At a minimum, the second he got backstage they should have been like "yep that's the guy". Or when he was trying to leave with the singer and somehow ZERO of her entourage. I mean come on.
There's NO REASON to doubt the guy who gets backstage, he's randomly selected. And from their point of view, NOBODY is asking for Cooper and his daughter to leave with the singer, but the SINGER HERSELF
@@JeanVlogDandamme The profiler says earlier in the movie 'this guy is going to do anything to escape'. Therefore any man who is trying to get out of regular avenues should be sus AF. The singer would have been assumed to have been intimidated. Not just 'yeah she said it's ok'
@@Ocyla the thing is, they know he's gonna TRY anything, but they don't get that he's already pulled it off ! To them, he's gonna try anything to get out of the public area...where he isn't anymore. They can't even imagine he'd ALREADY been randomly selected for the song. Now, i agree with you that they're underestimating his abilities, if you want. But in their defense, everything in the movie shows they got NOTHING on him. They just can't understand how powerful he is. I mean, the whole reason why they launched this whole operation, is because it's the ONLY LEAD they got on him for years, they literally have NO CLUE of the beast he is !
My analysis of him not killing or doing something crazy is that I think his OCD actually factored into it. This whole time he has been able to keep his serial killer life and family completely separate. This concert was the first time they collided where he couldn’t separate the two.
@@Menstral 😂😂Nah man I ain’t a woman but keep in mind that this guy had all sorts of messed up stuff wrong with his brain so it is just my view on the movie
I buy that. But that's not enough to dig it out of the grave the awful dialogue put the movie in. The "interactiond" between the killer and exposition shirt-seller guy are unbearable
It truly was a trap for me as a spectator. I can't believe so much budget is invested in something like this; however I sincerely hope the writers were paid a symbolic wage, because they delivered a ludicrous plot, really pushing the viewer's suspension of disbelief in there.
Also acting career, it seemed. The third act of the movie (after leaving the concert) was totally nonsensical and made her instead of Josh the focus of the movie.
@@Acme633 The confrontation between their ideas of integrity and separation was outlined even when the song was released, I don’t see a problem with this at all. Moreover, this is not a problem for those viewers who did not know that Saleka is Shyamalan’s daughter ;)
He absolutely didn't. The music is presented to us the whole time from Cooper's point of view, who doesn't care about it and finds it annoying. The first 45 minutes of the movie is basically telling us "if you don't give a crap about the music, it's OK, the main character doesn't eithe."
I just watched it yesterday and I gotta disagree with your overall take. I do think some of the criticisms are valid such as the concession stand guy telling him as much as he did or even knowing as much as he did. I also think that for how many police/fbi agents there were, their methods of identifying the suspect was ridiculously inefficient. There is absolutely no way he should have been able to get out of that building. After they left it was insane. Which is why to me it was a 8/10.
So fair, especially regarding that painful script. Otherwise, I disagree. I loved his cool, tight control, because that's exactly how real serial killers don't get caught. It's what made his performance so devastating - he was a perfect personification of sick people who actually exist... but he's even better at eluding capture. And that last 60 seconds just WINS. Immediate Oscar.
my first thought after watching was... "This could've been so good if they made the movie about a SERIAL KILLER!!!" Josh did an amazing job, but the supporting cast had some weak links. For example, the friend's mother... opportunity missed to SHOW US his serial killer side. She just ended up being annoying and too comedic as a character. This could've been soo good if it was taken seriously.
So freaking true!! Josh is absolutely killing it and then the script doesn't let him do anything. I don't think I've ever said a movie would be better with an R rating but here we are.
That mother is exactly there for that ! Being annoying, and showing us that Cooper CAN'T AFFORD to do anything suspicious, especially killing someone WHO CAN BE LINKED TO HIM. Seems like your taste for blood in movies overthrown you logical thinking here
There is something off with the cinematography. The shots of concert looks more like a documentary filming style. And sometimes it looks like a cinematic movie.
What do you mean by saying that this film would have benefited from a "bigger producer name" behind it? This is an M. Night Shyamalan film - he was one of the producers, as well as writer of the script and director (from IMDb). The film should have ended at two or three earlier points, and the last third was preposterous. When Josh le ft in Lady Raven's car, she had already identified him as the killer, and there was no way that he just wanted to step off his car and when she insisted even agreed to her visiting his home.
Lady Raven used his love for his daughter as a weakness to save Spencer, just as his wife used his love for his daughter as a weakness so they ate the pie.
