>no prior uploads >just under 1000 subscribers >first video is a 3 hour essay about a TV show We will be watching your career with great interest, miss Bee
Agreed. I've been watching it from day one and loving it. I hope people give it a chance some day. Way too many MCU fans gave up after a few episodes because Avengers didn't turn up every other week. This show is a lot better than what we've been getting from Marvel Studios in Disney+. I think they just need to stop being cowards and add it to the official timeline and call it cabin. They've done it with the Netflix shows. This and Agent Carter are the last 2 big ones to be added back into the MCU again
@@joevictor53 I think also there's a slight stigma with network TV shows ever since many people have moved on to streaming services and are used to getting shows of a higher caliber there. Most of the big TV show budgets are concentrated there now. Yet AoS quickly picked up the pace and a maintained a very consistent quality, especially for its series length.
Daisy was done so dirty. and the cast in general, but damn why isnt daisy at least cameoing in avengers. Also the show is an actual whednm show, without joss, thats actually great in femae empoewerment and diversity, aside the funny bit wher eonly a black main cast member can live early .
I love the Ward reveal so much. He's this typical brooding anti-hero and we learn his sad backstory and know why he has such a strong moral code and drive to help people. And then other shoe drops and you realise that a backstory like his doesn't always make heroes. He was the golden boy, he was the big brother, he was the handsome brooding love interest. It deepens the character so much and the fact that none of those feeling were fake also puts this emotional vulnerability into him
SPOILERS FOR S4 (Didn't realize the video didn't cover this far into the story) . . . Sometimes I still want to scream into my pillow over his Framework reversal, where he's still the turncoat but for the other side because a different mentor figure got to him first. He's always the traitor, but not always the villain
I have no idea why nobody else has done at least hour long essay on this show. And I watch multiple channels that do those sorts of things. It's well deserved.
Trip's death also causes Coulson to enact one of the sickest plans I've ever seen. Seeing the heads of Hydra all turn on each other is incredibly chilling and a great way to downsize them before the release of Age of Ultron
The one thing I would add about "Yes Men" is that there is some foreshadowing that i only caught during a re-watch. At the end of his fight with May, AFTER Sif has "muted" Lorelei, thus negating her mind control, he attempts to shoot May. Chronologically, he pulls the trigger after Lorelei's hold on him is broken. After his heel turn is revealed, it becomes obvious that he had orders to kill May. This was his chance and not be held responsible for it, thus keeping his cover intact..
I never want to be the person who argues about someone being raped, but I do believe the writer's intent of that episode was for us to realize later, after the big reveal, that he was never really being mind controlled (and therefore it wasn't rape) but like it was so messy and the choices made were not good it was probably best just to pretend it never happened
The fact that this is ONLY seasons 1-2 gave me flashbacks to Billiam's LOST series and QuintonReviews' videos LOL As a big AOS fan, looking forward to the others!! 😄
Edit to also mention Flaw Peacock, I kept hearing his "keep this in mind" through your video. Not a complaint in any way!! Love you both, and definitely recommend his channel if you haven't seen it before and are a fan of long reviews of video games ❤
@@marocat4749 I think seasons 4, 5 and 7 are excellent, which makes season 6 even more disappointing. The only part I like about season 6 are the adventures in space. At least it's short.
The worst mistake of this show was try to appeal to cameos, connecting with the MCU and trying to keep up with the continuity. I wholeheartedly believe the best of Agents of SHIELD is when they stop caring and do their own thing in later seasons. Specially the time and space traveling
Yes, its way better when its not trying tio be canon, through i love sif, sif gets way more than in any thor movie here, and actually playing in the story.
They could have just said the Enchantress' powers only worked on men because MAGIC. That's her power, to control men. They didn't have to have any reason other than magic.
Magic didn't exist as a concept in the MCU at that point That's why they made Asgardians have "Technology so advanced it seems like magic", and have them not be literal gods, just being from another dimension and humans thinking they where gods
Yep, its so good, and i think season 1 is, ok its an introduction season, and daisy becomes really good and the cast is, through 4 onward is just greatness
@@defrostedrobot77 I'd say S5 gets much better on a rewatch. S6 is probably the show's lowest point, before recovering quite well in S7, but any other TV show would kill to have something like AoS' S6 as their lowest point.
to answer the question about how joss whedon-esque it is: in early season 1 it is very very very whedon flavoured. the monster of the week structure is so buffy coded, and raina's whole vibe really gives joss whedon wet dream pre season 2
I think , mostly due him being good at picking stuff and writers and that , thats wher ehe might added a lot. But its probably that a lot stuff from other whedon shows , bring that in. Like a lot is similar to other whedon shows, And to be clear, aside season 3 later, way way better, especially in writing women, diversity , and feminism. In organic ways. The whedon stuff seems to be the real stuff of whedon shows :P
I think people criticizing the first half of season one for being filler are nuts. Episodes 1-9 are what really helps you get to know the team and to prove my point I will go through all of the first nine episodes to explain this Episode one is focused on the team's formation Episode two is about the team's flawed dynamic and how the six of them are in some ways similar but in others very different, culminating in them actually being a team Episode three puts focus on Skye and Ward's trainer-trainee dynamic, gives us insight into Ward, has May getting through her aversion to being in the field, and introduces a major antagonist in Ian Quinn Episode four and five are both main plot relevant and put focus on Coulson and Skye Episode six puts the Fitzsimmons dynamic center stage and brings the team closer with this being the closest any of them gets to actually dying Episode seven pairs Fitz and Ward, giving us more with their characters and gives us a look at big SHIELD and how the way they operate differs from the way Coulson does Episode eight (one of my favorites of the show) puts Ward in center stage, giving us a deep look at the things that made him who he is, things that become very very relevant once it's revealed that he's a Hydra double agent Episode nine does a similar thing for May and gives us a first look into why she's the ice queen we know and love plus it has one of the best scenes in the show (May's prank on Fitz) To call these episodes just filler is ridiculous. They're episodes that help us to know the characters and understand who they are beyond just being SHIELD agents which is something I think later seasons lacked Edit: I typed all this before you you did exactly what I did. I'm glad you and I agree lol
Here is the funniest thing to me. Secret Invasion confirmed that Nick Fury was only ever sorta average, and only got his position and prominence due to a slave shapshifting spy army at his command. Coulson was given a fucking vibranium lego and rebuilt shield from the ground up without even having any funding.
A video essay one of the most forgotten but one of the best piece of marvel tv series ? sign me up.Its honestly annoying how much this show gets treated like a black ship of the family almost as if peopel above hated this show for some reason. strong first video i can assume even tho i didnt watch it whole yet
Especially when the show treats the storylines way way better than the movies for the most part. More coherent, its really nerdy about it in the best ways possible. Its metter than mcu to be honest and them dpoing their thing with the stories is bette rthan the movies, how can people hate or dismiss it, when its way better personally. why do people hate it, its incredible intersting characters and , may and daisy are great superheroes.
love finally seeing the multi hour AOS video I've been wanting for years, heck yeah. Also gotta love that Raina at the start loyally followed the Clairvoyant, convinced it was the real deal, only to be disappointed by Garrett when it all turned out to be fake, only for HER to become a real Clairvoyant.
I am autistic and my special interest is AOS so you have NO IDEA how happy I am to have found a 3 hour long video essay about my niche little interest that nobody cares about 😭 Instantly subscribed
God same. Well it used to be my special interest and I started being more invested in some other media for a few years (also have ADHD so hop around sometimes lol) but I’m coming back around to AOS and this was the perfect thing to remind me of exactly why I loved this show soooo much. Fitzsimmons in particular have a hold on me like nothing else.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D is most definitely one of the best comic book shows of all time. It deserves recognition and love. And I wholeheartedly believe the Secret Invasion story should've been told in an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D movie. Unfortunately Feige thought The Marvels was a better idea for some reason.
My favourite character in all of media is fitz, he is just so amazingly written and acted and i wish the show was watched by more people so that he gets more recognition. Amazing video by the way, I await the next part with anticipation!
I wholeheartedly agree with your take on real shield. That storyline was so hypocritical. Saying Coulson can’t be reasoned with and that he’s compromised when he literally tried to reach out. And the real shield never even tried to approach Coulson and his team instead spied on them and took over the base before talking to Coulson and finding reasoning.
I watched every single episode of AoS with my parents on the night each one released up until I went to college, and after that we would have phone calls just to talk about it. This show is so near and dear to my heart, and I never hear anyone talking about it! Thank you for making this video. Genuinely.
The panic I felt when you said "thanks for watching" and I realized 3 hours had passed. I don't know how you have so few subscribers because this was a top tier video essay. I'll definitely stick around for the next parts.
FINALLY. Typing in "Agents of SHIELD retrospective" yields a nice long video put together by someone who clearly loves the show at least as much as I do! Thank you for taking so much time to give love to this incredible show, looking forward to seeing you cover the rest.
