"You have given me the shield of your salvation, and your right hand supported me"-Psalm 18:35" "Your right hand will find out those who hate you."-Psalm 21:8 “I will stretch out my hand against Judah"-Zephania 1:4
@@RenneDanjouleThis does not prove the movement or the exact position of the hand. And are you also trying to use Christianism sources for your n&zism?
@@ChronosHellas Nationalism. Nations, going out to convert them, gathering them under a banner. I can easily justify Nazism thusly, fighting the enemies of Christ and the Church. Freemasons and atheistical communism in the form of Judeo-Bolshevist anti-national socialist internationalism. The Christian religious and political order the freemasons seek to destroy as per Pope Leo XIII, Humanum genus. Try harder, that type of "argument" might work with your average american "intellect".
It's true that that exact motion comes from David but it became popular within Italian culture because of the classic Italian film Cabiria (1914). A video on that film would be interesting considering it is one of the first Roman historical epics.
Yeah. I don't remember the exact role that D'Annunzio played in it's creation, but he did work on it and later adopted the salute for the Italian fascist movement.
Cabiria is also one of the very first movies with special effects (the volcano eruption) and superheroes (the giant actor, naturally built like so) ever.
@@RomabooRamblings D’Annunzio never was member of Fascist party. He did use it when marching for Fiume and made it the official military salute of his Regency once there and other Italian nationalist movements (including the fascists) also adopted it.
0:20 For those who don't know what this painting is about, it represents the oath of the three Horatii brothers, who, during the reign of Tullus Hostilius, decided to end once and for all the never-ending conflicts between Rome and Alba Longa through a direct confrontation against the three brothers of a family from the enemy city. There is in fact a 1961 film about this conflict called "Duel of Champions", which was directed by the famous Terence Fisher (known for directing the first James Bond films).
We still do it in Brazil. And I think other militaries out there still do it as well. If Americans stopped doing it I doubt it has to do with mustache man and it was probably a restyling of American parades.
@@Mika-me3og I know, we got a similar fine as well. But as you know we don't care about rules, especially if they are stupid. Once I purposely did the salute in front of policemen to see their reaction and they didn't care at all.
@@Imperius_Rex_753 I'm pretty sure people get called "Nazis" for wanting laws to be enforced these days. I say we should just do it. If you see someone in a store looking at a Roman history book, just give them the ol' Roman salute and walk off without saying anything, as if it were the most normal thing in the world. In time, it will catch on, for sure. Perfect plan.
@@PunishedlLongshanks 😂 I dare uou to do that. Also we don't have Roman history books in our book stores. It's been 2000 years but everyone are still pissed over Titus and Hadrian
@@vercot7000 that gesture means: "what are you saying?". But how you do it, it means, "what the fuck are you saying", rudely. Italian emigrants made this gesture to those who spoke to them in English, to tell them: "what are you saying=" It's ironic. Italian gestures are not random, every single movement has a precise meaning.
Also that statue of Augustus at the end used to be holding what some surmise was a spear or laurel branch, so he's not doing any kind of salutations whatsoever.
There’s an American salute that’s similar, called the Bellamy salute, but it’s falling out of favor. It’s supposed to be used when you’re not wearing a cover.
I wish so badly that I had a time machine, and I could have seen the Roman ways for myself. I'd kill to see the Coliseum in ancient days or Caesar during a battle.
@@KingDanny9 do you have any idea how many freemen and roman citizens where taken off the street by bandits and branded as slaves, many times during low points in the empire it was not safe to go outside at night, kidnaping was a rampant crime. if your willing to fight, then we will try to catch you and make you do just that ;)
„This exact gesture is not featured in any of the ancient Roman sources“ 10 seconds later: Trajan‘s column depicts Roman soldiers aclaiming the emperor with this exact gesture What?
it's not exactly the same. the one Fascists used were very rigid, while the real one was actually more like how we still greet people or crowds today when afar, by raising our hand. I'm not even European, I'm south asian and it's a common thing here too for people to raise their right arm as a salute to friends when far away
Napoleon does It for the painting. Many nationalists did the salute and so many countries implemented It mostly after countries changed regimes trough a revolution; many countries in Latin America have this salute still. In México for example Its mandatory when hailing the flag in schools
But in many cases, historians of that time did not record many things simply because they were too "common" that they did not feel the need to mention them in their writtings ......
