Aren't you the guy that sold a ton of your Evolving Skies Eevee premium collection 6 months ago? I think even the top comment at the time said that was a mistake.
The 151 etb is expensive because they did not reprint it like the other 151 products. Notice how the price per pack is way higher than the other 151 products? Its because people want the ETB itself, not for the pack value. People now collect sealed etbs, and that is whats to blame for the price.
151 bro it’s still in print bro it’s 1 year old… but lemme guess you think the set from 2 weeks ago is not in print anymore “like bro the print is over bro no more prints prismatic”
You have to wait 1 year to accurately see Prismatic evolutions set value. There is still so many other products to be released with prismatic. They also have masterballs which is a huge advantage for Prismatic. 151 will be a set everyone goes back to for the next 10-20 years and I can say that confidentially. Prismatic evolutions will do the same lol but I think more people will go back to 151 than Prismatic but we will see. Both sets are goated but rn I would focus on trying to get both sets for msrp if you can
Not really. You fail to mention you need to buy $20,000 worth of etbs for the odds of hitting the umbreon I promise you $20k worth of 151 boxes will yield you more value and a much better experience opening
@@eliashabash7591 People don't always think about that though. I bet Paldea Evolved is more fun to open with a better EV than Evolving Skies but people still love to gamble on the latter. This hobby is full of gambling addicts chasing that one big hit.
It’s really going to come down to reprint numbers, if they print a wave 2 with a large scale, and print 3 and 4 it might drop and possibly stabilize at between $70/$80. If they print enough to meet demand and there’s no flipping equity THATS when it will collapse to msrp or lower. It all comes down to reprint. It’s anyone’s guess at this point.
10000% yes. On release 151 PC ETBs were going for what regular PRE ETBs were going for. Depending on the size of the reprint PRE could surpass 151 in the same amount of time 151 has been available or it'll get passed quicker. Either way, both of these sets will be regarded as the top 2 SV sets. Rocket and the black & white sets could make for a very solid, goated top 4 sets.
There's no way in hell there's less 151 to go around in general not including 151 PC etb. Prismatic PCETB haven't even been restocked yet. This is all fomo what's wrong with you guys it's like you forgot how cycles work.
I love the title of this video. This is a great discussion. I think they both are going to be really good long term, and you can't go wrong buying these at MSRP. However, I don't know how much 151 we can buy at MSRP in the future. Prismatic Evolutions on the other hand will have plenty of opportunities for us to buy at MSRP in the future. I will take either set at MSRP. Personally, I have been selling my entire collection and saving up cash and will be dumping every cent into Prismatic Evolutions at MSRP.
Might as well get the PSA and sit on that there's no way prismatic outdos 151 after this reprint even in the long run. Prismatic is just shitty evolving skies. 151 is modern classic to a lot of people. Too much nostalgia there was less demand at the time compared to now and so there was also way less supply. You guys are crazy for thinking wallpaper Eevee is gonna overtake a gen 1 illustration set.
There's no way in hell PE outdoes gen 1 pokemon rofl. You can still catch gen 1 pokemon in recent pokemon games for a reason, cause everyone loves them...
@@KlausCarnalitoI do agree that the nostalgia of 151 will help the set do well over time, but do not underestimate the power of the eeveelutions and the possibility of god packs as well as master ball cards. Prismatic will for sure outdo 151 in the long run.
@KlausCarnalito prismatic Pc etb is gonna blow 151 Pc etb away. It's already almost $300. You really think a reprint is gonna make it go any where near $200 ? Not a chance. I've been in the market since 2017 so I got a veteran opinion and can say that the Eevee promo alone is gonna out price the Snorlax. The card is too cute and highly in demand especially with previous Pc promos to set the standard on exclusivity and price. I got these cards in hand in Japanese and can say for a fact they're not garbage. The art pops so well, especially the Umbreon. The color scheme is so vibrant with proper lighting. Can't tell me otherwise. Same reason I bought van Gogh Pikachu when it was around $100 and now I'm sitting on 10 total. Everybody was yelling reprint, reprint, reprint until the market picks up. I don't listen to outside opinions anymore, I just study the market for 8 years.
