I remember back in the day, you were the GOAT if you had access to a BBS. I lost count how many blank floppies were traded to bootlegged games on the playground back in middle school :).
‘I am considerably blinder than you!’ I recently found your channel and as someone with no sight whatsoever, I find your content very accessible and enjoyable. So much of youtube is US-centric which is fine, but as a Brit, I love British creators and this channel and your content hits the spot well. Amusing Harry Enfield reference, yes… :) Great work, please do keep on keeping on. I find I’m learning a lot about many things I knew nothing about previously. Every day should be a school day in some capacity or another.
@@LadyDecade 2 things I have to comment on.... 1. Goddamn amazing to own those old machines and games legally :) 2. You're the cutest thing I've ever seen, even cuter than sliced bread. And trust me, I ain't gonna go down on my knees and apologize, so just deal with these facts ;D Back in the days Amiga vs Snes vs Megadrive was the best time to be alive :) Kids nowadays are so ignorant of those golden days.
I remember reading in gaming magazines about this console and being VERY excited for it to come out in the USA. I waited and waited and it didn't come out; so I got a 3DO instead. Don't worry, I didn't pay $699 for the 3DO... I paid HALF that... brand new too. I worked for my local utility company who also ran a retail store selling appliances and electronics. Employees got half off everything in the store. They started to sell the 3DO, and I bought it up for half price! I got a crap ton of stereo equipment half off too. Good times in the early/mid 90's... but it was just before the Internet took hold.
@Brian Babin it was better, but not by much… I sold it to some guy a couple years later for 300 with some games. Atari Jaguar was just about as much of a disappointment to me too, when I bought that from NY when they were first released.
@@mattkennedy6115 Baltimore Gas & Electric company. There are no more stores around today from this company. Ironically, I still work for them to this day… as a contractor however, not a direct employee anymore. I have made a good deal of my career working for them in some form or fashion. Thanks for asking!
I have a vague memory of someone talking about Amiga at a computer show I went to with my daddy in the early 1990s. They were from Europe. I never knew until later that there was a whole other world over there. Kinda wish I had because we had such a great main library, I bet there would have been some interesting arts in the computer magazines there.
Oh my God, that was awesome! First time on your channel and I must say that your bubbly personality and contagious humour made it very enjoyable to watch!
Superfrog at the end of the video made my heart melt, I loved that game so much on the AMIGA 500. Sadly I sold the system to upgrade onto PC in 1995, like so many others. Regret it til this day. The system was the most desirable one of all here in Germany in the early 90ies. Nintendo and Sega were just strange things for us back in the days ;-) ..... btw, I love your british accent and humor. Found your channel today and immediately subscribed!
Superfrog was also released on MS-Dos so you may try to find it to play in DOSBox for example. It was also released for Windows in 2012. There is also Superfrog HD first released in 2013 which is some kind of enhanced remake of the original game. It was released for quite a few platforms.
It’s very refreshing you talking about the history of gaming in great detail instead of joining the flock of youtubers all talking about the same thing over and over again. Keep up the great work and thank you! :)
found one still in box, plastic still on the unit in a friend's attic, and he gave it to me for free and had like 10 cds with it, amazing machine, really had fun playing it and then i found out it has no copy protection on the cd so i downlaoded an ISO from the net with so many games on it and started palying, amazing !
I have mine that I picked up in 1996 and have since had it recapped and added a Terrible Fire “TF330” adding extra memory an 030 accelerator as well as SD card , keyboard support and a video out. First time viewer and loved it thank you! Also great that you mentioned the Retro Computer Museum in Leicester as it is well worth a visit.
Even though CD32 has not sold a lot of units, it got a huge library of games. It was not even about porting them from A500/600 or A1200 over - it could run the same code as these systems, so only differentiator was physical media*. So publishers could re-release the games made prior to launch of the system with ease and in case of multi-floppy games, only minimum effort was required to put them on CD. I don't think anything like this has ever happened again when it comes to relation between home computers and console. Closest thing is upcoming Steam Deck running a SteamOS. *Floppy in case of A500/600, as for A1200 I don't recall games running directly from CD, I think the ones which came on discs needed a HDD - but I may be wrong. Either way, the games library is pretty good for a "failed" system.
Don't know about in the UK, but in the U.S. the A1200 had the floppy drive and internal 2.5 hard drive (at least mine had the hard drive). Most people would do a bunch of upgrades though, I added a combination CPU (68030) and Ram upgrade card, an external hard drive, and a SCSI controller to attach a Zip drive to it. Used it more for animation than gaming, Deluxe paint IV, Real 3d, ADpro, ImageFX. etc...
I worked at a computer store when the CDTV was launched. It got a prime spot in the front-of-shop gallery of demo machines. I don't think we ever sold one. It was neat to show off but wasn't much use to anyone. We did try hooking up a keyboard and floppy drive and running it like an Amiga. Seemed to work.
Neo cd sh*ts all over the cd32 and it was pre gen 16bit and offered zillions more quality than this piece of sh*t. If you want to experience the best games on a commodore machine just get an amiga 500 instead. The cd32 didnt even bring 32 bit to the table. Clearly was a venturous tech demo machine that cost too much because they were desperate more than anything. And yes. It was actual piracy that fired the fatal blow.
@@theoldpcgamer77 saying that is the equivelent of a little turd being better than huge turd. Also aswell the neo geo cd was a cheaper equivilent to the aes. I have a complete collection and the games loading times are the same duration as a saturn and most ps1 games. At the time no one was greatly bothered. Remember, the technology was only cd based. I had amiga games on floppy that out performed most cd32 versions of the same game. The only thing going for it was a digital soundtrack. Everything else including game quality and function were awful. Most cd32 games had an actual amiga dos boot screen when loading. How embarressing. The video says it outsold the mega cd lol funny how many people in life remember it more than the cd32. Its just clickbait to make you believe generalised adjustments of facts and statistics. The console was a waste of money aswell. Worst console in my gaming life.
Would it be odd to by a neo geoCD in 2021..i really want one. So want on loading times..just go get a coke out the fridge or check ya phone lol.. also so you use a old style T.V?
*Been watching loads of your videos sincefinding your channel! SOO HAppy to see a commadore one! I LOVEE the AMiga. I SOOO wanted this when it came out even though the controller looked upside down lol. So gutted the Amiga go messed over by money and staff problems. It was the best system then! Ahhh I miss those days! Thanks a lot for this video! Always love seeing Amiga ones! Cheers*
You should check out Dave Haynie's "Death Bed Vigil" if you're interested in what went on over at Commodore. It's pretty interesting and they were an amazing group of people.
