Canon PRO-200 Which papers are best? What types work well?

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  • @CinematographyLischka
    @CinematographyLischka 6 місяців тому +3

    After studying your videos I have treated myself with a pro-200. Thanks a lot for all the advice.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  6 місяців тому

      Thanks - Hope it goes well for you!

    • @mantassutkus4710
      @mantassutkus4710 2 місяці тому +1

      Same here. Your knowledge, insights and results helped make a decision that this printer is what I was looking for. Also, your articles help so much. Thank you!

  • @vinrc
    @vinrc 2 роки тому +2

    thanks for all your video's Keith. Got my pro-200 last week and love it. Early days yet but love the quality of the prints, although I have only done some a3 b&w so far.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      Thanks - glad they are of interest!

  • @kimbohning2098
    @kimbohning2098 Рік тому +2

    Thanks four that information Keith I do have a Canon pro200 printer I’m impressed with glossy paper works well. take care mate.

  • @kore996
    @kore996 Рік тому +1

    ⚠️ Off Topic:
    I’m about to buy a Canon Pro 200 today and was concerned about ink usage or longer periods of time without printing. I was talking to my wife last night to explain that I think we should be printing at least one 4x6 photo a week and hopefully that’ll keep the printer working ok and not waste ink on cleaning cycles. Do you have any thoughts or criticisms about my plan?
    If we print enough then maybe we will one day upgrade to the Pro 1000…for now this is personal use.
    I have a spinal injury so it makes life in general difficult so this is one part of wanting a home photo printer instead of outsourcing and I don’t like the shipping aspect since I’m impatient and I feel having a home printer would keep us in the flow more and make colour adjustments easier when they are required. The other part is we have a toddler who likes taking photos with us and going through the whole process would be fun and educational…even though he’s only 3.5 years old.
    I’ve had really bad experiences in the past with inkjet printers and even with almost full ink cartridges they say they are empty or low…this was like a decade ago or longer and since then I’ve used a home B&W laser printer or outsourced my colour and photo prints.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      The 200 is more resistant than many to lack of use - I'd be OK leaving one for a few weeks. I left one for 6 months and it was fine after a few cleanings - not recommended, but good to know
      As to teaching ... 3 is a reasonable age to start learning about colour management ;-)

    • @kore996
      @kore996 Рік тому +1

      @@KeithCooper ok great. Thanks for the info…I did see that video about 6 months not being used but more so seeing if it’s possible to use the printer frequently enough that it doesn’t need to do the cleaning cycle…at least not often.
      I gave him my old point and shoot when he was about 18 months old because he kept wanting my full frame camera and while his finger can be frequently in front of the lens he does get some photos and even instructs us as to how to sit or position 😂

  • @bifcake
    @bifcake 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Keith, thanks again for a quality video. I really enjoy watching them. I find them to be very educational.
    I was wondering if you would quantify a few things:
    1. You mentioned that color looks good, but not as good as pigment inks. How so? In what way does that quality difference manifest itself?
    2. The same question goes for Baryta papers.
    3. You also mentioned that when printing black and white, some papers work better in black and white mode and some work better with a profile. How would you know to try the profile? What do you look for? Please quantify "better".
    Thanks again.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому +1

      'Not as good' here is only a subjective generalisation in that pigments on some papers can have a wider gamut and smoothness - of course, pigment ink printers tend to have a wider range of colours.
      One aspect is that I look at one of my test images for smoothness of gradients and transitions between colours (see the download page for the images I use for more explanations)
      Print quality is a tricky one to quantify - so much so that I almost never ever do it. Certainly not in videos ;-) Don't forget, it's also dependent on the quality of printer profiles.
      For B&W see the article
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-200/
      'Better' is not quantifiable - well it _can_ be, but requires so much explanation and background info that I'd only ever think of covering it in a written article. The videos are simply not (well for me anyway) somewhere to go into any detailed technical stuff. They can't be updated/refined/edited/corrected - that's why they are generally supplements to written articles ;-) All my videos are unscripted and many shot in one take... ;-)
      Now, some people's reviews go into things like 'gamut volume' and include lots of spurious data and graphs - I dislike these, since they never explain what such things actually mean or give any explanation as to what relevance the presented data has. Just presenting data to look good is not my preferred approach ;-)
      Hope that helps?

