They're a lot less popular/discussed than NAS's, but direct attached storage (DAS) is another great option if you don't need the network connectivity, and just want aggregated storage accessible over USB, SATA, etc. It also removes some of the risks inherent to NAS devices, i.e. the QNAP compromise.
Definitely a must buy. The NAS is more handy than DAS cause you can set it up so that you can share for example a customer file while you are travelling.. I myself am going to build NAS from my old computer. Old hardware into use instead of waste 🤗
There are a few more reasons, also. You can use Snapshots as backup or even backup in cloud with HBS software during the night. It is a great solution for teams, working in Premiere Pro Productions environment, also.
Just replaced a failing drive in my NAS. Thankfully my NAS keeps me updated via email when a drives health is deteriorating. Zero downtime and zero lost files. Literally took me 5 minutes to replace and press a few buttons to rebuild the volume all without powering down the NAS. I also backup my recent work to another offsite NAS. Thank goodness for gigabit internet.
Hey Matt, thanks for sharing all your knowledge and information about film making and video work. I always seem to come back to your videos becuase I trust your work. Keep it up and again, thank you.
Great video Matt. What are the read and write speeds on your NAS? Here's what I do. I store all my data on the NAS, then download what I need to a Samsung X5 Portable SSD. It has read and write speeds of 2,800MB/s and 2,300MB/s respectively, which really helps during editing and exporting. Once done, I upload any of the newly created files and video output back to the NAS. I've tried editing off my NAS. It's okay but nothing like that X5 SSD! 👍 Oh and we say NAS like "Jazz"! It's potato, potahto, you know! But you make it sound much more "fancier". Hehe! 😏
So when you want to edit your videos, do you need to connect your computer to the internet via Ethernet cable? I can imagine you would be able to access and edit the 4K video effectively, or at all, from a Wi-Fi connection at a coffee shop. Or, can you?
Looking at this solution as I'm moving from a solo editors to having my first employee start soon. I need a way to share TB's of data and assets with each other. Thinking this is a good solution
Pronounced "Nazz" (like "Razz", from someone who has been using them for decades). I rarely ever edit off a NAS...edit locally off internal or external SSD, then sync files back to your NAS (I script my backups, e.g. w/ rsync, but there are backup apps out there). For faster over-the-wire throughput, look for HW that supports link aggregation/bonding. Of course your routers must support it, as well. I've used Synology for ages, but there are many decent NAS vendors out there. For the bold, you can usually configure your NAS to act as a 'cloud', directly accessible from anywhere in the world, e.g., via OpenVPN, but if you're not IT-savvy, best to use the vendor's 'cloud' mirroring services, otherwise you might inadvertently open up your NAS to the world.
Can someone explain how does redundancy work? I.e. if one of your hard drives fail, how does the NAS have a back up of it? If you have 2 10tb drives in there is there just double back up? And what if both fail? I’m just curious cause this has happened to me
CHM is a great option if you're Christian. There are lots of "health sharing ministries" that act as insurance for emergencies. The biggest thing on top of that is having a sizeable emergency fund!
Thank you for great video. I have a big collection of 4k disks and need a nas for saving my rips and also making my own cloud an accessible for my family to movies and whatever they need. What would you recommend, qnap or synology as far as software and user-friendly? Thanks
I got a NAS and have ordered a 2nd one exactly the same to mirror to at my parents house. Shucking drives is your friend for getting big disks a bit cheaper.
Needed this video right now! Thanks, Matt! You have any 2023 cloud storage suggestions? Looking at storing raw footage at the cloud on top of my hard drives.
I had some bad experiences using Western Digital product. Three of my 2 tb ext. harddrives, broken. Lost all the data. Never had problems with Samsung so far.
Great video as I have been considering getting one of these but I have a ton of questions lol. For very specific questions, what contact at QNAP would you recommend I reach out to as I would like to use this to store all my unreal engine projects that I can run from.
Something you did not cover Matt is .... what you do when you have to add capacity. Does QNAP have software that allows you to just add larger hard drives over time, and it will reconfigure like Synology? For me, that's a deal-breaker as every time I get a hard drive set up and sorted out, I quickly realise that I'm running out of space in no time. I'm at 27TB, and this year I think I will get close to 40TB. Real shame Drobo has gone under as that was the perfect solution for a DAS that you back up to Backblaze for no extra cost (NAS normally cost more to back up to cloud services) Great video as ever.
Note that with Synology it depends on the RAID configuration you are in. If you have a RAID 1 configuration (2 drives, 1 drive mirrored on to another) and you wish to move to a RAID 10 configuration (2 drives mirrored on to 2 drives), you will have to backup all your data and then reload it on to the drives once their in a RAID 10 array. That being said, when it comes to adding more drive e.g. 3 drives mirrored on to 3 drives, if you stay in the RAID 10 setup, you will not have to go through this, but note, whilst it can be done, it's wise not to have an array spread across an expansion (i.e. DS923+ with DX517). Also we'd always suggest you implement a Hot Spare, this means if a drive ever fails, it will automatically start being mended by the Hot Spare, saving you from having to put a HDD in yourself, after realising a drive has failed, but note, a Hot Spare can only monitor and automatically mend 1 pool, so it's wise to have 1 hot spare per storage pool.
