Mark made me cry when he talked about being at school and being labeled, stupid or lazy, this is exactly what happened to my son, who was diagnosed with dyslexia at the age of 21. When my son was in second grade, he was asked to show the table where he sat when we came into parent teacher conference. As we moved through the classroom, he explained this is where the giraffes sat, " clever kids" another table was for lions etc, when he came to his table he said "this is where the stupid kids sit and this is my table." It was one of the worst days of my life. We changed my sons school and he flourished.
Bravo on you and so glad your son is flourishing, I'm incredibly dyslexic too and struggled at school but flourished in the real world, it's a big part of why I started 42courses. Have a marvellous week and may your son continue to flourish in life 🙌(Chris)
Thank you Marianne for telling us this deeply personal, and ultimately triumphant, story. It must be so difficult when being labelled as not good in one particular category, when there is so much talent waiting to be unleashed in everything else. Chris who founded 42courses told me the origins of the company and that is why I came onboard recently. He suffered at school due to dyslexia, but is super smart, enormously positive and a lifelong learner. After seeing Ken Robinson's TED talk on how schools kill creativity and do not reward neural diversity, Chris decided that he would act on Sir Ken's call to arms and actually do something about changing the world in a little way for the better. That's why our course lessons are designed to be inclusive, accessible and motivating for the distracted mind. Learning that is suitable for amazing people like Chris, Mark Bowden and actually for anyone and everyone around the world. I'm so happy to hear that your son flourished after changing the environment and wish him (and you) all the best for future success.
So sorry this happened to your son, but I'm super happy he's has done so well in his adult life! Bravo to him for his strength to succeed! I would expect teachers to be aware of these happenings in their classes and to talk to the children regularly about how wrong and hurtful this is.
Love this guy, he's such a sweetheart and a charmer, in addition to being interesting and knowledgeable. If anyone reading this hasn't watched the behavior panel videos, go and do so, it's 4 guys who are so interesting, kind, funny, and respectful of each other.
Mark is by far the most insightful of the 4. Compared with Mark the other 3 are mechanistic and wooden (and they are really good and accurate) Mark combines detailed accurate observation, with a complex internal modelling of peoples internal experience and motivation.
Yes, at first, I was disappointed that Mark doesn't narrate his own audiobooks. But then I discovered that he was dyslexic and would find the narration hours a bit taxing. As Mark says here at about 38:30 his dyslexia disrupts lengthy reading spells
Love Mark ! On the "Behavior Panel" I think of Mark as the groovy love child (and Chase as the brainiac brother and either Scott as the older brother and Greg the dad or Scott as the dad and Greg as gramps ;-) ) . . . I keep expecting the poet Mark to whip out his guitar and strum ! B-)
@@42courses I hear that loud and clear. I had bacterial meningitis a while back and yikes(!!) things “ain’t what they used to be” lol. I under the struggle is real! 🙌💜✨ All the best✨
We watch each week too - Mark always picks up on such interesting things and adds historical elements too. Kay, did you see the episode with Jodi Arias when Mark was speaking about the "trophy"? That introduced some great history learnings and was also pretty sinister about her.
I love you Mark, watch you on The Behavior Panel and just adore you and your personality. You are so talented and smart, a gyrations teacher, I respect you so much 👍
I learned enough from Mark to see the true smile in his eyes when you credited him with Trudeau's training. I don't know if he trained him or not, but he certainly enjoys being credited with it!
Great interview. I love Mark Bowden. I could watch him all day. Getting a Dyslexia diagnosis in my late 20s. Best thing I ever did. Knowing that I wasn’t stupid enabled me actually learn to love reading. It released my self imposed shackles. I love it when Mark says he doesn’t know his left from his right...absolutely get that.
Marks immediate, analysis of choosing between the ducksized horses and the horsesized duck is simply brilliant !! What an intelligent, warm and openminded personality he is!! Love also the interviewer!! So nicely done!!
Mark has an exuberant and charming personality!! I could listen to him talk for hours!! So happy I stumbled upon Mark and his 3 colleagues on TBC!! He’s definitely an expert on behavior science!!😁💕
Mark, you are doing a great thing for other dyslexics and for parents of dyslexics by speaking out. It takes courage and shows that dyslexics are very intelligent. I am 67 almost 68 and back in the 50s and early 60s they didn't know what dyslexia was. I was labeled as stupid and the teachers never spent much time with me because they knew I wouldn't learn. But you know what when my children were small I went to college as an adult. I was told when I was in high school not to bother because I would not be smart enough to go to college. But I was on the Dean's honor list for 5 years. I graduated with high marks in every subject. I was an advocate for my children as they grew up for they were both dyslexic. I wasn't going to let them be treated or thought of as stupid I made sure that their teachers knew that they were dyslexic and that they were not dumb and they could learn and did learn my son has his master's degree and my daughter had a free ride to a university when she was just out of high school. Advocating and publicizing dyslexia is the best thing ever. thanks for doing that. You're truly wonderful.
As a reading specialist, I understand that reading is just really difficult for some people, even brilliant ones like Mark. When the brain has to work so hard to decode print, comprehension goes out the window. Hence, the fact that Mark said he makes things up. I'm so glad we have other resources for people these days to allow them to get information without having to slog through print. I am a huge fan of the Behavior Panel.
I so enjoy learning from The Behavior Pannel. To be honest it really is brilliant to notice and learn from ones intuitive feel on people. I really see Mark's views almost to a mentoring point. I struggled very badly in school but I have been a creative person and enjoyed observing people.
Thanks for sharing Nicole. Very happy to hear that you are doing creative things now. Like Mark and Chris (from 42courses) it's so great to hear stories of people breaking out of the handcuffs that schooling tries to put on some people who don't fit neatly into the old-school schooling. Bravo, Nicole!