    • @bifcake
      @bifcake 2 роки тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware that pigment inks had a wider gamut and smoother gradations. I thought the gradation smoothness was a function of the size of the ink dots and their amount. That's good to know. I'll read the article. I may have more questions after I finish reading it.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      Indeed, its not just the characteristics of the ink - but how they are put down on the media and how they interact with the media.
      email me if you like - these comment boxes are clunky to use!

  • @martinpanco
    @martinpanco 3 місяці тому +1

    hi Keith, thanks for the review. I have just bought a pro-200 for a small wedding invitations etc business. I have so far outsourced the printing to a local printshop so have never really cared about the exact type of paper and printer they use. However, now I have been searching and educating myself about the various types of paper. I have found several 300gsm matte cardstock papers which I need, but none if them is specifically made to be used for an inkjet printer. Usually they are recommended to be used for "Flexo, Laser/Dry toner, Offset, Rotogravure". In general, is it enough for the paper to be coated to be used by pixma pro-200? Or do you have any video explaining types of paper suitable for inkjets other than photopapers?
    Thank you!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks - basically any card for use with this [or similar] printers needs to be created for inkjet use. Papers of the type you mention typically vary between poor and awful on aqueous inkjet printers. [I've a video looking at printers for cards tomorrow]
      Essentially, any time I see the word cardstock appear in a question I almost already know the results are not good...
      In the UK I'd suggest Paper Spectrum/Fotospeed/PermaJet to contact - in the US, Red River
      Elsewhere - no idea ;-)
      See my proper [i.e. written] review for the PRO-200 for what I tested.
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

    • @martinpanco
      @martinpanco 3 місяці тому

      @@KeithCooper thank you!

  • @GravelRat
    @GravelRat Рік тому +1

    Another excellent video… Keith, I am just starting out and wanting to do family and friends greeting cards, up to A3 photos on various medium… Which printer - so confusing.. Would the Pro 200 do the job or is it overkill/underkill. Or is Epson better…. So hard to work it out…Thanks in advance

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Thanks - See my proper [written] reviews for more
      The PRO-200 is a good printer, but not an ink tank printer, so more expensive to run
      See
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

    • @GravelRat
      @GravelRat Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you so much for your speedy response, and amazing depth of analysis on these printers. I think I have to make a choice between these two..

  • @messylaura
    @messylaura 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Keith, does canon print layout software in conjunction with the pixma pro 200 allow to you to set up and print A1 as 4 separate A3 sheets so you can print a quarter of the image on each sheet to form the A1 size when mounting the A3 images post print?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      No, no software I've come across does that. Maybe it's in some of the consumer 'pretty picture' type software that comes with the printers, but it's so basic I never test it
      But... I only test on Macs - I'm sure I've seen it as a windows thing somewhere, but I've not used one of them this century ;-)

  • @robertbrown9785
    @robertbrown9785 Рік тому

    great review..thanks!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful!
      There is a lot more PRO-200 info in he main [written] review at
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

  • @deadwood1887
    @deadwood1887 Рік тому

    Keith, What is the nearest paper that is compatible with the Canon PRO-300 that is similar to Metallic Pearl? Great videos.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Thanks
      The metallic pearl will work with a suitable profile - I don't recall testing this one though so I can't say for sure

    • @deadwood1887
      @deadwood1887 Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you Keith.

  • @messylaura
    @messylaura 2 роки тому +1

    with the pro 200 dye based inks do they need sealing or fixing if water splashes are likely, is there a fixative procedure etc that you recommend ?
    what type of base were the pixma 100 inks?
    also thank you for the time effort and quality of the videos you have made, very useful.
    if one was going to leave the pixma pro 200 un used for a couple of months is there a way to flush the system to stop it drying up or would the removal of the carts when half full void them for later use (i'm not sure how the chip thing works)

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому +2

      There's no real way of knowing without trying. Given they are water based inks, any water splashes will almost certainly damage the print. Any coating would need to be substantial
      The 100/200 use similar inks
      Removing carts and flushing is really not a good idea for all sorts of reasons. When you put carts back you waste ink refilling the heads.
      Flushing would also void any warranty if damage occurred.