@@PremiumProductionsUKmost would not use raid 1 or 10 on a Synology drive as that’s working against its biggest strength. Most would use SHR which allows a single drive failure which is then hot swappable by you. If you need to increase the size you just add a larger drive, let it rebuild. Then add a second new larger drive and it will rebuild and increase there capacity. All without having to move data anywhere. Is that what you were referring to?
@@Myview72 SHR and SHR2 are great plug and play ‘RAID’ solutions but they’re not our preference where you have 4+ drives. When you have 2 drives in SHR, you are effectively in a RAID 1 setup, as you’re mirroring your data. When you then want to add an additional drive and have 3 drives, you will then be using 1 drive as parity; you’re basically in a RAID 5 setup with SHR when you have 3+ drives. If you want to add an additional drive (4 drives now), you will then still only be losing 1 drive. If you want to move to SHR2, it’s easy and like you say, there’s no need to erase your data. Note that moving back to SHR, after deploying SHR2 would lead you to losing data though. You will then be in an effectively RAID 6 setup, with 2 drives being lost to parity. The benefit of SHR over RAID is that you can choose any size HDD, where as with RAID 5 and RAID 6 all your drives have to be the same size, and if they’re not, the additional space is lost. We prefer RAID 10 because it doesn’t have parity, all data is mirrored, so it offers better performance than SHR2 and lower risk of concurrent disk failures, due to how mirrors work vs how parity works, thus the lifespan of a RAID 10 setup vs SHR/SHR2 is generally longer and also remirroring is faster than recalculating parity, especially on larger drives, not only that, but the task of mending a drive using parity is more likely to destroy the drive vs mirroring it, due to the workload. So our setup solution is always RAID 10 with a Hot Spare, that way, if one of the drives were to break whilst no one was going to be on site for a few days, the rebuild would start taking place immediately, then when you’re back on site, you can remove the broken HDD and replace it with a new Hot Spare HDD.
@@PremiumProductionsUK can you add drives with RAID 10 on the fly, or if you have a failure, then? My issue is that I can not justify replacing all the drives when I need to increase the size. Thats why I have used SHR2 previously. I thought RAID 10 meant you had to all drives the same, is that not the case?
@@Myview72 In Raid 10 the smallest pair dictates the size of all the other pairs, this is why we would always suggest to get the highest TB you can justify at purchase.
A little off topic because I'm not a film maker but I'm trying to figure out whether I really need a NAS for my home theater. I'm thinking maybe a PC with several hard disc connected via USB would work just fine to stream 4K video for the home theater. Would there really be an advantage to using a NAS for this application? Thanks, mk.
A NAS is already a plug and play 'computer' - it just doesn't ship with a monitor. Most ship with Plex already installed. Plex is a video streaming app optimized for fast reads and all the video codec support you'll need... a world of difference. So, attach NAS, navigate to your NAS console (I use Synology, so this is DSM), install Plex, create a folder (on the NAS) - drop all your vids into it and let Plex do the rest. When you navigate to it for your home theatre, the interface will let you pick and play videos a la the Netflix interface.
But better anyway get a backup for any NAS😅 This summer my NAS (QNAP) just burned up, and after few month the next one had issues with raid and it was really really hard to get to my files. It all almost never happends, but never say never😅 After this, I have NAS, backup NAS which makes copies from the main one every night and bunch of SDs with not edited weddings🙈
I'm still researching this but it appears there's a high fail rate at rebuilding data when using the RAID 5 configuration if your drive is not an enterprise version and you are using a harddrive with high storage like 16TB. Would love to know if anyone here has figured out a best practice when trying to max out TB but have a good rebuild rate in RAID 5.
You should look the Level1Tech videos why the 1980th technology of RAID shouldn't be used anymore. And yes RAID 5 with more then 4TB drives is madness and not advised by any storage producer since at least 2010. It's just mathematical proven from the drive specs that there will be a bit error during rebuilding. And thats enough to crash all of it.
About 8 years ago I went with a similar product, a DROBO B800fs. It was just so slow with backing up over Ethernet (only option), taking days, and already the driver software is now legacy. No wonder used ones sell for cheap on eBay now. I still have all eight of the 3TB drives that could likely work on a QNAP, but still pretty spooked about my first NAS experience.
I bought the Drobo 5D (not nas) and even bought a card for the cache memory slot. It was pretty quick for what I needed it for. Then the actual Drobo died after only 2 years and wouldn't read the drives. Went to look to replace it and come to find out the company declared bankruptcy last year after two years of every product on the site saying out of stock. I now have a heavy brick and 4 TB of forever lost data (my fault for not having a backup). Drobo was a terrible product.