Thanks Valarie - yes, Mark is a super engaging personality, isn't he? Really glad you enjoyed the interview. You might also enjoy Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster in his podcast... ua-cam.com/video/9O4M9D8JH3k/v-deo.html
Mark is WINNING at life. My brother is too embarrassed about not being able to "read" efficiently to get tested. But I know he is brilliant when others do not!! He is a great instructor in his field, like you.
I think Mark answered that that first question by the way he answered it ! Seriously though Mark, you are such a likeable character, and I love the behaviour panel stuff, you guys rock xx
That was a fabulous interview. Seen The Behaviour Panel many times and love it, so UA-cam sent me your post to check out. Really pleased! Excellent questions and I always love the background in peoples videos - yours is really interesting and I like that you sit off centre. I am 20 years older than Mark, and have lots of close relatives with dyslexia, but I can spell really well, so I thought I didn’t, but absorbed the impression that all the adults in my life gave me - that I’m slow or stupid or not trying enough. Then in my 50s, I was diagnosed with Irlen Syndrome, which is a reading disability that makes reading so hard because my brain can’t focus on the moving print. It sort of undulates and morphs on the page and brings on almost a fainting feeling. I was always told off for gazing out of the window as a child, but now I think I must have instinctively known that I needed to rest my eyes on the far distance. I too am very creative and love to people watch. I actually love learning too but now it’s easier with so much online and so many audiobooks. Great channel - thanks.
Wow - so interesting to read your comment - I have never come across Irlen Syndrome before. I'm so glad that you found your way. I really hope that other children nowadays can get diagnosed much sooner than many of the adults who are commenting about their childhood dyslexia in this thread, so that they can flourish and succeed earlier in their lives. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Very enjoyable. I especially like Mark talking about when a person chooses to ignore/not call out when someone is intentionally misleading/lying. I was raised to do this and often felt afterwards that the person being deceitful thought my being diplomatic was because I was actually stupid and hadn’t caught onto their deceit. This used to rile me up inside afterwards. Choosing to be diplomatic doesn’t mean your gullible or stupid.
Yes, Chris, that was a really interesting point that doesn't get raised too often, even on The Behavior Panel. We are programmed to NOT call out a liar or to acquiesce with their lying to keep social structures safely in place :) Weird, but true in so many interactions, I suppose. I don't think I could handle being a career diplomat though - just don't have the poker face for it :)
I'm glad you corrected yourself & said narcisissm is wholly different from self-centeredness. It certainly is. Selfishness is one of the least traumatic traits a narcissist can exhibit.
I like the part where you discuss dyslexia: I actually agree : you DO see things better than others. You see the bigger picture - not the details . And I believe it has made you who you are / it is your strength !
Of course, Mark is brilliant and relatable. What's new & interesting here is the interviewer: Brent --- whose questions, as well as comments, are very original and captivating!
Hey Mark thank you for bringing awareness to dyslexia I have dyslexia myself and many people have treated me as I'm less than or stupid. From experience it just heightens our senses. Also love your style. You Rock.
Isn't it amazing how open Mark was, Melodi? I hope, like Mark, that you have managed to overcome your experiences of unfair treatment during school years.
This was amazing to watch and listen to, I loved his analysis of the duck and the horse question, there was so much adrenaline within him as he explored the question.
I thought this was fascinating--that our individual instincts are selfish, knee-jerk, and anti-social, in a way--into survival and in the moment--and critical thinking is unbiased thinking and more pro-social. Also interesting is the idea is that all body language is a display of or response to power. Great stuff.
Yep, super interesting, Susan - the response to power concept is explored more deeply in Mark's book, 'Truth and Lies - What people are really thinking' of course - highly recommended
I had the same experience as you Mark! But turned out I have pretty strong ADHD and mild dyslexia 😬 I was always getting into trouble and no one could understand why there was such a big incongruence between my ability and how much I was able to concentrate/ how much work I was able to do. Everyone though I was lazy. 😌 Thank you for sharing!
Great show!!! Mark is even greater than I previously thought, which already was that he was astonishing. What great messages of striving to be better each day and to break thing apart to really take in and evaluate those pieces and to help others. His message is a constructive attitude that is an uplifting and useful tool to have in the face of a challenging world that needs more than anything to be better to ourselves, to other's and humane to humanity. Cheers to the both of you. Sincerely, Randy Chavez Belmont, California USA
Also dyslexic. They figured it out when I was in 6th grade. Up until that point the teachers had no idea what to do with me (and even after that, often) - I was labeled "oppositional" because I "refused" to do work that they were sure that I could. I was bounced from gifted and talented classes to remedial and neither fit. We had reading tests back then, where you would read one side of the card, then turn it over and answer the questions. I soon figured out that I did a lot better if I skipped the first step and just started answering the questions on the back - they were usually pretty obvious. Take away - reading just wastes time :) Similar to what Mark found - the inside of my own head was endlessly more interesting than anything else out there.
Very sorry to hear Christina that you also suffered for so long at school due to a lack of understanding from the authorities/teaching staff, like so many others have mentioned similar stories in this comment thread. So awesome though about your method of answering the questions! Wow!
omg, i love you Mark, your style. your so kind, you could tell someone they are an ass, and they would say thank you till they think about it. your the best. May the force be with you. hope to see you live someday.
Thank you so much for this great interview/ teamwork to share knowledge and create more awareness and also acceptance. I know, I know, I'm late to the party #replaycrew - but I've thoroughly enjoyed it regardless. Adding to this, I think the responses on the viewers posts are just little gems. Compassionate and thoughtful.. I've never seen that on any YT channel. Beautiful.
@@42courses Gee, that would be like picking which one of my family member is my favorite. Each episode is unique. They ( The Four Kings, episodes) all work together as a whole for good.
