What are the chances that JWST would come online during the time that Astrophysicist Priya Natarajan would be proposing her hypothesis of how supermassive black holes could form so quickly in the early universe, ~400,000 years after the big bang? It is one of those serendipitous moments in the history of science. Thank you so much for presenting such extraordinary content.
Einstein was more than a brilliant scientist. He was a man that was truly devoted to truth, even if it meant saying he was wrong. We could use more great men like that today.
Also, Steven Wright: “I was in a job interview and I opened a book and started reading. The guy said, ‘What the hell are you doing?’ Then I said to the guy, ‘Let me ask you a question: If you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?’ He said, ‘I don’t know.’ I said, ‘Forget it. I don’t want to work for you.’”
I like this style. Having 7 panelists, and trying to ask them all questions and then they want to jump in while someone else is talking is chaotic. And Brian Green does not try to show off his knowledge, and he asks the correct question for the audience although he knows more about the topic.
Exceptional scientist: Dr. Natrajan ❤Brilliant 🎉conversation history woven into discovery !!! Wondering, whether black holes are sources multiple universes ??
WOW ! Truth is STRANGER than Fiction ! .... Not only Black Holes are real but Super-Massive Black Holes billions and even trillions of times the mass of the Sun - out there spinning in the Darkness ......
As a youngster in the UK I can well remember people using the phrase " like the black hole of Calcutta " and am sure it came from British India well before Einstein and not to do with the universe at that stage .
When we know we have some answers for space origins it always comes back and says no you have not and that's seriously mind blowing how the human mind can comprehend such things and continuing discover answers.
It seems that we can consider black holes as actual edges of a hyper-dimensional universe. Furthermore, the collapse of electromagnetism suggests an underlying relationship between this force and spacetime. This would also imply that transiting the event horizon transforms matter into this structure which preserves mass by the curvature of spacetime. How might the formation or decay rate of neutrons affect the expansion of the universe?
The origin of all things combining is static electricity, dust ball, asteroid, moon, planet, sun, black hole no matter how big or little it all is relative and needs Energy. E=G(infinity)
My mom says i have one between my ears. Whatever information goes in, it is gone forever. And whenever she says that, I say "Talk to the Schwarzschild" and i gaze out through my event horizon.
Could black nodes in the cosmic microwave background radiation of the big bang be the initial source of black holes exist today? Because it is estimated that the center of black hole contains singularity totally similar to the beginning of big bang. No explosion is homogenously fluid. There should be gaps, corridors, blobs. So black hole is connected to big bang where there is no time also no space, extension of past singularity.
What do we multiply critical black hole mass × black hole critical temperature to then Einstein's c^2 is relative to Boltzmann and sum final entropy of a black hole? ⚫
You would measure the strenght of the electrical attraction or repelation to an object of a known charge, i.e. you do it the same way as you measure the strenght of any other charge.
@ After my comment I looked it up and found that black holes are very close to neutral charge and there is a problem of measuring the charge because attraction of gravity would be confused with electrical attraction.
If Einstein had known about Neutron Stars he would have Concluded his Equation was indeed Correct. His Equation would have been loosely S = MEV 10*64 GW = 0.1 (Singularity = Mega Electron Volts 10 to the Power 64 Gravity Well 0.1) The Smallest Black Hole physically possible. Yet the Electron had not yet been defined.
What tou call a BH is just the union of all the things that make the system in which it is, such things could be stars, galaxies, galaxies clusters etc.
@@jerrybrown6169 Let me put it this way : I say what Halton Arp told the world before he passed away that quasars relate by pairs. i say that not only quasars but every thing in all systems relate by pairs and that all pairs part of their electromagnetic charge meets at the center; such charge gathering is what you guys call BH. Same thing is found in dna up to Laniakea to what i have seen.
Angular momentum is retained when stars collapse into black holes. Black holes are completely described by only three properties: mass, charge, and angular momentum.
But those “peticular” condition should be relative to the quantity of these gaint blackholes … how many of these blackholes di we know about ? Is it comparable to the commonality of these conditions?
Maybe there is no singularity. "Inside" a Black Hole, meaning inside the event horizon, time and space reverse their roles. Isn't it? Because everything in the black hole is in the future and past at the same time, and everywhere and nowhere at the same time too, nothing goes to a specific point.
I just found out that every galaxy ( including our) have a black hole in their center. Always thought black holes are scattered around universe just like galaxies.
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I'm no mathematician I'm no physicist But my mind says infinity is infinity and the fact that black holes can have different masses means there is no singularity in a black hole or all that mass can be attributed to actual mass orbiting a singularity. If the later is true then it will vanish once there's no matter left.