Funny, entertaining and informational. Love this video because it treats the CD32 system fairly. You are not basing it's quality upon units sold but what it could do and what was offered for the time in which it was made. We never got this game system in the U.S. but the Commodore computers were popular. Excellent channel congrats!
And what exactly was that? A system that crashed and failed to boot more times than was acceptable? Games which were inferior to both their 32 and 16 bit counterparts? An exorbitant price for the hardware to run such inferior games and ports? One of the most unintuitive controllers in gaming history? Stories are about narrative. The narrative here is that the system is misunderstood and that’s why it failed. However, the narrative of 99% of non-British people who have both played the games and researched the system and it’s short lifecycle show that it was 100% understood as a badly designed and badly implemented console.
I had one of these. With the SX-1 expansion, 1,4gig harddrive and 4 megs of ram. Which made it a pimped up A1200 with build in CD-ROM. I also used it with a VGA monitor to be able to use flicker free hires. People thought I was crazy buying a 1,4 gig hdd in 1995. -You'll never fill that!!
At the time I bought the CD32 as a replacement for my beloved Amiga 500. I thought the CD32 had a good future because of the success of C64 and A500. And the CD32 itself had more powerful hardware, but very few games took advantage of that. Most of the games I played on it was basically ports from A500 with no boosts what so ever. The only upgrade being faster loading times, and no disk-swapping thanks to the CD-format instead of floppys.
That was kind of the point, at least from Commodore's perspective. They knew that in Europe where the Amiga brand was king, the CD32 was going to sell just on its good name alone. Even if it didn't actually offer existing Amiga owners all that much that was new, they'd buy it anyway based on brand loyalty. It was the North American market where the mostly unknown Amiga game catalogue could be unleashed to its full potential. American users wouldn't have known they were being piled high with old, cheaply ported Amiga games. It would have been all new to the regular American consumer and it actually made a great deal of business sense. Of course... Commodore snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by going insolvent at the worst possible moment so we never got to see if the plan paid off. Maybe there's a parallel universe out there where the plan worked and Commodore effectively pushed its way into the console wars!?
Please take me to that alternate timeline! I love Commodore and I've been obsessed with their team since watching Dave Haynie's "Deathbed Vigil". Definitely worth a watch even if it is almost home movie format.
Got my CD32 in autumn 1993 and in that december even the fmv card. Didn't regret the purchase and had a lot of fun with it (and still have). One thing that is missing in the video, is that almost all of the adventures released for the CD32 had voice (Simon the sorcerer, Beneath a steel sky...). That was really impressive at the time.
The main problem was that the CD32 was just an A1200 with a CD-ROM drive. There were hardly any games that ran exclusively on the CD32. No A1200 owner bought this console only for the soundtracks on CD, because there were also CD32 emulators for AA Amigas. The current value of the CD32 is its rarity.
You are wrong. CD32's problem was lack of games and very low quality of games. Most of the games were just a copy from A500 or A1200. They were often about 2MB of size on 700MB CD-ROM. Just a few of them had CD-AUDIO tracks.
I love the commodore amiga CD 32. And the amiga 500. The problem of the cd 32 was too many ports of the amiga 500. They should released games from scratch for the CD32, it would've been better.
Upgrading games from a outdated system is development. All of the cd32 and 1200, 4000 series games would've looked better developing them from scratch.
Another great video! I grew up in the U.S. in the 80’s and 90’s and love hearing about what other parts of the world were playing and what was popular there at the same time.
Jack was a visionary. Say what you will, he stuck to his guns. Oddly, I knew one dude, growing up, who had an Amiga. Not the CD32...no. Rather and actual Amiga. When he first told me he didn't play Sega or Nintendo, he played Amiga..I had no idea. My PC (One I purchased with paper route money) was a Compaq Presario 386 Pro. So when I saw his Amiga I was shocked at how game friendly it was.
Nope, he wasn't... He was an old style businessman, who wanted produce cheap and sell a lot with healthy margins and without extravagances. He did his goods, he did his bads. But generally, he was the guy without any technological knowledge and direction. He started with type writers trough calculators, ended up with personal computers and he always wanted to sell much. Atari under his leadership didn't do any better than Commodore. Why? Because gaming market was taken by the consoles, and professional - by PCs.
Having sold my retro collection to a local collector i'm glad i can come to channels like yours to remind me of my 90's teenage memories. Love these story based videos.
Was chuffed when I got one the first Xmas they were out . Yes most games didn't really use much of the extra power .lots of games were just identical a500 games or aga 1200 with some video intros . The cd format did mean that games like dark seed that came on large amounts of floppies we could now play without the annoying disk changing
My father bought one for me in 1996 with a SX32 Pro and 64MB RAM and a 512MB 2,5" HDD and black keyboard and mouse, i loved that machine, i wish i was not so stupid by selling it, but 6 years ago i bought another Amiga CD32 with now a TF330 v3 128MB RAM, and i and my nephews love all the games i have, i have 43 original Amiga CD32 games now. I really miss the good old Amiga times, it was a great time, with a good friend who also had a Amiga and later Amiga CD32, and we would, go to a Amiga club every month.
The cd is the reason that makes the cd32 the best option to play Amiga games, either by real hardware or emulation. No changing floppies. One cd, 50 games. (pirate compilations). ;)
@@AmigaWolf Yeah good old times. I am still amazed on how long the Community kept the system somewhat alive after Commodore went bust. I had an Amiga 1200 tower with a SCSI DVD burner, rattly but cool system.
Yep, I remember this being shown off at a computer retailer here. I kind of wanted one, but I wanted to see how it shook out. Turns out, it didn't shake out at all. On the upside, it's something we got in Canada that the US didn't, so, yay?!
"Misunderstood" console. That's the first time I've heard it stated that way. That's what makes this interesting. Probably the most informative piece on that console I've ever seen.
As a born and raised West Midlander, the Brummie accent attempt was valiant but off. Some of it bled into Yam Yam, Brummies typically don' t say "Yow" and the stuff about the factory sounded way north of anything from round here 😂 Even so, great content as a whole.