@KlausCarnalito if that was the case why isn't evolutions more than evolving skies ? Where's the nostalgia for a base set reprint ? Nostalgia doesn't matter in the current state of pokemon. That's why modern is doing way better than vintage recently.
You might want to make a follow up video on shrouded fable. Booster bundles are selling out and people are FOMO the Poke center etbs. Singles are going up as well especially the IR !
@@leonardoliver3067 I would say in the context of other available sets, it’s still the worst investment It’s a good investment objectively and I love the Persian, but it’s not like it’s on the level of 151/prismatic which you can still get at msrp during restocks
i think its a bit early to declar the card of the era rn considering many other sets are coming and the possibility of mega evolution coming to the tgc i do agree with the umbreon hype and its warranted but however remember charizard? now it seems like umbreon is going through that same phase but however this time its different
Charizard was printed so much the last two eras that he became saturated. He is not the chase he once was, plus the younger generation is more into other Pokemon like Greninja, Gengar or Umbreon.
@@bern717moonbreon was but giratina is a strong contender plus the set is over we already know everything left. This year sunbreon has to go against whatever chase Team rocket has, whatever Black/White has and whatever Mega Has not to mention whatever 30th Anniversary does. It doesn't make sense personally sunbreon isn't even that good prismatic was a bit lazy and the art doesn't even beat Twilight. It's not beating 151 or Surging right now.
Once everything settles prismatic will be above evolving skies. Higher set value - EVO is 4500$, prismatic is 10g but will prob drop to 6g, higher top 10 cards, higher # of cards over 100,200, etc.. EVO ETB is 8 packs, Prismatic is 9packs + promo card. EVO ETB is 10 packs at 450$, Prismatic is 11 packs + promo card+ stamped promo card. The writing is on the wall for those who see it. I like 151 more than both PE and EVO. 151 will be higher in 10 years and continue to slowly grow where PE will flatten I think.
I like Terastal and Prismatic, but even I can call it hype price. It's overpriced for a modern set. Call it for what it is. It's a matter of time Nintendo Will pull the rug. they even say it by name.
Highest value of the cards matters in some way, but, I am pulling 50-100$ cards more often in 151, than in prismatic. Plus, it's being printed to death and it is still going up in value. I think once it is done and over with, it'll have the same effect that Crown Zenith is going through.
@@readytodie116 agree paldean and paradox or slept on. That Groudon is going to be the same as karp. Probably not as well paldea evolved but at its current price it's an amazing vehicle to reinvest later in. Think about it this way. You buy 1000$ of paradox and goes up to 1800$ you can now get a decent amount of Team Rocket even if you have to buy scalper/inflated prices
Aren't you the guy that sold a ton of your Evolving Skies Eevee premium collection 6 months ago? I think even the top comment at the time said that was a mistake.
Wow is this UA-camr beef in real time I’m witnessing lol
get him unc !!!
He won't respond. He's high society. Too good for any comment unless it suits him. Bad at taking criticism, or just debating in general.
Can someone explain context?
@ some sort of pokemon hype investing drama probably
The 151 etb is expensive because they did not reprint it like the other 151 products. Notice how the price per pack is way higher than the other 151 products? Its because people want the ETB itself, not for the pack value. People now collect sealed etbs, and that is whats to blame for the price.
151 is better than PE imo
151 bro it’s still in print bro it’s 1 year old… but lemme guess you think the set from 2 weeks ago is not in print anymore “like bro the print is over bro no more prints prismatic”
Pull rates are way harder for prismatic and have more SIRs.
You have to wait 1 year to accurately see Prismatic evolutions set value. There is still so many other products to be released with prismatic. They also have masterballs which is a huge advantage for Prismatic. 151 will be a set everyone goes back to for the next 10-20 years and I can say that confidentially. Prismatic evolutions will do the same lol but I think more people will go back to 151 than Prismatic but we will see. Both sets are goated but rn I would focus on trying to get both sets for msrp if you can
whats he say at the end cause whatever that is im doing the opposite
prismatic is too young set to compare prices.
Got both in PC sealed :-)
Buy both for msrp and be happy! Look it all up in 3/4/5 years and see where they are at.
