HEY, SPEAKING OF BURRITOS MY FRIEND, YOUR A GENIUS ! THEY CAN DELIVER FOOD AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES ALL ACROSS NEEDED REGIONS RAPIDLY NOW, CALL IT RAPID-GRUB-ON AND DRINKS RAPID-FLAGON. - I THINK YOU NEED TO CALL THE SOC AND REFER ME INTO THEIR THINK TANKS. ✅😎👍
Try and get me, try and get me, try and get me to agree to the Army, Navy and Air Force. Try and get me, try and get me, try and get me to agree to the Army, Navy and Air Force. The Navy and Air Force are not going to agree to work together to sink a whole fleet of ships with one C-130 aircraft and JASSM ER cruise missiles. Just look at the Navy's RIMPAC exercise to see that only Navy carrier based aircraft and Navy ships are permitted to sink other ships.
People don’t realize the real power behind the US military is the pallet. Absolutely everything they use can be palletized stacked and shipped then unpacked in extremely efficient and effective manner. The logistics behind of their operations is literally mind boggling. No one can even compare to that capability.
The real power of the US military is delusion to hear you tell it. The US logistics are not one iota better than the next country's. Any kind of system deployed from a cargo plane is obviously not remotely survivable against modern air defense.
Considering that dragons are included in nearly every mythology from around the world, I don't feel like the name was directed at them specifically. Cool post-hoc reasoning though. Edit: I stand corrected, just got to the part in the video where it explains the name.
This is actually an ingenious strategy by the USAF. Declassified documents show that China accepts they can't shoot down advanced stealth aircraft like the B-2 Bomber or the F-35. So the Chinese strategy has turned from shooting down those advanced jets to shooting down the vulnerable refueling aircraft.
@@MoGumbo_ It isn't even really a matter of declassified documents saying it. It is one thing to be able to detect a stealth aircraft, it is entirely another thing to be able to shoot one down, as a lot of things have to go right in order to complete the kill chain on them. It is much much much easier to get a kill chain on a tanker.
@@MoGumbo_ Not sure about the "can't shoot down advanced stealth aircraft" part, but you can get a good sense of China's strategy simply by looking at the design of the J-20. Compared with the F-22 and F-35, the J-20 is a much larger aircraft with longer operational range and a big weapons bay with space to accommodate space for larger, longer ranged but less agile missiles. In terms of stealth, the J-20 is stealthy from the front, but much less stealthy at other angles due to its canards. Put this info together and you can see its role - to target vulnerable aircraft like AWACS and refuellers from long range, not go up against advanced stealth aircraft like the F-35.
At most companies - there is an unwritten - but absolute and unavoidable rule: When you are good at something and show you are responsible, hard-working and a high achiever, the reward for your great work and effort is often - more work...
Yeah but if they send a few of these Rapid Dragon C-130's out fully loaded, I would assume they wouldn't need so many supplies to support the rest of the war.
Just for point of reference 288 Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched during Operation Desert Storm in 1991. 10 dedicated C-17s can launch 450 AGM-158s. They could theoretically use something like 50 cargo planes to launch well over a thousand of these within minutes completely overwhelming and destroying any and all air defenses a hostile nation may have. In a near peer fight this system is practically an "I win" button.
@@bogdanovist He mentions in the video that the US alone has 7,500 JASM cruise missiles on hand and just placed an order for another 525. That's not including the missiles currently stockpiled by our allies, like Poland, Japan, Finland and others.
The other reason why they canceled the 747 idea was that it was felt that weaponizing civilian type aircraft might have a negative effect on commercial air travel. Korean Airlines 747 was shot down in 1983 by the soviets and it kind of spooked everyone.
Oh it's about to get a whole lot more chaotic- when China rolls out their stated plans for sea-launched missiles disguised as Cargo boxes on commercial shipping vessels
You can bet someone is still mulling over that idea as a contingency in case NATO looses a significant portion of the cargo and bomber fleets. Commandeering some civilian planes in a clutch moment of a conflict-gone-bad to weaponize them is for sure on the menu.
10:55 I was getting ready to make this point. As there are many allies who could utilize their cargo fleet to deliver this ordinance. I'm glad you made it.
it's a ride you really feel haha. I've had the pleasure of riding in a blackhawk, chinook, C-130, and C-17 . I forget if we took a C-5 or a C-17 from the United States into Kuwait though. All I can say is the C-130 was the most expierence of the airplanes. loud as fuck, bumpy. freezing if I remember right it was like 10 years ago. I felt like I WAS cargo. puts a smile on your face though.
@@johnronellequinones4819 Technically it's a form of camouflage. And it's not using a protected symbol like the Red Cross or Red Crescent to transport military hardware or as offensive weapons platforms.
I love at the end he shows a logistics truck that was used as the base for a HIMARS while saying "Maybe someday they will figure out how to turn a logi truck into a missile system"
Rheinmetal just built a cargo container baser Kamikaze Drone system, in a VLS style launcher, that can fling 126 explosive drones in a drone swarm of 10 pound warheads. 😅😅😅
Rapid Dragon is unironically the US’ most promising development to ensure the protection of Taiwan. We aren’t building enough submarines, destroyers, bombers, or fighters to pick up the slack.
@@Alejandra-cv7rj nah no way. Some of these ships needs hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades and its harder in many cases to do these than it is to make a new ship. We also dont have a lot of those 1990s ships right now you can go look at the backup fleets they are quite reduced in size.
I’ve been re-reading my Honor Harrington books. It’s a military sci-fi of future warfare which is dominated by missiles. But it’s not enough to make the most advanced missile, it’s about fielding so many, that your adversary’s defense is overwhelmed. This feels exactly like the book. Make more missiles.
@@Dori-Ma Ahh, it’s so very rare when I talk about Honor Harrington that anyone knows what I’m talking about. All the geeks seem to care about are Star Wars
@@apok1980 Yeah, it's like the literary equivalent of "Farscape" or "Babylon 5" over on TV when it comes to peoples knowledge about it. Of the small number of people who have heard about it, very few have actually read any of the books. Well, when it comes to the general public anyways. That's why I watch geek channels like @Spacedock there's a pretty nice range of Sci Fi knowledge between the channel and the community.
