For volume house builders in UK we use ceiling mounted light families that have an invisible model line from its centre towards the floor about 2m long. This invisible line is then cut by the view cut plane and therefore the light becomes visible in the floor plan. Same method for smoke detectors too.
If you are using the Detail Line method. The Spline works better than arcs. That way if the fixture shifts you can just drag the end of the spline to the new location.
You actually can change the text number of the stock switches by the number that u decided/want to have, good explaination on this subject, nice video.
Hello thank you very much for this video but we can not plca this electrical wires in different design options, while having light in main model right?
Great breakdown on the trials and tribulations of Electrical plans. I think the next thing you could talk about is “art” of placing the lighting symbols in revit schedules. My best efforts with this involve a reliance on an established lexicon of symbols that are sliced to established bitmaps images in photoshop and integrated back into the lighting families as image files so the symbol itself can populate the schedule. In this way the symbol key and the schedule can essentially be one entity. On residential architecture, where the scope is small enough, it makes for a very legible document. Admittedly, a lot of upfront work.
There are approaches... but, also, we should be asking ourselves why we need symbols in the schedule ton begin with? If the fixture is tagged as "P1" and the schedule says P1.... why is a graphical symbol legend even necessary??!
I've been using RCPs for electrical for the last decade or so once I figured out how to set it up properly. What I found annoying in Plan Views is that the electrical fixtures can sometimes host to the floor or counters or other planes in the way. Then it is not always apparent until you start looking at 3D views or sections.
@@Rotor-Sims Exactly! And then you cant not get it to attach to the porch so you flip the house in 3D and place it and then back to the plan to nudge it to it's correct placement. 🤣
For method 2: you can go in the switch family and add a connector. then you would have to put it in the same circuit as the lights to be able to add the wire and connect them.
If you place a connector on a work plane, while you have the connector selected you will get default witness line dimensions appear from the centreline of the connector to random nearby reference planes. You can then drag those witness lines to other reference planes and turn them into real dimesons that can be linked to parameters like normal. At least that's the only way I've found to dimension them without using the face host central dummy extrusion strategy. Don't we love MEP connectors?
Translate Brazil: ola amigo, voce tem algum template de revit mep elétrico, que gere automaticamente a fiação do circuito, em seus quantitativos e dentro da norma de limite de circuitos e fios permitidos dentro deste conduite pela sua bitola ( eapessura). ?
I’m a Senior EE for 20+ years and a Revit customizer for 15 years. If you want some more insight on electrical families, please let me know the best way to contact you.
To connect to the lights to a switch with wires, you just have to group the switch with the lights when you click the power button. (26:14) So when Brenton ctrl clicks the lights, he would have just needed to select the switch and he should be good.
I believe Brenton qualified that with they were just used for space planning and sizing… Given Brenton himself has made one of the best cabinet family libraries I have used… I don’t think they stay detail lines for very long ;)
@@TheRevitKid yes off course great guest! I've watched the other videos with him as well I figured because he makes families, he would most likely have a very basic family set up for this even at early stages like you guys said in this video whenever you decide on 2d it always comes back to bite you. personally i just do a model in place volume until I'm ready to set in the actual cabinets. I know general consensus is model in place is not as good as a family
Ashamed to say I didn't this time. Got used to the limitations of LT being ignored also. 🤦🏼♂️ Shame on me. Thank you Jeff and Thank you Brenton. Don't suppose there is a similar workflow for plumbing? Currently use specific beam and column families for coordinating with structure and between floors.
lmaooo ... & I’m out here modeling every wire in 3D 😂 honestly if some of yalls saw the system that I came up with , yalls minds would be blow . lmk if ur interested in seeing , I can show what I mean
I am new to Revit. Is there a way to do a concealed wiring and plumbing run through a cut opening in a brick wall, floor and ceiling, modelled in Revit. This video explains why this is needed. ua-cam.com/video/RsRtlM8VvLU/v-deo.html I wish there were a scheduling method that is better than showing every switch overlaid on the Architectural layout.
