On the old Speed Network David Hobbes would say a "piano fell from the sky... poor old Kimi Raikkonen if he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all."
The fastest driver of the 21st century. And quite possibly, the most unlucky. This genius should be a 3x World Champion. 2 world titles, lost, due to McLaren's unreliability during the tyre war.
@@Mark-zk3gu No. The unreliability in Free Practice (grid penalties) and the races was far too much for any driver in F1 history to overcome. Raikkonen was far quicker than any driver in F1 at that time due to his fundamental superiority on the Michelin tyre. Alonso had driven on Michelins for 1 season less and actually noted this himself at the end of the year. Kimi was on another level with being "at one" with the car and tyres. In a way Alonso, in only his 3rd season with Renault as a driver could only dream of.
@@ciaronsmith4995 yeah, no. Raikkonen failed to extract the maximum result in Australia, Bahrain, Italy, China, Brazil. His suspension failure at the Nurburgring GP was also mostly on him.
@@Mark-zk3gu Wrong. Raikkonen had a 10-place grid penalty in Monza, otherwise he would have dominated that race, and wouldn't have needed to even remotely push. In Bahrain, he absolutely extracted the maximum, the McLaren before the suspension modification in Imola was far less competitive over 1 lap too. In China, Renault were faster (both Fisichella and Alonso were faster in qualifying). Renault brought massive upgrades to the engine in both Japan and China that season. Kimi still won one of those races, incredulously. Nobody at McLaren says their car was faster in Japan or China. In Australia there was a wet qualifying which hampered all the cars that came out later in the session. A write off, and Kimi stalled it on the grid due to the fact Mark Slade gave him wrong instructions on the grid. In Brazil he finished 2nd, but Montoya is a Brazil specialist so hardly any shame in that. It's likely Montoya would have had to move over if the title was still on the line. Not like Alonso would have done any better - Fernando barely beat a 2014 Kimi around Brazil in a car that didn't suit Kimi at all! In Nurburgring, Villeneuve caught him off guard, but Alonso made a far worse mistake in the race and simply got lucky. Raikkonen made a mistake, but Alonso made an even bigger one. Pure luck that Alonso didn't get a puncture frankly given he went rallying at the Dunlop curve for 10 seconds. He lost wins at Imola/Hockenheim/Monza all down to things out of his control, not to mention lost wins at Silverstone/France as well due to 10-place grid penalties. Throw in a cancelled race at Indy which he would have dominated, and it's clear to see Kimi in 2005 was one of the most dominant driver/car lineups in F1 history.
The fastest man in the world necessarily had to be the Ice Man. Because i would have been beyond annoyed after so many DNFs and would start punching people around. Yet Räikkönen always stayed cool as ice. Which actually makes his Suzuka 2005 win even more amazing and bittersweet to the point where it has never been duplicated ever again up to now. Its not the fact that he won from the far back alone, which is amazing in itself. Meaning, the win alone isnt it because Alonso also deserves massive respect for getting third despite starting from 16th but its nothing compared to Räikkönen. Its because he won from the far back (because of the penalty, 17th was last place even) combined with the fact that he kept the chances of McLaren alive to win the WCC (because Montoya said "I am going to sleep"), he kept his cool while going God-Mode and especially (the most important part) absolutely dominated after so many DNFs and penalties because of the unreliable car. Especially that race made clear how fast Räikkönen actually was when the car worked. I think all of that is what makes his Suzuka 2005 domination amazingly special to this day. No wonder Ron Dennis was trying to hold back his tears in an interview when Räikkönen won. I would cry as well. Manly tears boy.
Mercedes really did make miserable engines back in the day. Absolutely appalling. McLaren weren't innocent by any means, but there wasn't too much they could do.
The most brutal DNFs are 8:57 and 17:30 imo Nurgburgring 03 cost him the title and hockenheim 04 he couldve definitely won that race. He was so fucking fast
With 2003 and 2004 I feel like Raikkonen was always fighting an uphill battle so when he lost the title, there was still a sense of accomplishment because that McLaren was not a championship winning car However, 2005 hurts me so bad. The mp4/20 is one of my favourite cars and was an utter beast so when that title slipped away it was gutting
Your delusional if you think Raikkonen could genuinely beat Schumacher with that Ferrari. The only driver who could beat him with a much slower car was Alonso and would've achieved this feat at the Belgian Grand Prix had it not been for the oil leak.
