Pyromania is one of those records that the more you listen it, the more you discover elements you've never heard before or didn't realize you were hearing. For instance, in Foolin' the guitars and vocals are at A440 hz in the verses but then in the choruses they go about 1/4 step sharp and the tempo pushes about 1 bpm faster, pushing up the intensity just the slightest bit. It's unnoticeable if you're just enjoying the song, but it's there if you dissect it. Also the bass guitar rests (doesn't play) on the chunky D chords in the choruses. Stuff like that took me a long time to discover but wow, the most subtle things can be huge.
Also, the longer you listen to it the more you realize Pete Willis didn't get to finish it, so it completely sucks! Pete would have made that album so much better and so much heavier. Instead we got Phil. lol 😆 High and Dry compared to Pyromania is all you have to listen to and you'll see what's truly missing.... A great guitar player!
That’s interesting Matt. I’ve performed def leppard songs through the years. The recorded bass is sometimes much different than the live bass. Frustrating when you’re learning some songs.
@@frasiercraine1776 40-something years later we still got these guys like the one you're replying to who never grew past their pimply denim-vested teenager "metalhead" stage who think Pete made up all the "heaviness" of the band and that the band "got soft and went pop" or whatever since he got kicked out when it was clearly a change in musical direction that the entire band had already decided on instead of just making High 'n' Dry 4, 5, and 6, being known as an AC/DC derivative, and being stuck working factory jobs in Sheffield for the rest of their lives. Pete only has 4 songwriting credits on the entirety of the Pyromania record, and guess what? One of those few is Photograph, which is hands down the most "poppy" song on the album that I'm sure all the "true metalheads" hate because it's catchy. Even if Pete could've pulled himself together instead of continue dragging down the recording process for more than the 6 months he'd already been doing so, I sincerely doubt he would've made anything "heavier" when it's been well documented that Phil basically just came in and did solos and a few overdubs and that Pete's rhythm playing is already on every single track of the album.
Alright so I just wanted to confirm a few things… Pete did play rhythm guitar on every song on the album and plays one of the guitar solo’s on Billy’s Got A Gun. As for who played the most guitar on the record I lean more towards Pete for the simple fact that in the VH1 Classic Albums episode on Pyromania Joe & Pete confirmed that Pete was left to do double guitar duty while Steve was having a break for a few weeks in his hometown. It is also confirmed that Pete finished the double guitar duties and then once it came to the guitar solo’s Pete was just full of stress that one night he went out drinking and came in the next morning still a little buzzed from the night before and tried recording a solo for the song Stagefright and it just wasn’t happening… and that’s when he got fired from the band. So then once Phil came in all of the rhythm guitar tracks and Steve’s guitar solo’s and Pete’s guitar solo on Billy’s Got A Gun were already done so Phil only had 5 guitar solo’s to do (those solo’s being Rock Rock, Photograph, Stagefright, Foolin & Rock Of Ages) and he also recorded some backing vocals. Steve played the guitar solos on the 5 other tracks (those tracks being Too Late For Love, Die Hard The Hunter, Comin Under Fire, Action Not Words & Billy’s Got A Gun). And also Pete co-wrote 4 songs on the album (those songs being Photograph, Too Late For Love, Comin Under Fire & Billy’s Got A Gun). And another fact that most people don’t know is that Rick Allen & Rick Savage didn’t play on the album at all… Mutt Lange used a drum machine and a moog bass keyboard for the bass tracks as confirmed in the VH1 Classic Albums episode on Pyromania aswell.
Pete didn't play a single solo....not one. Number 2, Steve did most of the guitar work and writing for pyromania... It's well documented. 3rd rick savage dis in fact play bass on pyromania. You put out these posts without any references l.
Also Pete did guitar duty for 2 weeks. You think that's everything on the album. 2 weeks out of almost a year? Seriously. What you also failed to state is Steve played rhythm guitar as well. How. Can I telll? Hi listen to mirror mirror off the previous album which he wrote or wasted. Off the first. People seem to mix up the two of them and their playing. Further evidence is live .. anything out of the left speaker is Steve.
