Literally just finished this after getting home from work. New to the PDP, still using irons but can still catch the front sight slightly drift left. Still telling myself to roll through evenly. Thanks for always putting up good info and keep it up!
What cured my low-left issue was changing my grip. Relaxed my right hand, squeeze with the left. My trigger finger is free to "float" which, for me, really makes the contact point of my trigger finger irrelevant. I found that when I tried gripping with the right, it caused my wrist to cock just slightly to the left. It also reduced muzzle flip and let me get back on the sights faster. That being said, I got a laser shot trainer and did a ton of dry fire in my living room. Next time I went to the range I was chewing the center out of every target. Great video. Subbed.
I fought low and left for my first 6 months. Worked with Frank Garcia for 2 years. After that 6 months my shots were equally placed on or around the "A" zone. Starting at 65 didnt help but lotsa dryfire and 60, 000 rounds did the trick. Met you at nationals at Universal a few years back. Nice young man and still that way. Bill
Appreciate the content sir! I'm horrible about actually doing the dry fire like I should. Y'all should start a service where you send out a robo call or text notification asking if you've done your daily dry fire.
Im too basic to be good. I found that I can mash the trigger more towards my right side and it’s straight low. Consistently about 8 inches low at 10 yds. I just pull the trigger when the dot is 8 inches high… it works and is way easier than training to pull accurately and be good
Folks should consider how a gun fits when purchasing. Point it without aiming, then lower your gaze to the sights and see where it actually is pointing. The distance from the back strap to the trigger varies a lot from gun to gun and determines this fit.
Joel, the problem for me in this drill is when I’m dry firing, I know I’m dry firing. I know the gun is not going to go off. I can truck myself for a little bit but after a couple of minutes of doing this over and over my mind knows the gun isn’t recoiling. Put live ammo in the gun and I’m back to bad habits. How do you counteract this??
What about milking the grip? Aka squeezing the trigger finger hand while shooting My dominate hand want to take over and that causes my low left. Worse on smaller guns too
For some reason I have a tendency to pull shots directly to the right (towards my strong side). It seems to be caused by a sudden increase in strong hand tension / force on the gun. Not quite able to figure out how to fix it, yet... Anyway, criminally underrated channel.
@@dn1715 that’s just input you’re doing. Place your focus on your firing hand and make sure you’re not pulling the trigger sideways or flexing your hand. Also, try putting your finger father into the trigger. I usually pull the trigger with the first joint on my trigger finger.
@joelpark556 Thanks, Joel! It's definitely to do with me transiently "flexing" my hand during the trigger press (can recreate it perfectly during dry fire). Hope you have some classes in New England one of these days.
I actually uploaded some video of me doing this drill the other day. Funny thing was I got to the range and I was like "wait a second...am I supposed to prep the trigger on this?" so, I did it both ways. To start with I was prepping but that was really really easy. Then I did it with my finger just touching and that was harder but not super hard. The reason I'm doing this drill is to just literally learn to pull the trigger faster. I'm trying to rewire my brain. When I was first getting into this and say I did a bill drill well I'd count in my head "1-2-3-4-5-6" then I started doing it like "123456" and eventually I got to where I couldn't count faster and I realized...I'm setting a rhythm for myself unintentionally. So now I'm trying to rewire my brain. I busted out a metronome on my phone one time. Seemed to help some. Now I need to mess with my timer cuz I think mine beeps after a set interval of time cuz I have never messed with the settings. My copy of skills and drills reloaded and dry fire reloaded should be here today. Looking forward to some reading materials.
Ive been working on mashing the trigger and figuring out how my pistols react to it. I notice my shots go low left. Or low right with my left hand. Its making me adjust the pressure of my grip. So i can still mash the trigger without it moving as much.
If you're using iron sights, and target focusing, how can you tell what's going on with the sights in this drill? I mean I can see a rough sight alignment but I can't see tiny movements in it when I'm hard focused on the target.
@@johnbyrne1022 I’ll make a video about target focus with irons. Short version, just because your irons aren’t in focus, you should still be aware and able to detect movement.
I'm not trying to be a dick but you still didn't accurately diagnose the problem, I watched you replicate the low left symptom it this video, step 1, dry fire without a pistol in your hand, looking down your trigger finger like it has sights on it, notice that your pulling the trigger with your whole finger, isolate the knuckle connecting your finger to your hand and pull the trigger from the second knuckle,
Mr.Park you’re a blessing to us thus far this year💯🎉
Literally just finished this after getting home from work. New to the PDP, still using irons but can still catch the front sight slightly drift left. Still telling myself to roll through evenly.
Thanks for always putting up good info and keep it up!
@@gouki9114 no problem at all man. I’m still a fan of iron sights.
What cured my low-left issue was changing my grip. Relaxed my right hand, squeeze with the left. My trigger finger is free to "float" which, for me, really makes the contact point of my trigger finger irrelevant. I found that when I tried gripping with the right, it caused my wrist to cock just slightly to the left. It also reduced muzzle flip and let me get back on the sights faster. That being said, I got a laser shot trainer and did a ton of dry fire in my living room. Next time I went to the range I was chewing the center out of every target. Great video. Subbed.
