THEATRE NERD REACTS TO HELLUVA BOSS - THE CIRCUS - S2: EPISODE 1
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Interesting fact: the crew said it took Stolas's VA only a few tries to do the song, and they didn't cut the final take so you can hear VA's breath and how broken his voice sounds sometimes, that's because the actor was actually crying during the recording, and brought to tears everybody in the studio.
Bro was cooking!! 🔥🔥🔥
the shaky voice is such an important part of the song
It's a brilliant performance! 😭✨
Yeah, Bryce Pinkham is the GOAT for this, he is just outstanding as Stolas. Plus he seems really passionate about the role too, which is just great to see! You sometimes hear of actors hating the role they're the most famous for, but Bryce wears the role of Stolas with pride and passion. Like he's a pretty notable name on Broadway yet Stolas is his most iconic performance to date, and he SLAYS the performance.
Yeaah right
I've seen people point this out before, but I think the only reason Stolas is always so sexual with Blitz (which makes Blitz feel like that's all Stolas cares about) is because the first time they saw each other again as adults, that's what Stolas perceived Blitz to WANT. He thought Blitz came to his palace just to have sex with him, so he's been super sexual with Blitz ever since, in hopes of keeping him around
Or also the fact that he's drunk?
He was drunk when he first blitz too
Fun fact: Stolas and Blitzø's fathers are both voiced by Johnathan Freeman, Jafar himself. They got a Disney villain to give them both daddy issues.
The best part is they brought Jonathan Freeman for the stage musical of Aladdin as well
I don’t think they mentioned Blitz’s father’s name, but it’s Cash Buckzo .
Also Chazwick Thurman, but thats for a later episode.
Jafar is definitely one of Disney's best villain characters. Remember those days? When Disney movies had real villains with their own villain songs?
It's even funnier when you realize that Weeby started singing "I Can Show You The World" partway through her reaction.
It's sad learning that Stella hit Stolas before, and since Stella was surprised he grabbed her arm it must be the first time Stolas stopped her from hitting him. 😔
Oh shit I haven't thought of that before
I keep seeing u
Definitely they made it a point to show the windup and the throw before he caught it. He knows when she's about to hit him
Stella is angry because Stolas is defying her. She's not mad about the cheating, she's mad that she's being defied. She was so used to getting what she wants that someone is finally standing up to her. Sleeping with an imp really humiliated her.
I love how they connected the, "Sorry I f*cked your husband", joke to this episode, turning an already funny scene into something plot relevant. Stolas declaring it was him divorcing her, completely embarrassing her in front of her friends after spending years insulting and degrading him, was the cherry on top!
"That... was the sound... of a FACKING DIVORCE"!!! my personal favourite stolas quote 😂😂😂
“Looks like their relationship blew up quite a bit.”
Me: *laughs nervously*
STOOOP 😭😭😭💔💔
NO BAD. BAD BAD BAD!
😬
Nooo 😭
I was literally looking for a comment like this
Seeing how uninvolved Stolas' father was, remembering he actually puts in the effort to learn Octavia's passions and be present in her life makes me smile.
Yeah, to quote the next episode, he may not always get it right but he's trying. Thats more important than you think.
The reason the dad didn't catch them stealing is he doesn't even live there. If you notice there are no pictures of any family in Stolas' palace. It's just him and the imps who take care of him. He's grown up THAT isolated
How did I not notice that?😭
@@Comet346 holy shit. there's nothing. Paimon showing up in person was a special thing for handing over the grimoire, likely as it's too valuable for anything but a hand off.
"That was the sound of a fucking divorce". One of my favorite lines in the whole show. ❤ Also Blitzo and Fizz are so innocent here, sure nothing bad happends to them.
Real
Honestly best line delivery before Lucifer’s “Oh this has gotta be perfect. [beat] Heeeeey biiiiiitch!” I thought I was gonna *die* I was broken
It's also Bryce Pinkham's favorite line.
Nooooo!!! But its ok, fizz forgave blitzø
Yea hopefully blitz doesn't "blow up" at fizz
Also I need to point out; Stolas took Via to Loo Loo Land because he met the love of his life at the circus on his saddest day thinking ‘perhaps it’ll work for her, too!’ and when I realized that I laid face down and cried for half an hour.
"Stolas Sings" is a masterpiece. Fun Fact: Bryce Pinkham, the voice of Stolas, was actually crying when recording it. The pain in his voice is authentic. It's impressive he held it together as well as he did, and that it only took 4 takes. And at the same time, the few voice breaks and longer, higher pitched notes really get across the pain Stolas is feeling even more.
Bryce gave us quite a performance.
That song is so beautiful yet tragic.
People underestimate the power of real emotion in music.
Yep. It BLEW up. Literally
29:25 What's really sad about those pictures is Stolas looks at one where Blitz seems uninterested in him and he thinks the relationship is a lie but in EP7 Blitz looked at a picture of him smiling while Stolas was sleeping showing that he does cared and there is something to their relationship.
And of course, Blitz took that picture while he was asleep and it’s on his phone, so Stolas doesn’t even know. It took me a while to remember this, but as far back as S1E5, Millie refers to Stolas as “the boss’s boyfriend,” and Blitz stammers, “it’s not….we’re not..um…it’s just transactional fucking.” For some reason, that’s better?
@@professorbutters Yeah, He is just so incapable of thinking that he could actually be loved, especially by someone like a royal demon prince.
Asmodean Crystals are the only way most demons can legally go to Earth, aside from methods like Stolas's grimoire.
Hope she see this
And even Stolas' grimoire is illegal, unless used by Stolas (or at least a Goetia).
