Doctor Who Flux: War of the Sontarans - REVIEW
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"i'm taking a couple of them for tonight."
"THAT is a chilling line when you forget it's said by a Scottish potato" That was the best quote in the video 😂
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Genuinely one of Chibnall's best episodes. Like Resolution and Haunting of Villa Diodati it pits Thirteen against an iconic foe against her usual element without her companions, and these are probably the best Sontarans since Styre. The Sontaran plot was brilliantly balanced between the Doctor and Dan dealing with the Sontarans across two time zones and the wider Swarm arc.
That's like the worlds tallest dwarf.
You know I'm genuinely glad that these come out like right before the next episode, it helps refresh the previous one slightly
My favourite line in the episode.. 'I wanted to ride a Horse.' I mean c'mon that line laughed my ass off completely the second I heard Skaak say that, Also I like that neat callback to 'The Time Warrior' when Skaak mentions Linx.
The fact that Linx planting his stupid little flag in front of people too primitive to understand the significance of it is considered an important moment in Sontaran history is just so perfectly in character for them.
A thumbs up for the "she'd got a new jacket" smithers clip use alone.
It's a great episode. The production is spectacular. I hope folks who are seeing the value of this seasons storytelling will reapprase the earlier seasons that were unduly hated.
I hadn't been concerned about infinite regenerations so much as the Master's ability to singlehandedly destroy the Citadel and defeat the rest of the Time Lords seemingly without raising a sweat, when the combined might of all the Daleks couldn't do it. Why is nobody outraged about *that*?
Because he's the Master.
He's taken over Earth multiple times with ease despite the Daleks continuously failing to do. The Master knows the Citadel, he knows how to exploit things, he knows what weapons to use, and he's just smart in ways that the Daleks are not.
Plus, this current incarnation of the Master seems to be incredibly adept at manipulation and espionage, more so than usual. When you consider the state that Gallifrey was in last time we saw it, it would be extremely easy for the Master to exploit and infiltrate it again.
Also, we don't know how long it took the Master to destroy Gallifrey, or how many regenerations it took him. Come to think of it, was it ever confirmed he did it singlehandedly either?
Obviously, most of these questions should have been answered in Series 12, but I feel like Sacha Dhawan's performance really sold the fact that he destroyed Gallifrey
Exactly this. Brilliant point.
Yet during the Time War itself, the Master chose to hide because the Time Lords & Daleks themselves were so fearsome a foe. "Being smart" is not an explanation. Conquering Earth (the Master has only done this temporarily, I might add) is something that the Daleks have done twice (temporarily as well) and has been done by most alien invaders (any alien species capable enough to travel the cosmos to reach Earth is going to be advanced enough to defeat modern Earth), and being able to conquer Earth is not the same as the ability to destroy Gallifrey.@@tTaseric
@@dirrdevilThe Master ran when faced with a significant victory from the Dalek Emperor, and hid so the Time Lords wouldn't be able to drag him back into the war. He didn't run and hide because the Time Lords were so powerful and scary, at least not specifically.
But the Time Lords were different during the war. Far worse than what they were before or after. AND the Doctor did exile both Rassilon and the High Council before leaving the final time. The planet was not in a good state at all.
The reason I bring up Earth is that it shows the Master can be patient with his schemes, and is capable of coordinating chaos on a planetary scale.
The Master would (literally) have all the time in the universe to think of something.
Karvanista did mention that he was sent down to Earth by his people because he got the blame for the Sontarans getting through before the barrier had been sealed, expressing dismay at usually getting the blame for things. And I'm never going to complain at getting to see more of Karvanista! Brilliant episode, I'm absolutely loving Flux so far and I can't wait for toight's episode (which as of writing is less than an hour away!)
@@tobylerone4285 I loved it, I thought it was great!
