India's Nilgiri-class Ship Brief

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  • The Nilgiri class warship is a class of advanced stealth guided missile frigates being developed for the Indian Navy as part of Project 17A. These warships are an enhancement of the earlier Shivalik class and incorporate advanced technologies to improve stealth, survivability, and combat capabilities.
    Displacement: 6,670 tons.
    Length: 149 meters.
    Beam: 17.8 meters.
    Draft: 5.3 meters.
    Propulsion:
    Configuration: Combined Diesel and Gas (CODAG) system.
    Engines: Two General Electric LM2500+ gas turbines and two MAN 12V28/33D STC diesel engines.
    Speed: Capable of speeds up to 30 knots.
    Range: Approximately 5,500 nautical miles at 18 knots.
    Armament:
    Missiles:
    BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.
    Barak 8 surface-to-air missiles.
    Guns:
    One OTO Melara 76 mm naval gun.
    Two AK-630 close-in weapon systems (CIWS).
    Torpedoes: Torpedo launchers for anti-submarine warfare.
    Sensors and Radar:
    Radar Systems:
    MF-STAR (Multi-Function Surveillance and Threat Alert Radar) for air and surface search.
    L-band radar for long-range surveillance.
    Sonar Systems: Advanced towed array sonar and hull-mounted sonar for underwater detection.
    Electronic Warfare: Comprehensive electronic warfare suite including jammers and decoys.
    Aviation Facilities:
    Helicopter: Capacity to operate two helicopters, typically the HAL Dhruv or the Westland Sea King.
    Hangar and Flight Deck: Equipped with a hangar and flight deck for helicopter operations.
    Crew and Accommodation:
    Crew: Approximately 250 personnel, including officers and sailors.
    Accommodation: Modern facilities for crew comfort and operational efficiency.
    Additional Features:
    Stealth Design: Reduced radar cross-section through advanced hull design and use of composite materials.
    Automation: Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS) for enhanced automation and reduced crew workload.
    Combat Management System: Advanced Combat Management System (CMS) for effective threat evaluation and response.
    The Nilgiri class frigates are designed to perform multiple roles, including anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-air warfare (AAW), and anti-surface warfare (ASuW), making them a versatile asset in the Indian Navy's fleet.
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  • @M167A1
    @M167A1 22 дні тому +80

    Nice to see somebody getting new frigates

    • @moazamkhan
      @moazamkhan 22 дні тому +4

      It is nice

    • @ochat2010
      @ochat2010 22 дні тому +2

      How’s the navy gunna steal the 10bil if they build em??? Huh? HUH?

    • @Ibrahimarm
      @Ibrahimarm 21 день тому

      ​@ochat2010 They make em worse than they're supposed to be and pocket the money, or overpay for the labor

    • @undertamker9606
      @undertamker9606 21 день тому +3

      All 7 frigates are already launched and waiting to get commision

    • @LeonAust
      @LeonAust 21 день тому

      @@undertamker9606 commission not quite, most latter ships awaiting to be finishing fitted out.

  • @sachair2701
    @sachair2701 22 дні тому +81

    Chinese assisting India for building weapon systems, which are essentially meant to be used against them, India's top rival in the region, how does that work?
    DERL is part of DRDO and the Shakti EW is a completely indigenous system

    • @arkadeepkundu4729
      @arkadeepkundu4729 21 день тому

      Yeah the Chinese won't help anyone build ships that are probably going to be used against them. I think he means Israel not China.

    • @ornerylurker8296
      @ornerylurker8296 21 день тому

      More likely than you think. Consider for example that to sell anything, for example IPhones and game consoles in China you have to fork over detailed schematics on how to build them. It’s almost certainly a ploy to build trust while learning all of an enemy’s potential strengths and weaknesses to learn how to counter them.

    • @nitinkumar29
      @nitinkumar29 21 день тому

      @@ornerylurker8296 Indians are not braindead, no military will be that braindead. BEL is doing incredible work in sensors and IC. Chinese quality is also unreliable and whatever they built is falling apart.

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 21 день тому +8

      ​@@ornerylurker8296oh patents?
      Like China doesn't have Copy Right😂

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 21 день тому +6

      @@ornerylurker8296 yeah, this isn't an iPhone we're speaking of, tbh.

  • @PatrickBatefan
    @PatrickBatefan 22 дні тому +51

    Heavyweight torpedo Varunastra range is 50 km & max speed 50 knots & Chinese didn't provide any sensor for EW system.

    • @manoharjishnu2009
      @manoharjishnu2009 22 дні тому +14

      Out of all, assuming it being Chinese....nearly spilled my coffee.

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 22 дні тому +2

      @@manoharjishnu2009 I nearly spat out my wine! XD

    • @Archer89201
      @Archer89201 21 день тому +1

      European and Israeli help in many EW suite development

    • @timetraveller8895
      @timetraveller8895 20 днів тому

      European? Nah Israeli maybe.

    • @k9killer221
      @k9killer221 20 днів тому

      That's nearly identical performance as ADCAP Mk 48

  • @IndyRider
    @IndyRider 21 день тому +36

    A couple of corrections here:
    1) There is no Chinese assistance involved as they are adverseries in the Indian ocean theatre.
    2) INS Vikrant design is not influenced by Kuznetsov, but a homegrown design. Kuzentsov was a very old design.

