Estonia: A new life for an old Soviet nuclear secret | Focus on Europe
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The town of Sillamäe was a secret site of the Soviet nuclear industry. Now it is awakening from its slumber-and searching for a new purpose.
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People supporting the Soviet Union in Estonia should be banished
Well, no! Usually they are old people and you can understand them! Soviet Union was their youth and that is exactly what they are nostalgic about! Young people supporting modern day Putinistan is a totally different question! They think that Estonia is a wonderful place but there are too many Estonians... So the struggle will continue.
I agree as an estonian
@@GreatRetro Everyone I have met hated Soviet Union from their hearts ( mostly people who lived under soviet regime hated it). If they are supporting the Soviet Union they should be banished.
Estonia is a lovely country
The town is not Salami, it's Seallamayee
Don't bother, Dude! ^_^
siellamjäe ?
fun fact, the first soviet nuke was developed with the nuclear fuel from estonia
Sillamäe has a lot going for it. Being 2,5 hour drive from Tallinn and 2,5 hours from Saint-Petersburg. Port, fuel terminal, 14 track Rail station, massive truck stop, warehouseing. This video makes it look like its in a horrible way. Atleast there was jobs in the soviet time, ok.
As known from Bald's video :-)
Those old folks are just exactly like the boomers here in the US.
Living in the past, holding on to a non-existent world, stalling progress.
In countries that allows multi party system, not USA, that generations diferences are directed to vote in different parties.
In USA you dont see that common pattern, because if you dont vote in the same 2 main parties, the vote will be wasted, because its a "the winner takes all seats" system.
kto inny niszczy świat . rusz głową....od wieków niszczy i rządzi. Starzy i młodzi to ich ofiary ..
@Ann-Go To My ChanneI! L!VE NOW Yeah most people don't value the time spent under Soviet rule. Very much so because of how far Estonia has come after the fall of the union, in only 30 years, we have managed to catch up with the digital age and even be on the forefront in some cases. Pretty sure that wouldn't have happened if we hadn't have gone independent.
We're gonna be just like them when we grow old! ^_^ We gonna go around and nostalgiese about the 80s, 90s and 2000s ^_^
they are still russian decendants if they are born in russia and live in estonia.
Although Sillamäe was a closed town, some people still took a risk to go there because the shops had a better choice of goods in such closed towns. The trick was not to get caught. One just needed to act normally. Although it was a closed town, it did not mean that it was surrounded by a fence or there was some gate. My mom did it several times. My aunt told me it was also possible to go there with a local resident. She also said that when she was young, she had a friend who told her about this town and she did not believe her because it was not shown on any of the maps. Crazy thing is that my aunt grew up maybe 60-70km from Sillamäe.
"What would that have meant for the fate of the soviet union?" Well, it couldn't have made it any worse. And I bet Estonia doesn't value its time spent under Russia
Estonia została wcielona na siłę przez ZSRR ..Stalin na zwykłej kartce ustalił granice
The soviets killed them and oppressed their culture and had their own lebensraum in the baltics, thank god that Estonia and the baltic countries are free from a tyrannical and a despotic state.
@@tf2fan336 The baltics were being ruled by the russians, swedes, germans for hundreds of years. Im kind of surprised at how far these countries have come.
I've been and I really like this town. It's sad that it's a bit run down and it would be good to give it some new life. Part of the problem is that the east of Estonia has an image problem, which is obviously associated with the past. Ethnic Estonians have often told me that there is nothing interesting in places like Narva, Sillamäe etc. but I found it to be fascinating, and when I tell Russian Estonians i've been they are excited to know what I thought and have recommended places to visit next time I go to Ida-Virumaa. It's obviously a tricky subject due to the past, but regardless I think the sooner this divisive mentality is shaken away on both sides, the better.
Artur Rehi put Estonia on the map for me.
Yeah I new Estonia was there I just didn’t know anything about it till artur rehi popped up in my recommended one day “long live Estonia”
Arthur Rehi is Estonian Estonian and Life of Boris is Russian Estonian ^_^
He is such a clown I would rather you not know Estonia.
Who?
@@iHawke a UA-camr from there..I hadn't thought twice about the socioeconomics of that country until that dude started showing up in my feed.
My brother's wife is ethnic Estonian. What the Russians did to her family all the years was horrific (Siberian gulags etc). Estonia looks to be a bit more forgiving than other nations who have given their EX-USSR colonisers not even citizenship!
What communists did to ethnic Russians is 10x worse than what they did to Estonians. It is estimated that between 10 and 30 million Russians died because of communist crimes (this doesn't include WW2 victims). There were plenty of Estonian communists, including nearly all of the government officials of the Estonian Soviet Republic. Each of the 20 to 30 thousand Estonians who died because of communist occupation is a tragedy. But there's sadly no exclusivity to any single ethnic group. Keep your uninformed ethnic and racist hatred away from public
@@kurmakayev What exactly is so racist in OP's comment? It's quite possible, even probable, that the people prosecuting the wife's family were Russian and they most certainly were directed by the Russian, then Soviet, government. It's also true that some countries formerly occupied by the Soviet Union did not and even today do not give citizenship to the people settled there by the Soviet Union in an imperialist ploy or attempt at ethnic cleansing.