I fought low and left for my first 6 months. Worked with Frank Garcia for 2 years. After that 6 months my shots were equally placed on or around the "A" zone. Starting at 65 didnt help but lotsa dryfire and 60, 000 rounds did the trick. Met you at nationals at Universal a few years back. Nice young man and still that way. Bill
Appreciate the content sir! I'm horrible about actually doing the dry fire like I should. Y'all should start a service where you send out a robo call or text notification asking if you've done your daily dry fire.
Law enforcement and military should be working on this daily for 3 to 5 minutes at a variety of distances.
You, Ben and PTG are legit. I rarely even listen or watch anyone else. Thanks for the great content Joel.
@@tbenson5966 I’m very glad it’s helpful! We all started at the same place.
I've been doing this for a while after learning about it from you guys, its helped a ton. Thanks for putting it out there.
@@leif8532 happy to help!
Im too basic to be good. I found that I can mash the trigger more towards my right side and it’s straight low. Consistently about 8 inches low at 10 yds. I just pull the trigger when the dot is 8 inches high… it works and is way easier than training to pull accurately and be good
Folks should consider how a gun fits when purchasing. Point it without aiming, then lower your gaze to the sights and see where it actually is pointing. The distance from the back strap to the trigger varies a lot from gun to gun and determines this fit.
This was great. Thank you!
like learning from you, ben, and matt
Joel, the problem for me in this drill is when I’m dry firing, I know I’m dry firing. I know the gun is not going to go off. I can truck myself for a little bit but after a couple of minutes of doing this over and over my mind knows the gun isn’t recoiling.
Put live ammo in the gun and I’m back to bad habits.
How do you counteract this??
for me I had to lessen my main hand grip a bit
What about milking the grip? Aka squeezing the trigger finger hand while shooting
My dominate hand want to take over and that causes my low left. Worse on smaller guns too
I found I needed to occlude the dot and put a reference on the target for this, or I was easily getting dot focused.
For some reason I have a tendency to pull shots directly to the right (towards my strong side). It seems to be caused by a sudden increase in strong hand tension / force on the gun. Not quite able to figure out how to fix it, yet...
Anyway, criminally underrated channel.
@@dn1715 that’s just input you’re doing. Place your focus on your firing hand and make sure you’re not pulling the trigger sideways or flexing your hand. Also, try putting your finger father into the trigger. I usually pull the trigger with the first joint on my trigger finger.
@joelpark556 Thanks, Joel!
It's definitely to do with me transiently "flexing" my hand during the trigger press (can recreate it perfectly during dry fire).
Hope you have some classes in New England one of these days.
I actually uploaded some video of me doing this drill the other day. Funny thing was I got to the range and I was like "wait a second...am I supposed to prep the trigger on this?" so, I did it both ways. To start with I was prepping but that was really really easy. Then I did it with my finger just touching and that was harder but not super hard. The reason I'm doing this drill is to just literally learn to pull the trigger faster. I'm trying to rewire my brain. When I was first getting into this and say I did a bill drill well I'd count in my head "1-2-3-4-5-6" then I started doing it like "123456" and eventually I got to where I couldn't count faster and I realized...I'm setting a rhythm for myself unintentionally. So now I'm trying to rewire my brain. I busted out a metronome on my phone one time. Seemed to help some. Now I need to mess with my timer cuz I think mine beeps after a set interval of time cuz I have never messed with the settings.
My copy of skills and drills reloaded and dry fire reloaded should be here today. Looking forward to some reading materials.
annoying to new shooters maybe, but hardly dreaded. I mean it's not like a tax audit
Low left is a common issue for right handed shooters. You’re left handed. What is the cure for lefties?
Ive been working on mashing the trigger and figuring out how my pistols react to it. I notice my shots go low left. Or low right with my left hand. Its making me adjust the pressure of my grip. So i can still mash the trigger without it moving as much.
If you're using iron sights, and target focusing, how can you tell what's going on with the sights in this drill? I mean I can see a rough sight alignment but I can't see tiny movements in it when I'm hard focused on the target.
@@johnbyrne1022 I’ll make a video about target focus with irons. Short version, just because your irons aren’t in focus, you should still be aware and able to detect movement.
What kinda video games do you like Joel?
I'm not trying to be a dick but you still didn't accurately diagnose the problem, I watched you replicate the low left symptom it this video, step 1, dry fire without a pistol in your hand, looking down your trigger finger like it has sights on it, notice that your pulling the trigger with your whole finger, isolate the knuckle connecting your finger to your hand and pull the trigger from the second knuckle,
What’s your classification?
@ripdoinksinamish by classification do you mean job?
You, Ben and PTG are legit. I rarely even listen or watch anyone else. Thanks for the great content Joel.
Who is PTG?