I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks moving the elephant's head depending on the strokes needed for the painting. Nudging l it up & down to get it to make a vertical line, or pulling it sideways for a horizontal line. Or to encourage spots & blobs tugging the ear forward, towards the canvas etc...
it's always the same picture by Suda, may be she was made to practice to paint repeatedly til she had it just so? I'm wondering what's the truth behind all this?
These elephants arent painting of their own free will. Seriously look it up here on youtube. They are tortured, sleep deprived, beaten, and made to do what humans want. The person next to the elephant, who the elephant keeps handing the paint brush too, is literally digging into the elephants ear which is in turn controlling where the elephant puts the paint brush. Its awful. I bawled my eyes out when I found out what people do to these beautiful animals..
I think the people who are screaming "abuse" are a little misguided. The animal isn't getting hurt in any way. Is it something an elephant would naturally do, no, they're being guided by their handlers, but they live a good life. I'm ok with these people making money, i hope they can support their families and take good care of the animals. It also shows how much animals can do, and that we're all part of a big family of animals. Would i wish all of this wasn't necessary for people to realise how valuable all life is? Ofcourse. Would i wish everyone cared for the wellbeing of animals just because? Ofcourse. But that's not reality sadly enough. Most people only start caring when they can see something in the animal that reminds them of themselves. It's just the way it is and hopefully awareness of how amazing all life is will grow bit by bit.
To learn anything you have to been guided at first. Practice is the way to learn. Human is not naturally made to drive car or fly an aircraft. They learn.
You are incorrect. They first break down the animal in a very abusive process. Educate yourself. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html You are the misguided one.
Look, m not trying to jump to conclusions, but it is incredibly sketchy that the trainer keeps his hand behind the elephant's ear. He might be pinching or sticking it with a pin whenever it messes up or thinks about stopping. He says it is for comfort or encouragement or whatever. Absolutely bull. How is it comforting to have a hand underneath your ear? Why would an elephant who wants to paint need comfort? Why would the ear be more comforting than anywhere else on the body that is in plain sight? And as for whether the elephants understand what they'e doing, likely not. They've been trained to do the same thing repeatedly. The strokes are so memorized, and all the elephants draw in the same pattern: tree first, then elephant, then leaves/flowers on the tree, then grass, then name. Someone who is truly being creative won't follow the same rhythm each time. That's not to say that elephants are not creative, but they are clearly just doing what they've been trained to. It's like if you teach someone a song in another language. They may be able to sing the song perfectly, but that doesn't mean they have any idea of what it actually means...
Lol? Who are you to say animals can't appreciate music, or pictures, or emotions, etc,... This just shows that humans aren't this super being and everything else is beneath us. I deeply care for animals, and i was shocked that an elephant could do this and it made me realise even more that animals are awesome and we should be kind to them, even if they look alien to us.
Doppe1ganger oof, another self-proclaimed animal lover who doesn’t know shit. Do your research. Getter taken away from their moms at young and they travel in herds. I see no herds for this animal. I also don’t see vast lands to roam freely on. Open your narrow view on the animal world. This is cruelty. You think one day an elephant decided to do this? There brains don’t function as ours. They may be intelligent but they probably don’t think of that as a simple elephant drawing. You think they like being taken away and exploited for profit? It’s like being sex trafficked.
I’m absolutely shocked and disappointed this is an NGEO video. Of course elephants are intelligent, sensitive, empathetic mammals. However, the fact remains they have been TRAINED to paint. The ABUSIVE, torturous, and sometimes deadly methods used to break and train elephants in Thailand, and elsewhere, are widely known and documented on videos and stills. Those are well guarded secrets the mahout don’t want out there, as it is their livelihood. The mahout has trained the elephant to move the brush in various directions in response to various cues to their ear, and the same picture is repeated multiple times a day, day in and day out. Why on earth would an elephant need “comforting” via touching and moving it’s ear where it connects to the body (the most tender spot)? There are no videos of elephants painting that don’t have a man holding it’s ear. Not a single one. Why do you suppose that is? To say this practice is horrible and not natural for the elephant in NO WAY demeans the intelligence or beautiful sentient beings that elephants are. But I do wish people would wake up to the cruel and manipulative ways of greedy people who abuse and exploit these, and other, wonderful beings in our animal kingdom.
@@tgrlilly yes, I have learned since then. I watched the video you sent. That is so horribly cruel to do that to them (dont you love the sharp hook?), on top of separating from its mother. They are terribly dependant on their mother. I want to touch one someday. Do you follow HERD and little Kanysia the baby albino elephant? These people protect elephants. They are on you tube.
I read an article where someone broke it down. According to the article the trainer is taping and pulling the elephants ear to "drive" the elephants trunk in the direction they want. You can see in the video the trainer grabs the elephant's ear, immediately after handing him the brush.
yep. And never leaving alone? or stand out of the elephant's body area. I think elephant understands something, but this trainer not gives us to see and understand what exactly elephant can draw himself.
I'm really disappointed that Nat Geo would do a piece on this. These animals are often abused as they are trained to do this. Elephants are not on this earth for our amusement. I thought we were all waking up to that.
