Rather than using 2 separate walls as the 'wall boards', you could use one wall with it's construction set to have a board either side of a cavity with 'air' material. Then, when drawing the timber frame curtain wall, it will automatically embed, to the cavity (providing you have sized them the same). Good content though! 👍🏻
Would you mind explaining it further? it sounds fantastic however the timber frame curtain wall will just take out the whole chunk from the board wall instead of embedding itself to the cavity. I'm not sure if it's actually possible...
Good tip, but not great for my current project where the "wall boards" only cover a part of the wood stud walls. However when I try to join the "wall boards" it doesn't cut out the door opening.
I'm currently learning Revit (coming from Autocad) from a paid for tutorial and it's been great but doesn't go into detail in certain areas. I stumbled across one of your videos and have subscribed since and just keep coming back. You have so many tutorials and they are concise and have great flow to them. I've been getting refreshers in other software apps like Reaper and Blender and there are many UA-camrs like yourself that help with great tutorials like yours Thanks for all your time and effort you put into these. It does not go unnoticed. Cheers sir.
As always - helpful and clear. The only issue I have found with this is that the spacing for the first stud needs to be measured from the outside edge not the centre.
Hello, When doing your drawings you will need to add a King stud, one that goes from the bottom plate to the top plate on either side of the header, connected to the header. That will be on either a window opening as well as a door opening
Brilliant idea but this will need extra work especially in the large projects, you need to draw 3 walls for each wall, hope Autodesk add built-in solution for framing like Chief architect software.
Nice idea mate! I tried this for smaller projects and exploded wall axos a while back and it worked well for basic nogging diagrams. I'm currently actually building a dynamo script to place 'bays' of framing as line based families using dynamo. Hopefully share to my channel in a few months... I'll mention this video though as a good method to keep it simple!
Did you complete this after Gavin? I’m toying with the idea of creating a warehouse of multiple wall types created…then grouped as assemblies for the benefit of elevating as a shop drawing, away from the model itself.
Hi Balkan Architect, thanks for the great tutorial! However, this project clearly shows a major weakness in REVIT that makes BIM solutions almost impossible. Making a picture in REVIT works great indeed... but after that a contractor needs to do his planning. He needs to know the exact shape of each part in order to know how much material to buy and how to cut and assemble it. And there is the point... REVIT just is not able to produce a part-list! Especially with more complicated projects this is a major setback. Same goes for steel constructions - REVIT makes very nice connections but for some reason can not tell how each individual part looks like. I have seen a demo of Tekla where you can point at a piece of wall and out comes a list of parts to produce... I have put this forward at my Autodesk provider and until now they are looking at the problem...
Congratulations for excellent videos. I would like to suggest making a video about how to make a table of quantities by rooms. Is it possible to create?
Maybe you could combine this step with your previous video with the tree-house? If I was suppose to actually build that treehouse I would model it in to extreme detail. Not because you SHOULD, but because I CAN. I´ve even modeled individual screws and L-brackets when I modeled my new porch. The purpose of this was to really plan/think about HOW I would build it and what challanges I would encounter. Aswell as geting very accurate/complete materiallists. When I´m in the supply store, I wount miss to buy any type of screws (different screws/screwheads for different purposes) or other material. And even get the material Precut by the store. Balkan: I used Structual systems for this. I even thought about trying to change steel-systems in to wood and then use Steel-connections for my L-brackets/joints. But I didnt get that far...
Great video. Although i feel everything appears to be a work around in Revit. Such a wall is common and this way isn't ideal. Im actually considering Archicad, its more intuitive.
It maybe be more intuitive, but revit has better customizable, and creating your own family’s is easier. If you really want to model these kind of walls, and almost all your projects have them, consider buying a revit plugin for this. Where i live these kind of walls are less comon, and most of the time a curtain wall wil do fine for this job.
Its an option that Revit should have,they are common world wide in timber and steel. The only thing bad here is that the footers and headers are wrong.The vertical timbers should sit on top of the footer and under the header ot run the full height with noggins top and bottom.
I show how to fix those join conditions at the end of the video. It will take a bit time, but you can get everything to look exactly how you want it to! 🙂
@@balkanarchitect Yes I saw it but if theres a office block full of studded walls itll take a week,do you not know of a way to do the en-mass,I dont and Im grateful for this way,if I dont need detail thisll work fine.