NASs are actually pretty easy to setup and configure. if you can justify the cost grab a QNAP or Synology. they're pretty much plug and play and they make everything pretty simple to setup. if you have the option try to get something that can do thunderbolt (if your computer supports it) as that's one of the more easy connection methods for it. otherwise look into 2.5gbe or 10gbe. good luck!
@@AIPTutorials I had the same Drobo. my ex now uses it. I just have an OS NVME Drive , and two other 2 TB NVME for active projects I’m working on and back up to two internal inexpensive 16 TB spinning Drives for archives. Each year I get new archive drives and leave one of last year’s large hard drive in case I need to access for clients.
I have really been looking hard lately at a NAS. Far less expensive than tons of external drives with faster access. I really am torn between QNAP and Synology. Great teaser video.
I have been hacked twice while using a qnap server :/ make sure to setup a vpn if you use qnap there protection from ransomware attacks is pretty garbage!
Love having a NAS but really got burned by QNAP when they knowingly sold machines with a faulty chip. They wouldn't do anything for their customers that this affected. I recommend a better company.
QNAP is vulnerable to ransomware...My NAS (TS 251+) was encrypted with a ransomware called deadbolt asking for a large bitcoin deposit to release the key. QNAP is not my preferred method anymore. Keep that in mind !
Everybody alway talks about Storage space for backup. I have very large projects I need to edit in real time. My current FCPX project is sitting at 7TB, the project itself, the raw files are much greater. So talking about space just isn't enough.
Look into TrueNAS. I turned a Dell T330 into a home NAS with TrueNAS. Got 7x 2TB drives in RAID6, got 7.5TB usable drive space and 2 drive failure survival.
@@alhadjiril I happen to cross a UA-cam tutorial on how to do this and it very well may have been from true NAS. I'll have to go look at my saved links. Thanks for the suggestion!
I've been REALLY contemplating getting a NAS. Specifically looking at the Synology ones where you can put in the M2 drives for temp storage to speed up transfers.
Dont open your qnap to online cloud.. I wouldnt recommend it. We got our QNAP nas hit with malware ransomware and it encrypted some of our files a while back. Dont do it Matt, just keep it off line.
Can you calirify on the "SSD like speeds" on the NAS? that doesn't make much sense to my knowledge. Even with a 10GB ethernet, you still using slow HDDs so the speed will be at most the same as that of any HDD
Correct. Agree with Tomasz here, as well. A NAS will rarely, if ever get you SSD speeds. SSD is basically a light speed HD (pure circuitry/no moving parts). As long as an HD has moving parts (read: spinning/spindle drives - even 7200 rpm) it'll never match SSD, unless your NAS has all SSD drives (doable, but very expensive). Even if you're directly attached via CAT6 ethernet cable or better (and most don't, preferring Wi-Fi access), local/USB attached SSD will still be faster. There are 'upper end' ethernet solutions, of course, but it somewhat defeats the purpose of a 'convenient' home-based cloud network if you have to tether.
Does anyone know if there’s a way to use something similar to a NAS but access that footage online? I’m constantly on the go, so having to access files easily is a big deal. but always carrying around a bunch of hard drives start to become a pain and i risk damaging them if i have to carry them around everywhere
That's the purpose of a NAS. They're essentially like a cloud based storage (think One Drive, Google Drive etc...) but at your home without any monthly subscriptions. With the proper setup, you'll be able to use your NAS like a cloud storage
Depends on how you want to access over the internet. Making a VPN on a NAS or on your home router is not too hard. Then you can remotely log into your NAS or map network drives through SMB. But the speed is not so fast over the internet. Not fast enough to directly edit off the NAS. You can generate proxies so you can download the proxy and edit. Davinci Resolve 18 makes proxy editing especially easy. Another option is having your 4K or 8K media on a NAS. But put proxies on LucidLink. You can then use your preferred editing software as if the proxy were on your laptop even though it is actually on the LucidLink server. Third option is to keep a PC where the NAS is and use Parsec to remotely control the PC to edit video off the NAS. But the image quality of Parsec is not perfect. For some, it is good enough.
@@eduardomedina961 oh awesome. i think my only concern would be if the transfer speeds would be fast enough if i was at a remote location, assuming im tethered to ethernet. i know google drive was insanely slow with even uploading a couple GBs of data, much less TBs
@@danielfrancis-lyon8735 ah gotcha. i think for the purpose of NAS, if i was editing at a remote location, i would be open to just having access to download that footage rather than trying to edit directly off of it
@@herokme0that will depend on your internet speeds.. adding an Ethernet cable won’t magically make your upload speeds faster when the bottleneck is someone else’s server. As for LAN an Ethernet connection will help but then the bottlenecks become the NIC or the HDD’s themselves. I’m still scratching my head as to why this dude spent the money on a 10G NIC for mechanical HDD’s. I doubt he will even saturate a gigabit with that setup lol.
