The Tire Testing Tragedies

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  • @johnvandeventer8668
    @johnvandeventer8668 Рік тому +29

    RIP to both drivers

  • @cobradalton8375
    @cobradalton8375 Рік тому +31

    My cousin, Don Bumgardner, was driving for Robert Yates, (Pre Davey Allison) and had won 20 out of 22 races that year. Unfortunately, while testing tires at a local fairground track in SC, he suffered a double blow-out, car left track, and he suffered career ending injuries. Multiple head injuries, and hand / arm injuries.

    • @GasGrassOrAssetto
      @GasGrassOrAssetto Рік тому +3

      Brutal

    • @david-468
      @david-468 Рік тому +1

      By any chance are you also related to Madison bumgardner? Long shot I know but usually athletes run in a family

    • @cobradalton8375
      @cobradalton8375 Рік тому +1

      @@david-468 Not that I know of, but I'll ask my Dad . Never know...

  • @Milton_Valenzuela
    @Milton_Valenzuela Рік тому +28

    RIP to both drivers
    What's even scarier is that both drivers were part of 6 who died within 14 months after NASCAR's only Cup race at Augusta International Raceway

    • @lukelyall5879
      @lukelyall5879 Рік тому +4

      That race was cursed

    • @abl892
      @abl892 11 місяців тому +1

      Wait how exactly was it cursed? Only what happened after or what happened in it too?

    • @lukelyall5879
      @lukelyall5879 11 місяців тому +3

      @@abl892 “Six of the top seven finishers would lose their lives before the next racing season: Glenn "Fireball" Roberts, Dave MacDonald, Joe Weatherly, Billy Wade, Larry Thomas, and Jimmy Pardue; the seventh driver was Ned Jarrett.” - 1963 Augusta 510 Augusta speedway wiki article

    • @abl892
      @abl892 11 місяців тому +3

      @@lukelyall5879 I just saw the photos, Augusta Speedway looks like the outline of China

    • @brianmaricle9646
      @brianmaricle9646 11 місяців тому

      ​@@lukelyall5879Ned Jarrett is still alive and well he's 91 years old and lives in south Carolina

  • @saragrant9749
    @saragrant9749 8 місяців тому +3

    The amount of damage to Billy Wade’s car is just staggering. What a huge impact, no surprise he was killed.

  • @onthehotgrid
    @onthehotgrid Рік тому +16

    Very well said and detailed. Well done 👍

  • @KellieLeigh48
    @KellieLeigh48 Рік тому +9

    RIP Jimmy and Billy ❤

  • @tiagocarnevale1424
    @tiagocarnevale1424 Рік тому +3

    From Brazil here. Always had NASCAR as my fav racecars. But now as discovered your channel it added so much to this pure american world. Gret great job. Congrats

  • @thegamingexpert156
    @thegamingexpert156 Рік тому +8

    RIP to them both

  • @ollieminecraft
    @ollieminecraft Рік тому +3

    Both Jimmy Pardue and Billy Wade would have had successful careers if they hadn't died.
    RIP Billy Wade and Jimmy Pardue.

  • @daleflinchum3244
    @daleflinchum3244 Рік тому +12

    Rumor has it Pardue wanted to set a new speed record, had the car lowered in the front and when the tire blew the car came down of the k-frame cross member causing a lose of control.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion Рік тому +2

      A steering component must have broken.

    • @pauljacques8756
      @pauljacques8756 Рік тому +1

      The operative word here is "rumor"

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion Рік тому +1

      @@pauljacques8756
      It's probably true if you consider the clever modifications that Smokey Yunick created.

  • @thewarwagon5649
    @thewarwagon5649 Рік тому +1

    My dad owned a '64 Merc - I still love 'em, but he bought his new & said they were notorious for bad tie rods, as they'd be leading after 400 miles of many races, but would fail from tie rod or oil line failure in the last hundred miles

  • @butchknouse8316
    @butchknouse8316 Рік тому +2

    Billy Wade died because he went under the seat belts. This led Bud Moore to invent the submarine harness.

  • @LeftyLucyRightyTyty
    @LeftyLucyRightyTyty Рік тому +9

    Sooo...just to clue you in...about Wade... He had his wreck whilst testing INNER LINERS. At that point in the development of the technology, they actually thought it was a good idea to BLOW the actual outer race tire...usually by driving over a set of spikes placed intentionaly on the track. Also Fireball didn't die at Charlotte & he didn' die of his injuries. He laguished for days...suffering...and pnemonia is what actually took him from us. Otherwise, awesome vid/story. Maybe do a little research into the demise of Marshal Teague? Be sure to reffernce Smokey Yunick's autobio concerning that deal.

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly Рік тому +4

      All these tire tests of that period were to develop the inner liner and the only way to test it was to blow the outer tire. I was a Grand National crew member in the second half of the 70s and those inner liners saved many a driver over the years. It was unfortunate that guys died and were injured in these tests but at least some good did come out of it.
      Racing is and always will be a dangerous sport no matter how much everybody works to make it safer and everybody that races (including crew members) knows that going in.

    • @pauldavis7310
      @pauldavis7310 11 місяців тому +1

      He would never gotten pneumonia if it hadn't of been the crash and injuries!!