    • @Silent_Shishya
      @Silent_Shishya 20 днів тому +1

      The problem is that the lift of INS Vikrant was designed around Mig-29K. As a whole, even if the ship is not entirely influenced by Kuznetsov, some factors are straight up centred around Russian equipment

    • @IndyRider
      @IndyRider 20 днів тому

      @@Silent_Shishya True. Even though we only had Mig29s in the navy at that time,it seems like a miscalculation on the planner's part to not think about any future aircraft we might induct throughout the life time of this carrier.

    • @easonhuang7117
      @easonhuang7117 19 днів тому +1

      INS vikrant is Italian design and is inferior to Kuznetsov

    • @kishorbalachandran3050
      @kishorbalachandran3050 15 днів тому

      @@easonhuang7117 Italian design?😂.

    • @craigkdillon
      @craigkdillon 12 днів тому

      @@kishorbalachandran3050 Yes. Italian design.
      You can tell by the racing stripes and leather seats.

  • @corvanphoenix
    @corvanphoenix 22 дні тому +41

    These ships look outstanding. India is making big advances in capability in many areas. The fact that this is mostly indigenous is all you need to know about how serious they are about their future.

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 21 день тому +3

      Mostly indigenous? What parts. The engines, gearboxes, generators, electrics? The sensors? The guns? The missiles?
      It’s ok to use other people’s tech, most nations do. So long as you have spares and can do what you want with them.

    • @tigerland4328
      @tigerland4328 21 день тому +3

      "mostly indigenous" is pushing it a little

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 21 день тому +2

      ​@@Statueshop297Mostly Indigenous.
      "Mostly"

    • @timetraveller8895
      @timetraveller8895 20 днів тому +3

      @@Statueshop297 electrics, sensors, gun, missiles all are licensed products. Made in india.
      Some are indigenous like missile casing, seeker's, single/dual pulse solid rocket motor, Warhead, electronic warfare suite, torpedos,

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 20 днів тому +1

      @@timetraveller8895 licensed products aren’t indigenous.
      I was responding to someone saying that the ships are mostly indigenous. I think it’s great the progress India is making with technology. The more people that try to come up with the solutions to problems the more chances someone with work out how to do it most efficiently and cheaper

  • @pramodkb6635
    @pramodkb6635 22 дні тому +60

    - India and China are arch rivals, India is fast tracking it's defence procurements just to arm itself against china, no way china is helping India in anything and Indians dont want it too.
    - The new variant of BrahMos would be used on these frigates which have a 500km range.

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 21 день тому

      Yeah, I was about to press x for doubt on the Chinese help theory as well.
      That ship has sailed some time ago and (fortunately) never docked.

    • @yashasvisingh6694
      @yashasvisingh6694 21 день тому +2

      New Variant is 900 km

    • @viveksorathiya2057
      @viveksorathiya2057 21 день тому

      Newer ones are 800-900 range

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 21 день тому

      Arch rivals?
      Like we never were .
      Its CCP a threat to all

    • @Red-90
      @Red-90 9 днів тому

      Saying China and India are rivals is an exaggeration because India is not even in the same league as China. China is comparable to the US.

  • @danlegris387
    @danlegris387 21 день тому +18

    Canada has spent close to $7billion already on our CSC and we haven't even cut 1 piece of steel yet

    • @Alice-7777
      @Alice-7777 21 день тому +6

      Corruption

    • @Karthagast
      @Karthagast 20 днів тому

      Sounds familiar. It seems Canada is imitating the mismanagement of Constellation Class frigates proyect in USA. Even the amount of money spent in having basically nothing yet, $7 billion, is similar. But, hey, USA already cut 1 piece of steel, no more, just 1.
      USA is ahead. LOL

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 18 днів тому +1

      Sad Constellation class noises.

    • @danlegris387
      @danlegris387 17 днів тому +1

      @@jeffreyskoritowski4114 We turned down a $30billion fixed cost bid on the Fremm including an early delivery clause, now we're staring down a $100bill project for 15 ships and we won't see the 1st one until 2034 and that is without more delays. I would say the Constellation Class is still making us look bad, India is making both projects look bad

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 22 дні тому +38

    7:00 From my research, India has deployed the heavyweight. They actually just successfully tested a submarine launched variant of it last year. So, it seems like it's good to go as they're already working on variants. They built $180 million worth of them, apparently.

    • @sachair2701
      @sachair2701 22 дні тому

      yup

    • @alexmcaruthur6966
      @alexmcaruthur6966 21 день тому

      @@sachair2701heavy weight torpedo can also be launched by supersonic rocket called smart range is 650km

    • @anantr99
      @anantr99 20 днів тому +3

      @@alexmcaruthur6966 No, the SMART system uses the Shyena light-weight torpedo. Rocket-launched HWTs are currently in the conceptual phase, but whether or not they come up is still not decided.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 18 днів тому

      $180m = 50 missiles.

    • @anantr99
      @anantr99 18 днів тому

      @@danielch6662 180 million USD would mean far more than 50 missiles. We would be looking at a number closer to (or perhaps even over) 100. The SMART system is considered to be fairly cheap.
      The price tag you are using is the price tag of the BrahMos. The SMART missiles are far cheaper.

  • @ejwalsh877
    @ejwalsh877 22 дні тому +24

    Indian armed forces have an interesting approach to their procurement. Cherry picking and combining systems from various nations.

    • @ornerylurker8296
      @ornerylurker8296 21 день тому

      If it works, it works, so it can probably work well if put together right. Better than the constant thievery and cheapness of Chinese knockoffs

    • @Adi-bo5do
      @Adi-bo5do 12 днів тому

      it works for the navy but is a terrible fit for the Airforce and kinda works for the Indian Army

  • @k9killer221
    @k9killer221 22 дні тому +25

    From an overall socio-economic perspective, India is quickly evolving into a very powerful and prosperous nation. It's reached some economic takeoff point where factors of production all start combining into a spiral of rapid advancement and accelerating direct foreign investment.

