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Classical Guitar Pickup Review: Kremona KNA NG-1 Piezo Pickup
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2018
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A review of the Kremona KNA NG-1 Piezo Pickup for Nylon String Guitar. Need to amplify your classical guitar? This video shows you how to amplify a classical guitar using easy to install piezo. This is a pickup for classical and flamenco guitars that goes on the tie block behind the saddle ensuring that the piezo pickup does not interfere with the sound of your guitar and is detachable. The video includes an unboxing, installation, and demo test. I was super impressed and find this to be the best external pickup solution for classical guitar I've seen yet. Note that on a 12 hole bridge there is no change to the angle of the strings which is a bonus!
Consider this preamp pedal (Zoom AC-2): amzn.to/2tqjJ1r
Kremona's Promo Blurb:
NG-1 the logical choice for musicians wanting to professionally amplify the natural sound of their nylon stringed guitars without modification. Utilizing the tension of tuned strings, the NG-1 piezo installs safely and securely on the classical or flamenco guitar tie block. NG-1 is a passive system designed to work flawlessly with your favorite acoustic amplifier or colored via your preamp of preference. 1/8" to 1/4" cable included.
• Delivers the natural sound of your nylon-string guitar
• No modification to your instrument necessary
• Wooden sensor casing is lightweight and unobtrusive
• Detachable, or may remain installed when not in used
• Includes 8' foot detachable cable
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I've been playing with this pickup for two years now and it's fantastic!!!
Can you get the volume high?
@@christopherdanielstuart1401 Through my Roland 60 W acoustic amp it can be heard in a church filled with people
The song is Lágrima by Francisco Tarrega
its a gorgeous melody, will have to look him up
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great review, I'm sold! I don't have to buy another classical! Going to get one for my Michael Thames. Thank you for doing this.
The angle of your strings towards the saddle doesn’t change. That angle is determined by where the holes in your bridge are, not by the height of the pickup.
I'm considering buying one of these pickups. Thank you for the review on it. It's been helpful.
Now I want one, I can barely play the guitar so no gigs from me but DAMN IT I WANT ONE!
Mochure Al-Ghamdi 🤣
You my friend have been afflicted with the common musicians ailment, G.A.S. (Gear Aquisition Syndrome). There is no cure! Lol
@@kevinmaillet4712 The timing of this reply is funny because jyst yesterday I bought a Kalimba. I will suck with it but I bought it.
@@mochure LOL
My father was looking for a solution to play live avoiding at all costs to make a few holes to his Nylon Strings Guitars by installing a Piezo/Preamp with EQ system. I saw this system in a GC Store and checked a YT review... Well, this is it. A very good solution in it's class if not the best. Not perfect but very enjoyable. This was the perfect gift for Father's Day, and now (Christmas) he received a second one. It's that good!
Nice!
I'd been eyeing it for a few months, you convinced me. Just ordered it. Cool channel, too, just subscribed :)
Thanks!
Hope you enjoy it!
I just purchased one based on your recommendation. Cant wait for it to come in!
Hope you like it!
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Just FYI, I've had it for almost two weeks now and played through my Roland AC60, it sounds great! I play for my church (before the virus hit) in front of a out 30 to 40 people and was previously just using a microphone through the PA. Although it got the job done, I hated not having any control over EQ, reverb etc. Cant wait to try it out in front of an audience. Sorry for rambling but thanks for the recommendation!
Thank you I can’t afford another guitar now and this is an answered prayer ❤
your review made me purchase one just now. excited to try it for myself !
Hope you like it! Be careful, some people have mentioned they are a bit fragile.
Excellent review. Sounds great. If you are not using a compressor, then the pickup compresses excessively.
If you have a guitar with a 12 hole tie block the KNA pick up will not affect the break angle of the strings because the string comes up over the saddle from the second string hole on the block.
true!
I have to say, for the low cost of this product, the sound is very good.
Thanks for the review.
Wonderful demo. Thanks a lot.
If I may, why not use a clip on condenser microphone? They sound so much better.
