Has the Gaza Pier Been Beached? | Army Watercraft come ashore off Gaza and Israel

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  • Gaza Pier Beached?
    What's Going on With Shipping?
    May 26, 2024
    In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the weather and conditions that led to several Army watercraft coming ashore in Gaza and Israel.
    #gaza #gazapier #jlots #army #navy #shipping #watercraft
    00:00 What is JLOTS?
    12:12 Army Watercraft Ashore
    17:17 Alternate Scenario to Current JLOTS
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    High Sea states impact Army Vessels
    www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-R...
    Vessels Used For Delivering Aid To Gaza Via U.S.-Built Pier Run Aground
    gcaptain.com/vessels-used-for...
    Opening Video Report From Trey Yingst
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    Photos of Army Watercraft Ashore in Israel
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  • @wgowshipping
    @wgowshipping  23 дні тому +20

    🚨Latest information has part of the Trident Pier now coming ashore in Israel. The section is probably either the beach or sea end of the Trident Pier, with a load of equipment and vehicles on board. See the images and my analysis at:
    twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1795165551024607743🚨

    • @derek6579
      @derek6579 23 дні тому

      Shame!

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 23 дні тому

      Do you have any info about a cargo ship sinking in the Caribbean? Apparently this was a sail vessel that got in a Storm off the Bahamas? 2-crew missing.

    • @SteamCrane
      @SteamCrane 23 дні тому

      @@WALTERBROADDUS Saw something briefly about it. Somebody's idea to be "green", without the skills to not sink.

    • @j.sarnak1391
      @j.sarnak1391 23 дні тому

      I had to come and watch you try to put lipstick on this pig

    • @rowanimohdrawi8180
      @rowanimohdrawi8180 22 дні тому +2

      Already deleted from twitter

  • @1RecluseBrown
    @1RecluseBrown 24 дні тому +633

    In sailing parlance, we call this a clusterfuck.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  24 дні тому +81

      Yes we do.

    • @randywise5241
      @randywise5241 24 дні тому +14

      Googins.

    • @keithhigh7773
      @keithhigh7773 24 дні тому

      Brit here.
      In any parlance it is a clusterfuck.
      I hope your military has a truly open de- brief when this fiasco is over. I cannot believe that we are 80 years beyond DDAY, no lessons seem to have been learnt. Heads should roll.

    • @timl8258
      @timl8258 24 дні тому +62

      30 years of naval experience here and I've seen clusterfucks much more successful than this.

    • @donalddodson7365
      @donalddodson7365 24 дні тому +42

      I believe that is from the French "clusteau" (cavitating futility) and "fugue" (music seemingly going in separate directions). ... 🤥🫥😶

  • @BillO964
    @BillO964 24 дні тому +435

    In my time in the Navy, we called this a FLAIL-EX.
    A bunch of military officers running around in ever decreasing circles until they disappeared up their own asses.

    • @donalddodson7365
      @donalddodson7365 24 дні тому +20

      😂🤣😎🫡

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 24 дні тому +25

      I remember the phrase "group grope" - A bunch of people or ships milling about smartly for the designated period of time. After which everyone would return to their home port, and if no one was killed, regardless of mission outcome, it would be declared "Successful!!!" (with that number of exclamation points).

    • @timothymccoy1569
      @timothymccoy1569 24 дні тому +9

      Air Force has the same EX.

    • @somedumbozzie1539
      @somedumbozzie1539 24 дні тому +5

      Instructions unclear: Please provide detailed diagrams and if possible video.

    • @calparsons2502
      @calparsons2502 24 дні тому +6

      Sounds about right for Government work

  • @MakerMadness
    @MakerMadness 24 дні тому +151

    Engineer here. I was really disappointed to see that they went with this non-elevated (aka floating) pier system. A floating pier with no break-water protection has trouble written all over it (in my opinion)

    • @1RecluseBrown
      @1RecluseBrown 24 дні тому +21

      I've stayed in hotels along that shoreline for intelligence conferences in Israel before, and I am also a former sailor. Had my own sailboats for thirty years. When I saw the planned CONOPS, all I could imagine were all the moveable parts along with objects on top of them and vessels alongside pitching in the heavy wind and sea states. That along with incoming HAMAS rockets. What a, well, cluster fuck!

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 24 дні тому

      ​@@1RecluseBrownHamas are not going to be firing on aid. Munitions for IDF maybe but not aid.

    • @tmzz3609
      @tmzz3609 23 дні тому +21

      You don't need to be an engineer to see how idiotic this is........
      There are roads/border crossings leading into Gaza from both Israel and Egypt. Both are countries the US gives billions of per year to. They need to just deliver through the literal border crossings be closed by Israel.

    • @spamfilter32
      @spamfilter32 23 дні тому

      The piers sole purpose was to funnel 300 million dollars of tax payer money to a Biden Billionare donor. Hence, making it well constructed was never a consideration.

    • @markmcarthy596
      @markmcarthy596 23 дні тому

      The ignorance of modern leadership has reached the pinnacle-only the more ignorant listen now

  • @michaelleonard7579
    @michaelleonard7579 24 дні тому +196

    Since the nineties, common sense and remembering History has left the military leadership.

