Pax Dei MMO Is Looking INCREDIBLY Good! - Alpha Playtest
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- So I was invited to play Pax Dei in its early alpha playtest and let me just say, its looking very good. The gameplay, the graphics and the systems in place appear to be a firm foundation for the game to launch!
0:00 What is Pax Dei?
0:28 Braving The Wilds
4:59 Setting Up Camp
10:53 Crafting The Future
14:16 First Impressions
17:29 Dune MMO Information?
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Me and a friend spent 6 hours the first day playing. Uninstalled after spending five hours gathering resources only to find out we'd need about 3000 more resources to make a single basic armor piece, and several hours of smelting/skinning. Glad at least some people enjoy it, but it's unlikely any of my play group will be buying it. There are more interesting gathering simulators on the market these days
Only similar one I've played that's a survival game is Valheim. What are other good ones in this genre?
@@bl8388 Enshrouded, Palworld, V Rising, Minecraft, Rust, Don't Starve (1 and 2,) Terraria, Necesse. To name a few. Not all of them have the same aesthetic as Valheim but the general premise and mechanics are the same and they are all objectively better than whatever this is supposed to be. As a side note, the only one I'm looking forward to that might actually be on-par with the best of the best is Light No Fire.
Just FYI, Pax Dei (Peace of God) is pronounced Pax day-ih, not "die"
The game is very pretty. Wonder what they'll do different from other similar games.
Actually thank you, I was unsure of how to say it and I tried recording 3 different ways lol
Further the word Deus is latin and Dei is the genetive case of it indicating attributive relationship (8 years of latin in school :D)
According to developer website: around 30 million € of funding, developed by over 75 employees across 3 countries (company located in Helsinki, Reykjavík and Paris) since 2019. Developers (as they say "veterans") from such studios like Blizzard, Ubisoft, Next Games, CCP.
This is what they develop for 30 million euro with 75+ employees in 4 years. I've seen better from smaller teams with less funding.
Not to mention that they say on their website that Pax Dei is not a survival game because it doesn't have a hunger mechanic.. While having literally every other aspect of a survival game. It has buff system like Valheim (a survival game). it has resource gathering, crafting, building like a standard survival games. It has no aspects of MMORPG besides being online. Not much of RPG and MMO is probably just some mega server divided into smaller channels with 100 players or so. So.. like ARK or Conan Exiles.
Not every survival game has a hunger and thirst mechanics. And even when they have it, it is usually secondary.
You are telling me 75 employees with 30 mil euro can't even define and assign a proper genre of the game they are making?
it is a survival game/MMO hybrid. the survival game experience replaces the typical MMO fetch quest grind of "go here, kill this, grab this" and instead introduces community building and crafting. Then late game its the typical MMO gameplay loop: adventure, dungeons, large scale PvP, economy, ect.
I actually find the survival game aspect more engaging and enjoyable than a fetch quest system or some boring half baked story where you are the 'chosen one' like in other traditonal MMOs. Each server holds 7k players. its an MMO with survival crafting as its early game.
Look at "Soulmask" They have a very small team and are roughly in the same stage of development as this dog water game and Soulmask is so much more polished than this over hyped turd of a game.
"I've seen better from smaller teams with less funding."
Just because some company pay their developers slave wages or in IOUs doesn't mean all companies should do that. Average monthly salary of a game dev in Paris is €3,600, in Finland €3,600, in Iceland 575,000 ISK (€ 3,800) so let's meet in the middle at €3,700 and do some basic math:
- 3,700 * 12 months = 44,400 a year * 75 people = 3,330,000 * 4 years = €13,320,000
Just like that nearly half of the funding is gone paying the developers to make the game and this is in a imaginary world where every developer is paid the same average wage and doesn't include licenses for programs like Maya or Perforce, doesn't include the cost of PCs, physical testing servers, marketing (they had vids at the Game Awards, IGN vids, etc.)
€30M for a mmo is nothing.
@@Athasin but it still does not account for this toilet water of a game. Look at all the dev videos where they hype up the game and compare that to the reality of the game? It is a gross misrepresentation of their product by intent.
@@henryramos4185 You would have a point IF this was the finished product but it's not. It's an alpha test, not a beta, not early access, an alpha, the bottom of the barrel when it comes to game development.
He took a shortcut! LOL!! I love the bare feet slapping sound. Hope you play more of this!