Infinity. Okay. See, there are different kinds of infinity. There's "countable infinity," which is like counting all the integers (1, 2, 3, Blah Blah Blah). Then there's "uncountable infinity," which includes all the real numbers between 0 and 1. You think you can list them? Nope. You’ll need more lists than you can count with your infinity, bub. Georg Cantor showed that these infinities aren’t equal. Countable infinity is like a row of stadium seats, while uncountable infinity is like trying to list every shade of green in the universe. Both are infinite, but the second one will make your brain explode faster. So when you say "infinity is infinity," that's like saying "all pizza is the same." Is it thin crust? Deep dish? Pineapple-topped abomination? Context matters, bromeo. A singularity in mathematics is where equations lose their shit. In black holes, it’s where the gravitational field becomes so intense that spacetime curves to mathematical infinity. I wouldn't jump into that cosmic blender, but I won't stop you from leaping. See, What you miss is the distinction between mathematical infinity and physical infinity. The singularity isn’t “infinity” in the simple sense; it’s a theoretical breakdown of our understanding. Your assumption that "mass orbiting the singularity could explain it all" skips over the fact that black holes are not simply celestial doughnuts with something fun inside(;P). Stephen Mother Fucking Hawking. His radiation idea says black holes slowly evaporate over time due to quantum effects near the event horizon. Quantum mechanics allows for the creation of particle-antiparticle pairs, where one escapes, robbing the black hole of energy. This isn't an infinite meal. black holes eventually run out of snack time like your younger brother who's somehow larger than you. You're kinda right, but it’s not about the absence of mass. it's about radiation bleeding energy from spacetime itself. If Physics was a baddie she'd be Laughing at your Local Realism. The Holographic Principle is the cosmic version of saying, "Everything you thought was 3D is just a prank, bro." The principle suggests that all the information about the stuff in a black hole isn't inside it but rather encoded on its event horizon. Like a DVD containing a whole movie, the black hole's surface area contains all its hecka gnasty secrets. Information isn’t lost, even when the black hole evaporates. it’s just smeared across spacetime like cosmic butter. Fucking spread it, baby. You thought black holes are giant, munchy physics mysteries whose inner workings are obvious. That's Cute. Thing is, black holes embody the strangest principles of quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and general relativity. The singularity is not "mass orbiting something," but a point (or region) where spacetime curvature becomes mathematically infinite and our equations just give us the finger. Infinity is not just a big number. It’s different sizes of "endlessness," and when we talk about physical infinities, they’re often shorthand for "the math broke." Black holes are unique in that they encompass many forms of infinity, Your brain, like most of ours, struggles with that because human logic isn’t built for higher dimensional thinking(If that's even a thing).
The spacetime vacuum would expand without change a constant two frame of intertia The 5d space vacuum entanglement locality and super position time linear, non linear the light speed constant lies a fractal value in symmetry breaking the Higgs density
Is it always necessary to force observations to bb theory. So we have to know when it all started because our lives are also short. And we don't know anything about that either?
The quantum state of two interacting wave functions prefers a red shift state in probability Hubble tension and super position 1. Redshift and Blueshift in Quantum Systems Redshift and Blueshift Basics: • Redshift occurs when light or electromagnetic waves increase in wavelength (lower frequency and energy), typically caused by: • Cosmic expansion (e.g., Hubble’s Law: v = H_0 d). • Gravitational fields (gravitational redshift, z = \Delta\Phi / c^2). • Relative motion (Doppler redshift: z = \sqrt{\frac{1 + v/c}{1 - v/c}} - 1). • Blueshift is the opposite phenomenon, where wavelengths decrease (higher frequency and energy) due to: • Approaching motion. • Compression effects in gravitational fields. Quantum Implications: The energy shift E = h f implies that quantum systems experiencing redshift/blueshift have modified transition probabilities, coherence times, and entanglement behavior. Applications in Quantum Optics: • Entangled Photons: Shifts in wavelength can alter the phase matching conditions for entanglement in nonlinear crystals. • Quantum Information: The frequency shift affects the fidelity of quantum communication, especially in satellite-based quantum networks where relativistic effects are non-negligible. 2. Quantum Eraser Experiment Concept: The quantum eraser experiments demonstrate how which-path information can be “erased,” restoring interference patterns in a double-slit experiment. It highlights the interplay between measurement, causality, and quantum coherence. Key Features: • When “which-path” information of photons is known, interference patterns disappear. • If the information is erased (even retroactively), interference is restored, suggesting that quantum systems retain coherence until observation forces decoherence. 3. Integration of Redshift/Blueshift with Quantum Eraser Mechanisms for Implementation: 1. Frequency Shift in Quantum Eraser: • Redshift or blueshift can act as a marker for which-path information in a modified quantum eraser setup. For example, photons experiencing gravitational redshift/blueshift due to a massive object might encode path information. • Erasure involves compensating for the frequency shift using adaptive optics or time-frequency analysis to restore indistinguishability. 2. Temporal and Causal Considerations: • The delayed-choice quantum eraser experiment can be expanded by introducing gravitational or Doppler effects. The frequency-shifted photon could still participate in interference restoration when “erased,” probing the boundary between quantum mechanics and general relativity. 3. Quantum Communication under Redshift: • In quantum communication systems, redshifted/blueshifted photons traveling through cosmological distances or under gravitational effects can still form part of entangled states if frequency compensation (e.g., through local oscillators) is applied. • Applying quantum eraser principles can help preserve coherence despite redshifted information loss. 4. Experimental Cross-References Astrophysical Observations: • Gravitational Waves and Light: Quantum states of light experiencing Doppler or gravitational redshift could be analyzed for coherence loss and restored using quantum eraser techniques. • Cosmology: The Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) photons undergo redshift due to cosmic expansion. A quantum eraser framework might explore whether primordial quantum states retain coherence. Laboratory Tests: • Simulating Gravitational Shifts: Artificially applying frequency shifts using acousto-optic modulators in entangled photon systems can emulate gravitational redshift/blueshift effects for controlled erasure experiments. • High-Energy Quantum Effects: Redshifted gamma photons in heavy-ion collisions or particle accelerators could reveal quantum coherence signatures under extreme conditions. 5. Theoretical Implications Quantum Gravity: • Redshift/blueshift integration into quantum experiments may offer insights into how quantum coherence survives or collapses in curved spacetime. • The reconciliation of quantum mechanics and general relativity might depend on understanding how information encoded in energy shifts propagates across spacetime. Entropy and Information: • Erasing redshifted/blueshifted path information could correspond to reducing system entropy, aligning with the second law of thermodynamics in a quantum context. 6. Summary of Cross-References Phenomenon Role in Quantum Eraser Implications Redshift (Cosmic/Grav.) Marks path info (e.g., time delay) Tests coherence under relativistic conditions. Blueshift (Doppler) Encodes approach velocity Studies quantum coherence restoration mechanisms. Frequency-Shift Erasure Erases frequency-based path info Restores interference in shifted quantum systems. Quantum Communication Redshift compensations preserve entanglement Maintains quantum fidelity over large distances.
