Psychological Alchemy, Sacred Creativity, Carl Jung with Erick Godsey
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2023
- Autodidactic mythologist, psychology extraordinaire, and Myths That Make Us podcast host, Erick Godsey returns to the mind meld!
In this one, we discuss sacred creativity and the psychic sickness permeating the zeitgeist. We also riff on individuation and psychic alchemy ala Carl Jung, as well as the mysterious ever-present influence of the Hermes archetype.
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The most incredible conversation I think I’ve ever heard. I hope this reaches many people, especially the creatives who continue to doubt their work.
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💯 it’s the verbalization of exactly what I know but haven’t strung together in coherent language yet.
Be Novel , Be Authentic , Be Unique , Be Yourself , Your True Colours Are Beautiful ❤
Beautiful!
In an effort to combat the distrustful zeitgeist, I want to say hello to you two strangers. I’m really thankful I found your friendship here.
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I couldn't have found this discussion at a better time in my life 😂 I just started to listen to my spirit and now I have been able to create music and poetry after 22 years of spiritual sickness. I turned 33 yesterday and just started to see my truth that I have always known 2 months ago. Art is the highest form of communion 😊
I do shadow work over the last 3 years (without realizing it) by doing 100 paintings that started totally abstract, then I saw images and painted over the abstract, but figurative. Then I boxed all the paintings and a year later, I'm transforming each painting. It is like my painting style evolved during the year I did not paint, and now the paintings are "coming into focus". Their formerly subconscious meaning has now become clearer. For example: a painting representing an enemy, now illustrates a teacher. This is how I use alchemy and creativity to heal old trauma, transform my view of my self, my memories of my past and view of my reality. This is a fine meditation for me (painting).I enrich my soul!
Jung taught me the importance of creating my own myth to live by. But a myth based in reality is essential. I thank God every day for showing me my Hermetic and magickal path.
Thanks for being here and doing what you do, guys. 😎✌️✨
I’m with you. I’m a meditator artist writer astrologer spiritual person seeker mystic for 78 years and these fellows are totally amazing. When I was in my 20s and 30s and I was reading all these writers they talk about here and while I was living what in the cosmos has happened in the last 50 years that produced these two amazing human beings of such wisdom and brilliance. I bow to you for your courage to show up in this way. 🙏
Michael + Eric = ⚡
I’m a man on a spiritual journey. And a songwriter. I’ve given out the goosebumps before, but I haven’t played a gig in almost a decade. But then it came back. Played a gig a few weeks ago, and I’m playing again couple weeks from now. This whole conversation was awesome. Time to jump over that hump and share the bread. I have to. And I know I do. But I felt that malaise, that stuckness. Walking in molasses. When the music came back, it wasn’t about ego, it was different now. Daimon, genius.. I gotta listen to the whisper. Not only to contribute, but also bc if I don’t, I’m just a walking dead man, really. Thanks for this. Great channel, seriously. Just found it and I’ve been cracking out on it all night! Love and Gratitude, Jenzin.
Music has been the most healing thing un my life - both listening and composing and recording. Also, the most difficult struggle of my life...and that maybe made it so emotionally rewarding.
“Your words are not words lads, they’re fq’n bread !” Thank you for giving your gift, every time you & EG get together it’s fire!
listening for the 3rd time now and finding new gems 💎😃
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Same.
Oh man is this discussion my jam. All topics of great importance to me and central to my reflexions at the moment. Truly appreciate your work, both of you, thank you so much for all that you do. Been intending to join the Patreon but procrastinated on it but this convinced me to stop waiting, going for it right now!
I've heard you mention James Hillman in another vid and I'm currently diving into his work and finding so much nourishnment in the ideas he explored, don't know if this aligns with your plans for the channel but if you one day feel like diving into his ideas in a vid that would be a great gift to the world! There's almost no videos exploring his thought and the fascinating perspectives he covered in his life (or I couldn't find them if there are) and it's such a shame, I feel like in the age of "Creative Mythology" as Campbell called it, Hillman provided insights that are invaluable and that could help so much people in our quest for meaning.
Thank you again and keep up the amazing work, finding your channel has been a formidable source of inspiration and joy!
That comment about top 5 percent just activated something in my dna ❤
My god, that Victor Frankl example is sooo moving
Yessss! The the things you said about Mercury resonated so much for me! I would love if you turned this topic itself into a full episode!
I’m sure I’m a little biased because I’m a Virgo Sun Gemini rising with several 3rd house placements, so to me, Mercury has always felt like home. Transmutation has always come easy to me. Even my name being Symone which means “She Who Listens/Can Hear) ie; I can hear the energies, can communicate with the heavens.
I absolutely love your channel! Thank you for spreading your light🥰
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I'm Gemini rising with a Virgo Moon and Mercury in Aquarius, I totally feel this💕
I just can’t stop binge listening to the conversations between you two. So inspiring, every sentence. Thank you!❤
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We are all artists, we have bread to share, the commodity of human connection! Intentional creativity works.loved this talk! Thankyou
Artists almost get "beat" into this belief: they get laughed at, they're called narcissists, etc. Some, unfortunately, prepare in the traditional way (school) which is not a good idea. They acumulate debt and teachers and "mentors" who can't really guide them to true success
I am only half way through , and as an artist this is already so helpful...Thank you!!
