It has more noise if you’re comparing it at 100% to something like an A7iii at 100%, but that’s not a fair comparison, since you’re viewing the A1 file at a much larger size. When you scale them to the same resolution, like you would in every real world scenario for print or digital, the noise is compressed, so the noise performance is typically as good or better than lower resolution cameras. And like you mentioned, the extra detail gives you more headroom for noise reduction while retaining detail.
Sony a1 has the most dynamic range of all hybrid cams. This makes it the closesr to a cinema camera. So for filming there is no better dlsr style camera and its a perfect photo camera also. The a1 is worth its money
your content quality seems like it comes from channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. i was a bit shocked i was off by 3 digits. clearly, you know a thing or two about making good and interesting content. now let's just hope the lord of algorithm bless on you and give you the subscribers you deserve. subbed!
The noise is manageable if you stick to the parameters that the camera performs best at. ISO 100 and 500 on the A1 give the most dynamic range lowest noise. The difference between 400 and 500 is huge.
as for on/off switch, certain cameras may have an issue with a flex cable inside, that can wear off by simply on/off switch movements, that's why I prefer on/off buttons in different places, but I guess quality standards in flagships are much better (I hope)
The flip out screen was a deal breaker for me too, I was choosing between the A7IV and the A1. I couldn't see myself spending that much without a flip out screen!
I hate the flip out screen on my a7siii and a7iv. Way too time consuming to just tilt the damn screen up. The a7siii should have a flip out screen but the higher end photo cameras absolutely shouldn’t.
Appreciate you breaking it down for us. It’s been on my list of camera options. I’ve owned the A7S iii, FX3, A7IV, A7 iii, FX9. Currently I have two A7IV’s. I’ve thought about selling both and getting the A7R V or A1 to get 8k video. So far the A7IV is my favorite camera I’ve owned for my job. I need equal ability to shoot photos and video for real estate marketing.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others. Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and steady firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo. Although you can't go wrong with either in the end.
the flip out screen for photo I get it, it's totally a preference. Personally - We still use the a7iii and a7iv because you can use both for photo during like a wedding and sometimes I don't like the flip out screen. overall nice review thanks for sharing your experience!
Just remember, it's not a vlogging camera. Flip out is for vlogging. If you need a flip out screen so you can see if you are in frame then get a mirror connected to your hot shoe or something so you can see if you are in frame. It's cheap and requires no power. Just connect it and you are good to go. I use one with my iPhone. A camera looking handle to hold the camera and on the front is a mirror I can flip around when not needed so I can use my good camera for vlogging instead of the front crappy camera. So a mirror for vlogging should be an easy thing to adapt. That is all a reversed screen is anyway. An electronic mirror.
You spoke more about the pros than the cons which lends me to say keep it as a back up because you never know when you might need it especially when the specs calls for it.
@@delanescott7872 it's about being sensible for a specific application whereas a $7,000 camera may be a bit much for general-purpose photography. I still own the A7r2 and the S2 and they came in handy when I needed a multi-cam setup. Besides, if I'm going to work hard to obtain an A1 you bet I'm going to keep it for a long while.
Definitely get that about grain in higher MP cameras. I have the a7riv and it is really unforgiving - the a7riii is much cleaner. Would you like to see Sony use the more robust body of the a1/a7siii/a7riv with the a7iv.
First of your videos I've watched. I clicked on it by mistake as I'd confused the A1 with the A7 Mark 1. But I watched right to the end as I learned a lot about the A1 along the way. Also your frank and engaging presentational style was seductive, and different in a good way from so many of the camera videos I've watched. Keep up the good work!
For the first one, well yea file sizes are massive when you shoot 50mp, but you do have the option to lower it to a lower resolution in raw so the file sizes could be smaller, but if you’re just going to shoot at lower resolution, then it would just make more sense to get the A7IV. Personally don’t have that issue since I have tens of terabytes of available storage but I get that some people don’t have that option. And for the noise performance, well personally I was quite impressed, we all I have different expectations and the A1 certainly met mine. I have very stable hands so sometimes I can even get away with 1/8 shutter handheld with effectively no motion blur though a lot of times that’s not possible so sometimes it is kind of bad, especially low light video compared to the A7SIII. And for system error, well I’ve actually gotten those error messages or any system errors really, I guess I just got lucky there. And for the flip out screen, well year I agree with you, I also would’ve preferred a flip out screen. Also one thing that impressed me was how strong the shutter is, once I accidentally pushed my finger on the shutter pretty hard and I thought the shutter definitely broke because it’s often the most fragile part of a camera and somehow, the shutter continued to work perfectly fine so that’s something else I’m quite impressed with
@@luisedtr07 When a person's hand is bigger than the grip, they tilt their wrist up to hold the camera. When the grip is bigger than the hand, as with the vertical grip, they hold their wrist straight, reducing the strain on it. In addition, the hold can be more relaxed when the grip is used. Consider the brackets holding up a shelf. If they are small, the shelf can support a limited weight. But with a larger bracket, it will support more weight. Or, with the larger bracket, less stress will be applied for the same weight. That is happening with the grip. To test this, it is important to have the index finger on the shutter, because that also shifts the wrist position. It also removes the index finger from holding the camera. Both increase the gripping requirement of the other fingers and the strain on the wrist.
Main reason is they don't want to cannabilize the sales of the A1! If you had the same autofocus/tracking and improved menu and color science with 24 or 33 meglixels and say 6K video instead of 8K for $4500 instead of the $6500 of the A1 then Sony would lose money.
@@gregorybeale a9iii is still needed to compete with R3. New menu, picture profile, oversampled 6k60p shouldn't be too much to ask for a sub-flagship to be priced around $5k.