    • @LuckieProductions
      @LuckieProductions 6 місяців тому

      ​​​@@KeithCooper in that case, would you recommend getting an A3 laminator for sealing purposes or how would you normally apply coating on the prints?
      Thanks in advance. 🙏

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  6 місяців тому +1

      @@LuckieProductions A lot depends on the sort of lamination - I've seen several, but have not done any testing or evaluation. You can find spray fixatives, but I don't like the fumes...

    • @LuckieProductions
      @LuckieProductions 6 місяців тому

      @@KeithCooper thank you 🙏 but I can't seem to find much coverage on lamination here on UA-cam, maybe I'll try looking into spray fixative options in my local hardware store.
      I remember using a kind of spray in a hotel function room to waterproof coffee painting during an art workshop.
      That might work for my use case scenario, probably easier and better than lamination. 🙌

  • @thegreenco7896
    @thegreenco7896 2 роки тому

    Hey Keith, im not sure if this is possible but if you can could you do a review of the Canon G540? Im thinking of purchasing that printer because the PRO-200 is not available in South Africa, unfortunately. Im a digital illustrator and I need a printer for my art prints. Thank you

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      Probably not - there is no G540 here. I did a G550 review - fine unless you use Macs, where the colour management is broken by forced use of AirPrint

  • @MrPhillipgraham
    @MrPhillipgraham 2 місяці тому

    Hi Keith, I just bought this printer and I need to buy some paper. I know you said don't go and buy loads of sample packs but what should I do? The only photo paper I have is the free pro platinum samples that came included. Should I just buy some basic Canon matt paper to start? Thanks.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 місяці тому +1

      If you really like matt then do so, but I'd normally suggest a Canon Lustre - or whatever similar the printer lists in its media settings.
      See the main review for papers I tried
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

    • @MrPhillipgraham
      @MrPhillipgraham 2 місяці тому

      @@KeithCooper Cheers Keith, have a Great day.

  • @giovannibaga6108
    @giovannibaga6108 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for info. I'm using this princetr since 1 year now. I've learned that they are no bad papers (if you select a reputable brand) but photos that are working with some papers and not working with other papers. Now when I have a photo to print I can figure on which paper I have to print it. Another matter si for Baryta. I had good success with a Baryta papers because I'm using pure white baryta smooth with some OBA. I read somwhere that for dye printer papers with OBA works better. Do it seems correct/possible to you?
    Another experience I had with a paper specifically intended for B/W with dye ink produced by ILFORD, that is Mono Silk Warmtone (a photo RC paper): I've got mixed result in B/W. I'm not satisfied at all. But I had with this paper very good results for COLOR photos of panoramas and animals in Africa. Very strange. I've not yet figured why this papers seems to work better out of it’s design range.
    Im' still to find a B/W paper that works well. Suggestions?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks - as you say, paper choice is everything.
      There are no real paper solutions to B&W - just experimenting and making profiles as needed. This is my main article about B&W on the 200
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-200/

    • @giovannibaga6108
      @giovannibaga6108 2 роки тому

      @@KeithCooper yes I've read. You sticked with Canon Museum Etching that basically is the Hannemuele Museum Etching paper (so it's saying canon :-) ). But it's textured natural white not bright white. Do natural white and textured works better with B/W in your opinion?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому +1

      @@giovannibaga6108 Ah, testing does depend on what papers I have available and I prefer to do my basic reviews with OEM papers ;-)
      My personal prefs, as papers, not for any particular printer, are smooth bright and natural (Innova versions) but there is no 'better' given tastes and images vary so much.
      However If I'm doing B&W I much prefer pigment inks, since I know the results are more consistent

  • @MikeJB6
    @MikeJB6 Рік тому

    Great video, Keith. One question concerning Canon inks; how long would you say is the safe shelf life for them? I'm considering purchasing a Pro-200 and was thinking that I might purchase a few extra packs of full ink sets at the same time. Just a little worried that it may take a year or two to get through them, maybe more.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Several years unopened - I've some from the original review that I'll just give a bit of a shake to when I use them...