@@X3h0n If you're interested to seriously talk about highly complex and in many regards tragic history of post-communist countries, you're very welcome to share your real name and historical background (i.e., if you ever lived in any ex-communist country, how much do you know about current life in Estonia, etc.). Otherwise, let's now waste each other's time
@@X3h0n The Soviet government during the Soviet era sent the best Russian architects, engineers, builders, doctors, teachers and other specialists to the Union republics.
@@X3h0n All these former Soviet republics use facilities that were built by Russians. But they continue to insult the Russians.
I needed to see the bridge to realise they were saying Sillamäe🤦♀️🤦♀️
I dont think it belongs to EU, an odd narrative.. Thats something the Soviets use to say. Estonia is Estonian.
Nadezhda says much more words then DW translates
Russian language sounds like a person talking as while is trying to poop.
DW mistranslated some of her words
@@ricardosilva4940 says a person who probably speaks Spanish 😂. Russian is one of the most beautiful languages in the world.
over the years various news, estonia powerhouse of software
That's because of Russian language
@@suvairin why Russian language?
@@suvairin Estonians do not program anything in Russian. In fact most Estonians today don't even understand it.
@@BlackDaw1 I can see this girl speaks Russian as a native speaker she was born in Estonia though. And another thing is she is good at programming 😀
@@arbaz79 that's because Russian language gives most people great abilities to be good at programming.
The US had and still has places like this. Project Manhattan for example.
Bald and bankrupt made a video of this
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Sillamae is a very beautiful town. Everybody should visit it.
Then Russian get lost to Russia if you don’t like in Estonia! ! Plenty space in Russia!
Estonia doing FASCISM
facts
@@fuckfannyfiddlefart Oh, you are white washing fascism ^_^ If Estonia is fascist then fascism seem to be amazing and we should do more of it! ^_^
@@GreatRetro
I'm sure you will.
Have fun under Putin's rule!
@@fuckfannyfiddlefart sure, Estonia is the world’s first multi-party fascist democracy. Maybe try watching a bit less RT?
As if this was the only source of UO2 accessable to SSRS
I like Silamäe. Nice people there. 😊
Bald And Bankrupt!
didn't he loose all credibility when he erased his COVID experience from the internet?
@@edc1569 not sure. i wondered why he deleted that video. i still watch his videos
@@edc1569 Are you sure he erased it?
UA-cam is known to crack down hard on any videos mentioning covid. Maybe it was removed by YT
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Maybe if you'd been a bit nicer to the Soviets who tried to help you, then you wouldn't have your country destroyed so many times by Americans!
@Ernest Khalimov
That's funny because that's how American hegemonic imperialist aggression works!
Witch part of it - British, USSR or USA ?
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I want Estonia and Russia to be friends :(
Estonia wants to be a friend with Russia but Russia is still stuck in the past.
Trust me, most people here would like to be in atleast somewhat positive relationship with our neighbour russia, but currently the russian government is pretty autocratic and scary, true friendship can only come when the oligarchs in russia get their deserved jail cell
Never
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No FOSSIL fuel.
Rozkradli Estonię sami jeżeli obecnie tak wygląda. Jak Estonia została wcielona na siłę przez ZSRR to mają wolność. Niech się sami rządzą...Jak Estonia ma złoża naturalne to niech ich strzeże . Bo wkrótce może ich nie mieć
Estonia has such a bright future, if they can keep an emboldened Russia at bay.
Dobrze jest krzyczeć o wolności ale utrzymać wolność już gorzej
Muszą się opowiedzieć po stronie Rosji a nie Unii i Zachodu ...inaczej będzie żle. Zachód ma gdzieś Estonię .Zachód chce bliżej Rosji by mącić
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So, it means that some Samsung and AsusPro Werkstätte running on Water were in Estonia?
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Силламяе, а не Салями, ёпта.
What is this language their speaking Estonian or Russian?
People in the video speak mostly Russian. The majority of the population of Silamäe in the East Estonia are ethnic Russians.
@@PavelQuiteGood is that changing? Do the ethnic Russians speak Estonian, or do they get their services in Russian?
@@jonwelsh4354 Russians never cared to learn the language of the peoples they occupied.
@@jonwelsh4354 Most services in Estonia are available both in Estonian and Russian. Younger generations speak Estonian more fluently, so it is changing for the better.
@@jonwelsh4354 Estonia is about 18% ethnic Russian. The older generation of Estonians communicate with Russians in Russian, but the newer generations communicate between each other in Estonian or English. Most of the Russians who live in Estonia do not want to go to Russia, but they are proud of their Russian roots - as one should be I guess.
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Was it the dark past? It was definitely the time of prosperity I guess.