Erik at about 48:45; I think we were placed here to experience DUALITY so that we grow and ultimately learn that LOVE is the answer. (Like the man giving away his last bit of bread.) The lessons are quite severe, depending on one's soul plan in a particular incarnation.
Obviously it was an amazing podcast throughout, but that outro was fucking great. Its so relieving to take in such great wisdom with a splash of humor to break the spell of taking ourselves too serious. Thank you for what you do, and looking forward to see your channel take off in the next year!! 🙏❤️
Thank you my friend! God willing! ✨🙏✨
Damn he is speaking to my soul ❤
Loved this conversation! Off to make bread!
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I remember the day “eternity” killed me lol😂
The timing for this is absolutely synchronistic for me- I'm currently reading a book by James Hillman called Healing Fiction, and he focuses heavily on Jung's personal myth. Very excited to dive into this talk, many thanks!🌿
I love Hillman, I actually haven’t heard of that one!
@@THIRDEYEDROPS it's fantastic so far, highly recommend if you want to expand more on the concept of personal story/mythos and healing through understanding how we construct our personal fiction/story through the lens of those archetypes/complexes.
Inspiring , inspiring!!!!!🙃🙏🙏❤
19:46 the process of complexification: the increasing and simultaneously differentiation and integration of parts working together as a functional whole.
26:40 Hermes is the process of complexification?
1:05:50 Follow your highest excitation to *the best of your abilities* with no insistence on the outcome, and interpret the results in a positive perspective. Insistence is resistance. Respond to the feedback loops wisely.
1:50:00 We're not thinking/talking about whether life is meaning or not but don't we have a feeling of meaning? It feeeels meaningful to do such and such?
One of the best podcast episodes I have seen in a long long time, thank you!
Thank you so much for this conversation and inspiration. I was very moved by the story Eric shared from the book "Man's search for Meaning" by Viktor E. Frankl.
Oh how I love to swim in these wonder waters. Thank you both for your magic.
Underrates channel. But not for long. I called it with Vivec, and I’m calling it with you as well. You’re going to blow up sometime. Appreciate the quality content.😊
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Wow! Consider my wonder pickle tickled !! Thank you.
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Ive been stuck on the “money:no money artist loop for a long time.” 😅
Dude... Hell yes. You guys are awesome together. Big love everyone!
wowww I was just listening to the last one with E.G. for the fourth time and now I see ANOTHER ONE!!! Diving it right now! Cannot wait to listen :) Thank you both
Love it! 🤝
This might be my favorite podcast of all time. Thank you so much for sharing your gifts 🙏🏼
I really needed this interview. Thank you thank you ❤
Thank you for the medicinal drip drop! ❤️
Also love what you mentioned about dreams and collective unconscious. First time I hear it the way you said it
Thank You for all that you are doing. This matters a lot!
Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏 this is speaking volumes to certain very important parts of me to which I’m yet to develop a relationship … great work!
This was great thank you !!!
Yasss. excellent. So grateful this conversation is shared here. Cheers.
This answered many things for me. Thank you so much.
Love the tease 🦁
Great conversation. I find all of this information very interesting. Keep them coming.
Bravo 😂 on the outro! To end such an elegant conversation with that kind of humor was brilliant ❤ I just joined the channel and this was the first video I watched. Tremendously inspiring! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it my friend!
YES, ART
Great conversation
Thank you for doing this creative endeavour and sharing it with the world 🌍
Winning keep up the Great Work on both sides of the spectrum
This explains Hermes Tres Magistus! 🎉
You are both speaking beautiful truth.
These are the same conundrums I've been facing on my 6-year spiritual journey.
I will never stop trying to create positive change; it does feel lonely at times.
I'm learning we are all telepathically speaking to one another.
We are one giant head: we need to trust one another.
Thank you for sharing your journey.
#keepgoing
32:31 Wow. What a great perspective. Respect and love from Istanbul.
Ready for some painting with this in the background!
Broth boys sound like a little something I’m working on 😊🎉❤
Alex Grey and TOOL are great examples of real modern day alchemists doing real alchemical art that matters today.
Let’s get this convo to a million views… so many mic drop moments 🙏🌎💚
40:45 Yes, you are making total sense. Please keep going.
Deeply inspirational for this 60 year old creative just emerging from meaningless malaise!
Love to hear it 🙏
Love the intro!
Wonderful! 💚
I just watched that video Eric!!!!!!!
Thats what brought me to this video!!!!!! 🎉😅
I like writing but'm not at a point to believe that it will make a big difference. The funny thing though is how this might challenge me. For example, when doing charity or working with students, I might notice them getting into the arts
Look at that epic snake tapestry behind Erick!
Ohh such a gem!!!
This podcast is gold . I almost stopped listening because I thought its just a big cycle that repeats with no answers. I gave it another chance and now im addicted thanks 🙄 and Eric is modern day Jesus !
Glad you enjoyed it!