I’m the opposite. I sold my a9 and a7r4 and bought the a1. I couldn’t care less about the screen but I really need the extra dial at the top. I didn’t like the space the photos take up so I use APS-C lenses. They are lighter and very clear. Stick a 55 on the a1 and I can use it for street photography. I’ve never had it freeze on me. What I like best about it is that it compensates for ME. If I forget to take it off 2000 shutter when I enter a darkened temple, my dear a1 still snaps good photos. It is by far the best camera I’ve ever used!
Thanks Abdi! Thanks for commenting and I really appreciate the compliment, means a lot. Just checked out your channel as well, awesome stuff and I just subscribed :)
I donno why Sony didn't give all the tricks in their sleeves to the flagship model A1 like flipout screen and focus breathing compensation...the way they separate their product line is getting quite annoying these days.
Between sony a1 and sony a7rv which you would choose ? I want a hybrid camera, most time gonna be used for video, sometimes for photo, i dont take photos of birds, animals, things that require a high fps but i'm with this question on my mind
The amount of noise caught me off guard with the Sony A7R4, I knew noise levels would be higher with so many megapixel's but I didn't realise just how much noise until I started using it. The camera defiantly came with a learning curve when it comes to shooting and editing to minimize the noise.
I wonder what’s the method to the madness to not having a flip out screen…. Cause it’s low key ridiculous to spend $7,000 on a camera with no front facing
System error is a real problem. Mine started this switching on and off loop with system error message. Retailer told me it’s a motherboard issue and they will replace it. I’m waiting for the camera, I hope this thing will get fixed. Thankfully mine was still under warranty otherwise it would have cost me a lot I guess
Never watched this channel before but this person speaks a ton . What was this video about? . He loves the camera , loves the video it shoots , it’s so fast takes great bird photos.Then why are you selling it . He should keep it and then he almost has the entire range of Alpha cameras .
Can you do a full breakdown on how you shoot your videos with the A7iv? From settings all the way to post production and color grading, I just got it and I’m trying to figure out how to use slog 3 to its full potential lol
Lol I’m not a watch guy. I prefer to buy cameras. But my business partner encouraged me to buy at least get one nice watch since he’s into watches. It’s a Montblanc.
External 7 or 5 inch screen. That is my "whatever you come up with comment." Seems so obvious to me Why do you not at least comment about what you all tried and why that could not make up for it to you - in Your video... I think an external monitor might even quadruple quality and pleasure without being clunky. later..:Ok i see now that you dont feel like it on any setup so I guess you must be (why not) knowingly "allergic to additional monitors ? Thanks for your video. It does make a lot of sens - also im relation to your thoughts to the A7-4
Color science actually has more to do with the lens rather than the camera itself, I've owned 3 systems throughout the years...really tough to quantify, but the lens will define the tones
I'm officially turned off from getting the a1 now. I was so sure about it until this video because our shots great video. Nah...I'm still getting it as a C-cam to my a7S3 and a74.
I have to wonder about the credibility of someone who pays $7k for a body and the main reason for dumping it is the lack of a flip out selfie screen ... just sayin'
Thanks for the content. I agree, the A7IV really does it all. I have a D850 for wildlife, A7IV as backup and streaming, A7SIII for video and slo and the A7RIV for when I have bright conditions for wildlife photography. So a bit of a mish mash, but good enough. Thanks for the vlog.
@@petersuvara A7IV. The A7SIII has really excellent rolling shutter. I should have elaborated. I was commenting on the A7IV "doing it all" as it were. Sorry about that!
1. File sizes (you knew it before buying) 2. Noise & Grain (you knew it before) 3. System Errors (unable to set you camera correctly. 4. Flipout screen (you knew it before) You are the perfect example of an amateuer buying a pro camera and cant handle it.
Canon R5 is a really attractive camera now that they removed overheating and IBIS wobbling issues with the latest firmware update. Hopefully third party lens support to come soon
IDK man I was watching the vid from PM and I could still see the wobble. IDK that's just me. I owned it for a few months and I had to sell it due to the overheating and wobble. I almost bought the R5C, place the pre-order but then decided to cancel.
@@luisedtr07 I almost went with the R5C as well but the battery life is what stopped me. Glad I stuck with the R5. Wobble isn’t 100% fixed but no camera with IBIS is free from that issue. Also, the overheating issue is 95% fixed. Haven’t had any issues since the newest update!
Question: with a top-of-the-line expensive camera like this, have they not figured out how to send the camera live view to your mobile/tablet (with accompanying camera setting editing) ?? DJI drones have been doing this for years on hugely less expensive products. There really is no excuse if this App camera control functionality isn't in the A1 !!
I will not sell my A1 for now , the fact that I can take pictures using a flash on electronic shutter makes it worth it. 4k 120fps is very important for me .
I just bought an A1 to replace my A7IV. The A7IV isn't anywhere near fast enough for surfing photography and I want more megapixels. I'll probably sell my A7IV and get the A7RV as a back up.
let's dig in...There are no sides,it's a camera..Period..ALL cameras over $700 can be used professionally, and having a grip means NOTHING to quality of images. Next, there's no logic in buying a camera over 36 MP and not first considering the files sizes. That means that anyone would have to have enough space to keep and archive files with redundancy. I went straight from 16 MP APS-C to 36 MP full frame, yet logically I already had extra computers, bought multiple SD cards, and got a slew of portable hard drives. All the nonsense about color science is a scam when people are going to redo and fix the pictures/video in software anyway. It's not as if you have to walk around inside the computer doing the work, like some sort of skilled craftsman. MOST people do not know nor care about brands, formats, noise, bokeh, nor most of this crap ONLY spoken about on UA-cam. UA-cam is the land of complaining, crying, and comparing, just because people can, while the REAL world uses cellphone cameras.
@@joeneely9970 yeah I was like huh??? So in the first 14-30 days you could have sent the camera back,there was no 'noise'?It took a YEAR to figure out the files sizes were big?Joe,I thought i was losing my mind for a second, then i saw your comment and I figured it aint us,its him..this deserves a resounding DUHHHHHHHHHH...
