The Third Century crisis wasn't about Rome falling, it was about the collapse of Imperial authority, civil wars, breakaway of provinces. In the 7th century Rome nearly collapsed totally. So agreed!
I would argue that this was the end of the “Roman Empire” in its classical, Mediterranean-spanning form. In 600, it was still recognizable as the Late Roman Empire. But the Byzantine state that emerged from this by 700 was radically different.
@@jeffreypopper9719100% no doubt because by the end of this period, the Arab world stretches from Spain to central Asia, and the Muslim armies would fight both a Frankish AND Chinese army within a span of 20 years in the mid 8th century. The Romans had a crazy run, from Hannibal to Umar, but after 800ish years of empire, it was over as soon as Al-As took Egypt and cut off the Romans Asian holdings from their African holdings.
As a history teacher, the history of the eastern Roman Empire following the fall of the western half has always been a little bit of a grey area for me when discussing the Roman Era with my students. Pure reading didn't allow me to visualize the happenings very well. Thank you for your detailed explanations and accompanying visuals of this period. It corroborates with the books I have of the era. Well done!
The Caliphates, not only managed to defeat both the Romans and the Sassanids, but they changed the status quo of the Mediterranean. This was truly the beginning of the Medieval Age.
Out of all parts in this video, the Second Siege of Constantinople by the Arabs in 717-718 is my most favorite part here. Speaking of such an event, should someone make a movie out of it? Fun Fact: Imperatrix Maria, wife of Imperator Leo III, also given birth to his son and future Imperator Constantine V, while the capital of Constantinople was being besieged by the Umayyad Caliphate.
Keep up the great work! The beauty and tragedy of the ERE is amazingly presented in these videos. I hope that we'll see tear dropping as well as hopeful presentations in the future that will keep up this amazing work 😉😁
The active rejection of Monothelytism by the Miaphysite Armenians makes one wonder to what extent the Dya v Miaphysite controversy played a role in losing Egypt and Syria. It seems conceivable that the Coptic and Aramaic speakers preferred the Arabs to Greek rule. Perhaps at this time Islam was not yet clearly defined and appeared like a potentially close set of beliefs, acceptable to the miaphysites.
Copts preferring the caliphate is a myth, yeah they had grievances with Chalcedonian rule but they did not prefer Muslim rule over it. The Coptic sources are quite clear on that and Egypt unlike Syria did see local resistance and a hard fought campaign to take the region.
The Armenian church united for a while with chalcedonianism under Catholicos ezra and nerses iii at the council of theodosiopolis, until John of odzun convened the council of manzikert in the 700s and condemned chalcedonianism again.
Theophanes the Confessor was a prominent Byzantine Greek Scholar and Chronicler. His monumental work “Chronographia” (Χρονογραφία), covers the events from the accession of Diocletian in 284 AD (which is the point where the Chronicle of George Syncellus ends), to the downfall of Emperor Michael I in 813 AD. This part of the Chronicle is valuable for having preserved the accounts of lost authorities on Byzantine Greek history for the seventh and eighth centuries that would otherwise have been lost. Truly, a historical and academic treasure.
The Caliphates not only succeeded in overcoming both the Roman and Sassanid empires, but they also transformed the dynamics of the Mediterranean region. This marked a significant turning point and the true dawn of the Medieval Age.
The Byzantine Empire faced a significant threat from the rise of Islam and Arab invasions, which began in the 600s: Arab conquest The Arab Caliphate forced the Byzantine Empire out of the Levant in the 630s. The Muslim navy nearly destroyed the Byzantine fleet in the 655 Battle of the Masts, ending the empire's control of the Mediterranean
They're not Arab armies but Muslim armies of various ethnicities!! Even most of these conquests in the holy book the Quran are referred to as Islamic "Fateh" or Muslim openings or victories not an Arab one.. Because believe it or not, the army During the Conquest of Mecca and the early expansion of Islam were made up of 90% Arabs, but since the fall of the Sasanian empire and the conquest of north Africa the army who fought the Romans and conquest Iberia were from the different ethnicities united by Islam, Berbers Persians Anatolians Turks and more..