@@Sutillteas you’re joking right? 🤔 Raikkonen lost the 03 title by 2 points in a car in which he took 1 win versus Schumacher’s 6 - I think you’re the delusional one here buddy Alonso didn’t stand a chance until he got the much quicker car in 2005 and 2006
Kimi was quicker than MSC was by the tyre war on the Michelins - Alonso was slower than Trulli in 2004, pathetically. Kimi had to switch to a new team and new tyre in 2007, which makes the comparison pointless. Had Michael switched to Michelin tyres in 2005 and joined McLaren, Kimi would have obliterated him. Alonso couldn't even beat Trulli or win a race in 2004, in a rocketship Renault. Renault thought Fisichella was going to beat Fernando, given how poor Alonso was on the Michelins in 2004. Regarding the Belgian GP, Kimi would have easily passed Alonso in Spa 2004 with or without Alonso stupidly spinning on his own oil twice! Alonso spared himself getting posterized by Kimi in that race! @@Sutillteas
Raikkonen is far superior to Leclerc despite Kimi being far unluckier as this video proves. Raikkonen won a title in 2007 despite having more DNFs than both McLaren drivers in a car that was opposite to Kimi's amazing driving style on tyres Kimi had not driven on at McLaren. Leclerc is just a worse driver than Kimi, obviously. So the bar is lower for Charles.@@Sutillteas
Crazy amount of failures. What's odd is that after Kimi left the mercedes engine and McLaren suddenly became bulletproof? In 2007 not a single engine failure from memory and 2008 think only Kovalinen had one at japan?
@@ciaronsmith4995 mad to think Kimi could've at least won 3 times in 2006. 2 of them being in Bahrain and Monaco when the McLaren was well off the pace. Wasn't until Germany really it closed the gap to the Ferraris and Renaults
No, this is too painful to watch. A potential 3-time world champion, who fought Schumacher in his prime and lost the championship only by 2 points in his 2nd with McLaren, 4th year of open wheel racing! So much raw talent.
He beat Massa in 2007 and 2009, Alonso got fired in 2014 and he was nearly 40 when he faced Seb by the end of 2018. Cheers. None of those drivers are quicker than peak McLaren Kimi on the Michelins. @@Alonso_The_GOAT
@@ciaronsmith4995 Alonso and Vettel are better drivers. Your fanboyism is pathetic. Just accept the fact that Slowkonnen is not as good as you would like and move on.
@@Alonso_The_GOAT So put the source/vid where we can see him cry ? I think he's one of the very few drivers who never cried. Not even after he won the title, not once he cried.
Dont forget Ferrari politicking to get those Santander billions and screwing Kimi from 2008 onwards. Winning a WDC when youre from a small market like Finland is just on another level.
Had Mercedes engines and the suspension/bodywork parts been half as reliable as they were during 2014-20…we’d be looking at a three time World champion with Michael and Fernando only having 6 and 1 respectively.
I swear I blocked most of this out of my memory. Leclerc fans , watch this video and you will understand the true meaning of pain. But Kimi says he has no regrets and that's more than enough for me.
u were the one who sparked my interest towards f1 and kimi raikkonen and now u just ban me from every discord server because im asking too many questions
I do agree he is the most unlicky F1 driver he should have won 4 championships and yes I am also saying he should of won the 2008 championship so yeah.
Fastest driver since Senna. Easily. McLaren were terrible when he was there, and Ferrari were nothing special most years either. Imagine Kimi in a 2010 Ferrari, with 4 consecutive years of experience.....