Hitler got that salute from the original way Americans saluted the flag. It was called the Bellamy Salute. The man who wrote the pledge of allegiance, Francis Bellamy, came up with the salute. You started with your hand over your heart when you said, “I pledge allegiance”. You then stretched your hand out, either overhand or underhand when you said, “to the flag” . And you left it outstretched for the rest of the pledge. Francis Bellamy was a Socialist. The SS were called “Socialist” even though they were really fascist. Hitler stole a lot of ideas from the American Socialist Party. In 1946, a law was passed forbidding the Bellamy Salute. Because it had become identified with the Nazi Sig Heil. My mom is 88 and remembers doing the Bellamy Salute before and during WWII. And she remembers the gestures of the pledge being changed after WWII.
When thinking about how so may customs have changed over as little as decades, I find it amazing that people have basically been using the *same gesture* (a raised open hand) to covey greetings for thousands of years.
I’m obsessed with Rome. I watched “Caligula” on the BBC when I was just 10 years old, in 1976 and at least once a year I revisit the entire box set of “I Claudius.” Me thinks,a Roman holiday is in my future.🔮
I wouldn't put it past the Romans to have a similar salute where they show the palm of their hand to the person they're greeting. It's a natural gesture and would serve as a natural ancestor to the modern Roman Salute. I think there's also the fact a few surviving documents make mention that the only time a Soldier would salute a thin-striped Tribune is when the sun is in his eyes. Assuming I'm not talking out of my ass, the fact we know Romans had a salute that would require you to put your hand in front of your face means it isn't a stretch to assume the Roman Salute is at least partly accurate or faithful.
It sometimes bothers me how much of human history we don’t really know for a fact occurred. A lot of history is made up or educated guesses based on other information. If time machines were real, I would love to go back in time and clear stuff up, I think we’d all be so surprised by what actually happened
bro I did the roman salute in that exact way what the heck. I didn't know they hit their chest. I just did it because it seemed more powerful for some reason
I wonder if anyone saluted, especially on the presence of the emperor because the way its depicted in films its a similar gesture to drawing a sword. I actually think in the presence of authority you were probably meant to bow your head and hands stayed firmly at your side and no sudden movements. Or just somewhere where they they can be seen. When declaring someone emperor or God that probably had the hand gesture. I don't think we have any sources of salutes in any ancient texts from any kingdom or empire....
my friends and i greet each other with this salute when we just meet up to hang, though less how the Nazis do it and more with a bent elbow and forward-facing hand, more Italian like. We do it because like 8 years ago or something a few of us really liked Fascism and some of us liked Rome so we all liked the salute as a greeting. It was usually accompanied by "Hail!" but we dropped that part since we aren't Fascists anymore. We still use the hand gesture as an almost subconscious thing. We've had conversations about why we still do it, and we've reached the conclusion that it just became a part of our friendgroup's culture, along with some other cool stuff from that time period such as an almost sacred association we had with drinking soda, especially together. Friendgroup's lost a lot of our old traditions these days. Half of them don't even like me anymore. I only still talk to 2 of them, 1 of whom is off in the marines and the other wasn't there during the old days but still greets with the salute as we still fervently did it when he joined us. But him and i never really do it anymore since he has a car now, and we no longer walk up to each other and therefore can't throw up the salute as we approach. One could argue that it's good, maybe, that it's a dying tradition in my group. I disagree. It doesn't mean Fascism or Rome to us anymore. it hasn't for years. it means comradery and bond to us, but just like the salute, we lost out bond too it seems...
I always greet my friends this way, since I'm a huge (especially roman) history nerd. Some of them play along, having fun. The rest, those woke morons are not in my circle anymore. 😇
We have seen this salute in artworks that were created at the time.. so yes they actually do it, regardless of what the Nationalist Socialists of Germany did. There’s no need to play it down. One emulated the other. It happens all the time.
It’s not that same pose, the friezes are just people acclaiming the emperor with raised hands, not saluting And the other is a public speaker using his hands for effect
Well, Hitler was trying to rebuild Roman empire which Bible says will never happen. 'As clay do not mix with iron' means divided kingdoms will never reunited. Napoleon was the closest to success but didn't succeed.
The roman salute is the most powerful salute to ever exist. It matters little if it isn't found in history, the motion itself conveys far more weight than any other salute.
