Glad I watched the documentary. I found Vivian to be a courageous woman, left alone and isolated and victimized by racist. Yet, she never shouted about it, she just did what she had to do to raise her children. Bravo to you Vivian - I celebrate you Vivian 🎉 your memory and your legacy.
This documentary was heartbreaking. All she ever did was love him endlessly and she was wronged over and over. After watching her documentary and reading her book i have nothing but the upmost respect for her
When I read Vivian Liberto book ,I felt like she exposed her soul,all the cold blooded.truths her love for her family ,her humanitarian endeavors with finesse and couth.This world would be a better place with millions like Vivian Liberto.You are missed
Nancy Barbato Sinatra lived a similar life too.I wished that Elizabeth "Betty" Bisceglia Broderick had supportive friends like Vivian Liberto and Nancy Barbato Sinatra.I believe there would have been a better outcome instead of the circumstances that happened in Mission Valley (San Diego ) California.
It was a very good thing that the truth be told by Vivian.She was treated very badly by the press during the beginning of Johnny Cash's recording career. Fabulous woman.
Very good. So glad Vivian's story is being told. Sad that Hollywood so often twists things & causes wrong feelings & ideas. The truth would have been better.
I watched it after seeing your video and cannot put into words how my heart was broken for her, knowing how much she loved that man and how he was literally destroying her mentally and emotionally, leaving her all alone and their kids to raise without him like that. This is how he treated his own wife after giving him all of herself, her love, devotion and support all those years. He turned his back on her quite literally, all for the love of fame, drugs and lust, as 'if' she had hadn't even existed. Mind boggling. Well, out of sight, out of mind as the saying goes, only in this case, Cash took it quite too literally. Also, June knew precisely what she was doing, she warned Vivian that he (Johnny) would be hers. Even before this encounter, Vivian was right to instinctively fear her.
Every stay at home wife of a famous male musician who’s had their children and been with him for years knows that a June Carter is always around the corner.
I Walk The Line, was written by Johnny Cash for Vivian (before June existed in their lives?). But in the movie Walk The Line, they showed June as the one who inspired John to write it. What a stretch.
he wrote it after a show in Memphis that he opened for Elvis....Vivian was alarmed at the attention Elvis was getting from the ladies.....and rightfully worried so......
Well said. I was a longtime Johnny Cash fan for years but the book etc has changed it for me. Read between the lines and he also smacked Vivian around as well. The great love story they go on about is overpumped in my eyes. June blatantly stated to Vivian she'd get him eventually. It's quite hypocritical for the image they went on to portray.
She was a lot prettier and seemed to me she definitely got the bad end of the stick as the saying goes.She sat a home for years with the kids while he was out living the high life and seeing other women. Mainly June. Not judging but I can’t understand it really because she wasn’t very pretty and it was moma and sisters and dad who where really famous and June wasn’t that great of a singer either.. it’s none of my business but I watched this documentary as told by his own children so it can’t not be true. It really has my changed my opinion of these people and I somehow it’s changed my feelings towards the music as well…
Vivian wasn't addicted to drugs as Johnny sadly was. He suffered more than she did. You can't live a high life when you're tormented by drugs and booze. Vivian taking care of her children at home was a blessing, I'm sure. Apparently, she did a good job. She sacrificed for Johnny. She is to be admired and honored.
I don't know that much about Johnny Cash except was a country singer and a lot of people liked him but in all my years I never even heard about a Vivian only thing I ever heard of was June Carter Cash it's amazing when people tell their truth and that history what what they leave out thank you so much for bringing this to everyone's attention especially mine and I will be watching the documentary thank you
Thank u I never knew about Viv either I knew he had a daughter rosann cash but didn't know they had 4. I thought he just had a child by someone never knew that he was married gosh how come Noone knew her wow I knew Johnny Cash liked his music and knew he was fr dyess AR not far fr where I'm fr I thought he was only with June I want to c the movie too
I had the exact reaction to this documentary as the reviewer did! Walk the line is such a favorite movie of mine, but I’m so sad that Vivian was portrayed as a bitter, cold, nagging woman who thwarted Johnny’s career. This documentary made me cry for the beautiful love that was lost through a perfect storm of drugs, distance and infidelity. I know Johnny and June were a great love story, but I think his love with Vivian would’ve been just as great had those obstacles not been there. I thought the fact that he willingly called the Catholic Diocese to reinstate Vivians membership... saying that she did nothing wrong in this situation and it was all on him, was proof that he still carried Vivian in his heart. I think if he had read those thousand letters on occasion he would’ve found a way to save his marriage. I have a lot less respect for June Carter now, she’s not the saint the industry and John Carter Cash portrayed her as.
Susan Keller There are no saints in this world, just people trying to find love and happiness in life. Johnny was no saint either. He pursued June Carter until he had her, and there is no stopping that kind of passion. It's interesting, though that you pass no judgement on Johnny, just June Carter. Hmmm...
@@schoomzer well Johnny never was portrayed as a saint...so no need to comment on that. On the other hand the movie repeatedly portrayed June as the person who steered Johnny straight. From Vivian’s point of view Mama Maybell Carter and June had their sights set on John from the outset. And June falsely portrayed herself as a long suffering mother to those girls, which wasn’t true. By the way, passing judgement means one has decided another’s ultimate place in the eternities…I simply stated that I was disappointed to find the image that was presented in Walk the Line wasn’t accurate for June or Vivian for that matter. I do have a lot less respect for her, that’s just a fact.