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 21 день тому

      It would be so awesome to have a power-house like China,
      but without the dystopian commie dictatorship part.

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 21 день тому +4

      India has a lot of work to do with poverty etc. India is a large nation and has potential to be a good leading nation. Upholding and enforcing international rules and laws while having input into making the world a peaceful place.

    • @k9killer221
      @k9killer221 21 день тому +1

      @@Statueshop297 Agree. With respect to the rapid advancement, for example, the Indian "middle class" is bigger than the entire population of the United States.

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 21 день тому +1

      It'll need to be more politically stable before it gets more foreign investment. The current Hindu nationalism trend is what I'm referring to.

    • @ap-dk5yw
      @ap-dk5yw 20 днів тому

      @corvanphoenix its simply a construct put forward by news outlets

  • @gavinhammond1778
    @gavinhammond1778 22 дні тому +28

    Excellent presentation, India isn t the poor cousin anymore, clearly. Thanks for the content.

    • @josephpalack1440
      @josephpalack1440 22 дні тому +3

      They still are. $2500 GDP per head. Their navy has a lot of catching up to do too.

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 22 дні тому +7

      @@josephpalack1440 yes, and we're set to be 3x this per capita figure within a decade. (:

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 21 день тому

      Try telling that to the millions of people struggling without basic services and living standards in India.
      It’s a country of contrasts and partly it’s wealth divide is what let’s India accomplish things at a lower price while allowing the top 10% to profit.
      As we have seen with the farmer protests etc the poor lower class can be a powerful force when they want to.

    • @josephpalack1440
      @josephpalack1440 21 день тому +1

      @@Statueshop297 Yup the poor in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar voted against the BJP this time around and Modi is weakened as a result, despite all of the religious polarization he tried to stir up.
      90% of the Indians commenting on UA-cam in English are wealthy and upper caste. The rest of the country has a long way to go and is just now starting to receive basic services. In aggregate, the country is where China was in like 2007-08.

    • @Humble_Balaclava
      @Humble_Balaclava 21 день тому

      @@josephpalack1440 Just stfubot, we can spot an ABDUL in SUIT, Still it's MODI 3.0 with all the MINORITY CRYING

  • @Humble_Balaclava
    @Humble_Balaclava 21 день тому +19

    CORRECTION: Chinese Supplying Sensors to Indian Navy, Mate they are adversaries for us, how can they help with sensors?, It's like saying Iran provides radar equipment to Israel.
    You being a USN veteran, we really respect your take on our Naval assets and most of them are correct, but sorry to say, there are also many mistakes in your analysis. Until now, we have not seen an unbiased and balanced analysis from commenters from the West/EU of our armed forces, whether they be Army, Navy, or Air force.

    • @kishorbalachandran3050
      @kishorbalachandran3050 15 днів тому +1

      Yes.

    • @user-cc3pi3ir2y
      @user-cc3pi3ir2y 5 днів тому

      LoL... Everyone knows India uses plenty of Chinese stuff.. even the fabric of ur army is Chinese made... Btw tea is fantastic ❤

    • @Humble_Balaclava
      @Humble_Balaclava 5 днів тому

      @@user-cc3pi3ir2y Lol PORKBOT, at least we can pay for it, something even the US buys from China and..... But still your Tea can't beat, 92000 Porki Soldiers Surrendering in their UUNDERWWARE.💀
      Btw, do you need some Atta?

  • @Shubhabratabanerjee
    @Shubhabratabanerjee 20 днів тому +9

    1) All of the 32 Barak-8s in the ship have a range of 100 Km. You are confusing Barak-1 with Barak-8.
    2) Latest iteration of the BrahMos has a range of 900 Km. It doesn't have an IR Seeker.

  • @abingdonboy
    @abingdonboy 21 день тому +5

    The Indian navy has already tested the Brahmos out to >700km range, 290 was a limit imposed by MCTR which doesn’t apply anymore

  • @Gr8putin
    @Gr8putin 22 дні тому +19

    India never said Brahmos is India only project in fact name of missile is from rivers of India Russia. What India did is took Russian missile absorbed the technology slowly swapped Russian parts with Indian parts made anti ship missile to make it work in other modes added few dive modes and inducted heavily in numbers

    • @avinashgore6258
      @avinashgore6258 18 днів тому +1

      On BrahMis. Next version called NG has a range of 400 KMs, speed approaching Mach 3. This missile cuts large surface combatants in two pieces by Kinetic Energy and explosives do not matter. In the last stage it takes S maneuver to dodge CIWS and is sea skimming at 2-3 meters and very difficult to track, and counter. Indians have made huge progress in Missile technology in last 20 years. Brahma’s is at the cutting edge of anti ship technology.

    • @anirecapped.
      @anirecapped. 16 днів тому +1

      @@avinashgore6258 At least try to get the name right!!

    • @kishorbalachandran3050
      @kishorbalachandran3050 15 днів тому

      Brahmos is based on russian missile at the beginning but India upgraded this missiles since then. Now it is better than that russian version.

  • @Persian-Immortal
    @Persian-Immortal 22 дні тому +37

    Hi Aaron, How are you?
    Awesome video!
    The Chinese wouldn't have helped India with the ESM sensors.
    India and China aren't exactly friends. I mean, both countries could go to war at any moment.