@@raidang well some noble families live in the east but most of the noble families who were actually roman from the founding of rome and not just made noble from somewhere else lived in italy under new leadership
Actually Romans was doing that hand gesture, but not as salute. The Roman salute was the fist on the chest, period. The raised hand was a subsequent gesture not exclusively of the Militia but also of the common Roman society and it's meaning was "i would come close to talk to you, i'll assure you i come in peace" showing the open hand without any dagger in it, to testify the non armed hand, so the intention of not arm the person in front.
I tried to teach my toddler nephew the Roman salute. As soon as I saw what it looked like he was saluting, I had to get him to stop before my big sister killed me
For example, fighters like Mirmillone or Trace used to raise their right arm holding the weapon before the fight towards the wing of the senators who financed the game, and in recognition of the Lanista (the owner of the Ludus, or the training school of gladiators).
Before the Europeans used it, it was used in the US at the pledge of allegiance from 1892 to 1942 known as the Bellamy Salute. It started with the hand outstretched toward the flag, palm down, and ended with the palm up.
Made famous by a french painter, made infamous by a austrian/german painter 🤔
*Austrian
@@pointynoodle German, Austrian, same thing I know they're not)
@@tuluppampam the Austrians are the trickiest people as they made the whole world believe that Hitler wasn't Austrian and Mozart was )
Austrians are germans, but not Germans. So close enough!
Austria keeps indirectly starting world wars and leaving Germany holding the bag when it comes time to point fingers
"Germania wont remember us"-the romans
the even made a fanboy knockoff version of the roman empire
@@diobrando6919shut it turkey boy
@@diobrando6919Twice
@diobrando6919 It was the western roman empire
"reality won't remember us" - Interpretation of history
The Roman: Hey bud how’s going 🙋🏻♂️
Nazi: Write that down write that down!
Literally everybody used it
@@JRBDWDwe literally have no prove this was a thing at all in Rome. Did you even watch the video?
"You have given me the shield of your salvation, and your right hand supported me"-Psalm 18:35"
"Your right hand will find out those who hate you."-Psalm 21:8
“I will stretch out my hand against Judah"-Zephania 1:4
@@RenneDanjouleThis does not prove the movement or the exact position of the hand. And are you also trying to use Christianism sources for your n&zism?
@@ChronosHellas Nationalism. Nations, going out to convert them, gathering them under a banner. I can easily justify Nazism thusly, fighting the enemies of Christ and the Church. Freemasons and atheistical communism in the form of Judeo-Bolshevist anti-national socialist internationalism.
The Christian religious and political order the freemasons seek to destroy as per Pope Leo XIII, Humanum genus.
Try harder, that type of "argument" might work with your average american "intellect".
So basically Italians talking with their hands got confused with a salute. Interesting
Underrated comment. 😂
Modern italians have a little to do with romans, modern italians got mixed with north africans, that's why they are brown and talk a lot with hands
@@Theone-dv1pn That's not brown, that's tan.
@@Theone-dv1pnTf are you talking about 💀💀
@@Theone-dv1pnrome wasnt fcking white either.. it was mixed empire
It's true that that exact motion comes from David but it became popular within Italian culture because of the classic Italian film Cabiria (1914). A video on that film would be interesting considering it is one of the first Roman historical epics.
Yeah. I don't remember the exact role that D'Annunzio played in it's creation, but he did work on it and later adopted the salute for the Italian fascist movement.
Cabiria is also one of the very first movies with special effects (the volcano eruption) and superheroes (the giant actor, naturally built like so) ever.
@@RomabooRamblings fiume based state
@@RomabooRamblings D’Annunzio never was member of Fascist party. He did use it when marching for Fiume and made it the official military salute of his Regency once there and other Italian nationalist movements (including the fascists) also adopted it.
Fun fact : Adolf was so moved by that movie where Rienzo dreamed about the creation of a new kind of Roman Empire etc etc
0:20
For those who don't know what this painting is about, it represents the oath of the three Horatii brothers, who, during the reign of Tullus Hostilius, decided to end once and for all the never-ending conflicts between Rome and Alba Longa through a direct confrontation against the three brothers of a family from the enemy city. There is in fact a 1961 film about this conflict called "Duel of Champions", which was directed by the famous Terence Fisher (known for directing the first James Bond films).
this will go into my "Recommendations from The Last Caesar" list
Thx
Hail Caesar!
*ave
@@driplerthadripper >quoting Caesar's Legion
You will never be a real Roman.