Omg yes, someone finally made a multi hour breakdown of the show, I am so excited for this. Also, fellow Ace I see! Edit: OH OK, THIS IS PART ONE OF 3, LETS GOOOO
Yess, I just started rewatching it again so I am so happy to find this (the level of emotional attachment: still haven't watched the last season because I don't want the show to end)
Glad you did! And I totally get that, half of the reason I started making these videos was so I could find a way keep talking about the show after it ended
That is very smart, btw I was listening to this while doing chores and just burst out laughing anytime you put the uh-oh clip in so thank you for thatt xD @@emleighbee
@@emleighbee yeah it was hilarious, also finally managed to continue watching it (life shit) and I agree with your explanation of what happens after Skye's transformation. I saw Phil's decision to put Skye in the cabin as a way of trying to get some order and respect from the agents again (that way it made sense to me)
For your first major video, I thought this was very well done, well-researched, and well produced. As someone who watched this show consistently when it was on, it feels like time has almost completely forgotten about this show. Hell, Marvel nowadays pretends it never even happened (idk, maybe we'll see them pop up in some random Disney+ thing someday but I doubt it), so it's nice to see someone given the show some attention. I hope you cover the later seasons down the line.
AT LAST!! An AoS video was much needed. The mcu got all its cool stuff from AoS and you can’t prove me wrong. Yes it wasn’t great but it paved the way for mcu peak concepts
As someone who watched Agents of SHIELD from the very start and was initially excited about the #ItsAllConnected aspect of it, but slowly fell in love with its own world and characters, it's really nice seeing this show being so appreciated and loved in hindsight. The "small but dedicated fanbase" has been here all along! Great video, can't wait for the next parts! That being said, please never use that Rock Band mic again x)
Wow. The algorithm has really served me well today. Agents of shield is my favorite marvel show as of right now. I've been with it since 2015 when I found the show at my grandparents and been with it ever since and sad when it ended. Even when the Netflix shows were starting to kick off like Daredevil(I haven't seen it even to this day but i heard good things) I've just been on the Shield train and nothing else. I loved at the time how early on it connected to the bigger mcu, though obviously upset when it starts to be less connected. However nowadays I dont want them to touch this show with how bad marvel has been in recent years with continuity and destroying characters, and even with this show in the last season when it decided to do TIME TRAVEL so that alone would contradicts something but i digress. So just inserting it now late in the game wouldnt work as much i would've wanted to connected to the MCU early on. Coulson is mvp. I've always called him the underrated avenger. Seems like we will be expecting more videos. Can't wait to see them since we'll be looking at my favorite season of the show, season 4💙. And plenty more shenanigans moving forward.
These are my favorite kind of long-form "unhinged recap"; a show that I watched every week for the first few series then dropped off it. I think it got moved around the schedule here in the UK and I lost track of it so it's lovely to see a retrospective like this 💖
I stuck with the show from day one. Even though the mid-season breaks felt like a full year and season 3 the connectivity to the MCU became tenuiius at best. I just the entire show as being stories told of an alternate timeline, which the show eventual did. Great coverage keep up the outstanding work.❤
i watched the show after its ending, and honestly? to this day i see it as one of marvels crowning achievements of a series, better than most of the d+ content they've been giving us nowadays, ive been obsessed with this show since i started and its crazy that it's taken me so long to find people with the same mind on that... all this to say, thank you for making me a 3 hour long essay !!
Even daisy, she is so good of a character, if annoying at first but that makes her growth so rewarding and good. And it might be the most feminist whedon show yet too :P The show gets even better going off on its own.. And that finale, i mean 5 , through season 6 is great , 5 is a good finale. And how its good for the show, given what came out about joss, i think its a whedon show without the downfalls as he did probably got a lot talent on bioard and , not make it toxic. Ward is great as commentary, lol , he is great, but also a great toxic masculinity showcase.
So happy the algorithm decided to show me this video essay. I love Agents of Shield so much and no one ever talks about it! And you did such a good job! I can’t believe this is your first UA-cam video. Keep it up! Can’t wait to see what you do next ❤
Loved the video! I would say something more, but I'll leave that for when part II (or III) comes out, so, for now, I can only say that Agents of SHIELD is still the best and longest-running Marvel show, so much so that only watching the clips in this essay made me tear up more than once. Excited to see the next videos! 🖤🩶🤍💜
Glad someone is talking about this show, the actors deserve a lot more recognition for their great performances throughout the series especially iain decaestecker and elizabeth henstridge. This is one of my favourite mcu products. Honestly, its a bit of a rollercoaster but the biggest thing I enjoy is how it balanaces these grounded emotional moments with a fun but insane comic book weirdness.
My favorite part of the Hydra reveal in season one is the scenes between Trip and Simmons. Seeing Simmons' fear and feeling scared for her alone with this character we barely know during the most tense episode of the show, only for him to immediately choose to try to trust her and hand her his knife as a symbol of that trust immediately solidified him as one of my favorite characters in the show. I was genuinely devastated when he died in season 2. The Clairvoyant/Hydra twist is honestly probably my favorite twist in any Marvel media. Sure, the same twist happened in Winter Soldier as well, but seeing it from the "boots on the ground" perspective made it hit so much harder. The MCU needs more stories about the non-super people who come face-to-face with the fantastical events of the franchise. Also, this is a fantastic video essay. It's also one of the better ones about Marvel that I have ever seen. The fact that it's this Channel's first video essay is absolutely bonkers and I'm really looking forward to your next one.
I miss Agents of SHIELD because it was so much better than what Marvel is doing right now. My favorite story arcs were the Hydra takeover and Ghost Rider.
HOW DOES IT HAVE DOUBLE THE EPISODES, BETTER CGI AND BETTER STORY???? and disney has a MILLION different television companies including ABC!!!! use them
this show had its ups and downs but man the Ward heel turn when Hydra was revealed was genuinely so great - shades of an evil Cap whenever I was watching him during that arc
My god, it's refreshing to see a younger person actually esteem long-term story setup and character development. I am SO sick of the "filler" whining. Hell, I'm SO sick of ALL the whining. Critique is valid... when done by someone who's educated in storytelling, especially stories told in a particular medium the critic actually has a deep knowledge of. But rando neckbeards who, not always but far too often, are just incels and racists who shield their vitriol behind bogus claims of "valid criticism, are NOT valid critics. They're just not. Anyway, let me stop ranting and return to praising your earnest and sincere energy here. I usually don't give smaller channels a chance, and that's clearly a bias I need to get past, because I'm less than an hour into your video, and you already sold me! Keep up the fantastic work!!!
It’s one reason I say criticism is broken. It’s too often like people with no artistic talent hanging out at the Louvre, muttering “ Well, I wouldn’t have painted it like THAT.” Saying something is “bad writing” without explaining what the heck they mean. Deciding that their experience watching things in any way gives them what they need to rewrite what other people have done, to suit themselves, without actually knowing how much work goes into crafting the original narrative. Backseat writing by people who’ve only ever watched, who’ve never written anything. This show was brilliant.
Round of applause to you my friend, this video is phenomenally well made, especially for being your first video. Extremely well researched, I love how you have people reading out the quotes and your sources are on screen and very clear in the description. I love that you got the persepctive of another person who was there when the show was running and could provide insight on what it was like to be following the show from day one. I love how you cover each episode and each character so in-depth and you aren't afraid to both bash the characters who deserve it and giving grace or sympathy to some of the worst of people. And I love how you very rightfully tore Gonzales apart, I hate that pathetic little man (with all the respect in the world to his actor, it's a credit to his talent that he can make him so hateable) and he deserved to be ripped a new one. You've definitely earned my sub and I cannot wait for the next video!
Thank you. ❤ AoS is still one of the best Marvel series and one of the most offbeat. I wasn't impressed with S1 but understood it was stuck marking time , then S2 came along, they started launching their own storylines and it took off. I think it was one of the most inventive shows since they were constantly reinventing the story and there were some really brilliant storylines. Compared to what later came on Disney +, AoS can hold its head high.
currently watching the beginning of this video still but i just wanna say i’m so excited about it!!!!!! i feel like it’s not only the mcu that treats aos like it never existed or isn’t important, a lot of the wider fanbase does as well 🥹 so it’s very exciting to see a video about this show. despite all its flaws i love aos wholeheartedly and it sucks that it gets paid dust when imho it had better characters with fully fleshed out arcs than the movies ever did. and it accomplished that while being actively on the chopping block for most of its run
This randomly came up on my recommended and I'm very glad it did, I absolutely love Agents of Shield so much and I'm so glad this video exists. I'm looking forward to more stuff from you. Keep it up. 👍
Glad we got to my single biggest problem with the Rival SHIELDs plotline, that such a major chunk of it got entirely resolved in a movie that did not feature or even mention a single character or plot point from the show. We go from "May feels betrayed enough to turn on Coulson, who is now under arrest" to "Everyone's friends and Coulson runs both SHIELDs" just because Age of Ultron happened. Might not be my least favourite forced tie-in to the movies, but the most narratively frustrating. Also I did very much love this show despite some recurring problems I had with it and look forward to the next instalments of this video. We haven't even reached my favourite season yet.