@@42courses It was an exquisitely performed exercise in critical thinking. Not only was it hilarious It was really took you through the journey and showed how to critically think through a topic and even broached the subject of biases and how to use critical thinking to progress past biases and think about things in a different way. I mean really brilliant. I felt like I had found my tribe. Loyal listener to TBP. Also wanted to just say how inspiring you are from someone who struggled with school myself it is so reassuring to know it doesn't always come as easily to other people as it looks.
@@leslieshaw1421 thank you. Sorry to hear about your struggles at school and hope that like Mark and many others commenting in this thread that you have found your way and happiness in adulthood. Mark's answer was truly brilliant from the critical thinking standpoint, and as with everyone, that question really brings out the true character of a person. That's why it allowed Mark to show his brilliant mind, breadth and outlook. The Behaviour Panel is just so good - never fails to intrigue. Every Wednesday/Thursday is exciting as the latest show is published :)
Wan't it great? Bren said to us afterwards that it was probably the best answer to that Q that he has ever heard... and he asked it hundreds of times when interviewing people in corporate life.
Although, I do think Mark was thinking of ducklings...full grown ducks are pretty big, but still I agree with his flawless logic. I would also add, a horse-sized duck flying overhead and pooping - that would be an ordeal. :D
Mark is brilliant. I always enjoy his insights on The Behavior Panel, in particular when he talks about our primal instincts and how they manifest themselves through our behavior in the modern world. As Spock stated numerous times “fascinating”.
Oooooh, Spock is my favourite Sci-Fi character of all time! Love him! Yes, Mark is brilliant with his weekly TBP insights, but Spock is next level :) Have you seen the documentary about Spock on Netflix called, 'For the love of Spock'? It's totally fabulous - highly recommended
@@42courses Oh I was 11 when Star Trek TOS premiered and me and my 14 year old brother never missed an episode. A huge fan of all things Star Trek, I have seen all the various films, tv series, documentaries through the years. And I should throw in the great voice work/narration of Leonard Nimoy over the years. I liked the tv series “In Search Of” for both the interesting subject matter and Nimoy’s narration. Cheers.
@@TheCarnivalguy Awesome! For me, it's TOS or nothing. However, Chris, the founder of 42courses is a massive Trekkie and has recently done a complete run through of everything ever made by Gene Rodenberry :)
This is awesome!one of the behaviour panel videos brought me here! I love this interview. And i find what Mark and the behaviour Panel do as a career very fascinating!!
Being called lazy as a child/teen cause people were unwilling/unable to investigate the reasons for my behaviour has ruined a lot for me in regards to my self image. Felt that. Thank you for talking about that
Thank you for your openness Jo. I hope that as you hear others talk about similar experiences and how they overcame the unfairness of the situation that you find encouragement and strength in that
Thank you Jennifer. So glad you enjoyed it. We've recorded an epic 2-hour special with Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster, speechwriter extraordinaire... incredible fun. Will be releasing that after Nudgestock 2021 (Friday 11th June). And some Nudgestock speakers might be on the podcast before then.
You're never done learning in life been watching these videos reinforces that human behavior how the brain works body language itself great material very interesting
Wasn't it brill? Best one I've heard I think. But also check out Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster, in the next podcast giving his answer too - great improv! ua-cam.com/video/9O4M9D8JH3k/v-deo.html
So glad you enjoyed it! It's definitely the most in-depth answer I've ever heard to the question and I've asked it hundreds of times in my working life
Yep, massive answer! It's so much better when someone answers that question in the full spirit which it was intended. Total leftfield question, so go total crazy on it 😆
I love that quirky mouth of yours Brent! You remind me a bit of Hugh the English actor, but better because of your personality. But I did have a crush on him in the 90's before he was a bad boy. I watch all the behavior panel shows and really enjoyed the chance to hear so much from the enigmatic Mark. You do a great job of letting the interviewee talk and not interrupting which is a refreshing change from American journalists. Thanks for this!! Great job.
Ha ha, thank you for the kind words. Funnily enough about Hugh Grant, when there were peak Four Weddings and a Funeral times and I was much younger, some girls at school were calling me Hugh... I did also have very similar glasses to him at the time. Mark is awesome, agreed... and not talking all over the guest is something that I really work on, biting my tongue so as not to interrupt... and it's a sentence in the pitch email when I write to people when inviting them on to the podcast :) Thanks again for watching and commenting. Cheers, Bren
Thanks for reply, and yes you look just like him. I can see why the kids called you Hugh. That movie was so good, totally underrated. I don't know exactly how but I lost interest in him over the years but had a mad crush in the 90's ;) Well I definitely subscribed and look forward to more of your content. I have to bite my tongue too, let people talk. But with you, I can't tell you are doing it. You look interested and relaxed. Wish other interviewers would take note. So annoying. Or when they ask dumb questions that have nothing to do with anything 😂 Thanks again, great job :) Maybe interview the other 3 members of TBP. I love each one of them and would love to hear their stories. Even Dr. Phil doesn't let them talk 🦜 much love and appreciation heart ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The thing that is so great is that just because you have dsylexia doesnt mean you cant be a word master! My daughter did and I wrote her brilliant papers for her. She was 6 and wrote a paper about the humbolt whale...Who new???
The section near the end when Mark asks (not a direct quote) How would it be if you understood every deception? I think many women understand when their friends are not telling quite, or the whole, truth. It often depends on whether it's something we expect as a polite side-step or find-the-positive (which gives a baseline, whether we quite realize it or not) and when it's something that's unexpected or a change from their norm. From there if something changes significantly that can be quite a jolt whether you understand what you're noticing or feeling, or not. I don't know if it's much the same for men generally, although most of the men I know refer to taking their friends at face value. Love the duck/horse question! A huge duck (extrapolating from geese) would scare me to bits - it's hard enough to outrun a goose!! I'll see how sleeping on that idea goes!
