was built in 1916
Pennsylvania was her sister ship, that fought on until 1945. Her Nick name was " The angry sister".
Pennsylvania was in dry dock on 12, 7, 1941. She was only slightly damaged by the attack.
After the war she was used for atomic testing . She had to be sunk later by torpedoes because she didn't sink during the test.
Tough old girl to the end.
She was also no longer a BB but a repair ship!
At first I thought she was wrong when she attributed the attack on the Arizona that pierced her magazine to Nakajima B5N2's. I thought that unlikely, so I took a look at it. Sure enough, the BB was struck by a Kate that was dropping an 800 kg bomb from about 10,000 feet. Such a hit, even on a stationary target would have been the wildest stroke of luck, and yet it happened. So, apologies to the lady for my first knee jerk post, which has been deleted. She did, however, omit the Oklahoma, California and W. Virginia, although it is not difficult to understand why. I would have at least included the Oklahoma on the list because, even though she was refloated, she was a total loss and never saw service again. The Nevada survived to support the Normandy landings, the California lived to support the operations at Saipan and Guam, and the W. Virginia was one of the ships that sailed into Tokyo Bay at the end of the war.
You forgot to name the "USS Oklahoma" (BB-36). The Oklahoma was sunk by several torpedoes during the attack on Pearl Harbor and 429 crew died when she capsized on Battleship Row. Also the "USS California" (BB-44) lost 100 crew members that morning, after the ship suffered extensive flooding damage when hit by two torpedoes on the port side. Both torpedoes detonated below the armor belt causing virtually identical damage each time. A 250 kg bomb also entered the starboard upper deck level, which passed through the main deck and exploded on the armored second deck, setting off an anti-aircraft ammunition magazine and killing about 50 men.
What about the kreigsmarine???
Hey
Can you please make a video on Daring operations done by Indian special forces
Please make it this is my first request in this channel
What about the Oklahoma? Capsized at Pearl Harbor, she sank while under tow to the mainland.
How about a list of the British, German and Italian Battleships and Battlecruisers sunk in WWII?
You need to check a lot of facts. For instance Yamato was on a mission to guard Okinawa it was on a one way mission to attempt sinking of the US invasion fleet
The USA has NEVER lost a BB while underway or during a declared war. FWIW, WWII had not started yet when our ships were sunk at anchor.
The WWII started in September 1939. I know, Americans are a bit slower on the intake but hey, eventually, the reality had hit them.
I the us didn't really use battleships, and the ones they did use were used for shore bombardment and screening carriers
USS Oklahoma sank under tow from Hawaii to Washington.
USS Utah, and HIJMS Asahi and Settsu, were not designated as BB during WWII.
HIJMS Mutsu exploded and sank at her moorings, cause unknown but sabotage suspected.
USS West Virginia and USS California were sunk at Pearl Harbor. They were raised and salvaged, but they were sunk by any definition of the word. USS Nevada was "beached" before she could sink, but one could count her as "sunk" as well, though she was also raised and salvaged. Just because a ship sinks in shallow waters doesn't mean that she wasn't sunk.
USS Oklahoma and IJN Mutsu are missing.
Where is the Mutsu?? You know, the Nagato's sister ship. Blew up in Tokyo Harbor.
not in combat
@@thebuzz4108 Correct. Maybe an accident but maybe sabotage by disgruntled crew.
@@thebuzz4108 The title doesn't mention combat. Also you don't mention Oklahoma which was sunk in combat.
Mutsu blew herself up in port during the war, sister to Nagato, she was a total write off.
The photo is of a Nagato class Battleship. It’s not the Musashi.
Two errors: the USS Utah was not a battleship by 1941, it was a radio controlled target ship with primary and secondary armament removed and the USS Oklahoma was not included. It capsized with a loss of over 400 men.
And maybe Mutsu could be included even when its loss wasnt a combat loss...
USS OKlahoma didn't sink.. The video is about sunken battleships
@@thebuzz4108 What?? I hope you're not stating there is a difference between capsized and sunken battleships in battle. And if you want to be technical about it, the Oklahoma sank while being towed to the breakers yard.
@@thebuzz4108 USS Oklahoma did SINK it capsized a special type of sinking that means its keel was visible above the water after the attack. USS Oklahoma was raised and refloated late in 1943. She was striken from the navy roles in 1944 and scavanged for steel and weapons. She was sold for scrap in 1946 and sank on the way to the scrappers.
For a good aerial pix look up USS Wisconsin on wikipedia excellent pix of her tied up to oklahoma after scavenging in Pearl.