@@Mr.scoopoly All of lot of TRASH. My Pentax ROCKS in low light and keeps me from using anything to take a picture when it's dark, YOU might not need it,yet i dont care. When you put files into a computer to edit,you can change just about anything as far as color. You would not know one camera from the other after it's been through software..duhh...I dont have the Sony A3 either and i damn sure didnt like that little toddler camera body. You have the Canon EasyBake Oven and you're comparing it with color science and lowlight? How would you know when the camera spends most of the time making bread ,cakes and pies while it's melting?
@@Mr.scoopoly ok,so when it starts melting I need to make me some biscuits, maybe some eggs and steak. I have cameras that have no recording limits and do live streaming. I guess you should have the R5's back since you spent your money on it.It means nothing to me that you didnt love the Sony A7iii because I never bothered with it.
@@Mr.scoopoly Are you slow or something that you keep moaning back and forth about your Sony? Ok, MOST cameras in that price range and level make excellent stills,so that's a given.You can buy what you want,yet i am not spending MY money on any camera that shuts off after 30 minutes and shuts down.I dont care who makes it.On top of everything,i fail to see how you people buy cameras,have issues with it,and dont take it back within the given refund period. It makes NO sense to keep something that you don't LOVE to use,all the time.Go cry to Sony about it and maybe they will cry with you.I have a LOT of gear,from photography, to IT, to audio,to actual studio gear,and I can not think of one thing except this one desktop I dont like that's still here...period..and i will probably give that away..
I am switching over from the Canon R5 and R6. Had a love hate relationship with these cameras for 2 years, then came to the point where I just couldn’t stand them anymore. Have had so many issues. I rented the A1, hated it at first (probably because I’ve been a Canon shooter for 15 years), but then once I got everything setup, shot a wedding and a couple sessions with it, I loved it. And YES the on/off switch being on the front right side, just like my Fuji’s was a huge plus. I actually felt the A1 was a great companion next to my Fuji GFX. So now I’m on the lookout for a backup/secondary full frame body to the A1 for wedding days. Would you say the A7IV has the closest colors to the A1? Or would you have another recommendation?
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience! Honestly if money isn’t an issue I’d say get the a7rV, if not then the a7iv is your next best choice. I just got the rV and I’m going to sell my a7iv in exchange for it. 😅
I wish they would bring a A9iii with all the specs of the photo side of the A1, very downsized video specs, but the new screen please, ah and 3.3k,end of story
hell yea haha.. hey man I just saw some of your fx6 videos. I just got mine a few months ago too. I've been loving it so far. My next video will be on it. :)
Thanks for this amazing insight video! I am in the kindergarten photography business. Until now using a 7iii but with some autofocus problem when letting the small ones run, jump and got Nuggets… all the great stuff 🤩🥳 I am thinking in upgrading to 7iv or A1. Since you also have wild small one, what is your suggestion in this matter? Thanks for feedback 🧡
Thanks for fast feedback 💕 Even if I do extrem photography? this year nearly 80.000 images in 3 months of hundred of childrens jumping, running (real fast) towards me, playing outdoor up and down without seeing into the camera, etc. 🤔
I use an A7IV and a Z8 for photography. I also have an A7SIII, but it's gotta go for very green reasons. The Z8 is a little noisier than the A7IV if that means anything to you. It doesn't really change how I use the Z8 much. The image quality of the Z8 for both video and photography make me want to always reach for the Z8 first, selling the A7SIII soon. I can do almost anything with the A7IV,, so I'm very torn on trading both Sony's up for a single A1. I kind of don't want more noise though, so I'm wondering if I'm ok where I'm at, especially if you're saying that the color science of the A1 is the same as the A7IV.@@luisedtr07
"The system errors: I got that weird error message, I didnt really know which" ?? I´m using the A1 for a long time now. When buying a 7300$ camera I´m making sure, that I know what was the error and not just say its a system error and I dont know which... You use it as a point, but youre also saying they will fix it. That all sounds a bit weird to me... And youre selling youre 60MP camera, because the files are too big? I mean - what did you expect? What about compressed RAW? Weird.
I only went to sony now with the launch of the sony a7iv, and I really like it a lot, the camera body, quality of photos and videos, auto focus, variety of lenses with a fair price, but it's a shame a camera as expensive as the A1 does not have a flip screen.
probably something to do with weather sealing. Canon R3 doesn't have a flip out screen either. NIkon's Z9 does. I think we'll see a mark Ii version of the A1 in around 16 months and it'll feature the same LCD screen as the A7R V imho. Probably a few more mp too.
Hell yea man. As far as lenses it depends on your budget. But I would recommend the 12-24mm GM, the 14mm GM or the 16-35mm GM. If you can’t afford the GM then find one that’s more affordable but you can’t go wrong with those focal ranges.
since i did my update 1.31 on my A1 my WIFI connection stopped working it shows a permanent freeze anyone know about this issue that Sony refuses to fix after saying its a bug software ?
Hi Francis, thanks for asking! It's on FB marketplace: facebook.com/groups/1392447727659434/permalink/3314607262110128/?sale_post_id=3314607262110128 😁
I think it really comes down to preference and how close you want the camera to you. But my favorite is the 24mm GM and the 20mm g. I like how I look with these lenses.
Why Sony A1 seems to have better color science or more noise : AA fiter , not BSI Since the camera shoot faster it will have less time to process the image so they needed to put this AA filter Canon lovers will love the A1 color science and image rendering however that does not make it better image quality than other models using BSI and no AA. Viewing the a7IV which now has BSI, we can see how they improved the color science even with a BSI sensor, and I think that's one of the reasons they take so long to launch the A7RV, because they are trying to make good color out of the camera with BSI and no AA filter in high res. We can all see how sharp looks the images from sony cameras having BSI and no AA filter (they lack the punchy colors). And that's one of the reason fuji x cameras makes great images, they use no AA and now start to make BSI sensors, but with a secret ingredient : the x-trans sensors which does need less processing for colors. In fact we have to compensate the lack of colorful rendering when removing AA filter IMO
Lol i guess you didnt do the firmware update. The new update allows you to choose the file sizes. The noise and grain was also improved. Try to shoot with a flip out screen during an event. If you need that then you're a video shooter. Tbh you had GAS that's why you got the A1
Agree regarding the flip out screen and event photography/any fast moving situation. Way too clumsy and time consuming. And you’ll have to fold it back in before hanging it back down on the strap otherwise it will absolutely get smashed off.