@@huntersmith1943 they explain it later if she doesn't, so it should be fine
@@bulletsandbracelets4140 when do they explain what the crystal do?
@@huntersmith1943 Episode 6
12:27 Notice how Blitz replies with only saying he wants to help his mom and leaving his dad out
"What a shitty Dad,"
Oh boy wait til she meets the *Worst*
Omg yes i forgot about this lmao
Blitz being obsessed with pirates makes sense, seeing as he uses flintlock pistols later in life.
And I've long assumed and assumed that his native Ring, Envy. Where there is an ocean and seafaring flourishes in Hell and, as a result, yes, piracy is possible.
@@MarkMark-lx6gl That or since he's heard of the sinners that could lead to him hearing about pirates that came down to hell because let's face it, they've done a lot to get down there.
@@darkvizardking69 Quite possibly. Again, after this episode, at least for me, a theory was born about the time difference between Hell and Earth. For example, if 20 years have passed for Stolas and Blitz, then centuries have passed on Earth. Or if this theory is nonsense, it's just that some Sinner-pirates who have been hanging out there since the golden age of Piracy may have told Blitz or he could have heard from them or from others. But in general, if you remember that the Ring of Wrath is the Wild West, and the Greed is the Mafia, then it would be nice if Envy had pirates, like Davy Jones' crew, like all sorts of sea creatures with imps and maybe Hounds on board.
@@MarkMark-lx6gl I can see about how that can work out, granted we haven't seen Envy yet so we don't know beyond the fact that apparently a gated community exists there.
@@darkvizardking69 Plus, given that Millie is a cowgirl, Moxxie is a mobster, Loona is a wrathful goth, and Stolas is a royal prince, well, it makes sense that Blitzo is actually the leader of this motley group a Pirate. He's a pirate. Just like Music theme from Pirates of the caribbean. And Blitz literally a local Captain Jack Sparrow.
0:38 “it seems like their relationship blew up” 💀
they took that a little too literally
As far as Stolas’ age in the first segment… If you count back based off of Via’s age and how long it was between the first two segments (and assume that Stolas and Stella were minimum 18 when they were married and started trying for Via, which is a safe assumption to my understanding), the youngest Stolas could have been in the first part was 10-11. And he can’t have been much older than that since he clearly hadn’t started puberty yet.
That puts Stolas in his mid-30s in the current timeline.
It also means he was probably in his early 20s when he sung the lullaby to Via in the beginning of LooLoo Land. You know, where he said, “I used to think that I was bold, I used to think love would be fun. Now all my stories have been told except for one.” With that “one” being Via. And this guy was potentially looking at eternity thinking his best days were already behind him! 😭😭😭😭😭
When you realize Stolas laughs like his father. The "hoo hoo hoo" with rhe clap
"It seems like their relationship blew up quite a bit."
Oh, if you knew...
HELPP
So the theme that typically plays when Stolas is on screen is called Stolas Speaks, and in this episode the song is Stolas Sings.
Honestly this makes me wonder if we'll get a reprise or perhaps a new song with the same melody at the end of the season with a new meaning! We know Viv and the gang have tinkered with reprises in the show structure in Hazbin Hotel so it would seem logical to bring it over to Helluva Boss.
From the beginning, it was kind of freaking stunning how there are LITERALLY NO REPERCUSSIONS for those two just basically clearing out the place. It's like damn, there is wealth and then there is WEALTH.
Well, for Stolas, the memories of that day were priceless and it's technically all his stuff.
I'm not sure there were no repercussions, but Stolas would definitely have covered for his playmate and claimed it was all his idea. Hopefully the lost stuff was just a nuisance and Paimon shrugged it off.
Bribing is a powerful tool. Either that or fear of messing with the royal family. I would be like “man, I’m not going to mess with them, they might kill me or buy me or some shit”
12:22 "Don't you wanna be able to help me and your mama out?"
"Of course I want to help mama!"
Blitzø didn't give a fuck about his father. I wonder if he's trying to overcompensate with Loona as a coping mechanism
I see that those Happy Pills were produced by Belphegor, the same demon Bee said she sometimes steals party drugs from in 1x8. I bet that'll be an interesting character to meet one day
Belphegor from the series on the canons of theology and Demonology Demoness is an inventor who is responsible for all the inventions and achievements of mankind, which has provided them for thousands of years of existence and continues to inspire scientists and other figures. She is like a local Athena(goddes of wisdom) and Asclepius(god of medicine). The expression Laziness - Engine of Progress was invented by her and was her motto. She also discovered all the known diseases, both on Earth and in places where it would seem impossible to be in Hell, and became the one who invented medicine and many medicines, in particular those based on narcotic substances. But since she's still the Embodiment of Laziness, it's up to her to do everything alone, and she's created assistants for herself. Baphomets - Sheep-like and goat-like demons who have learned a lot quickly, but like their creator, they are very absent-minded and passive. But it is precisely thanks to them and Belphegor, Hell subsequently evolved (she and Asmodea were able to teach technology and ingenuity, so he founded his own toy factory and everything necessary for his Sin), as well as the Earth, so that both these worlds just consider it almost indistinguishable, and everything that was invented in Hell subsequently came to Earth, starting from Such mythical creatures as Satyrs, Sirens, Furies, Sea Monsters, Bunyip, Mothman, Chupacabra, Dinosaurs, Werewolves, Ghouls, Owl-man, Jersey Devil, Yeti, Minotaurs, Faeries, Gremlins, Ogres, Dwarfs, Oni, Youkais, Lizard People, Aliens, Dragons, Pagan Gods and others, as well as clowns, jesters, zani and the Circus in general were founded and invented by our ancestors based on the images of the inhabitants of Hell, who in the old days got out to Earth much more often). Returning to Belphegor, she is the weakest because she relies not on her own strength and abilities, which are almost non-existent, but on her intelligence and knowledge.