My qnap had a fault and is unusable/doesnt boot, after doing some research turns out its a common problem and they didnt do a recall so when i contacted them they wanted to charge me $300 for the repair because it was out of warranty, i even sent them this video to show them what problem it is ua-cam.com/video/c5k8FWe6u60/v-deo.html I will never buy a qnap ever again.
Had one of these, QNAP had a major backend hack where literally thousands of home server's got infected with ransomware. I didn't realize my server was getting hacked until after more than 10TB of footage was encrypted (never recovered it, some of which was wedding footage btw). I will never trust a NAS again, only direct/local storage. I use OWC's local raid setups now, much better speeds & there not connected to the internet (Yes, my computer can still get hacked, but I keep it updated to the latest OS). So unless you're savvy with network protocols I'd say away from this product.
I’ve heard about that happening with QNAP devices. I think a nas is still a good choice as long as you either A: keep it up to date as often as possible, or B: have it setup in a way that it is only accessible on your local network and not accessible from the broader internet. I realize that will negate some of the usefulness of a nas but is a good safety net.
@@whoismatt You can also connect it to the broader internet and still be safe as long as the only way it is accessible is through a VPN (virtual private network). It's a little more annoying to connect to that way, but it keeps things safe. There are tons of videos on how to set that up, it's really not that bad.
What a waste of time this video is. All 3 reasons can simply be achieved with other cheaper solutions. You did not cover the main reason that someone would like to invest in NAS and that is sharing capabilities. I particularly would like to know what is the speed transfer, if I would like to transfer 250GB RAW file wedding from UK to my editor in America. I do know it also depends on internet speed, but you can test with whatever you have and that would be more valuable info for me. All your talking sounds like one big advert and it's sad :(
How can HDDs offer SSD like speed? That's why you should never make your purchase decisions based on sponsored videos. Never coming back to this channel
I'm so mad, normally I like Matt. But this video just shows why you shouldn't watch youtube channels like his. Sure, all his fancy 10 thousand pieces of equipment that he gets for free is SUPER NICE and SUPPER CONVENIENT. It just isn't in the budget for all of us normies who aren't getting it for free or making money by you watching this video or clicking the links
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Love my NAS with my editing. Highly recommend-72 TB and still growing. You're the best Matt.
They're a lot less popular/discussed than NAS's, but direct attached storage (DAS) is another great option if you don't need the network connectivity, and just want aggregated storage accessible over USB, SATA, etc. It also removes some of the risks inherent to NAS devices, i.e. the QNAP compromise.
Why would we need it without network connectivity? Seems the risk is more inherent with a DAS compared to NAS.
I use DAS with 12*5tb now.
@@lemondubs If you ever had a NAS die you will learn. And before this just ask your bank account how it feels with having $1000 more on it.
do you recommend any model in particular, im interested
Definitely a must buy. The NAS is more handy than DAS cause you can set it up so that you can share for example a customer file while you are travelling.. I myself am going to build NAS from my old computer. Old hardware into use instead of waste 🤗
Love my QNAP TVS-872XT. I’ve got 8 14TB drives in it
😍 majestic
Which raid did you use, 10?
It's good to know that the OG New York Rapper is still popular to this day!
There are a few more reasons, also. You can use Snapshots as backup or even backup in cloud with HBS software during the night. It is a great solution for teams, working in Premiere Pro Productions environment, also.
Wait a sec did you say SSD like speeds? Even with let’s say a Synology 414 if I’m buying it second hand?
Just replaced a failing drive in my NAS. Thankfully my NAS keeps me updated via email when a drives health is deteriorating. Zero downtime and zero lost files. Literally took me 5 minutes to replace and press a few buttons to rebuild the volume all without powering down the NAS.
I also backup my recent work to another offsite NAS. Thank goodness for gigabit internet.
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Matt ,what about 3 years warranty on western WD?
Hey Matt, thanks for sharing all your knowledge and information about film making and video work. I always seem to come back to your videos becuase I trust your work. Keep it up and again, thank you.
Great video Matt. What are the read and write speeds on your NAS? Here's what I do. I store all my data on the NAS, then download what I need to a Samsung X5 Portable SSD. It has read and write speeds of 2,800MB/s and 2,300MB/s respectively, which really helps during editing and exporting. Once done, I upload any of the newly created files and video output back to the NAS. I've tried editing off my NAS. It's okay but nothing like that X5 SSD! 👍 Oh and we say NAS like "Jazz"! It's potato, potahto, you know! But you make it sound much more "fancier". Hehe! 😏
Good point. You'll be severely limited by network speed
You will get max 1/3 of that on 10gbps network and you need to use Ethernet and have 10gbps network card in your workststion
So when you want to edit your videos, do you need to connect your computer to the internet via Ethernet cable? I can imagine you would be able to access and edit the 4K video effectively, or at all, from a Wi-Fi connection at a coffee shop. Or, can you?