Very interesting point about female intuition being the great truth seer within friends' interactions. I will start enquiring on this with my female friends, a small focus group, because now I want to know if this is a common phenomenon within female groups. Regarding the duck/goose - get back to us after you've slept on it... but don't have nightmares :)
@@42courses I have Delta, it was the wrong night to have giant ducks in the periphery! Apparently the fatigue put me in the dreaded slow-mo state, but it was still a great question!
Oh marianne.....I had a similar experience w my youngest.....when she pointed at her spot, she looked up at me w huge tears in her eyes....😭💔 Yes we made changes the very next day. She never went back to that classroom..... 1st grade🥺
When my brother died I could not stand up and talk. I was so devastated I knew I would not get through it. I had a friend read for me but that was a bad mistake. She did not have the emotional connection I had so the speech I had prepared did not sound like the way I was feeling. If that makes sense. Anyway my point is it is better to do it yourself. When my dad died I did get up and say what was in my heart. I made it through but it was so very hard.
Sorry to hear of your loss Nuna. Glad to hear that, even though it was super difficult, you managed to give your father the words that you wanted everyone to hear. A eulogy is so incredibly hard to even write, never mind to actually deliver in public. Bravo to you for getting through it
FIMALLY worked put why.watching The B..P it is Mark that draws me in & feel it is that , yes He .resides In Canada as I now live in the USA.but we were Born & Grew up in England & have an outlook based on her Traditions that seep in regardless & then Canada still , in spite if size & geophysical differan as is NOT .a part of this equally large , diverse land . I enjoy most of those who do ' behaviour " frim psychologists onwards BUT Mark has that defensive humour & ability to ridicule himself even when making profound statements & makes him lLovable !!!
Mark made me cry when he talked about being at school and being labeled, stupid or lazy, this is exactly what happened to my son, who was diagnosed with dyslexia at the age of 21.
When my son was in second grade, he was asked to show the table where he sat when we came into parent teacher conference. As we moved through the classroom, he explained this is where the giraffes sat, " clever kids" another table was for lions etc, when he came to his table he said "this is where the stupid kids sit and this is my table."
It was one of the worst days of my life. We changed my sons school and he flourished.
Bravo on you and so glad your son is flourishing, I'm incredibly dyslexic too and struggled at school but flourished in the real world, it's a big part of why I started 42courses. Have a marvellous week and may your son continue to flourish in life 🙌(Chris)
@@42courses Thank you so much, I will watch this again with my son.
Thank you Marianne for telling us this deeply personal, and ultimately triumphant, story.
It must be so difficult when being labelled as not good in one particular category, when there is so much talent waiting to be unleashed in everything else.
Chris who founded 42courses told me the origins of the company and that is why I came onboard recently. He suffered at school due to dyslexia, but is super smart, enormously positive and a lifelong learner. After seeing Ken Robinson's TED talk on how schools kill creativity and do not reward neural diversity, Chris decided that he would act on Sir Ken's call to arms and actually do something about changing the world in a little way for the better.
That's why our course lessons are designed to be inclusive, accessible and motivating for the distracted mind. Learning that is suitable for amazing people like Chris, Mark Bowden and actually for anyone and everyone around the world.
I'm so happy to hear that your son flourished after changing the environment and wish him (and you) all the best for future success.
@@Brendini-Brennan Thank you so much, you are making a difference to peoples lives with your courses.
So sorry this happened to your son, but I'm super happy he's has done so well in his adult life! Bravo to him for his strength to succeed!
I would expect teachers to be aware of these happenings in their classes and to talk to the children regularly about how wrong and hurtful this is.
Love this guy, he's such a sweetheart and a charmer, in addition to being interesting and knowledgeable. If anyone reading this hasn't watched the behavior panel videos, go and do so, it's 4 guys who are so interesting, kind, funny, and respectful of each other.
Agree 100% Mrs Smith! The Fab 4 work so well together - they're like the ultimate boy band of Body Language :)
Don't forget nice to look at as well. Lol
Mark is by far the most insightful of the 4. Compared with Mark the other 3 are mechanistic and wooden (and they are really good and accurate) Mark combines detailed accurate observation, with a complex internal modelling of peoples internal experience and motivation.
Remember charm is a verb
I do wish he would narrate his books!! He is extremely entertaining. I’m riveted by his education skills and personality.
Yes, at first, I was disappointed that Mark doesn't narrate his own audiobooks. But then I discovered that he was dyslexic and would find the narration hours a bit taxing. As Mark says here at about 38:30 his dyslexia disrupts lengthy reading spells
Love Mark ! On the "Behavior Panel" I think of Mark as the groovy love child (and Chase as the brainiac brother and either Scott as the older brother and Greg the dad or Scott as the dad and Greg as gramps ;-) ) . . . I keep expecting the poet Mark to whip out his guitar and strum ! B-)
@@solarnaut Ha ha, yep they all bring such different vibes to the mix, and complement each other so well
@@42courses I hear that loud and clear. I had bacterial meningitis a while back and yikes(!!) things “ain’t what they used to be” lol. I under the struggle is real! 🙌💜✨
All the best✨
I love Mark - I watch the behavior panel each week and he is always insightful
We watch each week too - Mark always picks up on such interesting things and adds historical elements too. Kay, did you see the episode with Jodi Arias when Mark was speaking about the "trophy"? That introduced some great history learnings and was also pretty sinister about her.
@@42courses YES!!! That blew my mind. Talk about hitting the nail on the head!😬
@@commonsense571 Yep, incredibly insightful, but also incredibly chilling! 🤐
Mark your humanity leaves me speechless. I’m so blessed to have found your work. I felt stupid and lazy my whole life.
Thank you, Leslie, so much for your lovely comment. We shall pass this on to Mark. He'll be moved to hear that he is having a positive influence.