It is amazing that elephants can manipulate a brush so well. The instruction on what to paint comes from the trainer and is the result of a great deal of practice and repetition. I doubt that the elephants could do this without their trainers standing next to them, prompting and giving direction for every stroke. Still quite amazing, though!
Look at the trainer standing behind her left ear with his hand behind her ear. He is pressing his finger on the place that he exerted pain during her training.
These elephants are tortured since their very young days: 1. They have no more tasks 2. Someone is permanently hiding behind their legs, touching them viciously 3. Please read the other comments 4. There are scientific experiments on apes, where one ape recognized the portrait of a human, only, for an elephant to be able to draw complicated shapes, this would implies having abstract notions as circle, rectangle etc. and combinations of them, which are hard even for a child 5. If you have a strong heart, you can watch the episodes of Memories de elefantes (2014). 6. I think solutions can be found, like that: a very rich person or organization buys all the elephants and a big park for them, where some young volunteers will take good care of the animals (mainly using drones). For the torsionaries, he sets a course on the values of human kindness, and then finds them potential jobs (eg, greeting card designer).
NOT TRUE. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS VIDEOED AND NO CRUELNESS. SOME PLACES ARE CRUEL. . BUT NOT THIS ANIMAL RESERVE. IT IS TRULY SAD WHEN CRUELTY ON PEOPLE OR ANIMALS EXERTED.😢
Notice how he grabs the ear of the elephant and appears to squeeze it. It’s a warning to the elephant. While training in the morning and evening he’ll have something he pricks the elephants ear with that causes pain so that the elephant later in front of tourists paints as it’s been trained to do. Trained with pain
Wish they showed the elephant from different angles in this video. I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks slightly moving the elephant's head up & down or sideways or tugging its ear forward towards the canvas to encourage spots & blobs depending on the strokes needed for that particular painting.
This amazing, intelligent- albeit, exploited animal is performing an elaborate trick. It doesn't paint a sky-next or a river-after that. It always paints an elephant holding a flower, or whatever it has been taught to paint, by repetition, and with the aid of reward, or possibly punishment. It is pretty remarkable when you first see it, but one wonders at what cost does the elephant learns to do this?
How much does the elephant trainer control the movement of the elephant's painting, I noticed the trainer with his hand behind the elephant's ear, perhaps signaling, where the paint strokes should go.
Wish they showed the elephant from different angles in this video. I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks slightly moving the elephant's head up & down or sideways or tugging its ear forward towards the canvas to encourage spots & blobs depending on the strokes needed for that particular painting.
These two remind me of the two from the first Jurassic Park when they first see the dinos and they get all stunned .. "They do move in heards.." I can admit I'd be stunned too
These elephants are tortured since their very young days: 1. They have no more tasks 2. Someone is permanently hiding behind their legs, touching them viciously 3. Please read the other comments 4. There are scientific experiments on apes, where one ape recognized the portrait of a human, only, for an elephant to be able to draw complicated shapes, this would implies having abstract notions as circle, rectangle etc. and combinations of them, which are hard even for a child 5. If you have a strong heart, you can watch the episodes of Memories de elefantes (2014). 6. I think solutions can be found, like that: a very rich person or organization buys all the elephants and a big park for them, where some young volunteers will take good care of the animals (mainly using drones). For the torsionaries, he sets a course on the values of human kindness, and then finds them potential jobs (eg, greeting card designer).
Human beings are so stupid and naive. If you want us to believe these beautiful animals are not abused, tell the trainer to not walk in with a F'ING BULLHOOK.
prove that the bullhook hurts an animal with a thick hide and isn't just a signal device and also show that the person in question is using it in that manner first
This is amazing to watch. But I'am waiting to see the elephant erase the canvas with white and consciously make a correction. ! that would be even better
To all of you who are saying these elephants were not abused to paint. Go to the wild and find all the wild elephants in the world and give them a paint brush and a canvas. See how many will paint for you and how many will ignore or crush you.
I want to see vidio of training them to paint to see how it works. Most animals are motivated by food. If kindness then it's cool,but if not then it s sad.
This isn't a dog.Elephants can't be domesticated.Them elephants are so badly beaten.Go watch a video and see how they get domesticated. Man people scare me.Yous think this is ok.OMG.They beat them,some actually to death
Do you?They tie the elephant up,tie up one leg so it gotta stand on 3 legs. Then they get a strap with sharp objects at the end then they beat it in its head area.Baby's they take off mom and do this and never let it see it's mom again.Some are beaten til they die.when you see an elephant giving people rides and pulling logs and painting, you better know they've been tortured. Circus animals also.Go watch a video and see how they beat them,your throw up,I cried for days.
@@maracole1975 He actually has a sharp nail between his fingers. These people are full of it! this is how they train elephants, I'm sorry it's in Spanish but it's worth watching ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCow/v-deo.html
They are pulling on the elephants ear the direction they want the brush to go. Do you see how intently the handler is looking at the painting? Come on people this is not conservation.
someone mentioned that the trainer was pinching the elephant's ear to guide it to draw. Seeing the video i believe the comment written in vietnamese/thai as there is option to translate it into chinese after the comment.