@@physical_insanityjoke on u plebs I’m Italian without any immigrant ancestry 🗿
@@Boretheory you took a DNA test?
Only one survivor sir!
It was also used to pledge allegiance to the US flag before WWII
I wonder why we stopped?
@@Lady_Evelyn because people don't know the difference between nationalism and national socialism
We still do it in Brazil. And I think other militaries out there still do it as well. If Americans stopped doing it I doubt it has to do with mustache man and it was probably a restyling of American parades.
@@RedactedBrainwaves it was because of mustache man, and by pledge allegiance I think he means in schools, not the military
@bryanvillafuerte765 I mean, yes and no
I'd love to use this greeting but I am from Germany :(
Raise your right hand then if the cops saw you, stretch out your left hand quickly and tell you're having a warmup exercise 😅
@@giorgiociaravolol1998we literally can’t, it gets punished worse than avoiding taxes
@@Mika-me3og I know, we got a similar fine as well. But as you know we don't care about rules, especially if they are stupid. Once I purposely did the salute in front of policemen to see their reaction and they didn't care at all.
No is only italian , germans are not our friend .Please go away.
@@giorgiociaravolol1998 do this in berlin and the very next day an a tank from each eu member state is at ur front door
" You don't get it, i'm Roman! "
But they didn’t do the salute though? Did u watch the vid?
@@harcoom you people take history too seriously. Ever heard of jokes ?
A woman?
Shame that one guy had to ruin it for everybody
We can bring it back, lads
@@PunishedlLongshanks yeah but if we do it now it'll look Nazi
@@Imperius_Rex_753 I'm pretty sure people get called "Nazis" for wanting laws to be enforced these days. I say we should just do it. If you see someone in a store looking at a Roman history book, just give them the ol' Roman salute and walk off without saying anything, as if it were the most normal thing in the world. In time, it will catch on, for sure. Perfect plan.
@@PunishedlLongshanks 😂 I dare uou to do that. Also we don't have Roman history books in our book stores. It's been 2000 years but everyone are still pissed over Titus and Hadrian
@@Imperius_Rex_753 nobody is pissed of at Adrian and Titus. Only ✡️. But they seethe at everything European, so who cares what they think.
It sucks that you can’t use it now because well…
You can still use it lol just yknow every action has a consequence
We see the real one daily. Normally raising your hand to say hi without waving.
Good guys lost
Lol.. have fun with your imaginary guilt.
Don't let your dreams be dreams
“It was made famous by a french painter”
Me:there is another
Americans used to do the Bellamy salute when pledging allegiance to the American flag. After or during the WW2 though, they changed it.
I think the Romans just make the 🤌🤌🤌 gesture as salute.
This meme isn't funny anymore
Let's prefer this🤚
This is Neapolitan/padanian
@@baradon920 It's not meant to be funny. Italians are a funny people and make that gesture
@@vercot7000 that gesture means: "what are you saying?". But how you do it, it means, "what the fuck are you saying", rudely. Italian emigrants made this gesture to those who spoke to them in English, to tell them: "what are you saying=" It's ironic. Italian gestures are not random, every single movement has a precise meaning.
Exactly that👎😅
Also that statue of Augustus at the end used to be holding what some surmise was a spear or laurel branch, so he's not doing any kind of salutations whatsoever.
The Roman Salute was already used by the military in several countries much before fascism was created.
yep. Mexico 1915 I believe. The Us in the 1890'.s.
Yes in USA too, but maybe they change the style
Man all the roman emperors would be like "why is the Germanic guy doing so stiff, relax my dude"
*Austrianic guy
@@achmadferinoyudhahariyanto3556 Austrians are within the Germanic group of languages/cultures
@@Samuel-wm1xr Exactly!
A good artist sees the world from a different perspective
Good? He got rejected from art school...
@@clementbianchini8651school is where they teach you one perspective
does the roman salute
1 seconds later: *DEATH SENTENCE*
I do the Roman salute!
We technically all are, as it's just raising a hand slightly to say "hi" and not geometrical.
Now that's a good troll profile lol
gotta love how Germany basically ruins everything 💀
The Roman salute is found in many Roman monuments
It always comes back to the Romans, doesn't it?
Yes
It should
New favorite Romaboo content creator.
I always greet my white friends like this and they always play along lmao
Fcking legends
Some people shouldn't see you because they will think you're a nazi. Just giving a warning!