This video unlocked something in my brain that has remained dormant for YEARS due to extreme Marvel fatigue. I had forgotten how much I had loved this show! I watched the first 2 seasons but dropped off after that when I started college and. didn't have cable or time. The fact that this is your first video is AMAZING. 1000/10 will absolutely be watching this again, instant subscribe!
Loved the genuine passion, effort and professionalism you put into this video. This TV show is so underrated, and it felt like I was the only one that kept watching (at least in my social circle). I'm excited to see what's next on your channel!
I’ve been a fan of AOS for years and I still vividly remember my initial reaction to (SPOILER) Ward…one of the best plot twists I’ve ever seen in tv honestly the character development and the relationship building really struck me as authentic and that switch felt so creepy and unnatural but at the same time made total sense somehow! I’m so glad this show has been brought back into the light (wondering if Daisy Johnson’s rumored appearances had to do with that) This video was great!!! I can’t wait to see more!!
I know you said you are going to do a future video on Corp Marvel and I look forward to that. As another poster said…. You cant really explain all the issues with AOS without the insanity of Permutter. Just his over the top zealotry to bury anything that Disney didnt own and control in every aspect and replace it with something else. Not saying Inhumans shouldn’t have been used bc “Xmen are better”, but it is clear in every aspect his goal was to force IPs down people’s throats to kill others. While AOS was on air there was a literal storyline in Xmen that said the gas that makes Inhumans kill mutants and killed some of the most popular Xmen. No longer selling toys, dvds, comics. The show basically screaming at you “Love these Inhumans!!!!”. Just caused so much chaos
Let’s not underestimate the amount of ego that grew in Fiege. He was the hero between the two to Marvel fans, but his behind the scenes moves(disbanding the council of marvel editors who advised him about storylines and continuity)is what messed up the later times in the MCU.
Let me state first that I enjoyed every season and watched it regularly through the entire run. There are episodes that didn't work as well (in every season) but most of them are still better than the average episodes of most other shows that were made in the same period. I thought Season 1 was a weaker season, but not because of "filler" episodes. Rather I had a hard time caring about two characters that the show really wanted me to love. Ward had the look of a leading man, but wasn't likable or interesting for most of the first season. Melinda had the same sort of abrasive personality and badass fighting ability with a lot more charm. So Ward was the less enjoyable character and was a duplicate type. Some may argue that Fitz and Simmons are duplicate types as well, but they have different skills and it's hard to say one is more likable than the other. Skye is introduced in the first episode and the story sets her up as a main character. But her place on the team is not very well defined. She's brought along and considered important because... well Phil says so. I had a hard time caring about Ward until he was revealed as a bad guy, and I wasn't much interested in Skye until halfway through Season 2. And they were put into a "will they/won't they" relationship, which was cliche since before either of the actors were born. I found scenes dealing with a cliche relationship between two characters that I wasn't interested in to be difficult to get through. And there were a lot of them in Season 1. The rest of the cast was good and the stories were great for early in the show while they were setting up the greater plot. Seasons 2, 3 and 4 get progressively better. Season 5 is a little off the rails, but not bad, and 6 and 7 tie everything up very well.
Wow, this is so much harder when you're so young and aren't a comic geek. Okay, first lesson - not one comic movie from Blade to Kickass has ever had much of an effect on comic sales. This includes the comic versions of all the movies. Because comics are one thing, the movies and TV shows are another. And I've been collecting comic since 1969 so I've been through this sort of thing. For example the 1970s Hulk TV show was hyper popular, but had no effect on the sales of the Hulk's own comics. The Batman TV show, the old Adam West one, was a hit with general audiences, and again had very little effect on the comic sales. And that last one has a lot of nuance to it. Okay, here's the one thing you (and everyone else who talks about this show and the MCU) forget or left out. His name is Ike Permutter. Every stumble you find with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., every time it did not connect to the movies - that was Ike Permutter. When Marvel stopped printing the Fantastic Four and X-men because they didn't want to give "free advertisement" to the movies whose rights were own by other studios - that was Ike Permutter. I mentionws that X-Men thing because Ike Permutter was so insane about it he actually tried to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans. (TLDR, the whole thing crashed and burned as it should have.) Here's the truth about the Inhumans. They've never been popular. In terms of popularity they were Z-List. Sometimes they had cool appearances and the occasional cool story, but they've never reached beyond that Z-List. Daisy Johnson, Quake was supposed to be a mutant. But thanks to Ike Permutter they insisted on making her an Inhuman in the show. And since Ike Pemutter was in charge of the TV show, they did it in the TV show. Okay, last deep geek dive. Daisy Johnson in the comic was the daughter of a super-villain name Mr. Hyde. Yes, as in Jeckle and Hyde. Only when he drank the formula he turned into a Hulk like dude who got beat up by every hero. He was a filler story. A villain that popped up between better storylines. And he was usually robbing a bank or a jewelry story. He wasn't popular enough to even be part of many super villain teams. Daisy Johnson was introduce in the mid-200s, and the explanation of her being a mutant was all those drugs Mr. Hyde took caused her to be born a mutant who could control vibrations. She could literally explode someone's heart with this power and she started out being Nick Fury's personal enforcer. In the show they kept some of her origin but they had to keep it within the show and Ike Permutter's mandate not to use mutants because another movie studio owned the X-Men. In other words Kevin Feigie had little to no control over what happened in the TV show. You cannot examine what happened with Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. without adding the horror show that was Ike Permutter. Good video. Wish there were more that talked about this show. I really enjoyed it.
Comics are definitely a blind spot of mine, so I did my best lol. But yeah I’m well aware of Perlmutter’s effect on Marvel; I’m leaving most of the discussion on that for the next video because I’ll be going into all of the corporate Marvel stuff and the way that affected Marvel TV there. Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I find it interesting that Ike Perlmutter’s blunders (Inhumans as X-Men in movies/shows/comics, AoS’s lack of connection w/ the main continuity after a while, an Inhumans movie, his r_cist comments about Terrence Howard aka the original Rhodes, etc.) are what are remembered and not what he accomplished: - got Marvel Studios off the ground - conceived the Phases 1-3 (which becomes very apparent once you get to Captain Marvel, the one movie Feige wanted the most) - enacted QUALITY CONTROL OVER THE MCU via Creative Committee - had F4/X-Men de-emphasized specifically to give Disney leverage over Fox for negotiations (which ultimately worked out in their favor) - pushed the core Avengers and adjacent characters specifically to build towards the bigger picture of the wider MCU (which people INCORRECTLY credit to Kevin Feige…who clearly knows just enough to make them different) …and a bunch of other stuff that the History Revisionists wouldn’t ever admit he did because he “donated to Orange Man Bad” 🤷🏽♂️ Once you got past Avengers: Endgame in the timeline, you get to the “Kevin Feige Era”, which began in earnest with Captain Marvel (which would’ve BOMBED, by then-Marvel Studios’s standards, had it not had the momentum from Infinity War). As we keep going along, we’re finding over and over that Feige is pretty incompetent…but to admit that would be to allow Perlmutter to “have a win”, so journalists and other such media talking heads who want favor with guys like Bob Iger wouldn’t dare do that. So they call it “Superhero Fatigue”… Edit: really thinking about it, it WOULD’VE BEEN VERY INTERESTING to see how Feige + whoever would’ve been the screenwriters & the director(s) would handle The Inhumans had Feige not committed utter subterfuge to derail the plan and have Bob Iger move it to Marvel Television (under Jeph Loeb) as to “ensure it actually happens” 😒 Regardless of whether or not the Inhumans were so maligned for the mandate that Perlmutter put in at the time, it’s really something that we should’ve seen from some incredibly talented & creative people make work. That in and of itself would not only serve as an easy launchpad for the F4…but also directly tie into Uatu The Watcher and other Silver Age characters (Impossible Man, maybe?!). Instead, every one wanted to shove it to the side because “THEY TRIED REPLACING THE X-MEN WITH THE INHUMANS!!!” Not only were the X-Men in one of their greatest slumps in their entire publication history (Jonathan Hickman referred to it as the Lost Generation in “House of X”)…but they actively couldn’t find anyone who could do a decent job with them until they promised the whole Mutant line to Hickman in 2018 (before they started the “Krakoa Era” in mid-2019) 🤷🏽♂️ No matter how you slice it, they just DID NOT HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR THE X-MEN and even their sales were in the toilet…so why even bother outside of merchandising?
@yeez13 Pretty sure I saw plenty of Perlmutter hate before he donated to Trump. More importantly, he didn't put any real effort into the projects that seemingly mattered to him. He wanted Inhumans to replace Xmen (just look at how Xmen got better at the exact time Marvel got them back from Fox), but refused to put any actual money into the project. The Iron Fist season 1 showrunner was selected because the netflix shows were running low on budget, and that season isn't good (season 2 slaps tho, don't @ me). Then, Ike brings the same guy back to do Inhumans-- the show Ike wants to be popular enough to rival Xmen. Heck, they shave Medusa because her hair is too expensive... If you want a project to succeed, you have to be willing to put in actual effort. PS. Captain Marvel was a good movie. Not great, but good.