Feels like the opposite pov of K&G, if there i know more of Arab internal politics, here i know more about Romans. For Constans, as someone who look like to be set up as a puppet he certainly managed to rule well. His unpopularity is understandable though.
K & G is kinda biased he didn't mention a Single Islamic atrocities but Never miss a Chance to Show Atrocities of Others(for example massacre in Jerusalem by Crusaders)
Man I really wished the Eastern Romans weren't obsessed with religious unity at that time. Heck, if Justinian had stopped at conquering Africa, losing Egypt ang Syria wouldn't be such a huge setback.
I also really love how you hide spoliers by not showing the potrait of the characters until they become important(such as becoming emperor) like Leontius
I loved the part when the Christian empires colonized almost every square inch of Islamic territory, and banned their barbaric acts. I also loved how even though Iraq had the largest Muslim army in the world, the west managed to occupy Baghdad in less than two weeks.
@@bobbobb4804 Iraq was a secular country, not an Islamic one. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the combined might of 70 countries couldn't make a dent, and Trillions of Dollars went down the gutter, all the while China built it's strength and is now ready for a major confrontation with the West.
What civilization have Arabs created? They took math from the Indians, art from the Persians and Egyptians, thought from the Greeks and Romans, religion from Jews and Christians. Then their "islamic golden age" barely lasted a few centuries. Since then it has been unchecked bloodshed and barbarism in the Muslim world ever since. That's why Muslim countries now are rotting corrupt disintegrating abominations that have to copy Western ways of doing things.
Bulgars,are everywere,from where word Vulgar come?By Old Bulgarian calendar,today is 7535 year,after Flood,from how many years,we live arround Black See?Why is called Old great Bulgaria-same,as latin and greek Magna?What is real history of East Europe?Why in Balkans is first man made gold in the world,and some of oldest salt mines?And why i all those old lands is still used bulgarian alfabet,not any other?Who divide us all?So many questions,haha.But we will found the truth,to learn,from it.I have heard tale,about 3 brothers-Hazar,Avar and Bulgar,next story of kanas yubigi Kubrat and his 5 sons,divide the peoples and make 2 other countries,but is the same story,with Charlemane(we call him Karl the Great) and his sons.Happy Hollydays,healt,happynes and peace
Islam and Muslims didn't emerge, fully-formed, out of the Arabian desert, as misrepresented here. It was a long, drawn-out process to arrive at what would much later be called Islam. Mu'awiyah was a Christian (although a heretical one, in the eyes of the orthodoxy), for example.
As orthodox Christian of Cuman and Roman Byzantine origin i decided to convert to Islam because my orthodox Christian brothers abandon my ancestors to their deaths yet they forgot that those states that i write right now exist because of the Cumans but when the Mongols attack my ancestors homeland Cumania they did nothing to help, Hungary, Bulgaria, Eastern Roman Empire, Romania, Armenia, Georgia, Greece and many more we are done fighting for others that we bleed for them and they don't bleed for us, choose Christians of the world either you help me get back Cumania the land of my ancestors or die by Muslims in their mercy choose soon all the world will become Muslim and you will understand that betray Cumans will be your end, West will fall and all Christian countries, as long as you don't help my people get back our ancestors homeland, accept your fate become Muslims or die this is your future
Vakhtang VI of Georgia, Heraclius II of Georgia monk sulkhan saba orbeliani and may there be other Georgians but who i don't know yet asked so many times help because they were too weak against muslim and barbaric invaders no one came to help to them. . .does this mean we Georgians also should convert to islam? Betray is not coming from enemies i know this by hard way trust me, but fighting and kepp fighting for christ you may find the way to the truth and to the harmony, no one even today helps us to survive strugles, even worse they do what might make us dissapear. . . 100k lay dead under obly my beloved capital tbilisi because they refused to become muslims, should i also become the one now cuz nobody came for help?
