Ingmar Bergman and Andrei Tarkovsky - Visual Similarities

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  • Visual essay on Ingmar Bergman and Andrei Tarkovsky.
    For criticism, teaching and research purposes.
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  • @Tocqueville69
    @Tocqueville69 3 роки тому +138

    Bergman once said "To me, Tarkovsky is the greatest.."
    I kinda have to disagree with him: In art, it's bad to say the" Best".......It's not a competitive sport, after all.
    Having said that, countless times I have uttered the words " To me, Tarkovsky is the greatest..."

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 2 роки тому +27

      There's a huge difference between " *To me* he's the greatest" and "This is the best". You cannot be wrong when you're giving an opinion, but also, I do believe Tarkovsky was the best.

    • @MikelGCinema
      @MikelGCinema 2 роки тому +4

      To me, Andrei was the best.

    • @randomrecipes5007
      @randomrecipes5007 Рік тому +2

      @@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Exactly, to me Kubrick is the greatest... but I understand why others think Tarkovsky, or Bergman, or Kurosawa, or anyone... some of the more popular choices like Nolan, Tarantino, Cameron, Fincher, Spielberg, Carpenter, Burton, etc to me are some of the best as well, or my faves.. more known to most.. but I have my opinions, and my faves, and no one can tell me different.. I wouldn't knock someone for saying "to me, Michael Bay is the greatest" I wouldn't agree, but I would respect their taste/opinion.. maybe film to them is spectacle, explosions, comedy, ridiculousness, over the top everything with crazy shots jammed with color... maybe that to them is peak cinema.. that's their opinion, and I respect it.

    • @CB-rv9kb
      @CB-rv9kb Рік тому +3

      ​@@randomrecipes5007 I don't think you would respect it, I think you would tolerate it.

    • @TondersWonders
      @TondersWonders 2 місяці тому

      To a degree, but really it is important for artists to assess the quality of other art, and the more you can ground that in argument the better.

  • @rubenmorales6887
    @rubenmorales6887 2 роки тому +83

    Is weird that even with both side by side, Tarkovsky still manages to pull the sense of dream-like worlds within our reality with cinematography while the other represents the oddities of the world and the beauty with it

  • @Mmxxaamm
    @Mmxxaamm 4 роки тому +335

    To me the greatest two to ever do it, no discussions, no questions asked, they both are the masters for me.

    • @ikangovanc6773
      @ikangovanc6773 4 роки тому +15

      @paul w with all due respect for bresson I believe tarkovsky took it to the next level transcending narratives to create poetry thats far more superior than anyone has achieved so far

    • @ikangovanc6773
      @ikangovanc6773 4 роки тому +3

      @paul w yes true that bresson's minimalism liberated him to do very subtle things making the best use of cinematic language. Both tarkovsky & bresson both had their own vision and they done things that best bring out their artistic abilities :) so I felt comparing one with the other is like insulting them. Let's celebrate their works

    • @michaelwu7678
      @michaelwu7678 3 роки тому +16

      paul w You can’t watch Tarkovsky’s movies with a narrative mindset like Bresson’s or Bresson’s movies with a poetic mindset like Tarkovsky’s. Imo Bresson is equal to Tarkovsky, but Tarkovsky is the one who truly liberated cinema as an art form into something uniquely its own. The thematic material in Bresson’s movies can mostly be reworked into great narrative literatures, but with Tarkovsky, that would be impossible. Even Bergman recognized this when he stated “Tarkovsky is for me the greatest, the one who invented a new language, true to the nature of film, as it captures life as a reflection, life as a dream.”

    • @raben7049
      @raben7049 3 роки тому +3

      @@michaelwu7678 Not all of Tarkovsky films do that though. Both great regardless

    • @batmanfromindia7210
      @batmanfromindia7210 3 роки тому +4

      Nah, If you look closer Tarkovsky was millions of miles ahead than any other.

  • @praburajabelliganuru
    @praburajabelliganuru 3 роки тому +62

    Tarkovsky and Bergman's films are more of moving frames than films. Aesthetically Brilliant!

    • @ehsome
      @ehsome 8 місяців тому +1

      Beautifully expressed. Some shots can indeed be described to be giving exactly this feeling. Your words in my view precisely highlight Tarkovsky's monumentality in cinematography - which derives from the greek word for movement: kinema; his compositions have explored, discovered and revealed this specific dimension of the art - this specific use of movement - this specific human feeling in response to seeing in what forms and compositions movement can exist and express - so, so beautifully...

