Overview of the Canon Pro300 and Canon Pro200 - Fotospeed | Paper for Fine Art & Photography
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- This week Tim is looking at the Canon Pro300 and Pro200 and comparing both the printers. Which will come out on top and which one would Tim choose.
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I've had a Pro 100 since 2013 (maybe longer) and have never noticed any fading with the prints. Dye based inks like the 200. I don't have them stored carefully, just laying around for the most part.
Thanks for that. I use the 200 which I bought from you and am very happy with the results. At my age 100 year archival is not top of my list!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for the review!
At first glance a Pro-300 looks better than a Pro-200. However, after a bit of researching I've come to a conclusion that Pro-100/100s/200 printers may be better not only Pro-10/10s/300 but even a Pro-1000!
1. Longevity. According to The Light Fade test reports from Aardenburg Imaging and Archives the longevity of Chromalife 100+ dye inks is on par or even better tgan the longevity of Lucia Pro pigment inks!
2. The colour vibrancy. It's obvious that the colour vibrancy of pigment printers is inferior.
3. Smooth tone transitions. Pigment prints have more "noise" and less details.
4. Darkroom like prints. It looks like dye prints resemble traditional darkroom prints more than pigment prints. Pigments are on the surface while dyes are in the surface of papers like in traditional prints.
5. BW neutrality. Surely, the bw neutrality of dye printers depend on specific papers more tgan pigment printets but the neutrality is stkll possible. Some papers are just better than others in this regard. Also, you mentioned earlier in your videos a very good way of getting the neutrality by using the Canon printing plugin. One or two test prints must be enough for that.
Hi there, that really really good to hear dye ink technology has come a long way and i will defiantly be taking a look at the references. Tim
I have the Pro 200 and absolutely love it! Still amazed at the images it produces especially on the pro platinum paper
@@Dr_GraysGhost_420 try also some papers of other brands. Some papers look much better than Canon Platinum.
@@OrelRussia Do you know of some? I’ve tried a few so far and the pro platinum looks the best but I’d love to find some cheaper alternatives.
@@Dr_GraysGhost_420 Yes, I know many other papers which are much better. However, usually they are more expensive, not cheaper. For example, Canson Platine Fibre Rag, Ilford Gold Fibre Pearl, Epson Traditional Photo Paper, etc.
Also, you should know that Canon Platinum is not very good in terms of longevity. It becomes yellow rather quickly.
EASY: One Epson P900 for archival and matte fine art archival prints up to A2 and one Pro200 for commercial A6 to A3+ for high saturation commercial high gloss and metallics! Still a relatively low cost solution for the bulk of all imaging bureau production!
I guess if you don't know too much about printing but need pro results ... get the 300 (peace of mind!)
Depends on what your printing Jac. Dye inks will give much better vibrant colour everytime.
My first in road into printing has been via the P300. My only real world comparison is my wet printing in my darkroom (shed). The P300 for me returns great results that are similar to what I would expect from the enlarger. This is on Black and White and as for colour, I have limited experience, but from what I have printed so far in colour, I am more than happy with the results. The help you guys at FS have given re paper choice when I have emailed you has been spot on, and for that I thank you.
I wish you well.
Hi Dave, thank you for your comments and i will pass on your kind words. Tim
Of the A3+, the Epson L18050 is the best, but in these you have to change or refill cartridges very often... more fiddling than printing.. ;)
A Great video Tim, you're really good at explaining the workings of these printers, very informative and id just like to add that you do rem8nd me a lot of a good friend of mine, a friend who i haven't seen in a long time, but we were ( without going into too much detail )..... very close❤. Trying to choose which printer to buy is a real pain in the butt, you can spend hours watching videos and readind reviews, after all a printer is an investment. My only criticism of these review videos is no-one ever explains what thickness paper the printer that they're reviewing can take.....WHY THE HELL NOT?? That is the key question that many people want to know, especially crafters and artists, it's so frustrating when no one covers this point. I know that printer companies have their own printer papers but i want to print my art using watercolour & mixed media paper and I'm pretty certain that both these printers can handle those papers of a thickness of 300 gsm. I will have dig deeper to find out for myself, either through reviews or by speaking to retailers myself. Thankyou once again Tim, but in future videos please try and include the maxium paper weights that the printers can handle, have a great day mate.