@@susankeller4170 You missed the point. There are no saints amongst us in this world, but there is a wide range of good and bad people, so there was not need to hold June Carter to a higher standard, than Johnny Cash or anyone else. Naturally, Vivian was an angry woman because she was scorned.
@@schoomzer It’s obvious you didn’t see this documentary or you wouldn’t have called Vivian an angry woman...that’s the ‘story’ the movie fed us but it’s wrong. And I didn’t miss the point...I happen to have an OPINION, and it’s what I’ve stated.
@@susankeller4170 Vivian's perspective is jaded about June Carter. She was the woman that Vivian lost her beloved Johnny Cash to. You don't understand that the documentary is also biased in favor of Vivian. Of course, Vivian was angry. She resented June on many levels. June did help Johnny to deal with his vices. That's one of the reasons that June Carter was the love of his life. He did Vivian wrong. He was unfaithful. He wasn't there for her and his children, and he started another family with June. She had a right to be angry at him and at June Carter. Face the facts, Amanda. By the way, you didn't have to be Italian to be a cast member of the Jersey Shore reality show. You're actually amusing, Amanda.
After I watched I walked the line I never liked June;the movie made Vivian look like the evil one in reality the evil one was June.I don’t know what kind of a woman would deliberately break up a marriage just for the power trip.
Walk The Line depicts June as this sweet virtuous lady who didnt want any part of cheating and someone who fought off Johnny's advances. They portrayal doesnt match up with June's bad attitude.
That movie, which i do love, is one of many wrong's that the entertainment industry committed against Vivian. I'm really glad this film was made to show people her side of the story.
Did not know John and Vivian had 4 Girls!!! That would make a GR8 Picture Book/Story, “ Girls”. We sure could use any light. Johnny Cash was a Beautiful Light...and Still loved! Bless You, Ladies!!
June pulled the oldest trick on Vivian in illicet-affair-history. She made the wife angry enough to kick him out into her waiting arms. This is what my mother said at the time it happened. Johnny wanted them both. He would have never made the decision to leave Vivian on his own. June would have eventually moved on when she realized Johnny was not going to leave Vivian. I witnessed this with another woman in a triangle. The mistress’ friends would call the wife and “anonymously inform where the two lovers were. The wife caught them and kicked him out. He’s still with the other woman.
I'm surprised Vivian did that; it seems out of character. Vivian was a staunch Catholic. Didnt I read she was almost excommunicated and Johnny talked the bishop out of it? Also, Johnny Cash hadn't left Vivian YET.
@Jacklyn Everage She initiated the divorce but he was all for it. If he had wanted to stay he would have. Read his biography. He didn't love her anymore.
At the end of the day, Johnny could have stayed with Vivian. It’s not my place to judge, but it was ultimately his choice. He didn’t need June for his career but perhaps he needed her to get sober.
@Jacklyn Everage It is also believed that the divorce initiated by Viv was an ultimatum to scare Johnny into staying but it backfired. I don’t think she wanted the divorce despite the cheating. She was a devout Catholic.
@@thebigmick1977 Sadly, I cant imagine Cash staying with Vivian after the KKK thing happened. It would have probably ended his career. If that had happened surely the marriage would have been ruined. There is no way to envision a happy ending.
Racism had nothing to do with the marriage ending. It was an ugly chapter in the families history but it was not a factor in the divorce or the marriage ending. They were madly in love for many years. They were together for 13.
@@superamanda I was an attempt at pointing out the bad people who were speaking out on this extremely beautiful woman and a rising star country singer ...
I love the movie walk the line, but it doesn’t portrayed Johnny Cash as well either. Yeah they showed he’s a good singer and everything, but they didn’t show his good side. For example his son John said he was a great father, and had so much light. I wish they would have showed that more. Other than that, I really love the movie too.
I always hate when things come out after someone's death, all of this could have been told when all three were still alive and could've defended their actions, all three were wonderful people caught up living life.
This is a really good review. I will be watching the documentary soon. It is sad that they try to erase Vivian's story. but a lot of us knew all along the reason she was being treated that way is because she was mixed with Black.
No. If she’d been mixed or viewed as mixed there’d never have been a Johnny Cash. There’s no Imitation of Life here!. She was born, educated, married and resided as white her entire life.
@@aimjbtnh3 I get that Far Right KKK people were upset and published a fake article in Thunderbolt but many of those racist southern people were hiding their own black ancestry! She and Johnny Cash lived in Tennessee when they still had the One Drop. The color line wasn’t as binary as people today think it was.
If I remember right, she was Sicilian decent. With her extremely dark hair and olive skin, she looked black in those old black and white pictures. That’s where that rumor got started. As if it should matter, but at that time, it did matter. Still does in some places, unfortunately.
Also, that you guys for the discussion. I hope you got to watch the documentary and enjoyed it. I think I’m going to reformat the channel to do exclusively small independent films as there are already too many people reviewing mainstream movies. Any input would be appreciated.