@@luisedtr07 I could buy either. I think for me it comes down to do I actually need it lol. I don’t make my living with photography. Normally just prints for myself and some social media stuff. I do mostly wildlife, landscapes, macro, and aviation. Been using the Sony a6400 this whole time and looking to upgrade. The RV seems amazing though.
30fps is mostly a gimmick except in about 1% of the cases you shoot. I don't even shoot in 20fps mode on my A9 and Z9 99% of the time. Only a few specific situations where I would use it. Sony would be better to add pre-capture and a short 120-200fps mode like Canon did with the R3.
Photo centric users hate the flip out screen because it is not parallel to the focal plane of the sensor ie not a true image of what you are going to get. Video guys love it
With the money made from the a1 sell.. what camera should I buy to review for you? 😁
An iPhone 14 pro
Sony A7R5 when it’s released. I will definitely be on the look out if you plan to get it.
nikon z9
@@bar_288 Z8 is coming now!
@@bar_288 I have a Z9 it’s amazing but very heavy. Want an iPhone 14 Pro…. U help me get one?
It has more noise if you’re comparing it at 100% to something like an A7iii at 100%, but that’s not a fair comparison, since you’re viewing the A1 file at a much larger size.
When you scale them to the same resolution, like you would in every real world scenario for print or digital, the noise is compressed, so the noise performance is typically as good or better than lower resolution cameras. And like you mentioned, the extra detail gives you more headroom for noise reduction while retaining detail.
Exactly. The A1 actually has less noise in real world use.
A1 has one single issue and it's the price, I'd buy it over every other camera at the moment
You are absolutely right The only second one in line is the A9II
wont be selling mine its a true work horse does more than 99% of photographers out there can manage and does the job , no complaints at all
Well if u want to buy mine let me know! Haha
@@luisedtr07 but i already have one lol
@@sjm.photos what’s better than 1? 2!!! 🤣
@@luisedtr07 haha one for each hand ? lol
@@sjm.photos lol hell yea man! 🤘🏻
Sony a1 has the most dynamic range of all hybrid cams. This makes it the closesr to a cinema camera. So for filming there is no better dlsr style camera and its a perfect photo camera also. The a1 is worth its money
I bought the a1 because I needed the 30 fps for track and field. Having 8K is also nice too.
how is the camera
The A74 seems to be enough camera for many photographers. Some interesting insights into the A1 I had not heard before. Good video.
thank you!
a74 is for beginners
your content quality seems like it comes from channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. i was a bit shocked i was off by 3 digits. clearly, you know a thing or two about making good and interesting content. now let's just hope the lord of algorithm bless on you and give you the subscribers you deserve. subbed!
Lol thank you Augustine! Your words mean a lot to me as a new creator. I hope the algorithm gods bless me as well 😂.. thanks for subbing!
The noise is manageable if you stick to the parameters that the camera performs best at. ISO 100 and 500 on the A1 give the most dynamic range lowest noise. The difference between 400 and 500 is huge.
So you're selling it because you have no idea why you bought it ;p
Ouch
307 subscribers, well first of I will hit that red button ! Man the quality of your videos !!!!!!!!! Keep it up until you hit a killer a video !
Means a lot.. thank you!
as for on/off switch, certain cameras may have an issue with a flex cable inside, that can wear off by simply on/off switch movements, that's why I prefer on/off buttons in different places, but I guess quality standards in flagships are much better (I hope)
The flip out screen was a deal breaker for me too, I was choosing between the A7IV and the A1. I couldn't see myself spending that much without a flip out screen!
Lol tell me about man 😭 maybe a1ii!
@@luisedtr07 😂😂😂
@@luisedtr07 How does it work with cellphone connection? Useless for monitoring? As useless as a7iii?
Sony A7IV had to copy the flip out screen from Canon cheapy Rebel T3i (600D) -
even the screen resolution are both 1.04million dots ONLY
I hate the flip out screen on my a7siii and a7iv. Way too time consuming to just tilt the damn screen up. The a7siii should have a flip out screen but the higher end photo cameras absolutely shouldn’t.
Appreciate you breaking it down for us. It’s been on my list of camera options. I’ve owned the A7S iii, FX3, A7IV, A7 iii, FX9. Currently I have two A7IV’s. I’ve thought about selling both and getting the A7R V or A1 to get 8k video. So far the A7IV is my favorite camera I’ve owned for my job. I need equal ability to shoot photos and video for real estate marketing.
I recently acquired the a7Rv and I've been loving it! I would recommend it over the a7iv for sure :)
@@luisedtr07 Nice!
@@NestedTours thank you!
Intro was fun...😆😆😆 ...but great content,.. You've just earned yourself a new sub...
Haha thanks Matt, glad you found it entertaining 😄
I liked the intro too. Lol
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and steady firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo. Although you can't go wrong with either in the end.
Mate what about overheating? Does the A1 overheat after 3 or 4 hours video recording?
the flip out screen for photo I get it, it's totally a preference. Personally - We still use the a7iii and a7iv because you can use both for photo during like a wedding and sometimes I don't like the flip out screen. overall nice review thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you!!
Sorry to say, from all flagship camera A1 is the most unreliable in bad weather condition compare to others like canon R3 or nikon Z9
Really? Z9 I get, but R3? R3 literally has the worst weather seal and most defects when it comes to damage due to bad weather
Bro this is a great video. Omg. Best of luck to you. 🎉
Thanks!!