I have the NG-2 with the volume knob on. I find this pickup nice sounding but overly sensitive IMO, plus the volume knob buzzers when not on full, it would be nice to be able to role it off a bit sometimes instead of having to adjust the amp or PA when playing more powerful pieces.
I've got two of this things in two of my guitars, and I think, they pick som warm from the top of the guitar; not only the plastiky bright strings sound, like a regular piezo under saddle do. Greetings.
this is amazing. don't hesitate. price is very competitive. Could not be simpler. seen @100.00 plus.
Great video! I'm thinking about buying this pickup - do you have any long term conclusions about it? How's the durability and does it work for live band settings?
A good review from this channel means I'm probably buying it. Thank you!
Ya, I'm keeping mine and selling my gig guitar. Although I'm also going to get one of these for playing gigs: amzn.to/2tqjJ1r
Sounds great! Thanks for the demo.
I'd be interested to see how it works going through an iRig into an ipad for effects, then to the amp...
Great video! Thanks! I'm going to purchase one tomorrow, from the link on your UA-cam channel. Very well made video! Liked and subscribed!
Let me know how it sounds on your guitar.
Great review thank you! Used to a steel string acoustic that I fitted a Fishman Rare Earth & Mic Blend (amazing) and wanting a nylon string classical and maybe adding electronics (piezo/transducer + internal mic if possible), I was going to get a Cordoba C12 with the raised fingerboard, but noted your slight disappointment it wasn't raised enough. The De Casa Sylvia looked too good to be true and perhaps so with the quality concerns mentioned in forums although the customer service seemed very good to resolve these. I then seen your great C5 review and thought lets instead start low with good features & quality, but ah then the C5-CE, but I wanted a full 52mm nut and no cutaway for the experience so back to the C5 albeit the C5-CE is only 2mm less and same for the C7-CE though the latter does have the Fishman blended preamp. This little KNA is pretty tidy, no fuss with no modification and at least gets connected for some decent amplification - nice one!
I have the second version of this this mg2 and I have it installed and it works perfectly fine but it sits at an angle from the bass to the treble as the A and E strings push the pick up forwards then forcing the tail of the E and A strings up and then sit in a position that’s not suitable and also down near the G and B strings the pick up has a hair line split in the centre of the wood . Please get back to me if anyone has a suggestion for the pick up in my mind I think it just can’t hold to pressure the strings put on it .
I am using the same pickup, and I am not getting the same sound, what I am getting is a boomy sound and mid range is really lacking.
Ordered one! I like it. Yeah it could use a preamp but it really is pretty well balanced. I am able to compensate by adjusting the setting on the roland ac33 practice amp.
Nice to hear!
Great review, Thank you. I was thinking of going for K&K SOUND pure classic but I change mind because the price is much cheaper and the sound is OK to me. The cost is 1/3 of K&K pure classic.
I'll have to check out the K&K though, maybe it's sturdier.
Just finished a beautiful home grown flamenco guitar. I've got a similar looking piezo by Coxx and am trying it out, but ... I made a beautiful inlay at the place where this piezo comes. And that's a shame ... but ok, let's try it out! And for me: it's ok. Not spectacular, but in any way it doesn't change the acoustic sound at all as you said, and it works perfectly with a good amp (Schertler Unico) and a pre-amp (Zoom A3 ... in my case). Or at least: sufficiently for the purpose of playing a live gig. At the studio I blindly prefer the knowlegde and the experience of the sound engineers with their soffisticated mics and all that stuff. Coxx is a Polish (?) enterprise and I bought the thing for about 15 € instead of 70 US dollars for the Kremona. Quite a difference! All other systems for classical guitar are much more expensive and more far-reaching to the instrument itself. Good review and good advice! Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching.
I was curious as to how this compared to those 2.99 clip on guitar mics.......i must say I'm impressed, it's a good 10% better.
Very good review. Thanks!
I want to play my acoustic nylon guitar with my Mom on the piano and my guitar need some amplification. This could be my solution for that problem. I have 2 nice fender amp here, that have a very good clean sound.