You are Spot on. I have seen hundreds of videos about this as well as Walk the Line. Your Video is by far the most accurate and correct. I absolutely love that you made this. Might be my favorite youtube video ever
Thank you so much for the compliment. I haven't made any content in a while, but i recently saw the reaction this video got and I'm rethinking that. Again, thank you for the kind words and I am glad you enjoyed the video.
Henry Louis Gates found that she did. She did have black ancestry from very distant great grandmother. Her 3rd great grandmother was biracial and freed from slavery from her white master. Her African genes just did not fade. Her hair was dark and curly and tan and she had a round nose.
@@jasminepearls1047 With modern technology, those things are easily found out. I, myself, always thought I was mostly of Irish ethnicity. Found out after my mom and i did this that we are mostly Dutch. We also found out that we had small amounts of Middle Eastern, African, and Neanderthal, and one other group that we'd never heard of. I can't remember the name but they were contemporary with Neanderthals. Fascinating what technology can uncover these days.
@@lauramorgan2928 Apparently she was. I wanted to clarify (just in case there is any misunderstanding), I don't think it's sad that she had a black ancestor; rather I think it's sad that her and Johnny had to go through discrimination because of it.
Glad more and more people are learning the truth. I saw the documentary. Viviann was a beautiful woman and my heart went out to her. She certainly did not deserve the harsh treatment she received after raising their 4 girls on her own. Really sad.
So why did Rosanne Cash, Johnny Cash, and everybody else go around calling June his soulmate and love of his life if all she did was steal Cash from Vivian? In her autobiography, Rosanne Cash states that her mother, understandably, could not see that Johnny and June were meant to be together. She has said on more than one occasion that her father would not have lived as long as he did without June. I'm all for them setting the record straight about how their mother has been portrayed, but the man has stated in his own words many times that June was the love of his life. He even said he told her he was going to marry her one day while still being married to Vivian. He said these things. If anyone is the villain here, it's Cash. June wasn't anywhere Johnny didn't want her to be.
I'm not sure this is a story about heroes and villains. I don't doubt that June was the love of his life, and she was instrumental in getting his vices under control. The tragedy, as I see it, is how Hollywood and Nashville treated Vivian and portrayered her a an unhinged jealous woman. I understand liberties are always going to be taken when adapting a story to film, but her portrayal focused mainly on her negative aspects. Personally, I don't think Johnny or June are bad people. Sometimes, people fall out of love or fall in love with someone else. It's always happened and always will happen. It's the treatment of Vivian by the elietes, including June reportedly, but not Johnny from what I've read.
June didn't break up the marriage. She wasn't married to Vivian. It was Johnny who broke the vows . It was his responsibilty to leave his daughters. Johnny left Vivian for his own Fortune. Think about it.
I don't recall johhny Cash or June Carter Cash ever professing to be perfect people. Most are bashing them on here. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw boulders....right? I still love my Cash records and listen to his music happily 😊
I don't do twitter, and I have no idea what exactly is discussed there on the subject of Vivian Liberto and Johnny Cash. However, racism was and is a brutal force in personal lives of those who were (are) in a mixed marriage. Esp. in countries with at the time racist segregational laws like (specific states in) U.S., and South-Africa during Apartheid (which is another name for Segregation). WikiPedia on One-drop-rule: "The one-drop rule is a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of "black blood") is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms)... This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation." The so called one drop rule is part of American culture, and it is part of white racist, supremacist history, culture and laws in the U.S. This 'one drop rule' thing is not invented by Black twitter, it is a white supremacist racist American thing to label people by law to exclude them from all kinds of basic human rights. Sofar I know Vivian's roots are a meltingpot of European (e.g. Italian/Sicilian, Irish, German) as well as AfricanAmerican roots. Her AfricanAmerican ancestors already passed for white, and were registered as 'white' before Vivian's generation. Passing is another consequence of U.S. racist culture, and one of the mechanisms used by AfricanAmericans to advance in society. I guess that Vivian did not know about her Black and Mulatto ancestors. Since explicit racist segregational laws still existed until 1967 in the Southern States (as in South-Africa) it is still understandable that even if she knew about her 'one drop Black ancestry' she would have kept silent about it. If you are interested to know more ... One of the best books about passing is 'Autobiography of an ex-colored man' (1912/1927) by James Weldon Johnson.
So none of this apply to Vivian. I’m not sure why you’re posting somebody else’s narrative and talking about South Africa. You clearly didn’t watch the documentary about her or too much research. Only one of her 15 second great grandparents wasn’t all white. That second great grandmother was multiracial, and the third great grandmother was also multiracial. Everybody else was white. So the narrative was long buried and gone by the time she came along. Shed has unique features, but she doesn’t look that different than many Sicilians in southern Italians. if you were done more research and understand that there was a color line in this country and there was black and then a color line and then white. You could not be in between the line or the white on the black side of color white. Had she actually been black or even multi racial there never would’ve been a Johnny Cash. They would’ve been hounded out of existence.
Finally, mentioning passing isn’t fair because no one in Vivian‘s family history passed. The marriage between the multi racial almost completely white slave, and her white husband was out in the open, legally registered by the county recorder and then later, when he died, she moved to Mexico and married another white man and she and her family waited at the Civil War. They would’ve made sense that her children would’ve been white because that’s what they were. Who cares about what the laws were? Why should they have had to disrespect their identity when they were all predominately European anyway? Please search for a essay about Vivian on Medium called eugenics rebooted for more clarification. Don’t confuse passing with self identity.