    • @joshshepherd5660
      @joshshepherd5660 24 дні тому +20

      You spelled "Been systematically removed from" incorrectly. Happy to assist friend!

    • @ericluffy7970
      @ericluffy7970 24 дні тому +4

      Hillarious that ELCAS-M been gone for 2 years and no effort to being back for this. This whole process has been a dog and pony show.

    • @Past10Performance
      @Past10Performance 24 дні тому

      Every war the US has ever won has been won by logistics. It is sad to see something so simple handled so poorly

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 24 дні тому +4

      @@ericluffy7970 I don't think the military shoulders the blame. It goes right to the top.

    • @joshshepherd5660
      @joshshepherd5660 24 дні тому +3

      @ericluffy7970 I was just reading about how the one they build in Kuwait in 03 took 75 seabees, 13 days. 32ft wide, 1800ft long. But the one they tried to build on anzio beach was like 72ft wide and can go out as far as 3000ft. No time table given. Just a start month. The other relevant point...in 2015 there were only 80 sailors qualified to do the install...given the threat profile of our adversaries/potential adversaries....I would assume since then that number has gone up...but...if we got rid of the system
      ...that wouldnt matter much...I would hope they have a replacement in mind orrrrrrr...........maybe a contractor solution??

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 24 дні тому +355

    the most expensive and least effective, volume wise, this is a symbolic act. Gaza received 1000 trucks a day, overland, to feed it population before this military catastrophe.

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 24 дні тому

      Yep, there's THOUSANDS of trucks absolutely full of aid waiting at the Rafah crossing trucks being refused entry and turned away by the IDF, including US military trucks. All Biden has to do is say let the trucks in or the money and weapons stop and the crisis will be over in 20 minutes. This is a completely absurd boondoggle putting our servicemen in harms way and costing us billions for nothing other than virtue signaling with absolutely no value whatsoever - and Israel has been refusing to allow aid in from the pier too!

    • @michaelhogan4337
      @michaelhogan4337 24 дні тому +19

      Question? How much is military Aid, and how much is humanitarian aid? And how is the Aid ,if any, distributed?

    • @rosskstar
      @rosskstar 24 дні тому

      Just watch, ultimately they'll offer to take refugees... somewhere.

    • @AdastraRecordings
      @AdastraRecordings 24 дні тому +75

      It's not even successful as PR, it's an abject disaster.

    • @coachwendy5618
      @coachwendy5618 24 дні тому +25

      As predicted by most who understand the system.

  • @davidlawton7845
    @davidlawton7845 24 дні тому +79

    I was an amphibious beach unit expert with the Royal Marines ; we never beached our landing craft without a BARV…Beach Armoured Recovery vehicle, its job was to push beached landing craft or pontoons which have broached or aground.

    • @mrjumbly2338
      @mrjumbly2338 24 дні тому +5

      Hippo BRV? does the USA have an equivalent?

    • @LIamaLlama554
      @LIamaLlama554 24 дні тому +1

      And it is a modified bulldozer

    • @davidlawton7845
      @davidlawton7845 24 дні тому +7

      @@mrjumbly2338 . The BARV was a modified centurion tank , the barrel was removed and a “ Bull nose “ fitted to the bow : This gave a pushing power of 52 tons and was ideal for these sort of operations. The crew were a mix or Army and Royal Marines. The BARV was used during the landings in the Falkland Islands..

    • @richardkroll2269
      @richardkroll2269 20 днів тому

      @@mrjumbly2338 Yes, but i9t was back in the states.

  • @rickc4317
    @rickc4317 24 дні тому +122

    The "expert" bureaucrats that planned and are running the operation are more concerned with notoriety and the visual aspect than really getting anything done in an efficient manner. "See we fixed it! See how great we are!"

    • @KermitFrazierdotcom
      @KermitFrazierdotcom 24 дні тому +4

      Designed by "Engineers" who can't even change a faucet washer.

    • @fredericrike5974
      @fredericrike5974 23 дні тому

      This looks to have been set up by the same people that sent helicopters not rated for desert ops in Operation Eagle Claw that failed to rescue our Tehran embassy hostages.

    • @richardkroll2269
      @richardkroll2269 20 днів тому +2

      Thank god these "expert" bureaucrats had nothing to do with the Normandy invasion (other than the idea to put skirts around the Sherman tanks to which none of the 40 made it to the beach.)

    • @lolazal1
      @lolazal1 19 днів тому

      Now vote Biden

    • @TheSakufighter
      @TheSakufighter 19 днів тому +1

      100’s of millions down the toilet. Sounds like the government.

  • @trishkillian2459
    @trishkillian2459 24 дні тому +112

    Sal You are our go-to expert on all things maritime. I never dreamed that I could be so interested in what goes on on the high seas. Thanks so much.

    • @paladro
      @paladro 24 дні тому +2

      given the planet is mostly seas...

    • @Nylon_riot
      @Nylon_riot 24 дні тому +5

      ​@@paladroYes. But despite being a maritime society, the majority of Americans have no idea what is there, how supply lines work, etc. Many don't even know we have an internal shipping system. They get their stuff delivered and the curiosity ends there.

