Collisions: The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability

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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
  • Kennan Institute Advisory Council Chair Michael Kimmage will discuss his new book on the war in Ukraine, Collisions: The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability. The book chronicles the long march to the 2022 full-scale invasion, starting in 2008 and covering developments in Ukraine, Europe, Russia and the United States. Kimmage will explore the origins of this war and will place this momentous and terrible event in historical context.

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  • @donaldflett1504
    @donaldflett1504 11 днів тому +19

    I am a 76 year old American and a life long Democrat. At minute 14:25 the Budapest Memorandum was mentioned but just in passing and I just don't understand why more emphasis is not put on this. Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in exchange for a security pledge from the US. Ukraine had the third or fourth largest nuclear arsenal in the world at the time; in my opinion, this was a REALLY big deal. Let's just think about that for a minute. It is like China voluntarily giving up nuclear weapons today and not attacking any of its neighbors for a minimum of 30 years. This kind of act makes the world SIGNIFICANTLY safer. In my opinion, when Russia invaded Crimea and the Donbas in 2014, the US had a sacred duty to come immediately to Ukraine's aid militarily and otherwise to push the Russians out. Obama, Trump, Biden and the American people have not honored that sacred military and diplomatic pledge. We Americans are morally required to go all in now in Ukraine, including especially soldiers as well as the needed equipment, supplies, etc. to push Russia out, provide a buffer or demilitarized zone and rebuild Ukraine

    • @jameskellogg83
      @jameskellogg83 11 днів тому +1

      You are correct.

    • @mikes989
      @mikes989 11 днів тому

      Nowhere in the "memorandum", that was only that, an "intention letter", says anithing about assurances of any kind. And the most interest in get those weapons out off tber were usa and uk, so those nuke wont had end somewhwre they didnt like, cause they knew the uncontrolled times ahead of the country and the incoming corrupti9n level. Also, those weapons were under control of the russian SR , they have yhe control, codes, etc.
      The same was what happened to the Tu22M bombers that remained in the country

    • @lt.hurwitz270
      @lt.hurwitz270 10 днів тому +1

      I’m a lifelong Dem as well and I agree with you.

    • @chip2373
      @chip2373 10 днів тому

      Interesting comment. Putin actually announced his intentions in 2003. Add George W. to your list of presidents that screwed up. The presidents you mentioned have been some of the worst in our nation's history. It appears 2024, unless there is a miracle, will be another step down in American competence and leadership regardless of who wins. One thing we have to take into context is that the growing democracy and less corrupt government we see today in Kiev, was not true many years ago. Our MO of pouring cash into corrupt governments such as Cuba, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, the PLO, does not have a good track record. Also, was not Russia a guarantor of Ukraine's security? There is plenty of blame for the situation in Ukraine. Perhaps had we not spent so much time, blood, and treasure in failed efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, we might have been better positioned mentally and financially to insert ourselves into Ukraine. You can probably rightfully so lay the current Ukraine debacle at the feet of of George W. Bush, his brilliant secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld, and heartless VP Dick Cheney.

    • @sparkyfromel
      @sparkyfromel 10 днів тому +1

      You misconstrue what an international treaty is , the wording and subject are not what matter
      signing an agreement demonstrate a positive attitude with the others signatories
      if one of the signatories feel such positive attitude doesn't apply anymore the treaty is discarded as a sad memory of what could have been
      this a well established practice of all countries including the US government
      P.S..... the guy is good , lot of deep understanding

  • @atlanticist4763
    @atlanticist4763 9 днів тому +2

    The host is an absolute fool. His smirk as he finished his question regarding Russian delusion about defeating Ukraine was a particularly ironic moment. Very funny when Kimmage basically answered, "what delusion ? Putin is winning."

  • @pe.be.6975
    @pe.be.6975 9 днів тому +1

    Imo there is a 4th axis which is the US dollar.

  • @michaelreed5684
    @michaelreed5684 12 днів тому +7

    If you start off with the premise that Ukraine is winning the whole discussion is pointless. Ukraine has lost 20% of its territory but Winning ! If any country that loses that much land they are my friend by definition not winning

  • @artelagro
    @artelagro 7 днів тому

    I expected this 'conversation' to be a wee bittie biased. Sorry, no book sale here.