@@ciaronsmith4995 True, he caught McLaren in a bad period and only got one truly quick car with them, the 2005 one, but Ferrari was a completely different story mate, don't twist the facts. The car wasn't the problem during his stay at Maranello, Kimi just never clicked with Ferrari, I don't know why, but it just never happened for him with us for an entire season. He had good fragments of seasons like the second half of 2007, first half of 2008, post Massa accident in 2009, but you'd expect more from the highest paid driver of the grid. And his second spell was just average. He had good moments, but only 2016 and 2018 were seasons worthy of a top driver, in the other ones he often showed pace, but at other times he was woefully off Alonso and Vettel. And regarding Ferrari being nothing special when he was driving there, in 2007 and 2008 we had the best car on the grid, especially in 2008, even Massa, as error prone and inconsistent as he was, nearly became champion with it. And in his second spell Ferrari was quick enough to challenge for the title in 2017 and 2018, that's four title shots in eight seasons, more than 95% of F1 drivers get in their entire career.
Not at all. Kimi had more DNFs that both Alonso and Lewis in 2007, down to car failure, and didn't like the car at all. Kimi deserved 2003, 2005 and 2007. Watch 2007. Kimi was by far the unluckiest of the top 3. McLaren had an illegal car with perfect reliability. He's the fastest driver I've seen at his peak since Senna.
Yes extremely lucky. Hamilton was leagues better as a rookie already and Alonso drove better too with a team that was fully against him. Alonso schooled Slowkonnen with a weaker car in 2005 and 2006 and Massa put manners on him too in 2008 and early 2009 pre accident
Raikkonen is the fastest driver of his era, particular in the tyre war. Hamilton was nowhere as a rookie in comparison, just had a super reliable McLaren which he managed to crash in a pitlane and the huge advantage of prior knowledge of the Bridgestones. Don't make me laugh.@@Sutillteas
@@ciaronsmith4995 Bro, you're desperate. He had one more DNF than Ham/Alo. If Ham joined McLaren one year later or if Kovalainen joined instead of Alonso Raikkonen would stand no chance. And for what it's worth both peak Schumacher and peak Verstappen are faster than peak Raikkonen.
He had 2 DNFs down to Mechanical Failure. Alonso and Hamilton had DNFs down to DRIVING errors. Learn basic F1. Huge difference. Kimi also had a car completely unsuited to his driving style and won 2 more races than Ham/Alo. If Kovalainen had joined Ferrari, Kimi would have won that title by Fuji. He would have won it in a McLaren by China. Peak Kimi was the quickest driver since Senna. MSC retired for a reason in 2006. Cheers.@@MrLaptopus
Oh so what about 86? You meant that Hungary 87 while the wheel nut came off leading was not bad luck? Portugal 1991 pitstop? And so many more. Unluckiest driver so far. Kimi cames close, but not even the same @@ciaronsmith4995
That title is cringe. Alonso was wayy more unlucky than Raikkonen ever was. Even drivers like Webber, Fisichella, Trulli & Barrichello from that era were more unlucky than Raikkonen
He is already too lucky to drive a McLaren car in only his 2nd season. And he was chosen ahead of his teammate Nick Heidfeld who finished ahead of him. Yet Lewis Hamilton is still the luckiest F1 driver who started his career on a super car, and didn't have to wait to get a super car like MSC, Alonso, Button.
Get real, son. Kimi was the most inexperienced rookie in F1 history. Heidfeld was in his 2nd season in 2001 and already slower than rookie Kimi in the races in 2001. Nick lost to Montoya in F3000 too. It was an easy decision to pick the super rookie who had not seen any of the tracks before! Fastest man in the world!
@@ciaronsmith4995 1 season difference of experience is not significant. Heidfeld was a better driver in 2001 and overall at the same talent level as Raikkonen.
It's massive given Nick had multiple years of junior experience too (losing to Montoya in F3000). Kimi is the most inexperienced driver of all time. From Formula Renault (equivalent of Formula 4) to F1 in 23 races. That is unheard of to this day. And still faster than Heidfeld in the races at tracks Kimi never saw? That's called a generational driver. Heidfeld said a ROOKIE Kimi had the best race pace of any teammate he ever had. Imagine McLaren Kimi (bye Nick!). Alonso meanwhile was no faster than Trulli. Yikes.@@Alonso_The_GOAT
@@ciaronsmith4995 We saw how much of the speed of "McLaren Kimi" was the car and how much was the driver when he was barely quicker than Massa in 2007 and got destroyed in 2008, as he would have been in 2009 before Felipe got injured. Everyone can be fast in a Newey rocketship, even Perez nowadays looks like a top driver. True generational drivers are the ones who shine in slow cars and put them in places they shouldn't be by driving them consistently to the absolute limit. Alonso in 2010 and 2012 and Schumacher in 1995, 1997 and 1998 are perfect examples of that. Alonso won with a far slower car against your idol in 2005 and made him look like an F2 driver in the same car in 2014. At 42 years old, he is fighting Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc and the rest of the younger drivers, while your god was barely keeping up with Giovinazzi. Kimi is overrated and at the tier of Button, Rosberg and Massa. Alonso and Schumacher are a different tier. Sadly, facts don't care about your feelings. Raikkonen lost to every single decent teammate he had. The only teammates he didn't lose to once were Giovinazzi and Grosjean 😂 this shows what his real level was.