    • @Nylon_riot
      @Nylon_riot 24 дні тому +2

      I am another student. 😊
      It is this whole, entire , bizarre alternate universe. I am having a good time learning about it. My offspring is going to college for management in a steel business so I am educating myself on it too.

  • @y2k541
    @y2k541 24 дні тому +34

    $329,000,000 to deliver (50) 20' containers of aid... 🤔

    • @humbug175
      @humbug175 24 дні тому

      It’s a PR stunt. The USA are paying for the Genocide and throwing a few crumbs at the victims.

    • @ArtStoneUS
      @ArtStoneUS 23 дні тому +8

      Allegedly, even a small portion of the aid actually wound up where it was supposed to go

    • @monkemode8128
      @monkemode8128 18 днів тому +4

      Yeah, Israel and the USA are being weird. Gaza is not an island or some kind of hinterlands.

    • @markworden9169
      @markworden9169 18 днів тому +1

      It's probably not about getting something done , it's about spending the money.

    • @whiskeybrown262
      @whiskeybrown262 18 днів тому +3

      🤑329 Million! Seems like peace is☮️ cheaper.

  • @socallb652
    @socallb652 24 дні тому +63

    The E4 Mafia Approves of your statement of no boots on the ground.

  • @user-rn5ks8sf5x
    @user-rn5ks8sf5x 24 дні тому +125

    Politicians + Admirals + Generals = SNAFU

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 24 дні тому

      Don’t forget the golf, hookers and bribes!

    • @keithhigh7773
      @keithhigh7773 24 дні тому +14

      Brit here.
      It is very easy to be judgemental about Generals and Admirals.
      But you do have to wonder about today's crop.
      In their defence, many of the Generals and Admirals in WW2 had been "battle hardened" by WW1 just 21 ISH years earlier.
      The last "real war" for America could be Vietnam, 50 years ago. But hardly on the scale of WW1 and WW2.
      I wonder if ANY of today's serving Genls or Admls saw service in Vietnam? Afghanistan etc were just incursions and a dreadful waste of life.

    • @TyMoore95503
      @TyMoore95503 24 дні тому +4

      @@keithhigh7773 Good point. General Norman Swartzkov was a Lt in Vietnam. He was the architect of the "Hail Marry" offense that invaded Iraq in Desert Storm. Now we have the leaders who brought you the Cluster F. of all exfils in Aghanistan.

    • @ramonmilam4373
      @ramonmilam4373 24 дні тому

      The commanders are nothing but political lackeys taking orders from armchair hacks in Washington and living in fear of their jobs. The personal are overworked, underfunded, under-trained, using broke down equipment. This is a typical SNAFU -- Situation Normal All Fucked Up

    • @mikeinfortcollinslynn7898
      @mikeinfortcollinslynn7898 24 дні тому +2

      Worse than a SNAFU. This is a FUBR.

  • @firstinlastout
    @firstinlastout 24 дні тому +27

    This is EXACTLY what you said may happen a month or two ago. 👍

  • @ajobdunwell2585
    @ajobdunwell2585 24 дні тому +36

    I was wondering why I hadn't heard anything about the pier since it's been completed.

    • @darwinjina
      @darwinjina 24 дні тому +11

      and now we know why we had not heard anything. lol

  • @Sagart999
    @Sagart999 24 дні тому +21

    It's been said that amateurs talk tactics but professionals talk logistics. And we keep giving up our logistics capabilities. That doesn't say anything positive.

    • @Ray-tx2ls
      @Ray-tx2ls 23 дні тому

      I’d bet they threw 150 mil to a corpo contract who did some paperwork instead of just bringing more assets and men

  • @JackHawkinswrites
    @JackHawkinswrites 24 дні тому +53

    Little wonder there is such piss poor performance since the US Army was trying to retire their ships.

    • @kimber3865
      @kimber3865 24 дні тому +12

      the causeway system isn't designed to operate in sea state higher than 2.
      Imagine being in sea state 5 when it could have been avoided hours prior by going to safe harbor due to high leadership that doesn't listen to the SMEs

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +6

      @@kimber3865 like the equivalent of a CEO will listen to the rank and file.

    • @scottfw7169
      @scottfw7169 24 дні тому +7

      @@kimber3865 My brother retired as a US Army W4; he went from Pershing missiles to intel analysis. One of his stories is about setting up a headquarters radio tent while an approaching thunderstorm was on the horizon. The Enlisted guys told the Colonel it would be most advisable to hold off until the storm passed.
      Colonel said no waiting, do it now.
      The entire assortment of communication equipment needed replacing but at least nobody got hurt.

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 24 дні тому

      Giving soldiers boats is as irresponsible as letting sailors play with tanks.

  • @annangi
    @annangi 24 дні тому +15

    They don't put boots on the ground. They go barefoot!!