Thank u 4 posting this. I always liked johnny cash music. And liked him bc he was fr the south in ark. Dyess not far fr where im fr. I really want to c the movie. Thank u
This reminds me of what Amy Grant did to Janice Gill. Vince Gill's first wife. But Janice is too beautiful for Vince. She is above Amy and Vince with her looks, integrity and morality. Amy supports the LGBT. So, tell Vince, when his Amy prays God doesn't even listen. John 9:31
@@superamanda DNA results don't necessarily reveal everything about a person's ancestry. My family has native South-American ancestry from 2 ancestors. An 18th century man, and a 19th century woman. Native South-American dna was passed on to me, of course in small %, but it did not appear in dna results of many other family members.
@@realmofthesenses Her genealogy on paper shows she was VERY European. Mist southern whites have much more and/or recent black ancestry. She cherished her Italian heritage.
Do you think that people were happier to receive June with Johnny because Vivian was part black? It’s sad to think so but The klan was threatening Johnny and Vivian when they were married because she clearly looked black .
Yet another indication that he was a great musician n a $h****y person... Sorry but... He broke her heart repeatedly....hard to celebrate the man when he was so bad
@big tornadoes The human species originated in Africa. Every human has some African DNA. I bet that you don't know why humans have all sorts of variations of skin colors and physical features. It's not rocket science.
They were young and young people think that's true love. Maybe it was at that time but he never loved anyone like he did June. This was his sole mate. She wasn't meant to be with him
Why make or write q book about anything pertaining to June she's not here to defend herself nor wqs she here after the book was wrote I no her kids probably said things but we don't really no Junea gone
June Carter Cash...A wonderful woman! Johnny loved her so much....he passed close to her I believe at the pain of losing her! She helped Johnny overcome so much tragedy! Johnny had moved on to the love of his life! Not saying anything bad about Vivian, but we never know what really goes on in a marriage! I am sure Johnny had his story!
@@yvettecain7447 how are you interpreting that comment as being ok with adultery? They loved each other plain and simple. Many people are married to the wrong person. Love is love.
@@Linda-in9ns I never meant what the negative person said...I never believe in adultery at all....in this case we don’t know if the marriage was on the rocks and I won’t judge anyone! June was a Christian lady and fell in love with Johnny....I was a sixties gal so knew more of this kind of thing than some. I will never bash the first wife...she seemed lovely, but I do know it was June who saved him from drugs so I admire her. I send love to Vivian too! Sorry she was hurt....I want being mean about the situation but trying to tell the younger ones Johnny needed June later in life to help his demons! I love you and glad we are here together too! I try to see both sides! I remember Johnny Cash and Elvis together! ❤️❤️
@@deniseperry4122 Thanks for understanding I didn’t mean adultery was ok...I was facing reality and June wasn’t the problem...Johnny had his many problems! He would have probably left Vivian on her own...sad on everyone!
I could never stand June center to me.she.not prett.y at all. Johnnie cash to me was beautiful.. I never stood why he wanted June carter but love is blind I guess.!!!!!
Glad I watched the documentary. I found Vivian to be a courageous woman, left alone and isolated and victimized by racist. Yet, she never shouted about it, she just did what she had to do to raise her children. Bravo to you Vivian - I celebrate you Vivian 🎉 your memory and your legacy.
This documentary was heartbreaking. All she ever did was love him endlessly and she was wronged over and over. After watching her documentary and reading her book i have nothing but the upmost respect for her
God bless her. So many women can relate, and she had to to live it publically as well.
When I read Vivian Liberto book ,I felt like she exposed her soul,all the cold blooded.truths her love for her family ,her humanitarian endeavors with finesse and couth.This world would be a better place with millions like Vivian Liberto.You are missed
Nancy Barbato Sinatra lived a similar life too.I wished that Elizabeth "Betty" Bisceglia Broderick had supportive friends like Vivian Liberto and Nancy Barbato Sinatra.I believe there would have been a better outcome instead of the circumstances that happened in Mission Valley (San Diego ) California.
I despise June Carter. June destroyed their marriage after watching how Johnny lost himself after meeting her.
It was a very good thing that the truth be told by Vivian.She was treated very badly by the press during the beginning of Johnny Cash's recording career. Fabulous woman.
This happened to Cynthia Lennon too.
Very good. So glad Vivian's story is being told. Sad that Hollywood so often twists things & causes wrong feelings & ideas. The truth would have been better.
I'm glad this documentary was made to tell her story. I just wished more people watched it.
I watched it after seeing your video and cannot put into words how my heart was broken for her, knowing how much she loved that man and how he was literally destroying her mentally and emotionally, leaving her all alone and their kids to raise without him like that. This is how he treated his own wife after giving him all of herself, her love, devotion and support all those years. He turned his back on her quite literally, all for the love of fame, drugs and lust, as 'if' she had hadn't even existed. Mind boggling. Well, out of sight, out of mind as the saying goes, only in this case, Cash took it quite too literally. Also, June knew precisely what she was doing, she warned Vivian that he (Johnny) would be hers. Even before this encounter, Vivian was right to instinctively fear her.
There are two sides to every story… finally it can be told
Every stay at home wife of a famous male musician who’s had their children and been with him for years knows that a June Carter is always around the corner.