Based
@@anthonymanderson7671 Uh oh! Better not do that then!! 😨 Jk I'm gonna keep doing it.
You and your friends should start a political party.
There’s an American salute that’s similar, called the Bellamy salute, but it’s falling out of favor. It’s supposed to be used when you’re not wearing a cover.
It'll return eventually once WW2 grows distant in time
@@antoniodelaugger9236 I don’t know it will probably forgotten before then barely anybody knows about it now
I wish so badly that I had a time machine, and I could have seen the Roman ways for myself. I'd kill to see the Coliseum in ancient days or Caesar during a battle.
roman slave catchers: you'd "what" to see a coliseum?
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@@kitkat47chrysalis95 Lol this is all assuming I'm a free man or citizen of Rome
@@KingDanny9 do you have any idea how many freemen and roman citizens where taken off the street by bandits and branded as slaves, many times during low points in the empire it was not safe to go outside at night, kidnaping was a rampant crime. if your willing to fight, then we will try to catch you and make you do just that ;)
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 That made me giggle😂
The Romans were great they spread by conquest and assimilateted them people. They became roman citizens.
And so it kept spreading.
I've seen the straight arm salute used as a worship gesture in ancient Greek art.
It was how they honored the god Apollo
„This exact gesture is not featured in any of the ancient Roman sources“
10 seconds later:
Trajan‘s column depicts Roman soldiers
aclaiming the emperor with this exact gesture
What?
It’s not the same gesture
the pose in Trajan's column isn't palm-down, and the arm isn't straight
it's not exactly the same. the one Fascists used were very rigid, while the real one was actually more like how we still greet people or crowds today when afar, by raising our hand.
I'm not even European, I'm south asian and it's a common thing here too for people to raise their right arm as a salute to friends when far away
@@safs3098exacly.
There are many paintings where Napoleon salutes this way "in reference to the Roman Empire" now idk who to believe🤔
Napoleon does It for the painting. Many nationalists did the salute and so many countries implemented It mostly after countries changed regimes trough a revolution; many countries in Latin America have this salute still. In México for example Its mandatory when hailing the flag in schools
But in many cases, historians of that time did not record many things simply because they were too "common" that they did not feel the need to mention them in their writtings ......
One day the painter will escape his cloak of hatred that covers him. Pragmatic people of the future will see.
His spirit shall rise from the grave
Apparently our U.S. pledge of allegiance included this salute until WWII ruined it for everybody
It was made infamous by jews not by the based austrian painter
@@JRBDWDyeah I damn hate em
I didn't ever hear of that.
Why you forgot that French greeted like this too until conquered by Germans
"Various Nationalist movements"
Historical understatement of the year lol
Hitler got that salute from the original way Americans saluted the flag. It was called the Bellamy Salute. The man who wrote the pledge of allegiance, Francis Bellamy, came up with the salute. You started with your hand over your heart when you said, “I pledge allegiance”. You then stretched your hand out, either overhand or underhand when you said, “to the flag” . And you left it outstretched for the rest of the pledge. Francis Bellamy was a Socialist. The SS were called “Socialist” even though they were really fascist. Hitler stole a lot of ideas from the American Socialist Party. In 1946, a law was passed forbidding the Bellamy Salute. Because it had become identified with the Nazi Sig Heil. My mom is 88 and remembers doing the Bellamy Salute before and during WWII. And she remembers the gestures of the pledge being changed after WWII.
When thinking about how so may customs have changed over as little as decades, I find it amazing that people have basically been using the *same gesture* (a raised open hand) to covey greetings for thousands of years.
LOL 👁️👃👁️🙏
Italian here btw... Let's make THE HAND GREAT AGAIN !
I bet you'd become a laughing stock if you had a time machine, azzazini
@@prsimoibn2710 Oh that's the best outcome, trust me. Because I'm also very good at making people cry and suffer terribly. 👃👁️
historical or not, the salute is cool af
True.
I wouldn't say that considering who actually used it
@@cumaproto9466 those who used it were great men who fought liberalism, marxim, banking system, depravity, immoralism etc.
@@cumaproto9466 that's a better reason to use it
@@MiguelDS5547 Liberalism is good, the banking system is good, and immorality is a subjective term.
I’m obsessed with Rome. I watched “Caligula” on the BBC when I was just 10 years old, in 1976 and at least once a year I revisit the entire box set of “I Claudius.” Me thinks,a Roman holiday is in my future.🔮
I wouldn't put it past the Romans to have a similar salute where they show the palm of their hand to the person they're greeting. It's a natural gesture and would serve as a natural ancestor to the modern Roman Salute.
