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As a novice woodworker I say thank God for shims, jigs, templates and clamps. Oh....and for guys like you who share these ideas so generously. This is a real good one.
Jigs are truly the best way to get into wood working... they may never be a "show off " project, but things like this are what allow you to accomplish WAY more with limited tools and are great practice projects when being started (not to mention the understanding of mechanics they instill).
Very helpful!!
This is a cheap diy copy of the bow table saw fence.
Better diy solutions exist as well. Using a 1030 t-track to keep the fence a fence (smooth vertical face) with the clamps working off the t-slots. If you wanted you could even mount mdf to it for a fence 10" tall if you wanted. And undermount supports to it for long boards. Both on the infeed and outfeed if you wish.
Wait!!! You can actually extend it farther as an infeed for longer boards by simply pulling your infeed toward you more and then clamping. This is fantastic! For those of us with contractor saws we can do infeed and outfeed both! Leaving the feed boards farther apart than the table top for flexability. As alway, inspirational!
In fact, I am going to go make this right now. 🔨🪚🗜
That was my thought also. As long as its tight down to the table and fence it can hang off the table 3 feet or more? It's a great addition.
Yep just make sure the saw is fixed in place well. If it’s free standing, introducing a longer lever arm can make it easier to tip over 🤓👍🏻
Good idea. One tool, two good and necessary functions.
Could even add an out feed piece too for smaller jobsite saw I guess. But I got skills, so I just cut it as is
Jodi you just taught many less experienced woodworkers how to have a safer day in our hobby shop. Thanks Buddy
An absolute obvious fix that most of us overlook and continually struggle with. Great job creating this, it's awesome!
Bro. Such a great idea! Thank you! I don’t mind the talking to the camera. You’re a great teacher. A+ thumbnail and title. 🤜💥🤛
Check out the bow table saw fence. Consider a diy solution using 1030 t-track as an upgrade.
I made one about 2 years ago. Added turned legs for kitchen cabinets. Cut 1/4 of leg out to sit into corners. Cut 10 legs perfect. Held from to legs as I cut and being turned legs. Made it safe. Glad to see you do it. I feel better now.
Thanks for the idea! An aluminum strip edge could help keep it true over time. And for those of us with smaller portable table saws (eg Dewalt), a little outfeed support on the other end could be really useful for many cuts.
100%. That's what I got
Really happy to see this! I’m a novice woodworker and I built one of these jigs a few months ago. I’ve wondered about it as none of my UA-cam woodworking buddies had recommended this jig. (That’s my term, none of my “buddies” have a clue who I am!). I’ve got a DeWalt jobsite table saw. The table is slightly larger than a postcard. No meaningful infeed or outfeed, no home-built surround… just the stock table. My jig is an extension for both infeed and outfeed. I glued together two MDF 1x4s as the auxiliary fence. I ripped a tiny slice off each edge to get rid of the rounded edges. I glued 1/8th inch hardboard, 4x12-inch for the infeed end and 4x18-inch for the outfeed end to the bottom edge of the MDF fence. Drilled three holes in the top edge of the MDF for three universal fence clamps and, that’s it! This is my most used table saw jig, love it! But… as a novice, and since none of my buddies had done this, I kept wondering if this was a bad idea… was I missing a safety issue, or what? Jodee, you just validated my jig, so thank you!
I had the same saw. Make sure you sand the miter slot to make it perfectly smooth. If you use Incra or other types of adjustable miter gauge, it'll make a world of difference. I liked the dewalt for adding rack and pinion fence that's sturdier than most saws in this class. I made a quick video on adjusting the Incra and sanding miter slot. But use a plywood+sandpaper after feeling for bumps along the miter slot.
@@hansangb Tamar at 3x3 says the same, sand off that coating on the miter slots. I haven't been brave enough to do that yet. But yes, the miter runners on my jig/sleds bind and stick a lot. And running my finger along the edges of the miter slot, the coating is obviously lumpy. But since the table is aluminum, I'm afraid I'm going to damage the miter slot with the sandpaper.
edit: Found your video. Good info. And I love that you're using a paper cutter. My lever arm paper cutter is my go-to tool for making thin shims (paper!). Thanks!
Great idea incorporating the outfeed. I'm working in a small space and have to keep the saw against a wall and roll it out for everything, so I'll be sure to include an outfeed in my build.