No 😂
Crown Zenith & 151 will be tho
Can’t compare with 151 imo. Prismatic has to many resellers, flippers, paperhands. 151 didn’t have that
I agree with you prismatic long term will outdo 151 no brainer. Lets see in 2 years.
2 things can be true at once, plenty of room for both sets to be premium investments.
guys look at the over valued cards! its infinitely better!
You forgot to mention that 151 total value of 1393.59 is less then the Umbreon which alone is valued at 1561.79
That is an insane stat.
Not really. You fail to mention you need to buy $20,000 worth of etbs for the odds of hitting the umbreon
I promise you $20k worth of 151 boxes will yield you more value and a much better experience opening
@@eliashabash7591 People don't always think about that though. I bet Paldea Evolved is more fun to open with a better EV than Evolving Skies but people still love to gamble on the latter. This hobby is full of gambling addicts chasing that one big hit.
Can’t the value of the 151 set go up even more especially when both sets are out of print?
Sounds like you have a personal stake in Prismatic Evolutions, other wise why make this video?
You think a guy with 4k subs is manipulating the market with his opinion? He had a rational opinion and I’ve seen tens of 151 vs PE videos.
To be fair he's got a stake in both. He's shown his 151 stash before.
You might be right. But I’ll always rather have a closet full of sealed 151 over Prismatic.
It’s really going to come down to reprint numbers, if they print a wave 2 with a large scale, and print 3 and 4 it might drop and possibly stabilize at between $70/$80. If they print enough to meet demand and there’s no flipping equity THATS when it will collapse to msrp or lower.
It all comes down to reprint. It’s anyone’s guess at this point.
10000% yes. On release 151 PC ETBs were going for what regular PRE ETBs were going for. Depending on the size of the reprint PRE could surpass 151 in the same amount of time 151 has been available or it'll get passed quicker.
Either way, both of these sets will be regarded as the top 2 SV sets. Rocket and the black & white sets could make for a very solid, goated top 4 sets.
Don’t forget Journey Together which everyone is saying “wELL iT’s aCtuaLLy a gREat sEt tOO” 😂😂
There's no way in hell there's less 151 to go around in general not including 151 PC etb. Prismatic PCETB haven't even been restocked yet. This is all fomo what's wrong with you guys it's like you forgot how cycles work.
Don't forget the last set of S&V.....Pokemon GO 2 😛
I’m buying both, which will be LT amazing investments.
The real winners are Crown Zenith gang rise up
People rather want to open 151 then prismatic 😅
Delusional
I love the title of this video. This is a great discussion. I think they both are going to be really good long term, and you can't go wrong buying these at MSRP. However, I don't know how much 151 we can buy at MSRP in the future. Prismatic Evolutions on the other hand will have plenty of opportunities for us to buy at MSRP in the future. I will take either set at MSRP. Personally, I have been selling my entire collection and saving up cash and will be dumping every cent into Prismatic Evolutions at MSRP.
What website is this?
PC ETB is gonna be way more. That eevee promo is gonna go crazy in PSA 10.. just got on market
Might as well get the PSA and sit on that there's no way prismatic outdos 151 after this reprint even in the long run. Prismatic is just shitty evolving skies. 151 is modern classic to a lot of people. Too much nostalgia there was less demand at the time compared to now and so there was also way less supply. You guys are crazy for thinking wallpaper Eevee is gonna overtake a gen 1 illustration set.
There's no way in hell PE outdoes gen 1 pokemon rofl. You can still catch gen 1 pokemon in recent pokemon games for a reason, cause everyone loves them...
@@KlausCarnalitoI do agree that the nostalgia of 151 will help the set do well over time, but do not underestimate the power of the eeveelutions and the possibility of god packs as well as master ball cards. Prismatic will for sure outdo 151 in the long run.
@KlausCarnalito prismatic Pc etb is gonna blow 151 Pc etb away. It's already almost $300. You really think a reprint is gonna make it go any where near $200 ? Not a chance.
I've been in the market since 2017 so I got a veteran opinion and can say that the Eevee promo alone is gonna out price the Snorlax. The card is too cute and highly in demand especially with previous Pc promos to set the standard on exclusivity and price.
