The first contestant, Ms. Liza Redfield, whose line was conductor of the orchestra for Music Man, was in fact the very first woman to conduct the orchestra for a Broadway play. That was pretty big news on Broadway, so it surprises me that the panel did not guess her, particularly Dorothy who, of course, wrote the nationally-syndicated "The Voice of Broadway" column for the New Journal American from 1938 until her death in 1965. Ms. Redfield passed away in 2018 at the age of 94.
Thank you again for allowing me to watch Jerry Lewis .....May his comedic genius be remembered always ...a truly great artist .....just love him .....and the panel as well ....keep the uploads coming .....
My father was trumpeter for Jerry Lewis’ parents’s band in the Catskills, Liberty NY, prior to WW2. I met Joey Bishop years later in the gift shop of Harrah’s Marina Casino Atlantic City, in mid-90s.Never thought these two would intersect!
This was so brilliant! Jerry did such a wonderful job being as 'neutral' as possible and Bennett is so amazing at sniffing people out with so little information. Wonderful!
Cerf sniffed people out with little information; additionally he also appeared to have an amazing ability to 'hear', or divine the person's real voice despite efforts to disguise it.
She benefited from high pay per show and evidently used it to improve her hair and face. She had excellent results. She looks less luminous in the earliest shows.
I absolutely love Joey Bishop. I was too young at the time to appreciate him. I’m telling everyone that I am sooo attracted to him and his wit!Video(1960)
@@joeambrose3260 ,when you mention jerry lewis you think of a great humanitarian and entertainer.theres no other way to describe him.his personal life is his own business.if sammy davis jr.considered jerry lewis his brother,thats good enough for me.whether you accept it or not,jerry was adored by millions of people.they all cant be incorrect.thats a fact,not an opinion.from robert,the s.f.giant fan.
@@robertr8386 after he left his first wife he ignored all 6 of his sons .. He also beat them and mentally abused them. When I found that put I was shocked . But then again I'm 26 and seeing him on this show is all my knowledge of him.
After listening to John's and Joey's banter (5:46-7:31), one could wonder why they didn't work together in comedy. Their good-natured spars on WML? were great...
This was the single best episode of What's My Line. Bennett's pun made sense, Joey Bishop was the best guest panelist, and Arlene looked like an angel sent down to us from the heavens.
5 years later.. I'm on old guy, and remember watching WML on Sunday nights when my mom would let me stay up 30 minutes later. Arlene was always my favorite and I looked for her on TV. She wrote an autobiography several years before she died and it was terrific. She died in 2001, in her 90s from Alzheimers and cancer. I read just recently that her beloved son, Peter Gabel, died at age 75 a few weeks ago. He was on the show twice and fooled her both times. He had a great career as a scholarb and writer. The last few years of her life, she was with Peter in San Francisco where he had lived for a long time.
Good looking but I've always found his personality uncomfortable and mean. He always seemed like an angry man pretending to be pleasant and in his final years he dropped all pretense and was just unpleasant. Comedic genius does not pardon rude behavior. But the French loved him!
I liked him & felt he was misunderstood, until maybe the past 20 years. His reputation and demeanor deteriorated so much that I now feel I was wrong. At least one of his natural children, all of whom were left nothing of his large estate, consider him "an evil man". I'd call him an egotistical, troubled, insecure, jealous and inconsiderate man.
***** Groucho on WML in 1959-- my favorite episode of WML, no contest, and by far the most popular episode of the entire series (though there are plenty of people who can't stand it)! Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/p6wxrLjJobM/v-deo.html
graucho gut on my nerves after a while-too much interruption. Arlene put her hand on his arm @ one point. I thought to Keep him from being called down.
Though this lady was pretty enough to be one I though it strange Dorothy would ask that after earlier asking, and hearing confirmation, that more men do what she did than women. That certainly wouldn't have been true in 1960.
I just came here to say that sleeping bags are a perfectly normal thing to use on a bed, especially if you unzip them all the way and use it as a comforter.
When Ms. Redfield's occupation was revealed I was immediately reminded of La Maestra of the orchestra on Broadway's Frozen. Arlene Francis was such a tease with her occasional double entendres. Joey Bishop was major HA-HA funny.
Many of us have put a sleeping bag on a bed and we're not out camping. My teen slept in one for months on his bed instead of using sheets. He preferred that.
I didn't agree with the show either. There are situations like maybe an unorganized move where the bed is set up but all the sheets are missing. Also, a sleeping bag can be warmer. A friend who stays just one night who has been camping might say: I'll use my sleeping bag so I don't dirty your sheets.
I have done that for the past several years, in the 3rd decade of the 21st century. I'm just prepping myself for the day when I will officially be homeless.
John Daly quoting Churchill at 6:51 -- "This is a piece of insolence up with which I will not put." Lol. My father quotes that all the time! I'm not sure I ever knew it was from Winston Churchill, though -- or if I did, I'd forgotten.
Pygiana -- Supposedly, Lady Astor, whom Churchill hated, criticized him for ending a sentence with a preposition and he responded with, "Madam, everyone knows a preposition is the incorrect part of speech to end a sentence with. It is a situation up with which I will not put!" Could be an apocryphal attribution, as you suggest since it was supposedly said in conversation. Harry Truman told a story about Lady Astor (a transplanted Virginian) who criticized his plain MIssouri accent. All Truman could think to say in response was, "At least my accent is natural". (Lady Astor affected an English accent despite her American origins.) Truman said that Churchill was much better at responding to Lady Astor. At a party, she told Churchill, "You, sir, are very drunk!" Churchill responded, "And you, madam, are very ugly, whereas, in the morning, I shall be most indisputably sober."