That's right. "Show, don't tell" Trap does a great job of showing us the confrontation between Lady Raven's idea of general kindness and integrity and Cooper's idea of compartmentalizing life, relationships with loved ones and the serial killer's reinforced abusive mom side. From the very beginning, with Cooper's reaction to Raven's words about forgiving those who have hurt you. Only inattentive spectators, reacting only to the form, may not notice this)
@@Str52849 The film suck ass, there is no meaning except to promote his talentless daughter. If you found any meaning in that dog turd of a movie good for you because you obviously enjoy terrible stories full of plot holes and without substance. By the way your opinion is as impressive as a warm shart...
literally all of his movies have terrible dialogue lmfao i dont understand why people think this movies dialogue is different than his other awful movies
The only good thing about this movie is Josh Hartnett. I enjoyed watching it, but if I wasn't in a one-sided relationship with him for the past 26 years, I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much. It was fun, because watching him was fun. Idk wtf M Night was thinking, and I usually support him. I actually liked Old even though it was ridiculous! I think this might have been worse. But Josh though 😍
The performer at the concert is the director’s daughter. The concert was just an excuse to boost his daughter. The soundtrack was just an excuse to boost his daughter. I would imagine Hartnett had the same reaction to the concept, but I hope he’s pissed after he sees the product.
The soundtrack perfectly fits the themes of the movie...and Shyamalan tells us all the movie through the example of Cooper, that we are allowed to not care about the music, and find it annoying. Cooper does.
As he’s said, he expects to provoke his audience, to make them THINK. Trap is a fun and very entertaining movie but there’s more to it than that. What if you take a preposterous premise, dress it up with 2 dozen improbabilities, have actors who can run with parody and make it hilarious. He said this film was unlike anything else he’s ever done. But some of you guys are too used to eating pablum to appreciate that what he’s done here is out of the predictable box and gives us something new and tonally absurd. Sure, there are some flaws (Saleka sings great but can’t act.) but it’s a definite 4*/5* work that is among his very best movies. My hubby and I have seen it twice!
@@mgariepy42 The second half chase and rescue shows it takes itself FAR too seriously to call itself a spoof. We can't just say any movie that fails on just about every level did so as a spoof.
@@free322001 No, the film doesn't take itself too seriously. The film is both ironic and tense, and there is a lot to think about. Those who believe that it should be one-dimensional do not understand the term "mixing genres")
@@mgariepy42 In my Top 5 Shyamalan movies. Artistic exaggeration is unfamiliar to some viewers) I wouldn't say Saleka can't play. She behaves the way a character should behave, for example, scene in the car, she deliberately tries unconvincingly to “play mom” so that in the film Cooper would not give in and sarcastically tell her))
Does anyone else here think "The Sixth Sense" was written by someone more talented than Shyamalan? I can't think of one Shyamalan film since then that was anywhere near as mind-blowingly good.
Haters gonna hate) You will be very surprised that many people like “Unbreakable” more than “The Sixth Sense”) But those viewers who react only to their expectations in their heads and templates of how the story should be told, completely missing the meaning of the film, gave it C on CinemaScore . This says a lot about how inattentively viewers watched films then, and how inattentively they watch films now)
Uuuh...try Unbreakable, Split, Glass...and now Trap (because they're part of the same universe) Some people might not agree for Glass and Trap, but they just don't realize the movies are all connected, and their scenarios feed each other.
“Dialogue written by someone who has never talked to a human” yep that’s Shyamalan.
At a minimum, the second he got backstage they should have been like "yep that's the guy". Or when he was trying to leave with the singer and somehow ZERO of her entourage. I mean come on.
There's NO REASON to doubt the guy who gets backstage, he's randomly selected.
And from their point of view, NOBODY is asking for Cooper and his daughter to leave with the singer, but the SINGER HERSELF
@@JeanVlogDandamme The profiler says earlier in the movie 'this guy is going to do anything to escape'. Therefore any man who is trying to get out of regular avenues should be sus AF. The singer would have been assumed to have been intimidated. Not just 'yeah she said it's ok'
@@Ocyla the thing is, they know he's gonna TRY anything, but they don't get that he's already pulled it off ! To them, he's gonna try anything to get out of the public area...where he isn't anymore.
They can't even imagine he'd ALREADY been randomly selected for the song. Now, i agree with you that they're underestimating his abilities, if you want.
But in their defense, everything in the movie shows they got NOTHING on him. They just can't understand how powerful he is. I mean, the whole reason why they launched this whole operation, is because it's the ONLY LEAD they got on him for years, they literally have NO CLUE of the beast he is !
We can agree that Josh Hartnett was good in it and was cool to see him in a film after a long time.