I worked for Tandy in the uk and we sold stacks of SNES and mega drives and amigas but we couldn’t sell cd32,had a huge pile of them in the stockroom.The price and that dreadful joypad and games no better than on the a500,1200.I remember the Amiga version of street fighter,what a shit show.
I loved the Amiga and the subsequent CD32. I managed to buy a CD32 down here in NZ as well as quite a few games and was heartbroken when Commodore pulled out of our country.
I loved my CD32, but never understood this and PS1 needed a hardware addon for VideoCDs. Both machines were capable of playing FMV in game, so surely it was just software/codec needed for full movies.
I think the idea is that without hardware compression the video compression was poor and so the file size was large. It was possible to have a codec with poor compression (indexed colour videos at a low framerate, low resolution) but full movies using that approach would span many CDs. By comparison full movies on VCD (precursor to DVD using MPEG 1) were on 2 CDs, so a CPU codec with poor compression might easily span 10 CDs for a full movie.
A fantastic and respectful coverage of the CD32. I always find the 5th generation of consoles fascinating to learn more about and though I've never owned a CD32, the A1200 child I was has an instant fondness for it. Whilst it's true that the system would have likely faltered against the PS/SS/N64, I could see a CD32 unhindered by company bankruptcy fighting 3DO for that 4th place spot. As for systems to recommend a video on, how about the Watara/Quickshot Supervision. I find that a pretty intriguing handheld.
Compared to the PlayStation, Saturn and N64... It would have been considerably under powered. I remember playing it in a shop around the time of release and being underwhelmed in comparison to the Amiga 500, which my brother owned
It wasn’t the console, it was the shovelware they sold for it. Because of lack of time a fair amount of games sold as CD32 titles were A500 games put on CDs without much effort put into it and therefore felt underwhelming, especially for those who knew earlier Amiga models. However, the ones made with A1200 in mind, and in some cases even expansions such as math coprocessors and extra RAM, were usually truly great.
It is always interesting to watch British UA-camrs talk about the home micro era. Cuz I can relate to exactly 0% of it. By the late 80s EVERYONE was using x86 PCs and most of them were using DOS. I remember typing DOS commands before I knew how to read. It's bizarre to me that anything else even existed let alone was so huge.
By the late 80s European gamers moved over to machines such as the ST and Amiga. The Amiga is an odd one as it was massive here in Europe but struggled in its home country, the US. At that time the PC seemed laughably basic compared to the Amiga.
@@roberthazelby4424 Yeah I'm racking my brain to think of when I first heard of the Amiga. I think it was during a retrospective on Tech TV or something. My dad was an electronic engineer and was always stealing parts from work so naturally everything in our house was X86. I probably saw an ad for it and thought it was another IBM clone for all I knew back then.
@@roberthazelby4424 main difference was that the Amiga and AtariST had a decent integrated sound card for sfx and music and even synthesizing applications. On DOS PCs up to the mid-90s there were a lot of systems relying only on PC speaker sound. One reason very few DOS games in late-80s had any decent sound, up the advent of Adlib costing over 200 usd and lacking any sfx. Other alternatives from Roland and IBM were ultra expensive.
If you have not put them next to a magnet like in a speaker, and in a dry place, most if not all will still work great, i have all my old C64 games and they all still work, and they are easily 35 years old.
4:30 Cricket? Cricket? Nobody understands Cricket! You gotta know what a crumpet is, to understand Cricket! Sorry, had to quote one of my fav childhood films! Great vid as always Lady D!
First video of yours I've seen. Had to stop by 2:28.....TO SUBSCRIBE! OMG How have I not seen you before? I love your presentation style and humor! WOW! Great stuff!
In the 90’s beginning was a mess for young kids, what to choose between 1991 and 1994 ? Well too many consoles.. I remember the c32 was for sale here too in Switzerland and I said to a frien : “ you should buy it, it is the most powerful console”… I was so young 😂 Great video!
@@danielespeziari5545 well don’t forget the Neogeo, the Jaguar, the 3do… There was many choices and it was hard to choose ( if you had lived in Switzerland, because the salaries are very high here so no problem to buy any of those consoles)
I had an Amiga throughout most of the 90s and it was making 2d cartoons with deluxe paint, deluxe video, and a sound sampler that got people most excited. Most of its fun action games were generally ported to consoles, but it also received a number of PC ports that allowed me to not pine so much for a 3000-dollar 386 or 486 PC.
Just like to add that the "Big Box Amigas" were VERY POPULAR with TV Stations,Cable Operators,Movie Industry all due to the VIDEO TOASTER.I talked my local Cable Company into getting a Toaster,and they used it for years,producing content,commercials,etc.Most Cable Operators back then used An A2000 & Genlock for their Cable On Screen TV Guide...
Honestly, the games on the platform didn't see much of a graphical improvement to what was available at the time. Hardly felt 32-bit. Heck, the 32x even the 3do felt more next gen than this system.
I had a CD32 with a SX-1 expansion box and a 8 mega byte ram expansion. and a floppy drive I added an 80 megabyte hardrive. Essentially an A1200 with a CD-ROM
I was one of those rare Americans who had a Amiga 2000 as a kid. My dad got it as it could do animation, 3d animation, video switch, etc. He would lease it to others occasionally.
i love seeing your personality coming out more in the videos now! they were a lil dry at first but i love the direction youve been going! been fun watching you grow and evolve your own style and personality in the videos! keep it up youre doing amazing!
In Poland I had C64, A500, A1200, CDTV, CD32 + SX1 extension that made it fully A1200 with CD and extra features. That was great machine. If I had enough money I would keep it but the PS1 and PC arrived. That was great time for geeks, everything was new and exciting.
All that Nostalgia in the background!!!!! Those times were so tough with how so many raced towards their end.. These days, some are breathing new life into the systems with Homebrews which is delightful
I never knew the Amiga CD 32 was so rare! A friend up the road had one and some really good games on it too - guess I was very lucky to ever play on one 😀
If it was the UK then they weren't rare. Biggest selling console of Xmas 1993. Well advertised and smothered in games immediately after release. Anywhere else in the world - especially outside Europe, and yeah, you were pretty lucky to ever see one for real, or even to know of their existence!
Greetings from Poland. Amiga CD32 will have a place in my heart. I bought my device right after A500+. I remember playing Oscar / Diggers, Furry of the Furries, Ufo Enemy Unknown, Whale's Voyage. I even had SX extention, floppy, keyboard, additional memory, HDD. It was very cool and underappriciated device.