  • @holdmycoffee4470
    @holdmycoffee4470 24 дні тому +36

    One could almost surmise that you have some knowledge the "E4 Mafia" 😉

  • @CandyVan69
    @CandyVan69 24 дні тому +11

    It was a waste time in the first place

    • @Faiez-rh1gm
      @Faiez-rh1gm 19 днів тому

      If Biden clamped down on Bibi to stop preventing aid from going into Gaza then this waste of millions would not have happened

  • @kimber3865
    @kimber3865 24 дні тому +40

    more than likely senior leadership not listening to Causeway SMEs when the storm was known to be incoming. Keep the causeway where it is instead of sending it to safe haven when the sea is relatively calm. Same thing happened in Austrailia except the causeway warping tug wasn't beached.
    This is more than anything a major fuck up from leadership that do not know how to employ a system telling the SMEs what to do instead of listening to their experience. Yet these mistakes keep on happening until someone gets hurt from those decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if a certain general somewhere in the chain of responsibility wanted the causeway personnel to stay on the causeway pieces and rough it out in sea state 5 instead of evacuating onto the LMSR. Obviously they didn't decide to let them sail to the safe haven hours prior to the storm coming in.

  • @pithicus52
    @pithicus52 24 дні тому +17

    The problem is that logistics is not sexy. However logistics wins wars. Imagine if JLOTS was all they had in the Normandy invasion.

    • @SnazzyLime
      @SnazzyLime 22 дні тому

      Screw Normandy.. All I am having is horrible thoughts of these JLOTS trying to work in the Pacific theater against China. What an unmitigated disaster!

  • @user-ne6gm8zq2k
    @user-ne6gm8zq2k 24 дні тому +20

    You predicted this !

  • @hatework4282
    @hatework4282 24 дні тому +52

    Well, if this isn't the perfect allegory for the current state of the US, I don't know what is.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +3

      The US is doing fine

    • @sonarsphere
      @sonarsphere 24 дні тому +12

      @@ThatOpalGuy circling the drain

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +2

      @@sonarsphere been that way since 2000, if not earlier.

    • @coachwendy5618
      @coachwendy5618 24 дні тому +3

      ​@@ThatOpalGuyThe US was doing fine. Your grammar tense is a bit off.

    • @AndyFromBeaverton
      @AndyFromBeaverton 24 дні тому +3

      @@ThatOpalGuy Our foreign policy and interventions have been major failures for 3 straight years. Name one operation that has been a success.

  • @HontasFarmer80
    @HontasFarmer80 24 дні тому +97

    That we allowed this capability to atrophy was the WORST way to save money on military spending. The ability to deploy naval and air forces over seas should be our specialty. Yet we forget this lesson after every single big war. Took a bit longer after WWII but we forgot it after the cold war.

    • @Syst3mat1cErr0r
      @Syst3mat1cErr0r 24 дні тому +11

      100% agree. This country has a fantastic history of fighting a war, winning, then immediately forgetting how to do anything. Look the Pacific campaign in WW2 for example. Japan mopped the floor with us because we didn't have our ducks in a basket.(Yet.)

    • @n3rdy11
      @n3rdy11 24 дні тому +7

      Amphibious warfare is like the kings discipline of warfare, but many argue it's not even worth it anymore due to the ever present SIGINT giving away any bigger landing _way_ before it's about to happen, and can most likely be countered rather low cost with drone swarms.

    • @carnut1965
      @carnut1965 24 дні тому +5

      Look at the commander in thief and you have the reason this action is failing!

    • @HontasFarmer80
      @HontasFarmer80 24 дні тому +3

      @@carnut1965 Oh no this was decades in the making.

    • @HontasFarmer80
      @HontasFarmer80 24 дні тому +3

      @@n3rdy11 Strategic surprise has not been possible even since before D Day. The Germans knew, everyone knew, there was going to be a large Anglo-American landing. Heck Japan knew that the Mongols were going to land at Hakata Bay in the 1300's. At best at best you can keep them guessing about the precise time and exact location. That is still doable now.

  • @richarddietzen3137
    @richarddietzen3137 24 дні тому +22

    Well Sal, you said it might not withstand higher sea states in the eastern Mediterranean.

  • @matthewbrook7683
    @matthewbrook7683 24 дні тому +76

    OK. I am not good at math but US$329,000,000 spent so far for 1000 tons of aid. Each ton so far has cost US$329,000 per ton. Thats expensive wheat. Next they will be using mulberry harbors. Wait that has been done before.

    • @DonaldPrizwan
      @DonaldPrizwan 24 дні тому +8

      first of all its not wheat. largely pre portioned/packaged "single use meals" along the lines of what you might know as an MRE.

    • @matthewbrook7683
      @matthewbrook7683 24 дні тому +25

      @@DonaldPrizwan OK well it still expensive MREs.

    • @Jason-fm4my
      @Jason-fm4my 24 дні тому +16

      That's Pentagon math. The amount spent on food is likely far less. It sounds like they are including the operational costs of all the ships and staff involved, and that gets paid for even if they aren't in use.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому

      Contractors are making bank, so...mission accomplished? ​@@Jason-fm4my

    • @paladro
      @paladro 24 дні тому +1

      @@Jason-fm4my you live in capitalist country, so why do you bother to bring up the obvious.

  • @alanmunroe8332
    @alanmunroe8332 24 дні тому +16

    US MIL OPS?
    During Vietnam I served aboard a Destroyer Tender with 6 month rotation between Long Beach and Pearl Harbor.
    The "bean counters" did not allow a proper hull inspection prior to rotation, hence while transiting Pacific Missle Range we went dead in the water 24hrs.
    No changes since!