@@brianpaasch2665 The table is aluminum, not cardboard. Don't go hog wild on the sanding. A couple of passes with the sandpaper and try it. Still rough, couple more passes and try it. IMHO
Brian - I have the Dewalt job site saw. I bought an Incra miter gauge. I pressed some 220 sandpaper against one side of the slot with an 8 inch straight piece of wood (I had some hardwood flooring). I ran it one time on each side. Then ran gauge through to locate high spots. Removed very small amount and tested again. Incra gauge is adjustable but has min and max widths so take your time when sanding.
Yes! The in-feed side is where I need the support. I have a contractor saw and adding in-feed support & auxiliary fence was one of the first things I did. I went whole hog with a quasi-permanent attachment, but this would work great too.
I really appreciate your info. I'm just a beginner but I still use a bunch of your tips. Even if it seems simple to you, it never hurts to get instruction on how you built it.
Brilliant! You have addressed a common problem with elegance. A great solution for small portable job site saws that have that problem to an even greater extent than stationery shop saws.
Wow. What a difference this jig makes! I have a small job site saw and infeed stability has always been an issue. Just taking a small board on the bottom of a fence extension made a huge difference. Thanks for putting this out there.
Two feather boards work well too .
I don't mind you talking to the camera at all. Your enthusiasm for this jigs is obvious, as well as your humility in knowing what a simple fix this is. Thanks for sharing.
The main purpose for this is for giving LONG boards infeed stability and extending the outfeed fence as well. This is a great idea since it can be removed and installed in a flash... If the boards are not too wide you can use it with a feather board if needed. Thank you!!
Best tip I've seen in a while. Thank you for respecting our time (and intelligence) by omitting the build. Subscribed.
I made mine with a laminated pc of plywood 14” wide x12” deep for the extended table and the fence gives me 42” of fence support in front of the blade. I rip a lot of 8/4 walnut in lengths up to 75”. The larger table support and longer fence make the process simple and easy. Great auxiliary pc to have.
Smart idea. I've made several crappy, quick and dirty temporary infeed tables that attach to the fence rail when I had extra long stock to rip. They were always fussy and ended up getting torn down and repurposed once the job was done. Yours would be worth taking some extra time to make carefully to last and I think I will. Not going to make it today, but I've noted this video on my shop's chalkboard and the next time I need to make long runs of custom baseboards I'm going to whip one of these up. I immediately started thinking of ways to make it "better" but really, you've trimmed this down to it's essential function to create a shop appliance that is simple and easy to build. Well done and well explained. Thank you.
Great idea. This, in combo with my collapsible roller stand, is all I'll need for in-feed of long boards. I also move my 2x6' workbench over a couple feet to supply something to rest the workpiece on before the cut... just to make it easy on my arms. It sits just to the right of the saw on the in-feed side.
Great stuff. In addition to helping with the infeed side of things, this jig likely keeps longer rips straighter. I have always had trouble keeping real long rips super straight, which is critical for many builds.
I just built an infeed extension with some matchfit clamps. Super helpful. And nice to be able to use it on the left side with a miter gauge.
But this is a great option for a quick fix. Nice work
Thus us a good idea for boards from 4 to 6 feet, but for longer boards I had an infeed table on wheels. One can use saw horses with a table top, which of course would correspond to the height of the table saw. As a professional woodworker and instructor it's always best to take the time to fabricate jigs or set ups for safety and of course the end result is greater accuracy. I'm 78 and it does my heart good to see so many people enjoying the art of woodworking.
Thanks for another straightforward and useful solution to a common problem. You frequently come up with "why didn't I think of that" helpful jigs.
Finally I got around to making mine, and a buddy gave me a stack of scrap UHMW. So I used a pc of it for the input shelf.
So grateful for your wood working tips! Thank you sir!!!
Great idea. Infeed rollers and table extensions help, but even with feather boards, which can flex, long heavy boards are not easy to keep aligned to fence. Thanks for video - think I'll be making one this fall - probably out of ash too.
Incredibly useful idea, and really extremely well explained. This is the kind of guy I like watching on UA-cam: experienced and no-nonsense.
Made it... Used it this morning cutting Teak panels... Worked great!! Thank you for sharing!!
I built a similar auxiliary fence and added some Jessum In-feed stock rollers to hold the work piece down and tight up against the auxiliary fence. My indeed support is a tad longer, but that with a roller stand makes even long boards (>6-feet) easier to manage by myself. Thanks for making such a good explanatory video to convey this idea to many others. Good job.
Brilliance in its simplicity and functionality! Solves an issue that all table saw users have experienced and pretty much accepted or assumed as just being the nature of the beast. Definitely one of those ah-ha... so simple, why didn't I think of that moments.