The concert in the middle of the day, as well as huge intermission breaks between songs.
And the fact that she went back to his house.......... with no security
My analysis of him not killing or doing something crazy is that I think his OCD actually factored into it. This whole time he has been able to keep his serial killer life and family completely separate. This concert was the first time they collided where he couldn’t separate the two.
@@The_Black_Roninn this is the kind of statement that certainly only a woman could say, since a woman naturally lives her life as 10 different people
@@Menstral 😂😂Nah man I ain’t a woman but keep in mind that this guy had all sorts of messed up stuff wrong with his brain so it is just my view on the movie
I buy that. But that's not enough to dig it out of the grave the awful dialogue put the movie in. The "interactiond" between the killer and exposition shirt-seller guy are unbearable
@@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom
A typical interaction between a regular guy and a Butcher-obsessed, chatty salesman.
I'm so glad me teaching you what "deus ex machina" means on the podcast has come to benefit your life later on
Movie relied on "plausibility stretches" to keep going. I liked the songs though.
The scenario was based on superpowers to even exist in the first place. That's what people don't understand.
I was bored to tears. And then they left the concert with the singer??? WTF? Nobody thought this was unrealistic??
610 subs and 5 likes? this video felt like it was made by a youtuber with more than one hundered thousand subscriber. keep up the good work.
It truly was a trap for me as a spectator. I can't believe so much budget is invested in something like this; however I sincerely hope the writers were paid a symbolic wage, because they delivered a ludicrous plot, really pushing the viewer's suspension of disbelief in there.
It seemed to me that M. Night Shyamalan was promoting his daughters singing career.
She deserved
Also acting career, it seemed. The third act of the movie (after leaving the concert) was totally nonsensical and made her instead of Josh the focus of the movie.
@@Acme633 The confrontation between their ideas of integrity and separation was outlined even when the song was released, I don’t see a problem with this at all. Moreover, this is not a problem for those viewers who did not know that Saleka is Shyamalan’s daughter ;)
He absolutely didn't. The music is presented to us the whole time from Cooper's point of view, who doesn't care about it and finds it annoying.
The first 45 minutes of the movie is basically telling us "if you don't give a crap about the music, it's OK, the main character doesn't eithe."
I just watched it yesterday and I gotta disagree with your overall take. I do think some of the criticisms are valid such as the concession stand guy telling him as much as he did or even knowing as much as he did. I also think that for how many police/fbi agents there were, their methods of identifying the suspect was ridiculously inefficient. There is absolutely no way he should have been able to get out of that building. After they left it was insane. Which is why to me it was a 8/10.
So fair, especially regarding that painful script. Otherwise, I disagree. I loved his cool, tight control, because that's exactly how real serial killers don't get caught. It's what made his performance so devastating - he was a perfect personification of sick people who actually exist... but he's even better at eluding capture. And that last 60 seconds just WINS. Immediate Oscar.
Play it again (when J stood and asked Saleka to leave "nicely.)
Face expression ✨ Oscar 4that 100%
my first thought after watching was... "This could've been so good if they made the movie about a SERIAL KILLER!!!" Josh did an amazing job, but the supporting cast had some weak links. For example, the friend's mother... opportunity missed to SHOW US his serial killer side. She just ended up being annoying and too comedic as a character. This could've been soo good if it was taken seriously.
So freaking true!! Josh is absolutely killing it and then the script doesn't let him do anything. I don't think I've ever said a movie would be better with an R rating but here we are.
That mother is exactly there for that ! Being annoying, and showing us that Cooper CAN'T AFFORD to do anything suspicious, especially killing someone WHO CAN BE LINKED TO HIM.
Seems like your taste for blood in movies overthrown you logical thinking here
There is something off with the cinematography. The shots of concert looks more like a documentary filming style. And sometimes it looks like a cinematic movie.
What do you mean by saying that this film would have benefited from a "bigger producer name" behind it? This is an M. Night Shyamalan film - he was one of the producers, as well as writer of the script and director (from IMDb).
The film should have ended at two or three earlier points, and the last third was preposterous. When Josh le ft in Lady Raven's car, she had already identified him as the killer, and there was no way that he just wanted to step off his car and when she insisted even agreed to her visiting his home.
Lady Raven used his love for his daughter as a weakness to save Spencer, just as his wife used his love for his daughter as a weakness so they ate the pie.
That's right. "Show, don't tell" Trap does a great job of showing us the confrontation between Lady Raven's idea of general kindness and integrity and Cooper's idea of compartmentalizing life, relationships with loved ones and the serial killer's reinforced abusive mom side. From the very beginning, with Cooper's reaction to Raven's words about forgiving those who have hurt you. Only inattentive spectators, reacting only to the form, may not notice this)
Very good movie critique. You have a great voice for this and very good timing. I would be happy to watch more movie reviews by you!