Sounds like a good plan. Some light reverb on the amp can really help. It's tricky getting a natural classical guitar sound but it will certainly amplify it.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar I have the amp reverb, and also an Rocktron Intellifex 24 bit reverb. Should do the job. I am thinking about that, or just going all in and buying a DVote dPA 4099 for guitar. It has quite a price tag to it, but would be a solution for live play and for recording.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the included cable picks a lot of 50 Hz hum in my case.. Pretty much every other cable works better. I'm using THR5A amp.
That's odd, my is silent. Maybe there is something near it interfering?
Great review. A discussion of ideal amps for this application (party background music) would be welcome.
Thanks, I agree, in the meantime check out the Roland AC33, it's great!
So far this is the best of the Kremona PU demo I have seen, I wonder how it would behave played along with some other instruments.
They make other pickups for various instruments.
Classical Guitar I meant that wondered how this PU would sound if you played say with a piano or another instrument since PU tend to loose clarity when you are not playing by yourself.
I think mu coment below is not visible enough so i post again = to my experience the pickup lacks serious sheelding - the sound on a good solid state amp is oké but in other situation it gives conciderable hum so than it is not suitable for recording (i had to redo some recordings using a condenser mic because the hum was tooo much) i tried an extra wite to have some grounding but that gave some improvement, but not enough
Problems occurred for instance with RC300 looper and using palmer preamp, i have installed a few of them on different guitars before discovering this problem (all of them hum beyond tolerance as far as i am cocerned) would add a picture if i could but that appears to be impossible here!
Do i need to buy a pre-amp or will an audio interface suffice? Need your opinion, thanks! Great review (as always) by the way!
Most audio interfaces have built-in amplifiers anyways. You must have a gain knob on the channel, this signal goes through an amplifier inside the interface before becoming digital to go on the computer. Also the level is OK for direct amplifier usage, a small pre amplifier could be better as i have heard but it is not under any circumstances obligatory with this pickup.
Thanks a lot. You helped me to find good thing.
Glad I could help.
I want to try this with La Bella Folk Singer strings (I'm not a classical guitarist but I have a Cordoba c7) which have ball ends. Can you snip the ball ends off and tie the strings as usual so I can use this pickup?
You can do anything but check the tension level to make sure it's safe for your guitar.
Break angle is pretty on off there is either enough or not, so there is no real tonal change when reducing the break angle. Adding mass to the bridge/top will drop the top resonance a touch, that can either be good or bad depending where it was before the instillation. I just installed the pick up for a coffee shop performance I am doing where it is too much of a pain to get a good microphone setup between performers. I was surprised that it sounded OK. Great video!
Hi Bradford, love the video. From what you remember, do you think this pick-up could function well in combination with a drum and synthesizer?
Well, you might want to have a good amp or preamp to adjust your sound to mix nicely...
Ha, Hi. I was wondering why it sounded off/weird to me.... I had playback speed set to 1.5X speed. wups. 1X sounds great in, even in Raw. You said it was turned up pretty high... and then cranked it up twice. great review! Subscribed! Still using it?... Doesn't look like it. interesting.
Thank you very much. Very helpful -Best wishes
Glad it was helpful!
Hei man, great video! In fact, not much is going on pickups for classical guitar so you are more than helpful. Any ideas if this could work with digital pedal effects, such as reverb and ambient sounds? Or any ideas of what other ways do exist for Nylon classical guitars playing with digital pedals? Thanks for all the videos!
It would work with pedals but the more technology you go through the less like a classical guitar it will sound.
Great review thanks😊
Thanks for watching!
Hello , nice sound .
I have a Charango and because there is no bone in the saddle the strings are right true the saddle thats why this product is i think the best option, but because i dont have much to spend , what kind of a preamp do i need.
Thanks
Many thanks!! I will try it!!!
Hope you like it!
Fantastic review. I am sold on it. One thing though - does the quality of the guitar affect the pickup's quality. I mean, how good will it be with a sub $500 classical guitar? Which guitar are you using in this video?