Finally a lucid, informative piece about CD32 to tidy up the mess AVGN did with his half-ass video. Seriously, how can one judge a system by playing a bunch of games found in a skip?? It’s like saying NES was a piece of kaka after playing LJN games only. Unfortunately what he says is considered revealed truth by many. Your video may be enlightening for some of them. Thanks for that!
I still got my Amiga 600 and it runs just fine =) Shocks me that I played SNES games on it with higher quallity while I also had a SNES back when I was 3-4 years old. the PSU somehow quit working so I connected a old psu to it ^,^
I really enjoyed this video Lady Decade. I've seen a lot of people do a CD32 video and I love that you've put your own spin on the story and I've learned things that I had not known from the content provided by your esteemed UA-cam colleagues. 20/10, will watch again! :)
This video was worth just hearing Lady Decade say, "Atari Jag-u-ar". Priceless! I as an American actually use that pronunciation because Jag-war just sounds weird now. Thank you!
In 1995 I got my first job and was provided with a Windows 95 “workstation.” Then Sony came out of nowhere with the all-3D console “playstation,” combined with CD player. As far as I was concerned, Commodore and Atari were completely obsolete by this point. I slightly regret not shopping around for a CBM Pet in this time period, but on the whole I’m glad I was never burdened with one.
Legend is, there is an Amiga CD32 buried inside the attic of my parents house. One that I shelved back in the late 90s. My favorite games I enjoyed on it were Diggers, Microcosm, Pirates Gold or Labyrinth of Time.
Yeah is had many great games, i know because i have 43 original Amiga CD32 games, and i still play them with my nephews. And i also have Diggers, and Microcosm, and The Labyrinth of Time.
I would love to get my hands on a CD32. It's such a beautiful system. And the rumoured CD64 and the Hombre chipset are such interesting what-if scenarios. Anyway... And wow, that classes for the masses bit... Birmingham! :D Yes, I giggled a lot at that. :D
Still have mine with it fmv cart, games are still coming out like power glove. Also road avenger and time gal, plus a disc with loads of a500 games on it.
Cringe-worthingly excellent! Your wit is so bad it's amazing. First Vid of yours I've watched. You've got a new Sub for sure. Great history lesson of Commodore by the way. I never knew anything about their later issues that would ultimately bring about their demise!
Brilliant Vid genuinely funny and informative. The research you pour into content just shines out in and is reflected in the sterling quality of your work. just remember don't copy that floppy :-))
Love my CD32. Please do the FM Towns Marty/2. They're a lot of fun! It'd be also fun to see how well you deal/dodge the issue of 50% of the titles being pr0n... (Japan!) but there's some amazing games and conversions.
Okay, that “don’t copy that floppy” spoof in the middle was fantastic. Legitimate LOL. Great video.
Can we do the whole thing?
Delightful 90's cheese with that one.
I remember back in the day, you were the GOAT if you had access to a BBS. I lost count how many blank floppies were traded to bootlegged games on the playground back in middle school :).
Reminds me of the “Just Say No” Grange Hill video….
8 year old me with my Amiga Xcopy disk... Too late.
‘I am considerably blinder than you!’
I recently found your channel and as someone with no sight whatsoever, I find your content very accessible and enjoyable.
So much of youtube is US-centric which is fine, but as a Brit, I love British creators and this channel and your content hits the spot well.
Amusing Harry Enfield reference, yes… :)
Great work, please do keep on keeping on. I find I’m learning a lot about many things I knew nothing about previously.
Every day should be a school day in some capacity or another.
Wow thank you, this is one of the best comments I have ever received xxx
@@LadyDecade 2 things I have to comment on....
1. Goddamn amazing to own those old machines and games legally :)
2. You're the cutest thing I've ever seen, even cuter than sliced bread.
And trust me, I ain't gonna go down on my knees and apologize, so just deal with these facts ;D
Back in the days Amiga vs Snes vs Megadrive was the best time to be alive :)
Kids nowadays are so ignorant of those golden days.
@@tonihaukijarvi wow.
@@tonihaukijarvi she is indeed a lovely lady but she is spoken for my friend. Top Hat Gaming Man is the lucky fella as far as I know
@@mirotrevino9662 The best ones are always spoken for :)
I remember reading in gaming magazines about this console and being VERY excited for it to come out in the USA. I waited and waited and it didn't come out; so I got a 3DO instead. Don't worry, I didn't pay $699 for the 3DO... I paid HALF that... brand new too. I worked for my local utility company who also ran a retail store selling appliances and electronics. Employees got half off everything in the store. They started to sell the 3DO, and I bought it up for half price! I got a crap ton of stereo equipment half off too. Good times in the early/mid 90's... but it was just before the Internet took hold.
Nice deal. Good times. Ok are they hiring?& Are u well Ng that 3do
@Brian Babin it was better, but not by much… I sold it to some guy a couple years later for 300 with some games. Atari Jaguar was just about as much of a disappointment to me too, when I bought that from NY when they were first released.
@@CharlesHepburn2 hey just curious which utility company did you work for?
@@mattkennedy6115 Baltimore Gas & Electric company. There are no more stores around today from this company. Ironically, I still work for them to this day… as a contractor however, not a direct employee anymore. I have made a good deal of my career working for them in some form or fashion. Thanks for asking!
I have a vague memory of someone talking about Amiga at a computer show I went to with my daddy in the early 1990s. They were from Europe. I never knew until later that there was a whole other world over there. Kinda wish I had because we had such a great main library, I bet there would have been some interesting arts in the computer magazines there.
It’s fun seeing Amiga get more mainstream coverage. Thanks for this video! My channel is a fly speck but we all do what we can for AMIGA!
AMIGA!!! 🤜
Oh my God, that was awesome! First time on your channel and I must say that your bubbly personality and contagious humour made it very enjoyable to watch!
My goodness, when you started with "The period's approaching...", I was expecting quite a miserable episode!
*Reloads youtube homepage after making some fried rice*
*sees video made public 32 seconds ago*
Well well well, don't mind if I do.
As an American, I feel I just got a large, healthy dose of British humor. This channel is educational in many ways. 😏
I was about to comment the same thing. Those accent impressions were the best.
True. I love watching this channel for seeing how the Brits handled the '80s and '90s.
Snark never has the same bite ihere are it does over there.