Maybe so, but Harry Truman loved to tell the story about Churchill and Lady Astor, and Churchill definitely didn't like Lady Astor and she hated him. A lot of stories like that might not have really happened. Supposedly, Dorothy Parker and her archenemy Clare Boothe Luce arrived at the door of the 21 Club in New York simultaneous. Luce grabbed the door, held it open for Parker and said, "Age before beauty." Parker went in, turned and replied, "And pearls before swine". It probably didn't happen. There's also no written record of Parker's supposed statement in a review of "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand: "This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly; rather, it should be thrown with great force." Probably not true, but I read "Atlas Shrugged" and agree with the statement wholeheartedly.
To quote from a reviewer (at amazon.com) of a very funny parody of "Atlas Shrugged" titled "Atlas Drugged": "That 'thrown with great force' quote was misattributed to Parker by Bennett Cerf and has never been found in her writings about any book -- though it is now often attributed to her. And no review of any of Ayn Rand's writings is to be found in Parker's collected works."
@@StillLivingInMomsBasement It's entirely plausible that the comment was made to Cerf verbally. Parker and Cerf knew each other, and after all, people who hated the book blamed Cerf for publishing it.
hopicard He seemed much more at ease on this episode than on his first appearance as a panelist. I guess that having gone through the experience once, he felt more comfortable this time and was able to make jokes more readily.
hopicard -- I like his deadpan delivery of funny lines a lot -- at first, you don't realize he's making a joke and at the end of the comment, the humor sort of takes you by surprise.
I enjoy skipping the "reveal" of the profession and trying to guess along with the panel. Joey Bishop is a fun panelist. He couldn't keep his eye off of Ms. Redfield 12:19 . Can't blame him.
Bennett introduces John as "from the great state of Euphoria" tonight. Years later, in 1975, David Lodge would set part of his novel "Changing Places" at a state university in Euphoria, obviously a pseudonym for the University of California at Berkeley.
Wow. My chin dropped when they said 'coals to Newcastle'. Ok it may be a phrase...but still, I never thought I'd hear references to Newcastle and coalmining on this show. Even at the time, in England if it was said on the BBC it would be a surprise as they were SO 'London-centric'. Newcastle also happens to be my place of birth and I remember the 'coal' very well.... so it was nice to hear Dorothy say it, out of the blue. Mind you, I'm surprised she said it and yet still didn't know what the product was!
I'm a Yank of 62 years. I've been familiar with that expression all my life, although I used to hear it on the east coast more than I now hear it on the west coast. I'm sure it's not as common as it once was, but for persons of a certain generation(s), it is - or has been at times - ubiquitous.
@@larrygrebler5054 Newcastle is a coal mining city in England. There would be no point in bringing coals to Newcastle, the same way there would be no point in setting up a sleeping bag on a bed.
If you want to be pedantic, it's really a "verb phrase" or "phrasal verb" joke, if you mean the "up with which I will not put" line. The word that looks like a preposition is actually a modifier that gives a specific sense of meaning to the verb; it's acting more like an adverb than a preposition. Thus "put" just means "place" usually, while "put up" can be used to mean "construct" as in "put up a barn" or it can mean "prepare [food] for storage, as by canning", e.g. "putting up preserves," among other meanings, not all of which have any relationship to the prepositional sense of "up." "Put up with" is a phrasal verb meaning "tolerate," and unlike German with its separable prefixes, in English we keep the parts of a phrasal verb together, unless making wordplay like the joke attributed to Churchill.
With six minutes to go and Jerry Lewis not even on stage I'm AMAZED Daly didn't flip the cards earlier for the sleeping bag guy. He was up against the clock here! And Lewis isn't the type to reduce his airtime wilfully, shall we say. Phew!
It was the way the show was set up, to have the celebrity at the end but yes, it was really unfortunate to have Jerry on for such a short time. Of course..... in acts like musicians and magicians, the best one performs at the end, but that was... uncomfortable.
Does anyone besides myself tend to watch the clock nervously when the first two guests run long, afraid that there will be too little time for the celebrity guest?
It's somewhat enlightening to see how, 50+ years ago, women were rarely assumed to hold most jobs or most professions. Even after seeing Liza Redfield's pictures AND talking about her on the radio, Dorothy failed to see her as an orchestra conductor in person ! More strange is to consider how many roles were 'normal'or 'weird' depending on the setting - a man who cooked for his family at home was odd, yet a "Chef" was automatically assumed to be a man. I worked for a female restaurant owner who BOILED when people called her the "Chef-ette" or "Chef-ess". I admit to this failing - when I was in a hospital for an operation, they asked if I'd like to see their Chaplain, who happened to be Episcopalian (as I am) ... but when a woman appeared, I was so flustered that I declined to take Communion with her, and she felt insulted beyond forgiving me when I saw her later, and I tried to explain.
She was the first female maestro FOR A BROADWAY SHOW. Other female maestros had conducted orchestras around the world since the late 1800's-turn of 20th Century.
A clip of Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis as mystery guests from the lost 1/24/54 episode was shown in a very early GSN "Black & White Overnight" promo. The clip may have come from the 1975 "At 25" Special. And the 1/24/54 show might not be lost after all. It might still exist in Jerry Lewis' archives. He virtually always made it a point to get a copy of every single one of his film and television appearances.
Vahan Nisanian If that's the case, I wonder if now that Jerry has passed on that show , and some of the other material he saved over the years, might eventually be made available for public viewing once his estate has been sorted out. ( And I know what a long process that can be, having been an executor for my Mum's will, and she was just an ordinary person, not rich and famous with a complicated legacy to process.)