Thanks Mate great video, I like the pro 300 just because it has more colors and it is more current, worth every dime.
Would love to upgrade to the Pro 200, sadly I'm not in the sort of financial position to be able to, I'm full time carer for my disabled wife so any spare money is at a massive premium.
I don't know whether you've already covered this, it would be great if you would do a video on budget printers, such as the Canon Pixma ix6850 and/or equivalent printers from other makes, not everyone can afford to throw big money at printers, sorry if you've already covered this subject, many thanks
Hi Dave, keep watching in the coming weeks as I have made a few videos on the budget printer from Epson and Canon. Tim
@@FotospeedUK Thanks Tim, I'll definitely keep my eye's open for them,
Just want to say that I am sorry about your wife, but its also heartwarming to see that you are a caring and devoted husband! I wish you both well, and hoepfly one day you will be able to get that dream printer…
I’ve just seen your message to Tim on UA-cam about the fact that you couldn’t afford a Canon printer, I’ve been in your shoes, I looked after my dying mother for 2 years 24/7, it was one of the hardest thing I’ve had to deal with in my life, so I sympathise with you Dave, are you still hopeful of getting a printer for your photos, if so I can help, I have a Canon Pixma IP8750 A3plus 5 colour printer 🖨️ it produces brilliant colour & B&W prints, I don’t need it any longer Dave so I’m willing to donate it to you, if you can pay for the cost of getting it to you Postage, it’s yours free of charge Dave, let me know mate😊
Great video. Would you though buy the p200 if you print lots of color prints and the p1000 for those gallery prints in larger sizes and longevity. Or just buy the p300 and p1000?. I sort of think the p300 as a "I only own one printer" as a pro photographer selling my work. The p200 if you are not printing for gallery/selling prints but need high quality prints (product/event prints for companies for example). For someone for whom photography is only a hobby the p200 is more than good enough for hang on the wall prints and gift cards ect would you agree?
Hi i want to know is it compatible if i use pro 300 for label sticker for business beginner?
Has anyone info about how sensitive are these printers to head clogging with infrequent use? I print some 2-3 photos per month with peaks at 10-15 prints per month and the Epson L1800 we have now is a nightmare with clogging.
The 300 doesnt have 2 greys, the 200 does. The 300 has 2 blacks.
Hello, thanks for the video explanations. I work in the production of small personalized boxes for festive events. However, I would like to know if you have already tested some of these with papers weighing more than 260 grams/m2. Thank you if you reply.
Hello. Thanks for the video. I'm looking to buy a printer for vinyl vehicle stickers, probably something that uses pigment based ink to get my prints more durable exposed to the weather. Do you have any suggestions for a budget of 500-600$. I'm interested in Canon and Epson brands. Thank you!
Anyone else think there was a spec on their screen?
Problem with these A3+ plus sizes is framing and non standard mount sizes?
Does this have the same AirPrint problem as the 550/650? As in Mac vs PC?
very helpful! thanks!
You're welcome!
Just FYI, that is NOT the Brooklyn Bridge.
Did anyone in the US make a video of the Canon Printer
Looking forward to the day when we can buy a 17 colour Dye/Pigment fine art/commercial A2+ printer!
I currently have an (old) Pro-100s, would you say it was worth upgrading to either of these or not bother until the 100 dies?
I personally wouldn't bother. Especially if you're considering third party inks. Tbh if I had to upgrade from my 10 I'd get a 1000. Availability around your neighborhood may influence the choice.