Maybe a little bit in terms of sustain length but tone I'm not sure. I always play with a cheap guitar when I do casual gigs anyway in case of damage or theft.
What if I don’t have an amplifier? How do I make my guitar louder for live performances if I don’t have one? I have an acoustic electric guitar just no amp anymore
That sounds a little problematic, acoustic-electric guitars sometimes aren't designed to project as much (depending on the model and design) so amplification is your best bet. You're technique can certainly help though, a technically advanced player with nails can get more volume out of a guitar.
Interesting review. I have had one of these for years but did not like the sound compared to an internal mic when I tested it. I wonder if they have improved them? Perhaps I need to give it another shot. They are very fragile. If the cord gets caught and pulls on the pickup with any significant force, the pick-up will break.
I've heard that they are fragile. I guess I have to be careful.
Rookie guitarist / relative capable sound engineer here - May I please ask a question? My father was a luthier and I just found one of his old guitars that I would love to record with. I enjoy the notion that this is a simple and non intrusive solution for recording nylon classical. The pickup appears to work well - I'd like to chain it via my amp into my computer to record little bits and pieces - do you think it cuts the mustard considering there'll be a fair bit of support re: tonality and volume from eventual mixes on recording? Thank you so much + subbed!
Well, a microphone works best for acoustic instruments but this is certainly an affordable and easy solution. Have you checked out the Zoom recorders and other brands. The H4 is great and flexible for future upgrades.
What guitar did you have that has that preamp built in on top of your guitar you talked about at the 5:04 (gig guitar?) spot? Thank you!
Hi. Thanks for the helpful review. It’s on my wishlist! Enjoyed and touched by the sweetness of your playing. What’s the purpose of that half sleeve (looks slightly padded) on your right forearm? Does it reduce the discomfort of the guitar body edge pressing into the inside of your right forearm? If so, where did you get it? I need something like that...
It's an old sock! Yes, just takes the edge off the edge. Less friction for arm movement too.
thanks for your reply! i appreciate it. what a good idea... will give it a try.
Would you please share the name/brand of one of those preamp devices that you mention in the video?
You can find all my gear here: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/classical-guitar-store-reviews/
Great product thanks
Hi. What is that guitar brand & model you used in this video. I like the color of the top part. What wood is that, cedar? Also, is it a 3/4 sized guitar? Thanks for sharing this.
This one: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/review-cordoba-c10-classical-guitar/
I didn´t quite get it. Does one have to have an interface and a computer? I just wanted to have the pickup on my classical guitar and in case I play on a gig, plug it in and have the sound come out of the amp...
Yes, you can just plug it into your amp. If recording though you need something to get it into your computer.
Thanks for everything you do for the classical guitar. I would like to buy your book. Your book have TABS as well as notation? I 'm not really a good notation reader but TABS will helping me a lot. I will appreciate your response. Once again Thanks
Almost all my material has tab except for some of the educational books. Look for the word Tab in the description of the book, I always include it if it has it.
I have a Cordoba lefty. I'm thinking it shouldn't make a difference because the side that you put the jack into will, in both cases, be on the high E string side of the guitar, but still... What do you think?
I don't think it would matter but you could write their customer service to ask...
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Actually, I couldn't find their website at first, but then I did. I asked, and they said indeed it didn't matter. Thanks.
Thank you for all of the helpful videos!
I have a concept of modifying a cheap classical guitar to prevent the soundboard from actuating, so that I can practice silently. I'm hoping to find a pickup option to use headphones with. Do you think this Kremona model would be a good candidate, since it relies only on the vibrations of the bridge apparatus?
Thank you.
Hmmm, ya maybe but not sure, it depends on how you are dampening the soundboard I guess.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar, my idea is to open the back of the body to access the underside of the soundboard. Then I would glue to the soundboard wooden boards cut to fit between the bracing, thick enough to hopefully immobilize the soundboard, which I hope would drastically reduce (or eliminate) the guitar's normal auditory function.
I don't think this would impede the guitar's conductive properties: the vibrations should still travel normally from the strings to the bridge, where the piezo can detect them, even though we can no longer hear them.