My God this channel is something! With all the horrible things going on, your humor and deep insight makes it so much easier to digest. You are a top-tier presenter, as good as anyone on any news network.
Those cruise missles have the ability to fly low and hug the terrain, and that complicates anti-missle battery tracking. Also the s300 and s400 missles are not designed for low altitude counter missle applications, add the stealth signature the size of a walnut exponentially increase the ability for rapid dragon to have a 95% hit probability.
Gepard shot down russian cruise missiles in ukraine no problem. If the chinese or russians can copy the 40 year old Gepard tech (reliable, quick and easy to use) then cruise missiles are ineffective. Basically every system that is in development or procurement right now to counter the drone menace will likely be able to shot down cruise missiles flying low overhead. Everyone will plaster infrastructure and military assets with anti drone defenses in the future, no doubt.
While I don't disagree with the assertion that this will absolutely destroy a SAM site, both the S300 and S400 have the capability to intercept low flying cruise missiles. The S300 even has a dedicated low altitude search radar (NATO Name: Clam Shell) designed to address those very threats. Will it struggle with these modern systems? Yes.
China: We will deny you access to Taiwan and the surrounding area when we war with Taiwan. America: You should have learned from Russia. [a few moments later] America: Allow me to introduce you to the Rapid Dragon system and our hypersonic revolver.
@@syjiang And I guess they're testing it for ship-borne deployment, too? I'm picturing one of those massive cargo-carriers with every inch of deck covered in cargo containers spitting-out missiles. Is it possible to sink one of those ships via downward thrust on the deck alone? Let's find out!
Youre weird. That dude is a tard that couldnt make it past e7 in the infantry, the easiest branch to promote in. He doesn't know shit outside of basic infantry stuff. People treat him like he's some savant
@@michaelccozensinstead of imagining go watch WW2 pacific theater footage. They had ships with decks absolutely covered in rockets. Yes they were smaller and unguided but seeing hundreds of rocket engines light up on a ship is still super awesome.
I forgot to mention that all the heavy freight haulers from UPS and FedEx can be drafted to haul stuff for the military. We don't really have an airlift shortage. Still it would be better to just build more C-130's and C-17's. As for Rapid Dragon, I think the name is wrong, It should be Rapid Burrito! Mexico needs love too!
And that was the old E model… Js are more than 25% more powerful and holds records for climb rates, takeoff distance and landing distance under MULTIPLE aircraft takeoff weights. The current stuff looks like the old stuff but it’s what’s on the inside that counts :)
@@TaskandpurposeSend him a msg. I'm sure you found him at the same place I did. I've tried to post it but my comment has been deleted 4 times now. So that's why this one isn't exactly concise & clear lol
You weren't kidding about the ASVAB scores. When I was signing up with the Air Force recruiter in Hannibal, Missouri, there was another guy talking to another Air Force recruiter in the same office. I couldn't hear their conversation, but the young recruit started to cry. The recruiter puts his arm around him and walked him out the office and down the hall. After an hour passed, I see the recruit again and he's high fiving everyone and has a huge grin on his face. When I left the Air Force office I looked down the same hallway the young recruit came from. The office said US Army. His ASVAB scores weren't high enough to get into the Air Force but the Army took him.
ASVAB score determines which MOS (job) you qualify for. I'm sure the Airforce has some MOSs that don't require a high ASVAB score, for example: truck driver, cook, security guard, bulldozer operator, medical orderly, etc. They're not all computer programmers over there.
@@williamblaker2628 That's how it works, but it also has to do with quotas. If manning for all those jobs is "adequate" then there's no reason to sign up people for them. Just use the ones who fail out of tech school instead.
@@Plaprad can't you just study for and retake the ASVAB? If you really want a particular job that takes a high score, it's probably worth studying a few months and retaking it instead of just giving up, right?
@@r7calvin Not sure about now, but twenty years ago, yes. I had a buddy who missed his job by like two points. So he retook the ASVAB again a month later IIRC. He got the job he wanted. But, they also change the requirements. So, if your wanted job requires say, a score of 69 and you made 67, then you could retake it. But, when you retake and make a 70, the job could have been changed to require 75. Not a big thing, but it happened to my recruiter, so it got pounded into my head when I was doing the enlistment stuff.
We do have a 747 with a giant chemical laser too! My family member was a senior engineer on the ABL(AIR BOURNE LASER) that is still in our inventory and very capable!
Yeah ... it also made no sense. The US really is into going full ACME these days. ... very capable ... hell these ppl should read ther own assessment papers intead of fangirling every tax billion they wasted without have a tactical/physical check in the first place ... I mean with that laser thingy - is atmospheric gasses a new thing they only explored once they finished that plane?
That’s old. I did it in the ‘60’s (C-141’s). Load 1 caries the extraction ‘chute for load 2, 2 carries 3, etc. 1 comes out of a bomb release above the ramp. Old, but it works. The extraction part of this is long perfected. The new part is what’s getting yanked out of the plane. Missles instead of trucks and tanks.
I love Rapid Dragon because it means that a casual Cargo Aircraft can carry enough Cruise Missiles to make any Adversary VERY nervous about any Cargo Aircraft anywhere near them. And by "Anywhere near them" I mean within 1,000 miles
A college buddy of mine worked on one of those inertial guidance systems. The goal was accuracy of three feet at one thousand miles. They achieved an accuracy of three _inches_ at _ten_ thousand miles. In his words, "They wanted us to be able to hit a car from a thousand miles away, and we gave them the ability to hit a guy in the nuts from halfway around the world." Of course, real-world accuracy isn't that good...yet. At least, not according to public records.
As someone who’s been reading Honor Harrington novels for decades, it’s nice to see the military catching up to the concept of “Roll Pods!” and having the enemy shit itself.
This is right up there with the ground attack crop duster. It seems wonderful until you realize that air defense still exists. If people were already planning to shoot down your real cruise missile carriers, and they are, this is not going to pose a challenge.
Good work Paul thank you. Though I’ve known about this for sometime your video managed to give me some new information which is hard to come by. thank you for your service and for the entertainment.
7.20 The C-130 "A rough slow ride". First time I travelled Wallaby Airlines [RAAF] in a C-130 I thought the interior looked like the compressor area of a refrigerator. Damn good in flight food though compared to what the Army used to feed us.