Geez! Just when I didn't think I could adore Mark more..! Absolutely love his interviews and respect him more each time I watch his interviews.
I love you Mark, watch you on The Behavior Panel and just adore you and your personality. You are so talented and smart, a gyrations teacher, I respect you so much 👍
I learned enough from Mark to see the true smile in his eyes when you credited him with Trudeau's training. I don't know if he trained him or not, but he certainly enjoys being credited with it!
Great interview. I love Mark Bowden. I could watch him all day. Getting a Dyslexia diagnosis in my late 20s. Best thing I ever did. Knowing that I wasn’t stupid enabled me actually learn to love reading. It released my self imposed shackles. I love it when Mark says he doesn’t know his left from his right...absolutely get that.
Thank you - it's so great to hear that Mark's openness about his dyslexia is giving solace and confidence to others
I have never had an assessment but I hate writing and there is a reasonable chance I am dyspraxic so was very encouraging to here this.
@@michaelgreen1515 Because of the positive change in alip78 after a diagnosis, maybe it is worth seeking out an assessment???
I can't see a practical application? especially at my age.
@@michaelgreen1515 Yes, you're probably right, and who wants to take more tests now anyway? :)
Mark Bowden you are fantastic and such an inspiration. Thanks for being you.
Mark is indeed fantastic and full of inspiration... and very funny! Thank you for commenting @Mjones 😳
Marks immediate, analysis of choosing between the ducksized horses and the horsesized duck is simply brilliant !! What an intelligent, warm and openminded personality he is!! Love also the interviewer!! So nicely done!!
Mark has an exuberant and charming personality!! I could listen to him talk for hours!! So happy I stumbled upon Mark and his 3 colleagues on TBC!! He’s definitely an expert on behavior science!!😁💕
Mark. my favourite on the behaviour panel. ♥️
Ha ha, difficult to choose though, isn't it? :)
Mark is so very likeable and truly seems authentic. I could listen to him all day - quack, quack!
Mark, you are doing a great thing for other dyslexics and for parents of dyslexics by speaking out. It takes courage and shows that dyslexics are very intelligent. I am 67 almost 68 and back in the 50s and early 60s they didn't know what dyslexia was. I was labeled as stupid and the teachers never spent much time with me because they knew I wouldn't learn. But you know what when my children were small I went to college as an adult. I was told when I was in high school not to bother because I would not be smart enough to go to college. But I was on the Dean's honor list for 5 years. I graduated with high marks in every subject. I was an advocate for my children as they grew up for they were both dyslexic. I wasn't going to let them be treated or thought of as stupid I made sure that their teachers knew that they were dyslexic and that they were not dumb and they could learn and did learn my son has his master's degree and my daughter had a free ride to a university when she was just out of high school. Advocating and publicizing dyslexia is the best thing ever. thanks for doing that. You're truly wonderful.
As a reading specialist, I understand that reading is just really difficult for some people, even brilliant ones like Mark. When the brain has to work so hard to decode print, comprehension goes out the window. Hence, the fact that Mark said he makes things up. I'm so glad we have other resources for people these days to allow them to get information without having to slog through print. I am a huge fan of the Behavior Panel.
Mark is cute as all get out. Love the behavior panel!!
I so enjoy learning from The Behavior Pannel. To be honest it really is brilliant to notice and learn from ones intuitive feel on people. I really see Mark's views almost to a mentoring point. I struggled very badly in school but I have been a creative person and enjoyed observing people.
Thanks for sharing Nicole. Very happy to hear that you are doing creative things now. Like Mark and Chris (from 42courses) it's so great to hear stories of people breaking out of the handcuffs that schooling tries to put on some people who don't fit neatly into the old-school schooling. Bravo, Nicole!
Absolutely wonderful and knowledgeable man..n extremely easy on the eyes;)
Yes, Victoria, Mark is super clever and and a great conveyor of all that information he has ingested. Another fan of Mark, over and above Chase??? :)
Love Mark.... great guy, so knowledgeable and funny.
I like his personality. Good interview.
Thanks Valarie - yes, Mark is a super engaging personality, isn't he? Really glad you enjoyed the interview.
You might also enjoy Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster in his podcast... ua-cam.com/video/9O4M9D8JH3k/v-deo.html
Loved Mark's response to the duck v horse question - super analytical, I can appreciate that! Great final question & interview 🙂
Mark is WINNING at life. My brother is too embarrassed about not being able to "read" efficiently to get tested. But I know he is brilliant when others do not!! He is a great instructor in his field, like you.
Mark is winning, because he gives so much. Giving = winning 🙂
This is such a valuable talk. Thank you both!
Thank you. Mark is a real gent and a fantastic conversationalist. Very happy you enjoyed it!
I think Mark answered that that first question by the way he answered it !
Seriously though Mark, you are such a likeable character, and I love the behaviour panel stuff, you guys rock xx
That was a fabulous interview. Seen The Behaviour Panel many times and love it, so UA-cam sent me your post to check out. Really pleased! Excellent questions and I always love the background in peoples videos - yours is really interesting and I like that you sit off centre.
I am 20 years older than Mark, and have lots of close relatives with dyslexia, but I can spell really well, so I thought I didn’t, but absorbed the impression that all the adults in my life gave me - that I’m slow or stupid or not trying enough. Then in my 50s, I was diagnosed with Irlen Syndrome, which is a reading disability that makes reading so hard because my brain can’t focus on the moving print. It sort of undulates and morphs on the page and brings on almost a fainting feeling. I was always told off for gazing out of the window as a child, but now I think I must have instinctively known that I needed to rest my eyes on the far distance.
I too am very creative and love to people watch. I actually love learning too but now it’s easier with so much online and so many audiobooks. Great channel - thanks.