Looking at this solution as I'm moving from a solo editors to having my first employee start soon. I need a way to share TB's of data and assets with each other. Thinking this is a good solution
Hi Matt, end of year discounts are coming up and I would like to get your opinion on editing equipment recommended by you for this year 2023 please.
Dude I love your beard! Keep it going!
Pronounced "Nazz" (like "Razz", from someone who has been using them for decades). I rarely ever edit off a NAS...edit locally off internal or external SSD, then sync files back to your NAS (I script my backups, e.g. w/ rsync, but there are backup apps out there). For faster over-the-wire throughput, look for HW that supports link aggregation/bonding. Of course your routers must support it, as well. I've used Synology for ages, but there are many decent NAS vendors out there. For the bold, you can usually configure your NAS to act as a 'cloud', directly accessible from anywhere in the world, e.g., via OpenVPN, but if you're not IT-savvy, best to use the vendor's 'cloud' mirroring services, otherwise you might inadvertently open up your NAS to the world.
Can someone explain how does redundancy work? I.e. if one of your hard drives fail, how does the NAS have a back up of it?
If you have 2 10tb drives in there is there just double back up? And what if both fail?
I’m just curious cause this has happened to me
What's the difference between a NAS and simply installing platter drives right inside the pc case, as long as the case has the space it needs?
So you edit videos directly from nas or do you first copy it over to your local ssd?
What do you do for health insurance? I might be making the switch over to full time this year, and that’s something that I have to think about
CHM is a great option if you're Christian. There are lots of "health sharing ministries" that act as insurance for emergencies. The biggest thing on top of that is having a sizeable emergency fund!
Thank you for great video. I have a big collection of 4k disks and need a nas for saving my rips and also making my own cloud an accessible for my family to movies and whatever they need. What would you recommend, qnap or synology as far as software and user-friendly? Thanks
Hi I always enjoy your channel. Only one question, backblaze will not cheap any more if you use NAS. You must go to B2 option, Am I right?
Right in the knick of time, I’m about to run out of storage on my RAID 5 112TB Thunderbay 8 and I’m strongly considering getting a NAS.
What about the cloud ?
Dude that thing is a tank!
😂 yup!
I got a NAS and have ordered a 2nd one exactly the same to mirror to at my parents house. Shucking drives is your friend for getting big disks a bit cheaper.
I need to do that
Cool.. what's shucking drives?
@@Elazarko buy usb versions and take them out the housing it saves loads
Needed this video right now! Thanks, Matt! You have any 2023 cloud storage suggestions? Looking at storing raw footage at the cloud on top of my hard drives.
Backblaze is a great option!
Buying QNAP. Thanks 🙏
Is it better to edit internally on MacBook Pro SSD compared to something like Pegasus3 R4 or NAS. Maybe internal SSD is more optimised and why?
I have 3 separate hard drives. Works for me and I believe costed less
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Thank you. Great info. Cheers. 😀
Any thoughts on QNAP over Synology?
I had some bad experiences using Western Digital product. Three of my 2 tb ext. harddrives, broken. Lost all the data. Never had problems with Samsung so far.
Great timing man... my 10tb of sandisk SSD's is getting ridiculous.
I think if you got some time and likes DIY, use Truenas instead. It will be much cheaper and you can customize the specs to your liking.
I’ve heard good things about Truenas
Matt Johnson has a beautiful Nas(s)
Do you keep all your footage after you've delivered the final video?
Not the creator here, but for the love of god, yes! keep everything!
Absolutely no way. Aint nobody paying me to do that
Great video as I have been considering getting one of these but I have a ton of questions lol. For very specific questions, what contact at QNAP would you recommend I reach out to as I would like to use this to store all my unreal engine projects that I can run from.
Something you did not cover Matt is .... what you do when you have to add capacity. Does QNAP have software that allows you to just add larger hard drives over time, and it will reconfigure like Synology? For me, that's a deal-breaker as every time I get a hard drive set up and sorted out, I quickly realise that I'm running out of space in no time. I'm at 27TB, and this year I think I will get close to 40TB. Real shame Drobo has gone under as that was the perfect solution for a DAS that you back up to Backblaze for no extra cost (NAS normally cost more to back up to cloud services) Great video as ever.
Note that with Synology it depends on the RAID configuration you are in. If you have a RAID 1 configuration (2 drives, 1 drive mirrored on to another) and you wish to move to a RAID 10 configuration (2 drives mirrored on to 2 drives), you will have to backup all your data and then reload it on to the drives once their in a RAID 10 array. That being said, when it comes to adding more drive e.g. 3 drives mirrored on to 3 drives, if you stay in the RAID 10 setup, you will not have to go through this, but note, whilst it can be done, it's wise not to have an array spread across an expansion (i.e. DS923+ with DX517). Also we'd always suggest you implement a Hot Spare, this means if a drive ever fails, it will automatically start being mended by the Hot Spare, saving you from having to put a HDD in yourself, after realising a drive has failed, but note, a Hot Spare can only monitor and automatically mend 1 pool, so it's wise to have 1 hot spare per storage pool.