Just remember, it's not a vlogging camera. Flip out is for vlogging. If you need a flip out screen so you can see if you are in frame then get a mirror connected to your hot shoe or something so you can see if you are in frame. It's cheap and requires no power. Just connect it and you are good to go. I use one with my iPhone. A camera looking handle to hold the camera and on the front is a mirror I can flip around when not needed so I can use my good camera for vlogging instead of the front crappy camera. So a mirror for vlogging should be an easy thing to adapt. That is all a reversed screen is anyway. An electronic mirror.
You spoke more about the pros than the cons which lends me to say keep it as a back up because you never know when you might need it especially when the specs calls for it.
I know man T_T but I rather invest it in lights. And if I ever want it again I can go buy it
keep a 7,000 dollar camera as a backup LOL man you must have some deep pockets
@@delanescott7872 it's about being sensible for a specific application whereas a $7,000 camera may be a bit much for general-purpose photography. I still own the A7r2 and the S2 and they came in handy when I needed a multi-cam setup. Besides, if I'm going to work hard to obtain an A1 you bet I'm going to keep it for a long while.
@@derrick072 definitely gotta get my money worth out of it or at least sell it for a profit..LOL
Definitely get that about grain in higher MP cameras. I have the a7riv and it is really unforgiving - the a7riii is much cleaner. Would you like to see Sony use the more robust body of the a1/a7siii/a7riv with the a7iv.
yea man tell me about it
The A7IV is the right Sony camera for you. Good review!
Thanks!
Yes, ever since I had the m50, stay-bability is an important aspect of a camera when I'm considering an upgrade
2023 its now hear bought the alpha R 7 V hope to see the next generation of the alpha 1 MK II
Hell yea the 7RV is amazing! I’ve been loving it.
I have had my Sony a1 for two years and it's the best camera I ever owned. It will be my go-to camera until the Sony A1 Mark 2 comes out.
you'll be happy to hear that I ended up buying it again 😅
First of your videos I've watched. I clicked on it by mistake as I'd confused the A1 with the A7 Mark 1. But I watched right to the end as I learned a lot about the A1 along the way. Also your frank and engaging presentational style was seductive, and different in a good way from so many of the camera videos I've watched. Keep up the good work!
Ron your words are very much appreciated. I put a lot of effort on this video and your comments are very encouraging. Thank you for commenting!
Beautiful photos ✨thank you for the video
Thanks brother 🙏
For the first one, well yea file sizes are massive when you shoot 50mp, but you do have the option to lower it to a lower resolution in raw so the file sizes could be smaller, but if you’re just going to shoot at lower resolution, then it would just make more sense to get the A7IV. Personally don’t have that issue since I have tens of terabytes of available storage but I get that some people don’t have that option. And for the noise performance, well personally I was quite impressed, we all I have different expectations and the A1 certainly met mine. I have very stable hands so sometimes I can even get away with 1/8 shutter handheld with effectively no motion blur though a lot of times that’s not possible so sometimes it is kind of bad, especially low light video compared to the A7SIII. And for system error, well I’ve actually gotten those error messages or any system errors really, I guess I just got lucky there. And for the flip out screen, well year I agree with you, I also would’ve preferred a flip out screen. Also one thing that impressed me was how strong the shutter is, once I accidentally pushed my finger on the shutter pretty hard and I thought the shutter definitely broke because it’s often the most fragile part of a camera and somehow, the shutter continued to work perfectly fine so that’s something else I’m quite impressed with
Please look into the possibility that your wrist issues were related to *not* using a vertical grip, given the width of your palm.
Can you explain more??
@@luisedtr07 When a person's hand is bigger than the grip, they tilt their wrist up to hold the camera. When the grip is bigger than the hand, as with the vertical grip, they hold their wrist straight, reducing the strain on it.
In addition, the hold can be more relaxed when the grip is used. Consider the brackets holding up a shelf. If they are small, the shelf can support a limited weight. But with a larger bracket, it will support more weight. Or, with the larger bracket, less stress will be applied for the same weight. That is happening with the grip.
To test this, it is important to have the index finger on the shutter, because that also shifts the wrist position. It also removes the index finger from holding the camera. Both increase the gripping requirement of the other fingers and the strain on the wrist.
I really want an A7iv - that's not a comment on the video, I'm just putting that out into the universe :)
Can't wait for A9iii. Don't know why Sony has been delaying that for so long, given that A9ii is such an incremental update.
any rumors on when it will release?
Main reason is they don't want to cannabilize the sales of the A1! If you had the same autofocus/tracking and improved menu and color science with 24 or 33 meglixels and say 6K video instead of 8K for $4500 instead of the $6500 of the A1 then Sony would lose money.
@@gregorybeale a9iii is still needed to compete with R3. New menu, picture profile, oversampled 6k60p shouldn't be too much to ask for a sub-flagship to be priced around $5k.
I’m the opposite. I sold my a9 and a7r4 and bought the a1. I couldn’t care less about the screen but I really need the extra dial at the top. I didn’t like the space the photos take up so I use APS-C lenses. They are lighter and very clear. Stick a 55 on the a1 and I can use it for street photography. I’ve never had it freeze on me. What I like best about it is that it compensates for ME. If I forget to take it off 2000 shutter when I enter a darkened temple, my dear a1 still snaps good photos. It is by far the best camera I’ve ever used!
ahahah this made me laugh
This is good content man keep it UP!!!
Thanks Abdi! Thanks for commenting and I really appreciate the compliment, means a lot. Just checked out your channel as well, awesome stuff and I just subscribed :)
Great video! What white balance setting and pp are you using? Your colors look awesome!
Haha thanks man! I’m shooting at 5600 WB and on Slog3 cine gamut. Then I just use a Phantom lut. :)
I donno why Sony didn't give all the tricks in their sleeves to the flagship model A1 like flipout screen and focus breathing compensation...the way they separate their product line is getting quite annoying these days.