I find it odd that hasn’t happened yet: in 2019 at a cybersecurity conference, we discussed the war game scenario of a terrorist driving a truck filled with IED-toting quadcopters to a soft target for asymmetric warfare
Why not a cruise missile that when it nears the target, launches 50 2kg drones that auto target anything in the vicinity while the missile goes on to hit its main target?
@@shaeleableI would imagine there would be a lot of "shear forces" involved making this an engineering nightmare if not down right impossible. I'm not saying that we shouldn't investigate this possibility. I just think that we should tackle it from the angle of overcoming the "moment of deployment" issue as the hardest problem to solve.
@@pierowmania2775 Oh absolutely there would be some issues with launching drones from a cruise missile body at 600mph, but it would be awesome to see.. from a distance 🤣
Take a look at the QuickSink system, which is just a recoding of the targeting program on a JDAM, and consider what that software tweak could do if applied to the Rapid Dragon system and deployed in the South China Sea. Suddenly the Philippines and Taiwan enjoy wonderfully improved security.
Build more C130s. We could use the capacity. Plus they can handle landing in "rough" areas, allowing Rapid Dragon packages to be disbursed to more locations than a near peer can saturate with their own cruise missiles.
I didn't know it was named after an ancient siege weapon from China, of all places...But on a more important note; Con Air is one of the few Nic Cage movies that are not only watchable, but actually good. The Rock and Gone in 60 seconds are even better in my opinion.
You should do a video on the Marine Corps Harvest Hawk program. This is a program that's already been tested and employed. Very similar but for the KC-130J and hellfire and gryphon missiles.
@@nikolaideianov5092 They got Falcon 9 for that. Besides more sats, they want orbital dropship space marines. It's more for logistics and not ODST like in Halo at least for now.
Imagine the entire concept started because a bunch of Engineers, a couple of pilots and loadmasters started talking at a bar over drinks and somebody came up with the crazy idea with this as the end result
Funny thing is that I actually have been thinking about a system like that for years. A bomber is only useful during war but a cargo plane is useful all the time, so by giving cargo planes that capability not only would you increase your vectors of ordnance delivery available, you would do it for way cheaper. Take a plane like the Embraer C-390 Millennium, pair it up with something like an E-8 or E-3 Sentry for long range target guidance and you could dominate huge areas.
You thought of it ... and people a log time thought of it before. And a long time therefor other people thought of it. It still makes no economical/strategical/tactical sense. But i guess that's the part people tend to skip in ther fascination of "I did brain" -.-
A C-17 can hold 5 pallets of 9 JASSM 158Ds. C-5 can hold double the standard pallets of a C-17. 90 AGM-158Ds. That would be the equivalent payload of 4 B-52s. Substitute some payloads with the planned jammers and a few C-5s could counter A2/AD.
Great video as always, I have finally caught up and watched every video on your main channel…go me 🙃 Now feel I’m a true member of the spare parts army 😁
@@Taskandpurpose haha they not terrible dude, you have certainly honed your craft though. Most the time people that do silly jokes on there videos are generally unfunny. But will admit I either crack a smile, or have a little chuckle with yours. Keep up the good work, to you and your crew 👍😎
I actually thought up an idea when I was 12 or something to uses freight trucks as launch platforms for missiles. Basically using the body of a trailer as a disguise, and putting in a hydraulic system underneath to lift it up to launch out the front. Not sure what use the US or allies would have for it, or if it would even be legal, but I thought it up years ago.
Every time the video showed the cargo area on a C130, I could smell it. My dad was an avionics tech in the AK Air National Guard, and worked on Hercs for his whole career. So I grew up around them, and then when I joined the Army, it felt like they were the airlift of choice. lol. I love that damned plane.
10:25 for those who think he doesnt butcher every name on purpose - this is freedom name. Very clever cover for someone in international setting and variety of pronunciations, you can always say it was a joke even if you really have no clue how to pronounce it.
i just saw a video about a rotary launcher that popped cruise missiles out the back except they were hypersonic... oh you mentioned it as well near the end.
There's something to be said for the concept of sending up 4 C-17s, 2 loaded with basically inert, cheap and fake cruise missiles and the other 2 loaded with full boogie murder missiles. Swarming air defense just got a lot easier.
Having your boss say "here's a totally separate full-time job to do on-top of your existing full-time job, no raise" is pretty much just daily life in the oligopolistic corporatist hellscape that is modern America.
7000 JASSM's in the US inventory strikes me as quite impressive. Congratulations America you developed a system to help with spamming your JASSM all over the enemy
I think that better guidance and autonomous decision will making, will result is large plane delivering ordnance to near the front more strategically important.
He said they sobered and 1990 and then in 1996 1:35 they came up with a bomb that looks like a big ass beer bottle. Could you imagine getting killed by a big ass beer bottle 😂
Silly question: how does FedEx and UPS load their planes? I'm not at all in the aviation business, but I vaguely remember that a lot of civilian cargo aircraft have their purchases subsidized by Uncle Sam so that he can nationalize them in an emergency. Fifty or sixty 747s quacking legitimate transponder codes could likely put a whole lot of hurt onto a series of targets. Bonus points for a coordinated ToT strike. Of course, that's a trick that could only be used once; but it's a really good trick. Even if the planes sustain some level of damage (cargo doors ripping off, et cetera) during the operation that leads to an eye-watering repair bill it'd still be worthwhile as an initial door knocker against, say, West Taiwan's integrated air defense system, logistics hubs, naval and air bases, and command nodes.
17:20 If I'm not entirely mistaken they've already done that and developed a land based ground launched Tomahawk cruise missile which is fired out of a truck cargo container...
It's one of those ideas you kick yourself for not thinking of sooner. The logistics chain becomes a part of the launch network too. I'd imagine Rapid Dragon would mostly be an opening strike/defense weapon. Then be used for specific attacks. Freeing up a lot of cargo aircraft for shipping normal supplies. To add in a few other details: Consider that we'd probably contract a lot of commercial carriers to deliver supplies (not to front lines, but near by). Then there is the time we landed a C-130 on an aircraft carrier. I'd imagine that adds another layer of versatility.