What a GREAT idea! Easy to build, easy to use and so simple to build. I gotta have one! Going to build it tomorrow morning. Thank you for posting
Great idea... I'll definitely be making one and using this jig myself. Love your videos and find them very educational😀
Thank you for this video great inspiration I have a small contractor saw on a rolling stand I made so built a copy of your extension which works perfect. Only change I made was to add outfeed shelf to other end since my saw is mobile and didn't have any permanent infeed or outfeed.
I made my infeed support using your great idea. I love it. It was super easy to make and it has given me the confidence to cut longer pieces. Thank you. I did one thing different with the material that I had on hand. By a stroke of luck I used a piece of white vinyl shelf board on the bottom of the L-shaped support. The white board creates an eye-opening contrast between it, the white shelf board, and the board I'm trying to straighten. Each time I run it through the blade I reference the bad board to the white shelf material before making another pass through the saw. This has improved my work. Thank you.
I have that problem a LOT. Many of the things I do include a longer piece of wood that is harder to support at the beginning of the cut. I definitely will use this advice, thank you!
Thank you for sharing this. I am an experienced woodworker and this will be an awesome addition to my shop.
Izzy Swan came up with in infield table extender a while back, but I very much prefer this. The extension of the fence should help a lot. I guess a feather board could be added depending on the width of the stock too. I have some scrap plywood that I am going to use for this jig. Thanks!
I have the Izzy. Smaller and also has a slot. Helps a ton with sled management. I do 8 footers and that is what I need to control.
@@kenreynolds1000 good point about the sled slots with Izzy’s.
Yes I agree. This is a great jig. So simple in design and concept, that I wonder why no one has come up with this idea before. I joked around that it should be "patented". Ha Ha.
I clicked on this thinking you were about to show me a table saw jointing jig and was happily surprised to see what it actually is. Great idea! I've got some 3/4 Baltic birch leftover from a recent sled build that may just be long enough to cut out something similar to this.
I have been binge-watching UA-cam channels for ideas on incorporating my DeWalt 7491RS into the design of mobile 4'x8' work bench. Thank you for sharing this simple yet brilliant solution to a universal problem with most table saws, especially jobsite saws. - New Subscriber
You could also attach a couple of feather boards to your infeed table to make the wood stay down on the infeed. That's one less variable you have to deal with. Of course you could attach the feather boards to your regular fence as well when you don't need the infeed board. For a narrow board like the one in your demo, you could also use feather boards on the saw table. That takes care of all the variables except feeding the board through the saw blade. You would only need the infeed table for very long boards if at all. Wood workers have been using feather boards pretty much since the invention of the table saw.
Yep, feather boards for me, too! Plus one infeed and one outfeed roller stand for eliminating the horizontal wobble. Not saying this is a bad solution but mine is much more universal for more machines, eg. a router table, thicknesser, etc.
Dude, love this idea! I just extended the "in-feed support" board a bit longer and shortened the L board to the end of the factor fence and it worked great! You're awesome man!!!
I'm not an experienced woodworker and I appreciate your advice...I'm building one of these.
Excellent demonstration of an extremely easy to build and implement table saw jig. Alas, I don't have a ton of ash kicking about my garage, so it will be 19 mm plywood.
Thanks for sharing!👍
Neat idea for sure especially the part that adds bottom support to the in feed. I think a featherboard would do just fine in terms of lateral wobble. Using your front arm to keep the board flat against the table saw. A long level clamped to the fence is also helpful for adding some support for the in feed/out feed.
Dude, this is brilliant. So simple, but makes the job so much easier. I'm putting one of these together ASAP
Nice idea, well executed.
I use a roller stand at the infeed (and outfeed) for long boards, and a feather board to keep the work registered against the fence. As the cutoff gets wider (no feather board) I can move more around the left side and push right while also pushing forward. But it’s always nice to have more infeed fence, so good work.
Great idea.
The one problem with roller stands is that if the roller is not exactly 90° to the blade, it will push the timber/lumber sideways a little.
@@gregwyatt6534 If your roller stand is one roller this is true. If your roller stand is a bar with multiple "bearing" type rollers no problem and far less friction.
Look at the tables used for CNC style saws
@@michaelwalser9497 correct
Great Idea and thanks for just showing us how to use it. So many videos start to show how to build something without first showing what it does! Great to the point presentation!
I just discovered your channel and have enjoy every video I've watched so far. You are an excellent instructor and hope that you'll resume uploading videos again soon.
Brilliant thanks. I tried making one of these that clamps to the fence rail, but it was not so easy or reliable on a Bosch jobsite saw. Clamping directly to the fence is a whole lot easier, so I will be making one for sure.