I got these cards in hand in Japanese and can say for a fact they're not garbage. The art pops so well, especially the Umbreon. The color scheme is so vibrant with proper lighting. Can't tell me otherwise.
Same reason I bought van Gogh Pikachu when it was around $100 and now I'm sitting on 10 total. Everybody was yelling reprint, reprint, reprint until the market picks up. I don't listen to outside opinions anymore, I just study the market for 8 years.
@KlausCarnalito if that was the case why isn't evolutions more than evolving skies ? Where's the nostalgia for a base set reprint ? Nostalgia doesn't matter in the current state of pokemon. That's why modern is doing way better than vintage recently.
I found surging sparks with promo packs for 6 dollars today. I found a stack of them
Give prismatic some time to grow
You might want to make a follow up video on shrouded fable. Booster bundles are selling out and people are FOMO the Poke center etbs. Singles are going up as well especially the IR !
@@leonardoliver3067 I would say in the context of other available sets, it’s still the worst investment
It’s a good investment objectively and I love the Persian, but it’s not like it’s on the level of 151/prismatic which you can still get at msrp during restocks
Shrouded Fable is getting pumped and dumped right before our eyes. Don’t be fooled😅
The competition for some people is in pull rates...
They are both S tier. Thats all that matters.
Finally someone said it. Both are S Tier sets.
GUYS!
i think its a bit early to declar the card of the era rn considering many other sets are coming and the possibility of mega evolution coming to the tgc i do agree with the umbreon hype and its warranted but however remember charizard? now it seems like umbreon is going through that same phase but however this time its different
Best card this era is Bubble Mew by a long shot.
@@readytodie116 im not a fan of the bubble mew tbh its too basic
Are you referring to the Rainbow Charizard? I feel that’s dated now and didn’t age well. Moonbreon and PrE Umbreon are classics already IMO
Charizard was printed so much the last two eras that he became saturated. He is not the chase he once was, plus the younger generation is more into other Pokemon like Greninja, Gengar or Umbreon.
@@bern717moonbreon was but giratina is a strong contender plus the set is over we already know everything left. This year sunbreon has to go against whatever chase Team rocket has, whatever Black/White has and whatever Mega Has not to mention whatever 30th Anniversary does. It doesn't make sense personally sunbreon isn't even that good prismatic was a bit lazy and the art doesn't even beat Twilight. It's not beating 151 or Surging right now.
Once everything settles prismatic will be above evolving skies. Higher set value - EVO is 4500$, prismatic is 10g but will prob drop to 6g, higher top 10 cards, higher # of cards over 100,200, etc.. EVO ETB is 8 packs, Prismatic is 9packs + promo card. EVO ETB is 10 packs at 450$, Prismatic is 11 packs + promo card+ stamped promo card. The writing is on the wall for those who see it.
I like 151 more than both PE and EVO. 151 will be higher in 10 years and continue to slowly grow where PE will flatten I think.
Cus 151 has better pull rates
I like Terastal and Prismatic, but even I can call it hype price. It's overpriced for a modern set. Call it for what it is. It's a matter of time Nintendo Will pull the rug. they even say it by name.
Highest value of the cards matters in some way, but, I am pulling 50-100$ cards more often in 151, than in prismatic. Plus, it's being printed to death and it is still going up in value. I think once it is done and over with, it'll have the same effect that Crown Zenith is going through.
Vapor
Prismatic is a rebuy at this point ! i know i need to Buy the ones i sold too the people that couldnt get a piece. :) great set ! Cheap
You’re 100% right.. it’s just the facts 👍
Its a shame PE didnt have pull rates like 151. May have been the best set of all time.
151 is so fun to rip!!
The cards wouldn’t be as expensive if the pull rates were easy
Two best sets recently. So many hits in Prismatic but I will always go with the original pokemon. Paldean fates is the most slept on set.
@@readytodie116 agree paldean and paradox or slept on. That Groudon is going to be the same as karp. Probably not as well paldea evolved but at its current price it's an amazing vehicle to reinvest later in. Think about it this way. You buy 1000$ of paradox and goes up to 1800$ you can now get a decent amount of Team Rocket even if you have to buy scalper/inflated prices