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Comparing Michael Harding White Oil Colours with Vicki Norman
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2018
- Please note: Michael Harding Paints have removed Zinc white pigment from all their paints since this viedo was made.
British Plein air artist and tutor Vicki Norman experiments with Michael Harding's white oil colours.
Vicki can be found here:
www.vickinorman...
And Michael Harding's website can be found here:
www.michaelhard...
All the colours in this demonstration are Michael Harding oils and you can see them here:
Titanium White (No 1) -- www.michaelhar...
Zinc White -- www.michaelhar...
Foundation White -- www.michaelhar...
Cremnitz White (No 2) -- www.michaelhar...
Warm White (lead white alternative) -- www.michaelhar...
Cadmium Red Light -- www.michaelhar...
Ultramarine Blue -- www.michaelhar...
Genuine Naples Yellow Dark -- www.michaelhar...
Keep an eye out for more experiments with Michael Harding's other colours including Italian Green Umber, Quinacridone rose, Cobalt Teal, Comparing Browns, Lead tin yellow light, Lead tin Yellow Lemon, Amethyst, Deep Purple, Warm light yellow, Warm white and more...
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Watching you mix for swatches is an artist dream. So satisfying. 😅 🤓👍❤️
Every time she gets to the lead white I feel like a kid at Christmas
Excellent comparison. Thank you!
Interesting how the blue samples came out pretty much the same, contrast that with the yellow and red samples. Aside from Titanium White, I'd try Zinc White and Cremnitz White.
Zinc White is infamous among conservators for being generally terrible in an oil film. It doesn't bind well and can cause layers to delaminate over time. Lead is bar-none the best structurally, but Titanium white is okay too.
Thank Youu Sooooooooo Much For wasting your paint so i dont have to waste mine
Thank you very much; I can clearly see differences.
Thanks as always. Really enjoy your videos. Love MH paints. Hope when all this brexit stuff is done we can once again buy lead white in UK. Would love to try mh flake white. Xx g
Glenn Williams thank you, it is a shame we can’t buy the lead whites in the UK
@vermilion J hi and thanks for the message. Do you know where I could buy the pigment either from in the UK or somewhere that will ship to UK? Just as a side question, I'm also looking to buy some vermilion pigment and have been looking for a recommendation from someone who has already got some and knows what the quality is like from where they purchased it. Thanks again and hope we can talk again. G
@vermilion J Check out www.artreq.co.uk. They have the lowest price that I have found for MH paint, if you order over £100 shipping is free, I don't think they offer international shipping though, so you have to live within the UK.
@vermilion J I forgot to mention that. www.atlantisart.co.uk sell the MH Stack Lead, the price of it will blow your socks off though!, you can get Rublev Flake White from www.supremepaint.co.uk
great video - that was interesting - love paint comparisons like this!
Very nice. Thank you for your time
How does one dispose of lead white and vermillion empty tubes without polluting the environment?
Check if you have a hazardous materials collection center in your metropolitan area.
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Very useful information.
Which Cremnitz and Titanium whites did you use, No. 1or No. 2?
I think I might try Foundation white as it's slightly warmer than Titanium and doesn't have the high tinting strength. Best of both Worlds.
2 and 4 are the warmest. 4 is almost peanut buttery! I like 2 and 4 again w the cadomin red 2 and 4 again w the blue! What is it w these two whites? Kremlitz white nu ber 4? 2 is zinc?
Vicki, what palette knife are you using for mixing? I would love to purchase one with a blunt tip like that one in particular. I have been searching the internet for one just like that but I can’t find it. Please let me know.
I have just recently started using some tubes of Michael Harding and I like the consistency and “buttery” feel. I plan on buying more. Thanks for the video.
I am two years late but I have this, rgm 81
What are the differences between cremnitz white number 2 and number 1? In which way does the different oils in both effect? Thanks a lot!
Im sorta confused of the love for lead white, i get just as good results with titanium zinc white? Of which effect brittling effect seems to only show on thick applications and the yellowing doesnt happen on zinc white...