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11:40 what is that background noise
"If you screw up…, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shi* out of Hong Kong".
-Top Gun
Don't knock yourself so much, Airforce and Army both have a 31 minimum ASVB.
HEY, SPEAKING OF BURRITOS MY FRIEND, YOUR A GENIUS !
THEY CAN DELIVER FOOD AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES ALL ACROSS NEEDED REGIONS RAPIDLY NOW, CALL IT RAPID-GRUB-ON
AND DRINKS RAPID-FLAGON.
- I THINK YOU NEED TO CALL THE SOC AND REFER ME INTO THEIR THINK TANKS. ✅😎👍
Try and get me, try and get me, try and get me to agree to the Army, Navy and Air Force. Try and get me, try and get me, try and get me to agree to the Army, Navy and Air Force. The Navy and Air Force are not going to agree to work together to sink a whole fleet of ships with one C-130 aircraft and JASSM ER cruise missiles. Just look at the Navy's RIMPAC exercise to see that only Navy carrier based aircraft and Navy ships are permitted to sink other ships.
People don’t realize the real power behind the US military is the pallet. Absolutely everything they use can be palletized stacked and shipped then unpacked in extremely efficient and effective manner. The logistics behind of their operations is literally mind boggling. No one can even compare to that capability.
who knew putting boxes on a few wooden planks and shoving em inside a bigger box is a great way to move stuff.
It’s a similar story when it comes to twenty foot containers
The real power of the US military is delusion to hear you tell it. The US logistics are not one iota better than the next country's. Any kind of system deployed from a cargo plane is obviously not remotely survivable against modern air defense.
That's the world!!
Amateurs talk strategy, pros talk logistics
Naming a new weapon after a historical one from an adversary is likely to be used on is peak American.
Trolling at it's finest😁
Considering that dragons are included in nearly every mythology from around the world, I don't feel like the name was directed at them specifically. Cool post-hoc reasoning though.
Edit: I stand corrected, just got to the part in the video where it explains the name.
I mean if you know your history it would pay mortgage to their close ally taiwan too which consider themselves the rightful title of China
@@thespalek1 I was going to say "Cultural Appropriation' 🐉 . 🐿
We apply Sun Tzu better than they do. And the CCP hate traditional Chinese culture anyway.
British: Who measures nuclear bombs by the pallet?
USA: Me.
the us will measure things in anything but metric
🤣
@@GameFuMasterlol so true even though technically the US government is metric believe it or not
@@willpugh8865 yes, the legal inch is defined by a metric value
We've been using the metric system to define all of our measurements since 1832
11:00 "Because they can't just write off a C-130 as a non threat, like they normally do"
C-130 Gunship: Am I a joke to you?
Fair play
This is actually an ingenious strategy by the USAF. Declassified documents show that China accepts they can't shoot down advanced stealth aircraft like the B-2 Bomber or the F-35. So the Chinese strategy has turned from shooting down those advanced jets to shooting down the vulnerable refueling aircraft.
@@williamyoung9401 where'd you get this info? curious to read up ion this leak
@@MoGumbo_ It isn't even really a matter of declassified documents saying it.
It is one thing to be able to detect a stealth aircraft, it is entirely another thing to be able to shoot one down, as a lot of things have to go right in order to complete the kill chain on them. It is much much much easier to get a kill chain on a tanker.
@@MoGumbo_ Not sure about the "can't shoot down advanced stealth aircraft" part, but you can get a good sense of China's strategy simply by looking at the design of the J-20. Compared with the F-22 and F-35, the J-20 is a much larger aircraft with longer operational range and a big weapons bay with space to accommodate space for larger, longer ranged but less agile missiles. In terms of stealth, the J-20 is stealthy from the front, but much less stealthy at other angles due to its canards.
Put this info together and you can see its role - to target vulnerable aircraft like AWACS and refuellers from long range, not go up against advanced stealth aircraft like the F-35.
At most companies - there is an unwritten - but absolute and unavoidable rule:
When you are good at something and show you are responsible, hard-working and a high achiever,
the reward for your great work and effort is often - more work...
Yeah but if they send a few of these Rapid Dragon C-130's out fully loaded, I would assume they wouldn't need so many supplies to support the rest of the war.
Just for point of reference 288 Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched during Operation Desert Storm in 1991. 10 dedicated C-17s can launch 450 AGM-158s. They could theoretically use something like 50 cargo planes to launch well over a thousand of these within minutes completely overwhelming and destroying any and all air defenses a hostile nation may have. In a near peer fight this system is practically an "I win" button.
Range of the missiles when air dropped like that, and the potential for stealthy enemy fighters would be my concern.
@@196cupcake yes, but if its how you start the war, no one questions 50 cargoplanes scattered 500 miles from their border
What is the size of the stockpile though? I don't think that many missiles actually exist, certainly not multiple missions of that scales worth.
@@bogdanovist He mentions in the video that the US alone has 7,500 JASM cruise missiles on hand and just placed an order for another 525. That's not including the missiles currently stockpiled by our allies, like Poland, Japan, Finland and others.
@@196cupcake Said C-17s would most definitely be flying with F-35/F-22 escorts to interdict just such a threat.
The other reason why they canceled the 747 idea was that it was felt that weaponizing civilian type aircraft might have a negative effect on commercial air travel. Korean Airlines 747 was shot down in 1983 by the soviets and it kind of spooked everyone.
Oh it's about to get a whole lot more chaotic- when China rolls out their stated plans for sea-launched missiles disguised as Cargo boxes on commercial shipping vessels
You can bet someone is still mulling over that idea as a contingency in case NATO looses a significant portion of the cargo and bomber fleets. Commandeering some civilian planes in a clutch moment of a conflict-gone-bad to weaponize them is for sure on the menu.
Now it will just be used to stoke the fires of war and propaganda. They shot down a civilian plane....
That was the work of Kim Jong-il who was at the time not yet in charge. Even though the Russians actually carried out this mission for him.
We changed our refueling planes to modified commercial airliners, so I'm not sure your statement is still the military viewpoint.
"Hey gary what cargo did we just drop again"
"MRE's for the ground assets bob why"
"Gary why are those MRE's exploding"
"Oh no..."
"Oh no"
"Oh yeah!"
Hunger is not going to be a problem any more for the enemy troops.
