When detailing, we like using multi-category tags that have both type and instance combined. E.g. type comments and comments. So can use the same detail item type and still annotate instance info like spacings and embendment without having lots of family types. Starting to also trial filters that trigger off set words like existing and beyond, to override visuals. Dash and half tone detail items.
Never understood while people just default to using text, or even keynotes if they're feeling brave. It always ends in them running around in circles and producing inconsistent documentaion. Revit was designed to associate data from the very beginning and it's not difficult to review either. Good video Jeff.
You can use Notepad to create a nice bullet list and paste it into the description parameter for example a wall, roof, or floor composition. If I could send a picture it would be easier to understand.
Great video. I've played with material tags, but getting people on board with CORRECTLY editing materials makes it difficult. Getting them to a "standard" has been a battle to say the least.
Interesting risk mitigation strategy and clarity for notation. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the leader shoulder location on multi line text and text extent. The largest challenge I see is if you are working with others and making sure they are trained behind you in larger firms like mine.
I have always done this since I learned Revit 5 years ago because I never learned to use Keynotes. I was taught to automate everything in Revit that's why I don't use keynotes.
Finaly someone that use the description materiasl as they should, im allway pro description materials and bring it to the documentations, i will like to show you my material finished plans views they have planty of tags for layers on walls jajaja its a nightmare for someones jajaja. On favor for this approach
can you schedule a family and the materials that make up the family? I want to schedule a "wall Assembly" for example, and instead of listing manually just take the list from the wall materials
Do you have a keyboard shortcut to quickly get to the 'Description' cell? I've added -T to open 'Type Properties' but then no quick KB shortcut to open 'Identity Data' and then to open 'Description'. 'Description' does not show up in KB options. Any suggestions?
Its text wrapping that has stopped me from going all in, also i prefer curved leaders, but happy for this discussion its obviously preferred to be automated as much as possible
Do you find the material tags lose there hosting when printing sheets? As still finding that is an issue in 2024, when tagging the likes of wall linings and finishes in plan. Yet keynotes dont.
Are there any issues with tags that use instance parameters wanting to break model or detail groups when changing the instance parameter of an asset in the group?
When detailing, we like using multi-category tags that have both type and instance combined. E.g. type comments and comments. So can use the same detail item type and still annotate instance info like spacings and embendment without having lots of family types.
Starting to also trial filters that trigger off set words like existing and beyond, to override visuals. Dash and half tone detail items.
the 2 view things, one over the other. Is a great tip. thanks
@@ivantenhave6131 haha no problem!!!
Never understood while people just default to using text, or even keynotes if they're feeling brave. It always ends in them running around in circles and producing inconsistent documentaion. Revit was designed to associate data from the very beginning and it's not difficult to review either.
Good video Jeff.
You can use Notepad to create a nice bullet list and paste it into the description parameter for example a wall, roof, or floor composition. If I could send a picture it would be easier to understand.
I’ve got a insulation family I built that allows tagging. Pretty sure BIM guru had a tutorial on how to make it. Works just as per the revit tool.
@@jessegould1 oh do share!! 😎
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Great video. I've played with material tags, but getting people on board with CORRECTLY editing materials makes it difficult. Getting them to a "standard" has been a battle to say the least.
@@48VAC cheers!
Interesting risk mitigation strategy and clarity for notation. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the leader shoulder location on multi line text and text extent. The largest challenge I see is if you are working with others and making sure they are trained behind you in larger firms like mine.
I agree... but also, training people to do this is easier than training them to use keynotes... IMHO
@@TheRevitKid touche
Also thanks for this! I can't do keynotes as for me personally they don't work from a QA/QC perspective.
Nice, yeah I have been using Arial Narrow as well
I have always done this since I learned Revit 5 years ago because I never learned to use Keynotes. I was taught to automate everything in Revit that's why I don't use keynotes.
Finaly someone that use the description materiasl as they should, im allway pro description materials and bring it to the documentations, i will like to show you my material finished plans views they have planty of tags for layers on walls jajaja its a nightmare for someones jajaja. On favor for this approach
can you schedule a family and the materials that make up the family? I want to schedule a "wall Assembly" for example, and instead of listing manually just take the list from the wall materials
Do you have a keyboard shortcut to quickly get to the 'Description' cell? I've added -T to open 'Type Properties' but then no quick KB shortcut to open 'Identity Data' and then to open 'Description'. 'Description' does not show up in KB options. Any suggestions?
@@garybeck7233 no… but remember you can just type in the tag!
Its text wrapping that has stopped me from going all in, also i prefer curved leaders, but happy for this discussion its obviously preferred to be automated as much as possible
Do you find the material tags lose there hosting when printing sheets? As still finding that is an issue in 2024, when tagging the likes of wall linings and finishes in plan.
Yet keynotes dont.
I have not had that happen at all... ?? hmmmm.....
Are there any issues with tags that use instance parameters wanting to break model or detail groups when changing the instance parameter of an asset in the group?
As long as they are shared or project parameters it will work
Currently still needs to be a text based parameter, otherwise if you have more than 1 group instance it will break the group.