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 22 дні тому

      Oh I would argue that India and China are effectively in a cold war. China occupies part of India after their 1963 war.

    • @sachair2701
      @sachair2701 22 дні тому +6

      precisely...most of the weapons Indian military is building or importing are targeted against china. besides Shakti is a completely indigenous system.

    • @nitinkumar29
      @nitinkumar29 21 день тому +1

      Exactly!

  • @rowon8249
    @rowon8249 22 дні тому +15

    India represents a significant advantage for the United States in its competition with China., hope USA wont go back to what they did with India in 1971,

    • @mihirshetye4624
      @mihirshetye4624 21 день тому

      facts

    • @JuneBaby01
      @JuneBaby01 20 днів тому

      Then India should quit trying to ride the fence...either you're a friend or you're less than a friend, and India is painting it's own self into a corner by it's actions. India declared itself not a friend of the USA when it joined the BRICS nations, and united with these enemy nations in their efforts to undermine the U.S.

    • @igs_
      @igs_ 20 днів тому +1

      Thank you for recognizing this, very few of us know what we did back then in other parts of the world. It's a shame because if it wasn't for that we'd most likely be allies by now

  • @akhilyugesh
    @akhilyugesh 21 день тому +6

    Chinese help for sensors on indian ships is really hilarious!

  • @RahulDevanarayanan
    @RahulDevanarayanan 22 дні тому +28

    Never thought I’d say this but for once as an American I’m jealous of an Indian procurement program.
    Sure wish we were pumping out constellations at the volume we need to deter or win conflict in the SCS

    • @LeonAust
      @LeonAust 22 дні тому +2

      They have yet to complete any Nilgiri class as are under construction and the design start was way back in 2012. The Constellation was chosen in 2020 is entirely different ship vastly superior weapon systems and sensors with network centric.
      Nilgiri class have 32 short to med range missiles while the Constellation has 32 cells but all can be quad packed and if fitted with the same range SAM as Barak can take a theoretical 128 missiles, although highly unlikely.
      Remember it was only in 2021 that design was started on the Constellation class I think people must give the chance for US ship yards to perform before being critical.
      Nilgiri class were conceived a full 8 years before the Constellations.

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 22 дні тому +6

      @@LeonAust the first of the Nilgiris are to be handed over to the IN this August. There was mild delay because the Navy asked for some changes amidst construction just last year.

    • @milkshake1993
      @milkshake1993 21 день тому +2

      ​@@LeonAust US shipyards havent been performing well in at least a decade or two, how much longer are we going to be waiting?

    • @viveksorathiya2057
      @viveksorathiya2057 21 день тому +1

      When delivery starts from this August, we will get 1 ship each year from delivery,and there will be follow on order too

    • @RahulDevanarayanan
      @RahulDevanarayanan 21 день тому +5

      @@LeonAust i totally get that the constellation has some design advantages - but hulls in the water will always beat no hulls in the water. Military strategy is built strategy.

  • @distroyer06djsn86
    @distroyer06djsn86 22 дні тому +105

    You'd have perun make your slides? Lol

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 22 дні тому +8

      Yeah that caught my eye too lol.

    • @Persian-Immortal
      @Persian-Immortal 22 дні тому +7

      Aaron makes his videos side slides for a really long time.

    • @bestestusername
      @bestestusername 22 дні тому +1

      Probably the same program, his slides have looked similar for ages now

    • @billygoatgruff3536
      @billygoatgruff3536 22 дні тому

      ​@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 Seeth Russian simp.

    • @michael_083
      @michael_083 22 дні тому +6

      This is a generic template in PowerPoint.
      No shade intended for calling out that it is generic, content > form.

  • @bestestusername
    @bestestusername 19 днів тому +1

    Very decent amount of weapons for a frigate, good to see nowadays.

  • @JanverPunzalan
    @JanverPunzalan 22 дні тому +7

    I hope you can feature the new Philippine Corvette acquisition. From South Korea.. Great Video, Very Informative!... GOOD JOB!!

  • @rohitb5834
    @rohitb5834 21 день тому +2

    Nilgiri Class will most likely be the best frigates in the world, in its weight category, when commissioned next year.

  • @Richardrefund
    @Richardrefund 22 дні тому +1

    Great analysis Aaron as always.

  • @ronmaximilian6953
    @ronmaximilian6953 22 дні тому +14

    Elta is an Israeli company. Israel is a major arms supplier to India. The Barak 8 is likewise an Israeli system.
    Many of the most advanced Indian aircraft have Israeli radars and long range missiles. India is willing to purchase these from other countries while also working on creating similar or more advanced indigenous systems.

    • @TheGreatMarathaArmy
      @TheGreatMarathaArmy 22 дні тому +15

      Barak 8 is joint venture between India and Israel, most of Barak 8 missiles are made In India. It's called MR SAM and LR SAM in INDIA.

    • @viveksorathiya2057
      @viveksorathiya2057 21 день тому +1

      BARAK-8 Is JV its also known as MR-SAM

    • @nitinkumar29
      @nitinkumar29 21 день тому

      Learning from anyone is welcome, nobody knows everything.

  • @erloriel
    @erloriel 22 дні тому +8

    Seems like a very sensible ship with a mean bite. Sensor usage and training will obviously be decisive, but this seems like a good platform to protect India's maritime interests, short of squaring off against China.
    But the Chinese parity-opportunity-horse bolted about a decade ago, so they'll need an offset strategy there anyway.