  • @martinalladin8981
    @martinalladin8981 4 дні тому

    With respect sir your timeline is a little off the two states that entered NATO accession the entire process happened under the Biden Administration Trump was gone in 2020 they began accession talks in 2022 36:50 36:50

  • @deriznohappehquite
    @deriznohappehquite 10 днів тому +4

    Russian bot presence is strong in these comments.

  • @vonries
    @vonries 12 днів тому +3

    For me it's all about the children. Never forget all of the Russians who abused children and their families in Ukraine. From the mass graves (in Izium) to the stolen children. Now if Ukrainian parents don't become Russian citizens and go to flight against their brothers and cousins Russia will take their newborn children at birth.
    Speaking of Izium. What did those 414 people see? The Russians thought it was better to murder them and bury them all in a mass grave instead of letting them testify. Whatever they saw must have been truly horrific. At minimum I'm guessing rape and torture.
    If Russia want's to sign😅 a treaty they must first prove they will stand by one. If Russia wants to negotiate, start with your original written agreement. Pull back all of their troops back behind their original boarder and then you can start negotiations. If they don't show they will honor the original agreement how can you expect them to honor any further agreements.
    It's our war to lose. Russia can NOT win. Unless we choose to not support Ukraine of course. It is on us in the global West to pick the world we want to live in. Choose wisely. Thanks.
    Glory to Ukraine. God Bless Ukraine and her people. 🇺🇦🇺🇸

    • @mikes989
      @mikes989 11 днів тому +1

      Izium were civilian killed in the crossfire. You think the russian had made a video report for the TV about the cementery, marked the graves with names and crosses if not?
      As well as in the north of kiev. Wonder why most dead were by artillery, included flechette amunittion, while the russian were there? were they firing themselves?

    • @MrArfelio
      @MrArfelio 9 днів тому

      @@mikes989 ти піздиш русский дружок

    • @wolfbirk8295
      @wolfbirk8295 9 днів тому

      I think its nonsense ...,?

  • @terrymoore861
    @terrymoore861 9 днів тому +2

    For the real reason search and watch 'US senator says Ukraine is 'gold mine' with $12 trillion of minerals West 'can't afford to lose'

  • @philnewton3096
    @philnewton3096 2 дні тому

    Rusify ?.USify ?.delusify.?😅

  • @atlanticist4763
    @atlanticist4763 9 днів тому +1

    If you think this is a senseless war to Russia, I now know you are a terrible historian and you have therefore written a terrible book.

  • @jpiccone1
    @jpiccone1 2 дні тому

    Why is every phrase uttered by the host a question? It's intensely annoying.

  • @dimitrimorakhovski5287
    @dimitrimorakhovski5287 16 днів тому +12

    It's a rare occasion when questions are better than answers. Writing a book dismissing the role of NATO enlargement in this conflict is not a question of a particular view. It's just one of major reasons why the war started. The possibility of reparations is ridiculous as well. It means russian capitulation. It's just not going to happen. There many small misunderstandings as well.

    • @andyreznick
      @andyreznick 10 днів тому

      Respectfully disagree. Russia never had any intention of living up to the Budapest or Minsk agreements without control over the Ukrainian government. NATO enlargement is a convenient scapegoat for the ambitions of an empire to dominate its neighbors. Russia basically just throws excuses for imperial expansion against the wall until it finds one that sticks. It is changing international borders through military force, breaking the UN Charter, which is the issue they work hard to get us to forget.

    • @jpiccone1
      @jpiccone1 2 дні тому

      No it's not. It's a justification, but not a reason. NATO hasn't meaningfully expanses in 20 years. The war is entirely because Putin failed to install puppet regime in 2014. It's ridiculous to blame the invasion of a country on the expansion of a defensive alliance that had already roundly rejected Ukraine as a member.

  • @atlanticist4763
    @atlanticist4763 9 днів тому +2

    "They don't seem to interconnect all that much".
    LOL - here's an academic who has as much interest in Hunter Biden and his bizarre role on the Board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company as the average Washington Post journalist.

  • @user-ln9yc8sd7x
    @user-ln9yc8sd7x 15 днів тому +1

    Did you forget those infamous 14 points? Or see them as obsolete? Then why do the current US admin is so nasty in following that suit? Isn't it the time to grasp those real and still important origins of back then and now and present?

  • @laurie9557
    @laurie9557 7 днів тому

    Please avoid the passive voice. Obama chose not to honor the Budapest Memorandem. (I now regret having voted for him.)