@@MarkMark-lx6gli think you are taking alot of stuff from the fandom site which alot is not canon, it a community contribution site. The actual wiki is just a stub
@@crokuslorn3118 So that you and others just know. I didn't take any of the information presented in my comment out of nowhere, I made it all up myself and I hope that it will be so.
I think it's kinda fun that Blitzø has a consistent character trait of liking pirates. Think about it... he talked about the "great pirate war", they played "treasure hunt" at Stolas' palace, when he's grown up he wears a big fluffy jacket, and his weapon of choice is a flintlock pistol.
The dad's look at Stolas when he says what the term is that means someone's legs stop working when they eat too much sugar. Pure Piccolo Abridged energy.
Stolas: "It's called...laminit-"
Paimon: "NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRD."
Probably the darkest thing that Stella said in this episode is how when she and Stolas slept together, he would just "lay there and stare at the wall." We know it is confirmed that Stolas is gay, so we can infer that there was some level of SA that may have been going on, at the very least dubious consent issues, as he would've had no interest at all in sleeping with Stella.
This is the episode that made me a full supporter behind Stolas. He is not a perfect character, but he is probably one of the most sympathetic characters in this show.
I don't think that's what they were going for. I'm sure Stolas agreed to it, since making a kid was the entire reason for the marriage. He just didn't enjoy it for obvious reasons.
@@tomfougstedt I agree, it could be read as either way. I’ve seen people who took it to mean SA, some who thought what you said, and others who simply thought that Stella was being a b$%#h for talking smack about her partner to her friends. Either way, Stella doesn’t look great
@@tomfougstedt Consent issues aren't as simple as a yes or no, is the thing, and honestly I feel for both of them. Neither one had a choice about "agreeing" to the marriage or the sex. If they'd been able to think of themselves as fellow victims and allies getting through an unpleasant task together, it wouldn't have been so bad, but Stella chose a different approach. She doesn't want to consider herself a victim, and I think she's been punishing Stolas ever since the wedding - it's all his fault for not being a better partner, etc. I have no doubt that she made the experience worse for him than it had to be.
That is why it is possible to partially justify Stella and her actions, and not just call her vicious, horrible, and infuriating. No one asked her permission to marry either, she was also extradited against it. But she had to live all her life with someone she didn't love, with whom she couldn't find or enjoy him. She was just as simple a tool in the hands of her parents, especially her father, who did nothing but indulge his daughter's habits and desires, not seeing or wanting to pay her special attention only to his heir, the future Marquis. It couldn't have been any better with her mother, she could oppress her and make her think that, as a woman in Goetia, she would hardly achieve anything. All this made Stella resentful of the whole world. And Stolas also cheated on her, and not just cheated on her, but with a demon of the lowest demon, disgraced her in front of her friends, in front of all Goetia, filed for divorce, and in the end left her with nothing, That is, her whole life was wasted, everything for which she herself was born, as she was indoctrinated, was in vain. Out of madness, anger and despair, she went off the rails, and came up with nothing better than to hire a killer with a special weapon, thanks to which she could finally fight the one who had taken away all the years of her life that she had lived with him, and blindly believing and hoping that everything that belonged to him would go to her. Her only redemptive thing is possible, if not in love, then at least something maternal towards Octavia. It's not yet fully resolved, but she at least takes it with her for the weekend, and worries that Stolas is turning her daughter against her. Yes, many people believe that Stella hates Octavia, just by the phrase "it's a good thing that egg fell out of me", but she said it more in the sense that she didn't have to fuck Stolas anymore when she insulted him in front of her friends. That doesn't say anything about hating or not loving Octavia. In general, I will say more that perhaps she wants her daughter to become a real full-fledged Goetia with abilities, a position, and not just an instrument of marriage. But what Stolas has done can get in the way. And then her manipulative older brother decided to cash on this whole situation. Actually, I'm really looking forward to the full development of the plot and the characters themselves and their relationships in full form.
@@MarkMark-lx6gl i think her taking octavia on week end is, again, to torment him as she said
25:51 people who used to know him before call him Blitzo.
also people who want to disrespect him, which is why Fizz and Verosika do it
The Goetial demons are immortal. They don't have a lifespan and they can't be killed by conventional means but they can be killed, such as with that angelic rifle Striker had. However slim, there was a chance of Stolas getting killed, so they needed him to have an heir just in case.
Stolas is technically only half Goetia. Paimon is a shape shifting demon without a true form, he just turns into whatever. Stolas' mom on the other hand is a Goetia, which are fallen angels. Since the Goetia are fallen angels, only angelic weaponry can kill them. Stolas may or may not have a lifespan considering he's pretty much a half breed, but since Paimon took on the form of a Goetia to concieve him he may be pure blooded. It depends. It may actually make him more powerful.
@@RoxasOnSummerVacation Paimon is shape shifting but he is definitely a Goetia considering he's grouped with them in IRL demonology
@@cyberrainofficial5965 Viv only took basic inspiration from real demonology. She changed it up. He has the ability to shapeshift into a Goetia but isn't one in the Hellaverse. This stuff is explained through Patreon live streams and Q&As
@@RoxasOnSummerVacation Actually I think Stolas mom is a native hellborn demon while Paimon could be a fallen angel. But who knows until the show clarifies this or the animation crew.
@@AndyVu-mz6cb Vivziepop already confirmed that Paimon is Hellborn and Stolas' mother is a Goetia. His mother may have been born in hell but she's still a pure blood conceived by fallen angels so she isn't classified as Hellborn.