@levanikojulakidze5213 Cumans my ancestors fought for your country,tell me Georgian guy that you are, we are both Christians orthodox i am half Central Asian Cuman half West Asian Roman Byzantine,tell me why when the Mongols genocide my people you did nothing to help us? When Seljuks kill many of your people we were the one's who beat them but when the Mongols come and took our land rape, killing, enslave, stealing women's and children's and our army you Orthodox Christians did nothing to help us yet you all remain orthodox Christians because of Cumans bleed for your countries and your people, you didn't lost your ancestors homeland i did you have a homeland, my people and i we kicked from Central Asia to West Asia and to Europe assimilated by other cultures and languages lost everything except their some of us who were very Mongoloid still, tell me Georgian, you have a homeland i don't i only i am in a state ruled by Greeks my language is Greek, my heart is Türkic, i am Cuman, i want my ancestors homeland Cumania back,if i have too make a deal with the devil i will do it in order to restore my ancestors homeland Cumania and unite all the Cumans in one country, you may not care about your people but i do they are my family and if they die i will die with them,so yes i will kiss the Pope hand convert to Catholicism betray Orthodox Christianity that is my religion by birth we protect it from Catholics now i will have to abandon it or i will convert to Islam anything that can help to take back my ancestors homeland Cumania from those who stole it and take revenge on the Mongol savages, the Pope Francis if doesn't help with a crusade i will ask the help of Muslims, my state will convert to Catholicism or Islam depends what i will convert,i have noble blood i am Cuman related to Kötten Khan it is my duty as it was his he wanted to restore Cumania he loved that country and i share his dream,i don't expect help from other Orthodox Christians at all you all care about yourselves your egoistic and arrogant, I wanted my Cumania to become a Türkic Cuman Orthodox country now is only a dream
@@levanikojulakidze5213 Cumans my ancestors fought for your country,tell me Georgian guy that you are, we are both Christians orthodox i am half Central Asian Cuman half West Asian Roman Byzantine,tell me why when the Mongols genocide my people you did nothing to help us? When Seljuks kill many of your people we were the one's who beat them but when the Mongols come and took our land rape, killing, enslave, stealing women's and children's and our army you Orthodox Christians did nothing to help us yet you all remain orthodox Christians because of Cumans bleed for your countries and your people, you didn't lost your ancestors homeland i did you have a homeland, my people and i we kicked from Central Asia to West Asia and to Europe assimilated by other cultures and languages lost everything except their some of us who were very Mongoloid still, tell me Georgian, you have a homeland i don't i only i am in a state ruled by Greeks my language is Greek, my heart is Türkic, i am Cuman, i want my ancestors homeland Cumania back,if i have too make a deal with the devil i will do it in order to restore my ancestors homeland Cumania and unite all the Cumans in one country, you may not care about your people but i do they are my family and if they die i will die with them,so yes i will kiss the Pope hand convert to Catholicism betray Orthodox Christianity that is my religion by birth we protect it from Catholics now i will have to abandon it or i will convert to Islam anything that can help to take back my ancestors homeland Cumania from those who stole it and take revenge on the Mongol savages, the Pope Francis if doesn't help with a crusade i will ask the help of Muslims, my state will convert to Catholicism or Islam depends what i will convert,i have noble blood i am Cuman related to Kötten Khan it is my duty as it was his he wanted to restore Cumania he loved that country and i share his dream,i don't expect help from other Orthodox Christians at all you all care about yourselves your egoistic and arrogant, I wanted my Cumania to become a Türkic Cuman Orthodox country now is only a dream
The crisis of the 7th century and 8th you can argue were far more closer to destroying the Roman Empire than the 3rd century
And closer than the 5th century? Maybe too.