@@thebuzz4108 Oklahoma, like many of the battleships at perl, did sink. however, due to rolling into the mud and being an older standard, she was a low priority that was slated to be scrapped when her hulk was refloated unlike the sunk but completely rebuilt USS West Virginia. in transport from Hawaii to San Fransisco, Oklahoma was towed into a storm and the patches failed, resulting in the hulk sinking into the pacific.
in fact the only ships that didnt sink or be classified as sunk were Pennsylvania (damaged when the destroyer next to her in drydock had its magazine explode), Nevada (beached, would have sunk otherwise), Tennessee (damaged), and Maryland (damaged). it was only through a monumental salvaging operation that all but 2 of the battleships were able to be refloated, repaired, and recommissioned.
Hey,that Utah photo was captured in Warship Craft 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ooh so you noticed it too
"Sunk by japanese torpedo bombers that dropped armor piercing bombs" Uhh.. no. Bombers either dropped torpedoes in a flat trajectory close to the water keeping on the deck. And dive bombers who dropped the AP bombs from higher altitude after going into a dive. You probably aren't very familiar with the topic and that's fine. But for future reference.
The USS Utah was a training ship at the time of sinking as well. Her fate was already sealed. And Asahi while a Battleship in the Russo-Japanese War, at the time of sinking she was a repair ship, and was already previously a submarine depot ship. On top of even that, the Kongo class ships were Battlecruisers. Not Battleships. These would include Kongo, Hiei, Kirishima, and Haruna. Ise was also not a Battleship strictly speaking. She was what is commonly known as a "Battlecarrier" or hybrid battleship. Hyuga was also converted.
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Arizona was hit by a modified 16" shell converted to a bomb that was dropped by a B5N Kate torpedo plane that was flying in a horizontal/level bombing formations. So Buzz is correct
Technically the USS Pennsylvania sank from a torpedo hit off Okinawa in 1945. After the nuclear tests of Crossroads in 1946 the ship was too contaminated by radioactivity to be crewed. The ship was towed to deep water and when her pumps ran out of fuel she sank due to the progressive flooding from the torpedo hit. She had lost one of her propellor shafts after the torpedo hit, the Arizona class had marginal torpedo protection, and she nearly sank on the way back to the USA in 1945.
list of all sunken US and IJN battleships during ww2?
Don't you think it would be better if you just rename it "list of sunken IJN battleships during WW2"?
You forgot uss Oklahoma, though it was refloated, it still was lost under tow transit back to mainland US
Musashi sunk in philippines
3:30
Yeah
USS Indianapolis (CL/CA-35) closest thing to a BB sunk during a declared war.
after pearl harbor no US battleships were lost
**cough cough** Arizona **cough**
@@Correction_Guy maybe you did not read my post let me quote "after pearl harbor no US battleships were lost." get something for that cough.
@@dalecarney6582 seems like I misread your comment, my bad
@@Correction_Guy no problem at least you did not call me a racist, have a good day
Asahi wasn't really a battleship during the pacific war.
It was converted into a multi task repair ship because Asahi was constructed during the early 1900 and had no armor or weapons capable to fight in that era so I think you shouldn't put her on the list
Settsu was a similar case. Both were outdated battleships relegated to other tasks during WW2.
Utah also wasn't a battleship any more as it was sunk at Pearl Harbor. It was converted into a radio-controlled target ship in the early 30's and was used as a training ship since 1935.
@@balli7836 Didn't know that
@@robskalas I think Settu was used as a training battle ship for young recruits
I think we got even.
This also ended the era of battleships and opened the era of aircraft carriers
until you equip battleships with better equipment
@@Correction_Guy then can they sunk the modern ships
@@khanhonam7196 "then can they sink a modern warship?"*
if you know how to utilise the battleship, yes, yes they have the potetial. Modern warships, aside from carriers, are quite lightly armored, so HE shells would be enough. Against CV? AP shells
nice try a big enough Battleship Convoy can create an AA Bubble strong enougj to wipe out entire Plane Squadron good luck even trying to rush a Battleship Convoy
My dad was a battleship we used to have a picture of it. I forgot the name of it ( was too young) wish I knew the name of it he was near the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. He was navy frogman
There we 13 US Battleships that at one time or another involved in that long battle. It would be pretty easy to find out which one your dad was on. give me his name and I think I can find that out for you. I am a amateur genealogist who loves to find people family past just for fun, I love the Hunt.
You can find out by Contacting the Navy if you have his serial number and entry and discharge dates it will make it easier for them to help you. Probably on one of the old Standard class BBs or the Texas. They were shelling the hell out of the place but to a disappointing effect. The Japanese dug and built their defenses very well. This is something worth doing your Dad was one of the greatest generation, they saved the world.