Coulson, Fury, Hill, Sitwell, Blake, Lady Sif, Gideon Malik, and Dr List are all characters(played by same actor as well) that appeared in AoS and the MCU. Wonder if I missed any.
Never heard of this show even once before, but you better believe I'll watch a three hour video essay about it lmao. Excellent work, can't wait to see this channel flourish in the future.
This was a great video! A lot of strong, interesting points and analysis. I'm looking forward to the next entry. Also, I see that ace flag in the background. 👍
I was so happy that I got recommended this video because I love deep dives that are multiple hours long. I also thought this was the whole series and I’m extremely happy that you used 3+ hours only on seasons 1 and 2. Subscribed already sonó can come back when you upload again!
Pretty neat video. Maybe the only thing missing is some contemporary reception to the characters of Skye and Ward and how that shifted with time. Curious how things will play out for the later videos (especially the S5 part cause I got some serious salt on that one). For the record: S3>S2=S4>S1>>S7>S6>S5. Daisy best character. FitzSimmons were cool but later seasons really kind of made me hate them a little sadly (and that's the tip of the iceberg of issues with those seasons).. Hopefully some of the show's canon can be acknowledged in future MCU some day. Also, I would recommend watching at least Buffy/Angel and Firefly since those shows are pretty cool and the parallels with Agents of SHIELD are interesting (and Dollhouse too which had a lot of JedMo influence tho is better after those other shows I'd say).
This was a great vid! Love what you've done with the ultra long form format. Never considered AoS would work so well for it either! Been watching since day one and it was one of my guilty pleasure shows for a long time. Really enjoyed the vid and can't wait to see what you make next! For what it's worth, I got a playlist of ComicTube video essays and a subreddit for ComicTube vids, gonna submit it to both. Can't wait to see what you make next!!! I see a lot of potential in your channel, and you've got a lot of charisma!
I gotta thank you for making this!! This show was a hyperfixation a long time ago, I would rewatch the episodes you mentioned over and over so seeing someone else breakdown how cool they are is nice! I didn't end up keeping up with the last seasons so I'm hoping to see your analysis of them! Keep up the great work!
How did this show outlast the Marvel Netflix Defenders shows (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Punisher) and the Marvel Hulu shows (The Runaways, and Cloak & Daggar) is truly a mystery to us all. Man, remember when they were planning to do a Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider Spin Off? Good times…
Yet all the Netflix superheroes are probably eventually going to get recognized in the MCU but AOS will still be here collecting dust 😑. It’s a damn shame, imo
Just found this video... its great and you worked very hard.. I can see that. well... just to let you know.. i was here before it went viral... About the video, I never watched the show coz of the first half boring part and Yes, i was expecting sups and was disappointed that they were not present and later then they had sups in the show... it was too late to catchup.. i hope you do similar videos for other shows/movies like supernatural or vampire diaries etc etc
Great breakdown of one of my most favorite shows! One of the most fun I had during the early seasons was on the AV Club reviews for the show, especially all the different nicknames for Ward that were being started due to a lot of commenters finding him very bland at first (Beardy McBeardface was always circulating on there). I believe they're still up and I look back at them once and a while, time to check if they are! Also love your defense for the first half of season 1 not being filler. There are bits and pieces of that section that still become relevant SEASONS later, and a lot of the fallout of SHIELD would never have hit as hard as it does without it.
I got to the end of the video and then went to your channel page to watch more of your videos... There are very few youtubers out there that have only ONE video on their channel AND that video is highly successful. Salt fork comes to mind... are there others? anyway, good job making a video about a topic that I am absolutely nostalgic for. I can't wait for more videos because season 3 is maybe the best season (well, i mean they all are my favorite season, I couldn't possibly pick a favorite. season 4 is really good! also 5... and 7 is amazing... and my favorite characteris in 6) just a perfect storm of character development and world development... I honestly hoped that you would have gotten to season 6/7, because that's where the theories on how it's all connected get really interesting. But I trust you have the answer already.
I'm about an hour into your video, and I've already decided I need to go back and rewatch the series as a whole. I've seen it before, but just bit and pieces here and there, and I always kind of just thought of it as secondary to the MCU movies. Going to give it another go and just think of it more as its own entity. Great job! Your obviously genuine love of the show convinced at least one viewer to give it a second chance.
This was an amazing video! I only recently got into the mcu and was hesitant to watch agents of shield but I was genuinely so surprised when i started watching it, some of the best marvel television is in this show and it’s so worth it. You’re a really good video-essay-maker person, keep up the incredible work!
What is interesting about the Enchantress, is that in the comics they found out that the power of the Enchtantress doesn't work on Gay Men and does work on lesbians and bisexuality woman.
I love this show and have rewatched it MANY times. I love every time someone professes their love for it, even if I know everything they're going to say. It's a joy, thank you!
I literally typed in agents of shield retrospective and was not clicking on videos because they were too short so seeing 3 hours was pretty nice lol, rest of the seasons please! Great video :)
The video unlocked so many memories. I really did dig this show. I do feel like I skipped a season or two after Ghost Rider, so I'm especially excited to come back for your coverage of those seasons.
My mom never forgave them for killing off Trip. When all the old characters were coming back in the Framework, she was fully expecting him to come back and was so disappointed he didn't.
First video. Would never have guessed it by how comfortable you seem to be in front of a camera. Maybe you've done stuff on other platforms. Anyway, great video so far. You've got a real talent, i hope you nurture it.
Bestie I’ve watched this three times I need more ‼️‼️ (jk take your time I am eagerly awaiting what’s next i cant wait to see you blossom on this platform ✨)
>no prior uploads
>just under 1000 subscribers
>first video is a 3 hour essay about a TV show
We will be watching your career with great interest, miss Bee
damnit i was just gonna comment this palpatine quote too
Hey. Go hard or go home. She went hard.
And that Tv show being about Agents of Shield of all things. Like i love the show, it was just such of a pleasent suprise.
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A genuine shame the show haven't received its deserved attention in recent years
It really is! I keep hoping public perception of it will swing back around positively like it has with so many other past shows
Agreed. I've been watching it from day one and loving it. I hope people give it a chance some day. Way too many MCU fans gave up after a few episodes because Avengers didn't turn up every other week. This show is a lot better than what we've been getting from Marvel Studios in Disney+. I think they just need to stop being cowards and add it to the official timeline and call it cabin. They've done it with the Netflix shows. This and Agent Carter are the last 2 big ones to be added back into the MCU again
@@joevictor53 I think also there's a slight stigma with network TV shows ever since many people have moved on to streaming services and are used to getting shows of a higher caliber there. Most of the big TV show budgets are concentrated there now. Yet AoS quickly picked up the pace and a maintained a very consistent quality, especially for its series length.
My 2nd favourite show of all time personally
Daisy was done so dirty. and the cast in general, but damn why isnt daisy at least cameoing in avengers.
Also the show is an actual whednm show, without joss, thats actually great in femae empoewerment and diversity, aside the funny bit wher eonly a black main cast member can live early .
I love the Ward reveal so much. He's this typical brooding anti-hero and we learn his sad backstory and know why he has such a strong moral code and drive to help people. And then other shoe drops and you realise that a backstory like his doesn't always make heroes.
He was the golden boy, he was the big brother, he was the handsome brooding love interest. It deepens the character so much and the fact that none of those feeling were fake also puts this emotional vulnerability into him
SPOILERS FOR S4 (Didn't realize the video didn't cover this far into the story)
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Sometimes I still want to scream into my pillow over his Framework reversal, where he's still the turncoat but for the other side because a different mentor figure got to him first. He's always the traitor, but not always the villain
We used to call him Agent Bored in my circles while the show was on
dude, is this the agents of shield renaissance?!?!??
I hope so!
I’ve needed a long form video essay on Agents of SHIELD forever… legit my favorite marvel tv show
Mine too, the biggest highlight of the show was never having an status quo and use it in favor for clever plots
All of their characters should be integrated into the MCU. The actors in those roles did a lot of hard work and earned those characters.
Top 3 fav shows of all time
I have no idea why nobody else has done at least hour long essay on this show. And I watch multiple channels that do those sorts of things. It's well deserved.
SAME, BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG
Trip's death also causes Coulson to enact one of the sickest plans I've ever seen. Seeing the heads of Hydra all turn on each other is incredibly chilling and a great way to downsize them before the release of Age of Ultron
The one thing I would add about "Yes Men" is that there is some foreshadowing that i only caught during a re-watch. At the end of his fight with May, AFTER Sif has "muted" Lorelei, thus negating her mind control, he attempts to shoot May. Chronologically, he pulls the trigger after Lorelei's hold on him is broken. After his heel turn is revealed, it becomes obvious that he had orders to kill May. This was his chance and not be held responsible for it, thus keeping his cover intact..