People on social media were actually able to translate the runes in the book on Asmodean crystals back when this episode came out. Semi-spoilers if you don't want to know
Basically, the crystals are what incubuses and succubuses like Verosika use to go to the living world
It's easy to miss, but the third portrait of baby Stolas in the hall shows him with the same plant he's feeding years later in "Loo Loo Land". I'm glad he's had a lifelong hobby, even if no one around him seems to appreciate it.
Good news! - There IS an official Baby Stolas plush!
Stolas' father is Paimon. He is the ninth spirit of Ars Goetia and is one of the kings of Goetia. He appears to humans in the form of a man with a magnificent crown on his head, sitting on a dromedary.
2:15. Paimon looks like an ofanim here, it is one of the types of angels. Perhaps he, like the other nine kings of Goetia, are fallen angels, and all the other members of Goetia are their descendants mixed with the aborigines of Hell. Sera in Hazbin Hotel in her true form has a nose like a bird's beak, and all Goetia are birds.
Ofanim are specifically abt the rings. I dont think it's supposed to reference them.
Vivziepop did a bad writer moment and retconned all goetia being birds
@@VOXICONALTERNATIVE Its neither bad writing nor a retcon if it wasnt actually established before. The series itself has never shown the Ars Goetia not being birds... Stolas and everyone connected to him on the Ars Goetia side are birds. If you don't like it thats one thing, but you can totally change your mind on stuff that hasnt been set in stone yet... thats not a "retcon".
@@VOXICONALTERNATIVE It's not a retcon. She never claimed they were all birds in the first place. We've only ever seen Paimon and a handful of Goetia in Stella's social set, and Paimon is not only a bird. For all we know there's an entire clan of elephantine Goetia waiting to be revealed in S3.
This happens over and over again, viewers leap to conclusions and make headcanons that they assume are facts, and then get angry at the writers when things don't turn out the way they expected. Seems like an exhausting way to "enjoy" media.
@@VOXICONALTERNATIVE Well, until now we don't really know what the other members of the Goetia Family are like, we don't even know if Stella is part of that family, if not for being Stolas' wife.
Also, the fact that Paimon appears as some sort of shapeshifter, taking on various appearances before showing up as an owl (which I'm pretty sure isn't his true form), saying that he has "a bunch of children", and that calling Stolas "the owl boy" does not necessarily mean that all of Paimon's other children are birds. Although it is still possible, since nothing tells us otherwise, it is not a fact either, because they have not explicitly told us that this is the case.
“That was the sound, OF A F***ING DIVORCE!”
Stolas went from mere royalty to the King with that line.
2:52 Vivzie based Paimon (Stolas's father) on the actual demonic lore, which states he has over 70 kids...
This episode makes you realise all the horniness stolas did was because he thought that's what blitz wanted because of his first time while blitz was just trying to get the book
Weeby "I dont condone cheating but you were asking for it"🙄
Me "Abso **Taking a sip of my coffee** lutely!" 😌☕
Stolas still continutes to bow to Blitz in the future! Cares to show that Stolas always loved and respected Blitz
I think the "going to die alone" thing Blitzø was talking about last episode was him referencing the Truth Bomb induced hallucination he had back in Truth Seekers, and not an actual thing Fizz said. But I could be wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I feel so bad for stolas he is always being used by the people around him even his dad
So yeah, this is why Stolas fetishized Blitzø, and why he always uses pet names like his “impish little plaything”. Paimon drilled it into Stolas’ head that he and Blitzø would never be equals. “You’re above him, he bows to us”, from when he was a kid, he was taught that the imps were less than him, all the while harboring feelings for Blitzø. And then he was forced to date and marry Stella to have Octavia. He never got to explore his identity, and was stuck with Stella for (a minimum of) 25 years.
Assuming Stolas and Stella had to have Octavia right when they were 18/19, I think it’s a fair guess that the flashback took place when Stolas & Blitzø were like 10. He’s then forced to court Stella for 8 years until they’re young adults, have a kid with someone he didn’t love as an 18yr old (way too young to be raising a kid imo), and then he sticks out the abusive marriage for Octavia for 17 years, to provide her some sorta nuclear, familial dynamic of a mom, dad and their child. This puts Stolas & Blitzø around say 35ish?
Because of his father, Stolas began to view his own admiration for Blitzø as something perverse and taboo, so he bottled up his feelings for nearly 3 decades. If you carry such a perspective from your childhood, it’s not gonna be easy to change. When Blitzø came back into his life-albeit for the grimoire, Stolas was caught off guard. His crush that his father said was of a lower status to himself, was suddenly in control of the situation. Stolas was already a bit drunk at the party, so then in his mind, the “taboo” of him associating with a commoner boiled over. He was doing this thing that he was told was “bad”, yet he was the happiest he’d been since before meeting Stella. Suddenly the worldview that his dad instilled in his mind was shattered. It felt liberating, but he was so unsure how to handle the situation, he just assumed this was also what Blitzø wanted, that he just wanted their relationship to be carnal and taboo. It’s similar to internalized homophobia. He didn’t know what to make of his feelings, and so when he was with Blitzø, he still felt ashamed about being with him.
Yeah it's understandable, but it still doesn't make it okay to do. Hopefully Stolas reflects on that some himself.
@@DoctorOaks I think he does reflect on it, especially after The night at Ozzie's. He sees how Blitzø views their relationship and wants to try to fix it with the crystal, which we will have to see if it worked or if Blitzø viewed the gift as means to Stolas getting rid of him.
12:20 "Don't you want to be able to help me and your mama out?"