😂
"Colonel! What if the enemy got their hands on this food?"
"We'd win the war!" - MASH
Must have upgraded the hot sauce in them.
10:55 I was getting ready to make this point. As there are many allies who could utilize their cargo fleet to deliver this ordinance. I'm glad you made it.
0:42 The blu-82 bombs had the most badass nickname: Daisy Cutters.
Trebuchet, Fire arrows, Crossbow, axes and Rapid Dragon . Nostalgia arc of the miliary is now in full swing.
Prostagma?
Civ VI too.
A good design is ageless.
Phalanx
The C-130 is an awesome platform. Still flying 60+ years later. This weapon is perfect for C-130s.
it's a ride you really feel haha. I've had the pleasure of riding in a blackhawk, chinook, C-130, and C-17 . I forget if we took a C-5 or a C-17 from the United States into Kuwait though. All I can say is the C-130 was the most expierence of the airplanes. loud as fuck, bumpy. freezing if I remember right it was like 10 years ago. I felt like I WAS cargo. puts a smile on your face though.
The AC-130 has the griffin system that launches hellfires which is more suited for its purpose (CAS in uncontested air space)
@@Taskandpurpose the most precious of cargos 🥺❤️
Wonder how long til USMC buy some kc390
We are still making new C-130s. I think it's the J/J model. It's a good design.
Really making the PLA go from "Hah! It's just a C17!" to "Fuck! IT'S A C-17!"
Disguised as a Civilian Airliner with a transponder... :D
That's the PLAN.
(Do you see what I did there?)
@@smoketinytom pretty sure that's a war crime. I remember hearing a us destroyer shot down a civ airliner because someone pulled this shit up.
@@johnronellequinones4819 Technically it's a form of camouflage. And it's not using a protected symbol like the Red Cross or Red Crescent to transport military hardware or as offensive weapons platforms.
@@johnronellequinones4819 Disguising Military Equipment As Civilian Objects is not a war crime.
Military cargo planes for ground support goes back even earlier with the Puff the Magic Dragon concept which started with some C-47's and old DC-3's.
Before it was known as "Puff" it was "Spooky". It was a C-47 with guns sticking out the side windows. We used them in VN.
0:30 and then he said "IT'S HOOAH TIME!" and HOOAH'd all over the place
Enemy: Hah! It is only a C130 😂
C130: *Begins pooping pallets of missiles*
From 600 miles away😂
Don't forget about the 130s they call Puff the Magic Dragon. That can mess up someone's day, too.
@@TheBlackToedOne what a difference that "A" prefix makes...
@@r7calvinit’s just one letter. How big of a difference can it possibly make? 😂😂😂😂
they wet their pants in the first place when it is a C130 SPECTRE/SPOOKY kekw
I love at the end he shows a logistics truck that was used as the base for a HIMARS while saying "Maybe someday they will figure out how to turn a logi truck into a missile system"
And the truck based LRHW
Rheinmetal just built a cargo container baser Kamikaze Drone system, in a VLS style launcher, that can fling 126 explosive drones in a drone swarm of 10 pound warheads. 😅😅😅
@@AflacMan13 *Ace Combat 7 intensifies*
@@alicorn3924 😆😆😆
Rapid Dragon is unironically the US’ most promising development to ensure the protection of Taiwan. We aren’t building enough submarines, destroyers, bombers, or fighters to pick up the slack.
We got old ships pre 1990s sitting in storage if we go to war it's likely those ships will be put back into service
@@Alejandra-cv7rj easier said then done
@@Alejandra-cv7rj nah no way. Some of these ships needs hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades and its harder in many cases to do these than it is to make a new ship. We also dont have a lot of those 1990s ships right now you can go look at the backup fleets they are quite reduced in size.
promising programs until you realize that didn't have stealth tech, slow and can easily be shoot with low cost missile.
America won't come to the rescue of Taiwan, I bet you five bucks.
I’ve been re-reading my Honor Harrington books. It’s a military sci-fi of future warfare which is dominated by missiles. But it’s not enough to make the most advanced missile, it’s about fielding so many, that your adversary’s defense is overwhelmed. This feels exactly like the book. Make more missiles.
When I first heard about this program a couple years back, the pod-layers from the Honorverse were the first things that popped into my mind as well.
A very cool lady, that Honor Harrington. :)
@@Dori-Ma Ahh, it’s so very rare when I talk about Honor Harrington that anyone knows what I’m talking about. All the geeks seem to care about are Star Wars
@@apok1980 Yeah, it's like the literary equivalent of "Farscape" or "Babylon 5" over on TV when it comes to peoples knowledge about it. Of the small number of people who have heard about it, very few have actually read any of the books.
Well, when it comes to the general public anyways. That's why I watch geek channels like @Spacedock there's a pretty nice range of Sci Fi knowledge between the channel and the community.
@@Dori-Ma Yup, I watch Spacedock also. If you haven’t yet, you should check out the Templar Institute.
My God this channel is something! With all the horrible things going on, your humor and deep insight makes it so much easier to digest. You are a top-tier presenter, as good as anyone on any news network.
Those cruise missles have the ability to fly low and hug the terrain, and that complicates anti-missle battery tracking. Also the s300 and s400 missles are not designed for low altitude counter missle applications, add the stealth signature the size of a walnut exponentially increase the ability for rapid dragon to have a 95% hit probability.
Gepard shot down russian cruise missiles in ukraine no problem. If the chinese or russians can copy the 40 year old Gepard tech (reliable, quick and easy to use) then cruise missiles are ineffective. Basically every system that is in development or procurement right now to counter the drone menace will likely be able to shot down cruise missiles flying low overhead. Everyone will plaster infrastructure and military assets with anti drone defenses in the future, no doubt.
they'd get jammed🤡
Ww3 won't be desert storm so stop masterbating 🤡
They are also reassignable if a target gets hit by another missile before impact or if a hardened target is discovered to be more valuable
While I don't disagree with the assertion that this will absolutely destroy a SAM site, both the S300 and S400 have the capability to intercept low flying cruise missiles. The S300 even has a dedicated low altitude search radar (NATO Name: Clam Shell) designed to address those very threats.
Will it struggle with these modern systems? Yes.