That's what I'm hoping for.
Thanks and greetings from the North Island!
Hey, thanks for the reviews. I have this and just recently purchased the AP-2. How do you get rid of the plastic sound?
Well, experiment with the placement and amp settings. I've found it works better on classical guitars near the bridge or heavier bracing.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Sorry, I just re-read my question and it's confusing. Like me try again: I have the KNA NG-1 also, is there a way to EQ out the plastic sound?
@@paulysguitarjournal Hi Paul, I have a Cordoba C7-CE (electro acoustic) though somebody now recommended me to return it to the store and buy standard classical guitar (without the electronics) and use this Kremona Pickup. I actually didn't think the C7-CE sounded THAT plasticky myself. How is your experience with the KNA-NG1?
OK - now try some Kremona guitars. I think they rival Cordoba.
Sounds like the acoustics of your recording space offer a lot of natural reverb.
Hi, thanks for great review, i wonder, does it gives you grounding problems like humming noise and such ? I assume it is my ungrounded amp , is yours grounded ?
Thank you
Mine seemed fine. There is a ground on the amp plug and my house is grounded so I'm assuming.
I don't currently have a nylone but I'd be interested in hearing this in comparison with a regular film piezo placed on the bridge. film piezos can be had for pennies on the dollar. I'm sure the wood helps with the transfer of vibration but wonder if KNA did anything with the voicing. My initials are KNA so of course I'd want one.
I'm wondering the same thing... I have a few cable piezos that I don't know what to do with...
Holy crap that’s awesome
It's a pretty good solution, works better than the magnetic ones to my ears.
Nice sound!
What you did with the EQ?
Thnks!
Very interesting pickup!
In what I play the muted sound of the string is quite important. Does that sounds transfer well to the amp with this pick up?
I'm not sure what you mean by muted? It might be pretty thumpy I would guess.
I mean more like ghost notes@@Thisisclassicalguitar
Hi ! Do you need a phantom power ? Let's say i want to use it with a Street cube :) Thanks a lot
No, you do not need phantom power. Just plug it in and play.
Maybe you could pair this with a video on acoustic amps, or a good acoustic amp, someday.
Good idea, I'd have to get my hands one first. I've tried the Roland AC33 and it was pretty great.
That one looks interesting. The Fender Acoustisonic 15 is also highly rated on Amazon (but it's not battery powered).
why not switch off the mic that you are talking into for a couple of seconds when making this video. Just to hear the pickup only...
Great review! have you tried it live? a few reviewers on amazon lamented some feedback.
I had no feedback and I turned up my amp pretty loud. That said, it might be good to go through a preamp first with feedback control such as: amzn.to/2tqjJ1r
Be careful on leaving it installed on your guitar. It is not really supported at the end where the amp cord plugs in and it can break at this spot. When mine broke the wires were still intact so I just glued the whole thing onto a popsicle stick and it still works fine but there may be some minor degradation in the sound quality. If I could only find a rosewood or mahogany popsicle stick.
Yes, a number of people have mentioned this and the review could have used a talk about build quality.
now here is a good observation = i tried to reverse the pickup but the end (the part where the minijack goes in) is a little to thick to turn it upside-down to have it stick out less
I have tried several ones and most of them have grounding problems = they have a serious hum which spoils the possibility of making recordings and this after testing several possibilities of connecting the pick-up = with preamp is gets worse (and i use palmer preamp and G&K solid state amp) so i don't know how he manages to produce such a clear sound (??)
Nice video. Are you able to transfer the audio signal as midi data to a DAW by using software like midi guitar 2? It would be really useful.
I have no idea, I would say not.
It should work with Midi Guitar 2. That plugin will work with pretty much any audio signal. The audio to midi conversion is done inside the computer so it shouldnt matter what pickup you use. Check out a video of a guy using Midi Guitar 2 with a harmonica ua-cam.com/video/jzltXmY0PLY/v-deo.html
@@liambrittenmusic Thanks Liam, after some practice, I have been able to work with the plugin successfully.