@@tobylerone4285 I thought it was quite a unique, creative episode that answered some questions (some that are even asked within the same episode) while also presenting new and interesting questions that we'll definitely see explored in the next few episodes. We also got some interesting backstory for Vinder and met one of my favourite characters from this series: Bel, who is a part of that and I absolutely adored her character! It was very timey wimey but I really enjoyed that aspect, and on rewatch it wasn't as confusing as I thought since I noticed a lot of stuff I didn't notice before. I thought it was quite a clever episode! And it's got me more intrigued for what's to come - I'm not sure if it's my favourite episode overall, I'm not going to decide that until the series is over though I could see this sunday's episode being the best one so far... I'm very much enjoying Flux so far, it has me really intrigued and I am definitely wanting to find out more!
Evil Dan is starting to become one of my new favourite DW memes.
I really liked this one. Loved seeing the Sontarans after, what, thirteen years of them being a joke? I liked how they tried to bring attention to Mary Seacole and the Crimean War which I don’t think are really common knowledge among the general public outside of a few things. The acting was pretty good here, and the effects were decent, and, to cycle back, I loved the use of the Sontarans! I loved the one guy they caught and how he tried to big himself up with: “I was assaulted by a flying spherical object!” But then Seacole says, “Hit in the back by a cannonball.” And how another one just picked the time period because they wanted to ride a horse. I also think Seacole felt very honest. She didn’t feel like a caricature of a historical person, which, I think, many of these kinds of episodes do.
[Sontaran ships get exploded in the past]: Doctor: How dare you?
[Sontaran ships get exploded in the present]: Doctor: Good job, Dan!
There's a major difference in context there. Just like how it's not okay to kill Daleks in Series 1 but it's okay to kill Daleks in Series 2.
Best Jodie Whittaker story since Demons of The Punjab. The Sontaran Strategum/The Poison Sky is still my favourite Sontaran story through!
Flux has been very good so far. Looking forward to seeing how the rest goes and hopefully making a fine start to Jodie’s final episodes as The Doctor.
Series 11 had a clear standout episode with Demons of the Punjab. Series 12 had it with The Haunting of Villa Diodati. War of the Sontarans strikes me as this. It's quite possibly my favorite Sontaran story.
Absolutely loved this episode. It did the Sontarans justice after years of being treated as comic relief villains. 9/10. If the rest of the episodes are on the level of writing, directing and cinematography, Flux could become my favourite Jodie Whittaker story from her era.
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Excellent review of an (IMHO) excellent episode. I even liked Dan's "...Says the bloke with the floppy ears" line :)
Agreed. That got a chuckle out of me
This episode makes me really want a series like 2009 specials with jodie with no companions
This episode was awesome. Glad u made the hellraiser references to swarm and azure. That's why I fell in love with them in the first place such a great episode and so many cool moments. Loved it. Shaping up to be top tier when it comes to fave series in nu who
I like the design of the Sontaran costumes, It's like a mix between the designs from The Time Warrior and The Two Doctors.
The closed UA-cam captions said that Russia sontar is Santa which is just amazing
I REALLY hope this isn't an exception. I liked Series 11 and 12, but even I can't deny how far Demons of the Punjab and The Haunting of Villa Diodati were above them respectively. I hope the quality of this episode becomes the standard for the rest of the show, despite its flaws, rather than being that one-off amazing story that defines its entire series.
In my opinion, this episode is probably the single most 'Doctor Who' episode of the show ever broadcast. If you want a single episode to summarise what Doctor Who is, why it's important, and why people love it, you'll have War of the Sontarans.
As for the Sontaran's supposed incompetence in Liverpool, I think it was perfect.
They're a parody of Imperialism and how mega-military superpowers expand and invade countries without thought. It makes perfect sense that they'd be incompetent at actually occupying and policing their new land, because when is any expanding nation?
That snark about the Queen not being there is the best Jodie Doctor moment. Why can't she be more like this in other eps?
Completely agree with everything said here. I loved this episode more than any episode I've seen recently. After finishing it, I immediately knew Mr. TARDIS would feel the same way. It's almost flawless! Can't wait to see what the rest of this series brings us.