There's no doubt of that friend
The Third Century crisis wasn't about Rome falling, it was about the collapse of Imperial authority, civil wars, breakaway of provinces. In the 7th century Rome nearly collapsed totally. So agreed!
I would argue that this was the end of the “Roman Empire” in its classical, Mediterranean-spanning form. In 600, it was still recognizable as the Late Roman Empire. But the Byzantine state that emerged from this by 700 was radically different.
@@jeffreypopper9719100% no doubt because by the end of this period, the Arab world stretches from Spain to central Asia, and the Muslim armies would fight both a Frankish AND Chinese army within a span of 20 years in the mid 8th century. The Romans had a crazy run, from Hannibal to Umar, but after 800ish years of empire, it was over as soon as Al-As took Egypt and cut off the Romans Asian holdings from their African holdings.
As a history teacher, the history of the eastern Roman Empire following the fall of the western half has always been a little bit of a grey area for me when discussing the Roman Era with my students. Pure reading didn't allow me to visualize the happenings very well. Thank you for your detailed explanations and accompanying visuals of this period. It corroborates with the books I have of the era. Well done!
I recommended the channel Pero Esa es Otra Historia - Peninsula Arabiga
You make insanely good, well-researched content and its baffling how this channel isn't more popular.
This is undoubtedly my favorite history channel at the moment.
If you like this channel which I am starting to like to I suggest checking out. Historymarche, King's and Generals and Epic History TV
Amazing as always! You cover Roman history like no other!
Please, don't stop making these videos... They are awesome!!!
The Caliphates, not only managed to defeat both the Romans and the Sassanids, but they changed the status quo of the Mediterranean. This was truly the beginning of the Medieval Age.
They were severely weaken by their last war that only ended few years before. They fought each other for almost 30 years.
@@JavidDiljohn1Yes. But it does not matter why they fell, just that they did.
But the Romans somehow managed to outlive them.
@@deadmoney5580 but they were a shadow of their former self
I really love this series❤ Please keep making these videos☺️
Worthy of waiting bro more please
Good to see you back! Looking forward to more content from you!
Out of all parts in this video, the Second Siege of Constantinople by the Arabs in 717-718 is my most favorite part here. Speaking of such an event, should someone make a movie out of it?
Fun Fact: Imperatrix Maria, wife of Imperator Leo III, also given birth to his son and future Imperator Constantine V, while the capital of Constantinople was being besieged by the Umayyad Caliphate.
This is by far the best history channel on UA-cam right now.
Take a drink everytime Armenia changes colour
Nice video!
I really like the year by year format which allows for a full appreciation of what was happening.
Keep up the great work! The beauty and tragedy of the ERE is amazingly presented in these videos. I hope that we'll see tear dropping as well as hopeful presentations in the future that will keep up this amazing work 😉😁
The active rejection of Monothelytism by the Miaphysite Armenians makes one wonder to what extent the Dya v Miaphysite controversy played a role in losing Egypt and Syria. It seems conceivable that the Coptic and Aramaic speakers preferred the Arabs to Greek rule. Perhaps at this time Islam was not yet clearly defined and appeared like a potentially close set of beliefs, acceptable to the miaphysites.
Maybe but Islam was already defined after prophets death.
Copts preferring the caliphate is a myth, yeah they had grievances with Chalcedonian rule but they did not prefer Muslim rule over it. The Coptic sources are quite clear on that and Egypt unlike Syria did see local resistance and a hard fought campaign to take the region.
The Armenian church united for a while with chalcedonianism under Catholicos ezra and nerses iii at the council of theodosiopolis, until John of odzun convened the council of manzikert in the 700s and condemned chalcedonianism again.
@@tylerellis9097some standed with the Romans and the others stood with the Muslims
Isn't Egypt was conquered by few thousands arabs without serious resistance from local population?@tylerellis9097
I really love❤the Byzantine series, but when are we getting the next standalone episode?
