Wow. So many critics. I wonder if any of you could perform perfectly after having to deal with the trauma that putting this case together has surely caused. They are doing their best to get total justice for the Rhoden family's surviving members. THEY are the only ones who's opinions really matter... in my humble opinion. They are the victims. I seriously doubt that they are critical of anyone taking on the nerve-wracking, monumental task of trying to make sure that full justice is served. I don't understand why people feel entitled to nit pick.
Katrina, I agree with you 100%. I'm sure this prosecutor is absolutely mentally exhausted from the days and days of having to keep this case straight in her mind. The fact that she says "um" and gets criticized by her use of that word, blows me away. Why is our society so unforgiving and critical of simply the way the prosecutor is speaking? Is our society so cruel that we have to comment on such trivial issues especially when the heart of the case involves the murder of 8 human beings? I think many of these commenters need to purchase a MIRROR and begin to take a look into that mirror when they wake up every day. IMHO
@@amelia_k1082 Well said! I think people have become immune to common courtesy, decency and the teachings of Jesus. After that Malevolent Spirit floated down the escalator in June 2015, the airwaves have been polluted with spite, sarcasm, nasty criticism, false accusations, spreading rumors & gossip, insults, jealousy and very simply ---- mean spirited Rhetoric. Whatever happened to following The Golden Rule???
The prosecutor is slow in the way she speaks and asks questions, and it can be frustrating for people who are expecting a movie style courtroom drama, but we have to remember this is real life. Not everyone is snappy and quick in their delivery. What is impressive is the detailed case they have built - it's quite remarkable, the way the evidence has been compiled and catalogued. They prosecution are efficient and organised and they may be building their case slowly, but slow and steady can still win the race.
Agreed - so many murderers/victims/witnesses/locations/cover-ups/very young children involved/devastated relatives/lies/family dysfunctional behaviors. Exhausting. Prosecutor is dealing with FOUR sets of defense attorneys. Doing a great job.
After being married to an attorney for 20+ yrs I can attest to the stress associated with having a trial & all that goes along with it. You can only please some of the people some of the time. As long as you do a good job defending your client then you have done your job.
Yes, sadly, I expect Jake will get a lot of letters like Chris Watts + Boston Bomber, etc. Appears to be many sad, desperate women looking for an inmate partner. There are a few theories as to why this is so. One is that the men were momentarily "(in)famous" and the women think they, the women, somehow gain status through a "relationship" with the "famous" murderer. Another is that the women have been cheated on in previous relationships so are reassured that "their man" is placebound in jail, no going out to the bars. Seriously.
The one recording where persons says to Sofie “ why you so dirty don’t they know how to give you a bath?” Lady says it’s George saying that. To me it sounded like a female poss Angela. I guess George has a girly voice.
I totally agree about the ummms. Don't the have an assistant, intern or a friend to tell these 2 to STOP w/ the umms. Sounds so freaking annoying, plus ignorant as hell.
Surely that so called ‘special’ prosecutor knows what the basic questions to ask will be to the officers, and she can’t even get those out without uming and bumbling her way through them 🤦♀️ so off putting to the witnesses 🤷♀️
I'm sure she's absolutely exhausted Anne Wyatt. She's having to keep all the witnesses as well as the suspects straight in her mind and she's been doing this day after day for quite some time now. Don't people ever give breaks to people any longer in this society? Who are we now?
@@amelia_k1082 Thank you. I've seen so much of this. Comparing judges, critique everything an attorney says...Sometimes one might get on my nerves but I have to step back. These trials are serious and not just for entertainment purposes
deborah skunk, I'm sure she's absolutely mentally exhausted. She's having to keep all the witnesses as well as the suspects straight in her mind and she's been doing this day after day for quite some time now. Don't people ever give breaks to people any longer in this society? Who are we now? The fact that she uses "um" to keep her thoughts straight should be the least of what you take from this case because at the heart of the case is the murder of 8 human beings by 4 other human beings. imho
One day when this investigator looks at her time on the umm stand umm she will umm hate the fact she said umm in between every single word just about as bad as umm the prosecutor
They are wearing a big pair of shoes and I sense she is doing a good job. It has to be stressful tolperform herduties on such a tragic situation and words must be chosen so carefully. And all that done before multiple listeners. Let's try to remember to keep our yard as well kept as we can and not be picking apart the yards of others. I mean this as a kind reminder to us all. Truly I do.
Wow. So many critics. I wonder if any of you could perform perfectly after having to deal with the trauma that putting this case together has surely caused. They are doing their best to get total justice for the Rhoden family's surviving members. THEY are the only ones who's opinions really matter... in my humble opinion. They are the victims. I seriously doubt that they are critical of anyone taking on the nerve-wracking, monumental task of trying to make sure that full justice is served. I don't understand why people feel entitled to nit pick.
Katrina, I agree with you 100%. I'm sure this prosecutor is absolutely mentally exhausted from the days and days of having to keep this case straight in her mind. The fact that she says "um" and gets criticized by her use of that word, blows me away. Why is our society so unforgiving and critical of simply the way the prosecutor is speaking? Is our society so cruel that we have to comment on such trivial issues especially when the heart of the case involves the murder of 8 human beings? I think many of these commenters need to purchase a MIRROR and begin to take a look into that mirror when they wake up every day. IMHO
@@amelia_k1082
Well said!
I think people have become immune to common courtesy, decency and the teachings of Jesus.