Thanks for the video, do you think it works if I plug in my headphones?
I’m afraid not: you need a headphone preamplifier
Can’t go very wrong with a Kustom amp, even if it’s not an acoustic model.
Arg, I'm done with tubes though, so much extra noise. I'm going solid state from now one.
Thanks for the review. Does the p.u. respond to tapping the top ? (i guess so but ...)
Yes, tapping the top makes some sound but I think it's better than lots of contact mics that actually attach to the top rather than the bridge. But ya, I try to stay off it when playing.
Thank you ! Depending on playing style, that might not be an inconvenient, actually. @@Thisisclassicalguitar
Have you ever try this pick up for concert? But, I like the sound it produces.
Not on stage, just for casual gigs (background music).
Want to try this with a Pono Big Baritone Ukulele 2 nylon and 2 WOUND strings -will it work?
ready for loop
I wonder if I could use that on a 7-string classical guitar.
Me too
You can. It’s a tight fit, but it works.
Obrigado ótimo review
Can I use an overdrive pedal together with this pickup?
could you tell me the song at 6:42 please? thanks a lot.
What tittle classic song do you play for the review??
I also want to know :)
What impedance should it go into ?. I know Radial has a Di. with a 3 Meg Ohm input, that probably would be optimal, this info is important ;-)
If only I knew what it all meant!
I have a Fender Blues Junior guitar amp. Has anyone tried this pickup with one ?
I saw your video and then went to Amazon to check it out. There are many 5 star comments comments about the quality of the device but among the 1 and 2 stars, its fragility was mentioned several times. One guy left his device installed and while carefully taking it out of his soft case, it broke off. I can also imagine that it would just take one time of another musician stepping on my cord and breaking the pickup off at the neck. I'm looking for something that I can install and not have to worry about. Do you know of an under the bridge device that you could recommend?
Same thing happened to me, more than once and it only takes the slightest tug to rip that little plastic plug box apart and rip the wire right out of the metal element which is inside the piece of wood. Once it just got caught on someone's sleeve and that's all it took. They are great in concept but are WAY to delicate for live very active live performers. As a studio only instrument it would probably be fine.
I have a Puertorrican cuatro which is ten steel strings (octave pairs) and its way expensive and I don’t want any cutting into the wood. I wonder, do they have that for steel strings?
They have tons of products: amzn.to/2tqczdD
What if the cable hits the guitar? Does it make a noticable sound?
It makes a sound but I guess in the classical position we don't change the guitar angle a ton, at least not as much as rockers, so it's not really an issue for me.
Beautiful Tone, where can I get the Piezo for experiment with an electric guitar?
Why would you want a piezo with an electric? The electric already uses pickups
Hahahhaha
I’ll be sending mine back. I think the one they sent me was a return, that somebody tweaked when they originally tried to install. Judging by the packing. Anyway, mine experience was bad. It sounded “woofy” and very microphonic, picking up hand and arm sound from the top. Tried adjusting the lateral position. But it made no difference. Very delicate, and never came close to getting anything close to a good sound. Tons of feedback. la Patrie Concert with a Fender Acoustasonic. Amp works fine and sounds great with my Taylor 614. Wanted a simpler Plug-and-Play solution than mic’ing with. Shure SM-27 condenser mic. Very disappointed Zero stars.
That's odd, maybe it was defective.
Where did you buy it from?
Hi bro, please let me know what's song play in this this clip?. Thank you.
Lagrima by Tarrega: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/lagrima-by-tarrega-free-pdf/
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Thank you so much. 😊😊😊
thank you, bro
does this need a pre-amp? is the signal volume good enough to just plug into a regular amp? thanks
It's good to go right into an amp. If you needed a boost maybe a preamp would help though. I'm fine with it as is.
could this be used on a pedal?
Hi!!! How do you conect piezo ng-1 with your pc soundcard. I have 2/3 differents connectors but none of them sounds. Please tell me if i need an speciffic connetor
Through an audio interface, I have a universal audio one but I would just get a cheaper one. My gear is listed here: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/classical-guitar-store-reviews/