@@PremiumProductionsUKmost would not use raid 1 or 10 on a Synology drive as that’s working against its biggest strength. Most would use SHR which allows a single drive failure which is then hot swappable by you. If you need to increase the size you just add a larger drive, let it rebuild. Then add a second new larger drive and it will rebuild and increase there capacity. All without having to move data anywhere. Is that what you were referring to?
@@Myview72 SHR and SHR2 are great plug and play ‘RAID’ solutions but they’re not our preference where you have 4+ drives.
When you have 2 drives in SHR, you are effectively in a RAID 1 setup, as you’re mirroring your data.
When you then want to add an additional drive and have 3 drives, you will then be using 1 drive as parity; you’re basically in a RAID 5 setup with SHR when you have 3+ drives.
If you want to add an additional drive (4 drives now), you will then still only be losing 1 drive. If you want to move to SHR2, it’s easy and like you say, there’s no need to erase your data. Note that moving back to SHR, after deploying SHR2 would lead you to losing data though. You will then be in an effectively RAID 6 setup, with 2 drives being lost to parity. The benefit of SHR over RAID is that you can choose any size HDD, where as with RAID 5 and RAID 6 all your drives have to be the same size, and if they’re not, the additional space is lost.
We prefer RAID 10 because it doesn’t have parity, all data is mirrored, so it offers better performance than SHR2 and lower risk of concurrent disk failures, due to how mirrors work vs how parity works, thus the lifespan of a RAID 10 setup vs SHR/SHR2 is generally longer and also remirroring is faster than recalculating parity, especially on larger drives, not only that, but the task of mending a drive using parity is more likely to destroy the drive vs mirroring it, due to the workload.
So our setup solution is always RAID 10 with a Hot Spare, that way, if one of the drives were to break whilst no one was going to be on site for a few days, the rebuild would start taking place immediately, then when you’re back on site, you can remove the broken HDD and replace it with a new Hot Spare HDD.
@@PremiumProductionsUK can you add drives with RAID 10 on the fly, or if you have a failure, then? My issue is that I can not justify replacing all the drives when I need to increase the size. Thats why I have used SHR2 previously. I thought RAID 10 meant you had to all drives the same, is that not the case?
@@Myview72 In Raid 10 the smallest pair dictates the size of all the other pairs, this is why we would always suggest to get the highest TB you can justify at purchase.
Thank you
A little off topic because I'm not a film maker but I'm trying to figure out whether I really need a NAS for my home theater. I'm thinking maybe a PC with several hard disc connected via USB would work just fine to stream 4K video for the home theater. Would there really be an advantage to using a NAS for this application? Thanks, mk.
A NAS is already a plug and play 'computer' - it just doesn't ship with a monitor. Most ship with Plex already installed. Plex is a video streaming app optimized for fast reads and all the video codec support you'll need... a world of difference. So, attach NAS, navigate to your NAS console (I use Synology, so this is DSM), install Plex, create a folder (on the NAS) - drop all your vids into it and let Plex do the rest. When you navigate to it for your home theatre, the interface will let you pick and play videos a la the Netflix interface.
I am deleting files from my NAS to increase space but I did not see any change....what am I doing wrong?
there is a recycle bin
@@Alapaap within the NAS app?
@@HJBProductionsLLC if you can access the folders there should be one. Either from file explorer or on the online access.
But better anyway get a backup for any NAS😅 This summer my NAS (QNAP) just burned up, and after few month the next one had issues with raid and it was really really hard to get to my files. It all almost never happends, but never say never😅 After this, I have NAS, backup NAS which makes copies from the main one every night and bunch of SDs with not edited weddings🙈
Yup gotta have backups!!
I'm still researching this but it appears there's a high fail rate at rebuilding data when using the RAID 5 configuration if your drive is not an enterprise version and you are using a harddrive with high storage like 16TB. Would love to know if anyone here has figured out a best practice when trying to max out TB but have a good rebuild rate in RAID 5.
You should look the Level1Tech videos why the 1980th technology of RAID shouldn't be used anymore. And yes RAID 5 with more then 4TB drives is madness and not advised by any storage producer since at least 2010. It's just mathematical proven from the drive specs that there will be a bit error during rebuilding. And thats enough to crash all of it.
@@llothar68 thanks for the recommendation, definitely want to figure out what’s best!
Great video
About 8 years ago I went with a similar product, a DROBO B800fs. It was just so slow with backing up over Ethernet (only option), taking days, and already the driver software is now legacy. No wonder used ones sell for cheap on eBay now. I still have all eight of the 3TB drives that could likely work on a QNAP, but still pretty spooked about my first NAS experience.
you can get 10GbE now which imo is a must for doing this
I bought the Drobo 5D (not nas) and even bought a card for the cache memory slot. It was pretty quick for what I needed it for. Then the actual Drobo died after only 2 years and wouldn't read the drives. Went to look to replace it and come to find out the company declared bankruptcy last year after two years of every product on the site saying out of stock. I now have a heavy brick and 4 TB of forever lost data (my fault for not having a backup). Drobo was a terrible product.