0 context. 0 intelligence. 0 credibility. Each of your comments proves you know nothing about F1. Kimi had to adapt to new tyres and a new team, Massa had half a decade of experience on. He still beat Massa and won the title, which is simpy unheard of in those conditions. Then Ferrari played politics in 2008 as everyone knows.@@Alonso_The_GOAT
@@ciaronsmith4995 I'll watch the video to find out about the first part although the second part of your statement is ridiculously inaccurate. 2015 the best driver was vettel , followed by alonso hamilton and verstappen. 2016 and 17 the best alonso , so his form went nowhere jus the mclaren car was utter shit
On the old Speed Network David Hobbes would say a "piano fell from the sky... poor old Kimi Raikkonen if he didn't have bad luck he'd have no luck at all."
“A few people laughed, a few people cried, car’s reliability was silent in most races.”
-Mclarenheimer 2002-2006
aside from the reliability problems, the early 2000's were such an amazing era in F1
The fastest driver of the 21st century.
And quite possibly, the most unlucky.
This genius should be a 3x World Champion. 2 world titles, lost, due to McLaren's unreliability during the tyre war.
161 vs 55
Even with unreliability, 2005 should've been a walk in the park for Raikkonen. The car was so much faster than Renault.
@@Mark-zk3gu No. The unreliability in Free Practice (grid penalties) and the races was far too much for any driver in F1 history to overcome. Raikkonen was far quicker than any driver in F1 at that time due to his fundamental superiority on the Michelin tyre. Alonso had driven on Michelins for 1 season less and actually noted this himself at the end of the year. Kimi was on another level with being "at one" with the car and tyres. In a way Alonso, in only his 3rd season with Renault as a driver could only dream of.
@@ciaronsmith4995 yeah, no. Raikkonen failed to extract the maximum result in Australia, Bahrain, Italy, China, Brazil. His suspension failure at the Nurburgring GP was also mostly on him.
@@Mark-zk3gu Wrong.
Raikkonen had a 10-place grid penalty in Monza, otherwise he would have dominated that race, and wouldn't have needed to even remotely push.
In Bahrain, he absolutely extracted the maximum, the McLaren before the suspension modification in Imola was far less competitive over 1 lap too.
In China, Renault were faster (both Fisichella and Alonso were faster in qualifying). Renault brought massive upgrades to the engine in both Japan and China that season. Kimi still won one of those races, incredulously. Nobody at McLaren says their car was faster in Japan or China.
In Australia there was a wet qualifying which hampered all the cars that came out later in the session. A write off, and Kimi stalled it on the grid due to the fact Mark Slade gave him wrong instructions on the grid.
In Brazil he finished 2nd, but Montoya is a Brazil specialist so hardly any shame in that. It's likely Montoya would have had to move over if the title was still on the line. Not like Alonso would have done any better - Fernando barely beat a 2014 Kimi around Brazil in a car that didn't suit Kimi at all!
In Nurburgring, Villeneuve caught him off guard, but Alonso made a far worse mistake in the race and simply got lucky. Raikkonen made a mistake, but Alonso made an even bigger one. Pure luck that Alonso didn't get a puncture frankly given he went rallying at the Dunlop curve for 10 seconds.
He lost wins at Imola/Hockenheim/Monza all down to things out of his control, not to mention lost wins at Silverstone/France as well due to 10-place grid penalties. Throw in a cancelled race at Indy which he would have dominated, and it's clear to see Kimi in 2005 was one of the most dominant driver/car lineups in F1 history.