I think there's also the fact a few surviving documents make mention that the only time a Soldier would salute a thin-striped Tribune is when the sun is in his eyes. Assuming I'm not talking out of my ass, the fact we know Romans had a salute that would require you to put your hand in front of your face means it isn't a stretch to assume the Roman Salute is at least partly accurate or faithful.
This salut also existed in American schools from the 1890s up until WW2
It was known as the Bellamy Salut
“ Hey I’ve seen this one “
It is the Roman Salute! Ave ✋🏻
It sometimes bothers me how much of human history we don’t really know for a fact occurred. A lot of history is made up or educated guesses based on other information. If time machines were real, I would love to go back in time and clear stuff up, I think we’d all be so surprised by what actually happened
@Luca Baki You have no evidence against such, you sad excuse of a gnostic.
@@TaraConti huh, gladiator the 2000 film??? Maybe it’s just the company I keep but I know exactly 0 people who thought that was historically accurate
They do it in some Indian forces🤙👌
>not mentioned in sources or iconography
>is depicted on Trajan Column
Ok.
Right! I'm like "this short contradicted itself". I was always under the impression that the salute did exist due to Trajan's Column.
It's called the salutatio iberica, and it from Iberia.
As a German, I love this greeting.🙋🏼♂️🇩🇪
True German 🇩🇪✋
bro I did the roman salute in that exact way what the heck. I didn't know they hit their chest. I just did it because it seemed more powerful for some reason
The best gesture made with more than one finger
I wonder if anyone saluted, especially on the presence of the emperor because the way its depicted in films its a similar gesture to drawing a sword. I actually think in the presence of authority you were probably meant to bow your head and hands stayed firmly at your side and no sudden movements. Or just somewhere where they they can be seen. When declaring someone emperor or God that probably had the hand gesture. I don't think we have any sources of salutes in any ancient texts from any kingdom or empire....
Roman salute with arm and digits outstretched is depicted as an engraving on Trajan's column.
NatSocs are gonna be coping now
lol you mean the feds that getting paid by tax money.
@@COLT6940 Found one
Surprised you used natsoc and didn't just call them fascists
@@lordtrikill1508 National socialists and fascism are two different philosophies….sharing some characteristics and polar opposites in others.
@@mamavswild Majority of people don't know that and just do not care so it is suprising to see someone correctly define them as seperate.
It seems to be a universal sign for "hail" rather than a salute.
I remember having an argument with a guy about this topic and he was adamant that it was a real thing
Throughout most of history: A symbol of brotherhood and peace.
Some barbarian with a mustache: I'm about to ruin this things credibility
Fun Fact: David was Napoleon's personal potrait
Figures, another painter is the reason we got the thumbs up and thumbs down thing backwards.
my friends and i greet each other with this salute when we just meet up to hang, though less how the Nazis do it and more with a bent elbow and forward-facing hand, more Italian like. We do it because like 8 years ago or something a few of us really liked Fascism and some of us liked Rome so we all liked the salute as a greeting. It was usually accompanied by "Hail!" but we dropped that part since we aren't Fascists anymore. We still use the hand gesture as an almost subconscious thing. We've had conversations about why we still do it, and we've reached the conclusion that it just became a part of our friendgroup's culture, along with some other cool stuff from that time period such as an almost sacred association we had with drinking soda, especially together.
Friendgroup's lost a lot of our old traditions these days. Half of them don't even like me anymore. I only still talk to 2 of them, 1 of whom is off in the marines and the other wasn't there during the old days but still greets with the salute as we still fervently did it when he joined us. But him and i never really do it anymore since he has a car now, and we no longer walk up to each other and therefore can't throw up the salute as we approach. One could argue that it's good, maybe, that it's a dying tradition in my group. I disagree. It doesn't mean Fascism or Rome to us anymore. it hasn't for years. it means comradery and bond to us, but just like the salute, we lost out bond too it seems...
It’s a badass salute
Thank you for your fascinating video 🏆🌹It was beautiful.
It was also used in America during the Pledge of Allegiance as the Bellamy Salute
The origin of this salute was from the iberians (ancient spanish and portuguese) and the roman empire adopted as the oficial salute.
I always greet my friends this way, since I'm a huge (especially roman) history nerd.