@@frasiercraine1776 I literally said that everything I said was all confirmed by Joe, Pete, Rick Savage & Rick Allen in the episode of VH1 Classic Albums on Pyromania. What more proof do you need than the people that actually recorded the album? And just cuz Steve is dead doesn’t mean he automatically wrote everything and played everything lol! you should read what I actually wrote before you reply to my comment… idiot.
Back in 83 I had this on cassette and believe it or not the very next year CD's came out and almost immediately I started replacing my cassettes. I went into the military in Aug 83 and one morning around 4AM I had to stand watch in the drill sergeant's office and on the wall there was a small tv tuned to MTV and I got to watch "Foolin" music video for the first time.
EVEN THOUGH, PETE WILLIS IS seen as being the dude in Def Leppard who had not made it big because of the fact that he had been too friendly with BOOZE. I know that Pete HAD been in a band after DEF LEPPARD, it had been a band called "Roadhouse". Pete had been a REALLY talented GUY. BUT, it seems like Pete had NOT been making sure that the bands that he had been in would be going on tour beyond Britain or Europe. And, I am REALLY thinking that HE had been actually preferring to stay in the UK or in Europe. I say that because Pete Willis MAY HAVE BEEN happy to just play music in his hometown of Sheffield England. The band Def Leppard is from Sheffield England too. When I had gone to the UK in 2001, I had been able to see the town "Sheffield" briefly. It was brief because we had to just go on and then through the main town. I would just LOVE to go to the UK again, and to see just how much that the real attractions are thrilling and full of intrigue.
Wow. Really cool interview. One of the all-time great rock and roll albums. One for the ages, and the one that vaulted Def Leppard into another Universe. Always fun to hear info and interviews from People who were there, and who know how it all went down. This is a fun vid.
I think Clark went into depression because the band he helped form turned into glam like what elliot and collen liked think marc bolan or sweet not at all what steve was into zeppelin and thin lizzy willis was into those heavier bands also the firing of willis he went into creative free fall and drank himself to death my opinion band creative differences really led to his demise my opinion on it anyway
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For sure, unfortunately you could have the most talented MFer to ever play but if he’s drunk or stoned all the time it’s not gonna work. Ultimately you can’t have it in a functioning band
Damn, this channel is so good, I can barely believe that it exists 🔥🔥🔥🤘. The stories behind these absolutely legendary works of art are just drifting away from us all in time, and FIB delivers the in depth story. Epic. Edit: Thanks to Craig Thomson, great job on Pyromania; you guys shook up the world 👊
@@frasiercraine1776 Pete did a small solo on Billy's Got a Gun, you clearly wern't there, you know nothing. There is also a difference in writing solo's and playing solo's.
@@no_stick_drummer2735 He was Mutt's puppet, he will have been honing that solo for months, if not years such was his determination to get in that band. A very ambitious individual who's afflicted with the dunning krugger effect, he can play but his songwriting skills are not up to Pete and Steve's standard.
So he says "I was doing all of the engineering work so I don't know why I only got a assistant engineer credit". But then he says "Well I was only there for about a month". What?? There's a pretty good sized bunch of months and months where an engineer would have been needed to record with during that time. So I would think an assistant credit would be appropriate. But hey I wasn't there. Then later he's talking about how there are "months and months needed for the vocal work and everything". But doesn't really say that HE was the engineer during those months. I don't get it. What's the hitch here?