@@Whiskey11GamingEven then rapid dragon can litterally fire hundreds sam sites would be overwhelmed.
WW1-2: "Hey, our enemies have dumped their supply pallets on us! Sweet." WW3: "Oh no, Supply pallets!"
Supply pallets FTW : ))))
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"I heard you want these missiles. Here they are! Please rate our Supersonic Delivery Service 5 Stars~ (If you are still around)"
The Air Force seems to love turning cargo planes into portable armageddon; we had the AC-130, now we have this flying democracy delivery system 😂
*flying democratic republic delivery system*
Instead of AC-130s.They are going to have to call them BC-130s. LOL!!
@@Spartan101st They've got enough acronyms and abbreviations already. Dont give them ideas
In all fairness the real Armageddon Hercules is the EC-130J running TACAMO mission.
FOR SUPER EARTH
China: We will deny you access to Taiwan and the surrounding area when we war with Taiwan.
America: You should have learned from Russia.
[a few moments later]
America: Allow me to introduce you to the Rapid Dragon system and our hypersonic revolver.
Awesome OCP t-shirt, Cappy! Love that movie. Thanks for the excellent information on this subject.
Weaponized logistics pallets? SOMEONE CALL RYAN!
LoL We need to introduce Chris to the Typhon launcher that is part of the army MRC program...weaponized cargo pallet on truck is a reality already.
@@syjiang And I guess they're testing it for ship-borne deployment, too?
I'm picturing one of those massive cargo-carriers with every inch of deck covered in cargo containers spitting-out missiles. Is it possible to sink one of those ships via downward thrust on the deck alone? Let's find out!
Youre weird. That dude is a tard that couldnt make it past e7 in the infantry, the easiest branch to promote in. He doesn't know shit outside of basic infantry stuff. People treat him like he's some savant
@@michaelccozensinstead of imagining go watch WW2 pacific theater footage. They had ships with decks absolutely covered in rockets. Yes they were smaller and unguided but seeing hundreds of rocket engines light up on a ship is still super awesome.
Lebanon Regional: "UPS 242 Heavy, what's that coming out of your aircraft?"
242 Heavy: "Just a local delivery."
:)
I forgot to mention that all the heavy freight haulers from UPS and FedEx can be drafted to haul stuff for the military. We don't really have an airlift shortage. Still it would be better to just build more C-130's and C-17's. As for Rapid Dragon, I think the name is wrong, It should be Rapid Burrito! Mexico needs love too!
Now, remember that Vietnam-era experiment where the Navy launched and landed C130s from a carrier?... Your move, China.
And that was the old E model… Js are more than 25% more powerful and holds records for climb rates, takeoff distance and landing distance under MULTIPLE aircraft takeoff weights.
The current stuff looks like the old stuff but it’s what’s on the inside that counts :)
Fat Albert: JATO has entered the chat
@johnwurfel2862 JATO is still in use for C-130 missions to Antarctica, so I’m sure there’s still a large stockpile of them.
This would be such a cool way of substantially expanding to combat radius of our carriers.
So basically, each carrier is gonna have a dedicated C-130?
Reminds me of that one UAF mod ship in Starsector with big-ass bomber.
Best military channel on UA-cam!!!
Well that makes cargo planes fair game
You should have interviewed Gurler Ari and asked him how he got the idea
He’s no longer affiliated with the military so I dunno if he’d be interested but that’s a great idea
@@TaskandpurposeSend him a msg. I'm sure you found him at the same place I did. I've tried to post it but my comment has been deleted 4 times now. So that's why this one isn't exactly concise & clear lol
You weren't kidding about the ASVAB scores. When I was signing up with the Air Force recruiter in Hannibal, Missouri, there was another guy talking to another Air Force recruiter in the same office. I couldn't hear their conversation, but the young recruit started to cry. The recruiter puts his arm around him and walked him out the office and down the hall. After an hour passed, I see the recruit again and he's high fiving everyone and has a huge grin on his face. When I left the Air Force office I looked down the same hallway the young recruit came from. The office said US Army. His ASVAB scores weren't high enough to get into the Air Force but the Army took him.
ASVAB score determines which MOS (job) you qualify for. I'm sure the Airforce has some MOSs that don't require a high ASVAB score, for example: truck driver, cook, security guard, bulldozer operator, medical orderly, etc. They're not all computer programmers over there.
@@williamblaker2628 That's how it works, but it also has to do with quotas. If manning for all those jobs is "adequate" then there's no reason to sign up people for them. Just use the ones who fail out of tech school instead.
@@Plaprad can't you just study for and retake the ASVAB?
If you really want a particular job that takes a high score, it's probably worth studying a few months and retaking it instead of just giving up, right?
@@r7calvin Not sure about now, but twenty years ago, yes. I had a buddy who missed his job by like two points. So he retook the ASVAB again a month later IIRC. He got the job he wanted.
But, they also change the requirements. So, if your wanted job requires say, a score of 69 and you made 67, then you could retake it. But, when you retake and make a 70, the job could have been changed to require 75.
Not a big thing, but it happened to my recruiter, so it got pounded into my head when I was doing the enlistment stuff.
I think Marines even average a higher score
We do have a 747 with a giant chemical laser too! My family member was a senior engineer on the ABL(AIR BOURNE LASER) that is still in our inventory and very capable!
Sssshhhhhh your talking to loud
Tell us more about this "layzer", comra... Uhh, friendo
The CCP is listening 👂
Yeah ... it also made no sense. The US really is into going full ACME these days.
... very capable ... hell these ppl should read ther own assessment papers intead of fangirling every tax billion they wasted without have a tactical/physical check in the first place ...
I mean with that laser thingy - is atmospheric gasses a new thing they only explored once they finished that plane?
A new meaning to logistics wins wars
Cappy your videos are getting more crazy!!! News with comedy!!! 😂😂😂 I love it
13:42 I like how the palette has the capability of dragging the chute out of the plane. Amazing piece of hdw
That’s old. I did it in the ‘60’s (C-141’s). Load 1 caries the extraction ‘chute for load 2, 2 carries 3, etc. 1 comes out of a bomb release above the ramp. Old, but it works. The extraction part of this is long perfected. The new part is what’s getting yanked out of the plane. Missles instead of trucks and tanks.