Probably around February. If all goes well, I will start working with someone to make these episodes more often
Great video like usual’s keeps the great work brother
Thank you for your vids
Underrated Channel
Great understanding
Another excellent upload. Thank you.
Good video.
Theophanes the Confessor was a prominent Byzantine Greek Scholar and Chronicler. His monumental work “Chronographia” (Χρονογραφία), covers the events from the accession of Diocletian in 284 AD (which is the point where the Chronicle of George Syncellus ends), to the downfall of Emperor Michael I in 813 AD.
This part of the Chronicle is valuable for having preserved the accounts of lost authorities on Byzantine Greek history for the seventh and eighth centuries that would otherwise have been lost.
Truly, a historical and academic treasure.
The Caliphates not only succeeded in overcoming both the Roman and Sassanid empires, but they also transformed the dynamics of the Mediterranean region. This marked a significant turning point and the true dawn of the Medieval Age.
The Byzantine Empire faced a significant threat from the rise of Islam and Arab invasions, which began in the 600s:
Arab conquest
The Arab Caliphate forced the Byzantine Empire out of the Levant in the 630s. The Muslim navy nearly destroyed the Byzantine fleet in the 655 Battle of the Masts, ending the empire's control of the Mediterranean
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Unfortunately it's just a compilation of his other videos :/
Oh boy get ready for another classic of ancient sight!!!!
Bro How did you Implement Audio Tracks ? Did you hired Dubbing Artist? Please answer me 😯🤔
I keep forgetting there was a "second" Iberia in the east…
When is the video on Leo III coming out?
I can't say for sure
Damn this stuff is excellent
They're not Arab armies but Muslim armies of various ethnicities!! Even most of these conquests in the holy book the Quran are referred to as Islamic "Fateh" or Muslim openings or victories not an Arab one.. Because believe it or not, the army During the Conquest of Mecca and the early expansion of Islam were made up of 90% Arabs, but since the fall of the Sasanian empire and the conquest of north Africa the army who fought the Romans and conquest Iberia were from the different ethnicities united by Islam, Berbers Persians Anatolians Turks and more..
The Ummayads were Arab supremacists and infamously so. They didn't consider non Arabs as real muslims.
woah, peak editing
He is back 🔥🔥🔥
Your map is incredibly beautiful, how did you make it?
Photoshop and much time to waste learning to make maps
Cuando salen mas videos??
Feels like the opposite pov of K&G, if there i know more of Arab internal politics, here i know more about Romans.
For Constans, as someone who look like to be set up as a puppet he certainly managed to rule well. His unpopularity is understandable though.
K & G is kinda biased he didn't mention a Single Islamic atrocities but Never miss a Chance to Show Atrocities of Others(for example massacre in Jerusalem by Crusaders)
Man I really wished the Eastern Romans weren't obsessed with religious unity at that time. Heck, if Justinian had stopped at conquering Africa, losing Egypt ang Syria wouldn't be such a huge setback.
What animation software do you use?
Hmmm a new history channel I've been recommended let's check them out
It truly was the worst timeline (for Rome, at least).... 😢
Cry harder dude get over it seriously
@@DarthLore00N O 🗿
19:59 similar to _wildfire_ of Westeros
Leon todo un baddass
We are strugling for Roman Throne woth this one!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I like this video as others you have btw.
Where could one find Roman sources regarding about the Amazigh/Berbers within this era?
The Romans did what they have always done best, and that was to adapt and survive.
Dude they were so incompetent a lot of times
Great maps
Better then Kings and generals,Bazz Battles,History March and Epic History
40:30 But, if you speak against it, you would be accused of i Phobia
Ummayads were insanely massive, wow
Poor heraclius
Wasn’t Antioch under Muslim control? How can the emperor deposed the patriarch?