Nothing makes much sense with the recording of Pyromania, history was re written to air brush Pete out of the band and therefor minimise his contibutions. I'm sure Craig remembers that Pete laid down nearly all of the backing tracks but he won't tell the truth. Rediculous excuses of sending Steve home to sober up and Pete on double guitar duties. Nah, Steve was there, he just wasn't wanted by Mutt to do it, he wanted Pete, and Pete did them, about 90% of the guitars. Honestly the group are all just a bunch of liars along with everyone else on the payroll. There were also 2 studios used, Parkgate and Battery.
i think when pete wills and steve clark did some shots of whiskey etc and plug in to some marshalls they were able to create majic. if they hadnt of been drinking and partying they wouldnt have played what they played. also i much prefer the real drums used to high n dry vs the simluted drums of pyro. the pyro drums dont sound natural to me
these interviews are absolute gold. recording one string at a time and making up chords ..... brilliant. marshall valvestates were shit..... hahahaha ... dammit thats what ive got.... lol. love these insights into our favourite albums. sir, your interview skills are unrivalled. 🤘
In my humble opinion Pyromania was Def Leppard s masterpiece I mean it should be in the top 10 of all time right with Thriller and Van Halen s 1984 Rock was flying high at that time before You Tube nowadays a million views is like your record turning gold . Sadly without Steve Clark they just were never the same imop. They conquered for a few years and still active today Rock !🤘🇨🇱
@@jamesbain4062 I like it too I really don't know what Van Halens masterpiece would be for me I would go with #1 Van Halen or the first album with Sammy but for me too Def Leppard s would be a close call between Pyromania or High and Dry
Idk how much was Pete and Steve but none of Def Leps albums have the fire High N Dry has, it should have been called Pyromania then High N Dry. They got it backward
In regards to the the "drum machine", if you search on youtube.....there is actually an isolated drum track of Photograph......I'm pretty darn sure all the drums are Simmons drums and Rick Allen just overdubbed the cymbals. I'm pretty sure that's how they did that record.
@@rickpalmer3128 I believe they tracked everything to the drum machine and recorded the live drums last. Apparently, a lot of producers of the era worked that way so everything was super tight.
Pete Willis was completely screwed over. They sent Steve Clarke away because he was drinking too much. So Pete had to do big Steve's and his own guitar parts. Then they fire him for drinking to much. So hypocritical
There may be more that leads to these decisions that we aren’t aware of. Personalities, band dynamics, work ethics, etc. By all accounts Steve was a kind, gracious soul. Perhaps Pete was a complete dick and/or a nasty drunk? Or perhaps one was a songwriting asset, the other wasn’t? It’s not always cut and dry.
If he was so screwed over then why did he get inducted into the Hall of Fame and still gets his royalties. Same old story for 40 years, just let it go. If you need to cream your pants to Pete Willis that badly, go listen to Roadhouse. It's annoying reading the same thing over and over again.
@@daveg4236 for the millionth time, Def Leppard doesn't hate Pete Willis, stop trying to start drama because your butt hurt that Def Leppard kicked him out, Jesus Christ it's like I'm arguing with children on this app, most likely this person is older than me. Stop the childish crap, it's annoying
Drum machine. I dont really know how to feel about that. Ive always known the leppard discs had them... Mutt's decision. Idk. Love the tracks tho. The thing i love is recording drums. Its the best thing in the world. I wonder if Mutt ever would have tried using loops?
@@matthewpaluch777 Pete has to be one of the best riff writers of all time. I have a trouble thinking of people who could compare, maybe George Lynch. What a loss for Def Lep.
@@themobseat mutt will take full control of everything if you let him, unless you're the type of band that will put him in his place like AC/DC or Foreigner.. yes drums on pyromania are a drum machine except for the cymbols. I think it was because of Rick being young and stupid and not wanting to work to the point where he gets mad and throws sticks across the studio or whatever, which I don't understand because mutt let Rick play real drums on high n dry, unless Def Leppard allowed mutt to have more control on pyromania
Great Interview as always and insightful comments from Craig. Great album and I always thought that Hysteria after that was crap and sounded so processed. Yes, it was a huge hit with the ladies but to me, it was a dud.
High 'N Dry and Pyromania are my favorite Def Leppard albums by far. I lost interest in them when Hysteria came out as they became to "pop" for my taste.
If Mutt ruined them then why did he produce high n dry? It was the band's decision, hysteria and pyromania was what they were working towards the entire time. And they achieved it. They weren't just going to sit there and be comfortable making standard hard rock albums that sold 500 copies each or whatever. They wanted to be bigger.