That Bear and I had to throw hands... lol I want to put a little bit more into this to see what else it has to offer!
I personally love survival & it bums me out that it doesn't have survival aspects like managing your food & thirst because then that removes RP quality when there is no reason to hunt, forge, farm crops, gather herbs, gather food, fish, cook or husbandry.
It takes away from people being able to make taverns or food markets to sell a variety of food, ingredients, even meals or beverages that would be a great social place too since this game is a player ran economy - well eventually people wont need to buy anything else from people with how the game currently is but if food & thirst was a thing that is stuff people will continuously need who may not have the time to cook for themselves, may need to learn recipes, may need an emergency meal/beverage they could buy & gives something for people to do.
They should add more skills like metal working to help reduce production time.. as it stands this game has grind that makes life is feudal look easy
Considering it's an mmo with no intention for wife, I kinda understand why it's a grind. Any easier and their entire game design falls apart.
The bear!
I'm really liking how nowadays, even smaller projects are creating these stunning landscapes. We've come a long way from Daggerfall.
The bear was an absolute unit of terror. As an alpha I'd say it's in pretty good shape. I'd be interested to see what it can do moving forward
craft fails are a dumb idea.. imagine gathering for hours for it to fail like a gambling sim
I'd be supppper missed if that happened. Perhaps make the rare Ingridents 100% pass chance?
Ultima online had that. You try to upgrade and have a chance to break the item you're trying to upgrade. Then they made craftable gear suck and only artifact drops were worth having. I'm not a fan of that kind of craft fail.
What wasn't obvious from the video is that the craft can only fail if you are too low level to craft it and you are risking failure. If you are at the level or above it will always succeed. They do need to do some rebalancing around this and some better XP system as at present it's zero XP if you fail and 100% if you success. It has been suggested that the progress of the bar should be the XP you get so even a fail rewards some limited XP.
Having a chance to fail when you can see how likely you are to succeed is reasonable. It is then up to the player do they go for the safe option or risk losing materials if they fail. Note that you do get back most materials if you fail. So it would be possible that rare ingredients would be 100% get back if you fail and everything else was partial.
This though is a core mechanic of the game you level crafting and can only succeed with some things if you are high enough level. They have indicated they plan on adding bonuses if you are higher level - eg: extra stats on gear, or increased chance of creating epic/ledgendary items the more skilled you are. Early alpha though with some core systems not implemented at all (player stores/trading) and some only fairly basic placeholders (combat).
The only thing this game has is its beauty, Pvp is nonexistent, the crafting system is a lesson in masochism (6 hours for an over 20 man Clan to make one), resources are scarce and the combat system has less to offer than Roblox. I understand it is Alpha, and I am currently testing another game also in Alpha and the two games are so far apart that PAX Dei looks like a concept still. Think Valheim and Life is Feudal has a very very very very stunted love child with none of what the parents have to offer.
True I suppose because of my newness in this genre I am easily impressed. It felt more like a survival game then anything but still interesting
In real life a bear would do that :) i like how they make things kinda like that lol
True, I wasn't ready for the bear to scale a 90 degree cliff lol
The UI and a lot of elements of the game seem as if they came straight out of New World. Looks decent so far though.
I'm optimistic after this initial playthrough. It's going to be interesting to track as it moves forward
The food really helps with stam and health 1 apple 1 meat can make the difference in fight
Against the boars absolutely but man that hear took like 50% of my hp per hit!
@CaffeinatedDad D: I know I hope they find a balance cuz I understand having to be kitted out for dungeons and magic dudes and what's not but against a boar? I shouldn't be scared of a boar if I got level 5 polearm going on :)
I tried to play this game, but couldn’t find anything to interact with. May need to wait until it farther along
Yeah I think the bases persist regardless If your logged in. Maybe people left?
they want to go EA soon after this test.
Personally me and my 3 buds have been enjoying the experience, combat definitely needs some work and mobs are way over tuned. But all in all, bright future if they keep working hard at it. We enjoy a grindy experience, as playing OSRS for many years. Will say they definitely need to add a few ways to reduce craft time to support casual players alike. I believe this game has big potential to take over the genre and combine mmo and survival into one rust like experience. Will need to see how pvp zones are handled later on!