    • @AmanYadav-vq1wn
      @AmanYadav-vq1wn 22 дні тому +3

      We are a non expeditionary force, our interests lies from suez canal to malaca strait, and this is a frigate, for operating in SCS we have destroyers that regularly do portvisits in Japan, Vietnam, singapore, indonesia, philipines and even to russia

  • @exurgemars
    @exurgemars 22 дні тому +37

    At the risk of repeating this again, BrahMos' 450km-600km variants are operational with IN. They're currently testing 800-900km variant.
    Edit: As for the tech, its rather widely known BrahMos is a JV, with much of the tech being hand-me-downs from Russia in the beginning. The powerplant itself is still the licensed Russian version, but India has parallely developed its own ramjet propulsion for the STAR project. That aside, subsequently parts of Brahmos have been indigenised by means of local sourcing of both domestically designed and TOT sub-components; indigenisation including both the above criteria stands at some 78pc as per BAPL right now. Upcoming BrahMos NG will also feature an AESA seeker and an ALCM role that no P-800 variant in service with Russia does.

    • @aaravtulsyan
      @aaravtulsyan 22 дні тому +6

      Also I don't know what he means about Indian Navy not finishing designs? Like whaaaat??
      He doesn't know about Delhis, Kolkatas, Vizags?

    • @TheGreatMarathaArmy
      @TheGreatMarathaArmy 22 дні тому +10

      He said maybe Chinese are helping India with ECM/EW system 😂😂😂
      He has No idea regarding this topic.

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 22 дні тому +1

      It's a brilliant missile & it does India credit.

    • @K3ppa
      @K3ppa 22 дні тому +3

      @@corvanphoenix russians gave use brahmos for 290km range. India increased it speed from 2.5 to 3 mach. Increased range to 900km. Making most parts in india and indian parts are increasing every year.

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 21 день тому +1

      @@aaravtulsyan he might be over-generalising the procurement choices of the military. I think the worst culprit is IA. IN, which has done most to contribute to indigenous R&D & sourcing, getting clubbed with it is a bit unfair.

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 21 день тому +2

    Barak LR/8 is medium range with about 70km, the old Barak was the point defense system. They are planning ER extended range variant with 120km range or moe with added boosters for the fleet defense role in the future destroyers. Also the Brahnos/Onyx case can be seen as what the Israelis did with the AKM and Galil, the Brahmos has been constantly been updated and upgraded to improve the range, speed, guidance and other features

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 22 дні тому +10

    These look like a potentially good export, especially for middle powers like Australia.
    Nice to see competition to the usual French, Italian Spanish & German ships. Cheers Chief.⚓⚓
    _I must doubt the CCP would give India cutting edge sensor tech, they're having a Cold War._

    • @isuzu343
      @isuzu343 22 дні тому

      India won't even allow Chinese manufactured CCTV cameras or DJI drones anywhere near its military installations. It has also banned TikTok for years now.
      What makes anyone think India would use Chinese junk on their capital surface warfare fleet or seek their help in developing systems that are primarily built to combat the Chinese? Makes no sense.

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 22 дні тому

      Even if it were just to make the other major players keep their price down. I can't imagine they could be added though as I can't imagine them not being substantially cheaper than the rest & I don't see it politically possible to make such a big alliance with Mohdi.

    • @tigerland4328
      @tigerland4328 21 день тому

      I doubt Australia will be interested. They will more likely go for a British or American design

    • @LeonAust
      @LeonAust 21 день тому +3

      @@tigerland4328 Aussies are after 11 frigates could be from (Spanish, German, South Korea or Japanese design with US weapon systems and Australian sensors) capable for their size but to be quickly built overseas ASAP due to the China issue.

    • @tigerland4328
      @tigerland4328 21 день тому +2

      @@LeonAust yes I read about that. Didn't know they had already named the potential designs thou?. Plus they are building the British type 26

  • @PrinceKumar-sr8fr
    @PrinceKumar-sr8fr 20 днів тому +3

    Wikipedia gives more reliable information than this guy

  • @doomedwit1010
    @doomedwit1010 22 дні тому

    Interesting.

  • @JaidevJamwal
    @JaidevJamwal 21 день тому +4

    @13:38 Chinese are definitely not assisting :))

  • @sniperfi4532
    @sniperfi4532 22 дні тому +1

    The radar mount reminds me a lot of the retrofitted ANZAC class frigates.

    • @dhrubamaitra7545
      @dhrubamaitra7545 22 дні тому +1

      Then you should google Visakhapatnam-class destroyer. BTW the height helps it to detect Sea Skimmers farther out due to extended radar horizon

    • @avinashgore6258
      @avinashgore6258 18 днів тому

      Yes! That is Italian gun, now manufactured in India.

  • @JamesThackeray
    @JamesThackeray 21 день тому

    You just keep getting better and better love what you do. Thank you very much😉👍

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 22 дні тому +3

    Always interesting!

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 22 дні тому +6

    Kinda weird they still carry 6km range depth charges when modern subs will kill them _wayyy_ before they get that close, and it's redundant since they already have torpedo tubes on their wings for short range ASW, and a helicopter for long range ASW. They could use the deck space and weight budget for more VLS instead, and put anti-sub missiles in the extra VLS if they need more ASW capabilities. Maybe the RBUs are for mine clearing? An impressive ship otherwise, if only USN would pull their head out with the Constellation frigate fiasco and build something this nice!

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 22 дні тому +16

      The rocket boosted charges are dual purpose designed not only to attack enemy submarine, but more importantly as a defensive measure against incoming torpedoes

    • @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq
      @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq 22 дні тому +6

      It’s 5.5 miles now.
      On April 3, 2023 India successfully test fired an extended range rocket for the RBU-6000 that has a range of 8900m.