Some of them play along, having fun.
The rest, those woke morons are not in my circle anymore. 😇
Good man.
We have seen this salute in artworks that were created at the time.. so yes they actually do it, regardless of what the Nationalist Socialists of Germany did. There’s no need to play it down. One emulated the other. It happens all the time.
Well it was more of just a wave rather than a salute. In any case they didn’t use any sort of greeting like how Hollywood and the fascists depicts it.
The gesture is the same the timing was probably different like a smooth diagonal wave rather than a Ridgid movement
Just like the swastika, Hitler didn't even the logo itself
That was the point,moron. He used ancient symbols. That was the purpose.
There Is a Roman statue that does that at Ercolano
As always, a certain Austrian painter ruined this
You can say Hitler you know, you dont have to kidify it with "Austrian painter"
@peg2legs90 thanks for sharing your thoughts
Lodi Lombardia italy, Glorie a Dio, SPQR 1870.
I remember my boys and I used to use Roman salute to greet each other back in high school
introduced by french painter, made popular by a austrian painter
'Theres no record of this'
Proceeds to show statues and friezes with the same pose...
It’s not that same pose, the friezes are just people acclaiming the emperor with raised hands, not saluting
And the other is a public speaker using his hands for effect
It's literally not the same pose lmfao
Well, Hitler was trying to rebuild Roman empire which Bible says will never happen.
'As clay do not mix with iron' means divided kingdoms will never reunited.
Napoleon was the closest to success but didn't succeed.
"I loved living in ancient Rome" 👴🏻
didnt know my Argentinian grandpa served in the roman legion
The roman salute is the most powerful salute to ever exist. It matters little if it isn't found in history, the motion itself conveys far more weight than any other salute.
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Depends on which era.. After the fall of Western Roman Empire the Romans lived in Greece
@@raidang well some noble families live in the east but most of the noble families who were actually roman from the founding of rome and not just made noble from somewhere else lived in italy under new leadership
Yes, they did
oy gevalt no zey didnt you need to be a rootless bugman and have no innate connection with your ancestors gentile.
Actually Romans was doing that hand gesture, but not as salute. The Roman salute was the fist on the chest, period. The raised hand was a subsequent gesture not exclusively of the Militia but also of the common Roman society and it's meaning was "i would come close to talk to you, i'll assure you i come in peace" showing the open hand without any dagger in it, to testify the non armed hand, so the intention of not arm the person in front.
pretty accurate
it is literally just a naturally powerful hand gesture for leadership and orating.
I wish this salut was acceptable again
I tried to teach my toddler nephew the Roman salute. As soon as I saw what it looked like he was saluting, I had to get him to stop before my big sister killed me
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The Roman Salute: "Man, Hitler just ruins everything!"
The Hindu Swastika: "First time?"
the Roman gladiators did it during the circus games organized by the senators, for example in the theater of Capua
For example, fighters like Mirmillone or Trace used to raise their right arm holding the weapon before the fight towards the wing of the senators who financed the game, and in recognition of the Lanista (the owner of the Ludus, or the training school of gladiators).
I am glad that I saw this video!
This salute in fact was used by Illyrians for god of the sun
Not true. The true invetor is Gabriele D'Annvnzio
Fascists cant even invent their own salutes smh
Julius Caesar and Augustus were fascist.
honey, there is no reddit gold in here.
Fascists used this type of salute. Nazis copied it
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@@ITALICVS yeah fascists copied it too doe
Before the Europeans used it, it was used in the US at the pledge of allegiance from 1892 to 1942 known as the Bellamy Salute. It started with the hand outstretched toward the flag, palm down, and ended with the palm up.
I find it quite natural to the point of actively avoiding it sometimes.
*Germany ruining everything*💀
Lets not forget that he stole the swastika
This is why Hitler took this salute for the Nazis. He wanted something that looked cool and distinguished.
He emulated Roman military culture as much as he could.
If there's one thing the Nazis did well, it was embodying the cool as hell bad guy look.
@@physical_insanity agreed
@@physical_insanity the black uniform the discipline you just can't hate it if though you know they were horrible
Nationalism is rising and the salute will return. Hail!
The salute is actually from Spain and is called the Hispanic Salute
Me and the boys in the back of the class
Fair enough. Historical illiteracy is a fairly consistent thing amongst nationalists generally and fascists in particular.
The Most chadest and based people used IT Like a painter