The fastest man in the world necessarily had to be the Ice Man. Because i would have been beyond annoyed after so many DNFs and would start punching people around. Yet Räikkönen always stayed cool as ice.
Which actually makes his Suzuka 2005 win even more amazing and bittersweet to the point where it has never been duplicated ever again up to now. Its not the fact that he won from the far back alone, which is amazing in itself. Meaning, the win alone isnt it because Alonso also deserves massive respect for getting third despite starting from 16th but its nothing compared to Räikkönen.
Its because he won from the far back (because of the penalty, 17th was last place even) combined with the fact that he kept the chances of McLaren alive to win the WCC (because Montoya said "I am going to sleep"), he kept his cool while going God-Mode and especially (the most important part) absolutely dominated after so many DNFs and penalties because of the unreliable car.
Especially that race made clear how fast Räikkönen actually was when the car worked.
I think all of that is what makes his Suzuka 2005 domination amazingly special to this day. No wonder Ron Dennis was trying to hold back his tears in an interview when Räikkönen won. I would cry as well. Manly tears boy.
Not McLaren but there's also another his Japan race, 2007
It feels weird giving this video a thumbs up
this video is torture it should be flagged
As much as hate the Monaco Grand Prix, I love the old pit lane, complete with the trees and narrow area 👌🏻
Mercedes really did make miserable engines back in the day. Absolutely appalling. McLaren weren't innocent by any means, but there wasn't too much they could do.
Same for BMW though, the German engines were monstrously powerful but made of glass
The most brutal DNFs are 8:57 and 17:30 imo
Nurgburgring 03 cost him the title and hockenheim 04 he couldve definitely won that race. He was so fucking fast
With 2003 and 2004 I feel like Raikkonen was always fighting an uphill battle so when he lost the title, there was still a sense of accomplishment because that McLaren was not a championship winning car
However, 2005 hurts me so bad. The mp4/20 is one of my favourite cars and was an utter beast so when that title slipped away it was gutting
Your delusional if you think Raikkonen could genuinely beat Schumacher with that Ferrari. The only driver who could beat him with a much slower car was Alonso and would've achieved this feat at the Belgian Grand Prix had it not been for the oil leak.
@@Sutillteas you’re joking right? 🤔 Raikkonen lost the 03 title by 2 points in a car in which he took 1 win versus Schumacher’s 6 - I think you’re the delusional one here buddy
Alonso didn’t stand a chance until he got the much quicker car in 2005 and 2006
@@SutillteasDid you watched Kimi 2003 ?
Kimi was quicker than MSC was by the tyre war on the Michelins - Alonso was slower than Trulli in 2004, pathetically. Kimi had to switch to a new team and new tyre in 2007, which makes the comparison pointless. Had Michael switched to Michelin tyres in 2005 and joined McLaren, Kimi would have obliterated him. Alonso couldn't even beat Trulli or win a race in 2004, in a rocketship Renault. Renault thought Fisichella was going to beat Fernando, given how poor Alonso was on the Michelins in 2004. Regarding the Belgian GP, Kimi would have easily passed Alonso in Spa 2004 with or without Alonso stupidly spinning on his own oil twice! Alonso spared himself getting posterized by Kimi in that race! @@Sutillteas
And Charles Leclerc thinks he's so unlucky…
I mean it's not like he isn't unlucky
Not like this though, frankly. Nowhere close.@@clubpenguin13531
Still more unlucky than Raikkonen. He fluked a championship in 2007. Leclerc was sabotaged by Ferrari in 2022 for instance
Raikkonen is far superior to Leclerc despite Kimi being far unluckier as this video proves. Raikkonen won a title in 2007 despite having more DNFs than both McLaren drivers in a car that was opposite to Kimi's amazing driving style on tyres Kimi had not driven on at McLaren. Leclerc is just a worse driver than Kimi, obviously. So the bar is lower for Charles.@@Sutillteas
@@ciaronsmith4995Raikkonen’s only title is a result of luck. He got destroyed by Vettel, who Leclerc comfortably beat the next year.
Crazy amount of failures. What's odd is that after Kimi left the mercedes engine and McLaren suddenly became bulletproof? In 2007 not a single engine failure from memory and 2008 think only Kovalinen had one at japan?