"'Course I want to help mama!"
Note he didn't say anything about wanting to help out dad.
I find it interesting that you only realised Stella was abusive when she tried to hit Stolas. From my point of view, the public humiliation, as well as the constant insults and dismissal, that we see throughout the episode are signs of emotional abuse. And of course when we saw her in season 1 (specifically in Loo Loo Land) she was screaming (more like shrieking) and throwing things at him. Back then, it could've seemed more justified because of his cheating on her, but with what this episode shows us, it really seems to me like Stella emotionally abused Stolas from the beginning, and it maybe escalated to verbal and physical abuse as well after the cheating. Though the physical and verbal abuse could've been there before too, we can't really know that. Whatever the case, I just wanted to point this out because emotional abuse is so invisible sometimes and flies over our heads completely, but it's just as damaging and traumatic as any other kind of abuse. :(
As revealed in the end credits, Stolas' father is Paimon.
Unlike in the show, he is usually depicted as a man riding a camel.
While different works credit him with different titles, in the Ars Goetia (the demenology from real life which forms the basis for a lot the high ranking demons in this show), he is one of the nine kings of hell, the same rank Asmodeus holds, too. Though whether or not he's also on the same level as a Sin in this show remains to be seen.
He said to be highly knowledgeable about the world. In some versions, he can even see the past and the future.
Lastly, he is also said to be quite loyal towards Lucifer.
god as an ex-genshin player i Know that paimon has its origins but goddamn if it aint sound cursed
Check the wallpaper in the background of the room where Stolas and Paimon talk. Notice anything? Yup. Camels!Vivzie and co. are really good about including these little details about the Sins and other named demons' origins, even if they aren't on the character's design itself!
@@aperson9597 Fun fact. All the archons are also named after Goetia demons.
@@xXSamir44Xx dam its really trippy being in this fandom after quitting genshin 🌚
Asmodeus Crystals are the only way for demons to get access to Earth... Well, other than Stolas' grimoire
Fun fact: John Freeman is the voice of both Blitzo and Stolas' dads. He is also the voice of Jafar from Disney's Aladdin
Which is why I found it funny when she sang "I Can Show You The World" partway through her reaction.
@@RoxasOnSummerVacation same lol
I remember this episode being really controversial when it came out. People didn't like it for a number of various reasons: the childhood 'friends' to future problematic lovers plot was deemed too 'fanficy', the part about Blitz being bought to be Stolas's playmate rubbed alot of people the wrong way for obviously understandable reasons and for *ruining Stella's character.* This was the most we'd gotten of Stella after years of waiting and it shattered many peoples hopes that Stella would be a sympathetic bad bitch like Verosika. It also doesn't help that it plays into the 'the person being cheated on deserves it for being an asshole' trope that's prevalent in stories where the main couple is having an affair. But despite everything, I still like this episode. It does a good job of portraying the very big differences between how Stolas viewed their relationship versus how Blitz saw things, and I think that's worth something at least.
I have a mixed feelings about what was shown in the flashbacks in this episode. On the one hand, it was both interesting and cute, and I saw in it a good reference to the Prince of Egypt, like Stolas - Ramses, Blitz - Moses and Paimon - Seti I. Like the theme of friendship between the royal heir and a child from a race that serves his family, and the father monarch, tough and demanding of his son. Oh, and from there the groundwork of the conflict, why Blitzo thinks that the supreme does not care about them, and interesting things about the Elders and Juniors Goetia, who gave rise to the theory of the slowing down of the flow of time in Hell compared to the Earth, or vice versa, acceleration, as well as in I'm basically comparing it to Greek mythology. But on the other hand to me, their relationship and the characters themselves are seen as Tony "Lip" Vallelonga and Donald "Don" Shirley from the movie Green Book, again well-read and major, brutal and armed individuals whose paths cross by the will of fate, and they may not get along at first, but then they get into each other. That is, if Stolas wasn't shown as a child, but as a full-fledged adult, formed ancient demon who hires and twists a relationship with Blitzo that grows into something more.
Here is why it is possible to partially justify Stella and her actions. No one asked her permission to marry either, she was also extradited against it. But she had to live all her life with someone she didn't love, with whom she couldn't find or enjoy him. She was just as simple a tool in the hands of her parents, especially her father, who did nothing but indulge his daughter's habits and desires, not seeing or wanting to pay her special attention only to his heir, the future Marquis. It couldn't have been any better with her mother, she could oppress her and make her think that, as a woman in Goetia, she would hardly achieve anything. All this made Stella resentful of the whole world. And Stolas also cheated on her, and not just cheated on her, but with a demon of the lowest demon, disgraced her in front of her friends, in front of all Goetia, filed for divorce, and in the end left her with nothing, That is, her whole life was wasted, everything for which she herself was born, as she was indoctrinated, was in vain. Out of madness, anger and despair, she went off the rails, and came up with nothing better than to hire a killer with a special weapon, thanks to which she could finally fight the one who had taken away all the years of her life that she had lived with him, and blindly believing and hoping that everything that belonged to him would go to her. Her only redemptive thing is possible, if not in love, then at least something maternal towards Octavia. It's not yet fully resolved, but she at least takes it with her for the weekend, and worries that Stolas is turning her daughter against her. Yes, many people believe that Stella hates Octavia, just by the phrase "it's a good thing that egg fell out of me", but she said it more in the sense that she didn't have to fuck Stolas anymore when she insulted him in front of her friends. That doesn't say anything about hating or not loving Octavia. In general, I will say more that perhaps she wants her daughter to become a real full-fledged Goetia with abilities, a position, and not just an instrument of marriage. But what Stolas has done can get in the way. And then her manipulative older brother decided to cash on this whole situation. Actually, I'm really looking forward to the full development of the plot and the characters themselves and their relationships in full form.