This no more significant than a parrot that can imitate pretty much any sound they hear or show dogs that can perform entire dance routines, with their trainer.
Everyone thinks it's a pin behind the elephants ear but I have a different theory. I think he's just signalling where the elephant should move the brush.
God created animals to be the possible partner of a human and found out the true partner would be a woman. Unfortunately those elephants where trained with torture, fear and a lot of pain :(
Any place that lets ppl ride elephants is not a good sanctuary. The seat sits on the weakest part of the elephant’s back and causes a lot of pain. The elephants are obviously intelligent, but it’s still unnatural for elephants to be painting.
ua-cam.com/video/PvTnJrqx0X8/v-deo.html Elephants are incapable of painting. They are cruelly trained as babies to interact with tourists. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCOW/v-deo.html
In my opinion, the elephant that paints a picture of an elephant does associate the image with the real thing very much the same as humans do. The most realistic images are, of course, photographs but the ability to recognize visual forms that evoke the idea of a particular object can consist of the most minimal elements, such as a few pencil strokes to invoke the impression of a cat, lets say. Once taught that he can paint, the elephant continues to learn and embraces the activity of "creating symbols." It provides mental stimulation. The symbols we humans have created (language) started as vital communication and cooperation, but soon developed further into expression for the sake of expression (art). There's no reason to not help the elephants along their evolutionary journey. Intelligent creatures are constantly evolving to become even more intelligent -- it's only natural.
That's your concern? Them elephants are so badly beaten so they give people rides and work for themI cried all day when I watched a video and seen how they beat and torture them.Elephants aren't like dogs,they can't be domesticated, ever!
Please stop being IGNORANT. There are so many documentaries showing that Suda and others never been tortured!! Just stick your head out of your echo chamber!
I believe this is all done by abuse to the elephants! This is WRONG by all counts! I love the elephants no matter what they do...They are beautiful and lovely animals who WANT their dignity and certainly deserve their dignity as well!
Watch how he grabs the elephants ear all the time, he twists to make it stop then manipulates the ear to tell the elephant where to move the trunk. Very simple trick, but how did they go about making it do this? Just like the physics fooled the scientist, they've fooled natgeo.
We are not forced to perform animal tricks then why these lovely creatures are forced to perform human activities. A person who cares for animals will love to watch its natural behaviour rather than a sad elephant forcefully doing all these things.
Why does that cruel man has no softness on his face? He's been pinching that poor elephants ear so hard after giving him paintbrush. Why doesn't he saty away?
Really if elephants could conceive of a painting it would be an elephant holding up a gigantic flower? Yeah that is something an elephant can relate to. The paintings are so “paint by number” people. Elephants are intelligent amazing mammals. If given a chance to paint this is what they would come up with-room decor?
Not one interview with an animal welfare expert. Only zoo employees. They mentioned about cruelty in the logging industry but not the tourism industry???
If teaching an elephant to paint is cruelty then you should know. There are people in this world who work day and night still not able to earn just to buy daily bread and butter isn't that crewelity ?
Unfortunately, money is needed to support these formerly abused animals. The intelligence of elephants has been documented. As with the great apes, elephants recognize the reflection in the mirror is themselves and not another elephant. They group with other elephants so are aware of their appearance.
Humans force kids to do things they are not good at so I don't see how this is "torture." As long as it uses positive reinforcement (of course!!!!) and if the keepers let elephants who dislike doing it not do it after a while of trying then this is definitely humane. However, I don't know if they use positive reinforcement.
How is the elephant aware if what it is painting? They r taught to paint that. The painting could be anything. Also the elephant is tortured. Sure elephants r relatively smart but they are also easier to control and happen to have trunks that can hold a paintbrush.
unless you can find evidence for the claim of no abuse and vice versa you don't really [know]. my personal rule of thumb: anything and everything presented in the media [especially social] should always, always, always be scrutinized bar none. [skepticism] is a virtue and we must be aware of our own biases. claims backed by demonstrable evidence and critical thinking is paramount. my personal bias on this is ..high probability of abuse considering the history of animals exploited for human entertainment.
very painful for elephants to hold the brush for long periods, they are trained with discipline and by withholding food from them; it is not a natural creative thing they like to do, it is forced upon them to earn money from tourists. do not support this practice. They are simply force trained to. do this.
Not cruelty, but control. Watch them put their hand on his ear and guide the elephant in the painting process. They cannot spell and have no gift for language. I am torn, but feel the elephants do enjoy the interaction and have no clue about the slavery they are in.
Well. I like to paint but I am not really good at it. If I think somebody push my hand I think it want get much better. So in my mind, they somehow like it and I believe the put a lot of affort in. But sure better than Josep Beuys.
I'm not sure that humans could learn as well if you pull their ears. When elephants are going to rule the earth because human beings make a big mess and anything today?