What if the super massive black holes have always been there? Is that even possible? It would immediately answer the time issue. It twists my brain around thinking about it. I admit I don't know how to do higher level mathematical proofs or solve Einsteins' equations. I love math but the furthest I ever got was integrals, or Calc 2. Had to take it twice actually.
Could nil space (a realm of absolutely nothing) contra eternal space (form and force sui generis) help to explain black hole phenomena itself first particular to the creation of universe, that is, first in a mediated, contingently-existing hyperspace realm (itself a realm arguably first existing between eternal space and nil space respectively)?
for the whole cavariant schtick to work, there cant be singularities, or there are very simple coordinate transformations that require infinite derivatives to be regularized in some way :P. so for example a euclidian coordinate system that removes singularieties in geometry, adds singularities in other quantities substituted for geometry, and the substritution of the geometry is not a diffeomorphism it is a transformation that is not technically smooth everywhere. and so it is all lost, he physics must change.
Magnetic 🧲 forces at play, blackholes seem to have opposite poles acting in unison or higher form of duality. If we sped up time it would fizzle out 🤔 🧚♂️ 🔌
Im so confused... If they thought massive stars former super massive black holes thats ridiculous.... I always thought well gravity pulls strongest at the center of the galaxy so all that matters gets funneled and by just volume of matter it has to form a black hole... No way a star would be that big... If the black hole is that big the start would be sooo many times bigger... Now they are saying well yea that's probably right
We were brought to the city of Egypt by the goddesses of love, peace, and kindness to evolve in the deserts with soft sand, mud houses, and the bright sun. We were brought to Earth by the goddesses. To evolve, we must all become one, like members of each other's cells. We are like pure babies in the arms and breasts of our mothers. We are members of each other's souls. We are all gods.
Could the Big Bang have come from one of these overly-massive black holes? Far beyond super-massive? And then it leaves a bunch of smaller ones across the universe.
1. Electron Decay Chain and Inductive Properties While electrons are considered stable particles in standard physics, decay-like phenomena can emerge in exotic conditions (e.g., near black holes or in high-energy interactions). The inductive property of electromagnetism suggests that changes in electric or magnetic fields induce changes in the other, as described by Maxwell’s equations. For electrons: • Spin Precession: Electrons in a magnetic field exhibit Larmor precession, allowing a dynamic phase relationship with the external field. • Inductive Coupling: As electrons interact with photons, they can enter higher energy states, effectively “decaying” into wave-like representations (superposition of energy eigenstates). 2. Phase-Angling Electrons “Out of Time” Phase angles represent shifts in the wavefunction of a particle. In relativistic quantum mechanics: \psi(x,t) = e^{-i(Et - \vec{p} \cdot \vec{x})/\hbar} • A change in the electron’s phase corresponds to shifts in its observed position, momentum, and even temporal evolution. • At high velocities or under intense electromagnetic fields, the relative phase can shift the electron’s effective time coordinate due to time dilation and relativistic quantum tunneling. These effects manifest strongly near the speed of light (v \approx c). Superposition and Decoherence: In quantum mechanics, electrons in a superposed state can occupy multiple phase angles. When entangled with another particle (like a photon), the phase relationship extends across space, seemingly “angling” the electron out of traditional temporal measurements. 3. Electron-Photon Duality Electron-photon duality refers to wave-particle duality for both electrons and photons: • Permittivity of Space ( \varepsilon_0 ): The medium’s ability to permit electric fields affects the electromagnetic waves. Electrons, through their electromagnetic field, modulate space’s permittivity locally. This modulation can: • Shift wavefunctions to create measurable phase offsets. • Amplify quantum states via constructive interference. • 100% Amplification in Superposition: Quantum states can constructively interfere, yielding amplified probabilities for specific configurations. An electron in such a state is more likely to “phase out” momentarily as its probability distribution spreads beyond conventional space-time descriptions. 4. Quantum Entanglement and Temporal Effects Quantum entanglement extends the phase correlation of an electron-photon system. In particular: • Entanglement in Superposition: When an electron-photon pair is entangled, their shared wavefunction spans multiple states simultaneously. Manipulating the photon’s phase affects the electron instantaneously, appearing to “phase it out of time.” • Nonlocality: These correlations defy classical limits, and through Bell’s inequality, we know that such entangled systems operate outside traditional spacetime bounds. For example: • Phase Manipulation: A phase change in the photon’s wavefunction ( \Delta \phi ) causes a corresponding adjustment in the electron’s state, independent of the distance between them. 5. Mathematical Proof of Phase Offset To model this, consider the Dirac Equation for an electron interacting with an electromagnetic field: (i\hbar \gamma^\mu \partial_\mu - e A_\mu - m c) \psi = 0 Here: • A_\mu : The vector potential of the electromagnetic field. • \psi : The wavefunction of the electron. Under the influence of a time-varying potential, A_\mu(t) , the electron’s wavefunction acquires a phase shift: \psi{\prime} = \psi \cdot e^{i\theta}, \quad \text{where } \theta = \int e A_\mu \, dx^\mu This phase shift adjusts the electron’s energy-momentum relationship, effectively altering its interaction with spacetime. 