I was a super big huge big fan of there 1st 2 albums . Then they got rid of Peter. Put out this album with Phil. They became SOFT. Soft rock. Really. The roots of the band was gone when Peter was kick out. They waited 3 orv4 years for Rick and his arm. Couldn't wait for Peter. Weather Peter is good with it today or not . He says he understands. When he looks back on it . But I don't know. I think we'd all be a little pissey . If you're high school mates. Waiting for one mate. Not the other. I never bought another album after this one. This album is the last one I listen to . Billy got a gun. Is the only song that's good enough. But the rest is soft. I call the classic rock station. The def leppard station. All day long. Never play anything from the 1st 2 albums.
@ Peter said . He was kick out cuz of his drinking. He own up to it like a man . On tv.. Trust me and you . You think that you want to kick out of big band like that . I do believe mutt lang knew it in the studio on the pyromania album. Nobody really wants to kick out of a band. Especially when it your high school mates. Peter was being professional.
Dude they had to become soft, everyone did. Aerosmith, Heart, Yes, Starship, fuck even Motley and Van Halen! MTV ruled the 80s, music changed to pop. It brought in the girls. And the girls brought the boys.
Pyromania is one of those records that the more you listen it, the more you discover elements you've never heard before or didn't realize you were hearing. For instance, in Foolin' the guitars and vocals are at A440 hz in the verses but then in the choruses they go about 1/4 step sharp and the tempo pushes about 1 bpm faster, pushing up the intensity just the slightest bit. It's unnoticeable if you're just enjoying the song, but it's there if you dissect it. Also the bass guitar rests (doesn't play) on the chunky D chords in the choruses. Stuff like that took me a long time to discover but wow, the most subtle things can be huge.
Sure, forty vocal tracks per song also help lol
Also, the longer you listen to it the more you realize Pete Willis didn't get to finish it, so it completely sucks! Pete would have made that album so much better and so much heavier. Instead we got Phil. lol 😆 High and Dry compared to Pyromania is all you have to listen to and you'll see what's truly missing.... A great guitar player!
That’s interesting Matt. I’ve performed def leppard songs through the years. The recorded bass is sometimes much different than the live bass. Frustrating when you’re learning some songs.
@@richardcurtis2693how so? He was barely able to come up with anything as it was. Steve had to do a lot of the work.
@@frasiercraine1776 40-something years later we still got these guys like the one you're replying to who never grew past their pimply denim-vested teenager "metalhead" stage who think Pete made up all the "heaviness" of the band and that the band "got soft and went pop" or whatever since he got kicked out when it was clearly a change in musical direction that the entire band had already decided on instead of just making High 'n' Dry 4, 5, and 6, being known as an AC/DC derivative, and being stuck working factory jobs in Sheffield for the rest of their lives.
Pete only has 4 songwriting credits on the entirety of the Pyromania record, and guess what? One of those few is Photograph, which is hands down the most "poppy" song on the album that I'm sure all the "true metalheads" hate because it's catchy.
Even if Pete could've pulled himself together instead of continue dragging down the recording process for more than the 6 months he'd already been doing so, I sincerely doubt he would've made anything "heavier" when it's been well documented that Phil basically just came in and did solos and a few overdubs and that Pete's rhythm playing is already on every single track of the album.