The mahout is doing all the work. Suda is just a tool. He guides her trunk to where he wants her brush to go. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCOW/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ibTJmYLLNOA/v-deo.html
There is a lot of propaganda videos going around. What he have in his hands can be a treat, a banana most likely. Bananas can look like nails depending how you hold them. He just letting her know that he has a treat.
ehem if this elephant been put through pain or suffering wheres the evidence on the truck? Hmmm also on top of that if u look at other videos of elephants their trunks move and quiver constantly and their trunk is a big muscle so its going to quiver and twitch and have muscle spasms. I mean look at us we quiver when we even try to stay still they have to hold up heavy things we don't but we still quiver. So i think you saying that this poor elephant is in pain or suffering is flawed Especially with out evidence. That elephant also paints amazing so maybe ur just jelly that elephant has more skill then most lol just saying.
In this video the man said, the elephant painted is what it was trained to do and it unable to paint a tiger. That is true every one know that seem he doesn't understand human and animal let me clarify, painting is belong to human's technic and the elephant is an animal, every one known why they been called animal. The animals they only known what they been doing in their life's living they have never seen things that human been doing, painting isn't easy, even through the human have been at school for many years till retired still can't paint, if the elephant had been trained to paint the flower and they automatically can paint you or me then to day we would have go to war with elephants and they won't been called animal. If some one able to trained a pig, dog, tiger, lion, bear, fish or any animals other then elephant and monkey to pain that person will be in the record that ever been before.
Poor Bob Ross they make stand up paint landscapes all day. beat brush frustration don't support crueltey to Bob Ross. they make him hold a brush. this what people sound like. when put human place of animals make sound even more silly.
You people are so two faced.You show elephants being tortured and then you got a camera watching them paint? I'm glad I'm seeing this so I won't be watching nature anymore.How rotten yous are.How evil to give there owners attention on TV,You lost a fan here.To think I donate to wild life and your so double standard
"I have to do nothing but give her a brush...(and pinch her ear to remind her of the good ol' torture days)"
@Russell White and be repeatably trampled to death by elephants the sick fucks!😠😬
@@annedevane9378 Give the elephants a glock in their trunk! 😎
Wow didn't see that coming, but I've watched other similar videos. They need no nudging to paint.
I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks moving the elephant's head depending on the strokes needed for the painting. Nudging l it up & down to get it to make a vertical line, or pulling it sideways for a horizontal line. Or to encourage spots & blobs tugging the ear forward, towards the canvas etc...
@@Carlene333 El asunto es pinta y pinta muy bien, una pregunta, si a ti te tiraran las orejas para pintar ¿lo harias asi de bien?
Look, that trainer even has the bull hook in his hand as he walks in.
it's always the same picture by Suda, may be she was made to practice to paint repeatedly til she had it just so? I'm wondering what's the truth behind all this?
I saw her do another similar one with a tree instead of roses but it was almost the same you I think you’re right.
Torture. The truth is tortured animals can do anything to avoid pain. Those human captors must go to jail, and then to hell
This is how they train. Pure evil abuse. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
These elephants arent painting of their own free will. Seriously look it up here on youtube. They are tortured, sleep deprived, beaten, and made to do what humans want. The person next to the elephant, who the elephant keeps handing the paint brush too, is literally digging into the elephants ear which is in turn controlling where the elephant puts the paint brush. Its awful. I bawled my eyes out when I found out what people do to these beautiful animals..
What's your point humans also repeatedly do stuff to learn
I think the people who are screaming "abuse" are a little misguided. The animal isn't getting hurt in any way. Is it something an elephant would naturally do, no, they're being guided by their handlers, but they live a good life. I'm ok with these people making money, i hope they can support their families and take good care of the animals. It also shows how much animals can do, and that we're all part of a big family of animals. Would i wish all of this wasn't necessary for people to realise how valuable all life is? Ofcourse. Would i wish everyone cared for the wellbeing of animals just because? Ofcourse. But that's not reality sadly enough. Most people only start caring when they can see something in the animal that reminds them of themselves. It's just the way it is and hopefully awareness of how amazing all life is will grow bit by bit.
That method is awful
To learn anything you have to been guided at first. Practice is the way to learn. Human is not naturally made to drive car or fly an aircraft. They learn.
You are incorrect. They first break down the animal in a very abusive process. Educate yourself. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html You are the misguided one.
@@aryamehta007007 I AGREE WITH YOU.
@@aryamehta007007 . They can learn. Only what they are meant to do in the wild. This is how they are trained. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCow/v-deo.html
These National Geographic people are blind to the pain that was used to train these elephants.
So disappointing
Look, m not trying to jump to conclusions, but it is incredibly sketchy that the trainer keeps his hand behind the elephant's ear. He might be pinching or sticking it with a pin whenever it messes up or thinks about stopping. He says it is for comfort or encouragement or whatever. Absolutely bull. How is it comforting to have a hand underneath your ear? Why would an elephant who wants to paint need comfort? Why would the ear be more comforting than anywhere else on the body that is in plain sight?