I still find the "Ruining Stella" argument to be flawed and dumb, we know that she is f'ed in the head way before this episode, like, she literally hired Striker to kill Stolas and people are surprised that she isn't a sweet little baby who did nothing wrong? Besides, if anything, I have my own take on this episode and Stella, and is that both Stolas and Stella are two sides of the same coin; Both raised in families that cared little if nothing for them and only had them for their benefit, and meanwhile Stella got dragged into the whole environment and "blended it", as well as we see in the picture that Paimon show Stolas were she got so broken she resorted to violence, and as for Stolas, he stood his ground and refused to gave in, no matter how much he got hurt, they're the same faith with different outcomes, and I've seen no one else realize that
@@MarkMark-lx6glIt may explain Stella and her actions, but definitely not justify (other than in her own conceited mind)
@@aprillee7555agreed 100%
Ruining Stella's character was the stupidest shit I've ever seen.
Nothing was ruined, she was always a cunt. And it's okay.
She suffered from an arranged marriage too but she made it trash for stolas since the beginning even whens stolas was willing to try. She was the one who made the choice to be bitchy.
So she suffers for it.
Maybe if they both tried together, blitz and his affair never would've ocurred.
I love how Blitzø is js like "of course I wanna help mama!" But not including his father 😂
I love that they got Jonathan Freeman (the original voice actor for Jafar who still does the character to this day) to voice the father characters of Blitz and Stolas. He is such an underrated gem and deserves far more recognition.
"Is she still going to try to kill him?"
Hehe, eh...
Ya, any potential sympathy I had for Stella flew right out of the window with this episode.
Well, let me give it back to you. Here is why it is possible to partially justify Stella and her actions. No one asked her permission to marry either, she was also extradited against it. But she had to live all her life with someone she didn't love, with whom she couldn't find or enjoy him. She was just as simple a tool in the hands of her parents, especially her father, who did nothing but indulge his daughter's habits and desires, not seeing or wanting to pay her special attention only to his heir, the future Marquis. It couldn't have been any better with her mother, she could oppress her and make her think that, as a woman in Goetia, she would hardly achieve anything. All this made Stella resentful of the whole world. And Stolas also cheated on her, and not just cheated on her, but with a demon of the lowest demon, disgraced her in front of her friends, in front of all Goetia, filed for divorce, and in the end left her with nothing, That is, her whole life was wasted, everything for which she herself was born, as she was indoctrinated, was in vain. Out of madness, anger and despair, she went off the rails, and came up with nothing better than to hire a killer with a special weapon, thanks to which she could finally fight the one who had taken away all the years of her life that she had lived with him, and blindly believing and hoping that everything that belonged to him would go to her. Her only redemptive thing is possible, if not in love, then at least something maternal towards Octavia. It's not yet fully resolved, but she at least takes it with her for the weekend, and worries that Stolas is turning her daughter against her. Yes, many people believe that Stella hates Octavia, just by the phrase "it's a good thing that egg fell out of me", but she said it more in the sense that she didn't have to fuck Stolas anymore when she insulted him in front of her friends. That doesn't say anything about hating or not loving Octavia. In general, I will say more that perhaps she wants her daughter to become a real full-fledged Goetia with abilities, a position, and not just an instrument of marriage. But what Stolas has done can get in the way. And then her manipulative older brother decided to cash on this whole situation. Actually, I'm really looking forward to the full development of the plot and the characters themselves and their relationships in full form.
@@MarkMark-lx6gl With all due respect. The fact that she herself was a tool trapped in a loveless marriage doesn’t excuse the fact that in this marriage (Where FYI all her needs were met say for emotional or sexual) she chose to make this person miserable. Her partner willing or not was the target of her meanness and for what? Laughs! And she most certainly didn’t give a damn about image when she posted in the paper about the “Not divorced yet” party, or when barking loudly about how bad he was in bed. OR how she was glad they produced an heir because she didn’t even have to pretend anymore.
Yeah, Stella completely demolished any possible sympathy she could be granted, and the signs have been there from the start.
Was she forced into an unwanted marriage and into a situation where she was being told to have sex with someone she didn’t want? Yes. But she also had a choice in how she handled that shitty card. And she chose to be extremely cruel and perpetuate cycles of abuse and take it out on anyone she could.
Not only was she emotionally abusive throughout the marriage, but then there’s the physical abuse as well. Stolas’ catch of her attempted strike paints a picture of this NOT being the first time she’s gone to hit him. And even as far back as 1x2 we have her throwing the staff and his plants while screaming at him-more physical abuse. And the fact that she was doing this in front of Octavia (and where Via could potentially be in the line of fire) is abuse towards Via as well. And the fact that Via was so nonchalant about it meant that this was a regular occurrence.
She could have handled the situation with the same grace and dignity that Stolas did. She could have tried to at least keep things amicable with Stolas and heck, who would know if they had decided to go the turkey baster route to get an heir? There were options.
But no, none of them would have been as satisfying to that nasty POS. There’s only so much allowance you can give someone once they’re an adult and both capable and expected to make their own choices.
I've never liked her 😂
@@MarkMark-lx6gl yeah....still no sympathy. She sucks.
“I feel like their relationship blew up somewhere along the way”
She doesn’t know…
11:53 oh my god, blitz wears his moms necklace 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I really want to see such a scene in the future, as if we are shown a flashback of little Blitzo and Barbie, whose sibling relationship has not yet been broken, and their relationship with their mother, and then the camera focuses on her necklace and the shot is replaced by a sad Blitzo who is holding and looking at this necklace. And then Moxxie knocks on his door and announces their new target from a new client. Blitzo comes to his senses and puts the necklace around his neck in a hurry. All in all, it's a classic.