WHAAAAT purple-eyed baby 😯 so cool
Between sony a1 and sony a7rv which you would choose ? I want a hybrid camera, most time gonna be used for video, sometimes for photo, i dont take photos of birds, animals, things that require a high fps but i'm with this question on my mind
Will you be in front or behind the camera??
@@luisedtr07 behind
@@luisedtr07 behind, i want to film and photograph landscapes
Great video!
Thank you!
Wait till you get all the front focus issues with the a7iv...
I had noticed it before when vlogging and it was annoying. But with the update I haven’t had the issue since.
The amount of noise caught me off guard with the Sony A7R4, I knew noise levels would be higher with so many megapixel's but I didn't realise just how much noise until I started using it. The camera defiantly came with a learning curve when it comes to shooting and editing to minimize the noise.
Yea!
I totally agree. I am best friends with Denoise AI.
@@vivlund denoise is a life saver! I used it on that photo I got of the fox!
@@vivlund yeah, I have adopted topaz denoise into my work flow, it's saved many of my shots, I'm thinking of giving DxO PureRaw a try as well.
I wonder what’s the method to the madness to not having a flip out screen…. Cause it’s low key ridiculous to spend $7,000 on a camera with no front facing
how much ?
More noise makes sense but were you using the native ISO stops? What ISO were you noticing noise where you expected less?
That was a really long video to just say it doesn’t have a flip out screen 🤣🫶
🤣🤣🤣 fair point!
Ouch
No more warranty on this thing?
Great informative video. You have experience with both A1 and A7IV. Is A7IV better in low light image significantly comparing to A1?
Still my favorite camera easily. RAW 50 mp at 30fps. No camera does this still.
Yea I ended up buying it again a year later 😅
System error is a real problem. Mine started this switching on and off loop with system error message. Retailer told me it’s a motherboard issue and they will replace it. I’m waiting for the camera, I hope this thing will get fixed. Thankfully mine was still under warranty otherwise it would have cost me a lot I guess
how can yo knock the camera for not having a flip out??? you knew when you bought it, it didn't have a flip out!!!
Never watched this channel before but this person speaks a ton . What was this video about? . He loves the camera , loves the video it shoots , it’s so fast takes great bird photos.Then why are you selling it . He should keep it and then he almost has the entire range of Alpha cameras .
Lol thanks for watching Howard!
Can you do a full breakdown on how you shoot your videos with the A7iv? From settings all the way to post production and color grading, I just got it and I’m trying to figure out how to use slog 3 to its full potential lol
Hell yes! Video idea is in the Q :)
what watch are you wearing?
Lol I’m not a watch guy. I prefer to buy cameras. But my business partner encouraged me to buy at least get one nice watch since he’s into watches. It’s a Montblanc.
Well as a watch and camera guy, it’s beautiful and caught my eye right away lol
Sony A7R5 next???
Yassss! I already pre-ordered it lol 😂
@@luisedtr07 sweet!!!! gonna be awesome when it arrives
Gets here tomorrow for my birthday!
External 7 or 5 inch screen. That is my "whatever you come up with comment."
Seems so obvious to me
Why do you not at least comment about what you all tried and why that could not make up for it to you - in Your video... I think an external monitor might even quadruple quality and pleasure without being clunky.
later..:Ok i see now that you dont feel like it on any setup so I guess you must be (why not) knowingly "allergic to additional monitors ?
Thanks for your video.
It does make a lot of sens - also im relation to your thoughts to the A7-4
Color science actually has more to do with the lens rather than the camera itself, I've owned 3 systems throughout the years...really tough to quantify, but the lens will define the tones
I'm officially turned off from getting the a1 now. I was so sure about it until this video because our shots great video. Nah...I'm still getting it as a C-cam to my a7S3 and a74.
I have to wonder about the credibility of someone who pays $7k for a body and the main reason for dumping it is the lack of a flip out selfie screen ... just sayin'
I wonder too sometimes..
What lens and f stop did you shoot the A roll with? It looks awesome!
Thanks for the content. I agree, the A7IV really does it all. I have a D850 for wildlife, A7IV as backup and streaming, A7SIII for video and slo and the A7RIV for when I have bright conditions for wildlife photography. So a bit of a mish mash, but good enough. Thanks for the vlog.
Sold A7iv because didn’t have the left dial
Nah, the rolling shutter artifacts makes it impossible to use in many situations. It's better in APSC mode but still not great.
@@Fedorevsky the rolling shutter on the A7Siii or A7IV?
@@petersuvara A7IV. The A7SIII has really excellent rolling shutter. I should have elaborated. I was commenting on the A7IV "doing it all" as it were. Sorry about that!
1. File sizes (you knew it before buying)
2. Noise & Grain (you knew it before)
3. System Errors (unable to set you camera correctly.
4. Flipout screen (you knew it before)
You are the perfect example of an amateuer buying a pro camera and cant handle it.
1. you can also set the file size to either small or medium. If you don't like large files.
Canon R5 is a really attractive camera now that they removed overheating and IBIS wobbling issues with the latest firmware update. Hopefully third party lens support to come soon
IDK man I was watching the vid from PM and I could still see the wobble. IDK that's just me. I owned it for a few months and I had to sell it due to the overheating and wobble. I almost bought the R5C, place the pre-order but then decided to cancel.
@@luisedtr07 ya I see it too..but only slightly…I guess having 4K60 crop is a much bigger deal for me than the slight wobble at 15mm
@@luisedtr07 I almost went with the R5C as well but the battery life is what stopped me. Glad I stuck with the R5. Wobble isn’t 100% fixed but no camera with IBIS is free from that issue. Also, the overheating issue is 95% fixed. Haven’t had any issues since the newest update!
It never will
Question: with a top-of-the-line expensive camera like this, have they not figured out how to send the camera live view to your mobile/tablet (with accompanying camera setting editing) ??
DJI drones have been doing this for years on hugely less expensive products. There really is no excuse if this App camera control functionality isn't in the A1 !!