    • @LeftyLucyRightyTyty
      @LeftyLucyRightyTyty 11 місяців тому

      @@pauldavis7310 well....duh....simple fact is he was concious and breathing when he left the track...he did not expire there. People simply do not realize the suffering he endured before he was mercifully taken from us.

    • @pauldavis7310
      @pauldavis7310 11 місяців тому

      @LeftyLucyRightyTyty I realize it. I searched the paper everyday for any update on his condition. I was 10yo. and the day he died was like a death in my family.

  • @77Rickenbacker4001
    @77Rickenbacker4001 Рік тому +4

    Coincidentally,I was born on September 22nd 1964.

  • @gregorygolden1296
    @gregorygolden1296 9 місяців тому +1

    Those were some dangerous cars back then. Factory frames, floorboards etc. the wheels had another wheel center welded on to it. The cars really were passenger cars with a bunch of modifications. And the seats...Maaan. Those were some ver, very brave men. My first racecar was similar to a old NASCAR racecar. Was a '62 Mercury. Even somewhat gutted out it still was heavy and didn't handle. Had a bucket seat and a basic rollcage. I raced it on dirt. That was in the late 70's. I could not imagine racing one of them at a mile or bigger paved track. Damn lucky i never killed myself racing in some of the cars i started out in. Yep. They were some BRAVE SOULS. GOD BLESS them ALL

  • @arise2945
    @arise2945 Рік тому

    Up and coming Indy car driver Bobby Marshman was also killed in a tire testing crash at Phoenix in December 1964. Marshman was only 28.

  • @darrylturner2611
    @darrylturner2611 Рік тому

    Dakotarider74 I a friends with a guy who worked for Dave Marcus and he was at the track that day. He said it was a tire test and Bonnett was paid to run the bottom of the track!!

  • @Chasta1n42
    @Chasta1n42 Рік тому

    I approve of the alliteration in the title

  • @dean7118
    @dean7118 Рік тому

    Soapy neil castles used to test Firestone at Charlotte speed way in the 60s and 70s

  • @jamiejones6994
    @jamiejones6994 Рік тому +1

    Pardue was also my family

  • @JoeL-re1dc
    @JoeL-re1dc Рік тому +5

    Nascar was better when they used real cars and not the multi-million dollar, fake bodied, go karts of today.

  • @travisglantonthetowerenthusias

    Does Nascar still have tire testing today?

  • @Elandycamino
    @Elandycamino Рік тому

    Just like Dale Earnhardt with the loss of Richmond, Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki, and Neil Bonnett, i think Petty also was at the right place at a bad time, With these racers and Ned Jarett quitting after Fireballs death it kinda eliminated some very good competition. Perhaps we're looking at Earnhardt and Petty tied at four or five championships had the tragedies not occured.

  • @shawnduffy1988
    @shawnduffy1988 Рік тому +2

    Makes me think what if they didn't pass how would there careers pan out? 🤔

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly Рік тому +1

      @@JeffKopis And the one nobody mentions is what if Rob Moroso had lived?

  • @bizjetfixr8352
    @bizjetfixr8352 Рік тому +2

    Your photos are out of sequence, or totally unrelated. Photos from the mid 70s?

    • @nascarfan4888JJ
      @nascarfan4888JJ  Рік тому +7

      I'm curious as to what you are referring to? There aren't photos from every race or event I am talking about, since most of the events took place in the 50s and 60s I mention in the video. Or there are very few. To supplement and paint a picture, I do use "newer" photos. However, I try to keep it consistent with the driver or track I am talking about for the most part. But I will try to be more clear in the future. Thanks.

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 Рік тому +1

      Only one I noticed was 3:48 pretty sure that’s the mid 70s. But that is literally one photo out of all the good work you do, just caught my eye and then I happened to see the comment. Thanks for the vids!

    • @philipkalin1928
      @philipkalin1928 Рік тому

      @@extragoogleaccount6061he prob. saw that one pic, and started going full f1 fan mod. 😅

  • @dean7118
    @dean7118 3 місяці тому

    Neil Castles used to test tires he was getting big money at the end of the week the engineers were celebrating and pissed Soapy off he got back in the car made 2 laps came into the pits slowed way down ,shook the steering wheel and broke out the sidewalls on all 4 tires one of the engineers said we'll leave it to Soapy to bust our bubble they asked Soapy how long did you know that the sidewalls were shakey ,he said about the 1st time they went out they wanted well why didn't you say something before Soapy said yall wouldn't pay me until the end of the week I done it after I got paid

  • @darrylturner2611
    @darrylturner2611 Рік тому

    What about Neil Bonnett? Word is that was a Hoosier tire test that killed him!!

    • @dakotarider74
      @dakotarider74 Рік тому +2

      Faulty shock mount they have said. Hoosier vehemently denied any wrong doing. Same goes for Rodney Orr

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly Рік тому

      @@dakotarider74 A friend of mine was a crew member on the team car to Bonnett's. He said he looked under the car and there was nothing wrong with any of the shock mounts.

  • @saramccarty3921
    @saramccarty3921 Рік тому +6

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