I never want to be the person who argues about someone being raped, but I do believe the writer's intent of that episode was for us to realize later, after the big reveal, that he was never really being mind controlled (and therefore it wasn't rape) but like it was so messy and the choices made were not good it was probably best just to pretend it never happened
@@filo4000definitely was mind control
It’s also not a coincidence that the episode we first get some real details about Bahrain is an episode that involves mind control.
The fact that this is ONLY seasons 1-2 gave me flashbacks to Billiam's LOST series and QuintonReviews' videos LOL
As a big AOS fan, looking forward to the others!! 😄
Me waiting for updates on ANY of billiam/Quintons videos: 👀👀👀👀
Welcome to the club friend, can't wait for the next one
Edit to also mention Flaw Peacock, I kept hearing his "keep this in mind" through your video. Not a complaint in any way!! Love you both, and definitely recommend his channel if you haven't seen it before and are a fan of long reviews of video games ❤
Oh it gets so much better even, ok the season 3 has a bit in the end, but i still think its good and season 4 gets great
@@marocat4749 I think seasons 4, 5 and 7 are excellent, which makes season 6 even more disappointing. The only part I like about season 6 are the adventures in space. At least it's short.
@@AgusSkywalker ok i could compare season 6 to seson 6 to buffy, i think its great, but also, its divisive
The worst mistake of this show was try to appeal to cameos, connecting with the MCU and trying to keep up with the continuity. I wholeheartedly believe the best of Agents of SHIELD is when they stop caring and do their own thing in later seasons. Specially the time and space traveling
Yes, its way better when its not trying tio be canon, through i love sif, sif gets way more than in any thor movie here, and actually playing in the story.
Even then they still stayed true to the continuity they just weren’t as obvious about it
@@madnessarcade7447but it's pretty weird for shield to go public again and no one mentions it in the movies
i've wanted a quinton reviews-esque deep dive on aos for so long THANK YOU FOR THIS
I’m glad I reached my exact target audience!
The tie in for Age of Ultron was supposed to be a brief cameo of the AoS team on the helicarrier.
What’s the source for this ?
They could have just said the Enchantress' powers only worked on men because MAGIC. That's her power, to control men. They didn't have to have any reason other than magic.
Amen. During that time they were really pushing the idea of “Magic is just science we done understand!” which was a mistake clearly.
Magic didn't exist as a concept in the MCU at that point
That's why they made Asgardians have "Technology so advanced it seems like magic", and have them not be literal gods, just being from another dimension and humans thinking they where gods
@@jesusramirezromo2037 ok, replace "magic" with "testosterone"
The show only ever referred to it as a weakness men have. Never saw it as anything other than that, nothing connected to attraction.
Yeah, like scientifically men are just broken women.@@Dagenspear
It was the best show and I refuse to hear any criticism!
I watched this entire thing in one sitting
The show was even better as a weekly real time experience!
Yep, its so good, and i think season 1 is, ok its an introduction season, and daisy becomes really good and the cast is, through 4 onward is just greatness
@@marocat4749 I'd say S2-4 is the peak (S3 being my fav) and then it falls off with S5.
@@defrostedrobot77 I'd say S5 gets much better on a rewatch. S6 is probably the show's lowest point, before recovering quite well in S7, but any other TV show would kill to have something like AoS' S6 as their lowest point.
Do you not work.
I followed after watching this thinking you’d have a back log of video essays but this is literally your first one and I’m so impressed what the heck
Aw thank you! I put a lot of work into it so I’m glad that it paid off
Wait same though??? Okaaaaay girl work!
(Seriously girl work I need more content from you this was a great series breakdown and I need more)
@@emleighbee It definetly did. Its great.
to answer the question about how joss whedon-esque it is: in early season 1 it is very very very whedon flavoured. the monster of the week structure is so buffy coded, and raina's whole vibe really gives joss whedon wet dream pre season 2
I think , mostly due him being good at picking stuff and writers and that , thats wher ehe might added a lot. But its probably that a lot stuff from other whedon shows , bring that in. Like a lot is similar to other whedon shows,
And to be clear, aside season 3 later, way way better, especially in writing women, diversity , and feminism. In organic ways. The whedon stuff seems to be the real stuff of whedon shows :P
I think people criticizing the first half of season one for being filler are nuts. Episodes 1-9 are what really helps you get to know the team and to prove my point I will go through all of the first nine episodes to explain this
Episode one is focused on the team's formation
Episode two is about the team's flawed dynamic and how the six of them are in some ways similar but in others very different, culminating in them actually being a team
Episode three puts focus on Skye and Ward's trainer-trainee dynamic, gives us insight into Ward, has May getting through her aversion to being in the field, and introduces a major antagonist in Ian Quinn
Episode four and five are both main plot relevant and put focus on Coulson and Skye
Episode six puts the Fitzsimmons dynamic center stage and brings the team closer with this being the closest any of them gets to actually dying
Episode seven pairs Fitz and Ward, giving us more with their characters and gives us a look at big SHIELD and how the way they operate differs from the way Coulson does
Episode eight (one of my favorites of the show) puts Ward in center stage, giving us a deep look at the things that made him who he is, things that become very very relevant once it's revealed that he's a Hydra double agent
Episode nine does a similar thing for May and gives us a first look into why she's the ice queen we know and love plus it has one of the best scenes in the show (May's prank on Fitz)
To call these episodes just filler is ridiculous. They're episodes that help us to know the characters and understand who they are beyond just being SHIELD agents which is something I think later seasons lacked
Edit: I typed all this before you you did exactly what I did. I'm glad you and I agree lol
Also it wouldnt be a whedon show whjen season one isnt really not mosttly character moments and not in thre direction yet but build up.
Here is the funniest thing to me. Secret Invasion confirmed that Nick Fury was only ever sorta average, and only got his position and prominence due to a slave shapshifting spy army at his command. Coulson was given a fucking vibranium lego and rebuilt shield from the ground up without even having any funding.
A video essay one of the most forgotten but one of the best piece of marvel tv series ? sign me up.Its honestly annoying how much this show gets treated like a black ship of the family almost as if peopel above hated this show for some reason. strong first video i can assume even tho i didnt watch it whole yet
Especially when the show treats the storylines way way better than the movies for the most part. More coherent, its really nerdy about it in the best ways possible.
Its metter than mcu to be honest and them dpoing their thing with the stories is bette rthan the movies, how can people hate or dismiss it, when its way better personally. why do people hate it, its incredible intersting characters and , may and daisy are great superheroes.
love finally seeing the multi hour AOS video I've been wanting for years, heck yeah.
Also gotta love that Raina at the start loyally followed the Clairvoyant, convinced it was the real deal, only to be disappointed by Garrett when it all turned out to be fake, only for HER to become a real Clairvoyant.
She deserves it, to become it.
I am autistic and my special interest is AOS so you have NO IDEA how happy I am to have found a 3 hour long video essay about my niche little interest that nobody cares about 😭 Instantly subscribed
God same. Well it used to be my special interest and I started being more invested in some other media for a few years (also have ADHD so hop around sometimes lol) but I’m coming back around to AOS and this was the perfect thing to remind me of exactly why I loved this show soooo much. Fitzsimmons in particular have a hold on me like nothing else.
Me tooooooooo, but I got no one to talk about it
1:08:00 I just realized you're dressed like Simmons in S1 E6.
Golden.
Discovered the show during the pandemic, and it became my favorite show of all time
Thank you for this! As an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. fan, it was such an interesting and fun journey over the course of the show.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D is most definitely one of the best comic book shows of all time. It deserves recognition and love.
And I wholeheartedly believe the Secret Invasion story should've been told in an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D movie. Unfortunately Feige thought The Marvels was a better idea for some reason.
Honestly, the final season was basically Secret Invasion with robots instead of Skrulls.
@@Unversed333 that pillar of garbage video, that is good, its his channels name ... yes its basically, with the heartbreak.
@@marocat4749 uh, what are you referring to?
@@Unversed333 a channel that used the lmd stinvasion as comparison
@@marocat4749 stinvasion?
The fact that we still haven't gotten any more of Ghost Rider that got introduced on this show is honestly a crime against humanity.
I love Gabriel Luna so much!
1000%
It's too bad the Ghost Rider show he was planned for got cancelled.
The ghost reader could have helped against Thanos
@@goldenangel158helped man would of ended him on sight
My favourite character in all of media is fitz, he is just so amazingly written and acted and i wish the show was watched by more people so that he gets more recognition. Amazing video by the way, I await the next part with anticipation!
I wholeheartedly agree with your take on real shield. That storyline was so hypocritical. Saying Coulson can’t be reasoned with and that he’s compromised when he literally tried to reach out. And the real shield never even tried to approach Coulson and his team instead spied on them and took over the base before talking to Coulson and finding reasoning.