I was only familiar with Mary Seacole because a building at my old uni was named after her...so it's nice to shine a bigger spotlight on her.
One of the best Doctor Who episodes since RTD left in my view
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I love this story. Even though you pointed out a few plot holes, the pacing and villains are top notch. Dan is a breath of fresh air and the glitter siblings are perfect. I can't wait for the next part tonight.
I really liked this episode. Great plot, great performances across the board, excellent Sontaran costume work, a pleasantly tight script with some really nice dialogue.
If the people that continually dunk on 13 and Chibnall's era are trashing on this one then they really will never be satisfied.
I think Karvanista isn’t telling us the whole truth. Maybe he has some other, Division-related reason for being interested in Dan. (And maybe that’s the real reason he arrived early on Halloween?)
Now I want an Irish sontarn
YOU SCARED ME THERE-
I love That The Doctor Is By Herself In This Episode
Enjoyed this story for the most part, though as morbid as it would have been maybe having someone who helped Dan get into the Sontaran base be the ones executed and thus give Dan and the audience more of an emotional reaction.
Chibnall got the Sontarans down to a tee and the Doctor felt the most Doctor in terms of characterization for the entire plot.
after loving the halloween apocalypse i was really disapointed with how this episode resolved its cliffhanger. i hope tonights episode picks up immediately after WOTS
Jodie Whittaker is so good wtf
Enjoyed the ep a lot. Jamie Stone!!!
Great review. I wholeheartedly agree, this was an awesome episode.
Look forward to seeing Jonathan Watson of Only An Excuse and Two Doors Down on the convention circuit
Commander Skaak: Parlay *licks lips*
Pintel: Parlay? Down to the depths whatever man thought up "Parlay"!
Great video Mr. Tardis
Well you were right about Passenger. Kind of.
I can't be the only one who, on hearing the "Hellraiser" comment, got excited about the thought of a Doctor Who story written by Clive Barker. The Doctor vs. The Cenobites!!! 😁😁😁
Great video! Loved the New Sontarans! It’s no way close to being my favourite 13th Doctor era story however. I feel like this would be 100% better if it wasn’t part of a massive storyarc. The Yas scene are good but I was constantly aware that them moment are just to tie into a later story rather than the one where telling now.
DALEK
WATER OF MARS
HEAVEN SENT
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Along with Villa Diodati, this episode probably has the best characterisation of the 13th Doctor of the era. She’s authoritative, cunning, and witty. It’s odd how she’s more like the Doctor in scenes where her companions are absent, almost like she’s putting on a false persona around them. I guess that’s kind of what they were going for with the whole honesty arc with Yaz, but it wasn’t executed the greatest sadly
Karvanista: What is that useless weapon you got?
Dan: It's a wok!
Karvanista: You look ridiculous.
Dan: I always thought dogs liked walks.
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This was a killer episode and made me wish that the prior Chibnall seasons were like this. I like the call back to Lynx. I also like the way Dan was infiltrating the Sontaran's base. Reminded me of when Donna did and who can forget Donna's, "back of the neck" line. Karvanista, coming to save the day, was awesome. Really had me excited. Dan's father and mother combined, made me think of Wilfred Mott. These three Cenobitesque characters, have me wondering if they ever came across the celestials and the weeping angels. I can assume they have. Will this all have any connection to the timeless child storyline? It will be interesting to see. I really want the Master to come into this. I would love a faceoff between him and the head of this new trio, who apparently has confronted the Doctor before. I doubt the theories, that this could be the Master. The new Tardis team, well new with Dan, but it's so much better than the prior team, although Yaz is part of that prior, but her experience with the Doctor has really paid off and her character has improved. Dan really is taking to this, but I assume he's been the rough end of human life and is only transferring that experience over to the alien rough side. All in all, this was a great episode. With a cliffhanger no less, but I wish they didn't give bits to the next episodes, because it takes away from the cliffhanger. Final notes. That one Sontaran, the captured one, gave off Strax like vibes. Also, the use of Venusian Aikido, whenever it's reintroduced, is always a nice call back to the 3rd Doctor. Mary Seacole's color attire, had that fugitive Doctor vibe. The released image of her in front of the Tardis, is perfect. It fits her.