I also really love how you hide spoliers by not showing the potrait of the characters until they become important(such as becoming emperor) like Leontius
Meanwhile Seljuks in their corner:Amateurs!
Turks truly were Anti-roman to the core
The Seljuqs didn't even exist as a distinct group during the 7th century
@@hopeundertheblacksun seljuk is dynastic name. They called turks and they exist in that century.
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The Arabs fought the barbarians, and they by the grace of the creator won. And we all ought be thankful for that.
I loved the part when the Christian empires colonized almost every square inch of Islamic territory, and banned their barbaric acts. I also loved how even though Iraq had the largest Muslim army in the world, the west managed to occupy Baghdad in less than two weeks.
@@bobbobb4804 Iraq was a secular country, not an Islamic one. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the combined might of 70 countries couldn't make a dent, and Trillions of Dollars went down the gutter, all the while China built it's strength and is now ready for a major confrontation with the West.
No they lost
What civilization have Arabs created? They took math from the Indians, art from the Persians and Egyptians, thought from the Greeks and Romans, religion from Jews and Christians. Then their "islamic golden age" barely lasted a few centuries. Since then it has been unchecked bloodshed and barbarism in the Muslim world ever since. That's why Muslim countries now are rotting corrupt disintegrating abominations that have to copy Western ways of doing things.
Bulgars,are everywere,from where word Vulgar come?By Old Bulgarian calendar,today is 7535 year,after Flood,from how many years,we live arround Black See?Why is called Old great Bulgaria-same,as latin and greek Magna?What is real history of East Europe?Why in Balkans is first man made gold in the world,and some of oldest salt mines?And why i all those old lands is still used bulgarian alfabet,not any other?Who divide us all?So many questions,haha.But we will found the truth,to learn,from it.I have heard tale,about 3 brothers-Hazar,Avar and Bulgar,next story of kanas yubigi Kubrat and his 5 sons,divide the peoples and make 2 other countries,but is the same story,with Charlemane(we call him Karl the Great) and his sons.Happy Hollydays,healt,happynes and peace
what are you talking about are you okay?
And they say we are the colonizers😌
You are
Islam and Muslims didn't emerge, fully-formed, out of the Arabian desert, as misrepresented here. It was a long, drawn-out process to arrive at what would much later be called Islam. Mu'awiyah was a Christian (although a heretical one, in the eyes of the orthodoxy), for example.
Mawiyah wasn't a Christian and there is no proof of it.
He was an Islamic caliph.
It's like calling the pope a Muslim
😂😂😂
@Alruwaili11 History is funny to you?
I don’t believe there is any evidence of him being a Christian. What source did you find this in?
@miltonbates6425 no it's your accusation
As orthodox Christian of Cuman and Roman Byzantine origin i decided to convert to Islam because my orthodox Christian brothers abandon my ancestors to their deaths yet they forgot that those states that i write right now exist because of the Cumans but when the Mongols attack my ancestors homeland Cumania they did nothing to help, Hungary, Bulgaria, Eastern Roman Empire, Romania, Armenia, Georgia, Greece and many more we are done fighting for others that we bleed for them and they don't bleed for us, choose Christians of the world either you help me get back Cumania the land of my ancestors or die by Muslims in their mercy choose soon all the world will become Muslim and you will understand that betray Cumans will be your end, West will fall and all Christian countries, as long as you don't help my people get back our ancestors homeland, accept your fate become Muslims or die this is your future
Vakhtang VI of Georgia, Heraclius II of Georgia monk sulkhan saba orbeliani and may there be other Georgians but who i don't know yet asked so many times help because they were too weak against muslim and barbaric invaders no one came to help to them. . .does this mean we Georgians also should convert to islam? Betray is not coming from enemies i know this by hard way trust me, but fighting and kepp fighting for christ you may find the way to the truth and to the harmony, no one even today helps us to survive strugles, even worse they do what might make us dissapear. . . 100k lay dead under obly my beloved capital tbilisi because they refused to become muslims, should i also become the one now cuz nobody came for help?