@@ejdiii333 awesome I just noticed your reply. His name was. Earl Raymond Normand I don't know much more information. An thank you for being so generous. I say battleship but that too I'm not positive my brother has a picture of the ship with the name but it's like pulling his teeth to get anything from him. But he was there at Iwo jima
Forget the battleship ijn mutsu
What about the Oklahoma? She was sunk at Pearl Harbor. Also Nevada had to ground herself (on Hospital Point in Pearl Harbor on December). And California and West Virginia sank, too. California, West Virginia and Nevada were re-floated, repaired and put back into commission, and all three saw combat, 43-45. Finally, Utah stopped being a battleship around 1930, serving as a largely unarmed target ship.
Sorry, but I expected better more accuracy from your videos. Something else that is important: after the pearl harbor attack, no US battleships were sunk, but virtually all Japanese battleships were sunk by shio-to-ship combat, or by submarine torpedoes, or by aerial attack ... not sure if sea mines sank any battleships.
, Arizona, and Oklahoma, and West Virginia (Or W. Virginia)
how about the US ships sunk by the kamakazi pilots not included in your list
I'm no stranger to WW2 naval combat, but what the hell was a pre-dreadnaught era battleship doing in active service in WW2? I didn't think even the Japanese would use them because they are HOPELESSLY obsolete by the time the war happened.
Probably the same thing our Utah and Wyoming were doing: serving as training ships. Like Utah, she happened to be "there" when the base was attacked by carriers. It's also possible that it was a pure desperation move, if it was actually in full active duty. They were very short on ships at that time, and an invasion of the home islands was imminant.
Both France and Greece had VERY old ships still in service during the war, as well. Paris, and Georgios Averos to name two. We fielded at least 3 dreadnoughts: Arkansas; New York, and Texas.
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THAT is NOT a Musashi.
Really....
it has a twi turret.
Musashi had triple turret.....
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What about the USS Oklahoma?
Althoguh it's got a fair errors, the "16 inch or 45 calibre guns" comment really tilted me for some reason, and Mutsu should get a mention.
The worst part is 16 inches equals 40.6 cm.
Where is the Shinano? That was my favorite Japanese ship and you didn't mention it?
Your favourite ship? Yet you don't know that it's not a battleship?
Shinano was half-built before being converted as an aircraft carrier.
My Uncle, Raymond Peck was killed when a bomb hit the USS FRANKLIN.
Bruh that USS utah in video is from warship craft game bruh
Forgot Oklahoma still was raised but still sunk from flooding being towed to the main land
Utah is still floating i mean sunk but its capisized it can still be seen on Pearl Harbor Ford Island,Hawaii,USA
A full 1 second of research and finding pictures was put into this video, I bet they just searched up “Japanese Battleships” and chose the first ones
Mutsu self destructed Tuesday 8 June 1943. That still counts as a total loss.
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Hello? USS Oklahoma?
Thats funny. I dont see the USS Johnston anywhere
She only thought she was a Battleship lol
You missed Oklahoma and Mutsu.
Mutsu had magazine explosion was nit sunk in battle
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Capsized and scrapped is used interchangeably here. Not the same thing.
Kongo was a battlecruiser and Yamato's displacment was 85, 000 tons, not 70,000 tons
Kongo was officially a Battleship, but had speed and armor of a BC, it is like the Scharnhorst class, but you are wrong
And Yamatos diesplacement was 70000tons, look it up before saying things like that
@@brokenwolf2568 Kongo was definitly built as a bc but bcus of refits she could be called a fast light-battlship
@@dutchthespitfire3204 Nope in the registers she was called a battleship from the time on she was built. And as said Yamato had a displacement of 70000 tons
@@brokenwolf2568 She was built as a Battlecruiser but later re identified as a Battleship after a Refit in 1935
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and the arizona can be seen to
AS a technicality...the battleships sunk at Pearl harbor were not sunk during WWII. The US did not declare war on Japan until the next day. True: the attack on Pearl Harbor was the final straw in precipitating that war, but the war did not begin, for us, until Dec 8th, for Japan and Dec 11th for Germany. and Italy.
And Haruna is not a battleship.....
i am going like a broken record by now :D
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again - KONGO IS NOT A BATTLESHIP !
Nah. USS West Virginia was hit first, two torpedoes from Akagi's first wave hit the ship.
Even the US Navy concedes 5 Battleships were sunk at Pearl Harbor. Think this source is the same that said US P-80 participated in WW2 as US's jet powered fighter. That is not true either.