Or one of the panel had them around for lunch last week. The point of the "celebrity" section of WsML? is not the clever ferreting- out of helpful clues, as with Joe Blow 'guests'. In many instances it's a mutually beneficial exchange, in that a currently active celeb (actor, sportsman or other entertainer) can use the opportunity to publicize a current or upcoming show, film or sporting event, and WsML? can get the kudos, cachet and audience for having "stars" on their show. In addition, I think John Daly & the regular panelists like to rub shoulders with other, more popular celebrities.
Maybe WML should have been the subject of a congressional hearing, after they wrapped up with Herb Stempel and Charles Van Doren, for suspicious activities? 😆 And did these anonymous challengers ever receive the $0 to $50, for stumping the panel, in legal tender - or was it the equivalent of Monopoly play money? Maybe they got $50 worth of Stopette at and Poof! from the famous cosmetic chemist, Dr. Jules Montenier? If John Cameron Swayze had been the host, they would have at least likely gotten a good Timex ⌚ out of the deal.
At 8:33 Arlene is staring at the contestant and she looks deep in thought like she knows she's seen her somewhere before. They also mention that Dorothy had mentioned the orchestra conductor on the show before. Anyone know what episode that would be on?
It's strange how Jerry Lewis went from a likable guy in the 50's and 60's but seemed to get more surly and egotistical in the 70's and beyond. He was especially difficult in interviews as he got older.
Kinda shows you what extreme wealth can do to a person. They call them kings and Queens in some countries. And what really puts the icing on the cake is when you learn how they got the wealth. Then you feel like you've had to much cake, sick?✌
I was wondering if you could upload the episode with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin together as the mystery guest? I saw a clip from someone else and it looked so funny!
There's no known copy of the episode in circulation. That clip comes from the "WML at 25" retrospective in 1975, and as far as we know it's all that survives. The Goodson-Todman copy of that episode was apparently irreparably damaged during the editing for the special. It's possible Jerry Lewis has his own personal copy of it, obsessive self-documentarian that he is, but it's not known at this point.
What's My Line? On the same subject, did Dean ever appear on the show on his own, as Jerry did it several times solo. And, if so, is that episode available?
Being English I would need to @ some of these people: it was great to just see Sean Connery. Bishop is good for the show. I've never been into Game Shows, however, this has charm.
***** how old were you ? thats so sweet. People hate him for his arrogance. Thats what i like about him. HE speaks his mind...His comedy has his own JL stamp on it.
Dorothy thought the first contestant, Liza Redfield, conductor of the orchestra in "The Music Man", looked familiar and asked if she were a stripper in "Gypsy". Ms. Redfield will also be a contestant on To Tell the Truth in a few months (11/14/60). I wonder if she looked familiar to anyone on that panel as well?
Well Joey was also part of the Rat Pack and they were using the type of comedy stuff Jerry invented with Dean, so he must have felt pretty cheesed off, not to mention left out.
Ha! I know what cartoon you're thinking of-- the Ant and Aardvark series. The aardvark was actually played by a guy named John Byner, a famous impressionist of the time. The voices are similar, but Byner was trying to sound like another well-known comedian, Jackie Mason, not Joey Bishop. The ant's voice (also Byner) was supposed to be a take off on Dean Martin's.
All the entertainers guesting on the show are promoting local movies mostly or Broadway and so they are laying for them. Always just a formality guessing them.
While staying in the Whitehouse Churchill saw the ghost of Abraham Lincoln just as he got out of the bath. “Mr. Lincoln , I believe you have me at a slight disadvantage.” He said
Mr. Abramson really does not look 42 here, but he is. Was. Tenses, me! Anyway, so he was in WWII as, eventually, a Captain in the Army. Then had an Army Store until '57, and his sleeping bag company (which I assume dealt with more than sleeping bags) from '57-68. (In fact, it was Wilson-Ranger because it merged a sleeping bag company and a bowling bag company. But of course!) Was a partner in a braided wire (and textile) company until he retired. (Which has much wider applications than you'd think at first.) got married in 1943 (presumably while on leave), and had 3 kids. Died in 2000.
Someonez Mom It would be frowned on now, but at that time if the guest had been an attractive woman there would have been a lot of wolf-whistles from the audience. As there were only cheers, it was a pretty safe assumption that it was a man.
Peter Piper -- They're still not. Women are allowed to remain seated while shaking hands, and there's a rule that a man does not extend his hand to a woman in an expectation that she should shake hands with him. If the woman extends her hand, then a man can and should shake hands with her. With two women, either one can extend a hand to the other but if neither does, they aren't required to shake hands. In a business environment nowadays, though, a woman ought to forego the rule voluntarily and always extend her hand when she is introduced because, in business people are expected to shake hands when they are introduced. If a woman is seated behind a desk, she doesn't have to stand to shake hands, but many businesswomen today don't want to seem as different from or less equal than men in business.
Some of the people there having the unknown job seem to get annoyed with Daly, the way he butts in with the remarks, it is intrusive, and some guests rarely get to talk. Teens having a slumber party would use sleeping bags in a bedroom...Dorothy couldn't understand the bedroom part of using sleeping bags.
What makes celebrities show up for a chance to win 50 dollars? Maybe required by their Studio or those who hold their contract or a chance to advertise their book, movie, or themselves.
Instead of asking "Is it....?" Kilgallen asks "May I assume it's Not..." which could involve Every thing in the known universe AND of course that the camera is on her for AGES. She also takes her sweet time asking. Cerf was right, she does hog the camera.
Lewis' comment "this must be rigged' deserved the uncomfortable expression from Daly right before he deflected with "did you hear the rousing cheers from the audience when you walked on?" and Lewis defaulted to the usual unconvincing humility mode that is noticeable in celebrities, particularly comics. I did like this post because of the sleeping bag runaround, ha! and also when the calm demeanor of the conductor was broken by heartfelt laughter when Kilgallen threw out "strippers."