Please don't take this as British humour it's bad humour the world over 😂
As an American Amiga user, i resent being lumped in with Trump. As if the English haven’t been doing exactly the same thing… koff BREXIT koff.
Superfrog at the end of the video made my heart melt, I loved that game so much on the AMIGA 500. Sadly I sold the system to upgrade onto PC in 1995, like so many others. Regret it til this day. The system was the most desirable one of all here in Germany in the early 90ies. Nintendo and Sega were just strange things for us back in the days ;-) ..... btw, I love your british accent and humor. Found your channel today and immediately subscribed!
Superfrog was also released on MS-Dos so you may try to find it to play in DOSBox for example. It was also released for Windows in 2012.
There is also Superfrog HD first released in 2013 which is some kind of enhanced remake of the original game. It was released for quite a few platforms.
I still have mine!
OH MY! The world needs a full version of your "Don't Copy That Floppy" rendition!
It’s very refreshing you talking about the history of gaming in great detail instead of joining the flock of youtubers all talking about the same thing over and over again. Keep up the great work and thank you! :)
found one still in box, plastic still on the unit in a friend's attic, and he gave it to me for free and had like 10 cds with it, amazing machine, really had fun playing it and then i found out it has no copy protection on the cd so i downlaoded an ISO from the net with so many games on it and started palying, amazing !
I picked up one of these in San Diego California like 9 yrs ago for $90! It has an HP chip inside.
Wow really, don't sell it, it is a great little console/machine, there are many great games for it.
Get the terrible fire card for it and play all of the thousands of amiga games through whdload
This was a lot of fun, and reminded me fondly of my Amiga days.
Please, keep being you and make videos however you enjoy making them! 🤜🤛
I have mine that I picked up in 1996 and have since had it recapped and added a Terrible Fire “TF330” adding extra memory an 030 accelerator as well as SD card , keyboard support and a video out. First time viewer and loved it thank you! Also great that you mentioned the Retro Computer Museum in Leicester as it is well worth a visit.
Even though CD32 has not sold a lot of units, it got a huge library of games. It was not even about porting them from A500/600 or A1200 over - it could run the same code as these systems, so only differentiator was physical media*. So publishers could re-release the games made prior to launch of the system with ease and in case of multi-floppy games, only minimum effort was required to put them on CD. I don't think anything like this has ever happened again when it comes to relation between home computers and console. Closest thing is upcoming Steam Deck running a SteamOS.
*Floppy in case of A500/600, as for A1200 I don't recall games running directly from CD, I think the ones which came on discs needed a HDD - but I may be wrong. Either way, the games library is pretty good for a "failed" system.
Don't know about in the UK, but in the U.S. the A1200 had the floppy drive and internal 2.5 hard drive (at least mine had the hard drive). Most people would do a bunch of upgrades though, I added a combination CPU (68030) and Ram upgrade card, an external hard drive, and a SCSI controller to attach a Zip drive to it.
Used it more for animation than gaming, Deluxe paint IV, Real 3d, ADpro, ImageFX. etc...
As someone who lives near Birmingham I am offended by that attempt at our accent 😂
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I totally agree....where is the ‘r’ in classy?
As someone who’s a bit of a tit, I’m offended at the pair on show here. 🙈
i was offended and i'm from bloody croydon ffs hahahaha
As an American, God bless the Brummie accent. Bloody bostin.
Cringe.
I worked at a computer store when the CDTV was launched. It got a prime spot in the front-of-shop gallery of demo machines. I don't think we ever sold one. It was neat to show off but wasn't much use to anyone. We did try hooking up a keyboard and floppy drive and running it like an Amiga. Seemed to work.
Ditto. We had a CDTV running in the shop, with the fighter jet demo front and centre. I can't imagine we sold more than a handful.
The Neo-Geo CD, or any other spin-offs, would be an interesting topic
Neo cd sh*ts all over the cd32 and it was pre gen 16bit and offered zillions more quality than this piece of sh*t. If you want to experience the best games on a commodore machine just get an amiga 500 instead. The cd32 didnt even bring 32 bit to the table. Clearly was a venturous tech demo machine that cost too much because they were desperate more than anything. And yes. It was actual piracy that fired the fatal blow.
The Neo CD was awful. Massive loads times made it a joke. The AES console was much better even if the carts were 4 times more back then.
@@theoldpcgamer77 saying that is the equivelent of a little turd being better than huge turd. Also aswell the neo geo cd was a cheaper equivilent to the aes. I have a complete collection and the games loading times are the same duration as a saturn and most ps1 games. At the time no one was greatly bothered. Remember, the technology was only cd based. I had amiga games on floppy that out performed most cd32 versions of the same game. The only thing going for it was a digital soundtrack. Everything else including game quality and function were awful. Most cd32 games had an actual amiga dos boot screen when loading. How embarressing. The video says it outsold the mega cd lol funny how many people in life remember it more than the cd32. Its just clickbait to make you believe generalised adjustments of facts and statistics. The console was a waste of money aswell. Worst console in my gaming life.
Would it be odd to by a neo geoCD in 2021..i really want one. So want on loading times..just go get a coke out the fridge or check ya phone lol.. also so you use a old style T.V?
Msg to dandee..
Loved the A500 and won the CD32 in an Amiga Expo in Cologne. Own both systems till today.
*Been watching loads of your videos sincefinding your channel! SOO HAppy to see a commadore one! I LOVEE the AMiga. I SOOO wanted this when it came out even though the controller looked upside down lol. So gutted the Amiga go messed over by money and staff problems. It was the best system then! Ahhh I miss those days! Thanks a lot for this video! Always love seeing Amiga ones! Cheers*
You should check out Dave Haynie's "Death Bed Vigil" if you're interested in what went on over at Commodore. It's pretty interesting and they were an amazing group of people.
Thanks again for a wonderful video. I enjoyed the rap “Don’t copy that floppy.”
Funny, entertaining and informational. Love this video because it treats the CD32 system fairly. You are not basing it's quality upon units sold but what it could do and what was offered for the time in which it was made. We never got this game system in the U.S. but the Commodore computers were popular. Excellent channel congrats!
And what exactly was that?
A system that crashed and failed to boot more times than was acceptable?
Games which were inferior to both their 32 and 16 bit counterparts?
An exorbitant price for the hardware to run such inferior games and ports?
One of the most unintuitive controllers in gaming history?