Hi there, I'd look at the Pro1000 for the upgrade. The Pro300 does still have those small cartridges. Tim
Absolutely not.I had pro 1000 myself and I have pro 100s and pro 200 (I work in two countries in Europe, Denmark and Poland and i have two offices). There is no difference between 100 and 200. Ink for 100s is cheaper. Pro 1000 and probably 300 makes sense if you print really, really often. 100s with the last firmware is very economical compared to the rest. A few months ago i bought 10 sets of ink for 100s for 1/3 or 1/2 of the price of ink for 200. If i could, i would buy 100s instead of 200s but it is unfortunately impossible. I use Canon paper and Canon inks myself. This combination guarantees a really long life for your prints. Today, I am looking at five year olld prints from both printers in a bright room and can not see any difference. I mainly photograph motorsport (I do not print these photos), portraits of pets and sometimes weddings. I make 95% of prints in color and on luster and premium matt paper prints from 100s look better than prints from 1000 Ps. I do not have a pro1000 anymore because it died after a year or two.
My wife is a newborn photographer and her highest demand for printed photos is at the end of the year where she got pictures from a school (around 400 printed pictures).
We use a regular Canon multifunctional printer to do the job (a TR8620) but we are not quite happy with it. The pic quality is fine but we are looking for something like: hey, put 100 sheets on the tray and let it do the job. Do you have any recommendation for that?
Yes, a laser copy machine
Thanks. It was useful.
Glad it was helpful!
About the ink cost... how do the ink costs compare between the two printers?
There is just over £2 difference between them.
What about FotoSpeed paper and profile services for us Australia viewers? You DO need to expand your overseas market after Brexit and we DO share the same monarchy! I can recommend some major agents for you!
Ink carts are waaaaay too small. You'd be buying ink every week if you print multiple prints.
The worst decision in buying a printer last december 2023 was to buy this printer pro-200, not just becasue its imposible to print in a 8x5.5" format, but because the half of the time this printer doesnt print because... i can't find inks for it.
First the bk, then the pm, then the y, this printer has been more time off than printing. And the worst part its that the cartridges are EXPENSIVE, VERY EXPENSIVE.
Finally i bought a Epson L8050 ecotank and for the price of one Canon of 12.6 ml i can buy a bottle of 70 ml!!
One Canon cartridge last no more than 7 days compared with the Epson that last ONE MONTH!!
I'm not questoning the quality, I prefer the Canon BUT when no inks available for months and the incredibly high price, THANK YOU BUT NO THANK YOU!
In this digital age... why would anyone care about lifespan of the prints? I'm sure 5-10 years from now there will be better printers to print it on.. etc.
Because the idea here is less to print for yourself and reproduce it every so often but to print for others, even sell the images. They cannot just print it again. Also you want to build up a collection for maybe your children or grandchildren. It's hard to predict how digital information will develop over the next 50 years, especially considering compatibility and storage. A print is a print and looks good, no matter what. There's nothing like "it looks like shit on a modern monitor". I for once would have loved to inherit an archive of high quality, durable photo prints from my grandfather and I envy anyone who did. It's so, so much more valuable than getting a USB stick.
Idiot.
For selling Geoff.
When I buy a printer for 500 dollars I expect that I don't have to do any profiling. The ink heads are the same, the inks are the same, the original papers by Canon are the same. I just don't think that you should have to make custom profiles. The only thing I can say when I hear this is: It's really a sign of bad quality.
He’s not printing on Canon papers though is he! He’s printing on Fotospeed papers - a third party paper. Do you expect Canon to build a profile for every third party paper available on the market and include it in the printer drivers?
@@marcusjackson9978 No, but I thought that the really good, popular papers (eg Hahnemühle) bring a profile.
I would always recommend having profiles made for your printer. The quality control is normally really good and on Canon paper you should see good results but there are many other factors that can effect prints and a custom profile can help with these. Generic profile will get you close though. Tim
@@FotospeedUK So could you maybe please mention one or two of these factors? I mean Canon surely uses a high quality profiler, so why would something like a Spyder give better or different results?
Talk about long winded
What about an ink waste pad? Any solution to replace it? Otherwise this beautiful printer is just a brick.