Because they changed their review processes at the end of 2006 according to Paddy Lowe. They were one of the most archaic on the grid. Kimi's luck!
Your memory is correct McLaren reliability became a lot better from 2007-09
Late reply but even when Hekki retired, he was still classified 10th! Says it all
The 2002 season was kind of joke. He was rather more travelling than drive on the tracks
2002 and 2004 were shocking in terms of reliability
So was 2005 frankly. The 10 place grid penalties were brutal.
Back in those days when Mercedes engines were made of cotton wool
True but so many other failures too. Wheel nuts, driveshaft, rear wings etc.
Nürburgring 2005 is something unreal.
Whenever people say Leclerc is unlucky, I laugh because that's nothing compared to Kimi (and thinking about Kimi's bad luck makes me sad)
No idea why he was sent back out at the Turkish GP in 2006. Was clearly not safe as the rear of the car was visibly terminally damaged.
I am 100% with you.
@@ciaronsmith4995 mad to think Kimi could've at least won 3 times in 2006. 2 of them being in Bahrain and Monaco when the McLaren was well off the pace. Wasn't until Germany really it closed the gap to the Ferraris and Renaults
@@CammyTheSportsEntertainerBahrain had he not had the failure in qualifying you’re right I’m sure he would have won
Unluckiest driver ever is Chris Amon
Unluckier drivers:
Jules Bianchi
Aryton Senna
Basically any driver who died..
no@@george._mav
This video hurts
One of the most talented drivers ever.
this video hurts my soul and makes me wanna cry
Even unluckier than Leclerc.
I missed Imola 2004 quali failure! Unbelievable!
36 minute long video of DNFs is next level crazy. Can't believe this guy's luck
At one team too.
I missed Imola 2004 qualifying too.....
He deserved more titles.
No, this is too painful to watch. A potential 3-time world champion, who fought Schumacher in his prime and lost the championship only by 2 points in his 2nd with McLaren, 4th year of open wheel racing! So much raw talent.
Kimi is probably the unluckiest driver I’ve seen since I started in 2001. It’s not even close actually.
I'm a finn. I watched these things happen on live tv back in the day. you got use to it, but man does it still hurt even today
Kimi Raikkonen was gifted the 2007 championship
Get out, leave right now; it's the end of you and me lol! Just kidding but he was not gifted it mate.
The REAL 2005 WDC, ladies and gentlemen. What Masi did to Hamilton, Ron Dennis’ McLaren did to Kimi.
what a way to crush an already broken heart ciaron😭
Never heard Kimi cry like Leclerc.
He sure cried when he got absolutely demolished by Massa, Alonso and Vettel consecutively in Ferrari.
He beat Massa in 2007 and 2009, Alonso got fired in 2014 and he was nearly 40 when he faced Seb by the end of 2018. Cheers. None of those drivers are quicker than peak McLaren Kimi on the Michelins.
@@Alonso_The_GOAT
@@ciaronsmith4995 Alonso and Vettel are better drivers. Your fanboyism is pathetic. Just accept the fact that Slowkonnen is not as good as you would like and move on.
@@Alonso_The_GOAT So put the source/vid where we can see him cry ?
I think he's one of the very few drivers who never cried. Not even after he won the title, not once he cried.
He did not cry. That guy is a troll. He is anti Kimi because he realized Kimi was faster than his idol Alonso.@@petel7418
i knew there was a lot but this is just appaling lol🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
I think Kimi spent more time on the back of that moped than he did on the track.
Dont forget Ferrari politicking to get those Santander billions and screwing Kimi from 2008 onwards. Winning a WDC when youre from a small market like Finland is just on another level.
The Iceman.
The most famous Finn ever.
Ciaron, maybe you could make a vid about his race pace and explained about it in details
Had Mercedes engines and the suspension/bodywork parts been half as reliable as they were during 2014-20…we’d be looking at a three time World champion with Michael and Fernando only having 6 and 1 respectively.
I swear I blocked most of this out of my memory. Leclerc fans , watch this video and you will understand the true meaning of pain.
But Kimi says he has no regrets and that's more than enough for me.