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A true gunslinger. RIP Steve Clark
If I was a pilot and this guy was the air traffic controller, I don’t think I’d make it
Alright so I just wanted to confirm a few things… Pete did play rhythm guitar on every song on the album and plays one of the guitar solo’s on Billy’s Got A Gun. As for who played the most guitar on the record I lean more towards Pete for the simple fact that in the VH1 Classic Albums episode on Pyromania Joe & Pete confirmed that Pete was left to do double guitar duty while Steve was having a break for a few weeks in his hometown. It is also confirmed that Pete finished the double guitar duties and then once it came to the guitar solo’s Pete was just full of stress that one night he went out drinking and came in the next morning still a little buzzed from the night before and tried recording a solo for the song Stagefright and it just wasn’t happening… and that’s when he got fired from the band. So then once Phil came in all of the rhythm guitar tracks and Steve’s guitar solo’s and Pete’s guitar solo on Billy’s Got A Gun were already done so Phil only had 5 guitar solo’s to do (those solo’s being Rock Rock, Photograph, Stagefright, Foolin & Rock Of Ages) and he also recorded some backing vocals. Steve played the guitar solos on the 5 other tracks (those tracks being Too Late For Love, Die Hard The Hunter, Comin Under Fire, Action Not Words & Billy’s Got A Gun). And also Pete co-wrote 4 songs on the album (those songs being Photograph, Too Late For Love, Comin Under Fire & Billy’s Got A Gun). And another fact that most people don’t know is that Rick Allen & Rick Savage didn’t play on the album at all… Mutt Lange used a drum machine and a moog bass keyboard for the bass tracks as confirmed in the VH1 Classic Albums episode on Pyromania aswell.
Pete didn't play a single solo....not one. Number 2, Steve did most of the guitar work and writing for pyromania... It's well documented. 3rd rick savage dis in fact play bass on pyromania. You put out these posts without any references l.
Also Pete did guitar duty for 2 weeks. You think that's everything on the album. 2 weeks out of almost a year? Seriously. What you also failed to state is Steve played rhythm guitar as well. How. Can I telll? Hi listen to mirror mirror off the previous album which he wrote or wasted. Off the first. People seem to mix up the two of them and their playing. Further evidence is live .. anything out of the left speaker is Steve.
@@frasiercraine1776 I literally said that everything I said was all confirmed by Joe, Pete, Rick Savage & Rick Allen in the episode of VH1 Classic Albums on Pyromania. What more proof do you need than the people that actually recorded the album? And just cuz Steve is dead doesn’t mean he automatically wrote everything and played everything lol! you should read what I actually wrote before you reply to my comment… idiot.
Dang - I just found this channel a month or so ago. These interviews are FANTASTIC. Well-researched, great questions. Keep up the great work!
Clinical precision on details,...Why dont you ask him...oh, you just did.
Unbelievable interview. It’s like Hit Parader and Circus Magazine from early 80s but only better.
Those Magazines rocked! Being a Guitar Player I used to love reading the Guitar Clinic section in Circus Magazine.
@@ligamentpull1 Hey Liga, how much have you made playing guitar? I bet I have made as much as you playing with my noodle.
@@kevinb3307 Quit a bit, You might need to work on your noodle!
@@ligamentpull1 lol
Circus magazine was the shizz back in the day.
Back in 83 I had this on cassette and believe it or not the very next year CD's came out and almost immediately I started replacing my cassettes. I went into the military in Aug 83 and one morning around 4AM I had to stand watch in the drill sergeant's office and on the wall there was a small tv tuned to MTV and I got to watch "Foolin" music video for the first time.
EVEN THOUGH, PETE WILLIS IS seen as being the dude in Def Leppard who had not made it big because of the fact that he had been too friendly with BOOZE. I know that Pete HAD been in a band after DEF LEPPARD, it had been a band called "Roadhouse". Pete had been a REALLY talented GUY. BUT, it seems like Pete had NOT been making sure that the bands that he had been in would be going on tour beyond Britain or Europe. And, I am REALLY thinking that HE had been actually preferring to stay in the UK or in Europe. I say that because Pete Willis MAY HAVE BEEN happy to just play music in his hometown of Sheffield England. The band Def Leppard is from Sheffield England too.
When I had gone to the UK in 2001, I had been able to see the town "Sheffield" briefly. It was brief because we had to just go on and then through the main town. I would just LOVE to go to the UK again, and to see just how much that the real attractions are thrilling and full of intrigue.