You are part of the friends and family group? It is the only way you can have this view. 6 hours for a 20 man to make 1 mace... 24 to 36 more hours to make metal armor. For an MMO it will be a bust and go the way of Life is Feudal.
@@henryramos4185 if that’s how you feel, then the game simply isn’t for you. It doesn’t appeal to a casual audience. I’ve given my view on the game after playing.
@@matthewlong3951 Simply by saying "It doesn’t appeal to a casual audience." does not bode well for this games future and basically predicts that this will in fact go the way of LiFMMO...
I wonder what's with the surge with survival games. Seems like there's been a lot lately. They feel kind of the same with just graphical differences. Hopefully someone stands out.
I don't get it too. Sure, have some like Enshrouded or even as different as Palworld is ok. But everyday, a Survival Game comes out. It's becoming too overwhelming to get into one
I think they are essentially hitting all of the "Search Terms" Like saying its an MMO and saying its survival and crafting. These seem really kinda filter hits imo.
It's not a survival game as you do not perish from lack of food and water....its: Pax Dei is a social sandbox and massively multiplayer online video game set in a fantasy medieval era. It will have a player driven economy where all items in the game world will be player crafted. Players will need to gather all the materials they need for crafting and will be able to craft weapons, armors and build their own homes.[1
@@DracurosuNot every survival game has hunger and thirst mechanisms. Pax dei literally has every aspect of a survival game and nothing from MMO, besides being online. Please get educated about survival genre.
@@vik8382nothing from an MMO? Is the server cap 10 people?
Oh look another unreal showcase
Ngl I laughed out loud at this! Unreal showcases everywhere!
this is just a survival game...
Yeah, I'm not sure why this was orginally marketed towards the MMORPG crowd when the first trailer dropped. Or maybe all the MMO news outlets just fundamentally misunderstood what this game was trying to be. So far it looks like a medieval RUST with a dedicated server that everyone plays on. MMO? Maybe, depends on how many players end up being able to play on the same shard/world/region simultaneously. RPG? Not seeing much in terms of your classic RPG formula. Also haven't seen much reason to group up or do multiplayer yet. Granted, it is early, but so far this alpha has all the trappings of all these dime a dozen survival games and nothing new in terms of an innovative social dynamic or a genuine gameplay hook that would get people excited. But then again, MMORPGs have been niche for a decade now and survival games are much more popular. So maybe that's the crowd the devs are going after, which is fair enough. But even then I'm not sure this is good enough yet to contend with the already established games in the genre.
@@donmarelio The website for Pax Dei actually calls it a "social MMORPG sandbox." holding 7 thousand players per shard(world, for now)The way that this game is different than rust and other similar titles is that there is no PvP where housing is. its designed to be community based, where the players are creating the worlds, and the economy, and the towns. There are dungeons and other areas with PvE mobs guarding treasures(both human inquisitors and creatures) but the game isn't going to have a giant arrow showing you where it is, or a duty finder where you can queue up with randoms. The only way to find it is by word of mouth, or adventuring with your friends.(or eventually a wiki because MMOs are dead lmao) There's also PvP specific zones that contain(what I can only assume) hidden dungeons/rare materials to encourage conflicts between the self made towns and communities.
Pax Dei is a combination of both survival game and MMO. The idea is that the early game experience is that of a survival game: where you spend most of your time gathering resources and building towns/communities. and then the late game is more traditional MMO: large scale PvP, trade runs, dungeons&exploration, and economy.
Pax Dei actually has the question answered in their FAQ:
IS PAX DEI A SURVIVAL GAME?
In short: No.
Its an MMO. its massively multiplayer
Question: Can many people be online at the same time?
Answer: Yes
Result: it’s an MMO.
Not a survival game, u don't die from lack of food or fluids....it's a : Pax Dei is a social sandbox and massively multiplayer online video game set in a fantasy medieval era. It will have a player driven economy where all items in the game world will be player crafted. Players will need to gather all the materials they need for crafting and will be able to craft weapons, armors and build their own homes.[1
Yeah so jumped on and in half an hour i couldnt find a single person to interact with or a point of interest. Came here to see if i was missing something but seems like everyone else is in the same boat
Not a whole heck of alot unless I tried talking in chat. Again still early
It’s in alpha
Do you get to live in a medieval society? Makes me want to make a bath house or a church or something and make money off of donations.