    • @hallmobility
      @hallmobility 24 дні тому +1

      From tedium to apathy and back again.

  • @MPrybil
    @MPrybil 24 дні тому +46

    During Vietnam the US Army had more watercraft than the Navy and more aircraft than the Air Force. In 1967 I was in US Army medical corps and visited a US Army dive barge in Tokyo bay who was responsible for the under water fuel lines from shore to middle of bay to fuel US ships without them docking. Not all “dog faces” are in foxholes.

  • @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
    @beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 24 дні тому +23

    Absolutely Love this site. Thanks Sal

  • @karohe
    @karohe 24 дні тому +74

    329 million dollar to achieve 2.5% of daily need over a 2 months span.

    • @robcraigmyle3892
      @robcraigmyle3892 24 дні тому +6

      Mi$$ion Accomplished.

    • @jakedewald
      @jakedewald 24 дні тому +5

      50 20' containers = more or less 20 semi trailers
      Israel has moved this much before BB has his second cup of coffee.

    • @brucemitchell5637
      @brucemitchell5637 24 дні тому +2

      Ukraine; " Hold my beer!" 😂

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 24 дні тому +1

      But got around IDF ckeck points

    • @Pyle81
      @Pyle81 24 дні тому

      No worries, Joey Bi-Dumb is still getting his 10% off the top...

  • @mrjumbly2338
    @mrjumbly2338 24 дні тому +65

    This is great exercise to highlight the issues we have with sealift and the need for new ships and need for better funding for Army watercraft logistic operations.

    • @Colinpark
      @Colinpark 24 дні тому +8

      This is about the only silver lining in this stupid exercises

    • @AlphaAurora
      @AlphaAurora 24 дні тому

      All they needed was a breakwater?

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut 24 дні тому +6

      @@Colinpark Which makes it more than worth it since a mere training exercise would be ignored. Never forget for a second most people are completely incapable of understanding anything but drama. Intelligence is neuro-divergent so emotions must be used to guide human processes.

    • @stephanieparker1250
      @stephanieparker1250 24 дні тому +4

      I was about to comment something similar, this has been great training for the crews. Lots learned, including highlighting areas that need improvement.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 24 дні тому +1

      @@AlphaAurora and a Pepsi.

  • @marcatteberry1361
    @marcatteberry1361 24 дні тому +24

    @5:00
    I flipped off a couple of Czechoslovakian's in a guard tower, in 1986. They were taking pictures of me, taking pictures of them, taking pictures of me... When they put the camera down, I flipped, The camera whipped up again, and I was waving...
    Interestingly, I was an E-4...

  • @maryg.7790
    @maryg.7790 24 дні тому +9

    Thank you for time ( and knowledge!) on this memorial weekend Sunday!!

  • @djpaintles
    @djpaintles 24 дні тому +14

    Great report! You explain marine stuff so well it’s made me interested in things I paid little attention to before. Thank You!

  • @kenp9073
    @kenp9073 24 дні тому +5

    Thanx Sal. You the goto now for all things water/watercraft! Appreciate all you do.

  • @darrenyorston
    @darrenyorston 24 дні тому +5

    Sounds like they are trying to find the correct problem for the tool they want to use.

  • @cynical-_-bunny7399
    @cynical-_-bunny7399 24 дні тому +10

    My dad was a navigator on the LCACs out of ACU-5 on Camp Pendleton for 17 years. I miss those things lol

  • @RaymondDoolan
    @RaymondDoolan 24 дні тому +4

    Great video sounds very detailed. You do a wonderful job. We appreciate you.

  • @balaklava6420
    @balaklava6420 24 дні тому +35

    Thanks for the update Sal.

  • @Kim-J312
    @Kim-J312 24 дні тому +8

    The counties that recognized gaza for statehood , can take over 100% of all aid now . Norway, Spain and Ireland

    • @billiamc1969
      @billiamc1969 24 дні тому

      Zionist

    • @humbug175
      @humbug175 24 дні тому

      We recognised Palestine.
      In contrast to the USA who are paying for the Genocide.
      The Germans used Zyklon B to murder 154 children per day in Auschwitz, the Israelis are using American donated 2,000 dumb bombs to kill 72 children per day in the Gaza extermination camp.
      Two of the highest courts in the world have this week charged Israel and Netanyahu with committing Genocide.

    • @AndyFromBeaverton
      @AndyFromBeaverton 24 дні тому +5

      They should also take in Palestinian refugees.

    • @frictionpeg
      @frictionpeg 23 дні тому

      We do.

    • @jaypie8
      @jaypie8 23 дні тому

      You forgot the other 133 countries that recognize Palestine 😂😂😂

  • @Uncle_Torgo
    @Uncle_Torgo 24 дні тому +3

    "anchored on the beach" sounds like run aground sounds like somebody is in trouble.

    • @johnmay23
      @johnmay23 23 дні тому

      NOT " ANCHORED " ....' BEACHED IS MORE CORRECT .LETS HOPE THEY DO NOT STAY THERE !!

    • @Dokus360
      @Dokus360 19 днів тому +1

      That’s NATO/ Whitehouse speak.