Hey mate, can we have the 2006 monaco video again ? it was so well made :(
You could argue Alonso had just as much bad luck as Kimi to missing out on 3 titles with a total of 8 points
No. You could not. Bad luck is not the same as driver error. Cheers.
Remind me what happened in 2014?
Cant watch this. Hope you understand.
u were the one who sparked my interest towards f1 and kimi raikkonen and now u just ban me from every discord server because im asking too many questions
I do agree he is the most unlicky F1 driver he should have won 4 championships and yes I am also saying he should of won the 2008 championship so yeah.
I'm doing a painting of the @15:58 moment
Lewis Hamilton was robbed of the 2007 championship
6 years at McLaren, 8 at Ferrari.. unlucky sure😅
Most overrated driver of the 21st century so far for sure.
Fastest driver since Senna. Easily.
McLaren were terrible when he was there, and Ferrari were nothing special most years either.
Imagine Kimi in a 2010 Ferrari, with 4 consecutive years of experience.....
@@ciaronsmith4995
True, he caught McLaren in a bad period and only got one truly quick car with them, the 2005 one, but Ferrari was a completely different story mate, don't twist the facts.
The car wasn't the problem during his stay at Maranello, Kimi just never clicked with Ferrari, I don't know why, but it just never happened for him with us for an entire season.
He had good fragments of seasons like the second half of 2007, first half of 2008, post Massa accident in 2009, but you'd expect more from the highest paid driver of the grid.
And his second spell was just average. He had good moments, but only 2016 and 2018 were seasons worthy of a top driver, in the other ones he often showed pace, but at other times he was woefully off Alonso and Vettel.
And regarding Ferrari being nothing special when he was driving there, in 2007 and 2008 we had the best car on the grid, especially in 2008, even Massa, as error prone and inconsistent as he was, nearly became champion with it.
And in his second spell Ferrari was quick enough to challenge for the title in 2017 and 2018, that's four title shots in eight seasons, more than 95% of F1 drivers get in their entire career.
@LaF1dimenticata prossimo video su piloti sfigat
He is lucky to have won that one championship in 2007. It only happened due to Hamilton and Alonso taking points off each other
Not at all. Kimi had more DNFs that both Alonso and Lewis in 2007, down to car failure, and didn't like the car at all.
Kimi deserved 2003, 2005 and 2007. Watch 2007. Kimi was by far the unluckiest of the top 3. McLaren had an illegal car with perfect reliability. He's the fastest driver I've seen at his peak since Senna.
Yes extremely lucky. Hamilton was leagues better as a rookie already and Alonso drove better too with a team that was fully against him.
Alonso schooled Slowkonnen with a weaker car in 2005 and 2006 and Massa put manners on him too in 2008 and early 2009 pre accident
Raikkonen is the fastest driver of his era, particular in the tyre war. Hamilton was nowhere as a rookie in comparison, just had a super reliable McLaren which he managed to crash in a pitlane and the huge advantage of prior knowledge of the Bridgestones. Don't make me laugh.@@Sutillteas
@@ciaronsmith4995 Bro, you're desperate. He had one more DNF than Ham/Alo. If Ham joined McLaren one year later or if Kovalainen joined instead of Alonso Raikkonen would stand no chance.
And for what it's worth both peak Schumacher and peak Verstappen are faster than peak Raikkonen.
He had 2 DNFs down to Mechanical Failure. Alonso and Hamilton had DNFs down to DRIVING errors. Learn basic F1.
Huge difference. Kimi also had a car completely unsuited to his driving style and won 2 more races than Ham/Alo.
If Kovalainen had joined Ferrari, Kimi would have won that title by Fuji. He would have won it in a McLaren by China.
Peak Kimi was the quickest driver since Senna. MSC retired for a reason in 2006. Cheers.@@MrLaptopus
IT is NOT. NIGEL MANSELL is.
Now, go watch some F1 please. Thanks.
I am a Mansell fan, but Nigel binned it in '87 by himself. Enough.
Oh so what about 86? You meant that Hungary 87 while the wheel nut came off leading was not bad luck? Portugal 1991 pitstop? And so many more. Unluckiest driver so far. Kimi cames close, but not even the same
@@ciaronsmith4995
More like most mid driver ever.