Wow - so interesting to read your comment - I have never come across Irlen Syndrome before. I'm so glad that you found your way. I really hope that other children nowadays can get diagnosed much sooner than many of the adults who are commenting about their childhood dyslexia in this thread, so that they can flourish and succeed earlier in their lives.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Very enjoyable. I especially like Mark talking about when a person chooses to ignore/not call out when someone is intentionally misleading/lying. I was raised to do this and often felt afterwards that the person being deceitful thought my being diplomatic was because I was actually stupid and hadn’t caught onto their deceit. This used to rile me up inside afterwards. Choosing to be diplomatic doesn’t mean your gullible or stupid.
Yes, Chris, that was a really interesting point that doesn't get raised too often, even on The Behavior Panel. We are programmed to NOT call out a liar or to acquiesce with their lying to keep social structures safely in place :)
Weird, but true in so many interactions, I suppose.
I don't think I could handle being a career diplomat though - just don't have the poker face for it :)
I'm glad you corrected yourself & said narcisissm is wholly different from self-centeredness. It certainly is. Selfishness is one of the least traumatic traits a narcissist can exhibit.
Mark is such a character! Love watching him share his genius on TBP! Get interview.
I like the part where you discuss dyslexia: I actually agree : you DO see things better than others. You see the bigger picture - not the details . And I believe it has made you who you are / it is your strength !
I LOVE YOU MARK. THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU.
I love the four lads.
The Behavior Panel is the best on YT/WW
Totally agree - watch it religiously every Thursday!
Thank you for this! I love Mark Bowden! Very clever and fun!!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Norma 😇
Of course, Mark is brilliant and relatable. What's new & interesting here is the interviewer: Brent --- whose questions, as well as comments, are very original and captivating!
This was so good Mark. Thank you.
I love Mark! Great man!
Hey Mark thank you for bringing awareness to dyslexia I have dyslexia myself and many people have treated me as I'm less than or stupid. From experience it just heightens our senses. Also love your style. You Rock.
Loved this.
I love Mark's spirit and wept at his story of school. I had very similar experiences. Thank you so much for this wonderful and uplifting show.
Isn't it amazing how open Mark was, Melodi? I hope, like Mark, that you have managed to overcome your experiences of unfair treatment during school years.
This was amazing to watch and listen to, I loved his analysis of the duck and the horse question, there was so much adrenaline within him as he explored the question.
I love Mark.
I thought this was fascinating--that our individual instincts are selfish, knee-jerk, and anti-social, in a way--into survival and in the moment--and critical thinking is unbiased thinking and more pro-social. Also interesting is the idea is that all body language is a display of or response to power. Great stuff.
Yep, super interesting, Susan - the response to power concept is explored more deeply in Mark's book, 'Truth and Lies - What people are really thinking' of course - highly recommended
Love Mark with The behaviour panel..
Markie!!!! His animated and sense of whimsy sweetness personified, and yet super savvy!
Super savvy indeed! 😃
Great interview....Mark you an awesome person and I learn so much from the knowledge you share, thank you.
I bought his latest book on Audible. I was hoping it would be narrated by Mark. I could listen to him all day!
I had the same experience as you Mark! But turned out I have pretty strong ADHD and mild dyslexia 😬 I was always getting into trouble and no one could understand why there was such a big incongruence between my ability and how much I was able to concentrate/ how much work I was able to do.
Everyone though I was lazy. 😌
Thank you for sharing!
Great show!!!
Mark is even greater than I previously thought, which already was that he was astonishing.
What great messages of striving to be better each day and to break thing apart to really take in and evaluate those pieces and to help others.
His message is a constructive attitude that is an uplifting and useful tool to have in the face of a challenging world that needs more than anything to be better to ourselves, to other's and humane to humanity.
Cheers to the both of you.
Sincerely,
Randy Chavez Belmont, California USA
Also dyslexic. They figured it out when I was in 6th grade. Up until that point the teachers had no idea what to do with me (and even after that, often) - I was labeled "oppositional" because I "refused" to do work that they were sure that I could. I was bounced from gifted and talented classes to remedial and neither fit. We had reading tests back then, where you would read one side of the card, then turn it over and answer the questions. I soon figured out that I did a lot better if I skipped the first step and just started answering the questions on the back - they were usually pretty obvious. Take away - reading just wastes time :) Similar to what Mark found - the inside of my own head was endlessly more interesting than anything else out there.
Very sorry to hear Christina that you also suffered for so long at school due to a lack of understanding from the authorities/teaching staff, like so many others have mentioned similar stories in this comment thread. So awesome though about your method of answering the questions! Wow!
omg, i love you Mark, your style. your so kind, you could tell someone they are an ass, and they would say thank you till they think about it. your the best. May the force be with you. hope to see you live someday.
The Behavior Panel is my favourite channel :)
Mine too - and we got a double helping last week! Excellent!
Thank you so much for this great interview/ teamwork to share knowledge and create more awareness and also acceptance.
I know, I know, I'm late to the party #replaycrew - but I've thoroughly enjoyed it regardless. Adding to this, I think the responses on the viewers posts are just little gems. Compassionate and thoughtful.. I've never seen that on any YT channel. Beautiful.
So glad that you enjoyed the chat Izindawo... and thank you for the very nice words
Love Mark!!!!
He makes it very easy to love him.... Have you seen his TED Talk Millicent?
I am addicted to ,"THE FOUR KINGS ". YES, I am a panelist. Look up the channel and join. THE BEHAVIOR PANEL!
Begs the question(s), Rebecca - who is your favourite panelist and which is your favourite episode? 🙂
@@42courses Gee, that would be like picking which one of my family member is my favorite. Each episode is unique. They ( The Four Kings, episodes) all work together as a whole for good.
I love how far Mark goes into the question about the horse sized duck. I love this 💕💕💕💕
Wasn't it great? :)
Bren said it was the possibly the best answer he's ever heard to that Q. So glad you enjoyed it, Leslie!