  • @PhredsArmy
    @PhredsArmy 24 дні тому +7

    I really enjoyed this video, but to me, it's especially depressing. Especially when you mentioned the Army getting rid of its Tug fleet. With the Army also downsizing its fleet of boats, they had to get rid of a lot of the crews or retrain them for other jobs, so all that experience is gone. Even if the Army decides to revamp and regrow its watercraft capability, it takes a long time to train the crews, which require in unbelievable number of certifications (and licenses) in order to serve on those boats.

  • @natopeacekeeper97
    @natopeacekeeper97 24 дні тому +6

    Thanks, Sal, for another timely episode and your analysis. Your experience was a big help in explaining to us landlubbers the overall situation. As a former soldier, I just shake my head about the Army getting rid of their salvage tugs before getting replacement. Sadly, this seems to be happening with all our armed forces. The Marines deactivating their tank and artillery units was especially devastating to force posture and future combat operations.

  • @drumset09
    @drumset09 24 дні тому +7

    Love Ryan!
    I'm looking forward to the inevitable collaboration videos between you two.

  • @cheddar2648
    @cheddar2648 24 дні тому +43

    This is embarrassing. You can bet that The Dragon is paying very close attention to our inability to land stores on a beach.

  • @repulsewarriorx8825
    @repulsewarriorx8825 24 дні тому +7

    ...how does he do it, i have to ask myself; another wonderful program, fact filled, and compelling.
    Cheers!
    ...thanks, Sal.

  • @cj4freedom856
    @cj4freedom856 24 дні тому +8

    This helps prove why logistics win wars.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 24 дні тому

      How so? We aren’t at war with Gaza.

  • @MikeK2100
    @MikeK2100 24 дні тому

    Thanks for the update! So glad I came across your channel.

  • @GarryCollins-ec8yo
    @GarryCollins-ec8yo 24 дні тому +2

    Ragging on Ryan! I enjoy seeing creators working together

  • @fastfreddy3103
    @fastfreddy3103 24 дні тому +7

    Just finished “Andrew Jackson Higgins And The Boats That Won WWII” by Jerry E. Strahan.
    The most forgotten hero of the Allied Victory.

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 24 дні тому +42

    The Gaza Pier may be as big a Charlie Foxtrot as the Afghanistan withdrawl

    • @montanaosprey9840
      @montanaosprey9840 24 дні тому

      Charlie Foxtrot= “Cluster F*ck”.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +1

      Who negotiated that?

    • @darwinjina
      @darwinjina 24 дні тому +5

      @@ThatOpalGuy the timeline that was executed was not negotiated.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +1

      @@darwinjina and who ran that?

    • @jkbrown5496
      @jkbrown5496 24 дні тому +1

      What do you mean. CNN reported this on the 23rd
      "By Tuesday, however, the Pentagon said that none of the aid that had been unloaded from the pier had yet been delivered to the broader Palestinian population."
      A good chunk of the early cargo delivered was stolen. They are running into the same problem the land based aid has, which keeping it from being stolen by Hamas or by UNRWA employees to sell on the black market.

  • @joestellwagon2122
    @joestellwagon2122 24 дні тому +1

    Always good info. Look forward to more updates.

  • @alanhansbarger6025
    @alanhansbarger6025 24 дні тому +1

    Superb job once again! I’ve been wondering about how this operation was going and lo and behold you make this terrific video about it

  • @snakeman48
    @snakeman48 24 дні тому +9

    I'm an Honorably Discharged E4. The very idea to blame us. I'll bet it was an E5.😎

  • @JohnJohnson-bx6li
    @JohnJohnson-bx6li 24 дні тому +6

    A metric fuck ton of wasted US Tax dollars.

  • @tapalmer99
    @tapalmer99 23 дні тому

    I'm glad you and Ryan have contact. Your channels are two of my most frequently watched.

  • @michaellacy8510
    @michaellacy8510 24 дні тому +2

    Best info out there. Thanks!

  • @pat36a
    @pat36a 24 дні тому +17

    The Army and Navy had to cut those assets so they could build their new toys that weren't proven yet. Litoral ships , Ford class carriers, the Ospray. Then throw in the Air Force with the F35.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 24 дні тому +5

      You may not like new things. But you can't keep driving 50 and 60 year old ones.

    • @scottfw7169
      @scottfw7169 24 дні тому +2

      @@WALTERBROADDUS Which 50 and 60 years ago were themselves the new things.

    • @SteamCrane
      @SteamCrane 24 дні тому

      @@WALTERBROADDUS That was a list of failures and almost failures (Ford is improving).

  • @77space-vt8wi
    @77space-vt8wi 24 дні тому +6

    That Ryan McBeth, Dept of the Boat People T-shirt is perfect for the story,

  • @stevenbrown2608
    @stevenbrown2608 24 дні тому +2

    Awesome brief. Thanks so much.

  • @reclhoss
    @reclhoss 24 дні тому +32

    Our military sure is sloppy and disheveled these days.
    I wonder what O'happened.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +5

      o'corporate greed.

    • @bunsw2070
      @bunsw2070 24 дні тому +2

      You voted for this.