6. Superfluid Vacuum and Permittivity of Space Using superfluid-like models of vacuum, such as noble gas superfluids, the electron’s interaction with space becomes non-linear. In such conditions: • The permittivity ( \varepsilon_0 ) dynamically adjusts, amplifying quantum effects. • Superfluid Behavior: Enables near-lossless transport of energy and momentum, ensuring sustained phase coherence even at macroscopic scales. Summary of Key Concepts 1. Phase-Angling Electrons “Out of Time”: • Achieved through phase shifts in their wavefunction, modulated by electromagnetic fields or relativistic effects. 2. Electron-Photon Duality: • Amplifies the probability of temporal displacement via superposition and entanglement. 3. Permittivity of Space: • Modulated by the electron’s field and amplified in superfluid-like conditions, enhancing wave-particle dynamics. 4. Entanglement’s Role: • Correlates phase and time evolution across spacelike separations, effectively removing the electron from localized time.
Pourquoi un scénario aussi compliqué et peu probable. Les trous noirs supermassifs se forment très facilement dans l'univers jeune et les galaxies se forment autour tout simplement.
electron photon duality free energy in momentum the electron mev time dilation .7c light speed is symmetry breaking time dilation offset phase angle .001 degree
Fortunately there is no Singularity, since everything inside an event horizon is 'frozen' in time. Nothing happens there since the formation of the event horizon. When the event horizon fomed it was still all very compressed matter. And thats where everything just froze up.
One could say that thinking about black holes is thinking as deeply as physically possible. Careful you might get lost if you go too far and even if you find the answers how are you going to tell anyone..lol
Priya Natarajan is a brillinat and wonderful woman.
What are the chances that JWST would come online during the time that Astrophysicist Priya Natarajan would be proposing her hypothesis of how supermassive black holes could form so quickly in the early universe, ~400,000 years after the big bang? It is one of those serendipitous moments in the history of science. Thank you so much for presenting such extraordinary content.
Einstein was more than a brilliant scientist. He was a man that was truly devoted to truth, even if it meant saying he was wrong.
We could use more great men like that today.
Always have, can, will need great/self-critical thinkers: more might even save our species; fewer doom 😢 us.
Yes
But he also shamelessly plagiarized Lorentz and Poincare in his Special Relativity.. Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies
Think he truly believe Space Bends ?
We he know more than RFK, Jr.?
@@robertspies4695 Haha.
She is so brilliant and explains things so simply and eloquently. Nice video, love the animations too
hello fellow nerd!
echohello ello fellow ellow nerd ;)
I'm telling my mom!
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Greetings Serpents
I'm a nerd too, hello!
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Also, Steven Wright:
“I was in a job interview and I opened a book and started reading. The guy said, ‘What the hell are you doing?’
Then I said to the guy, ‘Let me ask you a question: If you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?’
He said, ‘I don’t know.’
I said, ‘Forget it. I don’t want to work for you.’”
Also, Steven Wright:
I went to a fancy French restaurant called "Deja Vu." The headwaiter said, "Don't I know you?"
I like this style. Having 7 panelists, and trying to ask them all questions and then they want to jump in while someone else is talking is chaotic. And Brian Green does not try to show off his knowledge, and he asks the correct question for the audience although he knows more about the topic.
I'm glad someone else feels this way. This style of interview feels more natural and able to go deeper into ideas
Super exciting topic 🤩 Thanks professor Brian Greene
I see a definite Nobel Prize in the future of Priya and her collaborators! Amazing Stuff (to paraphrase Carl Sagan)!
PLEASE TELL US THE DATES OF WHEN THESE TALKS HAPPENED. this was from June 2024. INCLUDE IN DISCRIPTION
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@@redrobotdubz Also where it was recorded. Can we get tickets to these things?
Inside voice, please.
@@robertpaterson5477new York, WSF happens every year there. Also yeah, you can get tickets.
@@SolaceEasy AARAGGAGAGARHHAHAHZZ
@World Science Festival Thank you World Science Festival!🎵🕊🌈
@@Uradumbxss Does the photons inside the spherical hole, moves faster than the speed of light?
@@markoszouganelis5755bro I’m gonna be honest I was a few beers deep and waffled
Exceptional scientist: Dr. Natrajan ❤Brilliant 🎉conversation history woven into discovery !!! Wondering, whether black holes are sources multiple universes ??
These WSF videos are always such a pleasure to watch.