    • @TondersWonders
      @TondersWonders 2 місяці тому +2

      In those days, films were called motion pictures after all.

  • @truthterrain3484
    @truthterrain3484 2 роки тому +34

    I love the non linear comparison, like an overlaying of melodies

  • @Haraenul
    @Haraenul 3 роки тому +175

    Cinema is really the purest and most noble thing humanity could ever achieve.

    • @BruceWayne-zj1kw
      @BruceWayne-zj1kw 3 роки тому +8

      calm down, nerd.

    • @Haraenul
      @Haraenul 3 роки тому +22

      @@BruceWayne-zj1kw your name is literally Bruce Wayne you fucking stupid ass..

    • @HerbalistGuybrush
      @HerbalistGuybrush 3 роки тому +18

      @House Of Fleapit Shut up, still great movies being made

    • @sandippaul468
      @sandippaul468 2 роки тому +7

      I thought is was mathematics

    • @mahatmaniggandhi2898
      @mahatmaniggandhi2898 Рік тому +3

      @@sandippaul468 based and euler pilled

  • @evenorahpausetdaviod4368
    @evenorahpausetdaviod4368 3 роки тому +17

    Beautiful always.... Interesting. We miss them. "Nous avons besoin d'eux, maintenant!". Today's cinema needs these directors for all the deep emotions they can create with only one shot

  • @waikiki1132
    @waikiki1132 3 роки тому +40

    this is huge inspiration for me to continue watching their films. thanks

  • @fountaincap
    @fountaincap 3 роки тому +30

    Beautiful, like a moving painting.

  • @vangarbo7092
    @vangarbo7092 4 роки тому +87

    Dos maestros absolutos. Ambos se admiraban y se inspiraban entre sí, y gracias a esta admiración poética, muchos estudiantes de cine y realizadores autodidactas, también podemos inspirarnos con ellos. Regalo enorme hacia el arte. Sublime.

  • @ehsimeserve8324
    @ehsimeserve8324 2 роки тому +5

    The beauty of these shots is insane. I could watch a video like this for hours!

  • @stalker1998_
    @stalker1998_ 4 роки тому +38

    Los 2 mejores directores de la historia

  • @mahdibenfekih87
    @mahdibenfekih87 3 роки тому +9

    I love how you wrapped all this up in Ólafur Arnald's Ágúst, great visual essay..

  • @fireemblem2770
    @fireemblem2770 4 роки тому +63

    The way you treat the clips of Bergman with such gentleness… makes me now see what makes him so remarkable. I FINALLY get Bergman because of you.

    • @siray3232
      @siray3232 3 роки тому +1

      I wanted to say the same thing, I didn't really appreciate Through a Glass Darkly during my first watch (and I haven't seen Summer with Monika) but I actually teared up at 1:51 and 2:22 because the music elevated the essence of the scenes

    • @illz47
      @illz47 3 роки тому +2

      Siray 2:22 is a great shot from Summer With Monika. But I’m excited to get to Through a Glass Darkly!

  • @LisaHawkinsHotJava
    @LisaHawkinsHotJava Рік тому +8

    (1) Evocative, moving music. Who was the composer? (2) Intriguing: Swedish actor Erland Josephson played lead roles in both Bergman's and Tarkovsky's films! Josephson became a Bergman regular in the 1970's. (3) Two of the greatest filmmakers ever, without a doubt! Movies as art, a very apt juxtaposition. Thank you for creating this!

    • @ThomasJester1968
      @ThomasJester1968 Рік тому +1

      Josephson’s appearances for Bergman actually go back to the 40’s (at least It Rains On Our Love, though I could be mistaken), and was in dozens since, I believe he’s his most used actor. They were BFFs, too.

  • @luisuribe9254
    @luisuribe9254 4 роки тому +5

    Maravilloso trabajo, Gabriel.

  • @Bastian182712
    @Bastian182712 4 роки тому +4

    El mejor canal de youtube que he descubierto este 2020

  • @lizardman7364
    @lizardman7364 Рік тому +1

    wow. that brought tears to my eyes. how lucky we are to have these incredible movies. thanks again so much, that was a great video.

  • @vnekliaev
    @vnekliaev 4 роки тому +12

    Very perceptive. Thank you !