...sadly, the true.
Or under a rock…
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I Walk The Line, was written by Johnny Cash for Vivian (before June existed in their lives?). But in the movie Walk The Line, they showed June as the one who inspired John to write it. What a stretch.
Hollywood
he wrote it after a show in Memphis that he opened for Elvis....Vivian was alarmed at the attention Elvis was getting from the ladies.....and rightfully worried so......
Well said.
I was a longtime Johnny Cash fan for years but the book etc has changed it for me. Read between the lines and he also smacked Vivian around as well.
The great love story they go on about is overpumped in my eyes. June blatantly stated to Vivian she'd get him eventually. It's quite hypocritical for the image they went on to portray.
HOLY CRAP ..
SHE IS GORGEOUS!
She was much prettier then June.
She was a mess. Pretty is as pretty does
She was a lot prettier and seemed to me she definitely got the bad end of the stick as the saying goes.She sat a home for years with the kids while he was out living the high life and seeing other women. Mainly June. Not judging but I can’t understand it really because she wasn’t very pretty and it was moma and sisters and dad who where really famous and June wasn’t that great of a singer either.. it’s none of my business but I watched this documentary as told by his own children so it can’t not be true. It really has my changed my opinion of these people and I somehow it’s changed my feelings towards the music as well…
Vivian wasn't addicted to drugs as Johnny sadly was. He suffered more than she did. You can't live a high life when you're tormented by drugs and booze. Vivian taking care of her children at home was a blessing, I'm sure.
Apparently, she did a good job.
She sacrificed for Johnny.
She is to be admired and honored.
Bull shit
But June had Johnny’s heart.
And Vivian happily remarried a police officer.
I wish they would make a movie 🎥 about Viviens life.
I don't know that much about Johnny Cash except was a country singer and a lot of people liked him but in all my years I never even heard about a Vivian only thing I ever heard of was June Carter Cash it's amazing when people tell their truth and that history what what they leave out thank you so much for bringing this to everyone's attention especially mine and I will be watching the documentary thank you
Thank u I never knew about Viv either I knew he had a daughter rosann cash but didn't know they had 4. I thought he just had a child by someone never knew that he was married gosh how come Noone knew her wow I knew Johnny Cash liked his music and knew he was fr dyess AR not far fr where I'm fr I thought he was only with June I want to c the movie too
I had the exact reaction to this documentary as the reviewer did! Walk the line is such a favorite movie of mine, but I’m so sad that Vivian was portrayed as a bitter, cold, nagging woman who thwarted Johnny’s career. This documentary made me cry for the beautiful love that was lost through a perfect storm of drugs, distance and infidelity. I know Johnny and June were a great love story, but I think his love with Vivian would’ve been just as great had those obstacles not been there.
I thought the fact that he willingly called the Catholic Diocese to reinstate Vivians membership... saying that she did nothing wrong in this situation and it was all on him, was proof that he still carried Vivian in his heart. I think if he had read those thousand letters on occasion he would’ve found a way to save his marriage.
I have a lot less respect for June Carter now, she’s not the saint the industry and John Carter Cash portrayed her as.
Susan Keller There are no saints in this world, just people trying to find love and happiness in life. Johnny was no saint either. He pursued June Carter until he had her, and there is no stopping that kind of passion. It's interesting, though that you pass no judgement on Johnny, just June Carter. Hmmm...
@@schoomzer well Johnny never was portrayed as a saint...so no need to comment on that. On the other hand the movie repeatedly portrayed June as the person who steered Johnny straight. From Vivian’s point of view Mama Maybell Carter and June had their sights set on John from the outset. And June falsely portrayed herself as a long suffering mother to those girls, which wasn’t true. By the way, passing judgement means one has decided another’s ultimate place in the eternities…I simply stated that I was disappointed to find the image that was presented in Walk the Line wasn’t accurate for June or Vivian for that matter. I do have a lot less respect for her, that’s just a fact.
@@susankeller4170 You missed the point. There are no saints amongst us in this world, but there is a wide range of good and bad people, so there was not need to hold June Carter to a higher standard, than Johnny Cash or anyone else. Naturally, Vivian was an angry woman because she was scorned.
@@schoomzer It’s obvious you didn’t see this documentary or you wouldn’t have called Vivian an angry woman...that’s the ‘story’ the movie fed us but it’s wrong. And I didn’t miss the point...I happen to have an OPINION, and it’s what I’ve stated.
@@susankeller4170 Vivian's perspective is jaded about June Carter. She was the woman that Vivian lost her beloved Johnny Cash to. You don't understand that the documentary is also biased in favor of Vivian. Of course, Vivian was angry. She resented June on many levels. June did help Johnny to deal with his vices. That's one of the reasons that June Carter was the love of his life. He did Vivian wrong. He was unfaithful. He wasn't there for her and his children, and he started another family with June. She had a right to be angry at him and at June Carter. Face the facts, Amanda. By the way, you didn't have to be Italian to be a cast member of the Jersey Shore reality show. You're actually amusing, Amanda.
After I watched I walked the line I never liked June;the movie made Vivian look like the evil one in reality the evil one was June.I don’t know what kind of a woman would deliberately break up a marriage just for the power trip.