This is certainly the most intriguing series of the revival, I do enjoy the longer storylines
I could hardly agree with this review more! I loved the episode, in spite of its couple of narrative flaws. I thought the direction, effects, and especially the villains were all exceptional
The Sister Hood of Karn would make a good appearance to help the doctor with all this timey-wimey stuff.
Ranking of Sontaran stories:
7). The Invasion of Time (1978)
6). The Two Doctors (1985)
5). The Sontaran Stratagem (2008)
4). The Last Sontaran - SJA (2008)
3). War of the Sontarans (2021)
2). The Sontaran Experiment (1975)
1). The Time Warrior (1973)
Just as the universe ultimately survived the Flux, the reviews have survived the copyright strike. Nature is healing.
Easily the best Sontaran story since The Time Warrior... maybe the best ever? Time will tell how this story is remembered -- but if Flux sticks the landing I can see this going down as one of the best stories in one of the best SERIES of NuWho.
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19:07 Or Sharez-Jek in 'Caves of Androzani'.
It does seem odd she yells at The Army General for destroying a ship yet Dan destroys ships and she’s like “nice work want to help me find Yaz”
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One slight problem with the horses. A Sontaran Warrior weighs about half a tonne. Have to replace the damn thing's spine.
I do believe theres an explanation in episode for why the prisoner sontaran survived without refueling. Something about meditation or hibernation instead of a refuel? I dont know the exact line but I do think it makes sense
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I think this adds more weight to my theory that the BBC are FORCING dull contemporaneous human companions on the showrunners. Seacole and Karvinista are the companions Chibnall wanted to give the Thirteenth Doctor. Dan and Yaz are the BBC mandated ones.
That security guard is one of em
26:28 Wasn't she on Bezo's side the entire time?
Perfect review! I did like the floppy ears joke though... :-)
I have to say, I never noticed the mask off shot never actualy showed the helmet coming off. Therefore, no complaints from me.
picking a time beacuse you want to ride a horse pretty good reason
Probably isn’t relevant to bring up but I thought I’d mention it: I think in the first minute or 2 of his review of this episode, Bowlestrek made quite the racist comment regarding Mary Seacole. I think it was something about mentioning an R Word. There’s probably someone who can explain it better then I can.
god the sontarans stole the show
"Is finally arriving" Yeah, sadly thats an issue we've had for several of the 'modern' era Doctors. The writers don't seem to appreciate that it takes a fair old time for not only the actors but the writers to really get a handle on a new Doctor and settle in. Usually by the time go they enter their final season, and only then they appear to properly understand whats what and it shows. This was a vast improvement to the previous episode. Still cannot be arsed with Mr and Mrs Swarm I'm afraid in fact my heart sank when the story returned to them. The actor is good, but his dialog comes cross as Who villain by numbers and it bored me quite frankly and unlike your good self I thought the make up was very ho hum. Poor old 'Dog Boys' make up was awful. Looking like it belonged in an old time Crackerjack play rather then a modern tv show. I cringe every time I looked at him. lol
Oh and tonights episode I thought was bloody awful. lol Back to being a rushed mess again. The trailer for next week looks promising though.
Its a bit silly mentioning the Dan and parents age issue. Its a really dumb point - John Bishops age is irrelevant. The age of the actor is not necessarily the age of the character. Dan could be 40 years old for all we know
The whole Lupari thing doesn't make sense to me. Are they time travelers? Is it because Flux is messing with the universe. I assumed they're guarding 2023 Earth and its human inhabitants, and perhaps Kavenista (spelling?) is protecting Dan in this time period solely because Dan has traveled in time. My guess is there is no Lupari in the time period of the Crimean War. But Flux puts the whole thing into flux and it's a silly idea to have an entire alien race protect our human race anyways.