Good job as always.
A T thank you
I don't think there's Zinc white in the Warm White. It's Titanium and Yellow Oxide PW6 & Py42 according to the website
It is now; it might have been Zinc when this was first filmed.
Good video, thanks for sharing. I usually use Titanium
Roger Lex thanks
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I watch your videos salivating over these high end paints! Those student daler rowney paints don't cut it anymore. If you ever want to get rid of those half used tubes 😉
I am on a budget too, but I've heard the most important "color" to get high end brands is your WHITE. If you have the right white your other colors can be less expensive brands. I have the MH titanium and I dont love it. It's making my colors chalky.. I want to try the lead white. And of course you just have to make sure you dont eat it or keep it on your skin.
@@PrincessAloeVera hello, thanks for your comments this evening. Because MH paints are made with pure pigment, they can seem to overpower other paints which contain a lower proportion of pigment in their tubes. So the quantity of MH white you require to lighten a mixture may be less than you are used to. This would account for the 'chalky' issue you are having.
@@VickiNorman Thank you for your reply and advice. I am a bit overwhelmed by all the color choices with MH brand. I bought the introductory set with 6 tubes and I like it but the yellow and red are both warm yellow and warm red. I did find that the burnt umber and the red make a great burnt sienna and the burnt umber and the ultramarine are really nice deep dark bases for making different "blacks". I do want to try painting with only those colors for a while tho, since my assumption is that these particular tubes work well with each other and create good color harmony as a limited palette. Is there a demo with this set anywhere? I haven't seen one yet but it would be helpful and interesting. Thanks. ps this is my first experience with oils, this starter set. I've mostly primary colors in watercolor and messed around with acrylics some. Do you have any suggestions for a good medium to use for those who are sensitive to solvents? I'm not sure I can stay with oils but I sure would like to.
@@PrincessAloeVera I don't agree with the importance of good white paint. In fact, Titanium Dioxide is one of the cheapest pigments (even used in toothpaste) and even student grade whites can be quite heavily pigmented (Van Gogh brand is a good example). I'd rather have a genuine cad yellow than a expensive tube of white to get the most out of my money. I've once seen a video claiming a professionnal grade white would automatically improve the quality of all mixes... Which is just not the case.
Try out Gamblins Solvent Free Gel! This should fit your needs.
I live these videos and your narration. How about comparing blacks?
The amount of yellow wasn’t consistent. You added little to the first white and much more to the second white…. You even add more color ie red to fourth white. Hardly a good comparison. The value of the blue in first color was way too much more than the amount of yellow. You’re actually mixing the hues into white to get a value you want, rather than what the whites will produce. Sorry, no so useful…….more of a random sample rather than a performance sample.
I thought the same. The demo would be more convincing if she used a more precise measurement strategy. Even a ml or a drop of colour paint changes the final value of the white mix.
Fortunately, like other color houses, MH is phasing out the zinc component in their titanium whites (I'm assuming they will keep pure zinc white for those who like to live dangerously) although pure titanium is of course far from an ideal alternative.
What is the name of the oil colors used; Thanks..
Yousef Jihad Abbas the colours are listed in the description with links to MH website where you can find information about each pigment.
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There is no one word about zinc white in the warm white (No. 137) on the MH website (?!).
Zinc white has been removed from all MH paints since this video was made
@@VickiNorman👍👍
i really want to try lead white but i dont wanna die
You will die eventually - hate to be the one to break this to you.... (that reads as being rather nasty, but I say it with a merry twinkle!). Lead white is not to be trifled with, but if used properly is not dangerous: don't eat while painting with it, don't get it into open cuts, and if you sand it (preferably don't) always wear an effective mask.
What is the point of a white test if you go to different values with every mix? Useless
@TheStokeoner Thank you, for that. I thought it was just me when I saw all the wonderful comments while I'm thinking that I can't remember the last time I saw someone in a "professional" capacity exhibiting so little control over their color mixing abilities.