Pronker Pronker I know that there was once a big scandal in America about quiz shows being ‘rigged’ and certain contestants being given the answers to questions, but those were big-money contests with huge prizes. I don’t see why they would do that here because the sums involved are so small that there doesn’t seem any point.
I can't help but think that the panel had some idea that it was Jerry. Despite the hooping, hollering, and whistles Joey Bishop knew it was a 'sir', and the progression of questioning seemed...odd.
The panel was usually pretty hip to which major celebrities were in town -- Bennett mentioned in an interview that he and the others would voraciously read the columns prior to the show to have an idea of who might be the Mystery Guest that week. So if Jerry were in town on a junket to promote "The Bellboy," they certainly would have had him in mind -- and the audience response usually tipped them off if the MG was male or female (wolf whistles or catcalls normally accompanied the female celebs).
"Are You One of the Strippers, in Gypsy,?" .. First take.. ...that's funny. But as I'm going back over this episode again I'm not sure if that's a compliment. Or if that's VERY Low indeed .. 🤔🤨😐😬😬😬😬😬😬 What A PRETTY, LOVELY Smile though ! 🎨🌈
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This show is like a dream. Did it really happen? Was something this grand on television?
TV has never been this good.
Yes it was and it did. The earliest, 1950s, ones were my favorites
@Marilyn Willett: Never politically correct? These people sound correct in every way to me. The point of being politically correct is to not offend.
I have become such a fan of this show. I never relised Joey Bishop was so darn funny. Love the camaraderie of the cast. Thank you.
Agree. Joey Bishop cracks me up!!
Jerry Lewis and Joey Bishop -- two stellar comedians. Truly the golden age of television and film.
The first contestant, Ms. Liza Redfield, whose line was conductor of the orchestra for Music Man, was in fact the very first woman to conduct the orchestra for a Broadway play. That was pretty big news on Broadway, so it surprises me that the panel did not guess her, particularly Dorothy who, of course, wrote the nationally-syndicated "The Voice of Broadway" column for the New Journal American from 1938 until her death in 1965. Ms. Redfield passed away in 2018 at the age of 94.
Sam, you forgot to mention her gender status when she died. By the way, may I ask which pronoun do you use?
@@errorsofmodernism7331, Are you trying to be funny? If not, what tf is the point, if you're actually able to articulate it?
It's the 60s. The women's hair styles have considerably improved.
I love Joey Bishop. Arlene and Dorothy looked better here than when this program began. Guess I gave myself away as a WML junkie.
Yes, it was a rare "stupidity moment" for Dorothy, and also for the others. They all had heard about miss Redfield of course.
Bishop: How come its my turn, but they're all talking?? OMG! PRICELESS!!!😆😄😁
I love Joey Bishop!
I know; hilarious!
Great line.
Thank you again for allowing me to watch Jerry Lewis .....May his comedic genius be remembered always ...a truly great artist .....just love him .....and the panel as well ....keep the uploads coming .....
My father was trumpeter for Jerry Lewis’ parents’s band in the Catskills, Liberty NY, prior to WW2. I met Joey Bishop years later in the gift shop of Harrah’s Marina Casino Atlantic City, in mid-90s.Never thought these two would intersect!
Can’t get enough of these marvelous episodes!!
Bishop is simply hilarious 😆 such a natural
I agree. He is cool, smart, funny.
My theory is that Bishop and Newhart were competing to see who could be the most sedate, but nobody tops Hitchcock.
His career ran out of gas when he upset the chairman of the board.
Joey Bishop's performance really adds to this segment!
He is one of my favorite guest panelists in WML history.........
Comparable to those of Steve Allen!
I loved Joey Bishop!
Mr. Bishop has such a serious look about him, which makes it even more hilarious.
I love Mr Daly's clarifications!
“Clarifications”? Is that what they are?
Sir Humphrey Appleby would have been proud.
@@SonnyBubba for some people ..
All In Perspective.
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This was so brilliant! Jerry did such a wonderful job being as 'neutral' as possible and Bennett is so amazing at sniffing people out with so little information. Wonderful!
Cerf sniffed people out with little information; additionally he also appeared to have an amazing ability to 'hear', or divine the person's real voice despite efforts to disguise it.
Merrida100 smell him getting off the elevator.... lol
The regular panel got a lot of Clues from the audience reaction to the questions.
Arlene’s so beautiful in every show and she’s one of my favorite panelist.
She benefited from high pay per show and evidently used it to improve her hair and face.
She had excellent results.
She looks less luminous in the earliest shows.
Jerry was 34 years old here. He was so handsome!
I love Joey Bishop's dry humor.
I really enjoy Joey Bishop.
I absolutely love Joey Bishop. I was too young at the time to appreciate him.
I’m telling everyone that I am sooo attracted to him and his wit!Video(1960)
Jerry is such a special person! he has so much carisma!
A brilliantly talented entertainer.. but an absolutely miserable human being.
Look up the words irritating and egotistical and you'll see Jerrys' picture
@@joeambrose3260 ,when you mention jerry lewis you think of a great humanitarian and entertainer.theres no other way to describe him.his personal life is his own business.if sammy davis jr.considered jerry lewis his brother,thats good enough for me.whether you accept it or not,jerry was adored by millions of people.they all cant be incorrect.thats a fact,not an opinion.from robert,the s.f.giant fan.
@@robertr8386 after he left his first wife he ignored all 6 of his sons ..
He also beat them and mentally abused them. When I found that put I was shocked . But then again I'm 26 and seeing him on this show is all my knowledge of him.