Walk The Line depicts June as this sweet virtuous lady who didnt want any part of cheating and someone who fought off Johnny's advances. They portrayal doesnt match up with June's bad attitude.
The movie was so unfair to Vivian; it made me feel sick.
That movie, which i do love, is one of many wrong's that the entertainment industry committed against Vivian. I'm really glad this film was made to show people her side of the story.
Renee Santiago You personally witnessed June Carter's bad attitude? You factually know that June Carter didn't initially resist Johnny's advances?
June Carter cash was not a nice person. Phonie
@@schoomzer Oh, and you personally knew June, Schoomzer? Oh wait, it was Vivian that you knew. ...or was it Johnnie that introduced you?
Did not know John and Vivian had 4 Girls!!! That would make a GR8 Picture Book/Story, “ Girls”. We sure could use any light. Johnny Cash was a Beautiful Light...and Still loved! Bless You, Ladies!!
June pulled the oldest trick on Vivian in illicet-affair-history. She made the wife angry enough to kick him out into her waiting arms. This is what my mother said at the time it happened. Johnny wanted them both. He would have never made the decision to leave Vivian on his own. June would have eventually moved on when she realized Johnny was not going to leave Vivian.
I witnessed this with another woman in a triangle. The mistress’ friends would call the wife and “anonymously inform where the two lovers were. The wife caught them and kicked him out. He’s still with the other woman.
I'm surprised Vivian did that; it seems out of character. Vivian was a staunch Catholic. Didnt I read she was almost excommunicated and Johnny talked the bishop out of it? Also, Johnny Cash hadn't left Vivian YET.
@Jacklyn Everage She initiated the divorce but he was all for it. If he had wanted to stay he would have. Read his biography. He didn't love her anymore.
At the end of the day, Johnny could have stayed with Vivian. It’s not my place to judge, but it was ultimately his choice. He didn’t need June for his career but perhaps he needed her to get sober.
@Jacklyn Everage It is also believed that the divorce initiated by Viv was an ultimatum to scare Johnny into staying but it backfired. I don’t think she wanted the divorce despite the cheating. She was a devout Catholic.
@@thebigmick1977 Sadly, I cant imagine Cash staying with Vivian after the KKK thing happened. It would have probably ended his career. If that had happened surely the marriage would have been ruined. There is no way to envision a happy ending.
Johnny said he would always love Vivan. He lied .
One in three marriages fail. That’s life.
Wow, I didn’t know HATE, JEALOUSY and RACISM was so cAnCerous to the point that it could cause Johnny to leave his 4 girls smh ..
Racism had nothing to do with the marriage ending. It was an ugly chapter in the families history but it was not a factor in the divorce or the marriage ending. They were madly in love for many years. They were together for 13.
@@superamanda I was an attempt at pointing out the bad people who were speaking out on this extremely beautiful woman and a rising star country singer ...
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May I ask?? What made this so ugly??
@@jorjakelley2771 please read this as it explains what happened historically not with gossip. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Cash
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Thank you, much appreciated!!!!
I love the movie walk the line, but it doesn’t portrayed Johnny Cash as well either. Yeah they showed he’s a good singer and everything, but they didn’t show his good side. For example his son John said he was a great father, and had so much light. I wish they would have showed that more. Other than that, I really love the movie too.
The scandals and controversies always sell more tickets. I think that’s more of an indictment of our society.
I always hate when things come out after someone's death, all of this could have been told when all three were still alive and could've defended their actions, all three were wonderful people caught up living life.
I so agree why not say things when people are qlive
Agree 👍
No one in the media was willing to give Vivian the time of day. There was no way she could have told her side of the story while all three were alive.
well said
so sad for her
This is a really good review. I will be watching the documentary soon. It is sad that they try to erase Vivian's story. but a lot of us knew all along the reason she was being treated that way is because she was mixed with Black.
No. If she’d been mixed or viewed as mixed there’d never have been a Johnny Cash. There’s no Imitation of Life here!. She was born, educated, married and resided as white her entire life.
@@superamanda ??? Clearly people did think that she had blackened her. Otherwise they wouldn't have written a newspaper article calling her a negro
@@aimjbtnh3 I get that Far Right KKK people were upset and published a fake article in Thunderbolt but many of those racist southern people were hiding their own black ancestry! She and Johnny Cash lived in Tennessee when they still had the One Drop. The color line wasn’t as binary as people today think it was.
If I remember right, she was Sicilian decent. With her extremely dark hair and olive skin, she looked black in those old black and white pictures. That’s where that rumor got started. As if it should matter, but at that time, it did matter. Still does in some places, unfortunately.
Also, that you guys for the discussion. I hope you got to watch the documentary and enjoyed it. I think I’m going to reformat the channel to do exclusively small independent films as there are already too many people reviewing mainstream movies. Any input would be appreciated.
Good review. Heard a lot about Vivian these past few weeks.
The movie was a movie, not a documentary, there is always stories from both sides that depict one another
You are Spot on. I have seen hundreds of videos about this as well as Walk the Line. Your Video is by far the most accurate and correct. I absolutely love that you made this. Might be my favorite youtube video ever
Thank you so much for the compliment. I haven't made any content in a while, but i recently saw the reaction this video got and I'm rethinking that.
Again, thank you for the kind words and I am glad you enjoyed the video.