And as for whether the elephants understand what they'e doing, likely not. They've been trained to do the same thing repeatedly. The strokes are so memorized, and all the elephants draw in the same pattern: tree first, then elephant, then leaves/flowers on the tree, then grass, then name. Someone who is truly being creative won't follow the same rhythm each time. That's not to say that elephants are not creative, but they are clearly just doing what they've been trained to. It's like if you teach someone a song in another language. They may be able to sing the song perfectly, but that doesn't mean they have any idea of what it actually means...
Lol? Who are you to say animals can't appreciate music, or pictures, or emotions, etc,... This just shows that humans aren't this super being and everything else is beneath us. I deeply care for animals, and i was shocked that an elephant could do this and it made me realise even more that animals are awesome and we should be kind to them, even if they look alien to us.
Sophie Filo I agree
Sophie Filo they usually nail their ears
Doppe1ganger oof, another self-proclaimed animal lover who doesn’t know shit. Do your research. Getter taken away from their moms at young and they travel in herds. I see no herds for this animal. I also don’t see vast lands to roam freely on. Open your narrow view on the animal world. This is cruelty. You think one day an elephant decided to do this? There brains don’t function as ours. They may be intelligent but they probably don’t think of that as a simple elephant drawing. You think they like being taken away and exploited for profit? It’s like being sex trafficked.
They get* not Getter
I’m absolutely shocked and disappointed this is an NGEO video. Of course elephants are intelligent, sensitive, empathetic mammals. However, the fact remains they have been TRAINED to paint. The ABUSIVE, torturous, and sometimes deadly methods used to break and train elephants in Thailand, and elsewhere, are widely known and documented on videos and stills. Those are well guarded secrets the mahout don’t want out there, as it is their livelihood. The mahout has trained the elephant to move the brush in various directions in response to various cues to their ear, and the same picture is repeated multiple times a day, day in and day out.
Why on earth would an elephant need “comforting” via touching and moving it’s ear where it connects to the body (the most tender spot)? There are no videos of elephants painting that don’t have a man holding it’s ear. Not a single one. Why do you suppose that is?
To say this practice is horrible and not natural for the elephant in NO WAY demeans the intelligence or beautiful sentient beings that elephants are. But I do wish people would wake up to the cruel and manipulative ways of greedy people who abuse and exploit these, and other, wonderful beings in our animal kingdom.
We have been trained to write and read. Is not always torture.
Lisa Keitel, no, we don't trained to write and read. We learn to write and read.
no cruelty here...
U sound very paranoid.
@@silviachavez1541 that's just a point of view. For an extraterrestrial, you are trained the same as an elephant.
Lisa Keitel, or not. When an extraterrestial comes and gives us his point of view, we can be able to talk.
the elephants seem to enjoy it, and seem to be pleased & proud of their work.
iam proud of their work , 10/10
They don't enjoy this ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
@@tgrlilly yes, I have learned since then. I watched the video you sent. That is so horribly cruel to do that to them (dont you love the sharp hook?), on top of separating from its mother. They are terribly dependant on their mother. I want to touch one someday. Do you follow HERD and little Kanysia the baby albino elephant? These people protect elephants. They are on you tube.
Try getting a house cat to paint anything like that. The elephant whether is trained or not or is aware or not, it's still amazing!
I read an article where someone broke it down. According to the article the trainer is taping and pulling the elephants ear to "drive" the elephants trunk in the direction they want. You can see in the video the trainer grabs the elephant's ear, immediately after handing him the brush.
yep. And never leaving alone? or stand out of the elephant's body area. I think elephant understands something, but this trainer not gives us to see and understand what exactly elephant can draw himself.
Whatever! Could you train a elephant to pain? You can't teach yourself to pain. Just appreciate the trainer and the elephant.
Noy is twisting the fark out of Hung's ear... not sugar & love....
I'm really disappointed that Nat Geo would do a piece on this. These animals are often abused as they are trained to do this. Elephants are not on this earth for our amusement. I thought we were all waking up to that.
It is amazing that elephants can manipulate a brush so well. The instruction on what to paint comes from the trainer and is the result of a great deal of practice and repetition. I doubt that the elephants could do this without their trainers standing next to them, prompting and giving direction for every stroke. Still quite amazing, though!
Not amazing. Pure cruelty. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
I don’t think for a minute that National Geographic would endorse this if there were cruelty involved. Not for a minute!
Maybe think again
Then we're all nuts cause it's them I'll not watch nagged anymore.Or donate when they advertise
It is a sad way to make money on tourists.
In the words of Ultron: "You are incredibly naive".
Well maybe you should think again. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
AMAZING!
Wish they showed the elephant from different angles to see if a trainer is standing by its side guiding its movements with the paintbrush.
Look at the trainer standing behind her left ear with his hand behind her ear. He is pressing his finger on the place that he exerted pain during her training.
These elephants are tortured since their very young days:
1. They have no more tasks
2. Someone is permanently hiding behind their legs, touching them viciously
3. Please read the other comments
4. There are scientific experiments on apes, where one ape recognized the portrait of a human, only, for an elephant to be able to draw complicated shapes, this would implies having abstract notions as circle, rectangle etc. and combinations of them, which are hard even for a child
5. If you have a strong heart, you can watch the episodes of Memories de elefantes (2014).
6. I think solutions can be found, like that: a very rich person or organization buys all the elephants and a big park for them, where some young volunteers will take good care of the animals (mainly using drones). For the torsionaries, he sets a course on the values of human kindness, and then finds them potential jobs (eg, greeting card designer).