@@TheRevitKid The ability to select underlay elements was new to me. It was frustrating finding the element in 3D, going to a plan, and moving it with arrow keys. It even drove me to do the backward method of making a model line in the ceiling can family that comes down to the cut plane so you can see the lights in a regular floor plan view. What a filter nightmare that was. Thank you for this content.
@@drewtonmorrison right!? The number of people I show that stupid little button to on the bottom right that “face palm” from it is out of control! So glad you found something useful in the episode !
Nice to know i'm not the only one who believes there isn't a clear workflow in Revit for lighting and electrical plans. Thanks for sharing this topic.
You bet! Thanks for tuning in!
Im doing vids on this since im 100% electrical on revit. Would you guys subscribe and support, i see there's a gap
For volume house builders in UK we use ceiling mounted light families that have an invisible model line from its centre towards the floor about 2m long. This invisible line is then cut by the view cut plane and therefore the light becomes visible in the floor plan. Same method for smoke detectors too.
Yes I have seen this method as well! It has its pros and cons, for sure!
That’s what I’ve been having to do also!
One of the most valuable episodes.. It's really important.. Thank you
Thank you for tuning in and for the kind words!!
Just when I was struggling... perfect and well detailed 👍👍👍
Another good show. I always pick up a few tidbits here! Thanks Jeff.
Woot! Me too!
Good stuff!
More MEP, More MEP! 😃
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If you are using the Detail Line method. The Spline works better than arcs. That way if the fixture shifts you can just drag the end of the spline to the new location.
You actually can change the text number of the stock switches by the number that u decided/want to have, good explaination on this subject, nice video.
Cool! THanks for tuning in!
Hello thank you very much for this video but we can not plca this electrical wires in different design options, while having light in main model right?
Great breakdown on the trials and tribulations of Electrical plans. I think the next thing you could talk about is “art” of placing the lighting symbols in revit schedules. My best efforts with this involve a reliance on an established lexicon of symbols that are sliced to established bitmaps images in photoshop and integrated back into the lighting families as image files so the symbol itself can populate the schedule. In this way the symbol key and the schedule can essentially be one entity. On residential architecture, where the scope is small enough, it makes for a very legible document. Admittedly, a lot of upfront work.
There are approaches... but, also, we should be asking ourselves why we need symbols in the schedule ton begin with? If the fixture is tagged as "P1" and the schedule says P1.... why is a graphical symbol legend even necessary??!
All this information for free, good stuff ❤
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I've been using RCPs for electrical for the last decade or so once I figured out how to set it up properly. What I found annoying in Plan Views is that the electrical fixtures can sometimes host to the floor or counters or other planes in the way. Then it is not always apparent until you start looking at 3D views or sections.
@@Rotor-Sims Exactly! And then you cant not get it to attach to the porch so you flip the house in 3D and place it and then back to the plan to nudge it to it's correct placement. 🤣
For method 2: you can go in the switch family and add a connector. then you would have to put it in the same circuit as the lights to be able to add the wire and connect them.
Awesome video! Are those families being presented yet?
Yes, actually... I believe Brenton does have them available now...
love this, curoius about method used for labeling EF in plans. any hints and/or how that will work in your new families?
As long as the families are built well.. tags!! I assume!
If you place a connector on a work plane, while you have the connector selected you will get default witness line dimensions appear from the centreline of the connector to random nearby reference planes. You can then drag those witness lines to other reference planes and turn them into real dimesons that can be linked to parameters like normal.
At least that's the only way I've found to dimension them without using the face host central dummy extrusion strategy. Don't we love MEP connectors?
Great tip Conor! Thanks!
Brenton Wiberg, and 30 x 40 next?! can't wait
hehehe!! :)
FYI metric light switches do have connectors, Never had a problem connecting wires to them.
Interesting !!
Great video, but left a cliffhanger…
How did he fix the issue with symbols and sloped surfaces?