To me it's a dream camera next to my a7S III. Not sure I can afford it and by that time might opt for a1 II instead.
I will not sell my A1 for now , the fact that I can take pictures using a flash on electronic shutter makes it worth it. 4k 120fps is very important for me .
Hard to believe the Sony a1 is two years old now.
(As of this post.)
A1 is a BEAST!!!
I just bought an A1 to replace my A7IV. The A7IV isn't anywhere near fast enough for surfing photography and I want more megapixels. I'll probably sell my A7IV and get the A7RV as a back up.
yea if you want speed the a1 is def your go to. I just pre-ordered the RV as well! haha I will sell the a7iv to afford it lol
let's dig in...There are no sides,it's a camera..Period..ALL cameras over $700 can be used professionally, and having a grip means NOTHING to quality of images. Next, there's no logic in buying a camera over 36 MP and not first considering the files sizes. That means that anyone would have to have enough space to keep and archive files with redundancy. I went straight from 16 MP APS-C to 36 MP full frame, yet logically I already had extra computers, bought multiple SD cards, and got a slew of portable hard drives. All the nonsense about color science is a scam when people are going to redo and fix the pictures/video in software anyway. It's not as if you have to walk around inside the computer doing the work, like some sort of skilled craftsman. MOST people do not know nor care about brands, formats, noise, bokeh, nor most of this crap ONLY spoken about on UA-cam. UA-cam is the land of complaining, crying, and comparing, just because people can, while the REAL world uses cellphone cameras.
I had to stop when i got to the noise part... it was ridiculous
@@joeneely9970 yeah I was like huh??? So in the first 14-30 days you could have sent the camera back,there was no 'noise'?It took a YEAR to figure out the files sizes were big?Joe,I thought i was losing my mind for a second, then i saw your comment and I figured it aint us,its him..this deserves a resounding DUHHHHHHHHHH...
@@Mr.scoopoly All of lot of TRASH. My Pentax ROCKS in low light and keeps me from using anything to take a picture when it's dark, YOU might not need it,yet i dont care. When you put files into a computer to edit,you can change just about anything as far as color. You would not know one camera from the other after it's been through software..duhh...I dont have the Sony A3 either and i damn sure didnt like that little toddler camera body. You have the Canon EasyBake Oven and you're comparing it with color science and lowlight? How would you know when the camera spends most of the time making bread ,cakes and pies while it's melting?
@@Mr.scoopoly ok,so when it starts melting I need to make me some biscuits, maybe some eggs and steak. I have cameras that have no recording limits and do live streaming. I guess you should have the R5's back since you spent your money on it.It means nothing to me that you didnt love the Sony A7iii because I never bothered with it.
@@Mr.scoopoly Are you slow or something that you keep moaning back and forth about your Sony? Ok, MOST cameras in that price range and level make excellent stills,so that's a given.You can buy what you want,yet i am not spending MY money on any camera that shuts off after 30 minutes and shuts down.I dont care who makes it.On top of everything,i fail to see how you people buy cameras,have issues with it,and dont take it back within the given refund period. It makes NO sense to keep something that you don't LOVE to use,all the time.Go cry to Sony about it and maybe they will cry with you.I have a LOT of gear,from photography, to IT, to audio,to actual studio gear,and I can not think of one thing except this one desktop I dont like that's still here...period..and i will probably give that away..
How do you go about selling it? I don’t know where to go
I posted it inside of a few FB groups
FYI world. The noise isn’t because of the megapixels. It is because the analog to digital converter sucks.
Sony cameras look like toys nowadays. I love my a99.
I am switching over from the Canon R5 and R6. Had a love hate relationship with these cameras for 2 years, then came to the point where I just couldn’t stand them anymore. Have had so many issues. I rented the A1, hated it at first (probably because I’ve been a Canon shooter for 15 years), but then once I got everything setup, shot a wedding and a couple sessions with it, I loved it. And YES the on/off switch being on the front right side, just like my Fuji’s was a huge plus. I actually felt the A1 was a great companion next to my Fuji GFX. So now I’m on the lookout for a backup/secondary full frame body to the A1 for wedding days. Would you say the A7IV has the closest colors to the A1? Or would you have another recommendation?
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience! Honestly if money isn’t an issue I’d say get the a7rV, if not then the a7iv is your next best choice. I just got the rV and I’m going to sell my a7iv in exchange for it. 😅
I wish they would bring a A9iii with all the specs of the photo side of the A1, very downsized video specs, but the new screen please, ah and 3.3k,end of story
lol yea man that screen needs to be tons better
A1#1 👌🏾
hell yea haha.. hey man I just saw some of your fx6 videos. I just got mine a few months ago too. I've been loving it so far. My next video will be on it. :)
@@luisedtr07 It's great, I love it as well. Workhorse :)
Z9 #1... LOL
@@Photomeike haha my uncle in law bought one and he let me use it. It is very impressive for sure.
@@luisedtr07 I was just giving my buddy Michael a hard time. Your uncle is a lucky man! Great job on the video BTW.
Thanks for this amazing insight video! I am in the kindergarten photography business. Until now using a 7iii but with some autofocus problem when letting the small ones run, jump and got Nuggets… all the great stuff 🤩🥳 I am thinking in upgrading to 7iv or A1. Since you also have wild small one, what is your suggestion in this matter? Thanks for feedback 🧡
The a7iv is more than sufficient in keeping up with your little ones and more than half the price!
Thanks for fast feedback 💕 Even if I do extrem photography? this year nearly 80.000 images in 3 months of hundred of childrens jumping, running (real fast) towards me, playing outdoor up and down without seeing into the camera, etc. 🤔
@@daylit88 i think you should be fine but there’s only one way to find out! Buy it off B&H and you don’t like it you can return it within 30 days.
Thanks you so much ❤
The A7R V shoots only 7 fps when in RAW uncompressed. So, it's not a great sports/wildlife camera.