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NOT TRUE. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS
VIDEOED AND NO CRUELNESS.
SOME PLACES ARE CRUEL. . BUT NOT THIS ANIMAL RESERVE.
IT IS TRULY SAD WHEN CRUELTY ON PEOPLE OR ANIMALS EXERTED.😢
Notice how he grabs the ear of the elephant and appears to squeeze it. It’s a warning to the elephant. While training in the morning and evening he’ll have something he pricks the elephants ear with that causes pain so that the elephant later in front of tourists paints as it’s been trained to do. Trained with pain
Towards the end..I see the trainer outing his hand behind the elephants ear as if he guides his trunk movement
Wish they showed the elephant from different angles in this video. I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks slightly moving the elephant's head up & down or sideways or tugging its ear forward towards the canvas to encourage spots & blobs
depending on the strokes needed for that particular painting.
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This amazing, intelligent- albeit, exploited animal is performing an elaborate trick. It doesn't paint a sky-next or a river-after that. It always paints an elephant holding a flower, or whatever it has been taught to paint, by repetition, and with the aid of reward, or possibly punishment. It is pretty remarkable when you first see it, but one wonders at what cost does
the elephant learns to do this?
ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html This is the cost
These elephant is abusively trained to do this. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCow/v-deo.html
How much does the elephant trainer control the movement of the elephant's painting, I noticed the trainer with his hand behind the elephant's ear, perhaps signaling, where the paint strokes should go.
You're right! Watch to see how they do it ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCow/v-deo.html
He has a sharp nail between his fingers.
Wish they showed the elephant from different angles in this video. I’ve seen a video where a trainer is standing beside an elephant holding on to its tusks slightly moving the elephant's head up & down or sideways or tugging its ear forward towards the canvas to encourage spots & blobs
depending on the strokes needed for that particular painting.
I'm not sure after reading the comments,if the trainer controls them but either way if the trainer controls them they still can paint
That's just Awesome! Also, the money from these paintings, hopefully, would go to help support the people in the village, which to me, is great!
The money would've probably gone to the elephant owners' *cough* abusers *cough* pockets
this whole thing is very sad and upsetting :(
Elephant Artists? Here’s Why Making an Elephant Paint is Cruel, Not Cute
This is how they make them paint. Total abuse for these poor creatures.ua-cam.com/video/62N9bldkTMY/v-deo.html
Tina Jeanette you dumb bitch
Jack Ros false. That’s how you break a wild elephant. These elephants are born and raised here. Try again.
70 dislikes are giraffes 🦒 that can't paint better than elephant
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These two remind me of the two from the first Jurassic Park when they first see the dinos and they get all stunned .. "They do move in heards.." I can admit I'd be stunned too
These elephants are tortured since their very young days:
1. They have no more tasks
2. Someone is permanently hiding behind their legs, touching them viciously
3. Please read the other comments
4. There are scientific experiments on apes, where one ape recognized the portrait of a human, only, for an elephant to be able to draw complicated shapes, this would implies having abstract notions as circle, rectangle etc. and combinations of them, which are hard even for a child
5. If you have a strong heart, you can watch the episodes of Memories de elefantes (2014).
6. I think solutions can be found, like that: a very rich person or organization buys all the elephants and a big park for them, where some young volunteers will take good care of the animals (mainly using drones). For the torsionaries, he sets a course on the values of human kindness, and then finds them potential jobs (eg, greeting card designer).
give that elephant some cold beer!
It s amazing
Human beings are so stupid and naive. If you want us to believe these beautiful animals are not abused, tell the trainer to not walk in with a F'ING BULLHOOK.
prove that the bullhook hurts an animal with a thick hide and isn't just a signal device and also show that the person in question is using it in that manner first
This is amazing to watch. But I'am waiting to see the elephant erase the canvas with white and consciously make a correction. ! that would be even better
To all of you who are saying these elephants were not abused to paint. Go to the wild and find all the wild elephants in the world and give them a paint brush and a canvas. See how many will paint for you and how many will ignore or crush you.
I want to see vidio of training them to paint to see how it works. Most animals are motivated by food. If kindness then it's cool,but if not then it s sad.
Alisa Lauzon they are twisting their nerves behind their ear to make them paint. They are abusing the elephant.
This isn't a dog.Elephants can't be domesticated.Them elephants are so badly beaten.Go watch a video and see how they get domesticated. Man people scare me.Yous think this is ok.OMG.They beat them,some actually to death
Do you?They tie the elephant up,tie up one leg so it gotta stand on 3 legs. Then they get a strap with sharp objects at the end then they beat it in its head area.Baby's they take off mom and do this and never let it see it's mom again.Some are beaten til they die.when you see an elephant giving people rides and pulling logs and painting, you better know they've been tortured. Circus animals also.Go watch a video and see how they beat them,your throw up,I cried for days.