    • @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq
      @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq 22 дні тому +6

      I agree that it’s not a good sub-hunting weapon, but it’s a decent and cost effective option against surface drones and torpedos.

    • @sourabhdeb701
      @sourabhdeb701 22 дні тому +6

      It's 9km range plus Rbu,-6000k is kept for immediate close quarter shore bombardment when approaching a hostile harbour plus Rbu,6000k has broadside capability 😅 as shown against houthi pirates of Yemen . 2 Rockets are better then 4000 bullets against pirates (cost effective)

    • @AmanYadav-vq1wn
      @AmanYadav-vq1wn 22 дні тому +4

      If you see the geography of bay of bengal many sea ridges exist where submarines can hide and come close to ships knowingly or unknowingly

  • @informationcollectionpost3257
    @informationcollectionpost3257 19 днів тому

    Nice frigate or corvette. It should make potent weapon for smaller nation too.

  • @anantr99
    @anantr99 20 днів тому

    There has also been some talk of plans for a new class of frigates classified as Project 17B. Those ships will be modified versions of the Nilgiri-class, with plans to build 8 ships. These ships will start entering service in the mid-2030s, and will replace the Brahmaputra-class and Batch 1 Talwar-class frigates, taking India's frigate numbers up to 25 by the early 2040s.

  • @sunilrazdan4964
    @sunilrazdan4964 20 днів тому

    There is a latest addition in the ASubM cat. The missile is called SMART. Range 630 km.

  • @peekingowl4074
    @peekingowl4074 19 днів тому

    You can check out the kolkata and vishakapatnam class destroyers

  • @GIANNHSPEIRAIAS
    @GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 20 днів тому

    gonna do any video about the new french frigate the fdi?

  • @vietmontague
    @vietmontague 21 день тому

    Think there might be a typo in the operational range of the sea king helo. 764nm vs the sea hawk's 245nm? Something is off.

  • @dmukherjee8463
    @dmukherjee8463 21 день тому

    Thanks for the assessment. Could you also provide maybe your perceived value for money/tonnage ranking of naval vessels in the same class/role? It’ll be good for understanding which countries are doing it right and being more efficient about their spending. Btw, Brahmos has a terminal active radar seeker, no IR.

  • @HorstMichel-mh7gv
    @HorstMichel-mh7gv 21 день тому +1

    By end of 2025 India will put the BrahMos NG on the ships of this class.

  • @3Areviews
    @3Areviews 19 днів тому

    Wait for Project 17B with full stealth mast and higher indigenous content.

  • @rokuth
    @rokuth 20 днів тому

    There is a variant of the BrahMos that is air launched from a Su-30MKI.

  • @sidharthcs2110
    @sidharthcs2110 21 день тому

    These slide templates are pretty familiar

  • @madjules9873
    @madjules9873 22 дні тому +2

    Can the RBU-6000 rockets be deployed to intercept incoming torpedoes? Just a thought

    • @aruunmenon
      @aruunmenon 22 дні тому +5

      Yes, that is arguably the main intention/use.

  • @sarants4488
    @sarants4488 20 днів тому

    Indian navy also operates the mq9 sea guardian drones

  • @voidtempering8700
    @voidtempering8700 22 дні тому +3

    What do you mean when you said China might be assisting them with EW?

  • @SHaldar007
    @SHaldar007 17 днів тому

    Can anyone explain how much effective is that LANZA 3D Air radar .?

  • @StupidDanimations
    @StupidDanimations 21 день тому +1

    Guess we should just have India build our ships...

  • @subirmajumdar4493
    @subirmajumdar4493 22 дні тому

    What Chinese sensors were you referring to?

  • @owlsayssouth
    @owlsayssouth 22 дні тому

    distributed into 4 smaller ships that thus have 4x the shipyard flaws, requires more crew, costs more to operate, and that assumes they actually build them and don't just cancel the project after building 2 junkheaps.
    genis.

  • @mercedesbenz3751
    @mercedesbenz3751 17 днів тому

    In all the 4 wings of Indian Military, Indian Navy is making the most progress. Airforce is the slowest.

  • @sparky4405
    @sparky4405 22 дні тому

    Perunmaxxing

  • @abursh
    @abursh 22 дні тому

    I'd love to learn about non-combat vessels

  • @GrahamCStrouse
    @GrahamCStrouse 20 днів тому

    India sure does like to shop around when it’s building its ships! There are systems on this frigate sourced from Russia, America, Germany, Israel & Indian manufacturers & I’m pretty sure I missed a few countries.

  • @rowon8249
    @rowon8249 22 дні тому +1

    @SubBrief also do Visakhapatnam-class destroyer

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 13 днів тому +1

    Appartenly Argentina is looking to buy used Submarines to replace it's current ones, what do you thinkg?
    Incidentally there's no company called General Electric anymore - it's a collection of completely individual companies.
    Nilgiri class looks like a decent balanced design.
    The other advantage of having an IR seeker on the missile is that it helps it tell the difference between a real ship and a decoy (radar decoys will have different heat signatures and vice versa).
    One factor I would see as a problem is that India has used alot of different systems developed with alot of differnt countries, in geopolitical terms this means that unless India has complete ability to produce parts for all these systems (which it may do not sure). India needs to stay on friendly terms with all those countries (Russia/Israel) this may explain India's anti-Ukraine position maintaining it's relationship with Russia.
    40kts is a bit slow for a heavyweight torpedo by modern standards but a generation ago would be be normal (preADCAP/spearfish)

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  12 днів тому

      Argentina can't afford a Navy. They have larger issues right now.