I love Rapid Dragon because it means that a casual Cargo Aircraft can carry enough Cruise Missiles to make any Adversary VERY nervous about any Cargo Aircraft anywhere near them. And by "Anywhere near them" I mean within 1,000 miles
So a bunch of civilian aircraft will get shot down like in the past, cool
It's a cool and useful weapon, but this is a nightmare scenario for civil aviation
@@sCiphreIf a large-scale war broke out where a system like this is needed to be deployed, then civil aviation is already f u c k e d anyway.
@@aaroncabatingan5238 I like to think that China is looking at this and going "well, we can't afford that many radars"
And what's even more of a flex.....our adversaries have nowhere near the number of cargo aircraft we do to even attempt this tactic.
10:21 y'all say that's a b-1 takeoff, but that's a B-2 spirit.
Good catch
Never Underestimate a Humble Old Man Sitting in a Corner! Most are Vets that Have been in the WORST!
A college buddy of mine worked on one of those inertial guidance systems. The goal was accuracy of three feet at one thousand miles. They achieved an accuracy of three _inches_ at _ten_ thousand miles. In his words, "They wanted us to be able to hit a car from a thousand miles away, and we gave them the ability to hit a guy in the nuts from halfway around the world."
Of course, real-world accuracy isn't that good...yet.
At least, not according to public records.
Dragons Breath has a whole new meaning now
This is dragon's poop.
Did I hear Mrs Cappy clanking dishes around 11:30 lol
that's exactly what that was lol I thought maybe it would sound like cargo clanking around instead
Too funny 😂
@@Taskandpurpose😂 she's doing double duty
Oh darn beat me to this lol
As someone who’s been reading Honor Harrington novels for decades, it’s nice to see the military catching up to the concept of “Roll Pods!” and having the enemy shit itself.
Thank you, whole reason I was scrolling was to find this reference.
It took me a minute.... OCP RoboCop... Cool shirt man.
"Be advised, Swarm inbound"
3:39 using "thrust" with that on screen is.. strategic language. Your editing Easter eggs don't go unnoticed lol
8:30💀💀
DARPA: sometimes my own genius frightens me
This is right up there with the ground attack crop duster. It seems wonderful until you realize that air defense still exists. If people were already planning to shoot down your real cruise missile carriers, and they are, this is not going to pose a challenge.
Literally a cargo plane-sized MIRV
Good work Paul thank you. Though I’ve known about this for sometime your video managed to give me some new information which is hard to come by. thank you for your service and for the entertainment.
US MIlitary in the 2000s: Nah man we don't have to fire 45 cruise missiles at a dude with an AK... at one time.
"...mentally ill in the best way possible..." absolutely priceless. Cappy you're a G
This went in the opposite direction than I expected. I imagined a missile that would deliver supplies to troops in the field.
That supply is a 1000lbs warhead. And it goes to the enemy forehead.
It’s an involuntary munitions donation
@submachinegun5737 that's what I'm gonna call it when I get diarrhea
Bro, your videos are gold.
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7.20 The C-130 "A rough slow ride". First time I travelled Wallaby Airlines [RAAF] in a C-130 I thought the interior looked like the compressor area of a refrigerator. Damn good in flight food though compared to what the Army used to feed us.
Veteran with life long interest in military hardware. Two thoughts: BRILLIANT and WHY haven't I heard about this before? Great video
As for logistic trucks being converted into missile trucks, we've already seen Brimstones being launched from a van.
Imagine when next, each one drops and deploys 10,000 AI piloted drones with a 20lb explosive each
I find it odd that hasn’t happened yet: in 2019 at a cybersecurity conference, we discussed the war game scenario of a terrorist driving a truck filled with IED-toting quadcopters to a soft target for asymmetric warfare
Why not a cruise missile that when it nears the target, launches 50 2kg drones that auto target anything in the vicinity while the missile goes on to hit its main target?
@@shaeleableI would imagine there would be a lot of "shear forces" involved making this an engineering nightmare if not down right impossible.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't investigate this possibility. I just think that we should tackle it from the angle of overcoming the "moment of deployment" issue as the hardest problem to solve.
@@pierowmania2775 Oh absolutely there would be some issues with launching drones from a cruise missile body at 600mph, but it would be awesome to see.. from a distance 🤣
@@shaeleable at that point it is just easier to drop a cluster munition
Liking the OCP T - “part infantry, part UA-cam, dead or alive, you’re subscribing to me” 😂
Take a look at the QuickSink system, which is just a recoding of the targeting program on a JDAM, and consider what that software tweak could do if applied to the Rapid Dragon system and deployed in the South China Sea.
Suddenly the Philippines and Taiwan enjoy wonderfully improved security.
This is actually soothing in context.
Please keep making weapon systems' metaphors for/with different foods items. Makes me laugh my ass off every time.
Build more C130s. We could use the capacity. Plus they can handle landing in "rough" areas, allowing Rapid Dragon packages to be disbursed to more locations than a near peer can saturate with their own cruise missiles.
I didn't know it was named after an ancient siege weapon from China, of all places...But on a more important note; Con Air is one of the few Nic Cage movies that are not only watchable, but actually good. The Rock and Gone in 60 seconds are even better in my opinion.
The original "Gone in 60 seconds" was good but the reboot was really good.
YOOO DUDE❕AHAAHA @8:20 SHIZZ LIKE THAT IS WHY I'M ALWAYS GNA ROCK WIT U BRO
You should do a video on the Marine Corps Harvest Hawk program. This is a program that's already been tested and employed. Very similar but for the KC-130J and hellfire and gryphon missiles.
Now, put it in orbit
DoD is very interested in military use of Starship so...
@@Ormusn2othey are probably interested in boring things like spy sats
And not haveing dosens of cruise missiles in space :(
ODST
@@nikolaideianov5092 They got Falcon 9 for that. Besides more sats, they want orbital dropship space marines. It's more for logistics and not ODST like in Halo
at least for now.