    • @reclhoss
      @reclhoss 24 дні тому

      @@bunsw2070 nope

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 24 дні тому +2

      Do you expect them to be in dress uniform or something?

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut 24 дні тому

      GWOT rot happended and SENIOR UNIFORMED LEADERSHIP FAILURE happened over DECADES. Armed forces programs outlive mere POTUS who have far less influence than plebs imagine. Failure to speak up is why we have Sal having to do that while politicians in uniform concentrate on their careers knowing that public ignorance shields them from scrutiny.

  • @1961Bullet
    @1961Bullet 22 дні тому +3

    So a temporary pier, meant for a lake, fell apart when installed in an unprotected ocean beach. Each day, 500 transport trucks of aid are required for Gaza and the West Bank. Call that 500 containers, and the US government has spent $500,000,000 for 1/10 of ONE DAYS REQUIREMENTS. Then it came to an immediate halt.

    • @1961Bullet
      @1961Bullet 22 дні тому +1

      That’s ten million per container delivered. It was not distributed. It’s being “warehoused” by the Israelis. So at this point, two million Palestinians received SFA and the US is a half billion more in debt. Go Navy.

  • @Carlos-im3hn
    @Carlos-im3hn 24 дні тому

    Thank you Dr. Sal for covering this topic and aftermath in incredibly good detail.

  • @junctiontime
    @junctiontime 23 дні тому

    That was really good, extremely informative; thank you!

  • @markbarnes2041
    @markbarnes2041 24 дні тому +7

    Love your enthusiasm and I love the show 😎😁😅🇺🇲❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @doughamilton1756
    @doughamilton1756 24 дні тому +55

    Get a few Seabees in there they will sort it out.

    • @whiskeymonk4085
      @whiskeymonk4085 24 дні тому +10

      Fuckin A. Can do.

    • @joshuanissen8803
      @joshuanissen8803 24 дні тому +11

      Lets just stay out

    • @dotmurphy7279
      @dotmurphy7279 24 дні тому +4

      You got it. The Seabees "Can Do"

    • @whiskeymonk4085
      @whiskeymonk4085 24 дні тому +3

      @@dotmurphy7279 My grandfather was a Seabee in WW2. He was all over the pacific and was awarded the bronze Star. I read his diary from his time overseas. Okinawa: "We are to go out tonight. They tell us that we are to face the Japanese imperial guard. None of them are under six feet tall and are master swordsmen"... His next entry...
      "Got two last night".
      That was his last entry in his journal word for word.
      Damn. That's a heavy thing to go through. His day job was doing what Seabees do.
      Aweful proud to come from his loins.

    • @dotmurphy7279
      @dotmurphy7279 24 дні тому +2

      My Daddy was on Guam WWII, my youngest brother in Viet Nam twice. Youngest brother also sent to lake in the Andes Mtns to build a hospital ship for the people of Bolivia and Peru.

  • @padwar3542
    @padwar3542 23 дні тому

    Really enjoyed this one! Thank you!

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade 24 дні тому

    I always appreciate the content you put out there sell

  • @ClyDIley
    @ClyDIley 24 дні тому +51

    This is truly hysterical!

    • @donnavorce8856
      @donnavorce8856 24 дні тому +6

      The entire situation (since 1947) makes me hysterical, sad, weeping, angry. active to get it remedied by peace and justice for the people.

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 24 дні тому +1

      it would be hysterical if there weren't people literally starving to death

    • @r.w.emersonii3501
      @r.w.emersonii3501 23 дні тому

      ​@@alanhat5252 And this pier, by deflecting attention from the aid-truck blockade, will help people to starve even faster, literally.

  • @Nylon_riot
    @Nylon_riot 24 дні тому +4

    The duck pond. I love the monikers the military comes up with.
    Thank you for the information, Sal!

  • @michaelsteel5177
    @michaelsteel5177 23 дні тому

    Thanks for your service.

  • @barrielineken5090
    @barrielineken5090 24 дні тому +5

    Super presentation. Very knowledgeable! 👍⚓️

  • @zr1pja
    @zr1pja 24 дні тому +4

    Now this big costly US effort is being laughed at by the Palestinians. I think there was doubt from the very beginning.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 24 дні тому

      Beggars can't be choosers.

    • @zr1pja
      @zr1pja 24 дні тому +1

      @@WALTERBROADDUS that is so true however these beggars have nothing to choose from because the US cannot deliver what was promised to them.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 24 дні тому +1

      @@zr1pja Hamas has made bigger promises. To the people. I think the buyer's remorse is setting in now?

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux 20 днів тому

      ​@@zr1pjaYou are genociding them with 2000 lb bombs. Did your media not tell you.

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux 20 днів тому +1

      Land of the free has censored me.

  • @olpaint71
    @olpaint71 24 дні тому +4

    Technically, does this count as "boots on the ground" or just boots aground? :)

    • @Dokus360
      @Dokus360 19 днів тому

      Nice one👌🏽

  • @davidlancaster3144
    @davidlancaster3144 22 дні тому

    Great update.

  • @timf2279
    @timf2279 22 дні тому

    Thank you for explaining the other options.