Hello, I've been watching your videos and they are so helpful! I'm currently doing a project for school and having a difficult time using revit. We have load bearing walls (wood) in our project both interior and exterior with openings in them wondering if the way you did this wall would be same for a load bearing wall? Thank you!
i use agacad suite on a daily basis, both for precast concrete and framing. it's awesome. it would be nice to see balkan architect to do a demo, also for mwf
how do you put a lintel above the opening. can you automatically generate a lintel depending on the size of the opening if i had a table of lintel span vs sizes
Hey Balkan, really interesting way to create the inside framing of walls. One quick question! We being creating wall this way for a while now, for 4d purposes. To create openings on multiple walls at the same time, we just ad a void on the family, driven by two parametic planes instead of the wall thickness. Would this work for courtain walls too? Got me thinking!
Is there a way to stagger the horizontal panels so they're offset between the mullions? Also can you change a panel to be a continuous piece along the top & bottom (sill plates)
I have a small question. Do you know how to let the door frame shows on both sides of the gypsum board? Right now, both sides of the door frames are only showing on one of the gypsum board.
Autodesk Revit programmers should develop an easy and direct way of drawing Steel stud and wood stud framing walls rather making these things such indirect, creative, tricky and complicated ways for most of the untalented people like us.
This doesn’t appear to work in Revit LT I just can’t seem to join the geometry to make the door opening work. When I go to link the 2 p/board skins one side is deleted completely. Any thoughts?
Do we know why Autodesk removed the ability for add-ins to do wood framing walls? I would have hoped they were going to add a feature within Revit to be able to frame walls/openings with wood members, but they didn't.
Your videos are highly appreciated, however this topic is highly naive. What is being modeled is not only unnecessary it would overburden a large model. Issues like interior/exterior wall framing is a performance spec item which is either further elaborated in a speciation manual and/or detailed/outlined in the partition schedule. A framer on a job site has no real need for any of this model information. Revit is a great tool to get all the principal trade assemblies and systems of a building “on the stage” so they can be properly coordinated and checked for interference in 3D. However, “over-modeling” such as discussed in this video is absolutely not worth the effort. It wastes valuable workstation and network resources, and more importantly it is a waste of time. And in this day and age of the Architectural profession “Time is Money”. Both are extremely precious in terms of office sustainability.
By far one of the best (if not the best) Revit channels out here in youtube...
Rather than using 2 separate walls as the 'wall boards', you could use one wall with it's construction set to have a board either side of a cavity with 'air' material. Then, when drawing the timber frame curtain wall, it will automatically embed, to the cavity (providing you have sized them the same). Good content though! 👍🏻
Good tip! 🙂
Would you mind explaining it further? it sounds fantastic however the timber frame curtain wall will just take out the whole chunk from the board wall instead of embedding itself to the cavity. I'm not sure if it's actually possible...
@Aman Choudhary Have you tried void forms? I barely know my way around, but cutting the hollow part out with void forms might work.
Good tip, but not great for my current project where the "wall boards" only cover a part of the wood stud walls. However when I try to join the "wall boards" it doesn't cut out the door opening.
I just realized the other Wood Framing video he made in 2021 was a follow-up on this comment. Wow! Kudos to you both!
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I'm currently learning Revit (coming from Autocad) from a paid for tutorial and it's been great but doesn't go into detail in certain areas. I stumbled across one of your videos and have subscribed since and just keep coming back. You have so many tutorials and they are concise and have great flow to them. I've been getting refreshers in other software apps like Reaper and Blender and there are many UA-camrs like yourself that help with great tutorials like yours Thanks for all your time and effort you put into these. It does not go unnoticed. Cheers sir.
you saved my project and I am eternally grateful
As always - helpful and clear. The only issue I have found with this is that the spacing for the first stud needs to be measured from the outside edge not the centre.
You've gotten a lot more confident over the past few years, good for you!
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Very creative. This is out-of-the-box-thinking.
We love you, Balkan Architect! You've just saved my day....
Thank you. With this i dont need to buy an extra plugin🤩
balkan the best ever...
You are a genius. That is called thinking out of the box.