    • @rohitb5834
      @rohitb5834 12 днів тому +1

      India didn take any stand on the Russia Ukraine conflict.

  • @willemsma
    @willemsma 21 день тому +1

    14.8 km equals 8 nautical miles.
    There is your even number.

  • @timborchers6303
    @timborchers6303 8 днів тому

    Well done. My only comment is that you refer to the gun housing as a turret. Traditionally in the US Navy anything 5” and below is in a mount, not a turret. Turret was used for larger guns. I’m not sure how India describes its gun housing.

  • @sambojinbojin-sam6550
    @sambojinbojin-sam6550 22 дні тому +3

    It's always nice to hear an American commentator that knows about this stuff sort of going "They've got a what now? On their frigates?".
    Yeah, it's not that great, but geez, it's not that bad either.

  • @sarants4488
    @sarants4488 20 днів тому

    Brahmos currently in service have a range of 400 kms...and now the new 700 km brahmos have been successfully tested by indian navy

  • @jaykumar_khot
    @jaykumar_khot 21 день тому

    it might sound stupid question but why would china help India in marine domain when we have an adversarial relation on land? especially with a key technology like EW that has usage beyond marine systems?

  • @thisisprayag4172
    @thisisprayag4172 21 день тому

    Nilgiri class frigates are good but the best ships in Indian Navy except aircraft carriers is Imphal class destroyers for context this ship has 8 brahmos VLS IND Imphal has 40 of it with a higher range. So it packs quite a punch.

    • @anantr99
      @anantr99 20 днів тому

      Imphal is a Visakhapatnam-class destroyer. Those ships have 16 BrahMos missiles plus the 32 Barak 8 SAMs.

  • @sarjenprabhu1137
    @sarjenprabhu1137 18 днів тому

    No, we Indians never said we build on our own.. We co-developed, however most of the recent tuning to the Missiles were done by India... the Missiles has Multiple Variants and can be used from all the platforms.. Land Sea and Air

  • @LeonAust
    @LeonAust 21 день тому +1

    Does this ship have a towed array sonar?

  • @ankurpandey4479
    @ankurpandey4479 22 дні тому +2

    One thing in ew systems Chinese didn’t help us.

  • @sarants4488
    @sarants4488 20 днів тому

    Actually these frigates are a scaled down version of P15 A/B class destroyers of indian navy...these destroyers have been in service of indian navy since 2015

  • @manoharjishnu2009
    @manoharjishnu2009 22 дні тому +8

    Is Aaron aware of the regional history and geo politics? I mean the remark that China potentially helping India with EW suites. That's like saying US helped Russia build a 5th gen fighter. One of the prime reasons for India's naval build up is to face the Chinese threat. Also many of the stats are way off. I don't know whether this happens because of the preparation of a dedicated presentation for the video, but more accurate (at least publically released ones) are easily accessible in Google.

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 22 дні тому +3

      In my few decades of experience, it's very difficult to underestimate how much Americans know about anyone else. Even career professionals in their military, seem to know absolutely nothing about even their closest allies. We, as fans of the technology (& not from the US), just can't imagine how they can be so deep in the life, without knowing the basic facts we knew even as civilian 12 year olds.

    • @jmax8692
      @jmax8692 18 днів тому +1

      No he doesn’t 😂

  • @MrKKUT1984
    @MrKKUT1984 19 днів тому

    I have a question that may be a little off subject from the video but i have been wondering about it. Are there any submarines that can track and take down aircraft?

  • @tigeri2336
    @tigeri2336 20 днів тому

    One correction though, Brahmos missile range is increased to 450-600kms from previous 290kms...there is wrong data regarding light weight torpedo and heavy weight torpedo...

    • @rohitb5834
      @rohitb5834 20 днів тому

      BrahMos-ER has been tested around 800 kms. Those are the variants that will go into the Nilgiri class. Its probably already equipped on the Vishakapatnam and Kolkata Class

  • @DomCombatVids
    @DomCombatVids 21 день тому

    Perun slides!

  • @bestestusername
    @bestestusername 22 дні тому +5

    Have a look at the ships the world is producing then look at UK, Australia and America, our ship building is embarrassing

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 21 день тому +2

      In what ways? The U.K. is making 2 frigate types right now. 5 general purpose and 8 ASW frigates have been ordered.

    • @rohitb5834
      @rohitb5834 21 день тому

      I believe US is still the world's largest naval shipbuilder in terms of number of warships under construction. China follows and then India.
      Uk or Australia however is not in the league.

  • @freedog632
    @freedog632 22 дні тому +1

    600km that's optimistic. Going for those subs in the Mantle, eh. Lol.

  • @jrmagallanes4219
    @jrmagallanes4219 22 дні тому +1

    Consternation-class?

  • @PatriotIndia
    @PatriotIndia 20 днів тому

    After India became member of MTCR Brahmos range is increased to 450km and 800 km range and Nilgiri class is going to be fitted with these upgraded versions of Brahmos and Also RBU 6000 rockets are Indian made by L&T increased to 8-9km

  • @sarants4488
    @sarants4488 20 днів тому

    The new barak 8 used by indian navy has a range of over 100 km

  • @animeshkantibiswas4155
    @animeshkantibiswas4155 21 день тому

    We never say we completely built brahmos by ourselves. Even the name suggests ( brahmaputra and moscova ) .

  • @timferguson593
    @timferguson593 21 день тому

    We don’t have any constellation frigates yet.