  • @user-mk2fg7xs5t
    @user-mk2fg7xs5t 24 дні тому +11

    You're styling brother. Looking dope!

  • @TheMcIke
    @TheMcIke 24 дні тому +10

    Love the Ryan McBeth t-shirt!!!

    • @eriksithens4722
      @eriksithens4722 24 дні тому

      Your choice of that T shirt brought a big smile. Ryan is great.

  • @ulf5738
    @ulf5738 24 дні тому +1

    Great video!

  • @laurenglass4514
    @laurenglass4514 24 дні тому

    I had heard about the injuries, thank you for the explanation

  • @MyFiddlePlayer
    @MyFiddlePlayer 24 дні тому +3

    I subscribe to both you and Ryan. Great combo!

  • @poneill65
    @poneill65 24 дні тому +9

    Whaa,.. it didn't work, whodathunkit!!!
    Oh well, perhaps when they get it to the port of ashdod, they can ask around and see if there's any kind of permanent coastal boat parking type thingy anywhere near.

  • @natehendricksen3338
    @natehendricksen3338 24 дні тому +1

    Thanks Sal. Great stuff.

  • @georgeallensmo
    @georgeallensmo 24 дні тому +4

    Department of the boat people. You guys are the best

  • @jackdawg4579
    @jackdawg4579 24 дні тому +3

    I have just watched a TV series about how the Canadians supply all their remote towns in the arctic from ships. They make this whole Gazza setup look like a joke...

    • @johnmay23
      @johnmay23 23 дні тому +2

      As a Canadian shipping company we offered to supply Gaza from Cyprus in October 2023..We wanted to use the existing pier in Gaza Port for a small ship - lifting 450 tons on a draft on 3.5 M with a turn round time of about 5 days and equipped with cargo handling gear - After 7 months we still waiting for a response from various governments ( including our own ! ) and almost every NGO involved in Palestine /Gaza
      j may
      eurocanadian maritime group ltd. - vancouver - canada

  • @Cletusrazorburn2
    @Cletusrazorburn2 23 дні тому +2

    Funny, I've noticed that since this conflict they give aid numbers in weight measurements not truck loads. They are not even close to the pre-war number of 500 trucks a day

  • @sergeharrison5804
    @sergeharrison5804 23 дні тому

    Great report...thanks

  • @40cleco
    @40cleco 24 дні тому +5

    Hard to keep something like that in place..mother nature will always win.

  • @joefin5900
    @joefin5900 24 дні тому +13

    Our military is known for logistics prowess; our pentagon is known for cluster flocking.

  • @angelarch5352
    @angelarch5352 24 дні тому

    very interesting! love hearig about how all this maritime stuff works, fascinating!

  • @georgewest2096
    @georgewest2096 24 дні тому

    Another show I learned a lot from, thanks.

  • @tigarxox
    @tigarxox 24 дні тому +31

    Imagine ie. a super power nation decides to throw an entire FLEET away without completion of its replacement. You would think WW2 battles in the pacific documentaries would have been in their libraries.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 24 дні тому +10

      it happens when you let billionaires call the shots.

    • @kenp9073
      @kenp9073 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@ThatOpalGuyAmen

    • @bunsw2070
      @bunsw2070 24 дні тому

      @@ThatOpalGuy Shit Libs more like. Look for a video titled "Carl Schmitt on Liberalism." That explains everything.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 24 дні тому

      Nobody is re doing WW2.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 24 дні тому +2

      Not quite following you. WW2 in the Pacific was won with a fleet that was built immediately preceding and during the war, so the lesson of that is not what you appear to think it was.

  • @brucemitchell5637
    @brucemitchell5637 24 дні тому +8

    Who's in charge of this? Is it the admiral that thinks he's a woman? 😂

    • @joetrey215
      @joetrey215 24 дні тому +1

      That thing is PHS, not DoD. Though that would explain things, I suppose.

    • @casteretpollux
      @casteretpollux 20 днів тому

      Less chance a woman would have done this.

  • @robertdavis7341
    @robertdavis7341 24 дні тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @aftabkhanize
    @aftabkhanize 24 дні тому

    A very interesting and factual description of the whole story.

  • @durgan5668
    @durgan5668 24 дні тому +5

    Well, it a piers there's a problem.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 24 дні тому +3

      I’m sorry but we’re going to have to dock your pay for that one.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  24 дні тому +3

      These are terrible.

  • @petercombs4119
    @petercombs4119 24 дні тому +10

    Hey Sal. The sailors/officers that end up in charge of these operations tend to be "keep the lights on" kind of guys. Guys stacking up years towards retirement kind of like old forgotten pallets (the years, not the souls). The order comes down "make ready to sail" and then the details needed for planning come as an after thought. Because after all, the pier is designed to look like we're doing something in a chaotic political mess called in as a favor for a geopolitical madman during an existential struggle between oligarchs and the working class folk.

  • @USMMCE
    @USMMCE 24 дні тому

    Great information as always Sal!

  • @dcdk1525
    @dcdk1525 20 днів тому

    A great brief Mr. Thanks from Denmark

  • @kurtkohl151
    @kurtkohl151 24 дні тому +5

    We have to work the Barb El Membahb into the Gaza story somehow. Cheers