Hello,
When doing your drawings you will need to add a King stud, one that goes from the bottom plate to the top plate on either side of the header, connected to the header. That will be on either a window opening as well as a door opening
Brilliant idea but this will need extra work especially in the large projects, you need to draw 3 walls for each wall, hope Autodesk add built-in solution for framing like Chief architect software.
I can literally frame a wall faster than this....
...so am I right in concluding that Revit, an architectural app costing over £2000 per year, can't do stud walls??!?!?!
I really like ur video I am architect student from Ethiopia
Nice idea mate!
I tried this for smaller projects and exploded wall axos a while back and it worked well for basic nogging diagrams.
I'm currently actually building a dynamo script to place 'bays' of framing as line based families using dynamo. Hopefully share to my channel in a few months... I'll mention this video though as a good method to keep it simple!
Did you complete this after Gavin? I’m toying with the idea of creating a warehouse of multiple wall types created…then grouped as assemblies for the benefit of elevating as a shop drawing, away from the model itself.
@@markr8604 too many junctions to automate in the end. Maybe look into mwf addins by AGACAD.
Hi Balkan Architect, thanks for the great tutorial! However, this project clearly shows a major weakness in REVIT that makes BIM solutions almost impossible. Making a picture in REVIT works great indeed... but after that a contractor needs to do his planning. He needs to know the exact shape of each part in order to know how much material to buy and how to cut and assemble it.
And there is the point... REVIT just is not able to produce a part-list! Especially with more complicated projects this is a major setback. Same goes for steel constructions - REVIT makes very nice connections but for some reason can not tell how each individual part looks like. I have seen a demo of Tekla where you can point at a piece of wall and out comes a list of parts to produce...
I have put this forward at my Autodesk provider and until now they are looking at the problem...
you are brilliant and clever!! how you manage to be both?? hats off
Congratulations for excellent videos. I would like to suggest making a video about how to make a table of quantities by rooms. Is it possible to create?
Maybe you could combine this step with your previous video with the tree-house? If I was suppose to actually build that treehouse I would model it in to extreme detail.
Not because you SHOULD, but because I CAN.
I´ve even modeled individual screws and L-brackets when I modeled my new porch. The purpose of this was to really plan/think about HOW I would build it and what challanges I would encounter. Aswell as geting very accurate/complete materiallists. When I´m in the supply store, I wount miss to buy any type of screws (different screws/screwheads for different purposes) or other material.
And even get the material Precut by the store.
Balkan: I used Structual systems for this. I even thought about trying to change steel-systems in to wood and then use Steel-connections for my L-brackets/joints. But I didnt get that far...
Thank you for this helpful revit wood tutorial
Bravo
Great video. Very helpful
Thank you
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Thank you :)
Hey BA, I want to become like you, you’re awesome.
Hi, love you work, if possible could you make a video on MWF pulgin (Metal wood framing)
Great video. Although i feel everything appears to be a work around in Revit. Such a wall is common and this way isn't ideal.
Im actually considering Archicad, its more intuitive.
It maybe be more intuitive, but revit has better customizable, and creating your own family’s is easier. If you really want to model these kind of walls, and almost all your projects have them, consider buying a revit plugin for this.
Where i live these kind of walls are less comon, and most of the time a curtain wall wil do fine for this job.
Its an option that Revit should have,they are common world wide in timber and steel. The only thing bad here is that the footers and headers are wrong.The vertical timbers should sit on top of the footer and under the header ot run the full height with noggins top and bottom.
I show how to fix those join conditions at the end of the video. It will take a bit time, but you can get everything to look exactly how you want it to! 🙂
@@balkanarchitect Yes I saw it but if theres a office block full of studded walls itll take a week,do you not know of a way to do the en-mass,I dont and Im grateful for this way,if I dont need detail thisll work fine.
@@Bobg425 for mass scale I would look into third party plugins;
strucsoftsolutions.com/
Thank you sharing.
good job
Super cool!
Gracias creo que es el mejor que a explicado.
thank you!
I wish it had a family to draw quickly and manage the openings more easily.
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Hello, I've been watching your videos and they are so helpful! I'm currently doing a project for school and having a difficult time using revit. We have load bearing walls (wood) in our project both interior and exterior with openings in them wondering if the way you did this wall would be same for a load bearing wall? Thank you!