Thank you so much friend!! I appreciate it dearly!!
I think you’re in the pretty big minority thinking the 3rd act is the good part. First two were way more interesting.
One word sums up this whole movie...NEPOTISM. It's the focus, so plot and story is molded around it.
If you understand the meaning of the film, then meme comments about “one word - nepotism” will disappear by themselves)
@@Str52849 The film suck ass, there is no meaning except to promote his talentless daughter. If you found any meaning in that dog turd of a movie good for you because you obviously enjoy terrible stories full of plot holes and without substance. By the way your opinion is as impressive as a warm shart...
Watch OLD movie of M. Night
Hit or miss…. Biiig miss
A big hit for those who look carefully and think about the meaning, and do not react only to an unusual form)
literally all of his movies have terrible dialogue lmfao i dont understand why people think this movies dialogue is different than his other awful movies
M night's daughter was awful in this lol idk what you saw to make her good? Sonfs were good but her acting was garbage
Josh Harnett LITERALLY made this movie watchable.
His character sucked, a goofball
The only good thing about this movie is Josh Hartnett. I enjoyed watching it, but if I wasn't in a one-sided relationship with him for the past 26 years, I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much. It was fun, because watching him was fun. Idk wtf M Night was thinking, and I usually support him. I actually liked Old even though it was ridiculous! I think this might have been worse. But Josh though 😍
Trash movie. Never again
The performer at the concert is the director’s daughter. The concert was just an excuse to boost his daughter. The soundtrack was just an excuse to boost his daughter.
I would imagine Hartnett had the same reaction to the concept, but I hope he’s pissed after he sees the product.
The soundtrack perfectly fits the themes of the movie...and Shyamalan tells us all the movie through the example of Cooper, that we are allowed to not care about the music, and find it annoying. Cooper does.
Some of his movies are good. But more often than not, he becomes too immersed in his own bollocks.
As he’s said, he expects to provoke his audience, to make them THINK. Trap is a fun and very entertaining movie but there’s more to it than that. What if you take a preposterous premise, dress it up with 2 dozen improbabilities, have actors who can run with parody and make it hilarious. He said this film was unlike anything else he’s ever done. But some of you guys are too used to eating pablum to appreciate that what he’s done here is out of the predictable box and gives us something new and tonally absurd. Sure, there are some flaws (Saleka sings great but can’t act.) but it’s a definite 4*/5* work that is among his very best movies. My hubby and I have seen it twice!
If you didn’t pick up on parody, couldn’t you at least pick up on the cat and mouse thriller tropes turned on their heads? It’s a spoof, man.
@@mgariepy42 The second half chase and rescue shows it takes itself FAR too seriously to call itself a spoof.
We can't just say any movie that fails on just about every level did so as a spoof.
@@free322001 No, the film doesn't take itself too seriously. The film is both ironic and tense, and there is a lot to think about. Those who believe that it should be one-dimensional do not understand the term "mixing genres")
@@mgariepy42
In my Top 5 Shyamalan movies. Artistic exaggeration is unfamiliar to some viewers) I wouldn't say Saleka can't play. She behaves the way a character should behave, for example, scene in the car, she deliberately tries unconvincingly to “play mom” so that in the film Cooper would not give in and sarcastically tell her))
This movie was SOOOO bad. But if you have not seen a SINGLE M Night movie I question why you present your self here online as a critic in this clip.
Free country I guess 🤷♂️
@@TheGlasStudios Indeed. It was more of a friendly suggestion than the rebuked that it seemed.
They didn't ruined this was a new legend
Legend of crap.
Does anyone else here think "The Sixth Sense" was written by someone more talented than Shyamalan? I can't think of one Shyamalan film since then that was anywhere near as mind-blowingly good.
Haters gonna hate) You will be very surprised that many people like “Unbreakable” more than “The Sixth Sense”) But those viewers who react only to their expectations in their heads and templates of how the story should be told, completely missing the meaning of the film, gave it C on CinemaScore . This says a lot about how inattentively viewers watched films then, and how inattentively they watch films now)
Uuuh...try Unbreakable, Split, Glass...and now Trap (because they're part of the same universe)
Some people might not agree for Glass and Trap, but they just don't realize the movies are all connected, and their scenarios feed each other.
@@JeanVlogDandamme Saw all of them. Unremarkable compared to TSS. Especially split and Trap.