I am glad there are creative woodworkers like you who can think in 3 dimensions!
Built that tool 20 years ago for my dads 1950 Craftsman saw. . .he loved it. . . Smart your able to use your scale +3 inches, that impressed me. NICE
This is a great idea! I have typically been using one of those flips top stands from Home Depot which store away nicely and allow me to have infeed or outfeed support as needed. My workbench backs up to my tablesaw so I don’t need outfield support. But you make a great point that Infeed support is just as important. I may build one of your jigs just to see how it works. You solved the only concern that I had in that I like to use my tape measure on my fence rail, which is calibrated perfectly. By making the jig have a width of exactly 3 inches, or any other whole number, it makes it super easy to use. Kudos!
I always used a roller stand when I needed additional infeed support, which was sketchy. Your solution is stupid simple, and not sketchy. THANKS!
Yes. Simple yet inspirational. And comments ideas makes sense too.
Thank you for sharing
Sometimes it's the simple things that are just what you need. And this is one. I've been looking at in-feed and out-feed assists for a while and Voila! It works in a small shop like mine and doesn't eat up a lot of space!! Thanks
Such a simple and easy thing to make yet so helpful. I had exactly the same problem and developed a very similar fence extension.
Thank You... I just made this yesterday Oct 3, I found by waxing the surfaces that wood to be cut touches, I had a smooth cut. No dragging.
Great tip, thanks. I probably missed it in the comments, but, add a piece on the out-feed side similar to the in-feed side to create a mini out-feed table.
I love your videos, You always have practical simple solutions to common woodworking problems. I love your box joint jig and going to make a shooting board based on your design after I failed on a more complex design.
That makes good sense . I’m about to do a project with 4 x8 plywood and this really will be an easy and great helper .
Thank you .
I love your casual, matter-of-fact approach in your videos.
Good idea. I had to rip some 5/4 x 10" x 10' maple. Heavy boards! I used 3 roller stands for the infeed. That way I could line up the board and stand close enough to the saw to guide it against the fence. This would have helped on that project.
EXCELLENT Idea! It was right in front of us the whole time . Thanks again!
as a retired furniture maker i give this a thumbs up. we never had those fancy sliding tables that they use now when i started and you are right about the larger panels and boards singlehandedly.
brilliant, I have no extended out feed so building this with support both ends of a cut will make this work for those of us with less workshop space, beautiful.
OUTSTANDING!! I've cogitated for years on how to build something like this, but something I used so rarely, I struggled through, making as accurate cut as I could. I may never use it, but I see one of these in my Immediate future! Thank you... In the process, you've earned my subscription. Let's see what other secrets I can garner from your efforts....
You will most certainly learn much by going back and watching previous videos. It's also fun to see his progression as he becomes more comfortable in front of the camera. I've followed for a very long time and never so much as one minute of regret for wasting time.
This is an elegant solution for those of us who have a compact/jobsite table saw. Thanks for sharing!
Great idea . I'm new to wood working myself and this is a great idea as i dont have a steady hand as someone who has been doing this for years . I see guys rip a sheet of ply wood with no support. one day i will get there . but for now just want all my measurements to come out square and correct. thank you
Worth the watch. I just finished a project that needed exactly this. Rock On!
Simple, effective and because it is so simple it's useable! I'm shocked that I haven't seen this before and it will be my next jig to make and (use) when needed. Thanks again !!
Still rather a novice woodworker so thank you for helpful videos like this. You got me thinking - I've already cut long strips of plywood for an auxiliary fence that I intend to assemble into an offset box section for squareness and rigidity. I don't have room for a permanent saw island so, for in and out feed support, I plan to construct collapsible legs with some sort of drop-in cross member(s). I'll still go with this approach for large sheets, but your flush support extension would allow my DIY fence alone to control long narrower boards, where only the length is a problem.
And yes, you're right that accessory projects like this often only require display of the finished item and discussion of its benefits, the construction being obvious (probably with customisation).
I like it! I can see adding an outfeed support for jobsite saws being a massive addition too.
Simplicity and functionality, sometimes it hard to get both, but you did. Going to make one for my Dewalt saw and I’m going to incorporate a out feed table also.
Such an awesome jig! This solves my problem for my Dewalt 745! Thanks so much for this!
I have some feed stands that tilt and go level when you feed in or out depending on what you need. Been hauling those things around for over 20 years, I've looked for new ones but now all you find is rollers that are 8 to 10 inches wide. These are about 18 inches wide with a hard plastic slick top. I'll still use them for out feed but I gotta make this for sure, great idea! Thanks.