Anybody that sees soviet occupation as "time of prosperity" is probably senile or old-school party apparatchik ...
Nuclear energy bring more troubles than good❓
It depend on the country rules. In Soviet Union the environment and public health was not considered a priority, like in USA as well.
In France nuclear plants are less profitable than in USA... In France nuclear are safe, in USA it creates more troubles to the health of american down 90% citizens, because in USA the profit goal are culturally above public safety.
And because in USA the problem are the culture itself of blind profit no matter what, it becomes more safe to the americans citizens to ban nuclear power plants than to ask more safety rules over their industries.
Wybuch Elektrowni Atomowej w Czernobylu, w Japonii Fukishima i reszcie , mówi sam za siebie. Na Ukrainie zginęło 97 tys. ludzi podali oficjalnie że tylko 60 ...Ziemia napromieniowana na 1000 lat
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We need to stop FOSSIL fuels NOW
Most people take the fact that they have electricity for granted and when they have light and power in their houses etc they don't see good... but if something happens, they surely see bad!
*Is that girl 18, or is she 40.*
she's 30 according to the narrator
Slavic people seem to age quite fast.
@@kriskt4754 That is really insulting to them... They are Baltic, not Slavic...
@@ricardosilva4940 She is ethnic russian.
@@ricardosilva4940 Person in question is Russian. Culturally speaking, even the native Estonians are not Baltic despite the region name, but rather Finno-Ugric. Latvians and Lithuanians are Baltic. Genetically there has been a lot of mixing though
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So it seems that it was a happy past, and now it's a dark present.
I don't even need to make a response to this besides "Look at your name" lol
@@ffalsa I guess your name is Joe. So no need to response from your side.
A@@sebji9581 And you are what is called a troll.
@@JamesVaughan Why do you think so? Is it because my opinion is different from yours?
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As an American whenever I watch videos like this. I’ve always been confused as to why a lot of Americans today want communism that resembles the old Soviet Union. However I’ve always been fascinated with the history of the Soviet Union. I’ve watched numerous documentaries about it and almost married a Czech woman who grew up in former Czechoslovakia before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Capitalist societies have their problems, I’ll be the first to admit but I cannot understand why anyone would want to replace capitalism with communism in western free societies.
I think it's mostly (but not always) naivete. It's just classic counter-culture looking for greener grass, combined with a severe lack of knowledge about the history of communism failures.
No one wants communism. People in the US are asking for social democracy - please study the difference.
Just end the system of winner-takes-all the seats of your national parliament, and see new parties rising respecting truly what the americans truly want.
2 party system is a dictatorship. Not a democracy. Here, we have 12 parties voting and creating laws, and controlling the government anual budget, because he governments dont archive the 50% to be able to govern without breaks.
Lol...what? I live in one of the most liberal states in the union and no talk of that. You are getting some bad information somewhere buddy.
I think is is because of ENVY! Capitalist society is extremely envious society! If one guy becomes a millionaire and you don't then you are looked down upon like you are a looser... In USSR people was truly equal! Pore and measurable, but everybody was pore and measurable except the people in power... but they were so distant that nobody associate themselves with them and thus could not be compered against! People want more humanity and in he west they think that USSR was like that! And it was... in a way!
It's your video who make people cringe.
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@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE russian, i find russians like that offensive. Shes lived in estonia her whole life and hasnt bothered to even learn our language.
Oh dear Otmar, has nurse let you play on the computer again?
most estonian youth flee Estonia. Russians incl. Estonia will have 1/10 population it has now in 2040. there is no future in this country, especially with all the russophobia inside it. imagine all russians leaving estonia - it will be an economical crises.
Most Estonian youth are not fleeing. Many spend some years abroad but more often than not end up coming back to Estonia, just because of how much common sense there is here. The population might decrease a bit by 2040, but that is a common high income country problem with reduced birth rates.
What you call russophobia I'll call a severe lack of respect towards the native people of Estonia. The local Russians could achieve a lot of success if they would learn the Estonian language. There are free government lessons, but most local Russians don't want to learn. Those who learn have achieved greatness, like the long reigning mayor of Tallinn.
Imagining 25% of the residents of any country leaving points to an economic crisis. However this is a fantasy.
Estonia's population has been growing for the past five years. Also, majority of our immigrants are Estonians returning home. Estonians are the most optimistic people in the whole EU about their future. So get your facts straight.
@@BjornHolmstrom He is typical Kremlin fanboy. These guys dont know/want to know facts. Russian world is most important.
Myślisz ze Putin na to pozwoli ? . Zajmie najbogatsze tereny Estonii i osiedli tam Rosjan
They are backwards, they rejected socialism now they will become fascists or serfs!
Soviet Union is missed now
by who?
Even Putin himself thinks only fool people want Soviet Union back..
USSR is NOT missed! People miss their youth that happen to happen in the USSR!
Nobody misses the Soviet union
I’m really missing the toothache I used to have too.