Stories are about narrative. The narrative here is that the system is misunderstood and that’s why it failed. However, the narrative of 99% of non-British people who have both played the games and researched the system and it’s short lifecycle show that it was 100% understood as a badly designed and badly implemented console.
I had one of these. With the SX-1 expansion, 1,4gig harddrive and 4 megs of ram. Which made it a pimped up A1200 with build in CD-ROM. I also used it with a VGA monitor to be able to use flicker free hires. People thought I was crazy buying a 1,4 gig hdd in 1995. -You'll never fill that!!
The Mega CD stack of the Mega Drive, Mega CD and 32X.... it was like the gaming version of a Big Mac
At the time I bought the CD32 as a replacement for my beloved Amiga 500. I thought the CD32 had a good future because of the success of C64 and A500. And the CD32 itself had more powerful hardware, but very few games took advantage of that. Most of the games I played on it was basically ports from A500 with no boosts what so ever. The only upgrade being faster loading times, and no disk-swapping thanks to the CD-format instead of floppys.
That was kind of the point, at least from Commodore's perspective. They knew that in Europe where the Amiga brand was king, the CD32 was going to sell just on its good name alone. Even if it didn't actually offer existing Amiga owners all that much that was new, they'd buy it anyway based on brand loyalty.
It was the North American market where the mostly unknown Amiga game catalogue could be unleashed to its full potential. American users wouldn't have known they were being piled high with old, cheaply ported Amiga games. It would have been all new to the regular American consumer and it actually made a great deal of business sense.
Of course... Commodore snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by going insolvent at the worst possible moment so we never got to see if the plan paid off.
Maybe there's a parallel universe out there where the plan worked and Commodore effectively pushed its way into the console wars!?
Please take me to that alternate timeline! I love Commodore and I've been obsessed with their team since watching Dave Haynie's "Deathbed Vigil". Definitely worth a watch even if it is almost home movie format.
I love your brummie accent. So authentic. So accurate.
Got my CD32 in autumn 1993 and in that december even the fmv card. Didn't regret the purchase and had a lot of fun with it (and still have). One thing that is missing in the video, is that almost all of the adventures released for the CD32 had voice (Simon the sorcerer, Beneath a steel sky...). That was really impressive at the time.
1993?
@@DIYPanda1 yep, you're right. :)
Lady Decade, I appreciate you & your hubby for speaking your minds. Sweet video. Talk about rare console & game finds, this is just too sweet!
Great video! It's nice to see that you defend the CD32. :-)
I like that for the Amiga section you used the Lotus 2 theme :)
Back in those days, there was a kit to transform your Amiga CD32 into an amiga 1200.
The main problem was that the CD32 was just an A1200 with a CD-ROM drive. There were hardly any games that ran exclusively on the CD32. No A1200 owner bought this console only for the soundtracks on CD, because there were also CD32 emulators for AA Amigas. The current value of the CD32 is its rarity.
You are wrong. CD32's problem was lack of games and very low quality of games. Most of the games were just a copy from A500 or A1200. They were often about 2MB of size on 700MB CD-ROM. Just a few of them had CD-AUDIO tracks.
I love the commodore amiga CD 32. And the amiga 500. The problem of the cd 32 was too many ports of the amiga 500. They should released games from scratch for the CD32, it would've been better.
Upgrading games from a outdated system is development. All of the cd32 and 1200, 4000 series games would've looked better developing them from scratch.
Another great video! I grew up in the U.S. in the 80’s and 90’s and love hearing about what other parts of the world were playing and what was popular there at the same time.
Jack was a visionary. Say what you will, he stuck to his guns. Oddly, I knew one dude, growing up, who had an Amiga. Not the CD32...no. Rather and actual Amiga. When he first told me he didn't play Sega or Nintendo, he played Amiga..I had no idea. My PC (One I purchased with paper route money) was a Compaq Presario 386 Pro. So when I saw his Amiga I was shocked at how game friendly it was.
Nope, he wasn't... He was an old style businessman, who wanted produce cheap and sell a lot with healthy margins and without extravagances. He did his goods, he did his bads. But generally, he was the guy without any technological knowledge and direction. He started with type writers trough calculators, ended up with personal computers and he always wanted to sell much. Atari under his leadership didn't do any better than Commodore. Why? Because gaming market was taken by the consoles, and professional - by PCs.
You forgot to mention the CD32's most important add-on: the paint can.
Having sold my retro collection to a local collector i'm glad i can come to channels like yours to remind me of my 90's teenage memories. Love these story based videos.
Was chuffed when I got one the first Xmas they were out . Yes most games didn't really use much of the extra power .lots of games were just identical a500 games or aga 1200 with some video intros .
The cd format did mean that games like dark seed that came on large amounts of floppies we could now play without the annoying disk changing
My father bought one for me in 1996 with a SX32 Pro and 64MB RAM and a 512MB 2,5" HDD and black keyboard and mouse, i loved that machine, i wish i was not so stupid by selling it, but 6 years ago i bought another Amiga CD32 with now a TF330 v3 128MB RAM, and i and
my nephews love all the games i have, i have 43 original Amiga CD32 games now.
I really miss the good old Amiga times, it was a great time, with a good friend who also had a Amiga and later Amiga CD32, and we would,
go to a Amiga club every month.
The cd is the reason that makes the cd32 the best option to play Amiga games, either by real hardware or emulation. No changing floppies. One cd, 50 games. (pirate compilations). ;)
@@AmigaWolf Yeah good old times. I am still amazed on how long the Community kept the system somewhat alive after Commodore went bust. I had an Amiga 1200 tower with a SCSI DVD burner, rattly but cool system.
Yeah and adding full voice overs to games like monkey Island etc suddenly became possible with CD-ROM.
Yep, I remember this being shown off at a computer retailer here. I kind of wanted one, but I wanted to see how it shook out. Turns out, it didn't shake out at all. On the upside, it's something we got in Canada that the US didn't, so, yay?!
It still had many great games, that came for it in the years.
It's a great system and really collectable these days. I'd probably even prefer one to an A1200 but I collect old Amigas like a magpie!
Not really saying much though. I honestly never really understood why it was even a moderate success in the UK of all places.
I found out about Amiga CD32 from AVGN, glad to hear more about it. My dad had a C64 and C128 so this is interesting for sure.
This was a very clever and clear recap of the complicated Commodore company post-Tramiel! Keep up the great work! Love your content!