Watching the process is instructive - it shows what different whites will do; I agree that just showing the still images against each other isn't helpful, given the amount of added colour is arbitrary.
Can't get lead white anymore due too the stupid H&S EU regs not recognizing the tiny amount used by artists and allowing for it. Zinc white delaminates over time (I've seen it happen), so that leaves Titanium really doesn't it, so in terms of what is credibly available to the serious archival painter then this demonstration is somewhat pointless.. You should have stated categorically that MH stockists do not sell lead white to anyone in the UK excet certified restorers.
Make your own.easy.sugar yeast vinegar.you get tons.
@@99thehighstreet69 Tons of cancer, heh...
Yeah, I couldn't order Natural Pigments lead white from Germany without submitting all sorts of certificates blah blah, but fortunately I can still get Old Holland flake white (without the zinc) in the Netherlands (only linseed based though)...
Lytton333 you can get MH Cremnitz White from artdiscount or you can get Rublev lead white from supremepaint you can even get Williamsburg Flake White from the SAA now.
You can get MH Cremnitz White from 'ARTDISCOUNT'.....you can get Rublev Lead White from 'SUPREMEPAINT'....you can also order Flake White from 'VASARI' (I literally just had a tube of it delivered to me today!)... I am in the UK and I am not a certified art restorer.....you CAN get it.....one word BREXIT......most EU regs don't apply to the UK anymore.
A terrible comparison. She should have pre- measured the same amount of each of the whites and exactly the same amounts of each of the colors so we could see the difference in tinting strength and mass tone in mixes with these whites. She kept on dipping back into the tinting color to prove her preconceived notions of tone and strength of each of the whites, thereby making the comparisons nonsense. How hard would it have been to squeeze a similar-sized blob of each of the whites out on the palette, and then squeeze smaller-but-similar-sized blobs of the yellow 5 times. Do the mixes. Stop filming, clean the palette and begin again with the next color. If you're an Ambassador for MH paints, they'll give you as much paint as you want for an educational video about their product. You just wasted an opportunity to inform because you didn't do any planning.
Pray tell us all your methodology for getting the exact same amounts of paint measured out…😅😅😅
@@DependsWhatDay How hard is it to get a set of measuring spoons for cooking (get the ones with the rounded bottoms) and use the smallest (1/4 teaspoon) and level off the paint in the spoon. (I'm sure you can figure out how to get the paint out of the measuring spoon with a rounded tip palette knife.) It's like cooking. Would that really be so difficult?
Clearly you have too much time on your hands. Getting the paint in the spoons wouldn't be so difficult but getting out in equal measure .... find something significant and meaningful to complain about.
Here's an even better idea. How about you make a video and post it to show us all the "proper' way.
no zinc 4 me
Stay away from Zinc in oil paints.
Why Zarah?
@@Kayem967 zinc white (zw) (PW4 on labels) is brittle when dry. Many artists in the early 1800's started using it as their primary white. Blue with zw for their sky, for example, and on canvas zw will easily crack unlike lead..even when dry lead white oil paint is still flexible. Zw is a cool white. I'm not into shifting from one white to another. I stick with one white and have learned to cool or warm up my white as needed. If you apply zinc white to a firm support like wood or a canvas panel then you may never need to worry about it. Even your titanium white and or lead white may be mixed with zw so be careful and read the label on your white. Zw pigment is fairly cheap and will often be used like a filler in other white paints or colors...to keep the price point down. Go to natural pigments website for more info.
We have removed all zinc oxide-based pigments from our range although old supplies might still be out there.
@@MHPaints Please, what can you say about paint PHTHALO BLUE & ZINC? Why did you call it that? There is no PW4 in it. Thank you!
@@user-sx4eg3fh9j Hi, it is now Phthalocyanine Blue & Titanium White - PB 15.3 & PW 6 - It did once contain zinc but has been reformulated. More info: www.michaelharding.co.uk/colour/phthalocyanine-blue-zinc-white/