@@Ormusn2o
Not likely
Imagine the entire concept started because a bunch of Engineers, a couple of pilots and loadmasters started talking at a bar over drinks and somebody came up with the crazy idea with this as the end result
Funny thing is that I actually have been thinking about a system like that for years. A bomber is only useful during war but a cargo plane is useful all the time, so by giving cargo planes that capability not only would you increase your vectors of ordnance delivery available, you would do it for way cheaper. Take a plane like the Embraer C-390 Millennium, pair it up with something like an E-8 or E-3 Sentry for long range target guidance and you could dominate huge areas.
You thought of it ... and people a log time thought of it before. And a long time therefor other people thought of it.
It still makes no economical/strategical/tactical sense. But i guess that's the part people tend to skip in ther fascination of "I did brain" -.-
Look at the show Stargate look at the drones
Use to fly the C5A Galaxy to Hickam and Travis, cost for a hop flight was $10.00 each way in 82.
A C-17 can hold 5 pallets of 9 JASSM 158Ds. C-5 can hold double the standard pallets of a C-17. 90 AGM-158Ds. That would be the equivalent payload of 4 B-52s. Substitute some payloads with the planned jammers and a few C-5s could counter A2/AD.
And Uncle Sam said: "LET THERE BE A BIG BOOM!!"
That 747 is exactly the plane I'd most like to visit my family with;-)
Plenty of those going spare right now.
Great video as always, I have finally caught up and watched every video on your main channel…go me 🙃
Now feel I’m a true member of the spare parts army 😁
thanks for sticking through those terrible early videos haha
@@Taskandpurpose haha they not terrible dude, you have certainly honed your craft though.
Most the time people that do silly jokes on there videos are generally unfunny. But will admit I either crack a smile, or have a little chuckle with yours. Keep up the good work, to you and your crew 👍😎
Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength lies.
I actually thought up an idea when I was 12 or something to uses freight trucks as launch platforms for missiles. Basically using the body of a trailer as a disguise, and putting in a hydraulic system underneath to lift it up to launch out the front. Not sure what use the US or allies would have for it, or if it would even be legal, but I thought it up years ago.
Can we Kickstarter "Alt Air: Con Air 2" starring Chris Cappy? I heard Cage finally paid his debts off so maybe an EP credit.
my guilty pleasure is staying in all weekend watching terrible Cage movies
Oh good. So the southern accent won't be a problem. This project is coming together flawlessly.
Every time the video showed the cargo area on a C130, I could smell it.
My dad was an avionics tech in the AK Air National Guard, and worked on Hercs for his whole career. So I grew up around them, and then when I joined the Army, it felt like they were the airlift of choice. lol. I love that damned plane.
10:25 for those who think he doesnt butcher every name on purpose - this is freedom name. Very clever cover for someone in international setting and variety of pronunciations, you can always say it was a joke even if you really have no clue how to pronounce it.
17:20 funny you mentioned that on your last line. Wait til you hear about the army’s new Typhon system.
i just saw a video about a rotary launcher that popped cruise missiles out the back except they were hypersonic... oh you mentioned it as well near the end.
There's something to be said for the concept of sending up 4 C-17s, 2 loaded with basically inert, cheap and fake cruise missiles and the other 2 loaded with full boogie murder missiles. Swarming air defense just got a lot easier.
The explosives are not what makes these things expensive.
@@rogerk6180 AGREE ; )))
And by "fake" missiles, I assume you are talking about ADM-160 MALD decoy missiles?
Having your boss say "here's a totally separate full-time job to do on-top of your existing full-time job, no raise" is pretty much just daily life in the oligopolistic corporatist hellscape that is modern America.
"Second 40"
I mean, if you can do both "full time jobs" in an single work day, doesn't that mean you previous job was too easy, and not actually an full time job?
Should have learned a trade, got some experince in that trade and start your own business in said trade, that way the more you work the more you make.
7000 JASSM's in the US inventory strikes me as quite impressive. Congratulations America you developed a system to help with spamming your JASSM all over the enemy
I applaud you for illustrating the Danger Zone.
"insane in the best way possible" best line ever.
Sounds really stupid honestly, when the enemy eventually shoots down a civilian airliner you got no one to blame but yourself
That’s silly, especially when enemy kills thousands of soldiers and people on the ground
"Pallet of cruise missiles" is not a combination of words I ever expected to hear.
I think that better guidance and autonomous decision will making, will result is large plane delivering ordnance to near the front more strategically important.
1:30 “they’d all sobered up by the 90’s” *shows a missile that looks exactly like a beer bottle afterwards😭😭
He said they sobered and 1990 and then in 1996 1:35 they came up with a bomb that looks like a big ass beer bottle. Could you imagine getting killed by a big ass beer bottle 😂
Silly question: how does FedEx and UPS load their planes?
I'm not at all in the aviation business, but I vaguely remember that a lot of civilian cargo aircraft have their purchases subsidized by Uncle Sam so that he can nationalize them in an emergency.
Fifty or sixty 747s quacking legitimate transponder codes could likely put a whole lot of hurt onto a series of targets. Bonus points for a coordinated ToT strike. Of course, that's a trick that could only be used once; but it's a really good trick. Even if the planes sustain some level of damage (cargo doors ripping off, et cetera) during the operation that leads to an eye-watering repair bill it'd still be worthwhile as an initial door knocker against, say, West Taiwan's integrated air defense system, logistics hubs, naval and air bases, and command nodes.
I live in Arkansas and Im right next to a drop zone for c130 practice drops. Cool too see it's rare
0:56 and just like that, I finally learned why commercial airplanes are shotdown over conflict zones
Cappy wears OCP Tee, talking about crazy cruise missile system. Yup checks out 👍
17:20 If I'm not entirely mistaken they've already done that and developed a land based ground launched Tomahawk cruise missile which is fired out of a truck cargo container...
It's one of those ideas you kick yourself for not thinking of sooner.
The logistics chain becomes a part of the launch network too. I'd imagine Rapid Dragon would mostly be an opening strike/defense weapon. Then be used for specific attacks. Freeing up a lot of cargo aircraft for shipping normal supplies.
To add in a few other details: Consider that we'd probably contract a lot of commercial carriers to deliver supplies (not to front lines, but near by).
Then there is the time we landed a C-130 on an aircraft carrier. I'd imagine that adds another layer of versatility.
Notice that the stiffest tree is most easily cracked, while the bamboo or willow survives by bending with the wind.
Great presentation...informative and entertaining.
Great video!