    • @victoro3210
      @victoro3210 Рік тому

      Thank you so much have a great day

  • @williamoneill5498
    @williamoneill5498 Рік тому

    Great video Keith, very helpful. Can I ask, which file format do you typically print all your images from? Once you have finished with a RAW file, do you print from that in the Canon printing app, or do you export to TIFF/JPEG and print from there?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      Thanks - For any of my big prints, the master file will be a Photoshop.psd format - this preserves layers and editing capability.
      These demos are whatever illustrates the hardware/software/workflow I happen to be using ;-)
      I only save jpegs (at max quality) for some print purposes [test images] where I know they will not be edited any more. For the Canon or Epson printing apps I use them directly from within Photoshop - so no intermediate files are made.
      However I should note that I don't actually use small printers like this one in my work (see for example my P5000, P7500 and older Canon large format reviews)

    • @williamoneill5498
      @williamoneill5498 Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Understood thanks. I don't use photoshop myself, not comfortable with their rental business model, and just starting into printing recently, I was wondering what would be a good base format to print from. Makes sense to use PDS files for photoshop users.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Yes - photoshop is a tool for my 'real job' so considerations of their business model impinge little [but still one I avoided for as long as possible]
      A lot depends on your editing software choices - I still retain ALL my raw files though ;-)

    • @williamoneill5498
      @williamoneill5498 Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Understood on commercial considerations. I've decided to go down the ON1 road, so let's see how that turns out.

    • @jamesmlodynia8757
      @jamesmlodynia8757 Рік тому

      Years ago when I started printing I heard that if you had a pigment based primer that if you don't print often the pigment inks can settle and you should shake the inks another issue was clogging if the printer sat with out being used for a time. Any way I have been using Canon Pixma pro printers for 15 years with dye based inks on Canon and Redriver photo paper with very good results.

  • @beemot84
    @beemot84 Рік тому

    Hi Keith, I’m thinking of buying the Canon Pro 200 for my prints. I would need it to print paintings or posters similar to the advertising prints of the 70’s or the posters of the films, in short, not to print photos, but drawings and graphic designs. In your opinion, is it a good choice as a printer for this type of use?
    Thank you

    • @beemot84
      @beemot84 Рік тому

      Also for this type of project which paper would you recommend to use?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      I can't say for sure, since I've never looked at such a print close-up, with my printer testing hat on ;-)
      What sort of paper? [it will need to be one aimed at inkjet use]

  • @messylaura
    @messylaura 2 роки тому

    Hi Keith, very new to photo printers, i was looking for a retailer here in the uk for the canon pro 200 and i'm not finding it in the usual places, could you recommend a retailer?
    thanks, i'm in London uk myself

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      I only know a few personally [Park cameras, Fotospeed, Permajet] - probably many others, but I don't personally know them

  • @ralvin3474
    @ralvin3474 Рік тому

    Hi! Can I print a silk paper on it? for flyer use

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Depends entirely on the paper - it needs to be a paper meant for inkjet use

  • @victoro3210
    @victoro3210 Рік тому

    Hi Keith my canon pro 200 want allow me to print a 13x19 matte photo it tells me resize do you any ideas why

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      You have to set the margin over-ride in the printer driver settings IIRC

  • @molliehewitt4497
    @molliehewitt4497 2 роки тому

    Hi, Keith. Can you please tell me if you can print 3.5” square prints with the pixma pro 200? I was gifted some of this size Canon paper and have the pixma pro 200. Thank you!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  2 роки тому

      No - check the paper sizes at
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/#specifications
      Min width is 89mm, so OK there, but min length is 127mm
      So 89mm square is seemingly not supported

    • @molliehewitt4497
      @molliehewitt4497 2 роки тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you, Keith.

  • @VeniVidiVici444
    @VeniVidiVici444 Рік тому

    Does transparency paper work? I want to do screenprint.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      With the right media it does, but the density achievable may not be enough, compared with pigment inks.
      Not a print process I know though...

  • @catherinecervantes5023
    @catherinecervantes5023 Рік тому

    hi hello i just got a canon printer 200 and i would like to know how print out wallets?