HUGE fan of Dr. Natarajan
Please consider putting her name in the title next time
She's a nice lady.
@@XenomorphTerrorshe’s a smart lady too
WOW ! Truth is STRANGER than Fiction ! .... Not only Black Holes are real but Super-Massive Black Holes billions and even trillions of times the mass of the Sun - out there spinning in the Darkness ......
So delighted to see in-person conversation at WSF. The online discussions lacked the feel.
Whoop whoop thanks Brian this looks awesome 😁👍
Your content is amazing. Thank you as always.
I love how articulate and brilliant this lady is, i could listen to her talk about her work all day
As a youngster in the UK I can well remember people using the phrase " like the black hole of Calcutta " and am sure it came from British India well before Einstein and not to do with the universe at that stage .
More on the relationship between Black Holes and Dark Matter, please. Not only current interactions / lack thereof, but from deep time also.
YES! The indian accent is subtle! 🕳️⭐
A very informative session about OBG (Overmassive Black Holes). Good to know about Black Hole Seeding and their types.
Epic, this brings complex and abstract science to regular people like me in a logical manner, bravo!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Thank you for the new video. As always, great guest.
Always great guests. She's wonderful.
Priya is an incredibly informed & well versed technician 💯 ..
When we know we have some answers for space origins it always comes back and says no you have not and that's seriously mind blowing how the human mind can comprehend such things and continuing discover answers.
She's brilliant!
Thanks for this program.
Great work
Phenomenal!!!!💫💫💫
Steves gonna love this
One of the best informative interviews...👏👏👏💯💯💯🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶
Intriguing even for a non nerd like me. Brilliant discussion
A Very interesting Video 👍🏻
Looks like it's going to be a avery enlightening video.
I might as well say it every time, but the quality of your guests is impressive. Thank you all organizers, Brian Greene and Priya Natarajan.
It seems that we can consider black holes as actual edges of a hyper-dimensional universe. Furthermore, the collapse of electromagnetism suggests an underlying relationship between this force and spacetime. This would also imply that transiting the event horizon transforms matter into this structure which preserves mass by the curvature of spacetime.
How might the formation or decay rate of neutrons affect the expansion of the universe?
She is such an impressive person!
The origin of all things combining is static electricity, dust ball, asteroid, moon, planet, sun, black hole no matter how big or little it all is relative and needs Energy. E=G(infinity)
The guy on the couch is a genius.
My mom says i have one between my ears. Whatever information goes in, it is gone forever. And whenever she says that, I say "Talk to the Schwarzschild" and i gaze out through my event horizon.
Could black nodes in the cosmic microwave background radiation of the big bang be the initial source of black holes exist today? Because it is estimated that the center of black hole contains singularity totally similar to the beginning of big bang. No explosion is homogenously fluid. There should be gaps, corridors, blobs. So black hole is connected to big bang where there is no time also no space, extension of past singularity.
Makes sense to me and that has also been predicted. I don’t thing we can know however. Invigorating thoughts through. Thanks
Excellent!!!
Good stuff.
Amazing ❤❤
What do we multiply critical black hole mass × black hole critical temperature to then Einstein's c^2 is relative to Boltzmann and sum final entropy of a black hole? ⚫
I have a question ❓ How was the light able to escape the event horizon while taking that doughnut photo of that black hole.
Wait
Did Brian Green say charge of a black hole?
How can we measure this?
You would measure the strenght of the electrical attraction or repelation to an object of a known charge, i.e. you do it the same way as you measure the strenght of any other charge.
@
After my comment I looked it up and found that black holes are very close to neutral charge and there is a problem of measuring the charge because attraction of gravity would be confused with electrical attraction.
If nothing escapes from a black hole then how do we feel the gravity of the mass that has passed the event horizon?
" THE PAIN IS IN THE MIND " ; A BITTER TRUTH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM SIR OPENHEIMER 16:18
If Einstein had known about Neutron Stars he would have Concluded his Equation was indeed Correct. His Equation would have been loosely S = MEV 10*64 GW = 0.1
(Singularity = Mega Electron Volts 10 to the Power 64 Gravity Well 0.1) The Smallest Black Hole physically possible.
Yet the Electron had not yet been defined.
What tou call a BH is just the union of all the things that make the system in which it is, such things could be stars, galaxies, galaxies clusters etc.
Everything could be described as "union of all the things that make the system in which it is". This is not explanatory.
@@jerrybrown6169 Let me put it this way : I say what Halton Arp told the world before he passed away that quasars relate by pairs. i say that not only quasars but every thing in all systems relate by pairs and that all pairs part of their electromagnetic charge meets at the center; such charge gathering is what you guys call BH. Same thing is found in dna up to Laniakea to what i have seen.
Please talk more about angular momentum of black holes. Such momentum must translate to energy. Would this be black energy?
Angular momentum is retained when stars collapse into black holes. Black holes are completely described by only three properties: mass, charge, and angular momentum.
But those “peticular” condition should be relative to the quantity of these gaint blackholes … how many of these blackholes di we know about ? Is it comparable to the commonality of these conditions?
Maybe there is no singularity.
"Inside" a Black Hole, meaning inside the event horizon, time and space reverse their roles. Isn't it? Because everything in the black hole is in the future and past at the same time, and everywhere and nowhere at the same time too, nothing goes to a specific point.