Wow. Really cool interview. One of the all-time great rock and roll albums. One for the ages, and the one that vaulted Def Leppard into another Universe. Always fun to hear info and interviews from People who were there, and who know how it all went down. This is a fun vid.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your comment.
@@fullinbloom You're welcome. Thx for the gracious reply. Just subbed you!
Learned from a new friend that Mutt used "white noise" to get that Langer Vocal Sound. Makes absolute sense.
Brilliant interview/interviewer thanks
Thanks for listening.
I think Clark went into depression because the band he helped form turned into glam like what elliot and collen liked think marc bolan or sweet not at all what steve was into zeppelin and thin lizzy willis was into those heavier bands also the firing of willis he went into creative free fall and drank himself to death my opinion band creative differences really led to his demise my opinion on it anyway
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Def Lep was my number one from the High n Dry days, awesome interview❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
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@@fullinbloom Ooooh I’m lov’in what your say’in!!! Can’t wait for more Def Lep!
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pete willis rules he's the best all the best def leppard material is from when pete willis was in the band.
I strongly agree to be honest with you. Pete willis and Steve created some unique riffs.
Agree totaly. The band was best when founder Pete Willis was in the band.
For sure, unfortunately you could have the most talented MFer to ever play but if he’s drunk or stoned all the time it’s not gonna work. Ultimately you can’t have it in a functioning band
It wasn't the best it was just to the heaviest, there's a difference
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Agreed. These interviews became priceless during the post Covid times. Better times for sure.
Damn, this channel is so good, I can barely believe that it exists 🔥🔥🔥🤘. The stories behind these absolutely legendary works of art are just drifting away from us all in time, and FIB delivers the in depth story. Epic.
Edit: Thanks to Craig Thomson, great job on Pyromania; you guys shook up the world 👊
Thanks for listening, Steven.
Love this interview. You're a great interviewer and seem to know all the people that we want to hear from!
All rhythm guitars were finished by the time Pete was sacked....even solos were everywhere by him. The solos were rerecord by Phil
Pete was too hammered to do solos, and that was the reason why I phil was called in the first place. He did stage fright in one take.
Pete did no solos whatsoever
@@frasiercraine1776 Pete did a small solo on Billy's Got a Gun, you clearly wern't there, you know nothing. There is also a difference in writing solo's and playing solo's.
@@no_stick_drummer2735 He was Mutt's puppet, he will have been honing that solo for months, if not years such was his determination to get in that band. A very ambitious individual who's afflicted with the dunning krugger effect, he can play but his songwriting skills are not up to Pete and Steve's standard.
Awesome interview--as usual!!! Thank you.
Old school High and Dry and back, didn’t care for the radio pop albums after that
Could anyone else understand him?
I feel like I missed out on a great interview! 🤣
(Yes, I'm American. Sorry.)
Jajajaja. He was surprised at we already know. You are the best prepared and knowledgeable interviewer in the game. Tremendous content.
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So he says "I was doing all of the engineering work so I don't know why I only got a assistant engineer credit". But then he says "Well I was only there for about a month". What?? There's a pretty good sized bunch of months and months where an engineer would have been needed to record with during that time. So I would think an assistant credit would be appropriate. But hey I wasn't there. Then later he's talking about how there are "months and months needed for the vocal work and everything". But doesn't really say that HE was the engineer during those months. I don't get it. What's the hitch here?
Nothing makes much sense with the recording of Pyromania, history was re written to air brush Pete out of the band and therefor minimise his contibutions. I'm sure Craig remembers that Pete laid down nearly all of the backing tracks but he won't tell the truth. Rediculous excuses of sending Steve home to sober up and Pete on double guitar duties. Nah, Steve was there, he just wasn't wanted by Mutt to do it, he wanted Pete, and Pete did them, about 90% of the guitars. Honestly the group are all just a bunch of liars along with everyone else on the payroll.