The music industry thought Vivian was Black. Or looked Black. Bad for business.
I know and that's sad.
She was!
Henry Louis Gates found that she did. She did have black ancestry from very distant great grandmother. Her 3rd great grandmother was biracial and freed from slavery from her white master. Her African genes just did not fade. Her hair was dark and curly and tan and she had a round nose.
@@jasminepearls1047 With modern technology, those things are easily found out. I, myself, always thought I was mostly of Irish ethnicity. Found out after my mom and i did this that we are mostly Dutch. We also found out that we had small amounts of Middle Eastern, African, and Neanderthal, and one other group that we'd never heard of. I can't remember the name but they were contemporary with Neanderthals. Fascinating what technology can uncover these days.
@@lauramorgan2928 Apparently she was. I wanted to clarify (just in case there is any misunderstanding), I don't think it's sad that she had a black ancestor; rather I think it's sad that her and Johnny had to go through discrimination because of it.
Glad more and more people are learning the truth. I saw the documentary. Viviann was a beautiful woman and my heart went out to her. She certainly did not deserve the harsh treatment she received after raising their 4 girls on her own. Really sad.
Thank you often wondered but Vivian side of the story
So why did Rosanne Cash, Johnny Cash, and everybody else go around calling June his soulmate and love of his life if all she did was steal Cash from Vivian? In her autobiography, Rosanne Cash states that her mother, understandably, could not see that Johnny and June were meant to be together. She has said on more than one occasion that her father would not have lived as long as he did without June.
I'm all for them setting the record straight about how their mother has been portrayed, but the man has stated in his own words many times that June was the love of his life. He even said he told her he was going to marry her one day while still being married to Vivian. He said these things.
If anyone is the villain here, it's Cash. June wasn't anywhere Johnny didn't want her to be.
I'm not sure this is a story about heroes and villains. I don't doubt that June was the love of his life, and she was instrumental in getting his vices under control. The tragedy, as I see it, is how Hollywood and Nashville treated Vivian and portrayered her a an unhinged jealous woman. I understand liberties are always going to be taken when adapting a story to film, but her portrayal focused mainly on her negative aspects.
Personally, I don't think Johnny or June are bad people. Sometimes, people fall out of love or fall in love with someone else. It's always happened and always will happen. It's the treatment of Vivian by the elietes, including June reportedly, but not Johnny from what I've read.
I have always been a fan of Vivian. She had such beauty and class. June knew exactly what she was doing to break that marriage up.
June didn't break up the marriage. She wasn't married to Vivian. It was Johnny who broke the vows . It was his responsibilty to leave his daughters. Johnny left Vivian for his own Fortune. Think about it.
Cash was involved with billy graham
Maybe he should have told him to stay together!
Sorry to have to tell you but Billy Graham was a Freemason, look up the documentary on him and how he started and who controlled him.
Oh right, like ol' Billy boy would have supported an interracial marriage to a Brown woman?
It was a well done documentary. It’s on Prime rent for $0.99.
Good review!
Elvis will always be the 👑👑👑👑👑👑🤟. Joe thank u soooooooooo much for this video.👌
I don't recall johhny Cash or June Carter Cash ever professing to be perfect people. Most are bashing them on here. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw boulders....right? I still love my Cash records and listen to his music happily 😊
I don't do twitter, and I have no idea what exactly is discussed there on the subject of Vivian Liberto and Johnny Cash. However, racism was and is a brutal force in personal lives of those who were (are) in a mixed marriage. Esp. in countries with at the time racist segregational laws like (specific states in) U.S., and South-Africa during Apartheid (which is another name for Segregation). WikiPedia on One-drop-rule: "The one-drop rule is a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of "black blood") is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms)... This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation." The so called one drop rule is part of American culture, and it is part of white racist, supremacist history, culture and laws in the U.S. This 'one drop rule' thing is not invented by Black twitter, it is a white supremacist racist American thing to label people by law to exclude them from all kinds of basic human rights. Sofar I know Vivian's roots are a meltingpot of European (e.g. Italian/Sicilian, Irish, German) as well as AfricanAmerican roots. Her AfricanAmerican ancestors already passed for white, and were registered as 'white' before Vivian's generation. Passing is another consequence of U.S. racist culture, and one of the mechanisms used by AfricanAmericans to advance in society. I guess that Vivian did not know about her Black and Mulatto ancestors. Since explicit racist segregational laws still existed until 1967 in the Southern States (as in South-Africa) it is still understandable that even if she knew about her 'one drop Black ancestry' she would have kept silent about it. If you are interested to know more ... One of the best books about passing is 'Autobiography of an ex-colored man' (1912/1927) by James Weldon Johnson.
So none of this apply to Vivian. I’m not sure why you’re posting somebody else’s narrative and talking about South Africa. You clearly didn’t watch the documentary about her or too much research. Only one of her 15 second great grandparents wasn’t all white. That second great grandmother was multiracial, and the third great grandmother was also multiracial. Everybody else was white. So the narrative was long buried and gone by the time she came along. Shed has unique features, but she doesn’t look that different than many Sicilians in southern Italians. if you were done more research and understand that there was a color line in this country and there was black and then a color line and then white. You could not be in between the line or the white on the black side of color white. Had she actually been black or even multi racial there never would’ve been a Johnny Cash. They would’ve been hounded out of existence.