May I tell you that owls mate for life? And when their mate dies they don't mate ever again? Yeah...
Oh uhm...
I. AM. SO. *_PUMPED!!!_* I adore this episode with all my heart!! Cannot wait to see Weeby's reaction :O
The episode when people find out "Huh yeah maybe I don't blame Stolas for cheating on Stella after all."
Here is why it is possible to partially justify Stella and her actions. No one asked her permission to marry either, she was also extradited against it. But she had to live all her life with someone she didn't love, with whom she couldn't find or enjoy him. She was just as simple a tool in the hands of her parents, especially her father, who did nothing but indulge his daughter's habits and desires, not seeing or wanting to pay her special attention only to his heir, the future Marquis. It couldn't have been any better with her mother, she could oppress her and make her think that, as a woman in Goetia, she would hardly achieve anything. All this made Stella resentful of the whole world. And Stolas also cheated on her, and not just cheated on her, but with a demon of the lowest demon, disgraced her in front of her friends, in front of all Goetia, filed for divorce, and in the end left her with nothing, That is, her whole life was wasted, everything for which she herself was born, as she was indoctrinated, was in vain. Out of madness, anger and despair, she went off the rails, and came up with nothing better than to hire a killer with a special weapon, thanks to which she could finally fight the one who had taken away all the years of her life that she had lived with him, and blindly believing and hoping that everything that belonged to him would go to her. Her only redemptive thing is possible, if not in love, then at least something maternal towards Octavia. It's not yet fully resolved, but she at least takes it with her for the weekend, and worries that Stolas is turning her daughter against her. Yes, many people believe that Stella hates Octavia, just by the phrase "it's a good thing that egg fell out of me", but she said it more in the sense that she didn't have to fuck Stolas anymore when she insulted him in front of her friends. That doesn't say anything about hating or not loving Octavia. In general, I will say more that perhaps she wants her daughter to become a real full-fledged Goetia with abilities, a position, and not just an instrument of marriage. But what Stolas has done can get in the way. And then her manipulative older brother decided to cash on this whole situation. Actually, I'm really looking forward to the full development of the plot and the characters themselves and their relationships in full form.
I didn't blame him from the start. She wasn't even mad about the cheating. She was mad it was with an imp lol
This is pure pain
Blitzø & Stolas seeing each other for the first time in 25 years makes the former’s breakdown at the end of S1E8 so much more heartbreaking. Look at it like this:
Many queer characters and their love stories depict 18~20 somethings or even teens in blossoming relationships (Love Simon, Heartstopper, The Owl House), but Blitzø & Stolas are two men in/passing their prime. So in S1E8, when Blitzø was a crying drunk, “I’m gonna die alone, aren’t I? Just a wrinkly, old, withered waste…”, that gives you an idea how he’s feeling. He’s not like Moxxie & Millie who found each other in their mid 20s and are happily married. He’s got almost a decade on them, and he’s worried he’s not worth loving now, and that his best years are behind him. He thinks he’s running out of time.
So why should he get close to Stolas and risk getting hurt? He wants to experience a good relationship, but this noble seems to only view him as a plaything, or as the lower class. He verbalized as much when he was at Queen Bee’s party, “is queen bee too scared to lose, to a little imp like ME?!” That’s all he thinks he is in the nobles’ eyes. And since Stolas didn’t stand up for him in Ozzie’s (remember Stolas covered his face with the menu, after Asmodeus blasted their relationship in the club), his inaction seems to solidify the idea that he’s just a notch on Stolas’ belt, a commodity that can be fetishized.
MY PRECIOUS BOY STOLAS DESERVES HAPPINESS MAN 😢
I rewatched Truth Seekers recently, and realized that an instrumental version Stolas’ song ‘Owl in a Cage’/Stolas Sings is played when Stolas reveals himself at DHORKS. Full circle there.
The o in Blitzø’s name is silent now, so the only people who pronounce the O are people who are intentionally being mean to him
Blitzo is a deadname, Blitz is his preference
Something interesting to think about is that owls in real life only fall in love once so maybe when stolas falls in love here he is incapable of falling in love with anyone again, romantically of course.
I really hope not, though, since it seems probable that Goetia live much longer than imps do :(
STOOOOOP I DONT WANNA THINK ABOUT THIS 😭
13:37 A little detail I love is that at the end of the Ozzie's episode, Stolas bows to Blitz when he ways goodbye. He never let his father's worldview get to him!
btw I did a literary analysis of "stolas sings (owl in a cage)" and it invokes so many feelings with just a few lines
0:39 …you could say that again!
3:46- 3:49 I picture it like this. Stolas (at least in the show) has 2 majors. One in Astronomy and the other in Astrology. He uses both often. He also has a minor in botany which almost never comes up.
Oh yea, asmodeous crystals are used to travel to the living world, thats how succubus like verosika are able to travel to the living world
I CANNOT WAIT for you to react to "look my way" after you finish episode 7
In case anyone was curious, the translation of the page on Asmodean Crystals reads as follows:
"Bestowed to mainly succubi and incubi by the king sin of lust - these crystals allow access to the mortal realm.
Any hellborn in possession of a registered crystal may be granted portal summons.
It is common practice to have the crystal paired with another object for convenience.
Jewelry is the most popular option.
This writing runes shit was fun at first, but I know I am def not doing it right and I should be spending more time with my friends and family."