Mid-90s gaming was sooooooo awesome at the time, things advanced so much faster than now, it seemed
You make outstanding content, and I hope you more new videos real soon.
Good luck.
-Anthony Addison, greetings from the USA. 🇺🇸
"Misunderstood" console. That's the first time I've heard it stated that way. That's what makes this interesting. Probably the most informative piece on that console I've ever seen.
Next episode of lady decade will no doubt be street fighter, where Mrs decade faces a roster of accent disgruntled demographics.
As a born and raised West Midlander, the Brummie accent attempt was valiant but off. Some of it bled into Yam Yam, Brummies typically don' t say "Yow" and the stuff about the factory sounded way north of anything from round here 😂 Even so, great content as a whole.
Yup I had one of these. No idea why. Sold it very quickly and bought a Turbo Duo.
I worked for Tandy in the uk and we sold stacks of SNES and mega drives and amigas but we couldn’t sell cd32,had a huge pile of them in the stockroom.The price and that dreadful joypad and games no better than on the a500,1200.I remember the Amiga version of street fighter,what a shit show.
I loved the Amiga and the subsequent CD32. I managed to buy a CD32 down here in NZ as well as quite a few games and was heartbroken when Commodore pulled out of our country.
It's a good job you've got a cd32 because your fuhrer won't let you out of the house soon unless you've had your daily death jab.
I loved my CD32, but never understood this and PS1 needed a hardware addon for VideoCDs.
Both machines were capable of playing FMV in game, so surely it was just software/codec needed for full movies.
I think the idea is that without hardware compression the video compression was poor and so the file size was large. It was possible to have a codec with poor compression (indexed colour videos at a low framerate, low resolution) but full movies using that approach would span many CDs. By comparison full movies on VCD (precursor to DVD using MPEG 1) were on 2 CDs, so a CPU codec with poor compression might easily span 10 CDs for a full movie.
A fantastic and respectful coverage of the CD32. I always find the 5th generation of consoles fascinating to learn more about and though I've never owned a CD32, the A1200 child I was has an instant fondness for it. Whilst it's true that the system would have likely faltered against the PS/SS/N64, I could see a CD32 unhindered by company bankruptcy fighting 3DO for that 4th place spot.
As for systems to recommend a video on, how about the Watara/Quickshot Supervision. I find that a pretty intriguing handheld.
I think 4th place is ambitious.
I would rank it well below 3do or Jaguar.
Having said that I rank it below SNES and megadrive too.
Compared to the PlayStation, Saturn and N64... It would have been considerably under powered. I remember playing it in a shop around the time of release and being underwhelmed in comparison to the Amiga 500, which my brother owned
It was basically an A1200 had Commodore not gone bust when it did, it would have been blown out of the water by the PlayStation.
It wasn’t the console, it was the shovelware they sold for it. Because of lack of time a fair amount of games sold as CD32 titles were A500 games put on CDs without much effort put into it and therefore felt underwhelming, especially for those who knew earlier Amiga models. However, the ones made with A1200 in mind, and in some cases even expansions such as math coprocessors and extra RAM, were usually truly great.
It is always interesting to watch British UA-camrs talk about the home micro era. Cuz I can relate to exactly 0% of it. By the late 80s EVERYONE was using x86 PCs and most of them were using DOS. I remember typing DOS commands before I knew how to read. It's bizarre to me that anything else even existed let alone was so huge.
By the late 80s European gamers moved over to machines such as the ST and Amiga. The Amiga is an odd one as it was massive here in Europe but struggled in its home country, the US. At that time the PC seemed laughably basic compared to the Amiga.
@@roberthazelby4424 Yeah I'm racking my brain to think of when I first heard of the Amiga. I think it was during a retrospective on Tech TV or something. My dad was an electronic engineer and was always stealing parts from work so naturally everything in our house was X86. I probably saw an ad for it and thought it was another IBM clone for all I knew back then.
@@roberthazelby4424 main difference was that the Amiga and AtariST had a decent integrated sound card for sfx and music and even synthesizing applications. On DOS PCs up to the mid-90s there were a lot of systems relying only on PC speaker sound. One reason very few DOS games in late-80s had any decent sound, up the advent of Adlib costing over 200 usd and lacking any sfx. Other alternatives from Roland and IBM were ultra expensive.
As always what a fantastic video I love the amiga CD apart from the pad that breaks as easy as thin glass 🤣
Lady decade you rock 😃😃👍👍🎮🕹
I miss my C64 so so much. I need a replacement soon. Still have a lot of games for it, if they even work any more
You got Kang-fu?
If you have not put them next to a magnet like in a speaker, and in a dry place, most if not all will still work great, i have all my old C64 games and they all still work, and they are easily 35 years old.
Classic console, got this with Cannon Fodder back in the 90s. Still working and a classic console. Great vid :)
great video as always Lady Decade !
high quality content, greetings from Brazil!
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More sketches with a Birmingham accent please! (also great video, I used to have CD32 so this was super interesting)
4:30 Cricket? Cricket? Nobody understands Cricket! You gotta know what a crumpet is, to understand Cricket! Sorry, had to quote one of my fav childhood films! Great vid as always Lady D!
Thank you for the entertaining review of the CD32. Only Amiga makes it possible.
First video of yours I've seen. Had to stop by 2:28.....TO SUBSCRIBE! OMG How have I not seen you before? I love your presentation style and humor! WOW! Great stuff!
Thanks for the vid, I thought the cd32 was up against the Saturn, Being up against the mega cd makes more sense now 👍
Nice one! I am from Germany and have the CD32 PAL Version. The original Controller costs a fortune nowadays. Luckily, I have two Honeybees…✌️
In the 90’s beginning was a mess for young kids, what to choose between 1991 and 1994 ? Well too many consoles..
I remember the c32 was for sale here too in Switzerland and I said to a frien : “ you should buy it, it is the most powerful console”…
I was so young 😂
Great video!
Too many consoles, and yet, only two of them were serious contenders (Super Nintendo and Mega Drive). So the choice wasn't as large as it seems.
@@danielespeziari5545 well don’t forget the Neogeo, the Jaguar, the 3do…
There was many choices and it was hard to choose ( if you had lived in Switzerland, because the salaries are very high here so no problem to buy any of those consoles)
I had an Amiga throughout most of the 90s and it was making 2d cartoons with deluxe paint, deluxe video, and a sound sampler that got people most excited. Most of its fun action games were generally ported to consoles, but it also received a number of PC ports that allowed me to not pine so much for a 3000-dollar 386 or 486 PC.