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@@maracole1975 He actually has a sharp nail between his fingers. These people are full of it! this is how they train elephants, I'm sorry it's in Spanish but it's worth watching ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCow/v-deo.html
They are pulling on the elephants ear the direction they want the brush to go. Do you see how intently the handler is looking at the painting? Come on people this is not conservation.
I thought the commentator explained the ear handling as providing support and encouragement while the elephant paints. Gosh! Listening helps a lot.
someone mentioned that the trainer was pinching the elephant's ear to guide it to draw. Seeing the video i believe the comment written in vietnamese/thai as there is option to translate it into chinese after the comment.
This no more significant than a parrot that can imitate pretty much any sound they hear or show dogs that can perform entire dance routines, with their trainer.
Weird how the trainer is always putting his hand behind the elephants ear
most Nice and proudly
Everyone thinks it's a pin behind the elephants ear but I have a different theory. I think he's just signalling where the elephant should move the brush.
God created an animal to be more wise and far better than humans. Yes training, but a human can't do this. Let's enjoy the moment.
God created animals to be the possible partner of a human and found out the true partner would be a woman. Unfortunately those elephants where trained with torture, fear and a lot of pain :(
one day. im gunna become the president and stop all of this for every animal
Could you hurry up a bit please?
You’re not becoming the president with that grammar
@Russell White Do you think I’m talking about the animal? It’s a fucking joke dipshit, obviously I care about the animal.
Any place that lets ppl ride elephants is not a good sanctuary. The seat sits on the weakest part of the elephant’s back and causes a lot of pain. The elephants are obviously intelligent, but it’s still unnatural for elephants to be painting.
I love the retro tech and UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/PvTnJrqx0X8/v-deo.html Elephants are incapable of painting. They are cruelly trained as babies to interact with tourists. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCOW/v-deo.html
look at the white parts of their skin, its not pigmentation those are scars
In my opinion, the elephant that paints a picture of an elephant does associate the image with the real thing very much the same as humans do. The most realistic images are, of course, photographs but the ability to recognize visual forms that evoke the idea of a particular object can consist of the most minimal elements, such as a few pencil strokes to invoke the impression of a cat, lets say. Once taught that he can paint, the elephant continues to learn and embraces the activity of "creating symbols." It provides mental stimulation. The symbols we humans have created (language) started as vital communication and cooperation, but soon developed further into expression for the sake of expression (art). There's no reason to not help the elephants along their evolutionary journey. Intelligent creatures are constantly evolving to become even more intelligent -- it's only natural.
That's your concern? Them elephants are so badly beaten so they give people rides and work for themI cried all day when I watched a video and seen how they beat and torture them.Elephants aren't like dogs,they can't be domesticated, ever!
He don't embrace anything,he wants to be in the wild.genes people like you wow,grow a brain
its true but they were TORTUREd to do that
Edmund Coman reading this comment TORTUREd me
Please stop being IGNORANT. There are so many documentaries showing that Suda and others never been tortured!! Just stick your head out of your echo chamber!
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But who was the first person who thought an elephant can be taught to paint? Its audacious, oh preposterous!
I believe this is all done by abuse to the elephants! This is WRONG by all counts! I love the elephants no matter what they do...They are beautiful and lovely animals who WANT their dignity and certainly deserve their dignity as well!
JKat 99 not everything is abuse, Kat.
@@dylanwebster2656 Stay naive and blind then or... ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
@sondra cotto this was 3 years ago mate, my opinion has since changed
so sad 😔
Watch how he grabs the elephants ear all the time, he twists to make it stop then manipulates the ear to tell the elephant where to move the trunk. Very simple trick, but how did they go about making it do this? Just like the physics fooled the scientist, they've fooled natgeo.
Horrible animal abuse.
We are not forced to perform animal tricks then why these lovely creatures are forced to perform human activities. A person who cares for animals will love to watch its natural behaviour rather than a sad elephant forcefully doing all these things.
Why does that cruel man has no softness on his face? He's been pinching that poor elephants ear so hard after giving him paintbrush. Why doesn't he saty away?
Really if elephants could conceive of a painting it would be an elephant holding up a gigantic flower? Yeah that is something an elephant can relate to. The paintings are so “paint by number” people. Elephants are intelligent amazing mammals. If given a chance to paint this is what they would come up with-room decor?
They’d probably paint themselves crushing their abusive trainers to death LOL
Not one interview with an animal welfare expert. Only zoo employees. They mentioned about cruelty in the logging industry but not the tourism industry???
Could it actually be true that the mainstream media has been lying to us all these decades?....
If teaching an elephant to paint is cruelty then you should know. There are people in this world who work day and night still not able to earn just to buy daily bread and butter isn't that crewelity ?
Unfortunately, money is needed to support these formerly abused animals. The intelligence of elephants has been documented. As with the great apes, elephants recognize the reflection in the mirror is themselves and not another elephant. They group with other elephants so are aware of their appearance.
It's not cruel. If she doesn't want to paint you can't make her.