Great idea! I have a small table and fight this most every time on longer pieces. Thanks for the fix!
Excellent answer to a common problem. Nice! Well done !! Thanks for sharing.
I made something quite similar for my saw, but I put the support at the rear, since I don’t have a rear support table. I use a Shopsmith, and because it has a tilting table, it’s convenient that that support moves with the table and the fence. it really is amazing how great ideas resurface throughout the community. Nice work. Scott
I’m sure this will wind up in your spam folder, but here’s a video of my fence extension and support: ua-cam.com/video/1uzgMJ7wHgw/v-deo.html Scott
Yup! I had to do something like this when I was breaking down some very long 8/4 ash that was 10” wide. Plank probably weighed like 80-100 lbs. I have great outfeed support, but had no infeed support to handle that job by myself. And my table saw is a basic 10” Dewalt, which has a short infeed to behind with.
My fence is a protruded t-track aluminum. I've had the idea to get a longer ~8 foot extruded aluminum that i could clamp on to give a longer fence, or at least input fence support further back. I think you just convinced me that i'm right and should get it. thanks!
Hey... I don't mind you just talking... this is brilliantly simple - I am so crap at feeding things into my little DeWalt saw - thank you very much!
I've done similar with a lead in extension. Wondered why no one else seemed to have done this. Mine doesn't have the horizontal piece though so thank you for the idea.
I've always just used an adjustable roller stand for this. Or two if the piece is REALLY long like 16'. Also my Unifence will adjust to bias the infeed. That said this is a good tip for novice woodworkers who haven't done a lot of workarounds as it looks like a bulletproof setup. And as others have mentioned featherboards will eliminate much alignment issues.
Great idea! Gets me thinking - that’s basically a ‘hardwood angle iron’. So, could angle iron be used to do this? Cheap, sturdy, relatively stiff, straight - you could bolt the wood support piece to the bottom to replicate what you did. Anyway, just riffing off your concept. Excellent - thank you!
Genius! Thanks for sharing. Gave me the idea I needed to resolve an issue with my contractor saw when I need to be a little more accurate and don't want to go back to shop and use larger saw. Essentially I am adding a board in the back that adds outfeed and I can square it to the back deck of saw which is squared the blade. Won't build cabinets but will saw some time on less critical tasks! So thank you!
Excellent , as usual. This would help cutting large sheets of plywood too. You could switch out the front piece for a wider board to give more support. I think Izzy Swan also made a similar type of jig for infeed support.
I chuckled when you mentioned the small space before the blade since my cheap Skil model is about a quarter of the size. So this simple yet effective idea would be even more valuable on a small saw. Good idea.
Just finished building myself one of these using various pieces of scrap ply. I haven't actually put it to use as yet but preliminary testing shows that it will be a valuable addition to the shop. So that the edge won't wear over time I've added a piece of aluminium angle. Thanks for sharing a simple but brilliant idea to make life easier and safer.
The aluminium angle is a great idea.
I like the simplicity of the design. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing ! I was thinking about a complicated infeed system for my table saw ! This is the solution 🙏🙏
I have 2 portable stands with a wide ball bearing roller on each that I use to support my infeed. Now I don't have to worry about the vertical movement. This allows me to stand to the side nearer the blade and easily guide the wood along the fence. This even works with full size sheets. These roller stands can be used other places when needed as well.
Very simple, fantastic idea and you do an excellent explanation of the “what’s” and “why’s”. Great vid.
From Missouri
I just got the new 2023 Tay Tools extended, tall 46” aluminum fence for my saw. It works great and clamps onto the existing fence like your design. It has tracks for feather boards and the feed support is highly adjustable.
I'm ripping up a load of pitch pine for cladding on my work shop this is going to make my work so much safer thanks👍
Thanks Jodi for this simple effective idea I will use!
A great idea and well explained!
Keep up the good work!
Keep on producing shop videos and Thanks for Sharing!
Holy moly, that's brilliant! I've been thinking of building a big infeed surround for my small contractor saw, but this will do the trick 95% of the time.
Love the idea! I’m going to make one today. Thx for sharing.
Love it. I've seen others but this is so easy and straight forward. Thanks so much.
Glad to see you read Fine Woodworking as this idea has been around for at least ten years that I know of
Brilliant idea. I rough cut my stock to shorter lengths before ripping because of the challenges you illustrated so well. I think I will make one, but shorter-- only as long as my fence in the back. Thanks.