There were also 2 studios used, Parkgate and Battery.
i think when pete wills and steve clark did some shots of whiskey etc and plug in to some marshalls they were able to create majic. if they hadnt of been drinking and partying they wouldnt have played what they played. also i much prefer the real drums used to high n dry vs the simluted drums of pyro. the pyro drums dont sound natural to me
these interviews are absolute gold.
recording one string at a time and making up chords ..... brilliant.
marshall valvestates were shit..... hahahaha ... dammit thats what ive got.... lol.
love these insights into our favourite albums.
sir, your interview skills are unrivalled. 🤘
RIP Mike Shipley. 🙏
The high and dry album blows away pyromania!
I’m becoming a better hard rock historian because of your channel. Love it thank you!
What a find! I thought Mike Shipley (RIP) was the only engineer on Pyromania.
They lost their song writing mojo when Willis left, and even more when Steve died.
Damn, the audio is so hard to follow
This was excellent content !
In my humble opinion Pyromania was Def Leppard s masterpiece I mean it should be in the top 10 of all time right with Thriller and Van Halen s 1984 Rock was flying high at that time before You Tube nowadays a million views is like your record turning gold . Sadly without Steve Clark they just were never the same imop. They conquered for a few years and still active today Rock !🤘🇨🇱
I LIKE VAN HALEN'S 1984 BUT I WOULDN'T CALL IT VAN HALEN'S MASTERPIECE. JUST MY OPINION
@@jamesbain4062 I like it too I really don't know what Van Halens masterpiece would be for me I would go with #1 Van Halen or the first album with Sammy but for me too Def Leppard s would be a close call between Pyromania or High and Dry
Eddie Trunk take notice
Idk how much was Pete and Steve but none of Def Leps albums have the fire High N Dry has, it should have been called Pyromania then High N Dry. They got it backward
In regards to the the "drum machine", if you search on youtube.....there is actually an isolated drum track of Photograph......I'm pretty darn sure all the drums are Simmons drums and Rick Allen just overdubbed the cymbals. I'm pretty sure that's how they did that record.
A Fairlight drum machine was used for the snare, toms and bass drums.
Then prob same on hysteria too. For example, listen to the outro drum fill on Armageddon it……not possible with 1 arm.
@@acepaul407 so Rick allen did not sit behind a kit and generate those drum parts, correct?
@@rickpalmer3128 I believe they tracked everything to the drum machine and recorded the live drums last. Apparently, a lot of producers of the era worked that way so everything was super tight.
Imagine that. The alleged best mic on the planet didn't make the cut
Pete Willis was completely screwed over. They sent Steve Clarke away because he was drinking too much. So Pete had to do big Steve's and his own guitar parts. Then they fire him for drinking to much. So hypocritical
There may be more that leads to these decisions that we aren’t aware of. Personalities, band dynamics, work ethics, etc. By all accounts Steve was a kind, gracious soul. Perhaps Pete was a complete dick and/or a nasty drunk? Or perhaps one was a songwriting asset, the other wasn’t? It’s not always cut and dry.
Pete was an asshole when he was drunk.
If he was so screwed over then why did he get inducted into the Hall of Fame and still gets his royalties. Same old story for 40 years, just let it go. If you need to cream your pants to Pete Willis that badly, go listen to Roadhouse. It's annoying reading the same thing over and over again.
@@no_stick_drummer2735 no choice on the Royalties. And....rolling stone put Pete in RRHOF
@@daveg4236 for the millionth time, Def Leppard doesn't hate Pete Willis, stop trying to start drama because your butt hurt that Def Leppard kicked him out, Jesus Christ it's like I'm arguing with children on this app, most likely this person is older than me. Stop the childish crap, it's annoying
Right on
Drum machine. I dont really know how to feel about that. Ive always known the leppard discs had them... Mutt's decision. Idk. Love the tracks tho. The thing i love is recording drums. Its the best thing in the world. I wonder if Mutt ever would have tried using loops?
in 83 this was the only way, no loops back then. The drums always sounded weird to me but at the time was considered futuristic
The cymbals were done live.