YOOO Let’s go godseyyyy
alright alright alright fine
you got me with "keyboard mudras"
Very informative
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A lot of truths in this video - I have watched and researched Jung quite extensively, but never seen these points concerning arts articulated in such an accurate manner as this. When one gets deep enough into the process, the muse/anima will reveal itself and guide the way. However, it is easy to get into the "artist's/mystic's bubble" and see everything - and everyone - through these tinted lenses. I don't think everyone can be an artist, nor should they. In fact, I suspect that the majority of populace can find easier, alternative ways of healing and "finding themselves" than the deeply mystical and - franky, exceedingly challenging - introspective route like Jung did. I think it was Jung's own frame bias as well that led him to thinking this. When one talks about these subjects with passion and has felt the powerful nature of this path, it naturally attracts like-minded people... and then the bubble-mentality can easily take over. In essence, not everyone in the world has that artistic orientation, but it does not diminish said path's veracity for those that do possess an innate affinity towards it.
I will just add that the "success" part, as well, is not necessarily chiseled into stone - although I suppose what one defines as success, varies. For some it is the gravitation of audience towards them as they sense the authenticity of the art and the artist. For other, more reclusive artists, it could be the honing of the subjective accuracy into perfection, and the audience does not matter. I think the example of that photographer lady is a great example of this. For a long time I have been the same, disregarding the audience altogether, not bothering to reveal much of my arts for the world. This is actually what I have begun to examine with my new project... and subsequently, been posting more online. Even if wanting to remain in the unknown, there's always that annoying human need of wanting to be seen and heard. Perhaps that's the voice of the collective, or something else. Who knows.
Great conversation; could you link to the article you two were discussing at the beginning that set the scene for discussing our modern-day zeitgeist-god? Much love 🙏
I’m actually not sure what it is 🤦🏻♂️
Ok, cool. If he sends you the article, I'd like to read it too. I looked and could only find some unrelated paper with the same title from the early 1900's.@@THIRDEYEDROPS
Holy shit I am so enjoying this podcast. It is fascinating and I’m so glad to hear it and that you’re speaking about all the conspiracies about the lizard people and all this I’m so grateful because I just disagree with the theory but it doesn’t matter what I believe except I just resonate with what you’re saying and I’m so grateful thank you thank you thank you glasses
as I listen through something keeps looping in my mind, I just wanted to share this suggestion with you: check out BTS (South Korean band of 7 artists), especially WINGS era, Map Of The Soul, and also J-Hope from that group and his Mixtape and Solo Album... May sound "silly" to some, but if you get to see beyond some aspects...it is mythopoetic to the core, they vibe on jungian psychology and gnosticism, etc. and these Artists are mind-blowing... BTS, and these members J-Hope, RM and Agust D will take you on a f journey of Soul
Beautiful work, great people; this is next level 👌& here is one for both of you “ that’s some enlightened shit “ lol
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Also you talk about mental health and such... do you have any thoughts around D.I.D.?
Good shit
Thank you! Please don’t punch me Saitama-San! 🙇♂️
everything to do with humanity information... is Mercury. so all of our understanding comprehension interpretation conception which bind us as an individual or collective involve this archetype. either feeding impurity or alchemizing into purity.
Erick😭 Now I'm dying to see your natal chart🥺🙏😅
My wonder pickle was absolutely tickled
#BrothBoys let's go
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@@THIRDEYEDROPS btw I'm super jealous of your channel name. Love your stuff.
Hope someone answers me please.
Why does he keep mentioning goosebumps?? 17:08
I personally get them when I fell like I’m having a “spiritual” feeling.
Also my ears ring as well…idk what it means and never heard it mentioned by anyone else
Yeah he’s equating goose bumps with intuition, inspiration, etc
Thanks for getting back to me! I will continue growing with this new obtained knowledge
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Great conversation but the jarring contrast between these concepts and the utter barrage of cheesy ads that keep interrupting is hard to ignore.
I hear you I wish there were more options.
Hello. How can I read that paper on The Psychology of It? Erick Godsey did not say the name of the author and I would love to read the essay.
It would mean the world to me if I could read this essay. Please! 🙂🙏
Hey my friend I’m not sure what it’s called. I’ll see if I can find it. ✌️
@@THIRDEYEDROPS thank you! I really appreciate it 🙏🏼
Hi!@@THIRDEYEDROPS I'm sorry for insisting, but were you able to find it? Having those reading journeys on new ideas is my favorite thing in life. 🙂
@@THIRDEYEDROPS I would love a copy as well, if you have it 🙏
Damn...
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Seth Godin kind of artist.
I have a question: why is God love?/Why does God love?/why does God love us?
Does anybody know anything about the dream jung had about the sarcophagi ⌚🦍🔑
Where does he talk about that one?
@@THIRDEYEDROPS it was in memories dreams and reflection i think
Godseys voice sounds different 🤔
He had an intense traveling bout so he was a bit hoarse when we recorded this.
Im inspired, i make rings and silly artsy vids on the tik toot heh you know... same name =-) thank you scholars
The end was a bit much lol
Noise and vibration are energy and that's the! ALL.. whatever.
xoxoxo
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