"Carisma" perhaps, but charisma no.
After listening to John's and Joey's banter (5:46-7:31), one could wonder why they didn't work together in comedy. Their good-natured spars on WML? were great...
This was the single best episode of What's My Line. Bennett's pun made sense, Joey Bishop was the best guest panelist, and Arlene looked like an angel sent down to us from the heavens.
Joey was hilarious in this episode… no one ever matched his incredible timing and rapier wit on the WML panel.
What!?! Bennet made a pun that made sense? And nobody winced or groaned? Will wonders never cease.
Arlene is 53 years old here... and she looks amazingly beautiful.
No way! Really? She looks like she's always about 30. She is one of the most beautiful and witty people ever.
@Oona Craig must be cold under your bridge
@Oona Craig That's not a nice thing to say about Armenians.
Black and white plus a lot of light. Very complimentary.
5 years later.. I'm on old guy, and remember watching WML on Sunday nights when my mom would let me stay up 30 minutes later. Arlene was always my favorite and I looked for her on TV. She wrote an autobiography several years before she died and it was terrific. She died in 2001, in her 90s from Alzheimers and cancer. I read just recently that her beloved son, Peter Gabel, died at age 75 a few weeks ago. He was on the show twice and fooled her both times. He had a great career as a scholarb and writer. The last few years of her life, she was with Peter in San Francisco where he had lived for a long time.
No matter what they say about his character, Jerry was a good looking bloke.
totally! Very sexy!
I agree. I also think Joey Bishop was good looking.
Good looking but I've always found his personality uncomfortable and mean. He always seemed like an angry man pretending to be pleasant and in his final years he dropped all pretense and was just unpleasant. Comedic genius does not pardon rude behavior. But the French loved him!
Since watching tv footage from 50's. I was blown away how handsome he was.
I liked him & felt he was misunderstood, until maybe the past 20 years. His reputation and demeanor deteriorated so much that I now feel I was wrong. At least one of his natural children, all of whom were left nothing of his large estate, consider him "an evil man". I'd call him an egotistical, troubled, insecure, jealous and inconsiderate man.
Dorothy: "Are you one of the strippers in 'Gypsy'?" - LOL!!!
Might have been her funniest question in the history of the show.
***** Groucho on WML in 1959-- my favorite episode of WML, no contest, and by far the most popular episode of the entire series (though there are plenty of people who can't stand it)!
Here it is:
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And she said that with a straight face.
graucho gut on my nerves after a while-too much interruption. Arlene put her hand on his arm @ one point. I thought to Keep him from being called down.
Though this lady was pretty enough to be one I though it strange Dorothy would ask that after earlier asking, and hearing confirmation, that more men do what she did than women. That certainly wouldn't have been true in 1960.
I just came here to say that sleeping bags are a perfectly normal thing to use on a bed, especially if you unzip them all the way and use it as a comforter.
When Ms. Redfield's occupation was revealed I was immediately reminded of La Maestra of the orchestra on Broadway's Frozen.
Arlene Francis was such a tease with her occasional double entendres. Joey Bishop was major HA-HA funny.
I enjoy today's oldies on DVD.
Never realized how clever Joey Bishop was.
I never realized Joey Bishop.
Many of us have put a sleeping bag on a bed and we're not out camping. My teen slept in one for months on his bed instead of using sheets. He preferred that.
I didn't agree with the show either. There are situations like maybe an unorganized move where the bed is set up but all the sheets are missing. Also, a sleeping bag can be warmer. A friend who stays just one night who has been camping might say: I'll use my sleeping bag so I don't dirty your sheets.
It was different times. Sleeping bags were made only for army, scouts... nowdays, they are with many colours and light materials
I have done that for the past several years, in the 3rd decade of the 21st century. I'm just prepping myself for the day when I will officially be homeless.
John Daly quoting Churchill at 6:51 -- "This is a piece of insolence up with which I will not put." Lol. My father quotes that all the time! I'm not sure I ever knew it was from Winston Churchill, though -- or if I did, I'd forgotten.
Pygiana -- Supposedly, Lady Astor, whom Churchill hated, criticized him for ending a sentence with a preposition and he responded with, "Madam, everyone knows a preposition is the incorrect part of speech to end a sentence with. It is a situation up with which I will not put!" Could be an apocryphal attribution, as you suggest since it was supposedly said in conversation. Harry Truman told a story about Lady Astor (a transplanted Virginian) who criticized his plain MIssouri accent. All Truman could think to say in response was, "At least my accent is natural". (Lady Astor affected an English accent despite her American origins.) Truman said that Churchill was much better at responding to Lady Astor. At a party, she told Churchill, "You, sir, are very drunk!" Churchill responded, "And you, madam, are very ugly, whereas, in the morning, I shall be most indisputably sober."
Maybe so, but Harry Truman loved to tell the story about Churchill and Lady Astor, and Churchill definitely didn't like Lady Astor and she hated him. A lot of stories like that might not have really happened. Supposedly, Dorothy Parker and her archenemy Clare Boothe Luce arrived at the door of the 21 Club in New York simultaneous. Luce grabbed the door, held it open for Parker and said, "Age before beauty." Parker went in, turned and replied, "And pearls before swine". It probably didn't happen. There's also no written record of Parker's supposed statement in a review of "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand: "This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly; rather, it should be thrown with great force." Probably not true, but I read "Atlas Shrugged" and agree with the statement wholeheartedly.
To quote from a reviewer (at amazon.com) of a very funny parody of "Atlas Shrugged" titled "Atlas Drugged": "That 'thrown with great force' quote was misattributed to Parker by
Bennett Cerf and has never been found in her writings about any book -- though it is now often attributed to her. And no review of any of Ayn Rand's writings is to be found in Parker's collected works."