@@42courses It was an exquisitely performed exercise in critical thinking. Not only was it hilarious It was really took you through the journey and showed how to critically think through a topic and even broached the subject of biases and how to use critical thinking to progress past biases and think about things in a different way. I mean really brilliant. I felt like I had found my tribe. Loyal listener to TBP. Also wanted to just say how inspiring you are from someone who struggled with school myself it is so reassuring to know it doesn't always come as easily to other people as it looks.
@@leslieshaw1421 thank you. Sorry to hear about your struggles at school and hope that like Mark and many others commenting in this thread that you have found your way and happiness in adulthood.
Mark's answer was truly brilliant from the critical thinking standpoint, and as with everyone, that question really brings out the true character of a person. That's why it allowed Mark to show his brilliant mind, breadth and outlook.
The Behaviour Panel is just so good - never fails to intrigue. Every Wednesday/Thursday is exciting as the latest show is published :)
Mark, thank you for taking on the horse/duck question with such gusto and critical thinking skill!
Wan't it great? Bren said to us afterwards that it was probably the best answer to that Q that he has ever heard... and he asked it hundreds of times when interviewing people in corporate life.
Although, I do think Mark was thinking of ducklings...full grown ducks are pretty big, but still I agree with his flawless logic. I would also add, a horse-sized duck flying overhead and pooping - that would be an ordeal. :D
Hahaha @@sandymcgrew6420 - we've never heard of the flying overhead poop scenario. That is quite something to comprehend
Thank you Mark! No timeouts for our most precious
Brilliant man that Mark Bowden!
Have to say, we agree, Brenda :)
@@42courses Love the accent too! :D
@@brendacameron4827 But if he was in a Hollywood movie with that British accent, then he would be the baddie 😆
I really enjoyed this. You are both wonderful.
Mark is brilliant. I always enjoy his insights on The Behavior Panel, in particular when he talks about our primal instincts and how they manifest themselves through our behavior in the modern world. As Spock stated numerous times “fascinating”.
Oooooh, Spock is my favourite Sci-Fi character of all time! Love him! Yes, Mark is brilliant with his weekly TBP insights, but Spock is next level :)
Have you seen the documentary about Spock on Netflix called, 'For the love of Spock'? It's totally fabulous - highly recommended
@@42courses Oh I was 11 when Star Trek TOS premiered and me and my 14 year old brother never missed an episode. A huge fan of all things Star Trek, I have seen all the various films, tv series, documentaries through the years. And I should throw in the great voice work/narration of Leonard Nimoy over the years. I liked the tv series “In Search Of” for both the interesting subject matter and Nimoy’s narration. Cheers.
@@TheCarnivalguy Awesome! For me, it's TOS or nothing. However, Chris, the founder of 42courses is a massive Trekkie and has recently done a complete run through of everything ever made by Gene Rodenberry :)
Thank you for the behaviour panel, that is another thing for me to watch.
I was killing myself laughing at Mark's answer. Gosh, we think alike!!
Fantastic interview!
I love the duck theory
This is awesome!one of the behaviour panel videos brought me here! I love this interview. And i find what Mark and the behaviour Panel do as a career very fascinating!!
Thanks for stopping by and glad you enjoyed it! TBP boys are definitely awesome!
"Well, that's just ducky!"
Great interview
Debby Woods
OMG…..horse sized duck versus ducked sized horses……LOL, I love Mark’s answer
It was one of the best ever for this question... He really went to town on it :)
@@42courses I have had the good fortune to have Mark present at one of our conferences (live pre-Covid) and online (during Covid)
Being called lazy as a child/teen cause people were unwilling/unable to investigate the reasons for my behaviour has ruined a lot for me in regards to my self image. Felt that. Thank you for talking about that
Thank you for your openness Jo. I hope that as you hear others talk about similar experiences and how they overcame the unfairness of the situation that you find encouragement and strength in that
Great interview!
Enjoyed the conversation. I’ll be back for more.
Thank you Jennifer. So glad you enjoyed it.
We've recorded an epic 2-hour special with Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster, speechwriter extraordinaire... incredible fun.
Will be releasing that after Nudgestock 2021 (Friday 11th June). And some Nudgestock speakers might be on the podcast before then.
Wow Mark you made me feel better
Mark’s breakdown of the duck vs horse has me 💀 I do the same thing 😂
Thank you
Whatta profile photo there Mark!!!!
Looking polished!!!
You're never done learning in life been watching these videos reinforces that human behavior how the brain works body language itself great material very interesting
😂😂😂
Mark: it was a fictional hypothetical question 😂
I enjoyed the horse - duck answer the most. Great comedy!
Wasn't it brill? Best one I've heard I think. But also check out Mark's friend, Simon Lancaster, in the next podcast giving his answer too - great improv! ua-cam.com/video/9O4M9D8JH3k/v-deo.html
I'm not sure if I'm fascinated with reading body language, or if I'm just fascinated with the 4 of you! Probably both.
Got to agree with you Autumn - it's probably both :)
Thank you for this super interview. The final question was so fun! Nearly died hearing Mark's answer. So, so interesting.
So glad you enjoyed it! It's definitely the most in-depth answer I've ever heard to the question and I've asked it hundreds of times in my working life
@@42courses It would be fantastic if you could do a montage of all the answers you have heard! Be kind of fun to mix them up too. Thanks again!
Refreshing ideas
I LOVED this video! Thank you so much!
So glad that you enjoyed it Lorna, thanks so much for the positive feedback
OMG that question at the end was great Mark really went off on it!!
Yep, massive answer! It's so much better when someone answers that question in the full spirit which it was intended. Total leftfield question, so go total crazy on it 😆
@@42courses yes exactly!