  • @jjaviercampos
    @jjaviercampos 4 роки тому +24

    similarities yes, the same meaning no.

  • @01Roberto
    @01Roberto 3 роки тому +4

    i woke up now and saw the video while having breakfast.
    My day is already better

  • @vlogpriv9566
    @vlogpriv9566 3 роки тому +8

    This is true of the cinema. More than every other director achieved...

    • @LisaHawkinsHotJava
      @LisaHawkinsHotJava Рік тому +4

      Check out de Sica, Fellini, Rossellini, Antonioni, Truffaut, Godard, Kurosawa, Ozu. These are also the great masters who contributed mightily to the art of film.

  • @robertapinatti
    @robertapinatti 4 роки тому +5

    Meraviglioso.Grazie👋👋👋👋💖

  • @omarperez5581
    @omarperez5581 2 роки тому +2

    Gracias por darnos este regalo.

  • @batmansbookshelf
    @batmansbookshelf 4 роки тому +5

    Amazing! Thank you.

  • @sophiasanchez1348
    @sophiasanchez1348 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful work.

  • @davileal7477
    @davileal7477 3 роки тому +2

    It's so beautiful. Thanks.

  • @ShootMeMovieReviews
    @ShootMeMovieReviews 3 роки тому +3

    Beautifully done.

  • @alrobvy
    @alrobvy 4 роки тому +6

    Vert Nice work...!!

  • @sudipto1969
    @sudipto1969 3 роки тому +2

    You have done a great job

  • @YajtaySaltaArgentina
    @YajtaySaltaArgentina 3 роки тому +1

    Cuanta belleza junta! Amé este video!

  • @engmadiver3463
    @engmadiver3463 11 місяців тому

    the beauty of cinematography is unbelievable

  • @999titu
    @999titu 7 місяців тому +3

    GOATs directors (untouchable list)
    Bergman
    Kubrick
    Antonioni
    Sergeo leone
    Akira kurvasov
    Fellini
    Orsen Welles
    Tarkovsky
    Scorsese
    Goddard
    Malick
    Kisflosvski
    Visconti
    Lynch
    Ray
    Hitchkok

    • @TondersWonders
      @TondersWonders 2 місяці тому

      Goddard, Lynch and Hitchcock don't belong on that list at all.

    • @999titu
      @999titu 2 місяці тому

      @@TondersWonders elephant man,
      Eraserhead,blue velvet, mullholland drive , lost Highway gems of world cinema, if you had watched them you wouldn't have said so

  • @TruffautAllen
    @TruffautAllen 4 роки тому +2

    Hermosa las cigarras.

  • @tamerov2387
    @tamerov2387 4 роки тому +5

    the influence was mutual, but the two wanted and did not imitate each other.

  • @loganadair3075
    @loganadair3075 5 місяців тому

    Thank you. Absolutely beautiful

  • @bodiesatva
    @bodiesatva 10 місяців тому +1

    this is how they communicate with each other

  • @ChathurkaMadhushan
    @ChathurkaMadhushan 4 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @kawshalyakarunaratne9172
    @kawshalyakarunaratne9172 4 роки тому +1

    thank you !

  • @izabela1866
    @izabela1866 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!

  • @threadkillers
    @threadkillers 3 роки тому +2

    Well done!

  • @Johlibaptist
    @Johlibaptist 2 роки тому +2

    Sublime.

  • @batmanfromindia7210
    @batmanfromindia7210 3 роки тому +15

    Bergman was much more articulate and disciplined But Tarkovsky ruthlessly spears your soul with visuals unlike any other.

  • @denisebrunato9052
    @denisebrunato9052 3 роки тому +5

    Gênios do cinema mundial

  • @nnthadani1
    @nnthadani1 3 роки тому +3

    Greatest masters of movie making

  • @robertpetrie6847
    @robertpetrie6847 4 роки тому +4

    Lovely

  • @desssval
    @desssval Рік тому

    Wonderful work, Gabriel Gomez! Simply wonderful!