I just found out that every galaxy ( including our) have a black hole in their center. Always thought black holes are scattered around universe just like galaxies.
i fully understand Einsteins position when the numbers work out that the Earth would be the size of a penny if a Black hole.
Black holes may be consider than as a black plasma ?
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I'm no mathematician
I'm no physicist
But my mind says infinity is infinity and the fact that black holes can have different masses means there is no singularity in a black hole or all that mass can be attributed to actual mass orbiting a singularity.
If the later is true then it will vanish once there's no matter left.
Infinity. Okay. See, there are different kinds of infinity. There's "countable infinity," which is like counting all the integers (1, 2, 3, Blah Blah Blah). Then there's "uncountable infinity," which includes all the real numbers between 0 and 1. You think you can list them? Nope. You’ll need more lists than you can count with your infinity, bub. Georg Cantor showed that these infinities aren’t equal. Countable infinity is like a row of stadium seats, while uncountable infinity is like trying to list every shade of green in the universe. Both are infinite, but the second one will make your brain explode faster. So when you say "infinity is infinity," that's like saying "all pizza is the same." Is it thin crust? Deep dish? Pineapple-topped abomination? Context matters, bromeo. A singularity in mathematics is where equations lose their shit. In black holes, it’s where the gravitational field becomes so intense that spacetime curves to mathematical infinity. I wouldn't jump into that cosmic blender, but I won't stop you from leaping. See, What you miss is the distinction between mathematical infinity and physical infinity. The singularity isn’t “infinity” in the simple sense; it’s a theoretical breakdown of our understanding. Your assumption that "mass orbiting the singularity could explain it all" skips over the fact that black holes are not simply celestial doughnuts with something fun inside(;P). Stephen Mother Fucking Hawking. His radiation idea says black holes slowly evaporate over time due to quantum effects near the event horizon. Quantum mechanics allows for the creation of particle-antiparticle pairs, where one escapes, robbing the black hole of energy. This isn't an infinite meal. black holes eventually run out of snack time like your younger brother who's somehow larger than you. You're kinda right, but it’s not about the absence of mass. it's about radiation bleeding energy from spacetime itself. If Physics was a baddie she'd be Laughing at your Local Realism. The Holographic Principle is the cosmic version of saying, "Everything you thought was 3D is just a prank, bro." The principle suggests that all the information about the stuff in a black hole isn't inside it but rather encoded on its event horizon. Like a DVD containing a whole movie, the black hole's surface area contains all its hecka gnasty secrets. Information isn’t lost, even when the black hole evaporates. it’s just smeared across spacetime like cosmic butter. Fucking spread it, baby. You thought black holes are giant, munchy physics mysteries whose inner workings are obvious. That's Cute. Thing is, black holes embody the strangest principles of quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and general relativity. The singularity is not "mass orbiting something," but a point (or region) where spacetime curvature becomes mathematically infinite and our equations just give us the finger. Infinity is not just a big number. It’s different sizes of "endlessness," and when we talk about physical infinities, they’re often shorthand for "the math broke." Black holes are unique in that they encompass many forms of infinity, Your brain, like most of ours, struggles with that because human logic isn’t built for higher dimensional thinking(If that's even a thing).
The universe is covered by the biggest black hole umbrella, and we are trapped in it and under it. 010, from 0 we come to 0 we go.
The spacetime vacuum would expand without change a constant two frame of intertia
The 5d space vacuum entanglement locality and super position time linear, non linear the light speed constant lies a fractal value in symmetry breaking the Higgs density
Is it always necessary to force observations to bb theory. So we have to know when it all started because our lives are also short. And we don't know anything about that either?
The quantum state of two interacting wave functions prefers a red shift state in probability Hubble tension and super position
1. Redshift and Blueshift in Quantum Systems
Redshift and Blueshift Basics:
• Redshift occurs when light or electromagnetic waves increase in wavelength (lower frequency and energy), typically caused by:
• Cosmic expansion (e.g., Hubble’s Law: v = H_0 d).
• Gravitational fields (gravitational redshift, z = \Delta\Phi / c^2).
• Relative motion (Doppler redshift: z = \sqrt{\frac{1 + v/c}{1 - v/c}} - 1).
• Blueshift is the opposite phenomenon, where wavelengths decrease (higher frequency and energy) due to:
• Approaching motion.
• Compression effects in gravitational fields.
Quantum Implications:
The energy shift E = h f implies that quantum systems experiencing redshift/blueshift have modified transition probabilities, coherence times, and entanglement behavior.
Applications in Quantum Optics:
• Entangled Photons: Shifts in wavelength can alter the phase matching conditions for entanglement in nonlinear crystals.
• Quantum Information: The frequency shift affects the fidelity of quantum communication, especially in satellite-based quantum networks where relativistic effects are non-negligible.
2. Quantum Eraser Experiment
Concept:
The quantum eraser experiments demonstrate how which-path information can be “erased,” restoring interference patterns in a double-slit experiment. It highlights the interplay between measurement, causality, and quantum coherence.
Key Features:
• When “which-path” information of photons is known, interference patterns disappear.
• If the information is erased (even retroactively), interference is restored, suggesting that quantum systems retain coherence until observation forces decoherence.
3. Integration of Redshift/Blueshift with Quantum Eraser
Mechanisms for Implementation:
1. Frequency Shift in Quantum Eraser:
• Redshift or blueshift can act as a marker for which-path information in a modified quantum eraser setup. For example, photons experiencing gravitational redshift/blueshift due to a massive object might encode path information.