I love that quirky mouth of yours Brent! You remind me a bit of Hugh the English actor, but better because of your personality. But I did have a crush on him in the 90's before he was a bad boy.
I watch all the behavior panel shows and really enjoyed the chance to hear so much from the enigmatic Mark. You do a great job of letting the interviewee talk and not interrupting which is a refreshing change from American journalists. Thanks for this!! Great job.
Ha ha, thank you for the kind words.
Funnily enough about Hugh Grant, when there were peak Four Weddings and a Funeral times and I was much younger, some girls at school were calling me Hugh... I did also have very similar glasses to him at the time.
Mark is awesome, agreed... and not talking all over the guest is something that I really work on, biting my tongue so as not to interrupt... and it's a sentence in the pitch email when I write to people when inviting them on to the podcast :)
Thanks again for watching and commenting.
Cheers,
Bren
Thanks for reply, and yes you look just like him. I can see why the kids called you Hugh. That movie was so good, totally underrated. I don't know exactly how but I lost interest in him over the years but had a mad crush in the 90's ;)
Well I definitely subscribed and look forward to more of your content. I have to bite my tongue too, let people talk. But with you, I can't tell you are doing it. You look interested and relaxed. Wish other interviewers would take note. So annoying. Or when they ask dumb questions that have nothing to do with anything 😂
Thanks again, great job :)
Maybe interview the other 3 members of TBP. I love each one of them and would love to hear their stories. Even Dr. Phil doesn't let them talk 🦜 much love and appreciation heart ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@caricaturecontest7899 Thanks again for the overly kind comments Will do our best to try to tempt Greg, Scott and Chase on to the podcast too
Love listening to Mark, his book is great
Agreed - but which book, Paul? Did you read 'Truth and Lies: What people are really thinking'??
@@42courses ah yes, he's got a few hasn't he haha! Truth and Lies. Haven't got round to reading the others
@@paulashcroft6225 Good stuff. Mark's other books are pretty useful too if you are looking to gain a competitive edge in the business world
Ty for being you
The thing that is so great is that just because you have dsylexia doesnt mean you cant be a word master! My daughter did and I wrote her brilliant papers for her. She was 6 and wrote a paper about the humbolt whale...Who new???
Mark, you have so beautiful eyes and love your voice as well.
We will pass your comments on to Mark - thank you Elena :)
The section near the end when Mark asks (not a direct quote) How would it be if you understood every deception? I think many women understand when their friends are not telling quite, or the whole, truth. It often depends on whether it's something we expect as a polite side-step or find-the-positive (which gives a baseline, whether we quite realize it or not) and when it's something that's unexpected or a change from their norm. From there if something changes significantly that can be quite a jolt whether you understand what you're noticing or feeling, or not. I don't know if it's much the same for men generally, although most of the men I know refer to taking their friends at face value.
Love the duck/horse question! A huge duck (extrapolating from geese) would scare me to bits - it's hard enough to outrun a goose!! I'll see how sleeping on that idea goes!
Very interesting point about female intuition being the great truth seer within friends' interactions. I will start enquiring on this with my female friends, a small focus group, because now I want to know if this is a common phenomenon within female groups.
Regarding the duck/goose - get back to us after you've slept on it... but don't have nightmares :)
@@42courses I have Delta, it was the wrong night to have giant ducks in the periphery! Apparently the fatigue put me in the dreaded slow-mo state, but it was still a great question!
@@wylldflower5628 Oh dear, very sorry to hear that - wishing you a speedy and full recovery
Mark is great - he comes across as very naughty but I find him very accurate.
People who are extremely intelligent like to play around with things/words/situations and have fun... little bit naughty, yes :)
Oh marianne.....I had a similar experience w my youngest.....when she pointed at her spot, she looked up at me w huge tears in her eyes....😭💔
Yes we made changes the very next day. She never went back to that classroom..... 1st grade🥺
Very sorry to hear that (like so many similar stories in this comment section) - but bravo for making the immediate change!
really enjoyed seeing Mark without the other behavioural panellists. Interesting what he had to say.
Thank so much, Pi. Really glad you enjoyed it. Yes, wasn't it good to hear a bit about Mark's opinion on particular episodes of The Behavior Panel? :)
Yep. Loaded with charm.
Yay mark!! 💋
Great interview. I have read Talking to Strangers and would love to see a conversation between Mark and Gladwell.
Great interview ❤️ Mark
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by!
When my brother died I could not stand up and talk. I was so devastated I knew I would not get through it. I had a friend read for me but that was a bad mistake. She did not have the emotional connection I had so the speech I had prepared did not sound like the way I was feeling. If that makes sense. Anyway my point is it is better to do it yourself. When my dad died I did get up and say what was in my heart. I made it through but it was so very hard.
Sorry to hear of your loss Nuna. Glad to hear that, even though it was super difficult, you managed to give your father the words that you wanted everyone to hear. A eulogy is so incredibly hard to even write, never mind to actually deliver in public. Bravo to you for getting through it
Great questions for Mark!
Thank you @MinecraftMonkeysAR111 - which was your favourite answer? :)
Being dyslexic,I was know as the bad seed. The devil's child. Private school nuns. Whoa. I agree that we are very creative,love learning.
Our little ones can work out amongst themselves.
FIMALLY worked put why.watching The B..P it is Mark that draws me in & feel it is that , yes He .resides In Canada as I now live in the USA.but we were Born & Grew up in England & have an outlook based on her Traditions that seep in regardless & then Canada still , in spite if size & geophysical differan as is NOT .a part of this equally large , diverse land . I enjoy most of those who do ' behaviour " frim psychologists onwards BUT Mark has that defensive humour & ability to ridicule himself even when making profound statements & makes him lLovable !!!
Yes, even though Mark is very knowledgable, he is also very humble, which is endearing. Thanks for commenting
I had a hoot here! Thanks. 100 horses would be fun.