  • @paulmikaelpetersson432
    @paulmikaelpetersson432 2 роки тому

    Big big Thanks

  • @marceloadelar
    @marceloadelar 3 роки тому +8

    my two favorite directors

  • @mellelili1707
    @mellelili1707 2 роки тому +1

    Great job 👏👏👏👏 deserved more likes

  • @c4CHIN
    @c4CHIN Рік тому

    which softwares do you use for editing this? (Love it❤️🙏)

  • @strangelove1574
    @strangelove1574 3 роки тому

    Nice essay

  • @z-e-r-o-
    @z-e-r-o- 4 роки тому +7

    Music: Ólafur Arnalds - Ágúst
    ua-cam.com/video/LYvlmiwEP9M/v-deo.html

  • @barcali89
    @barcali89 2 роки тому

    Bravo!

  • @gibson4ever28
    @gibson4ever28 4 роки тому +2

    well done!

  • @ash11vibes
    @ash11vibes Рік тому +1

    Ahh poetic cinema✨️

  • @imdiyu
    @imdiyu 4 роки тому +1

    beautiful

  • @alrobvy
    @alrobvy Рік тому

    Great!!❤❤

  • @pratikgoud1
    @pratikgoud1 4 роки тому +4

    Beautiful

  • @giovannicolajanni3069
    @giovannicolajanni3069 4 роки тому +4

    Me gustaría felicitarlo por su ingeniosa idea de comparar escenas tomadas de dos directores ilustres como Bergman y Tarkovsky por similitud. Supongo que también te gustan Kurosawa y Fellini ...

    Le pido a venia mi castellano de hecho poco elegante y preciso! Colajanni Giovanni

  • @pelerinonline2191
    @pelerinonline2191 Рік тому

    Two of the greatest.

  • @catarinagerardo5394
    @catarinagerardo5394 Рік тому

    this is so good i cried

  • @theaterobscura
    @theaterobscura 4 роки тому +11

    Tarkovsky said in his Sculpting in Time that he never imitated another artist, and if he did, he'd reshoot it. But that's impossible. Influences constantly seep into your sub-conscious. Obviously he was influence by Bergman. Who wasn't?

    • @whitestar5010
      @whitestar5010 4 роки тому +3

      In one of his interviews he admitted that sometimes we'd see that a scene reminds of what one could see, for instance, in a Bergman's picture, and then we'd let it be just to shoutout his collegue.

    • @whitestar5010
      @whitestar5010 4 роки тому +7

      Bergman too was heavily influnced by Tarkovsky, he learned a great deal from Andrei Rublev, which was his favorite of all time

    • @riva2003
      @riva2003 3 роки тому +1

      Imitation does not equal influence.

    • @Rehan-wb2ok
      @Rehan-wb2ok 3 роки тому +1

      when someone look at closely, there is something, so-called, new or pure.. at all. each work has been produced by each was.

  • @manued.p.8464
    @manued.p.8464 4 роки тому

    Superlativo

  • @REALOSCURO
    @REALOSCURO 3 роки тому +3

    Aunque no lo creas, el master Tarkovsky, no hubiera esta tan feliz, el nunca deseo repetirse de otro master. Lo dijo claro en una conferencia; pero si esto sucedía, él solo lo atribuye como algo inconsciente o una especie de tributo del que trataba de alejarse

    • @REALOSCURO
      @REALOSCURO 3 роки тому

      Tienes alguna dirección de contacto para unas consultas por favor

    • @RentonNotner96
      @RentonNotner96 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/yStwknuAe3k/v-deo.html

  • @ggthewhale
    @ggthewhale 3 роки тому +2

    As kino as it gets

  • @LulasSong
    @LulasSong 2 місяці тому

    Please credit the cameraman!❤️♥️❤️

  • @brauliomorrison
    @brauliomorrison 3 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno Місяць тому

    Quentin Tarantino and Alan Smithee - Visual Similarities

  • @Pravinvirkar
    @Pravinvirkar 4 роки тому

    Surreal

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 Рік тому

    In 1979 Takovsky moved to Italy after having a falling out with the Soviet Film industry. He really missed an opportunity while he was there to capture rain in the Pantheon coming through the Oculul in the ceiling on film. We all know he loved recording indoor raining so why didn't he shoot in the one building that is designed rain indoors?