The idea it seems is that everyone comes together and builds a city center within their shared universe basically
It's pax "dayi" not pax die 🤦
It seems my pronunciation has you "dei"ing
Single world server? Or shitty rust like servers?
There are 3 eu na and Asia
As the comment said below only 3 servers for right now it seems
with none of the pvp content or combat mechanics.
This game is beyond horrible, lol. Terrible performance on a 4090 and it's just a survival game. I uninstalled the Alpha after like 30 minutes.
I can see that, I had a good time but I'm not personally super experienced with survival games so that's probably why it's super exciting to me
It isn't a survival game, it is just a crafting simulator.
my 3060 was running on 60 fps.
So what exactly is INCREDIBLE about it? Looks like just another survival game and it has 10 different types of wood? Honestly looks worse than most other
I suppose I thiught the graphics were very nice and I do like the in depth crafting seems fun but I also am less experienced with survival crafting so it's novel to me
@@CaffeinatedDadtry survival games. you will open a whole new world to yourself. there are very good quality and fun games that do this content actually good and not like this ...
it is, think Valheim with no weather effects and a 10th of the mob count and then crank up the time sinks to 2nd job night shift.
I played the Alpha and found it very boring with nothing new in it I just gave up in the end, same old same old.
This looks... very unfinished
well it IS an alpha, but having played it myself, the base game functions are so incredibly bland that I can't even push myself to log back in to start breaking and testing things. It's way too tedious
I mean it's only the second alpha I can't expect a super polished game
@@Aurakol. stop fanboying they are talking about Early access after this test for this floating turd of a game.
@@henryramos4185 did u even read my comment lol
@@Aurakol. sry my bad
this doesnt look very uh...enjoyable
who the hell cares about Dune... man this hurts my heart to see so much ressources put in a game no one will care about
The crafting / refinement system in this game is terrible and TIME HEAVY like I am talking an entire irl hour for 20 IRON BARS which takes 80 charcoal which also takes 20 minutes per 20 charcoal which necessitates the need for like 20 kilns and 10 furnaces running CONSTANTLY because you need thousands of bars for crafting, crafting is terrible due to the fact you gain no experience for failing a craft wasting your resources and your time. It took my 20 man group 30 hours of grinding for a single chainmail chest piece from day one. They drastically need to lower refinement time for everything because this is a full loot pvp game, noone is pvping right now because entire gear sets take like 8 hours to make IF you have the required levels for Weaponsmith / tailor / leatherworker / armor smith, its actually insane how bad it is. The game is very fun though but my guild agrees until they make some drastic changes we will not be touching this game, and a few others have also made the same conclusion.
The crafting 100% takes time because this is going sub based most likely, keeps you in the game to keep you paying the sub, its predatory and it needs to change. Im willing to pay a sub but the game needs to be good, its a full loot pvp game with PVE content sure but if I am constantly losing gear I aint spending 8 hours per gear set PER person.
Tiny sidenote: Combat is a terribly animation lock fest, they say its going to be changed before launch so heres hoping.
This game is 100% trash right now and if it goes into Early access the way it is, it will die a very fast death. Also, this isn't a survival game. There are no survival mechanics whatsoever. You don't need food or shelter to live. Mobs are overtuned. Trying to kill a boar is a lesson in, holy shit this boar almost killed me and all I got was... oh wait, I don't have space for this loot. Bears and wolves will kill you fast as shit. This is strictly a crafting simulator combined with a job simulator.
Boar are really easy to kill… just a pointy stick and shield that you can craft as soon as you join. You can easily take 3 boars with some food buffs from mushrooms and some simple fruits found in forests almost everywhere.
This game is too beautiful for some people to understand it. The social interaction aspects are clear and the play is awesome. From concept to design, graphics, it's all outstanding. We need some horses and then you'll see clans having cavalry charges in the pvp areas....
@@DracurosuI can’t wait to get some mounts! It’ll make gathering so much faster for me as a solo player.
@@Dracurosu Lol... it is a shit game and you won't be playing in 6 months after EA.
it has every aspect of a survival game besides hunger and thirst. So like Valheim... which is a survival game
Complete dogshit of a game, you can see why on my steam post title "why this game will fail and all games like it"
Well to give the game credit it is still very much in alpha so yes things need to be sorted out
Conan exiles like like Conan exiles like again and again, la boucle du survival game endless.....again again.