• Erasure involves compensating for the frequency shift using adaptive optics or time-frequency analysis to restore indistinguishability.
2. Temporal and Causal Considerations:
• The delayed-choice quantum eraser experiment can be expanded by introducing gravitational or Doppler effects. The frequency-shifted photon could still participate in interference restoration when “erased,” probing the boundary between quantum mechanics and general relativity.
3. Quantum Communication under Redshift:
• In quantum communication systems, redshifted/blueshifted photons traveling through cosmological distances or under gravitational effects can still form part of entangled states if frequency compensation (e.g., through local oscillators) is applied.
• Applying quantum eraser principles can help preserve coherence despite redshifted information loss.
4. Experimental Cross-References
Astrophysical Observations:
• Gravitational Waves and Light:
Quantum states of light experiencing Doppler or gravitational redshift could be analyzed for coherence loss and restored using quantum eraser techniques.
• Cosmology:
The Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) photons undergo redshift due to cosmic expansion. A quantum eraser framework might explore whether primordial quantum states retain coherence.
Laboratory Tests:
• Simulating Gravitational Shifts:
Artificially applying frequency shifts using acousto-optic modulators in entangled photon systems can emulate gravitational redshift/blueshift effects for controlled erasure experiments.
• High-Energy Quantum Effects:
Redshifted gamma photons in heavy-ion collisions or particle accelerators could reveal quantum coherence signatures under extreme conditions.
5. Theoretical Implications
Quantum Gravity:
• Redshift/blueshift integration into quantum experiments may offer insights into how quantum coherence survives or collapses in curved spacetime.
• The reconciliation of quantum mechanics and general relativity might depend on understanding how information encoded in energy shifts propagates across spacetime.
Entropy and Information:
• Erasing redshifted/blueshifted path information could correspond to reducing system entropy, aligning with the second law of thermodynamics in a quantum context.
6. Summary of Cross-References
Phenomenon Role in Quantum Eraser Implications
Redshift (Cosmic/Grav.) Marks path info (e.g., time delay) Tests coherence under relativistic conditions.
Blueshift (Doppler) Encodes approach velocity Studies quantum coherence restoration mechanisms.
Frequency-Shift Erasure Erases frequency-based path info Restores interference in shifted quantum systems.
Quantum Communication Redshift compensations preserve entanglement Maintains quantum fidelity over large distances.
What if the super massive black holes have always been there? Is that even possible? It would immediately answer the time issue. It twists my brain around thinking about it. I admit I don't know how to do higher level mathematical proofs or solve Einsteins' equations. I love math but the furthest I ever got was integrals, or Calc 2. Had to take it twice actually.
Priya is such a rad women inspirational
Could nil space (a realm of absolutely nothing) contra eternal space (form and force sui generis) help to explain black hole phenomena itself first particular to the creation of universe, that is, first in a mediated, contingently-existing hyperspace realm (itself a realm arguably first existing between eternal space and nil space respectively)?
similar topics, over over over over and over.
Shouldn’t you mention John Mitchell who proposed a star with an escape velocity greater than the speed of light (circa 1770). Using Newtonian gravity.
for the whole cavariant schtick to work, there cant be singularities, or there are very simple coordinate transformations that require infinite derivatives to be regularized in some way :P. so for example a euclidian coordinate system that removes singularieties in geometry, adds singularities in other quantities substituted for geometry, and the substritution of the geometry is not a diffeomorphism it is a transformation that is not technically smooth everywhere. and so it is all lost, he physics must change.
The name comes from a prison, the solution from the trenches. Like the billboard says, hell is real. Funny how productive it is.
ok, and now it ties into the show about nothing? C'mon.
And, the new findings are fascinating
amazing
SCIENCE!
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Albino u miss me
She definitely deserves a Nobel Prize for this!
I wonder if physics breaks down at a black hole because they are actually contact points where the membranes are connected to one another.
Im down with OBG Yeah you know me
Magnetic 🧲 forces at play, blackholes seem to have opposite poles acting in unison or higher form of duality. If we sped up time it would fizzle out 🤔 🧚♂️ 🔌
Im so confused... If they thought massive stars former super massive black holes thats ridiculous.... I always thought well gravity pulls strongest at the center of the galaxy so all that matters gets funneled and by just volume of matter it has to form a black hole... No way a star would be that big... If the black hole is that big the start would be sooo many times bigger... Now they are saying well yea that's probably right
I'm betting the Nobel folks will be talking to her in the future.
We were brought to the city of Egypt by the goddesses of love, peace, and kindness to evolve in the deserts with soft sand, mud houses, and the bright sun. We were brought to Earth by the goddesses. To evolve, we must all become one, like members of each other's cells. We are like pure babies in the arms and breasts of our mothers. We are members of each other's souls. We are all gods.
Could the Big Bang have come from one of these overly-massive black holes? Far beyond super-massive? And then it leaves a bunch of smaller ones across the universe.
9:51 I never thought of the singularity being wrong terminology. 🤔
... 'bout time ... remember when science was a selfcorrecting process ?