@@Slingudwig True indeed
The bestiario récord Ever
Pete Willis was key to early Def Leppard, they wrote all their best music with him. Steve Clark was class, the complete opposite to Phil Collen. RIP
I saw Pete with DL opening for the Scorpions during their Animal Magnetism tour. Very underrated as a guitarist!
@@matthewpaluch777 Pete has to be one of the best riff writers of all time. I have a trouble thinking of people who could compare, maybe George Lynch. What a loss for Def Lep.
@@jimshomestudioyou got Pete mixed up with Steve.
Phil Collins is okay, he was and is no where near Pete Willis' s level.
The drums on the song Photograph are a drum machine. The timing is perfect and it sounds like a drum machine
I thought the kick and snare were from the drum machine, but the rest were real?
@@themobseat mutt will take full control of everything if you let him, unless you're the type of band that will put him in his place like AC/DC or Foreigner.. yes drums on pyromania are a drum machine except for the cymbols. I think it was because of Rick being young and stupid and not wanting to work to the point where he gets mad and throws sticks across the studio or whatever, which I don't understand because mutt let Rick play real drums on high n dry, unless Def Leppard allowed mutt to have more control on pyromania
@@no_stick_drummer2735 pyro and hystera sound like shit as a result of mutt in my opinion but I'm a metal head
I just noticed. You are at 6.66 K subs. 🤘
It makes doing an Abigail interview yesterday a bizarre coincidence.
Difficult to understand with his accent. Remember getting this album in 1983 when I was 12
Me too!
Sheeze, I would love to hear these mixes he’s talking about. Does it get any better than Pyromania?
agreed...but, yes, yes it does.... Its called High N' Dry
Is this guy been speaking English?
Great Interview as always and insightful comments from Craig.
Great album and I always thought that Hysteria after that was crap and sounded so processed. Yes, it was a huge hit with the ladies but to me, it was a dud.
High 'N Dry and Pyromania are my favorite Def Leppard albums by far. I lost interest in them when Hysteria came out as they became to "pop" for my taste.
absolutely -- how they could go from great rock to total pop so quickly was crazy. They could have been legends if they stuck to rock and roll.
Anybody understand a God damn thing this kid is saying?
Not Irish enough
That guy is Scottish.
Scottish. A great accent - Grrrrreat! ❤️
@@StevenBrown-me My Jesus & Mary Chain radar was off but it's still TECHNICALLY "not Irish enough".....equally entertaining though
Compared to the first two albums this one and all after were crap just awful. Mutt made them millionaires but ruined the band for what it was.
If Mutt ruined them then why did he produce high n dry? It was the band's decision, hysteria and pyromania was what they were working towards the entire time. And they achieved it. They weren't just going to sit there and be comfortable making standard hard rock albums that sold 500 copies each or whatever. They wanted to be bigger.
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Doesn't anything mean anything, anymore?
I was a super big huge big fan of there 1st 2 albums . Then they got rid of Peter. Put out this album with Phil. They became SOFT. Soft rock. Really. The roots of the band was gone when Peter was kick out. They waited 3 orv4 years for Rick and his arm. Couldn't wait for Peter. Weather Peter is good with it today or not . He says he understands. When he looks back on it . But I don't know. I think we'd all be a little pissey . If you're high school mates. Waiting for one mate. Not the other. I never bought another album after this one. This album is the last one I listen to . Billy got a gun. Is the only song that's good enough. But the rest is soft. I call the classic rock station. The def leppard station. All day long. Never play anything from the 1st 2 albums.
@ Peter said . He was kick out cuz of his drinking. He own up to it like a man . On tv.. Trust me and you . You think that you want to kick out of big band like that . I do believe mutt lang knew it in the studio on the pyromania album. Nobody really wants to kick out of a band. Especially when it your high school mates. Peter was being professional.
Dude they had to become soft, everyone did.
Aerosmith, Heart, Yes, Starship, fuck even Motley and Van Halen!
MTV ruled the 80s, music changed to pop. It brought in the girls. And the girls brought the boys.
@@doctordetroit4339 you watch to much MTV.
I agree Scott.
well said Scott