  • @Foxtrot_India
    @Foxtrot_India 15 днів тому +1

    UA-cam made it possible for anyone to become a military analyst, which degraded the quality of analysis.

  • @JonathanHStone
    @JonathanHStone 20 днів тому +3

    I highly doubt that the Chinese are helping the Indian Navy in any respect; they are the peer oppositional power in the region. Pakistan and China cooperate, both to counterveil Indian power.

  • @jeebusk
    @jeebusk 21 день тому

    1032 or 1232 rpm?
    @ 9:30

  • @moodogco
    @moodogco 22 дні тому +3

    Well tbh the UK type 26 is better then the US constellation class frigate as well

    • @Statueshop297
      @Statueshop297 21 день тому

      Hard to say really when neither of the ships is in service yet. The 26 looks like it will set the benchmark for ASW frigates if everything works as intended.

    • @moodogco
      @moodogco 20 днів тому

      @@Statueshop297 yh very true 👍

  • @koffeekage
    @koffeekage 18 днів тому +1

    We could buy these from them for less than a billion dollars a piece.

  • @McNubbys
    @McNubbys 22 дні тому +6

    You aren't Australian PowerPoint Man!

  • @ronaldfranklin6122
    @ronaldfranklin6122 19 днів тому

    The German made MAN diesel are as good as anything GE ever made

  • @nikhil.k8938
    @nikhil.k8938 17 днів тому +1

    india also building nuclear submarine underwater dock near bay of bengal

  • @artus198
    @artus198 21 день тому

    Wow ! India is privatising their defense manufacturing significantly, although ship design and build is still done by Govt agency. I would be interested to see how the AMCA is progressing

    • @parthajitjana2222
      @parthajitjana2222 20 днів тому

      Its coming late. But tejas mk2 will be coming within 1-2 years.

  • @ANABOLIC_1105
    @ANABOLIC_1105 12 днів тому

    Indian Navy uses both US and Russian Helicopter. Kamov and mh60

  • @shikharashish7616
    @shikharashish7616 21 день тому +1

    Mfstar radar should be phased out and replaced with a better indigenious radar. Too much dependence on a single country for such a critical tech is not good.

  • @ankurpandey4479
    @ankurpandey4479 22 дні тому +3

    😊it’s not 2.5 mach anymore it’s about 3. And a new Indian engine and fuel has been tested up to 4.5+ mach.

  • @TheGreatMarathaArmy
    @TheGreatMarathaArmy 22 дні тому +2

    Thanks sir......I previously requested video on Nilgiri class 😊

    • @TheGreatMarathaArmy
      @TheGreatMarathaArmy 22 дні тому +2

      Sorry......but after seeing your immature video on Nilgiri class frigate I regret my decision. (Didn't expect this low level work from you)

    • @Elegant-Capybara
      @Elegant-Capybara 22 дні тому +1

      Except for that comment about China helping India with EWS and Sensors, which is laughable, what part of the video were you disappointed by?

    • @TheGreatMarathaArmy
      @TheGreatMarathaArmy 21 день тому +1

      ​@@Elegant-Capybara​ So much wrong and misinformation in this video......
      Brahmos has 900km Range not 290km.
      (290 km is export varient)
      Indian Navy uses Barak8 LR varient which has 100km range which is not short range.
      Varunastra Heavy weight torpedo has 40km to 50km Range and speed of 40kn to 50kn. (He said 20km Range)
      Rockets used in Indian varient of RBU6000 has 8900 metre Range (9km)
      Indian Navy has its own designed and made INS VIKRANT Aircraft carrier which he had made video previously.

    • @exurgemars
      @exurgemars 21 день тому +1

      @@TheGreatMarathaArmy it's okay. He's a US commentator. Alright to excuse some gaffes here and there.

    • @Elegant-Capybara
      @Elegant-Capybara 21 день тому +1

      @@TheGreatMarathaArmy I think it's not malice but a simple mistake, though he should've done better. I think the fast cadence of improvement by India's MIC and having a whole host of variants with differing specs for export due to MTCR regulations was what might've led to the mistakes.

  • @jonathanwigmore2323
    @jonathanwigmore2323 21 день тому

    How dare anyone build a better frigate then the states! Oh wait - type 26 as well. The ship the US Navy should be building!!
    Good brief though, thanks.

  • @thelungilife6057
    @thelungilife6057 21 день тому +1

    Wikipedia is not your friend, here.

  • @muktiprateekdas9769
    @muktiprateekdas9769 20 днів тому

    Even though indias platform were of russian/sovient origin but the electronics, sonar system ,EW system are either eiropean,israeli or indian. Thats how india has a stronger airforce than pak and china despite smaller numbers .same applies for russian ships infian bought . Ship operation,fire contol softwares are indian esighned

  • @aloksinghsaini821
    @aloksinghsaini821 20 днів тому

    Brahmos range 600 km and above now after update.😅

  • @hiteshadhikari
    @hiteshadhikari 22 дні тому

    07:00 we will deploy Varunastra HWT from these

  • @clamum9648
    @clamum9648 22 дні тому

    I get it's a frigate, not a battleship, but isn't a 76mm gun kinda small and ineffective? Wouldn't it be feasible just to put like a 120mm gun on there? I dunno maybe that's dumb I ain't no sailor

    • @aruunmenon
      @aruunmenon 22 дні тому

      Yes, but when asked from the US it came out as too expensive. So, used the 76 mm which is made locally and much cheaper. The intention is to make a larger caliber gun locally later.