After that Malevolent Spirit floated down the escalator in June 2015, the airwaves have been polluted with spite, sarcasm, nasty criticism, false accusations, spreading rumors & gossip, insults, jealousy and very simply ---- mean spirited Rhetoric.
Whatever happened to following The Golden Rule???
The prosecutor is slow in the way she speaks and asks questions, and it can be frustrating for people who are expecting a movie style courtroom drama, but we have to remember this is real life. Not everyone is snappy and quick in their delivery. What is impressive is the detailed case they have built - it's quite remarkable, the way the evidence has been compiled and catalogued. They prosecution are efficient and organised and they may be building their case slowly, but slow and steady can still win the race.
Agreed - so many murderers/victims/witnesses/locations/cover-ups/very young children involved/devastated relatives/lies/family dysfunctional behaviors. Exhausting. Prosecutor is dealing with FOUR sets of defense attorneys. Doing a great job.
It's because they think everything is a tv show designed for their entertainment.
The Wagners were not counting on BCI and other agencies investigating their case
Surely if you are going to murder this many people execution style you had to know BCI and Everyone Else is going to show up to solve!
Moral of the story…Don’t f**k with Ohio BCI
After being married to an attorney for 20+ yrs I can attest to the stress associated with having a trial & all that goes along with it. You can only please some of the people some of the time. As long as you do a good job defending your client then you have done your job.
Can't hear any of it.
Me neither, it’s so frustrating
Money trail will get u everytime.
I wonder how many women are writing George and Jake while they are in jail?
Ummm Zero
@@wildflowerb2879 wildflower I hope you are riggt
Same for Darrell Brooks. 🥺
Yes, sadly, I expect Jake will get a lot of letters like Chris Watts + Boston Bomber, etc. Appears to be many sad, desperate women looking for an inmate partner. There are a few theories as to why this is so. One is that the men were momentarily "(in)famous" and the women think they, the women, somehow gain status through a "relationship" with the "famous" murderer. Another is that the women have been cheated on in previous relationships so are reassured that "their man" is placebound in jail, no going out to the bars. Seriously.
Only sick humans would.
😢sad for everyone involved
Who was recording these? (The pickup of Sophia, for example.)
Nevermind. I see. Jake.
@@datdudecollins Yes, so odd, but it was indeed Jake. Trying to incriminate Hanna Mae somehow.
Can someone please tell who the 2 people are that are talking on this audio tape? Thanks
Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden
@@pjhey947 thanks
@@megmeyer7563 😃👍
Where can we find reliable transcript of this? Can only make out a couple words in this
"Pretty lies and alibis" channel transcribes a lot of this trial.
Audio is poor. Prosecutor is exhausting. But at least we've seen a few bits of evidence having to do with this defendant in the last couple days.
It's mind boggling that George honestly thinks he is going to get off. 🤦🏽♀️
The one recording where persons says to Sofie “ why you so dirty don’t they know how to give you a bath?” Lady says it’s George saying that. To me it sounded like a female poss Angela. I guess George has a girly voice.
@@Jenjenilou the witness(detective) on stand says the voice who asks “why you so dirty” is George
@@Jenjenilou no it's George making a squealy voice. The prosecutor talks to him about it specifically.
I totally agree about the ummms. Don't the have an assistant, intern or a friend to tell these 2 to STOP w/ the umms. Sounds so freaking annoying, plus ignorant as hell.
Surely that so called ‘special’ prosecutor knows what the basic questions to ask will be to the officers, and she can’t even get those out without uming and bumbling her way through them 🤦♀️ so off putting to the witnesses 🤷♀️
I'm sure she's absolutely exhausted Anne Wyatt. She's having to keep all the witnesses as well as the suspects straight in her mind and she's been doing this day after day for quite some time now. Don't people ever give breaks to people any longer in this society? Who are we now?
@@amelia_k1082 Thank you. I've seen so much of this. Comparing judges, critique everything an attorney says...Sometimes one might get on my nerves but I have to step back. These trials are serious and not just for entertainment purposes
And don’t call me Shirley 😂
@@MelsDiner025 Shirley, I would not. lol
@@amelia_k1082 hahahaha
What does Jake dropping Sophia off have to do with George?
Please make her stop umming!!!!!!!
deborah skunk, I'm sure she's absolutely mentally exhausted. She's having to keep all the witnesses as well as the suspects straight in her mind and she's been doing this day after day for quite some time now. Don't people ever give breaks to people any longer in this society? Who are we now? The fact that she uses "um" to keep her thoughts straight should be the least of what you take from this case because at the heart of the case is the murder of 8 human beings by 4 other human beings. imho
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Interesting... about shoes,feet.. I bet Wagner's didn't know such detail test,specialist existed.
Junk seems to just be a third wheel. Why is he
there?
One day when this investigator looks at her time on the umm stand umm she will umm hate the fact she said umm in between every single word just about as bad as umm the prosecutor
That is all you have to say? You are weird.
They are wearing a big pair of shoes and I sense she is doing a good job. It has to be stressful tolperform herduties on such a tragic situation and words must be chosen so carefully. And all that done before multiple listeners. Let's try to remember to keep our yard as well kept as we can and not be picking apart the yards of others. I mean this as a kind reminder to us all. Truly I do.
I don't even notice it anymore.I guess I am listening to the case rather intently
Ummmm
soooo annoying!
Ummmm