I watched every single episode of AoS with my parents on the night each one released up until I went to college, and after that we would have phone calls just to talk about it. This show is so near and dear to my heart, and I never hear anyone talking about it! Thank you for making this video. Genuinely.
The panic I felt when you said "thanks for watching" and I realized 3 hours had passed. I don't know how you have so few subscribers because this was a top tier video essay. I'll definitely stick around for the next parts.
FINALLY. Typing in "Agents of SHIELD retrospective" yields a nice long video put together by someone who clearly loves the show at least as much as I do! Thank you for taking so much time to give love to this incredible show, looking forward to seeing you cover the rest.
Genuinely shocked a big video essay of this quality is coming from such a small channel, that's so god damn awesome.
Omg yes, someone finally made a multi hour breakdown of the show, I am so excited for this. Also, fellow Ace I see!
Edit: OH OK, THIS IS PART ONE OF 3, LETS GOOOO
Yess, I just started rewatching it again so I am so happy to find this (the level of emotional attachment: still haven't watched the last season because I don't want the show to end)
Glad you did! And I totally get that, half of the reason I started making these videos was so I could find a way keep talking about the show after it ended
That is very smart, btw I was listening to this while doing chores and just burst out laughing anytime you put the uh-oh clip in so thank you for thatt xD @@emleighbee
@@ajdina56I’m just glad someone got the reference; I got a lot of joy out of putting that in there
@@emleighbee yeah it was hilarious, also finally managed to continue watching it (life shit) and I agree with your explanation of what happens after Skye's transformation. I saw Phil's decision to put Skye in the cabin as a way of trying to get some order and respect from the agents again (that way it made sense to me)
For your first major video, I thought this was very well done, well-researched, and well produced. As someone who watched this show consistently when it was on, it feels like time has almost completely forgotten about this show. Hell, Marvel nowadays pretends it never even happened (idk, maybe we'll see them pop up in some random Disney+ thing someday but I doubt it), so it's nice to see someone given the show some attention.
I hope you cover the later seasons down the line.
Probably one of the most criminally underrated motion picture ever created.
The AOS gang are my comfort characters. Fitzsimmons my beloved Marvel relationship.
AT LAST!! An AoS video was much needed. The mcu got all its cool stuff from AoS and you can’t prove me wrong. Yes it wasn’t great but it paved the way for mcu peak concepts
You are still canon in my heart Agents of Shield
As someone who watched Agents of SHIELD from the very start and was initially excited about the #ItsAllConnected aspect of it, but slowly fell in love with its own world and characters, it's really nice seeing this show being so appreciated and loved in hindsight. The "small but dedicated fanbase" has been here all along!
Great video, can't wait for the next parts! That being said, please never use that Rock Band mic again x)
A brilliant well written show that never got the attention and popularity it deserved.
Part of the reason they killed off Trip was that BJ Britt got a starring gig on another show.
you're making me want to rewatch this series dear gods. i forgot how much this show changed me as a kid, i watched it as it was coming out
The description reading "This is the first part" when it's three hours long fill me with fear.
This video is making me miss agents of shield, what a great show it was.
Wow. The algorithm has really served me well today. Agents of shield is my favorite marvel show as of right now. I've been with it since 2015 when I found the show at my grandparents and been with it ever since and sad when it ended. Even when the Netflix shows were starting to kick off like Daredevil(I haven't seen it even to this day but i heard good things) I've just been on the Shield train and nothing else. I loved at the time how early on it connected to the bigger mcu, though obviously upset when it starts to be less connected. However nowadays I dont want them to touch this show with how bad marvel has been in recent years with continuity and destroying characters, and even with this show in the last season when it decided to do TIME TRAVEL so that alone would contradicts something but i digress. So just inserting it now late in the game wouldnt work as much i would've wanted to connected to the MCU early on. Coulson is mvp. I've always called him the underrated avenger. Seems like we will be expecting more videos. Can't wait to see them since we'll be looking at my favorite season of the show, season 4💙. And plenty more shenanigans moving forward.
These are my favorite kind of long-form "unhinged recap"; a show that I watched every week for the first few series then dropped off it. I think it got moved around the schedule here in the UK and I lost track of it so it's lovely to see a retrospective like this 💖
I stuck with the show from day one. Even though the mid-season breaks felt like a full year and season 3 the connectivity to the MCU became tenuiius at best. I just the entire show as being stories told of an alternate timeline, which the show eventual did. Great coverage keep up the outstanding work.❤
i watched the show after its ending, and honestly? to this day i see it as one of marvels crowning achievements of a series, better than most of the d+ content they've been giving us nowadays, ive been obsessed with this show since i started and its crazy that it's taken me so long to find people with the same mind on that...
all this to say, thank you for making me a 3 hour long essay !!
Even daisy, she is so good of a character, if annoying at first but that makes her growth so rewarding and good.
And it might be the most feminist whedon show yet too :P The show gets even better going off on its own.. And that finale, i mean 5 , through season 6 is great , 5 is a good finale. And how its good for the show, given what came out about joss, i think its a whedon show without the downfalls as he did probably got a lot talent on bioard and , not make it toxic.
Ward is great as commentary, lol , he is great, but also a great toxic masculinity showcase.
So happy the algorithm decided to show me this video essay. I love Agents of Shield so much and no one ever talks about it! And you did such a good job! I can’t believe this is your first UA-cam video.
Keep it up! Can’t wait to see what you do next ❤
This is such an excellent dissection of the show. I'm so glad to finally see someone else talking about it!
Loved the video! I would say something more, but I'll leave that for when part II (or III) comes out, so, for now, I can only say that Agents of SHIELD is still the best and longest-running Marvel show, so much so that only watching the clips in this essay made me tear up more than once.
Excited to see the next videos!
🖤🩶🤍💜
Glad someone is talking about this show, the actors deserve a lot more recognition for their great performances throughout the series especially iain decaestecker and elizabeth henstridge. This is one of my favourite mcu products. Honestly, its a bit of a rollercoaster but the biggest thing I enjoy is how it balanaces these grounded emotional moments with a fun but insane comic book weirdness.
My favorite part of the Hydra reveal in season one is the scenes between Trip and Simmons. Seeing Simmons' fear and feeling scared for her alone with this character we barely know during the most tense episode of the show, only for him to immediately choose to try to trust her and hand her his knife as a symbol of that trust immediately solidified him as one of my favorite characters in the show. I was genuinely devastated when he died in season 2.
The Clairvoyant/Hydra twist is honestly probably my favorite twist in any Marvel media. Sure, the same twist happened in Winter Soldier as well, but seeing it from the "boots on the ground" perspective made it hit so much harder. The MCU needs more stories about the non-super people who come face-to-face with the fantastical events of the franchise.
Also, this is a fantastic video essay. It's also one of the better ones about Marvel that I have ever seen. The fact that it's this Channel's first video essay is absolutely bonkers and I'm really looking forward to your next one.
PLEASE do a video on "filler". I think we all need that at this point.
I miss Agents of SHIELD because it was so much better than what Marvel is doing right now. My favorite story arcs were the Hydra takeover and Ghost Rider.
HOW DOES IT HAVE DOUBLE THE EPISODES, BETTER CGI AND BETTER STORY???? and disney has a MILLION different television companies including ABC!!!! use them
this show had its ups and downs but man the Ward heel turn when Hydra was revealed was genuinely so great - shades of an evil Cap whenever I was watching him during that arc
My god, it's refreshing to see a younger person actually esteem long-term story setup and character development. I am SO sick of the "filler" whining. Hell, I'm SO sick of ALL the whining. Critique is valid... when done by someone who's educated in storytelling, especially stories told in a particular medium the critic actually has a deep knowledge of. But rando neckbeards who, not always but far too often, are just incels and racists who shield their vitriol behind bogus claims of "valid criticism, are NOT valid critics. They're just not.
Anyway, let me stop ranting and return to praising your earnest and sincere energy here. I usually don't give smaller channels a chance, and that's clearly a bias I need to get past, because I'm less than an hour into your video, and you already sold me!
Keep up the fantastic work!!!
Thank you so much, this means a lot to me!
It’s one reason I say criticism is broken. It’s too often like people with no artistic talent hanging out at the Louvre, muttering “ Well, I wouldn’t have painted it like THAT.”
Saying something is “bad writing” without explaining what the heck they mean.
Deciding that their experience watching things in any way gives them what they need to rewrite what other people have done, to suit themselves, without actually knowing how much work goes into crafting the original narrative. Backseat writing by people who’ve only ever watched, who’ve never written anything.
This show was brilliant.
Librals 😂
Agents of shield will never be forgotten
Round of applause to you my friend, this video is phenomenally well made, especially for being your first video. Extremely well researched, I love how you have people reading out the quotes and your sources are on screen and very clear in the description. I love that you got the persepctive of another person who was there when the show was running and could provide insight on what it was like to be following the show from day one. I love how you cover each episode and each character so in-depth and you aren't afraid to both bash the characters who deserve it and giving grace or sympathy to some of the worst of people. And I love how you very rightfully tore Gonzales apart, I hate that pathetic little man (with all the respect in the world to his actor, it's a credit to his talent that he can make him so hateable) and he deserved to be ripped a new one. You've definitely earned my sub and I cannot wait for the next video!