Finally, mentioning passing isn’t fair because no one in Vivian‘s family history passed. The marriage between the multi racial almost completely white slave, and her white husband was out in the open, legally registered by the county recorder and then later, when he died, she moved to Mexico and married another white man and she and her family waited at the Civil War. They would’ve made sense that her children would’ve been white because that’s what they were. Who cares about what the laws were? Why should they have had to disrespect their identity when they were all predominately European anyway? Please search for a essay about Vivian on Medium called eugenics rebooted for more clarification. Don’t confuse passing with self identity.
Liberto NOT Lombardo
King of Rock n' Roll: Little Richard
Little Richard is the king of Rock-n-Roll
Some songs Elvis song was stolen from black people. How then can he be King of rock n roll?
Thanks for this!
Thank u 4 posting this. I always liked johnny cash music. And liked him bc he was fr the south in ark. Dyess not far fr where im fr. I really want to c the movie. Thank u
Great review thank you and I hope I get to see the documentary and your handsome btw very cute
I will definitely check this out.
Why make a movie when the other side of the story Johnny cash died.
Two sides to every story
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Thank you for sharing it
God bless you for sharing it
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Beautiful Vivian.
If you leave a comment supporting the other side the comment disappears pretty quickly. Sorry there are two sides, not just one side.
I thought it was a very good documentary. I'm glad that it brought forth Vivien's truth. She had to deal with a lot.
This reminds me of what Amy Grant did to Janice Gill. Vince Gill's first wife. But Janice is too beautiful for Vince. She is above Amy and Vince with her looks, integrity and morality. Amy supports the LGBT. So, tell Vince, when his Amy prays God doesn't even listen. John 9:31
I loved also
How old were they when they met?
Johnny was Iroquois.. Elvis was Chickasaw Kings in 20th Century Music
Johnny Cash iwas spiritually a Native American and he was appreciated by natives but his daughter had zero native DNA.
@@superamanda DNA results don't necessarily reveal everything about a person's ancestry. My family has native South-American ancestry from 2 ancestors. An 18th century man, and a 19th century woman. Native South-American dna was passed on to me, of course in small %, but it did not appear in dna results of many other family members.
@@realmofthesenses Her genealogy on paper shows she was VERY European. Mist southern whites have much more and/or recent black ancestry. She cherished her Italian heritage.
Thanx mom!🤭🤭🤭
I never liked June Carter to begin with. Never thought she could sing either. She acted like her crap didn't stink.
I'm from TN.
Thank you
Do you think that people were happier to receive June with Johnny because Vivian was part black? It’s sad to think so but The klan was threatening Johnny and Vivian when they were married because she clearly looked black .
Yet another indication that he was a great musician n a $h****y person... Sorry but... He broke her heart repeatedly....hard to celebrate the man when he was so bad
I don't think the name was Lombardi.
Vivian had black ancestry
SO!
So.
@@andreemariaboyd3947 So why they whitewash her in the movie!
@big tornadoes The human species originated in Africa. Every human has some African DNA. I bet that you don't know why humans have all sorts of variations of skin colors and physical features. It's not rocket science.
Nicole Blount, so do you and every human. The human species originated in Africa.
Reminds me of Rosario dawson
If only polygamy was legal and socially acceptable there wouldn't have been a family breakup.
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They were young and young people think that's true love. Maybe it was at that time but he never loved anyone like he did June. This was his sole mate. She wasn't meant to be with him
You don’t show any clips of the movie are you kidding me
Too much information!
Wtf the movie whitewashed her.
Black woman unfadable baby.
Why make or write q book about anything pertaining to June she's not here to defend herself nor wqs she here after the book was wrote I no her kids probably said things but we don't really no Junea gone
June Carter Cash...A wonderful woman! Johnny loved her so much....he passed close to her I believe at the pain of losing her! She helped Johnny overcome so much tragedy! Johnny had moved on to the love of his life! Not saying anything bad about Vivian, but we never know what really goes on in a marriage! I am sure Johnny had his story!
So your saying it's ok to commit adultery?
@@yvettecain7447 how are you interpreting that comment as being ok with adultery? They loved each other plain and simple. Many people are married to the wrong person. Love is love.
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@@Linda-in9ns I never meant what the negative person said...I never believe in adultery at all....in this case we don’t know if the marriage was on the rocks and I won’t judge anyone! June was a Christian lady and fell in love with Johnny....I was a sixties gal so knew more of this kind of thing than some. I will never bash the first wife...she seemed lovely, but I do know it was June who saved him from drugs so I admire her. I send love to Vivian too! Sorry she was hurt....I want being mean about the situation but trying to tell the younger ones Johnny needed June later in life to help his demons! I love you and glad we are here together too! I try to see both sides! I remember Johnny Cash and Elvis together! ❤️❤️
@@deniseperry4122 Thanks for understanding I didn’t mean adultery was ok...I was facing reality and June wasn’t the problem...Johnny had his many problems! He would have probably left Vivian on her own...sad on everyone!
You ramble to much
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I could never stand June center to me.she.not prett.y at all. Johnnie cash to me was beautiful.. I never stood why he wanted June carter but love is blind I guess.!!!!!
George Zimmerman is Black. His grandfather was Afro Peruvian therefore he is Black by the one drop...oops!
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