  • @momchilyordanov8190
    @momchilyordanov8190 16 днів тому +2

    They talk a lot about 'starting point'. I believe it is not a point. It is a condition of the mind. The problem is, that the Russian society as a whole has that backward and toxic notion - on one hand they are not some regular people, but a special nation, different from any other, that must live in a great country, because this is their destiny. And on the other hand, that the greatness of your country is achieved by dominating and subduing by force your neighbor or perceived adversary. When this is the world view of significant percentage of the population, it's only a matter of time for a Putin type to appear. Especially having in mind, that many Russian people still believe, that concentrating power in the hands of an all-dominant powerful figure is a viable way to govern a country.

    • @richiesd1
      @richiesd1 16 днів тому +1

      All countries have hegemonic ambitions and the desire for their sphere of influence, if they have the ability to so so.

    • @niklasnorberg5071
      @niklasnorberg5071 16 днів тому +7

      Sounds more like you are discribing USA, wasn't it them who desided that the whole Western hemisphare was their zone of interest.😂😂 And since then they moved on to the entire world.

    • @himiehonor1196
      @himiehonor1196 14 днів тому +3

      Following your logic means Russia is trying to become the USA. Exceptional and special status in the world, if you disagree, buy yourself a mirror 👍🏽

    • @Sunday314
      @Sunday314 13 днів тому +1

      @@niklasnorberg5071 👍I completely agree!

    • @mikes989
      @mikes989 11 днів тому

      Im sorry, but you just made a photography of USA

  • @kalipotmeng
    @kalipotmeng День тому

    This discussion has no fact, is plainly a Putin bashing session . No value. LoL

  • @richiesd1
    @richiesd1 17 днів тому +12

    Boring western biased POV. John Mearsheimer’s analysis is much more direct and truthful.

    • @DwynAgGaire
      @DwynAgGaire 17 днів тому +4

      I disagree and am less inclined these days to jump on any attractive looking bandwagon. Everyones narrative is going to be different. The trick to a more productive future is having leaders that are willing to sit down and come to terms on a shared reality given these differences. Watch a lot of this type of think tank/security forum/policy making content and you start to see that these are all by and large good people trying to chart a course through uncertainty. The good ones are open to discourse and are less fanatical with respect to ideology.

    • @richiesd1
      @richiesd1 17 днів тому +1

      @@DwynAgGaire good people causing wars is tragic. It would have been better to negotiate with Russia prior to the start of the war. The West was convinced that we could quickly beat Russia and once and for all, knock Russia off the ranks of the great powers. Tragic.

    • @richiesd1
      @richiesd1 17 днів тому

      ⁠@@DwynAgGaire. Tragic good intentions. The west thought we could, once and for all, beat Russia and knock them out of the ranks of the great powers. So now, we have the tragic situation in Ukraine. The smart people at the think thanks could not design an alternative?

    • @DwynAgGaire
      @DwynAgGaire 17 днів тому

      @@richiesd1 It appears that the US executive has been lead by the nose by a sect of the policy making intelligentsia aka the neocons, who have a very limited view of reality.

    • @eugene_dudnyk
      @eugene_dudnyk 16 днів тому

      Mearsheimer sells you putin’s blackmailing, it can hardly be called “analysis”.

  • @joshuapaul2022
    @joshuapaul2022 16 днів тому +7

    At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine. Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.

    • @user-ln9yc8sd7x
      @user-ln9yc8sd7x 15 днів тому +2

      that's correct, huilo (also known as putin) is still alive ((

    • @mikes989
      @mikes989 11 днів тому

      The safe conduit transmited by the former Israeli Prime Minister to Zele back in 2022 expired some weeks ago...

    • @user-ln9yc8sd7x
      @user-ln9yc8sd7x 10 днів тому

      @@InvictusVirtus333 they just suck...all the three day...oh wait there are actually years...)))

    • @user-ln9yc8sd7x
      @user-ln9yc8sd7x 10 днів тому

      @@InvictusVirtus333 write more it's right as it goes))

  • @gerryboric6777
    @gerryboric6777 13 днів тому +1

    Yankee Doodle always loses

  • @Kavala76
    @Kavala76 8 днів тому

    I managed 9 minutes before I gave up.
    Disappointingly unenlightening and a total waste of time.

  • @alexanderthegreat7916yy
    @alexanderthegreat7916yy 6 днів тому

    Bunch of crap