@levanikojulakidze5213 Cumans my ancestors fought for your country,tell me Georgian guy that you are, we are both Christians orthodox i am half Central Asian Cuman half West Asian Roman Byzantine,tell me why when the Mongols genocide my people you did nothing to help us? When Seljuks kill many of your people we were the one's who beat them but when the Mongols come and took our land rape, killing, enslave, stealing women's and children's and our army you Orthodox Christians did nothing to help us yet you all remain orthodox Christians because of Cumans bleed for your countries and your people, you didn't lost your ancestors homeland i did you have a homeland, my people and i we kicked from Central Asia to West Asia and to Europe assimilated by other cultures and languages lost everything except their some of us who were very Mongoloid still, tell me Georgian, you have a homeland i don't i only i am in a state ruled by Greeks my language is Greek, my heart is Türkic, i am Cuman, i want my ancestors homeland Cumania back,if i have too make a deal with the devil i will do it in order to restore my ancestors homeland Cumania and unite all the Cumans in one country, you may not care about your people but i do they are my family and if they die i will die with them,so yes i will kiss the Pope hand convert to Catholicism betray Orthodox Christianity that is my religion by birth we protect it from Catholics now i will have to abandon it or i will convert to Islam anything that can help to take back my ancestors homeland Cumania from those who stole it and take revenge on the Mongol savages, the Pope Francis if doesn't help with a crusade i will ask the help of Muslims, my state will convert to Catholicism or Islam depends what i will convert,i have noble blood i am Cuman related to Kötten Khan it is my duty as it was his he wanted to restore Cumania he loved that country and i share his dream,i don't expect help from other Orthodox Christians at all you all care about yourselves your egoistic and arrogant, I wanted my Cumania to become a Türkic Cuman Orthodox country now is only a dream
@@levanikojulakidze5213 Cumans my ancestors fought for your country,tell me Georgian guy that you are, we are both Christians orthodox i am half Central Asian Cuman half West Asian Roman Byzantine,tell me why when the Mongols genocide my people you did nothing to help us? When Seljuks kill many of your people we were the one's who beat them but when the Mongols come and took our land rape, killing, enslave, stealing women's and children's and our army you Orthodox Christians did nothing to help us yet you all remain orthodox Christians because of Cumans bleed for your countries and your people, you didn't lost your ancestors homeland i did you have a homeland, my people and i we kicked from Central Asia to West Asia and to Europe assimilated by other cultures and languages lost everything except their some of us who were very Mongoloid still, tell me Georgian, you have a homeland i don't i only i am in a state ruled by Greeks my language is Greek, my heart is Türkic, i am Cuman, i want my ancestors homeland Cumania back,if i have too make a deal with the devil i will do it in order to restore my ancestors homeland Cumania and unite all the Cumans in one country, you may not care about your people but i do they are my family and if they die i will die with them,so yes i will kiss the Pope hand convert to Catholicism betray Orthodox Christianity that is my religion by birth we protect it from Catholics now i will have to abandon it or i will convert to Islam anything that can help to take back my ancestors homeland Cumania from those who stole it and take revenge on the Mongol savages, the Pope Francis if doesn't help with a crusade i will ask the help of Muslims, my state will convert to Catholicism or Islam depends what i will convert,i have noble blood i am Cuman related to Kötten Khan it is my duty as it was his he wanted to restore Cumania he loved that country and i share his dream,i don't expect help from other Orthodox Christians at all you all care about yourselves your egoistic and arrogant, I wanted my Cumania to become a Türkic Cuman Orthodox country now is only a dream
It was a Muslim threat, not an Arab threat .... then as today.
True, Even the Muslim Arabs were brutally Converted from Jewish Christian & Native Arabic Faiths by Mohammad and Subsequent Ridda Wars
Great understanding