1. Electron Decay Chain and Inductive Properties
While electrons are considered stable particles in standard physics, decay-like phenomena can emerge in exotic conditions (e.g., near black holes or in high-energy interactions). The inductive property of electromagnetism suggests that changes in electric or magnetic fields induce changes in the other, as described by Maxwell’s equations. For electrons:
• Spin Precession: Electrons in a magnetic field exhibit Larmor precession, allowing a dynamic phase relationship with the external field.
• Inductive Coupling: As electrons interact with photons, they can enter higher energy states, effectively “decaying” into wave-like representations (superposition of energy eigenstates).
2. Phase-Angling Electrons “Out of Time”
Phase angles represent shifts in the wavefunction of a particle. In relativistic quantum mechanics:
\psi(x,t) = e^{-i(Et - \vec{p} \cdot \vec{x})/\hbar}
• A change in the electron’s phase corresponds to shifts in its observed position, momentum, and even temporal evolution.
• At high velocities or under intense electromagnetic fields, the relative phase can shift the electron’s effective time coordinate due to time dilation and relativistic quantum tunneling. These effects manifest strongly near the speed of light (v \approx c).
Superposition and Decoherence: In quantum mechanics, electrons in a superposed state can occupy multiple phase angles. When entangled with another particle (like a photon), the phase relationship extends across space, seemingly “angling” the electron out of traditional temporal measurements.
3. Electron-Photon Duality
Electron-photon duality refers to wave-particle duality for both electrons and photons:
• Permittivity of Space ( \varepsilon_0 ): The medium’s ability to permit electric fields affects the electromagnetic waves. Electrons, through their electromagnetic field, modulate space’s permittivity locally. This modulation can:
• Shift wavefunctions to create measurable phase offsets.
• Amplify quantum states via constructive interference.
• 100% Amplification in Superposition: Quantum states can constructively interfere, yielding amplified probabilities for specific configurations. An electron in such a state is more likely to “phase out” momentarily as its probability distribution spreads beyond conventional space-time descriptions.
4. Quantum Entanglement and Temporal Effects
Quantum entanglement extends the phase correlation of an electron-photon system. In particular:
• Entanglement in Superposition: When an electron-photon pair is entangled, their shared wavefunction spans multiple states simultaneously. Manipulating the photon’s phase affects the electron instantaneously, appearing to “phase it out of time.”
• Nonlocality: These correlations defy classical limits, and through Bell’s inequality, we know that such entangled systems operate outside traditional spacetime bounds.
For example:
• Phase Manipulation: A phase change in the photon’s wavefunction ( \Delta \phi ) causes a corresponding adjustment in the electron’s state, independent of the distance between them.
5. Mathematical Proof of Phase Offset
To model this, consider the Dirac Equation for an electron interacting with an electromagnetic field:
(i\hbar \gamma^\mu \partial_\mu - e A_\mu - m c) \psi = 0
Here:
• A_\mu : The vector potential of the electromagnetic field.
• \psi : The wavefunction of the electron.
Under the influence of a time-varying potential, A_\mu(t) , the electron’s wavefunction acquires a phase shift:
\psi{\prime} = \psi \cdot e^{i\theta}, \quad \text{where } \theta = \int e A_\mu \, dx^\mu
This phase shift adjusts the electron’s energy-momentum relationship, effectively altering its interaction with spacetime.
6. Superfluid Vacuum and Permittivity of Space
Using superfluid-like models of vacuum, such as noble gas superfluids, the electron’s interaction with space becomes non-linear. In such conditions:
• The permittivity ( \varepsilon_0 ) dynamically adjusts, amplifying quantum effects.
• Superfluid Behavior: Enables near-lossless transport of energy and momentum, ensuring sustained phase coherence even at macroscopic scales.
Summary of Key Concepts
1. Phase-Angling Electrons “Out of Time”:
• Achieved through phase shifts in their wavefunction, modulated by electromagnetic fields or relativistic effects.
2. Electron-Photon Duality:
• Amplifies the probability of temporal displacement via superposition and entanglement.
3. Permittivity of Space:
• Modulated by the electron’s field and amplified in superfluid-like conditions, enhancing wave-particle dynamics.
4. Entanglement’s Role:
• Correlates phase and time evolution across spacelike separations, effectively removing the electron from localized time.
Pourquoi un scénario aussi compliqué et peu probable. Les trous noirs supermassifs se forment très facilement dans l'univers jeune et les galaxies se forment autour tout simplement.
electron photon duality free energy in momentum the electron mev time dilation .7c light speed is symmetry breaking time dilation
offset phase angle .001 degree
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It sounds that all the heavy lifting was done by “my friend and collaborator akosh” 😉
BLACK HOLE defined = GRAVITY (-) LIGHT , STAR defined= GRAVITY(+) LIGHT
Including ze black holes:)
Fortunately there is no Singularity, since everything inside an event horizon is 'frozen' in time. Nothing happens there since the formation of the event horizon. When the event horizon fomed it was still all very compressed matter. And thats where everything just froze up.
An interesting speculation
One could say that thinking about black holes is thinking as deeply as physically possible. Careful you might get lost if you go too far and even if you find the answers how are you going to tell anyone..lol
I really wonder what these two think about DeGrasse Tyson
Until we actually physically find one, black hole is a terminology, not a 100% reality.
Does space expand inside a Black Hole?
needed
black hole full evaporation modes
super position
further integration data coming from the iss
I love the music at the end.. Where can I find the longer version?
Muse anyone?