@@StillLivingInMomsBasement It's entirely plausible that the comment was made to Cerf verbally. Parker and Cerf knew each other, and after all, people who hated the book blamed Cerf for publishing it.
oh how I loved Joey Bishop!
On first sight, I always think that I don't like Joey Bishop. But after a while I like him very much :)
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He seemed much more at ease on this episode than on his first appearance as a panelist. I guess that having gone through the experience once, he felt more comfortable this time and was able to make jokes more readily.
hopicard -- I like his deadpan delivery of funny lines a lot -- at first, you don't realize he's making a joke and at the end of the comment, the humor sort of takes you by surprise.
10:50 Dorothy made my day, lmao
Except as a circle! I love Dorothy.
Loved Jerry Lewis 🥰
I enjoy skipping the "reveal" of the profession and trying to guess along with the panel. Joey Bishop is a fun panelist. He couldn't keep his eye off of Ms. Redfield 12:19 . Can't blame him.
Bennett introduces John as "from the great state of Euphoria" tonight. Years later, in 1975, David Lodge would set part of his novel "Changing Places" at a state university in Euphoria, obviously a pseudonym for the University of California at Berkeley.
Joey Bishop was SO deadpan. 😂
Wow. My chin dropped when they said 'coals to Newcastle'. Ok it may be a phrase...but still, I never thought I'd hear references to Newcastle and coalmining on this show. Even at the time, in England if it was said on the BBC it would be a surprise as they were SO 'London-centric'.
Newcastle also happens to be my place of birth and I remember the 'coal' very well.... so it was nice to hear Dorothy say it, out of the blue. Mind you, I'm surprised she said it and yet still didn't know what the product was!
I'm a Yank of 62 years. I've been familiar with that expression all my life, although I used to hear it on the east coast more than I now hear it on the west coast. I'm sure it's not as common as it once was, but for persons of a certain generation(s), it is - or has been at times - ubiquitous.
@@crabbyoldman8209 I'm 61 from Long Island NY and don't have a clue as to what the hell you all are talking about?
@@larrygrebler5054 Newcastle is a coal mining city in England. There would be no point in bringing coals to Newcastle, the same way there would be no point in setting up a sleeping bag on a bed.
@@Kwekubo Thank you!
I've been familiar with "coals to Newcastle" my entire life.
A very funny talented actor and comedian.
I adore a good prepositional-phrase joke.
If you want to be pedantic, it's really a "verb phrase" or "phrasal verb" joke, if you mean the "up with which I will not put" line. The word that looks like a preposition is actually a modifier that gives a specific sense of meaning to the verb; it's acting more like an adverb than a preposition. Thus "put" just means "place" usually, while "put up" can be used to mean "construct" as in "put up a barn" or it can mean "prepare [food] for storage, as by canning", e.g. "putting up preserves," among other meanings, not all of which have any relationship to the prepositional sense of "up." "Put up with" is a phrasal verb meaning "tolerate," and unlike German with its separable prefixes, in English we keep the parts of a phrasal verb together, unless making wordplay like the joke attributed to Churchill.
I too a prepositional phrase enjoy. Especially when at the end of the sentence it comes.
@@neilmidkiff THANK YOU!!!!!
@@bluecamus5162 : So why end yours with verbs? :D
Joey can do deadpan remarkably well. So straight-laced. Hilarious! 🤣
Always like this show. Watched the show all the time.
Mr Daly is a great host. I am 9.
Jerry Lewis and Joey Bishop what more could you want ?
With six minutes to go and Jerry Lewis not even on stage I'm AMAZED Daly didn't flip the cards earlier for the sleeping bag guy. He was up against the clock here! And Lewis isn't the type to reduce his airtime wilfully, shall we say. Phew!
It was the way the show was set up, to have the celebrity at the end but yes, it was really unfortunate to have Jerry on for such a short time.
Of course..... in acts like musicians and magicians, the best one performs at the end, but that was... uncomfortable.
Does anyone besides myself tend to watch the clock nervously when the first two guests run long, afraid that there will be too little time for the celebrity guest?
No, not at all.
@Kenneth Latham.
Put your mind at ease, they paid bigger bucks for the celebrity guest so they would be sure to use them.
It's somewhat enlightening to see how, 50+ years ago, women were rarely assumed to hold most jobs or most professions. Even after seeing Liza Redfield's pictures AND talking about her on the radio, Dorothy failed to see her as an orchestra conductor in person ! More strange is to consider how many roles were 'normal'or 'weird' depending on the setting - a man who cooked for his family at home was odd, yet a "Chef" was automatically assumed to be a man. I worked for a female restaurant owner who BOILED when people called her the "Chef-ette" or "Chef-ess". I admit to this failing - when I was in a hospital for an operation, they asked if I'd like to see their Chaplain, who happened to be Episcopalian (as I am) ... but when a woman appeared, I was so flustered that I declined to take Communion with her, and she felt insulted beyond forgiving me when I saw her later, and I tried to explain.
"Lady" conductor, lady plumber, lady doctor...instead of just conductor, plumber, doctor, etc
With behavior such as that, i would say she wasnt a very good pastor.
wow- a female maestro in 1960? impressive
She was the first female maestro FOR A BROADWAY SHOW. Other female maestros had conducted orchestras around the world since the late 1800's-turn of 20th Century.
A clip of Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis as mystery guests from the lost 1/24/54 episode was shown in a very early GSN "Black & White Overnight" promo. The clip may have come from the 1975 "At 25" Special.
And the 1/24/54 show might not be lost after all. It might still exist in Jerry Lewis' archives. He virtually always made it a point to get a copy of every single one of his film and television appearances.