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4:32 I'm glad I'm not the only one who's getting tired of the sonic screwdriver being used for everything.
To be fair the 11th doctor whipped it out rather a few too many times
@@booradley8895 Not for scanning a body or determining time/space location as far as I remember. It was always for something technological (including the Flesh which had a technical element to it).
I didn’t really like this one. I found it equal parts dull and emotionally hollow.
But the aspect I want to focus on is this re-design and the toxic nostalgic mentality that I feel motivated it, which then feeds into this continual, imo baffling, praise Chibnall gets for his writing of established villains.
Now, perhaps my thoughts that the “Classic” design looked lame anyway, has influenced this interpretation, but the choice to go back to the Classic Who armour also drives home the superficial, pandering nature of a lot of Chibnall’s creative choices.
Case in point, the Sontarans.
The Sontarans originally were just a name given to us by a member of their species, Linx. A seemingly unremarkable one at that from his POV. The bigging up of him here feels like a very for-fans-only moment, which doesn’t make sense in-universe.
The lame design only worked in The Time Warrior’s because it was a joke that this advanced alien looked conspicuously like one of our European knights. It was justified there, further signalling that the Sontarans were never met to be this big of a deal in the first place.
Here, however, Chibnall fannishly treats the Sontarans with something boarding on respect, which is a gross misunderstanding of them and how they’ve been represented up to this point. But because memory is a fickle thing and nostalgia reigns supreme, fans are praising it to high heaven for shamelessly repeating the dated sensibilities of old teley rather than forging its own path. The same applies to his handling of other recognisable mainstays.
So yes, Chibnall can write a decent, bare bones facsimile of a Sontaran or the Daleks or the Master, but when it comes to doing new, interesting things with them, he shies away.
To not end on a completely negative note, the production, especially for being made during a pandemic, is insanely good and the variety is at least nice. I just wish the actual story being told so far was worth the effort clearly being put in to make to broadcast.
"And the ghost monument"........wha?! I mean I can understand someone liking that one but in the same bracket as Dalek and water and mars? Ok......😅😅.
Nice video otherwise😂😂.
The episode was descent shame I can't say the same thing about episode 3
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Was a good episode
All your reviews are a week behind
7:20 Sorry but I can't agree with you on that. That line feels like something Strax would say. You know, the joke individual of the species!
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You still deleting comments my big man?
I am sick and tired of nWho Doctors whining and moralising over things that the Classic Doctors did on a daily basis. Not only does it weaken the character it insults the superior predecessor series AGAIN.
To add on the ageism point, I don’t think it’s that bad in this case. They’re minor characters anyway, and I don’t begrudge them for not bothering to get two seventy year olds for about five minutes of screen time during a pandemic which would put them at risk. I think they looked enough, and I’d be a hypocrite if I thought it was a problem. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is one of my favourite movies, but that film has Sean Connery playing Harrison Ford’s father, despite there only being a twelve year age gap, and Henry Jones plays a more significant role in that film than Dan’s parents in this.
This was just a long winded way of saying, “I don’t care.”
Oh wow, the Sontarans tried to save human history by siding with the good guys (Russia)
What annoys me its the lack of empathy of the Doctor : i explain , the doctor have liver more than a 1000 years and she cant' understand that people not gonna belive her just because she telle them not do it . Second : she is angry at the commander for the revenge on the sontharan but again he is just a human who live mayber for what ? 40, 50 years ? of cours he wants revenge. Th doctor acts so condescending and act she never make mistakes , or never take revenge on people . She is acte like mary sue and its annoying.
The story felt bland, the sontaran faces look weird and the armour doesn’t fit into the classic era. Kaagh from the Sarah Jane adventures is a good example that sontarans can survive for long periods of time without their native nutrients.
I hadn't been concerned about infinite regenerations so much as the Master's ability to singlehandedly destroy the Citadel and defeat the rest of the Time Lords seemingly without raising a sweat, when the combined might of all the Daleks couldn't do it. Why is nobody outraged about *that*?