NASs are actually pretty easy to setup and configure. if you can justify the cost grab a QNAP or Synology. they're pretty much plug and play and they make everything pretty simple to setup. if you have the option try to get something that can do thunderbolt (if your computer supports it) as that's one of the more easy connection methods for it. otherwise look into 2.5gbe or 10gbe. good luck!
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@@AIPTutorials I had the same Drobo. my ex now uses it. I just have an OS NVME Drive , and two other 2 TB NVME for active projects I’m working on and back up to two internal inexpensive 16 TB spinning Drives for archives. Each year I get new archive drives and leave one of last year’s large hard drive in case I need to access for clients.
I have really been looking hard lately at a NAS. Far less expensive than tons of external drives with faster access. I really am torn between QNAP and Synology. Great teaser video.
I have been hacked twice while using a qnap server :/ make sure to setup a vpn if you use qnap there protection from ransomware attacks is pretty garbage!
@@jakeleuzzi3083 That is a good point and seems a good use of Nord VPN.
@@MindfulGrinds No. You need to set up VPN to your NAS location, NordVPN will not help at all
@@tnapierala both Synology and QNAP support Nord VPN client connectivity.
@@MindfulGrinds I think we might be talking about 2 different things. Can you elaborate on that?
Love having a NAS but really got burned by QNAP when they knowingly sold machines with a faulty chip. They wouldn't do anything for their customers that this affected. I recommend a better company.
Yeah i got fked over by them too, would never buy a qnap again
QNAP is vulnerable to ransomware...My NAS (TS 251+) was encrypted with a ransomware called deadbolt asking for a large bitcoin deposit to release the key. QNAP is not my preferred method anymore. Keep that in mind !
Everybody alway talks about Storage space for backup. I have very large projects I need to edit in real time. My current FCPX project is sitting at 7TB, the project itself, the raw files are much greater. So talking about space just isn't enough.
I'd love a NAS, but $$$$. Going to try to make one from my old desktop PC. Better than nothing.
That's a great way to do things too! :)
Look into TrueNAS. I turned a Dell T330 into a home NAS with TrueNAS. Got 7x 2TB drives in RAID6, got 7.5TB usable drive space and 2 drive failure survival.
@@alhadjiril I happen to cross a UA-cam tutorial on how to do this and it very well may have been from true NAS. I'll have to go look at my saved links. Thanks for the suggestion!
Seriously, who has the $$$ for this stuff?!! It’s really geared toward professionals, not hobbyists.
@@RandumbTech check out the DIY options. If you have an old PC it might just make it financially possible.
I assume you have a 10 gig switch and 10 gig card in your computer?
Yup :)
I've been REALLY contemplating getting a NAS. Specifically looking at the Synology ones where you can put in the M2 drives for temp storage to speed up transfers.
You ale have this option here
Synology is the best...been using them for over a decade.
This looks great, but wow expensive compaired to Synology. Why would you buy this over Synology?
Are u still happy with QNAP or would u have preferred Synology DS1522+?
Hey Matt, have you lost weight? Great video I've just noticed you are looking great!
Dont open your qnap to online cloud.. I wouldnt recommend it. We got our QNAP nas hit with malware ransomware and it encrypted some of our files a while back. Dont do it Matt, just keep it off line.
Nicee!
Can you calirify on the "SSD like speeds" on the NAS? that doesn't make much sense to my knowledge. Even with a 10GB ethernet, you still using slow HDDs so the speed will be at most the same as that of any HDD
It depends on RAID configuration but in any case nowhere neer SSD speed. This is inaccurate
Correct. Agree with Tomasz here, as well. A NAS will rarely, if ever get you SSD speeds. SSD is basically a light speed HD (pure circuitry/no moving parts). As long as an HD has moving parts (read: spinning/spindle drives - even 7200 rpm) it'll never match SSD, unless your NAS has all SSD drives (doable, but very expensive). Even if you're directly attached via CAT6 ethernet cable or better (and most don't, preferring Wi-Fi access), local/USB attached SSD will still be faster. There are 'upper end' ethernet solutions, of course, but it somewhat defeats the purpose of a 'convenient' home-based cloud network if you have to tether.
Does anyone know if there’s a way to use something similar to a NAS but access that footage online? I’m constantly on the go, so having to access files easily is a big deal. but always carrying around a bunch of hard drives start to become a pain and i risk damaging them if i have to carry them around everywhere
That's the purpose of a NAS. They're essentially like a cloud based storage (think One Drive, Google Drive etc...) but at your home without any monthly subscriptions. With the proper setup, you'll be able to use your NAS like a cloud storage
Depends on how you want to access over the internet. Making a VPN on a NAS or on your home router is not too hard.