Vahan Nisanian If that's the case, I wonder if now that Jerry has passed on that show , and some of the other material he saved over the years, might eventually be made available for public viewing once his estate has been sorted out. ( And I know what a long process that can be, having been an executor for my Mum's will, and she was just an ordinary person, not rich and famous with a complicated legacy to process.)
Joey bishop was so dead pan. 😂
This was live, so the hard time limit.
The celebrity guest always comes when their movie is coming out which makes the whole thing kind of easy and pointless in terms of being a game.
Right
It's so annoying
Or one of the panel had them around for lunch last week.
The point of the "celebrity" section of WsML? is not the clever ferreting- out of helpful clues, as with Joe Blow 'guests'. In many instances it's a mutually beneficial exchange, in that a currently active celeb (actor, sportsman or other entertainer) can use the opportunity to publicize a current or upcoming show, film or sporting event, and WsML? can get the kudos, cachet and audience for having "stars" on their show. In addition, I think John Daly & the regular panelists like to rub shoulders with other, more popular celebrities.
Maybe WML should have been the subject of a congressional hearing, after they wrapped up with Herb Stempel and Charles Van Doren, for suspicious activities? 😆 And did these anonymous challengers ever receive the $0 to $50, for stumping the panel, in legal tender - or was it the equivalent of Monopoly play money? Maybe they got $50 worth of Stopette at and Poof! from the famous cosmetic chemist, Dr. Jules Montenier? If John Cameron Swayze had been the host, they would have at least likely gotten a good Timex ⌚ out of the deal.
At 8:33 Arlene is staring at the contestant and she looks deep in thought like she knows she's seen her somewhere before.
They also mention that Dorothy had mentioned the orchestra conductor on the show before. Anyone know what episode that would be on?
I assume it was on her radio show, which was still going at that point.
Daly ended the show and sentence “with” a preposition! Very Clever old boy!
Joey is absolutely 😂!
Hell...Joey Bishop could probably smell Jerry in the room .
It's strange how Jerry Lewis went from a likable guy in the 50's and 60's but seemed to get more surly and egotistical in the 70's and beyond. He was especially difficult in interviews as he got older.
Kinda shows you what extreme wealth can do to a person. They call them kings and Queens in some countries. And what really puts the icing on the cake is when you learn how they got the wealth. Then you feel like you've had to much cake, sick?✌
I suppose he got even more surly and less likable after his dealings with Rupert Pupkin.
I was wondering if you could upload the episode with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin together as the mystery guest? I saw a clip from someone else and it looked so funny!
There's no known copy of the episode in circulation. That clip comes from the "WML at 25" retrospective in 1975, and as far as we know it's all that survives. The Goodson-Todman copy of that episode was apparently irreparably damaged during the editing for the special. It's possible Jerry Lewis has his own personal copy of it, obsessive self-documentarian that he is, but it's not known at this point.
+What's My Line?
Aww, bummer. At least there's a small fragment which still makes me laugh. Thank you again, Gary.
What's My Line? On the same subject, did Dean ever appear on the show on his own, as Jerry did it several times solo. And, if so, is that episode available?
@@lindashelley3635 to my knowledge Matt Helm never did.
But that's twice (or thrice) removed and that's (Definitely) Not ironclad.
what clothes they wear!!! Just astonishing what a style and modesty, not the modesty and the style of nowadays.
I always comment on that.
Being English I would need to @ some of these people: it was great to just see Sean Connery. Bishop is good for the show. I've never been into Game Shows, however, this has charm.
“Are you one of the strippers in ‘Gypsy’?”
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There are many possible reasons why someone would use a sleeping bag on top of a bed. I have done it for convenience sake.
I've done it for warmth in cool weather rather than turning on the furnace to heat the whole house.
I absolutely loved Music Man. Robert Preston was fantastic as Professor Harold Hill
Joey Bishop, apart from being very funny, is a really classy guy.
Whose Line Is It Anyway?
jerry is the consumate clown but he is brilliant in more ways than one...love him
jessie james -- Have you considered moving to France? :-)
***** how old were you ? thats so sweet. People hate him for his arrogance. Thats what i like about him. HE speaks his mind...His comedy has his own JL stamp on it.
***** i agree with you :)
@@ToddSF or Italy, or Germany , or Portugal...Jerry is much loved everywhere in the world! :)
Dorothy uses Ernie Kovack's line, Can it be folded 😊
Dorothy thought the first contestant, Liza Redfield, conductor of the orchestra in "The Music Man", looked familiar and asked if she were a stripper in "Gypsy". Ms. Redfield will also be a contestant on To Tell the Truth in a few months (11/14/60). I wonder if she looked familiar to anyone on that panel as well?
She looks like Diana Muldaur
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Jerry and Joey seem cordial enough here, but supposedly they couldn't stand eachother. Their comedic styles are basically polar opposite.
Well Joey was also part of the Rat Pack and they were using the type of comedy stuff Jerry invented with Dean, so he must have felt pretty cheesed off, not to mention left out.
Just think Vegas that started the rift between the comics
Mr Bishop is funny, did he play an anteater in a cartoon?
Ha! I know what cartoon you're thinking of-- the Ant and Aardvark series. The aardvark was actually played by a guy named John Byner, a famous impressionist of the time. The voices are similar, but Byner was trying to sound like another well-known comedian, Jackie Mason, not Joey Bishop. The ant's voice (also Byner) was supposed to be a take off on Dean Martin's.
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Are you polska?
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I love history.
Were your grand parents fighting for the British in world war 2 and stayed in England.
+oldfart4751 Was does "nicked" mean?
+Horace Ball Pilfered.