That last line is sending me 😂 I literally laughed out loud once I finished translating it. I love it when animators put fun details in their works like this.
This is one of my favourite episodes in the series, it really made me like Stolas so much more, and made you realise Blitz did have a special meaning to him even if he doesn't always express it in the best way. Also stuff like Blitz manipulating Stolas' feelings just to get the Grimoire only making it worse, but also him feeling like Stolas is just fetishising him yet he can't help but feel invited by Stolas' expressions of love. There's a lot going on here, it's very bittersweet, but hopefully things get better.
His actual name is Blitzo, but after he made his own business and probably because he doesn’t want to remember the circus, he changed his name to Blitzø (silent o).
Also so you know the white marks on imps are scares.
That was Jonathan Freeman who voiced both Paimon (Stolas' father) and Buckzo (Blitz's father). He voiced Jafar in the OG Disney's Aladdin.
Blitzø's fathers name is actually Cash. Buckzo its a last name.
I love how Stolas was calm until Blitz bit his....... awakening all his sexual desires
In case you missed it, blitzø was raised in the circus so probably didn’t learn how to read and write which is why he looks down on books so much
Cash: "Dont you want to help _me_ and your mama?"
Blitzø: "Of course I want to help _mama!"_
Well, as in Genshin, the "Goetia" family are indeed "real" deamons from a medieval book. In Helluva Boss, the Goetia are bellow 7 Deadly Sins and above Overlords
I don't know if it's said in the story or not, but Blitzø's father mainly teaches Blitzø negatively about greed, but on the other hand, Blitzø's mother teaches Blitzø positively. That caused Blitzø's father to take advantage of this point to manipulate Blitzø.
14:20 Considering the fact that Jafar’s VA voices the dad, pretty ironic song choice 😂
Next episode - the best quote of the entire series so far.
Octavia's question to Loona? Or Stolas encouraging Blitzø? Or something else? 🥳
several of them to be honest....as much as some elements of the next episode feel very...lazy from a creative standpoint. The interactions with the main cast are some of the best in the show. Especially that last conversation.
Paimon is the name of an actual demon from the Lesser Key of Solomon book where it has many volumes and one of these volumes are the Ars Goetias and Paimon is considered as one of the many Kings of the Ars Goetia. Most of the Goetia demons in the book are actually Fallen Angels like Lucifer, but we don't know if Vivziepop herself will implement that detail.
I love this episode! Little Stolas 🥺
7:07 Personally, I took that line- "You tried a solo act; it didn't work out so well."- to be a show business metaphor for how Blitz tried to start some sort of new life by himself, and it flopped because as much as he'd hate to admit it, Blitz is more successful when he has help.
10:56 I mean, Blitz's weapon of choice is a flintlock pistol ;)
25:46 I think Blitzo is his birth name, but he makes the o silent to cut himself off from his circus background (like Stolas said, "o" makes it like a clown name), and he probably can't get it legally changed. Those who still call him "Blitzo" are those he knew before he made it his dead-name and either despise him enough to not respect his new name, or he just hasn't talked to more recently.
30:18 Someone translated the text, and it's basically what Asmodeus gives succubi and incubi so they can travel to the human world and do their sinning with human disguises.
33:03 Her brother's name that was slipped in there was Andrealphus, who's a marquis in real life demonology.
Yeah it wasn't communicated perfectly, but Paimon bought Blitz for the day. He specifies that it's Stolas' birthday and he doesn't want to deal with him, and Cash, Blitz's dad mentions that Fizz has more shows for 'today', confirming that Paimon was interested in getting Stolas a temp playmate to shut him up. And to add to the 'Paimon sucks' fire, he tells Stolas, "Here's your new friend" KNOWING Blitz is only there for the day. He doesn't care if Stolas gets attached to someone he might never see again
There actually is a baby stolas and blitz plushies you can pre order from their store! They come with a music box inside too and they have magnetic hands to hold eachh others hands 🥰
Season 2, let’s go!
if u listen to other scenes with stolas like ep 6 when he shows up u can hear this song in background
No worries! Since the show is called Helluva Boss, I’m sure the series is about Blitzø getting his $hit together and he will eventually do right by Stolas! They just need to tear their facades down and be real with each other.
Really love your reaction and review!! I love it when people have as much hope as I do for these two!!
i love telling people this and i never see people say it, but stolas' owl in a cage song is playing in the background in most of the scenes hes in, which i find pretty cool :3
The succubuses use Asmodean Crystals to travel to Earth.
The crystals are one of the only ways for most demons to “legally” enter the mortal world, so he is researching how to cut off their business deal and free him. You should definitely watch the non-show song that he sings because its related as well and so so impactful.
Those look more like chihuahua flies rather than cats
Asmodean Crystals are magical jewelry offered by Asmodeus to his succubi and inccubi so they can travel to the living world and disguise themself as humans. Verosika and her crew has some to do their duty, That's how they got to the living world in Spring Break
25:55 Yeah, it’s his stage name. When characters call him Blitzø, it’s either when he was still using the name Blitzø (when he’s a kid and teen), or when they’re trying to insult him/piss him off on purpose. Like Fizzaroli, Verosika, and Striker. People who respect him call him Blitzø, like M&M, Stolas, and Loona.
asmodiun crystels are crysdtals that sucubus use to get to the living world its meant to be a gift for blitzo so he doesnt feel trapped with stolas
The playdate between Blitz and Fizz is foreshadowing 😉
Fun fact: you can actually translate the asmodian crystal in the book
Or just read what other people translated.
If you look closely, you will notice that all adults also have the same mark on their forehead. It's a tattoo owned by the circus.
season 2 is where it gets real good