I curious about that part! :)
You’ll have to tune in when he comes back on 😝😝
any scheduled plans for this tutorial this year?@@TheRevitKid
When I go into object styles and try to turn off the home run arrows there is no checkbox next to them. No option to turn them off? Revit 2024
Translate Brazil: ola amigo, voce tem algum template de revit mep elétrico, que gere automaticamente a fiação do circuito, em seus quantitativos e dentro da norma de limite de circuitos e fios permitidos dentro deste conduite pela sua bitola ( eapessura). ?
I’m a Senior EE for 20+ years and a Revit customizer for 15 years. If you want some more insight on electrical families, please let me know the best way to contact you.
Shoot me an email ... Jeff AT TheRevitKid.com
Guy's i use revit purely for electrical planning. Im planning to use my channel for this specific reason 6:49
Can we collaborate for a better reach?
When will Brenton's electrical families be available? Need!
Haha me too! He said later in the year, hopefully! Don't worry, I will let you all know and probably have him back on the channel when he is ready!
To connect to the lights to a switch with wires, you just have to group the switch with the lights when you click the power button. (26:14) So when Brenton ctrl clicks the lights, he would have just needed to select the switch and he should be good.
Yeah but the switch does not have a connector by default. So I don’t think that was the initial issue…?
“Cicle with the X” is a node.
A little surprised you used detail lines for cabinets!
I believe Brenton qualified that with they were just used for space planning and sizing… Given Brenton himself has made one of the best cabinet family libraries I have used… I don’t think they stay detail lines for very long ;)
@@TheRevitKid yes off course great guest! I've watched the other videos with him as well
I figured because he makes families, he would most likely have a very basic family set up for this even at early stages
like you guys said in this video whenever you decide on 2d it always comes back to bite you.
personally i just do a model in place volume until I'm ready to set in the actual cabinets. I know general consensus is model in place is not as good as a family
@@eastudio-K Check out this video of mine... this is usually how I do it. ua-cam.com/video/73RDONFH7L8/v-deo.html
Any tips for RevitLT users?
Did you watch the video? Brenton talked about two approaches that are accessible for Revit LT users ….
Long story short … his suggestion was method 2 but with lines for the wires
Ashamed to say I didn't this time. Got used to the limitations of LT being ignored also. 🤦🏼♂️
Shame on me.
Thank you Jeff and Thank you Brenton.
Don't suppose there is a similar workflow for plumbing? Currently use specific beam and column families for coordinating with structure and between floors.
just put model line and set it to invincible for you lighting fixtures.. it will display your lighting in plan
That works.... I don't like it. but, it works.
45:28 its so hard to see you guys struggle like this
Hey! I’d be happy to chat. Coming on 9 years as an EE in NYC.
Shoot me an email!
@@TheRevitKid I tried but haven’t received a response. Not sure I have the right email.
lmaooo ... & I’m out here modeling every wire in 3D 😂 honestly if some of yalls saw the system that I came up with , yalls minds would be blow . lmk if ur interested in seeing , I can show what I mean
I am new to Revit.
Is there a way to do a concealed wiring and plumbing run through a cut opening in a brick wall, floor and ceiling, modelled in Revit.
This video explains why this is needed. ua-cam.com/video/RsRtlM8VvLU/v-deo.html
I wish there were a scheduling method that is better than showing every switch overlaid on the Architectural layout.
WHAT IN THE UNDERLAY SELECTION WAS THAT
Which selection ... He did a few?
@@TheRevitKid The ability to select underlay elements was new to me. It was frustrating finding the element in 3D, going to a plan, and moving it with arrow keys. It even drove me to do the backward method of making a model line in the ceiling can family that comes down to the cut plane so you can see the lights in a regular floor plan view. What a filter nightmare that was. Thank you for this content.
@@drewtonmorrison right!? The number of people I show that stupid little button to on the bottom right that “face palm” from it is out of control! So glad you found something useful in the episode !
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