All the entertainers guesting on the show are promoting local movies mostly or Broadway and so they are laying for them. Always just a formality guessing them.
The show was filmed live from New York, and the regular panelists needed to keep up with the broadway scene for their other jobs.
While staying in the Whitehouse Churchill saw the ghost of Abraham Lincoln just as he got out of the bath.
“Mr. Lincoln , I believe you have me at a slight disadvantage.” He said
That's pretty funny and you are a funny guy.
Mr. Abramson really does not look 42 here, but he is. Was. Tenses, me! Anyway, so he was in WWII as, eventually, a Captain in the Army. Then had an Army Store until '57, and his sleeping bag company (which I assume dealt with more than sleeping bags) from '57-68. (In fact, it was Wilson-Ranger because it merged a sleeping bag company and a bowling bag company. But of course!) Was a partner in a braided wire (and textile) company until he retired. (Which has much wider applications than you'd think at first.) got married in 1943 (presumably while on leave), and had 3 kids. Died in 2000.
How old is Arlene now?
She died in 2001 at the age of 93. If she was still alive today, she'd be 113. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlene_Francis
I think she passed at 93 yrs old
Joey Bishop is funny and pretty damn attractive.
What was with Jerry’s mouth movements?
They do not make them like this anymore.
My husband puts a sleeping bag on top of the blankets if he is extra cold!
I have a sleeping bag that I use as a duvet .
It's amazing how often the panel can't hear what a celebrity guest is saying...and they never sorted out that irritating problem.
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Saw "The Music Man" back in early 2000s.
lol I like how Joey Bishop assumed it was a man because of the audience cheers
Someonez Mom It would be frowned on now, but at that time if the guest had been an attractive woman there would have been a lot of wolf-whistles from the audience. As there were only cheers, it was a pretty safe assumption that it was a man.
Looks like he could be Travoltas daf.
12:24 It's interesting that women weren't expected to stand up to shake hands in 1960.
Peter Piper -- They're still not. Women are allowed to remain seated while shaking hands, and there's a rule that a man does not extend his hand to a woman in an expectation that she should shake hands with him. If the woman extends her hand, then a man can and should shake hands with her. With two women, either one can extend a hand to the other but if neither does, they aren't required to shake hands. In a business environment nowadays, though, a woman ought to forego the rule voluntarily and always extend her hand when she is introduced because, in business people are expected to shake hands when they are introduced. If a woman is seated behind a desk, she doesn't have to stand to shake hands, but many businesswomen today don't want to seem as different from or less equal than men in business.
ToddSF 94109 So much for full equality.
Some of the people there having the unknown job seem to get annoyed with Daly, the way he butts in with the remarks, it is intrusive, and some guests rarely get to talk. Teens having a slumber party would use sleeping bags in a bedroom...Dorothy couldn't understand the bedroom part of using sleeping bags.
I would think that teens having a slumber party would typically have it in the basement or the living room as opposed to the bedroom.
What makes celebrities show up for a chance to win 50 dollars? Maybe required by their Studio or those who hold their contract or a chance to advertise their book, movie, or themselves.
Obviously. And more airtime for them.
Many mystery guests admit to watching the show. They came on because they liked it?
For fun and publicity.
They were paid more for their appearance.
Instead of asking "Is it....?" Kilgallen asks "May I assume it's Not..." which could involve Every thing in the known universe AND of course that the camera is on her for AGES. She also takes her sweet time asking. Cerf was right, she does hog the camera.
Lewis' comment "this must be rigged' deserved the uncomfortable expression from Daly right before he deflected with "did you hear the rousing cheers from the audience when you walked on?" and Lewis defaulted to the usual unconvincing humility mode that is noticeable in celebrities, particularly comics. I did like this post because of the sleeping bag runaround, ha! and also when the calm demeanor of the conductor was broken by heartfelt laughter when Kilgallen threw out "strippers."
Pronker Pronker I know that there was once a big scandal in America about quiz shows being ‘rigged’ and certain contestants being given the answers to questions, but those were big-money contests with huge prizes. I don’t see why they would do that here because the sums involved are so small that there doesn’t seem any point.
@@lindashelley3635 I agree. I doubt this show was rigged. What would have been the point? Jerry Lewis, big name star, walked off with only $10.
what????? no MZ?
Why did the panel assume the mystery guest was a man and not a woman?
CONDUCTS ORCHESTRA FOR BROADWAY SHOW "THE MUSIC MAN"
MANUFACTURES SLEEPING BAGS
I can't help but think that the panel had some idea that it was Jerry. Despite the hooping, hollering, and whistles Joey Bishop knew it was a 'sir', and the progression of questioning seemed...odd.
The panel was usually pretty hip to which major celebrities were in town -- Bennett mentioned in an interview that he and the others would voraciously read the columns prior to the show to have an idea of who might be the Mystery Guest that week. So if Jerry were in town on a junket to promote "The Bellboy," they certainly would have had him in mind -- and the audience response usually tipped them off if the MG was male or female (wolf whistles or catcalls normally accompanied the female celebs).
"Are You One of the Strippers, in Gypsy,?" ..
First take.. ...that's funny. But as I'm going back over this episode again I'm not sure if that's a compliment. Or if that's VERY Low indeed ..
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What A PRETTY, LOVELY Smile though !
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I met Jerry.. about 30 years ago. Complete a hole.
The king of comedy.
I heard that I saw a interview he was acting so annoyed
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Joey forgot about make-up for his ears
Lord what did Dorothy do to her hair ? Huge bump on top..she usually looks so much better...whoa
Are you one of the strippers in Gypsy? I thought she was the one who lights up! Hilarious!
Joey should know never to end a sentence with a preposition.
Since he so often starts one with a proposition! ha ha
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