Thank you. ❤
AoS is still one of the best Marvel series and one of the most offbeat. I wasn't impressed with S1 but understood it was stuck marking time , then S2 came along, they started launching their own storylines and it took off. I think it was one of the most inventive shows since they were constantly reinventing the story and there were some really brilliant storylines. Compared to what later came on Disney +, AoS can hold its head high.
currently watching the beginning of this video still but i just wanna say i’m so excited about it!!!!!!
i feel like it’s not only the mcu that treats aos like it never existed or isn’t important, a lot of the wider fanbase does as well 🥹 so it’s very exciting to see a video about this show.
despite all its flaws i love aos wholeheartedly and it sucks that it gets paid dust when imho it had better characters with fully fleshed out arcs than the movies ever did. and it accomplished that while being actively on the chopping block for most of its run
This randomly came up on my recommended and I'm very glad it did, I absolutely love Agents of Shield so much and I'm so glad this video exists. I'm looking forward to more stuff from you. Keep it up. 👍
Glad we got to my single biggest problem with the Rival SHIELDs plotline, that such a major chunk of it got entirely resolved in a movie that did not feature or even mention a single character or plot point from the show. We go from "May feels betrayed enough to turn on Coulson, who is now under arrest" to "Everyone's friends and Coulson runs both SHIELDs" just because Age of Ultron happened. Might not be my least favourite forced tie-in to the movies, but the most narratively frustrating.
Also I did very much love this show despite some recurring problems I had with it and look forward to the next instalments of this video. We haven't even reached my favourite season yet.
This video unlocked something in my brain that has remained dormant for YEARS due to extreme Marvel fatigue. I had forgotten how much I had loved this show! I watched the first 2 seasons but dropped off after that when I started college and. didn't have cable or time.
The fact that this is your first video is AMAZING. 1000/10 will absolutely be watching this again, instant subscribe!
Loved the genuine passion, effort and professionalism you put into this video.
This TV show is so underrated, and it felt like I was the only one that kept watching (at least in my social circle).
I'm excited to see what's next on your channel!
I’ve been a fan of AOS for years and I still vividly remember my initial reaction to (SPOILER)
Ward…one of the best plot twists I’ve ever seen in tv honestly the character development and the relationship building really struck me as authentic and that switch felt so creepy and unnatural but at the same time made total sense somehow!
I’m so glad this show has been brought back into the light (wondering if Daisy Johnson’s rumored appearances had to do with that)
This video was great!!! I can’t wait to see more!!
I know you said you are going to do a future video on Corp Marvel and I look forward to that. As another poster said…. You cant really explain all the issues with AOS without the insanity of Permutter. Just his over the top zealotry to bury anything that Disney didnt own and control in every aspect and replace it with something else. Not saying Inhumans shouldn’t have been used bc “Xmen are better”, but it is clear in every aspect his goal was to force IPs down people’s throats to kill others. While AOS was on air there was a literal storyline in Xmen that said the gas that makes Inhumans kill mutants and killed some of the most popular Xmen. No longer selling toys, dvds, comics. The show basically screaming at you “Love these Inhumans!!!!”. Just caused so much chaos
Let’s not underestimate the amount of ego that grew in Fiege. He was the hero between the two to Marvel fans, but his behind the scenes moves(disbanding the council of marvel editors who advised him about storylines and continuity)is what messed up the later times in the MCU.
Let me state first that I enjoyed every season and watched it regularly through the entire run. There are episodes that didn't work as well (in every season) but most of them are still better than the average episodes of most other shows that were made in the same period.
I thought Season 1 was a weaker season, but not because of "filler" episodes. Rather I had a hard time caring about two characters that the show really wanted me to love.
Ward had the look of a leading man, but wasn't likable or interesting for most of the first season. Melinda had the same sort of abrasive personality and badass fighting ability with a lot more charm. So Ward was the less enjoyable character and was a duplicate type. Some may argue that Fitz and Simmons are duplicate types as well, but they have different skills and it's hard to say one is more likable than the other.
Skye is introduced in the first episode and the story sets her up as a main character. But her place on the team is not very well defined. She's brought along and considered important because... well Phil says so.
I had a hard time caring about Ward until he was revealed as a bad guy, and I wasn't much interested in Skye until halfway through Season 2. And they were put into a "will they/won't they" relationship, which was cliche since before either of the actors were born. I found scenes dealing with a cliche relationship between two characters that I wasn't interested in to be difficult to get through. And there were a lot of them in Season 1.
The rest of the cast was good and the stories were great for early in the show while they were setting up the greater plot. Seasons 2, 3 and 4 get progressively better. Season 5 is a little off the rails, but not bad, and 6 and 7 tie everything up very well.
Wow, this is so much harder when you're so young and aren't a comic geek. Okay, first lesson - not one comic movie from Blade to Kickass has ever had much of an effect on comic sales. This includes the comic versions of all the movies. Because comics are one thing, the movies and TV shows are another. And I've been collecting comic since 1969 so I've been through this sort of thing. For example the 1970s Hulk TV show was hyper popular, but had no effect on the sales of the Hulk's own comics. The Batman TV show, the old Adam West one, was a hit with general audiences, and again had very little effect on the comic sales. And that last one has a lot of nuance to it. Okay, here's the one thing you (and everyone else who talks about this show and the MCU) forget or left out. His name is Ike Permutter. Every stumble you find with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., every time it did not connect to the movies - that was Ike Permutter. When Marvel stopped printing the Fantastic Four and X-men because they didn't want to give "free advertisement" to the movies whose rights were own by other studios - that was Ike Permutter. I mentionws that X-Men thing because Ike Permutter was so insane about it he actually tried to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans. (TLDR, the whole thing crashed and burned as it should have.) Here's the truth about the Inhumans. They've never been popular. In terms of popularity they were Z-List. Sometimes they had cool appearances and the occasional cool story, but they've never reached beyond that Z-List. Daisy Johnson, Quake was supposed to be a mutant. But thanks to Ike Permutter they insisted on making her an Inhuman in the show. And since Ike Pemutter was in charge of the TV show, they did it in the TV show. Okay, last deep geek dive. Daisy Johnson in the comic was the daughter of a super-villain name Mr. Hyde. Yes, as in Jeckle and Hyde. Only when he drank the formula he turned into a Hulk like dude who got beat up by every hero. He was a filler story. A villain that popped up between better storylines. And he was usually robbing a bank or a jewelry story. He wasn't popular enough to even be part of many super villain teams. Daisy Johnson was introduce in the mid-200s, and the explanation of her being a mutant was all those drugs Mr. Hyde took caused her to be born a mutant who could control vibrations. She could literally explode someone's heart with this power and she started out being Nick Fury's personal enforcer. In the show they kept some of her origin but they had to keep it within the show and Ike Permutter's mandate not to use mutants because another movie studio owned the X-Men. In other words Kevin Feigie had little to no control over what happened in the TV show. You cannot examine what happened with Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. without adding the horror show that was Ike Permutter. Good video. Wish there were more that talked about this show. I really enjoyed it.
Comics are definitely a blind spot of mine, so I did my best lol. But yeah I’m well aware of Perlmutter’s effect on Marvel; I’m leaving most of the discussion on that for the next video because I’ll be going into all of the corporate Marvel stuff and the way that affected Marvel TV there. Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I find it interesting that Ike Perlmutter’s blunders (Inhumans as X-Men in movies/shows/comics, AoS’s lack of connection w/ the main continuity after a while, an Inhumans movie, his r_cist comments about Terrence Howard aka the original Rhodes, etc.) are what are remembered and not what he accomplished:
- got Marvel Studios off the ground
- conceived the Phases 1-3 (which becomes very apparent once you get to Captain Marvel, the one movie Feige wanted the most)
- enacted QUALITY CONTROL OVER THE MCU via Creative Committee
- had F4/X-Men de-emphasized specifically to give Disney leverage over Fox for negotiations (which ultimately worked out in their favor)
- pushed the core Avengers and adjacent characters specifically to build towards the bigger picture of the wider MCU (which people INCORRECTLY credit to Kevin Feige…who clearly knows just enough to make them different)
…and a bunch of other stuff that the History Revisionists wouldn’t ever admit he did because he “donated to Orange Man Bad” 🤷🏽♂️
Once you got past Avengers: Endgame in the timeline, you get to the “Kevin Feige Era”, which began in earnest with Captain Marvel (which would’ve BOMBED, by then-Marvel Studios’s standards, had it not had the momentum from Infinity War). As we keep going along, we’re finding over and over that Feige is pretty incompetent…but to admit that would be to allow Perlmutter to “have a win”, so journalists and other such media talking heads who want favor with guys like Bob Iger wouldn’t dare do that. So they call it “Superhero Fatigue”…
Edit: really thinking about it, it WOULD’VE BEEN VERY INTERESTING to see how Feige + whoever would’ve been the screenwriters & the director(s) would handle The Inhumans had Feige not committed utter subterfuge to derail the plan and have Bob Iger move it to Marvel Television (under Jeph Loeb) as to “ensure it actually happens” 😒
Regardless of whether or not the Inhumans were so maligned for the mandate that Perlmutter put in at the time, it’s really something that we should’ve seen from some incredibly talented & creative people make work. That in and of itself would not only serve as an easy launchpad for the F4…but also directly tie into Uatu The Watcher and other Silver Age characters (Impossible Man, maybe?!). Instead, every one wanted to shove it to the side because “THEY TRIED REPLACING THE X-MEN WITH THE INHUMANS!!!”