She is being forced to do this.
Cruelty Disguised.
Stop patronizing elephant rides or paintings. They are not for entertainment, rather they suppose to live in wildlife. That’s a clear animal abuse!
Jezzette Loayon what at all about this is abuse?
Green Axis Space Agency wake up and grow up
Alex tell me
Humans force kids to do things they are not good at so I don't see how this is "torture." As long as it uses positive reinforcement (of course!!!!) and if the keepers let elephants who dislike doing it not do it after a while of trying then this is definitely humane.
However, I don't know if they use positive reinforcement.
If it makes them money they don't care ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
How is the elephant aware if what it is painting? They r taught to paint that. The painting could be anything. Also the elephant is tortured. Sure elephants r relatively smart but they are also easier to control and happen to have trunks that can hold a paintbrush.
they said she wasn't being abused
unless you can find evidence for the claim of no abuse and vice versa you don't really [know]. my personal rule of thumb: anything and everything presented in the media [especially social] should always, always, always be scrutinized bar none. [skepticism] is a virtue and we must be aware of our own biases. claims backed by demonstrable evidence and critical thinking is paramount.
my personal bias on this is ..high probability of abuse considering the history of animals exploited for human entertainment.
They have been lied to.
Ofcourse you can force an elephant to paint whit hurting it as long as it "needs to" and no we can't see do they hurt them only whit this video.
So. It’s a parlor trick
You can lead an elephant to the canvas but you can't make it paint.
It's so fake 😒
Fake news show the animal painting the whole picture?
very painful for elephants to hold the brush for long periods, they are trained with discipline and by withholding food from them; it is not a natural creative thing they like to do, it is forced upon them to earn money from tourists. do not support this practice. They are simply force trained to. do this.
Not cruelty, but control. Watch them put their hand on his ear and guide the elephant in the painting process. They cannot spell and have no gift for language. I am torn, but feel the elephants do enjoy the interaction and have no clue about the slavery they are in.
I love ng(National Geographic)don’t you
They have been lied to. These animals are trained cruelly.
I would have think that they have learn ua-cam.com/video/PvTnJrqx0X8/v-deo.html
*TORTURE!!!!*
can they draw peanuts?
Well. I like to paint but I am not really good at it. If I think somebody push my hand I think it want get much better. So in my mind, they somehow like it and I believe the put a lot of affort in. But sure better than Josep Beuys.
Hoax!!! Show multiple camera angles
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Holly shit that was along time ago
I'm not sure that humans could learn as well if you pull their ears. When elephants are going to rule the earth because human beings make a big mess and anything today?
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The mahout is doing all the work. Suda is just a tool. He guides her trunk to where he wants her brush to go. ua-cam.com/video/s9GIzRPWCOW/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ibTJmYLLNOA/v-deo.html
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There is a lot of propaganda videos going around. What he have in his hands can be a treat, a banana most likely. Bananas can look like nails depending how you hold them. He just letting her know that he has a treat.
You're in denial. I'm sorry that there is more evil in this world than you would like to believe, but you need to wake up to the truth eventually.
ehem if this elephant been put through pain or suffering wheres the evidence on the truck? Hmmm also on top of that if u look at other videos of elephants their trunks move and quiver constantly and their trunk is a big muscle so its going to quiver and twitch and have muscle spasms. I mean look at us we quiver when we even try to stay still they have to hold up heavy things we don't but we still quiver. So i think you saying that this poor elephant is in pain or suffering is flawed Especially with out evidence. That elephant also paints amazing so maybe ur just jelly that elephant has more skill then most lol just saying.
You jealous of this? I'm not. Maybe you're just like watching cruelty. ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
In this video the man said, the elephant painted is what it was trained to do and it unable to paint a tiger. That is true every one know that seem he doesn't understand human and animal let me clarify, painting is belong to human's technic and the elephant is an animal, every one known why they been called animal. The animals they only known what they been doing in their life's living they have never seen things that human been doing, painting isn't easy, even through the human have been at school for many years till retired still can't paint, if the elephant had been trained to paint the flower and they automatically can paint you or me then to day we would have go to war with elephants and they won't been called animal. If some one able to trained a pig, dog, tiger, lion, bear, fish or any animals other then elephant and monkey to pain that person will be in the record that ever been before.
Poor Bob Ross they make stand up paint landscapes all day. beat brush frustration don't support crueltey to Bob Ross. they make him hold a brush. this what people sound like. when put human place of animals make sound even more silly.
Picasso..@ his Best.¥
You people are so two faced.You show elephants being tortured and then you got a camera watching them paint? I'm glad I'm seeing this so I won't be watching nature anymore.How rotten yous are.How evil to give there owners attention on TV,You lost a fan here.To think I donate to wild life and your so double standard
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How do y’all know if they were abused to do this????
Common sense
@@blissfulbaboon Good sense is never common...
because many videos and like this. Also because I've spoken to former circus elephant handlers ua-cam.com/video/sMGWnbFp3-8/v-deo.html
@@SKYLANDBAK why y’all flaming 11 year old me 😭
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