  • @jesuslabra
    @jesuslabra 4 роки тому +1

    Great minds think alike way

  • @giovannicolajanni3069
    @giovannicolajanni3069 4 роки тому +2

    ¡Le pido a venia mi castellano de hecho poco elegante y preciso! Colajanni Giovanni

  • @batuhanaskn3621
    @batuhanaskn3621 Рік тому

    The biggest succes of tarkovski is be able to use long background sequence in the best way

  • @user-qx6gr8on4v
    @user-qx6gr8on4v Рік тому +1

    静謐な画面、美しい音楽、奇妙な主人公達、宇宙の中の孤独感…😔映画の中の映画❗☝️

  • @themastermind2873
    @themastermind2873 5 місяців тому

    what is the name of the song used in this video?

  • @juanantoniogarciamartinez675
    @juanantoniogarciamartinez675 4 роки тому

    nise

  • @nelsonandreslopez9419
    @nelsonandreslopez9419 Рік тому

    The two pillars of cinema in my opinion. It was thanks to them and Kubrick that I decided to venture into auteur and art cinema and I have discovered other great contemplative teachers (such as Angelopoulos, Tárr, Bresson, Dreyer, etc.) and although I have enjoyed them I cannot help but feel that in their necessary asceticism they have let slip and lose a certain spark and spirituality that overflows with Tarkovsky and Bergman.

    • @sandramorey2529
      @sandramorey2529 Рік тому

      Did you see Parajanov's Shadows of our Forgotten ancestors? He is often compared with Tarkovsky. He spent 5 years in a gulag for making Shadows.

  • @cud9104
    @cud9104 Рік тому

    THE TWO GREATEST TO EVER DO IT

  • @birk3nstock
    @birk3nstock 2 роки тому

    Two masters

  • @tterrab999
    @tterrab999 2 роки тому +2

    Beautifully done!
    It's easy to be curious as to "who did it first". Who copied whom?
    I think in most cases neither. There are probably examples in earlier films, but these the evolution and mastery of a concept.

    • @homelessathome
      @homelessathome 2 роки тому +5

      basically in one of his interview Bergman confessed an attempt to emulate Tarkovsky and to have blatantly failed in it

  • @RUSTA5
    @RUSTA5 12 днів тому +1

    Thank you 🇷🇺❤️

  • @antonybastin3432
    @antonybastin3432 Рік тому

    👍♥️

  • @paulmikael7955
    @paulmikael7955 4 роки тому +1

    Whao:)

  • @catherinea6690
    @catherinea6690 2 роки тому

    What's the name of this music plz?

  • @Qrismel
    @Qrismel 3 роки тому +1

    Tarkovsky, Tarkovsky, Tarkovsky! Amazing.

  • @jessica5497
    @jessica5497 2 роки тому +1

    Similar images, different meanings.

  • @mundo1234
    @mundo1234 Рік тому +1

    Puestos a elegir entre dos maestros, Bergman lo hizo antes y mejor.

  • @Michael-cv5wk
    @Michael-cv5wk 3 роки тому +1

    Which Bergman film is it at 0:45?

  • @cliffanlover
    @cliffanlover 3 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know where the last Tarkovsky shot is from?

  • @fiski4894
    @fiski4894 4 роки тому

    Boss

  • @antongavutti4376
    @antongavutti4376 2 роки тому

    Kahanha hanga
    Nakakamangha
    Kagilas-gilas.

  • @juarezmat
    @juarezmat 2 роки тому +1

    this is where i come to cry

  • @tamerov2387
    @tamerov2387 4 роки тому +2

    1:23 Which Bergman films is this?

    • @Gar96229
      @Gar96229 4 роки тому +1

      After the Rehearsal (1984)

    • @tamerov2387
      @tamerov2387 4 роки тому +1

      @@Gar96229 Thank you very much!

  • @phoenixabernathy2741
    @phoenixabernathy2741 2 роки тому

    which bergman film at 0:45

  • @low3242
    @low3242 2 роки тому

    Source on 0:55 Bergman shot?

  • @shehwaazkhan8415
    @shehwaazkhan8415 3 роки тому +1

    What's the name of the first movie in Bergman's frame?

  • @rtvz8788
    @rtvz8788 3 роки тому

    No pusiste los nombres 😭

  • @erikjaman4401
    @erikjaman4401 2 роки тому

    It’s MJ and Kobe

  • @thefebo8987
    @thefebo8987 4 роки тому +4

    1:56 what Bergman film is this?

    • @cifersand
      @cifersand 4 роки тому +6

      Through a Glass Darkly

    • @thefebo8987
      @thefebo8987 4 роки тому +1

      @@cifersand thanks