Then you can remotely log into your NAS or map network drives through SMB. But the speed is not so fast over the internet. Not fast enough to directly edit off the NAS. You can generate proxies so you can download the proxy and edit.
Davinci Resolve 18 makes proxy editing especially easy.
Another option is having your 4K or 8K media on a NAS. But put proxies on LucidLink. You can then use your preferred editing software as if the proxy were on your laptop even though it is actually on the LucidLink server.
Third option is to keep a PC where the NAS is and use Parsec to remotely control the PC to edit video off the NAS. But the image quality of Parsec is not perfect. For some, it is good enough.
@@eduardomedina961 oh awesome. i think my only concern would be if the transfer speeds would be fast enough if i was at a remote location, assuming im tethered to ethernet. i know google drive was insanely slow with even uploading a couple GBs of data, much less TBs
@@danielfrancis-lyon8735 ah gotcha. i think for the purpose of NAS, if i was editing at a remote location, i would be open to just having access to download that footage rather than trying to edit directly off of it
@@herokme0that will depend on your internet speeds.. adding an Ethernet cable won’t magically make your upload speeds faster when the bottleneck is someone else’s server. As for LAN an Ethernet connection will help but then the bottlenecks become the NIC or the HDD’s themselves. I’m still scratching my head as to why this dude spent the money on a 10G NIC for mechanical HDD’s. I doubt he will even saturate a gigabit with that setup lol.
synology seems so much cheapers, how is their reliability versus qnap?
I think it's QNAP that is known for security issues versus Synology. Reliability idk.
Don’t tell me what to do! Also, give me this 😤
Any no mention of the cost? 😂
I have a made by myself TRUENAS server :) this is very good cheap alternative to NAS which must be $$$ :)
i prefer cloud..its cheaper less noice, safer and ez to access. Unless I dont keep the secret of atlantis on that cloud..
Surely it is pronounced NaS as in NASA?
Snacks are 100% important
why do i keep hearing "tvs-h-EIGHT-74"
Very informative video however I have never heard "NAS" pronounced the way you pronounced it throughout the video.
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WTF this NAS is over $3.5k crazy for normal home use...
That's NAS...that's very NAS..
Why a NAS vs a regular RAID? All the reasons you gave can apply to a normal RAID drive. Probably the sponsorship lol
My qnap had a fault and is unusable/doesnt boot, after doing some research turns out its a common problem and they didnt do a recall so when i contacted them they wanted to charge me $300 for the repair because it was out of warranty, i even sent them this video to show them what problem it is ua-cam.com/video/c5k8FWe6u60/v-deo.html
I will never buy a qnap ever again.
Not NOS, short "a", like Nanny, NaaaaaaS.
Had one of these, QNAP had a major backend hack where literally thousands of home server's got infected with ransomware. I didn't realize my server was getting hacked until after more than 10TB of footage was encrypted (never recovered it, some of which was wedding footage btw). I will never trust a NAS again, only direct/local storage. I use OWC's local raid setups now, much better speeds & there not connected to the internet (Yes, my computer can still get hacked, but I keep it updated to the latest OS). So unless you're savvy with network protocols I'd say away from this product.
I’ve heard about that happening with QNAP devices. I think a nas is still a good choice as long as you either A: keep it up to date as often as possible, or B: have it setup in a way that it is only accessible on your local network and not accessible from the broader internet. I realize that will negate some of the usefulness of a nas but is a good safety net.
@@whoismatt You can also connect it to the broader internet and still be safe as long as the only way it is accessible is through a VPN (virtual private network). It's a little more annoying to connect to that way, but it keeps things safe. There are tons of videos on how to set that up, it's really not that bad.
A NAS should never be your only copy of your data. You should have been able to restore. The breach was bad though.
@@michaelmemory While I won't go into too much detail now before the announcement. VPN on QNAP will get easier to set up. We are working on something.
@@danielfrancis-lyon8735 Awesome! Looking forward to it
What a waste of time this video is. All 3 reasons can simply be achieved with other cheaper solutions. You did not cover the main reason that someone would like to invest in NAS and that is sharing capabilities. I particularly would like to know what is the speed transfer, if I would like to transfer 250GB RAW file wedding from UK to my editor in America. I do know it also depends on internet speed, but you can test with whatever you have and that would be more valuable info for me. All your talking sounds like one big advert and it's sad :(
How can HDDs offer SSD like speed? That's why you should never make your purchase decisions based on sponsored videos. Never coming back to this channel
But like.... $2500 :(
nases :))))))))))))))
I'm so mad, normally I like Matt. But this video just shows why you shouldn't watch youtube channels like his. Sure, all his fancy 10 thousand pieces of equipment that he gets for free is SUPER NICE and SUPPER CONVENIENT. It just isn't in the budget for all of us normies who aren't getting it for free or making money by you watching this video or clicking the links
Bah! There goes the rent money...
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stop calling it a noss. It's pronounced like ass
That’s how we pronounce is down in Texas