My z9 has much More Noise. With Lightroom. With a other raw Converter Its the same. A little Bit better on the a1
Really!? How is it with low light?
I use an A7IV and a Z8 for photography. I also have an A7SIII, but it's gotta go for very green reasons. The Z8 is a little noisier than the A7IV if that means anything to you. It doesn't really change how I use the Z8 much. The image quality of the Z8 for both video and photography make me want to always reach for the Z8 first, selling the A7SIII soon. I can do almost anything with the A7IV,, so I'm very torn on trading both Sony's up for a single A1. I kind of don't want more noise though, so I'm wondering if I'm ok where I'm at, especially if you're saying that the color science of the A1 is the same as the A7IV.@@luisedtr07
MAN YOUR SON IN BEAUTIFUL ❤️
Thank you! He is pretty cute ☺️
You getting some weird hate comments somehow related to you “trying to be a UA-camr” on UA-cam. I don’t get what’s wrong with some of these people smh
"The system errors: I got that weird error message, I didnt really know which" ?? I´m using the A1 for a long time now. When buying a 7300$ camera I´m making sure, that I know what was the error and not just say its a system error and I dont know which... You use it as a point, but youre also saying they will fix it. That all sounds a bit weird to me...
And youre selling youre 60MP camera, because the files are too big? I mean - what did you expect? What about compressed RAW? Weird.
apparently the new A9 III it is more expensive than the A1
I only went to sony now with the launch of the sony a7iv, and I really like it a lot, the camera body, quality of photos and videos, auto focus, variety of lenses with a fair price, but it's a shame a camera as expensive as the A1 does not have a flip screen.
Nice.. the IV is a solid choice. I’ll probably sell my a7s3 now that I have it 😄
probably something to do with weather sealing. Canon R3 doesn't have a flip out screen either. NIkon's Z9 does. I think we'll see a mark Ii version of the A1 in around 16 months and it'll feature the same LCD screen as the A7R V imho. Probably a few more mp too.
Is the A7IV a good camera for real estate and what lenses would you recommend?
Hell yea man.
As far as lenses it depends on your budget. But I would recommend the 12-24mm GM, the 14mm GM or the 16-35mm GM. If you can’t afford the GM then find one that’s more affordable but you can’t go wrong with those focal ranges.
since i did my update 1.31 on my A1 my WIFI connection stopped working it shows a permanent freeze anyone know about this issue that Sony refuses to fix after saying its a bug software ?
you should have kept it. The A1 just got an update that let you shoot Lossless S, much smaller file and still retain great details.
Yea I’m aware of the update but the file size is not the main reason I’m selling it.
So... how much are you selling it for and where are you listing it sir? 👀
Hi Francis, thanks for asking! It's on FB marketplace: facebook.com/groups/1392447727659434/permalink/3314607262110128/?sale_post_id=3314607262110128 😁
A1 ?
Would you say a7iv & a1 color science are similar or even identical? Particularly for photos
I would say they are pretty similar
What would be the absolute top tier lens(es) to film seated interviews on the A1?
I think it really comes down to preference and how close you want the camera to you. But my favorite is the 24mm GM and the 20mm g. I like how I look with these lenses.
This is the same reason I avoid this camera. They need a hybrid solution like the GH6.
Why Sony A1 seems to have better color science or more noise : AA fiter , not BSI
Since the camera shoot faster it will have less time to process the image so they needed to put this AA filter
Canon lovers will love the A1 color science and image rendering however that does not make it better image quality than other models using BSI and no AA.
Viewing the a7IV which now has BSI, we can see how they improved the color science even with a BSI sensor, and I think that's one of the reasons they take so long to launch the A7RV, because they are trying to make good color out of the camera with BSI and no AA filter in high res.
We can all see how sharp looks the images from sony cameras having BSI and no AA filter (they lack the punchy colors).
And that's one of the reason fuji x cameras makes great images, they use no AA and now start to make BSI sensors, but with a secret ingredient : the x-trans sensors which does need less processing for colors. In fact we have to compensate the lack of colorful rendering when removing AA filter IMO
Lol i guess you didnt do the firmware update. The new update allows you to choose the file sizes. The noise and grain was also improved.
Try to shoot with a flip out screen during an event. If you need that then you're a video shooter.
Tbh you had GAS that's why you got the A1
Agree regarding the flip out screen and event photography/any fast moving situation. Way too clumsy and time consuming. And you’ll have to fold it back in before hanging it back down on the strap otherwise it will absolutely get smashed off.
@@Eli-lb1lc that's not even a problem
Ah the classic UA-camr issue. I need to see myself…
I’ve been debating between the a7iv and the a7RV.
RV for sure if you have the cash. I’ve been loving it.
@@luisedtr07 I could buy either. I think for me it comes down to do I actually need it lol. I don’t make my living with photography. Normally just prints for myself and some social media stuff. I do mostly wildlife, landscapes, macro, and aviation. Been using the Sony a6400 this whole time and looking to upgrade. The RV seems amazing though.
@@davidlawson3400 two words.. TREAT YOURSELF! 😂.. can’t go wrong with either.
would you recommend the Sony a7IV for basketball photography?
hell yea man, a7IV is awesome.
Basically it's a user problem. Not the camera.
Did you sell already?!
Yes sir!
30fps is mostly a gimmick except in about 1% of the cases you shoot. I don't even shoot in 20fps mode on my A9 and Z9 99% of the time. Only a few specific situations where I would use it. Sony would be better to add pre-capture and a short 120-200fps mode like Canon did with the R3.
Except for people for whom that use case is almost 100% of what they shoot... It's a gimmick if you don't need it. It's not if you do.
Them adding pre capture would be a game changer for sure 🤘🏻
Photo centric users hate the flip out screen because it is not parallel to the focal plane of the sensor ie not a true image of what you are going to get. Video guys love it
Yea I definitely wish they could implement both. Similar to how lumix has done it. Saludos!