Everything is a workaround in Revit...
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with this method, unfortunately, there will be no correct specification for vertical rack, they will be made of pieces.
Chief Architect does it better and faster. Who's using different software here for different purposes?
When I join the two walls the opening is not applied to the other side. why? I'm using Revit 2023
Use AGA CAD OR MWF FRAMER for wall frameing
Thank's for the tip I will look in to that!
MWF framer looks good but I cant find a price anywhere for it?
@@Bobg425 pro suite is about $5000 USD for a network lisence. No wonder they don't show it on their website!
@@AussieBIMGuru ye gods.Free trial pasted everywhere,no wonder.Oh well theres always torrents.
i use agacad suite on a daily basis, both for precast concrete and framing. it's awesome.
it would be nice to see balkan architect to do a demo, also for mwf
how do you put a lintel above the opening. can you automatically generate a lintel depending on the size of the opening if i had a table of lintel span vs sizes
Hey Balkan, really interesting way to create the inside framing of walls. One quick question! We being creating wall this way for a while now, for 4d purposes. To create openings on multiple walls at the same time, we just ad a void on the family, driven by two parametic planes instead of the wall thickness. Would this work for courtain walls too? Got me thinking!
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Hi i love your videos but do you know how to add a header for the door and windows?
hi balcon in my pc just available non in vert, & horz. Mullion on Wall property..can you please tell me how you load family there
Can you use this method for counting studs or adjust the horizontal studs at the door and windows for the header size once the wall is complete?
how can do schedule for this wood parts?
Is there a way to stagger the horizontal panels so they're offset between the mullions? Also can you change a panel to be a continuous piece along the top & bottom (sill plates)
I have yet to find a door family that cuts bith the walls when i join them. How did you achieve that?
how would i go about to placing structural frames on a curved wall?
I have a small question. Do you know how to let the door frame shows on both sides of the gypsum board? Right now, both sides of the door frames are only showing on one of the gypsum board.
Q - why does revit make this difficult? Why isnt there a way to simply draw these?
Autodesk Revit programmers should develop an easy and direct way of drawing Steel stud and wood stud framing walls rather making these things such indirect, creative, tricky and complicated ways for most of the untalented people like us.
This doesn’t appear to work in Revit LT I just can’t seem to join the geometry to make the door opening work. When I go to link the 2 p/board skins one side is deleted completely. Any thoughts?
Is it possible to transform this wall into a Family?
when I try to change the material tye for the solid panel it wont change to rock wool or any other material for that matter
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Hello Balkan, I've been having issues on dimensioning an elliptical building. Any tips?
Do we know why Autodesk removed the ability for add-ins to do wood framing walls? I would have hoped they were going to add a feature within Revit to be able to frame walls/openings with wood members, but they didn't.
I think at the moment they cannot do it better than AGA so no wood framing feature has been released
why do it this way, if you can just use the structural tools in revit, and work with beams, columns, truss and brace, etc?
Hi, you can use that approach, but this is much faster.
@@balkanarchitect only for the architect, the designer will die ))
There is no Header over the door.
How do I get to your files to upload and do to have a concrete detail section
Your videos are highly appreciated, however this topic is highly naive. What is being modeled is not only unnecessary it would overburden a large model. Issues like interior/exterior wall framing is a performance spec item which is either further elaborated in a speciation manual and/or detailed/outlined in the partition schedule. A framer on a job site has no real need for any of this model information. Revit is a great tool to get all the principal trade assemblies and systems of a building “on the stage” so they can be properly coordinated and checked for interference in 3D. However, “over-modeling” such as discussed in this video is absolutely not worth the effort. It wastes valuable workstation and network resources, and more importantly it is a waste of time. And in this day and age of the Architectural profession “Time is Money”. Both are extremely precious in terms of office sustainability.
I was looking for those words, Thank you for putting it so eloquently.
I bet the Next version of revit already wont allow it 😂 they didnt partner up with AGAcad for no reason
how do you put a top plate on the wall rather than just blocking in between the studs at the top
This method works only for a very simple wall, becomes too complicated in a real project.
Chief architecture is chief at this! This is not it! There is more to framing than this, you should delete this 😢