Thanks for telling us you never actually watched him drive on the Michelin tyre.
Cheers. Kid.
@@ciaronsmith4995 rat you don't get to talk
21 wins, 103 podiums, the only Ferrari world champion of the past 19 years... get back to the mental asylum you escaped from
That title is cringe.
Alonso was wayy more unlucky than Raikkonen ever was. Even drivers like Webber, Fisichella, Trulli & Barrichello from that era were more unlucky than Raikkonen
Not even close. Kimi is far unluckier than Alonso. Kimi was also far quicker in this era.
Kimi was more unlucky, specially during his first f1 stint. Alonso's bad luck only came recently
Calling Nigel Mansell to the chat. Alonso? LOL LMFAO
@@danigonzalez4299 Mansell?? Are you skunked? Don't be stupid kid
He is already too lucky to drive a McLaren car in only his 2nd season. And he was chosen ahead of his teammate Nick Heidfeld who finished ahead of him. Yet Lewis Hamilton is still the luckiest F1 driver who started his career on a super car, and didn't have to wait to get a super car like MSC, Alonso, Button.
Get real, son. Kimi was the most inexperienced rookie in F1 history. Heidfeld was in his 2nd season in 2001 and already slower than rookie Kimi in the races in 2001. Nick lost to Montoya in F3000 too. It was an easy decision to pick the super rookie who had not seen any of the tracks before! Fastest man in the world!
@@ciaronsmith4995 1 season difference of experience is not significant. Heidfeld was a better driver in 2001 and overall at the same talent level as Raikkonen.
It's massive given Nick had multiple years of junior experience too (losing to Montoya in F3000). Kimi is the most inexperienced driver of all time. From Formula Renault (equivalent of Formula 4) to F1 in 23 races. That is unheard of to this day. And still faster than Heidfeld in the races at tracks Kimi never saw? That's called a generational driver. Heidfeld said a ROOKIE Kimi had the best race pace of any teammate he ever had. Imagine McLaren Kimi (bye Nick!). Alonso meanwhile was no faster than Trulli. Yikes.@@Alonso_The_GOAT
@@ciaronsmith4995 We saw how much of the speed of "McLaren Kimi" was the car and how much was the driver when he was barely quicker than Massa in 2007 and got destroyed in 2008, as he would have been in 2009 before Felipe got injured.
Everyone can be fast in a Newey rocketship, even Perez nowadays looks like a top driver. True generational drivers are the ones who shine in slow cars and put them in places they shouldn't be by driving them consistently to the absolute limit. Alonso in 2010 and 2012 and Schumacher in 1995, 1997 and 1998 are perfect examples of that.
Alonso won with a far slower car against your idol in 2005 and made him look like an F2 driver in the same car in 2014. At 42 years old, he is fighting Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc and the rest of the younger drivers, while your god was barely keeping up with Giovinazzi. Kimi is overrated and at the tier of Button, Rosberg and Massa. Alonso and Schumacher are a different tier. Sadly, facts don't care about your feelings. Raikkonen lost to every single decent teammate he had. The only teammates he didn't lose to once were Giovinazzi and Grosjean 😂 this shows what his real level was.
0 context. 0 intelligence. 0 credibility. Each of your comments proves you know nothing about F1. Kimi had to adapt to new tyres and a new team, Massa had half a decade of experience on. He still beat Massa and won the title, which is simpy unheard of in those conditions. Then Ferrari played politics in 2008 as everyone knows.@@Alonso_The_GOAT
must be joking?? Its alonso at mclaren
Kimi had even more bad luck, and it cost him way more. Kimi was also way faster in this period than Alonso was in 2015.
@@ciaronsmith4995 I'll watch the video to find out about the first part although the second part of your statement is ridiculously inaccurate. 2015 the best driver was vettel , followed by alonso hamilton and verstappen. 2016 and 17 the best alonso , so his form went nowhere jus the mclaren car was utter shit
I was saying Kimi in this period (McLaren) was faster than Alonso at McLaren. Not 2015 Kimi. Hope that's clear.@@sunritroykarmakar4406
It is NOT at all.
When he first joined McLaren, I consider him a genius driver, but very unlike