Just like to add that the "Big Box Amigas" were VERY POPULAR with TV Stations,Cable Operators,Movie Industry all due to the VIDEO TOASTER.I talked my local Cable Company into getting a Toaster,and they used it for years,producing content,commercials,etc.Most Cable Operators back then used An A2000 & Genlock for their Cable On Screen TV Guide...
Honestly, the games on the platform didn't see much of a graphical improvement to what was available at the time. Hardly felt 32-bit. Heck, the 32x even the 3do felt more next gen than this system.
That's because a good many were straight ports from the A1200.
The Amiga was never great at games. It is famous for Deluxe Paint, Video Toaster, and many other applications.
I had a CD32 with a SX-1 expansion box and a 8 mega byte ram expansion. and a floppy drive I added an 80 megabyte hardrive. Essentially an A1200 with a CD-ROM
I was one of those rare Americans who had a Amiga 2000 as a kid. My dad got it as it could do animation, 3d animation, video switch, etc. He would lease it to others occasionally.
i love seeing your personality coming out more in the videos now! they were a lil dry at first but i love the direction youve been going! been fun watching you grow and evolve your own style and personality in the videos! keep it up youre doing amazing!
In Poland I had C64, A500, A1200, CDTV, CD32 + SX1 extension that made it fully A1200 with CD and extra features. That was great machine. If I had enough money I would keep it but the PS1 and PC arrived. That was great time for geeks, everything was new and exciting.
A repackaged Amiga A1200 yes? At time 2.26 was when the world became glued to screens as demonstrated today with mobile phones.
Another superb video, but in this one I'd like to point out specifically to the video editing. Very clever use of Amiga soundtracks/effects.
All that Nostalgia in the background!!!!! Those times were so tough with how so many raced towards their end.. These days, some are breathing new life into the systems with Homebrews which is delightful
I never knew the Amiga CD 32 was so rare! A friend up the road had one and some really good games on it too - guess I was very lucky to ever play on one 😀
If it was the UK then they weren't rare. Biggest selling console of Xmas 1993. Well advertised and smothered in games immediately after release.
Anywhere else in the world - especially outside Europe, and yeah, you were pretty lucky to ever see one for real, or even to know of their existence!
They don't come up that often and usually pretty expensive, especially if you need to replace stuff like controllers etc
Greetings from Poland. Amiga CD32 will have a place in my heart. I bought my device right after A500+. I remember playing Oscar / Diggers, Furry of the Furries, Ufo Enemy Unknown, Whale's Voyage. I even had SX extention, floppy, keyboard, additional memory, HDD. It was very cool and underappriciated device.
I have a CD32 - love it - upgraded it with a terrible fire 030 ! runs EVERYTHING including Doom! cool! :)
Finally a lucid, informative piece about CD32 to tidy up the mess AVGN did with his half-ass video. Seriously, how can one judge a system by playing a bunch of games found in a skip?? It’s like saying NES was a piece of kaka after playing LJN games only. Unfortunately what he says is considered revealed truth by many. Your video may be enlightening for some of them. Thanks for that!
“Who do you think I am? Modern Vintage Gamer?” ☠️🤣
Shots fired!
Great content as usual 👌👌
I still got my Amiga 600 and it runs just fine =) Shocks me that I played SNES games on it with higher quallity while I also had a SNES back when I was 3-4 years old.
the PSU somehow quit working so I connected a old psu to it ^,^
I really enjoyed this video Lady Decade. I've seen a lot of people do a CD32 video and I love that you've put your own spin on the story and I've learned things that I had not known from the content provided by your esteemed UA-cam colleagues. 20/10, will watch again! :)
This video was worth just hearing Lady Decade say, "Atari Jag-u-ar". Priceless! I as an American actually use that pronunciation because Jag-war just sounds weird now. Thank you!
As a kid I use to read many Game magazines and reading about the Amiga of income to USA but never came here. Have a good day Lady Decade.
In 1995 I got my first job and was provided with a Windows 95 “workstation.”
Then Sony came out of nowhere with the all-3D console “playstation,” combined with CD player.
As far as I was concerned, Commodore and Atari were completely obsolete by this point. I slightly regret not shopping around for a CBM Pet in this time period, but on the whole I’m glad I was never burdened with one.
Legend is, there is an Amiga CD32 buried inside the attic of my parents house. One that I shelved back in the late 90s. My favorite games I enjoyed on it were Diggers, Microcosm, Pirates Gold or Labyrinth of Time.
Yeah is had many great games, i know because i have 43 original Amiga CD32 games, and i still play them with my nephews.
And i also have Diggers, and Microcosm, and The Labyrinth of Time.
I'm loving the background music at the beginning
Loved mine with the SX-1 and a whopping 8mb RAM 😱😱😱
I would love to get my hands on a CD32. It's such a beautiful system. And the rumoured CD64 and the Hombre chipset are such interesting what-if scenarios. Anyway...
And wow, that classes for the masses bit... Birmingham! :D Yes, I giggled a lot at that. :D
Still have mine with it fmv cart, games are still coming out like power glove.
Also road avenger and time gal, plus a disc with loads of a500 games on it.
Cringe-worthingly excellent! Your wit is so bad it's amazing. First Vid of yours I've watched. You've got a new Sub for sure. Great history lesson of Commodore by the way. I never knew anything about their later issues that would ultimately bring about their demise!
" who do you think i am , Modern Vintage Gamer " LOL Shots been thrown
I bought CD32 at launch and later Elsat Promodule add-on always loved it.
Brilliant Vid genuinely funny and informative. The research you pour into content just shines out in and is reflected in the sterling quality of your work. just remember don't copy that floppy :-))
Ahh, I still have my old Amiga CD32 system along with my Amiga 500, 600 and 1200. All still in working order.
When you waited CD32 for along time but when it arrived and delivered nothing new. A1200 without keyboard. Lovely.
I had one back in the day. Diggers, bump and burn, labyrinth of time, Oscar. Good Times. I wish I still had it
Love my CD32. Please do the FM Towns Marty/2. They're a lot of fun! It'd be also fun to see how well you deal/dodge the issue of 50% of the titles being pr0n... (Japan!) but there's some amazing games and conversions.