Not only were the X-Men in one of their greatest slumps in their entire publication history (Jonathan Hickman referred to it as the Lost Generation in “House of X”)…but they actively couldn’t find anyone who could do a decent job with them until they promised the whole Mutant line to Hickman in 2018 (before they started the “Krakoa Era” in mid-2019) 🤷🏽♂️
No matter how you slice it, they just DID NOT HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR THE X-MEN and even their sales were in the toilet…so why even bother outside of merchandising?
@yeez13 Pretty sure I saw plenty of Perlmutter hate before he donated to Trump.
More importantly, he didn't put any real effort into the projects that seemingly mattered to him. He wanted Inhumans to replace Xmen (just look at how Xmen got better at the exact time Marvel got them back from Fox), but refused to put any actual money into the project. The Iron Fist season 1 showrunner was selected because the netflix shows were running low on budget, and that season isn't good (season 2 slaps tho, don't @ me). Then, Ike brings the same guy back to do Inhumans-- the show Ike wants to be popular enough to rival Xmen. Heck, they shave Medusa because her hair is too expensive... If you want a project to succeed, you have to be willing to put in actual effort.
PS. Captain Marvel was a good movie. Not great, but good.
Coulson, Fury, Hill, Sitwell, Blake, Lady Sif, Gideon Malik, and Dr List are all characters(played by same actor as well) that appeared in AoS and the MCU. Wonder if I missed any.
Agent Carter and The Howling Commandos.
The President is the same in both as well.
Never heard of this show even once before, but you better believe I'll watch a three hour video essay about it lmao.
Excellent work, can't wait to see this channel flourish in the future.
i never expected to find a video about agents of shield but i am here for it, hope that the next part come out soon
This was a great video! A lot of strong, interesting points and analysis. I'm looking forward to the next entry. Also, I see that ace flag in the background. 👍
I was so happy that I got recommended this video because I love deep dives that are multiple hours long. I also thought this was the whole series and I’m extremely happy that you used 3+ hours only on seasons 1 and 2. Subscribed already sonó can come back when you upload again!
Pretty neat video. Maybe the only thing missing is some contemporary reception to the characters of Skye and Ward and how that shifted with time. Curious how things will play out for the later videos (especially the S5 part cause I got some serious salt on that one).
For the record: S3>S2=S4>S1>>S7>S6>S5. Daisy best character. FitzSimmons were cool but later seasons really kind of made me hate them a little sadly (and that's the tip of the iceberg of issues with those seasons).. Hopefully some of the show's canon can be acknowledged in future MCU some day.
Also, I would recommend watching at least Buffy/Angel and Firefly since those shows are pretty cool and the parallels with Agents of SHIELD are interesting (and Dollhouse too which had a lot of JedMo influence tho is better after those other shows I'd say).
fantastic overview of the series. can't wait for the other two videos, take your time with them :)
I hadn't been planning on rewatching this show. Those plans have changed. Thank you for your awesome video and I look forward to the next one.
This was a great vid! Love what you've done with the ultra long form format. Never considered AoS would work so well for it either! Been watching since day one and it was one of my guilty pleasure shows for a long time. Really enjoyed the vid and can't wait to see what you make next! For what it's worth, I got a playlist of ComicTube video essays and a subreddit for ComicTube vids, gonna submit it to both. Can't wait to see what you make next!!! I see a lot of potential in your channel, and you've got a lot of charisma!
I gotta thank you for making this!! This show was a hyperfixation a long time ago, I would rewatch the episodes you mentioned over and over so seeing someone else breakdown how cool they are is nice! I didn't end up keeping up with the last seasons so I'm hoping to see your analysis of them! Keep up the great work!
How did this show outlast the Marvel Netflix Defenders shows (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Punisher) and the Marvel Hulu shows (The Runaways, and Cloak & Daggar) is truly a mystery to us all. Man, remember when they were planning to do a Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider Spin Off? Good times…
Yet all the Netflix superheroes are probably eventually going to get recognized in the MCU but AOS will still be here collecting dust 😑. It’s a damn shame, imo
@@jessicamagri8211 I remember there were rumors that Quake was gonna show up in Secret Invasion.
I remember the Fitz in WandaVision.@@comixproviderftw_02
Just found this video... its great and you worked very hard.. I can see that.
well... just to let you know.. i was here before it went viral...
About the video, I never watched the show coz of the first half boring part and Yes, i was expecting sups and was disappointed that they were not present and later then they had sups in the show... it was too late to catchup..
i hope you do similar videos for other shows/movies like supernatural or vampire diaries etc etc
Thank you! I’m not 100% sure what my plans are for future videos, but I’m definitely planning on doing more
The captions on the promo pictures are absolutely wonderful thank you ✨
Great breakdown of one of my most favorite shows! One of the most fun I had during the early seasons was on the AV Club reviews for the show, especially all the different nicknames for Ward that were being started due to a lot of commenters finding him very bland at first (Beardy McBeardface was always circulating on there). I believe they're still up and I look back at them once and a while, time to check if they are!
Also love your defense for the first half of season 1 not being filler. There are bits and pieces of that section that still become relevant SEASONS later, and a lot of the fallout of SHIELD would never have hit as hard as it does without it.
I got to the end of the video and then went to your channel page to watch more of your videos...
There are very few youtubers out there that have only ONE video on their channel AND that video is highly successful. Salt fork comes to mind... are there others? anyway, good job making a video about a topic that I am absolutely nostalgic for. I can't wait for more videos because season 3 is maybe the best season (well, i mean they all are my favorite season, I couldn't possibly pick a favorite. season 4 is really good! also 5... and 7 is amazing... and my favorite characteris in 6) just a perfect storm of character development and world development...
I honestly hoped that you would have gotten to season 6/7, because that's where the theories on how it's all connected get really interesting. But I trust you have the answer already.
I'm about an hour into your video, and I've already decided I need to go back and rewatch the series as a whole. I've seen it before, but just bit and pieces here and there, and I always kind of just thought of it as secondary to the MCU movies. Going to give it another go and just think of it more as its own entity. Great job! Your obviously genuine love of the show convinced at least one viewer to give it a second chance.
This was an amazing video! I only recently got into the mcu and was hesitant to watch agents of shield but I was genuinely so surprised when i started watching it, some of the best marvel television is in this show and it’s so worth it. You’re a really good video-essay-maker person, keep up the incredible work!
What is interesting about the Enchantress, is that in the comics they found out that the power of the Enchtantress doesn't work on Gay Men and does work on lesbians and bisexuality woman.
This show is what started my (mild) obsession with Ming-Na Wen. Easily my wcw. Also Fitz-Simmons is otp af.
I love this show and have rewatched it MANY times. I love every time someone professes their love for it, even if I know everything they're going to say. It's a joy, thank you!
Love the deep dive, in fact, I’m going to have to pause it to go finish the last 2 seasons of the show so I can appreciate it more
I literally typed in agents of shield retrospective and was not clicking on videos because they were too short so seeing 3 hours was pretty nice lol, rest of the seasons please! Great video :)
Im so excited to see more long form agents of shield content!! I host an AOS podcast and I'm always searching for other's takes on it
THE VIDEO I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED!!!! I love my UA-cam algorithm so much!
The video unlocked so many memories. I really did dig this show. I do feel like I skipped a season or two after Ghost Rider, so I'm especially excited to come back for your coverage of those seasons.
Thank you for making this. I watched Agents of SHIELD as it came out, and it's fun to go back now and see how things happened.
My mom never forgave them for killing off Trip. When all the old characters were coming back in the Framework, she was fully expecting him to come back and was so disappointed he didn't.
Almost three and a half hours on just season 1 and 2 alone? You've earned yourself a subscriber with that one.
First video. Would never have guessed it by how comfortable you seem to be in front of a camera. Maybe you've done stuff on other platforms. Anyway, great video so far. You've got a real talent, i hope you nurture it.
as someone who rewatches aos all the time, i literally havent watched the sif episode more than once. i just look up the important clips off youtube
Lmaooo
Bestie I’ve watched this three times I need more ‼️‼️ (jk take your time I am eagerly awaiting what’s next i cant wait to see you blossom on this platform ✨)